[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> Barry is being compelled by some strange self-
> destructive impulse to behave like a brainless
> buffoon.

Barry is compelled by his frustration with you, your mind, the very person you 
are Judy. You drive him crazy. He just can't help himself. He HAS to read your 
posts, he HAS to stand ready to jump in when he feels there is an opening to 
undermine, call you out, find the achilles heel where there may or may not be 
one. He seems, frankly, obsessed with you but there is even more than that. He 
seems to relish the prospect of cutting the legs out from under those who are 
smarter, have a bigger vision or are just plain nicer than he is. In some 
strange way you are his muse, or at least his motivation to get out of bed in 
the morning. He has a lot to thank you for.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Just for fun, given Judy's claim of being offended by
> > anything less than total historical accuracy...  :-)
> 
> I never made any such claim.
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > And with regard to the "Mad Scene" woman emptybill was talking
> > > about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
> > > her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
> > > she has gone insane with grief.
> > >
> > > Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
> > >
> > > There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
> > > political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
> > > thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
> > > other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
> > > kills himself.
> > >
> > > The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
> > > century Scotland.
> > 
> > First, this is inaccurate. The opera is based on Sir Walter
> > Scott's novel "The Bride of Lammermoor." Scott at one
> > point *claimed* that it was based on historical fact, but
> > that seems not to have been true. From Wikipedia:
> 
> Actually, if you check out Wikipedia on "The Bride of
> Lammermoor," you'll find that the novel, albeit
> fictional, is closely modeled on the historical events.
> The only area of real uncertainty historically is
> exactly what happened in the bridal chamber on the
> couple's wedding night:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_of_Lammermoor
> 
> Barry didn't give a link for what he quoted. That's
> because he had to go rather far afield to find anything
> on Wikipedia that called in question any of the historical
> basis for the opera:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscount_Stair
> 
> 
> > Second, now that Judy's description of the opera as
> > being based on "real events" has been shown to be...
> > uh...less than factual,
> 
> The opera "Lucia di Lammermoor" certainly takes some
> liberties with the plot of the novel, but given that
> the novel is fairly accurate historically, it's entirely
> reasonable to say the opera is based on real events.
> ("Based on" does not imply 100 percent historical
> accuracy, but Barry knew that.)
> 
> The point in context, of course, is the subjugation and
> oppression of women, specifically here with regard to
> arranged marriages.
> 
> > can we expect her anytime soon
> > to rag on it? That's what she did for the movie she never
> > bothered to see when she found out that it was less than
> > 100% historically accurate, after all.  :-)
> > 
> > Will she post a nasty putdown of the opera, claiming
> > that either Sir Walter Scott or Gaetano Donizetti were
> > "Christian bigots" trying to misrepresent true history?
> 
> Christianity came into this where, exactly?
> 
> (Anybody who doesn't understand why Barry's contorted
> effort here is laughable--even if he were correct about
> the historical issues, which he isn't--let me know, and
> I'll be happy to explain.)
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:21 AM, emptybill  wrote:

> Raving Yogi
>
> Why bother indeed! You're such a drama queen.
>
> You are already Lucia - only without the knife.
>
> Just remember ...  no matter how much you claim to love your Diva (cognate
> with deva) she'll fry you with onions for  sheer entertainment if you
> become too much of a lunatickle.
>

Devi loves being lunatickled empty baby and no one can lunatickle her like
me. I'm her real source of entertainment.


>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > "Anyone actually watch it?"
> >
> > Stop begging empty baby - this habit of yours is highly irritating - OK?
> I
> > am not going to watch it.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Wonderful performances everyone.
> > >
> > > What brilliant addendums to the vocal
> > > ornamentations of Donizetti's Lucia.
> > >
> > > You all are of the highest literary amplitude
> > > by recreating the mad scene right here on FFL.
> > >
> > > And by the way. Remember that video the Judy
> > > was praising?
> > >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[authfriend]

Barry is being compelled by some strange self-
destructive impulse to behave like a brainless
buffoon.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Just for fun, given Judy's claim of being offended by
> anything less than total historical accuracy...  :-)

I never made any such claim.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> >
> > And with regard to the "Mad Scene" woman emptybill was talking
> > about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
> > her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
> > she has gone insane with grief.
> >
> > Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
> >
> > There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
> > political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
> > thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
> > other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
> > kills himself.
> >
> > The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
> > century Scotland.
> 
> First, this is inaccurate. The opera is based on Sir Walter
> Scott's novel "The Bride of Lammermoor." Scott at one
> point *claimed* that it was based on historical fact, but
> that seems not to have been true. From Wikipedia:

Actually, if you check out Wikipedia on "The Bride of
Lammermoor," you'll find that the novel, albeit
fictional, is closely modeled on the historical events.
The only area of real uncertainty historically is
exactly what happened in the bridal chamber on the
couple's wedding night:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_of_Lammermoor

Barry didn't give a link for what he quoted. That's
because he had to go rather far afield to find anything
on Wikipedia that called in question any of the historical
basis for the opera:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscount_Stair


> Second, now that Judy's description of the opera as
> being based on "real events" has been shown to be...
> uh...less than factual,

The opera "Lucia di Lammermoor" certainly takes some
liberties with the plot of the novel, but given that
the novel is fairly accurate historically, it's entirely
reasonable to say the opera is based on real events.
("Based on" does not imply 100 percent historical
accuracy, but Barry knew that.)

The point in context, of course, is the subjugation and
oppression of women, specifically here with regard to
arranged marriages.

> can we expect her anytime soon
> to rag on it? That's what she did for the movie she never
> bothered to see when she found out that it was less than
> 100% historically accurate, after all.  :-)
> 
> Will she post a nasty putdown of the opera, claiming
> that either Sir Walter Scott or Gaetano Donizetti were
> "Christian bigots" trying to misrepresent true history?

Christianity came into this where, exactly?

(Anybody who doesn't understand why Barry's contorted
effort here is laughable--even if he were correct about
the historical issues, which he isn't--let me know, and
I'll be happy to explain.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[turquoiseb]

Just for fun, given Judy's claim of being offended by
anything less than total historical accuracy...  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
>
> And with regard to the "Mad Scene" woman emptybill was talking
> about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
> her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
> she has gone insane with grief.
>
> Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
>
> There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
> political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
> thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
> other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
> kills himself.
>
> The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
> century Scotland.

First, this is inaccurate. The opera is based on Sir Walter
Scott's novel "The Bride of Lammermoor." Scott at one
point *claimed* that it was based on historical fact, but
that seems not to have been true. From Wikipedia:

The next five years of Stair's [Sir James Dalrymple's] life were
comparatively uneventful, but  in 1669 a family calamity, the
exact facts of which will probably never  be ascertained,
overtook him. His daughter Janet, who had been betrothed  to
Lord Rutherfurd, was married to Dunbar of Baldoon, and some
tragic  incident occurred on the wedding night, from the effects
of which she  never recovered. As the traditions vary on the central
fact, whether it  was the bride who stabbed her husband, or the
husband who stabbed the  bride, no credence can be given to the
mass of superstitions and  spiteful slander
  which surrounded it,
principally leveled at Lady Stair. Sir Walter Scott
  took the plot
of his Bride of Lammermoor
  from this incident,
but he
disclaimed any intention of making Lord Stair the basis for
Sir William Ashton.

Second, now that Judy's description of the opera as
being based on "real events" has been shown to be...
uh...less than factual, can we expect her anytime soon
to rag on it? That's what she did for the movie she never
bothered to see when she found out that it was less than
100% historically accurate, after all.  :-)

Will she post a nasty putdown of the opera, claiming
that either Sir Walter Scott or Gaetano Donizetti were
"Christian bigots" trying to misrepresent true history?

Only time will tell...

:-)   :-)   :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[Ravi Chivukula]

"Anyone actually watch it?"

Stop begging empty baby - this habit of yours is highly irritating - OK? I
am not going to watch it.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Wonderful performances everyone.
>
> What brilliant addendums to the vocal
> ornamentations of Donizetti's Lucia.
>
> You all are of the highest literary amplitude
> by recreating the mad scene right here on FFL.
>
> And by the way. Remember that video the Judy
> was praising?
>
> Anyone actually watch it?
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful performances.
> >
> > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > that is.
> >
> > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > >
> > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > nicely.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> > interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > > ability.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > > >
> > > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > > >
> > > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky
> and
> > > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You
> must
> > > > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh yeah?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
> > but
> > > > ...
> > > > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
> > kiss.
> > > > But
> > > > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience
> loved
> > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > > > >
> > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of
> a
> > > > female
> > > > > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
> > this
> > > > > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the
> following
> > > > clip,
> > > > > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> > > > malfunction,
> > > > > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
> > strap):
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the
> aria
> > is
> > > > good
> > > > > > too.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > > > > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as
> an
> > > > encore.
> > > > > > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
> > still
> > > > while
> > > > > > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock. And just look at her
> > face
> > > > when
> > > > > > she is finished.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men
> would
> > > > love to
> > > > > > have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a
> handful
> > > > though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of
> > Clemenza di
> > > > > > Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna
> > Netrebko,
> > > > > > sing
> > > > > > > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt
> > that
> > > > > > > > they're both as b

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[emptybill]

Raving Yogi

Why bother indeed! You're such a drama queen.


You are already Lucia - only without the knife.

Just remember ...  no matter how much you claim to love your Diva
(cognate with deva) she'll fry you with onions for  sheer entertainment
if you become too much of a lunatickle.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
 wrote:
>
> "Anyone actually watch it?"
>
> Stop begging empty baby - this habit of yours is highly irritating -
OK? I
> am not going to watch it.
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Wonderful performances everyone.
> >
> > What brilliant addendums to the vocal
> > ornamentations of Donizetti's Lucia.
> >
> > You all are of the highest literary amplitude
> > by recreating the mad scene right here on FFL.
> >
> > And by the way. Remember that video the Judy
> > was praising?
> >
> > Anyone actually watch it?
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful performances.
> > >
> > > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > > that is.
> > >
> > > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > > >
> > > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > > nicely.)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > > > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> > > interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > > > ability.)
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > > > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > > > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > > > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > > > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > > > >
> > > > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > > > >
> > > > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri
Hvorostovsky
> > and
> > > > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw.
You
> > must
> > > > > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh yeah?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no
cleavage
> > > but
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their
actual
> > > kiss.
> > > > > But
> > > > > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience
> > loved
> > > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > > > > >
> > >

> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential
part of
> > a
> > > > > female
> > > > > > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t
you think? In
> > > this
> > > > > > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the
> > following
> > > > > clip,
> > > > > > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> > > > > malfunction,
> > > > > > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the
shoulder
> > > strap):
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the
> > aria
> > > is
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > too.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > > > > > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she
uses it as
> > an
> > > > > encore.
> > > > > > > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone
to keep
> > > still
> > > > > while
> > > > > > > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock. And just
look at her
> > > face
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > she is finished.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cecilia is the sor

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[emptybill]

Wonderful performances everyone.

What brilliant addendums to the vocal
ornamentations of Donizetti's Lucia.

You all are of the highest literary amplitude
by recreating the mad scene right here on FFL.

And by the way. Remember that video the Judy
was praising?

Anyone actually watch it?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Wonderful performances.
>
> That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> that is.
>
> Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> heart out but also put a grenade under your
> body to greet anyone rolling you over.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@
> wrote:
> >
> > Three Netrebko videos...
> >
> > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > nicely.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> >
> >
> > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > ability.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> >
> >
> > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > >
> > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > >
> > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky
and
> > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You
must
> > > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
> but
> > > ...
> > > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > > >
> > > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
> kiss.
> > > But
> > > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience
loved
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > > >
> 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of
a
> > > female
> > > > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
> this
> > > > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the
following
> > > clip,
> > > > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> > > malfunction,
> > > > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
> strap):
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the
aria
> is
> > > good
> > > > > too.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > > > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as
an
> > > encore.
> > > > > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
> still
> > > while
> > > > > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her
> face
> > > when
> > > > > she is finished.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men
would
> > > love to
> > > > > have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a
handful
> > > though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of
> Clemenza di
> > > > > Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna
> Netrebko,
> > > > > sing
> > > > > > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt
> that
> > > > > > > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they
give
> > > song.
> > > > > > > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous
> performance
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > palace at St. Petersburg
> > > > > > > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> > > > > 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[Ravi Chivukula]

All of this post is the usual feste retarded crap.

I am Ravi Chivukula (holding my clearly reddish, swollen nose hard) and I
approve this message.


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM, feste37  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Most of this post is the usual authfriend crap, but I like the "darling"
> bit. I don't get called that nearly often enough, so I will take whatever I
> can get and hold my nose regarding the source.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
> > > to understand her. In this case "making a fool of yourself"
> > > means "writing something I don't agree with."
> >
> > And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
> > Go back and look at my original post
> >
> > > In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
> > > in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar
> > > of "authfriend speak," which we might define as a language
> > > developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people.
> >
> > What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid
> > lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
> > the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.
> >
> > You are way out of your league here, feste darling.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
> > > > > just authfriend's malicious spin.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
> > > > First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
> > > > was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
> > > > something wildly inappropriate to the context.
> > > >
> > > > And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
> > > > terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
> > > > notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
> > > > sense.
> > > >
> > > > This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
> > > > her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
> > > > really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
> > > > take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
> > > > herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
> > > > *respect* when you do the latter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a
> noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to
> today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann,
> neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought,
> albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: awoelflebater 
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and
> emptyB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you
> for having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to
> develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to
> slinging us over their shoulder.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches
> that since cave days, women fight dirty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And do you believe that/him? Sounds

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[Ravi Chivukula]

Most of this post is usual retarded feste stuff.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM, feste37  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Most of this post is the usual authfriend crap, but I like the "darling"
> bit. I don't get called that nearly often enough, so I will take whatever I
> can get and hold my nose regarding the source.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
> > > to understand her. In this case "making a fool of yourself"
> > > means "writing something I don't agree with."
> >
> > And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
> > Go back and look at my original post
> >
> > > In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
> > > in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar
> > > of "authfriend speak," which we might define as a language
> > > developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people.
> >
> > What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid
> > lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
> > the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.
> >
> > You are way out of your league here, feste darling.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
> > > > > just authfriend's malicious spin.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
> > > > First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
> > > > was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
> > > > something wildly inappropriate to the context.
> > > >
> > > > And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
> > > > terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
> > > > notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
> > > > sense.
> > > >
> > > > This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
> > > > her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
> > > > really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
> > > > take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
> > > > herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
> > > > *respect* when you do the latter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a
> noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to
> today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann,
> neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought,
> albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: awoelflebater 
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and
> emptyB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you
> for having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to
> develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to
> slinging us over their shoulder.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches
> that since cave days, women fight dirty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's
> (n this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:49 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > 
> > > Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.
> >
> > Hey, Barry, saying something RLY
> > RLY STOOPID
> > twice doesn't somehow make it any less
> > STPID.
>
> See what I mean about them having used up all of
> the scurrilous accusations they're capable of
> thinking up, Michael? The most they can do now
> is add more vowels to them.
>

Barry baby - you are really losing it - you should get a room together with
feste?

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[feste37]

Most of this post is the usual authfriend crap, but I like the "darling" bit. I 
don't get called that nearly often enough, so I will take whatever I can get 
and hold my nose regarding the source. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
> > to  understand her. In this case "making a fool of yourself" 
> > means "writing something I don't agree with."
> 
> And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
> Go back and look at my original post
> 
> > In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
> > in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar 
> > of "authfriend speak," which we might define as a language 
> > developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people. 
> 
> What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid 
> lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
> the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.
> 
> You are way out of your league here, feste darling.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
> > > > just authfriend's malicious spin.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
> > > First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
> > > was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
> > > something wildly inappropriate to the context.
> > > 
> > > And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
> > > terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
> > > notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
> > > sense.
> > > 
> > > This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
> > > her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
> > > really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
> > > take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
> > > herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
> > > *respect* when you do the latter.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> > > > > noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself 
> > > > > prior to today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the 
> > > > > future.  Ann, neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  
> > > > > Which I thought, albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: awoelflebater 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for 
> > > > > > having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had 
> > > > > > to develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen 
> > > > > > prone to slinging us over their shoulder.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that 
> > > > > > since cave days, women fight dirty.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n 
> > > > > this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at 
> > > > > it that because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong 
> > > > > than men they have to rely on their wits more and of course this 
> > > > > would apply mostly to days gone by when phys

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.
> 
> Hey, Barry, saying something RLY
> RLY STOOPID
> twice doesn't somehow make it any less
> STPID.

See what I mean about them having used up all of
the scurrilous accusations they're capable of 
thinking up, Michael? The most they can do now
is add more vowels to them. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.

Hey, Barry, saying something RLY
RLY STOOPID
twice doesn't somehow make it any less
STPID.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like someone is trying to cover her embarrassment at 
> > her foolish error. 
> 
> Sorry, not embarrassed, not covering, and definitely not 
> foolish. I've been wrong, but not stupid.

Like I said, a real chip off the old Robin blockheadedness.

 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a 
> > > > fool of herself.
> > > 
> > > Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it 
> > > hardly takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was 
> > > > > > > just authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that 
> > > > > > Judy did not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. 
> > > > > > She asked a question, didn't make a statement, and the question was 
> > > > > > did 
> > > > > > Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to 
> > > > > > us. Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise 
> > > > > > Judy and are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I 
> > > > > > think I'm ready.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others
> to  understand her. In this case "making a fool of yourself" 
> means "writing something I don't agree with."

And now you just made a fool of yourself again, feste.
Go back and look at my original post

> In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done
> in this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar 
> of "authfriend speak," which we might define as a language 
> developed entirely to browbeat and humiliate other people. 

What is this compulsion to make yourself look stupid 
lately, feste? As if I could ever come anywhere near
the ability of Barryspeak to browbeat and humiliate.

You are way out of your league here, feste darling.



 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
> > > just authfriend's malicious spin.
> > 
> > Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
> > First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
> > was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
> > something wildly inappropriate to the context.
> > 
> > And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
> > terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
> > notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
> > sense.
> > 
> > This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
> > her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
> > really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
> > take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
> > herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
> > *respect* when you do the latter.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> > > > noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior 
> > > > to today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  
> > > > Ann, neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I 
> > > > thought, albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: awoelflebater 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for 
> > > > > having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to 
> > > > > develop to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone 
> > > > > to slinging us over their shoulder.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that 
> > > > > since cave days, women fight dirty.
> > > > 
> > > > And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this 
> > > > case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that 
> > > > because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men 
> > > > they have to rely on their wits more and of course this would apply 
> > > > mostly to days gone by when physical threat was more common in daily 
> > > > life. To hide one's young from a predator would involve elements of 
> > > > foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and creative to find ways of 
> > > > escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well as a huge degree 
> > > > of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics into one 
> > > > descriptive word like "dirty" is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
> > > > even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person 
> > > > putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as 
> > > > positive in the opposite sex.
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Looks like someone is trying to cover her embarrassment at her foolish error. 

Sorry, not embarrassed, not covering, and definitely not foolish. I've been 
wrong, but not stupid.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool 
> > > of herself.
> > 
> > Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it 
> > hardly takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> > > > > > authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy 
> > > > > did not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She 
> > > > > asked a question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
> > > > > Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. 
> > > > > Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy 
> > > > > and are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think 
> > > > > I'm ready.
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> > > > 
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[feste37]

Looks like someone is trying to cover her embarrassment at her foolish error. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool 
> > of herself.
> 
> Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it hardly 
> takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> > > > > authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy 
> > > > did not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked 
> > > > a question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
> > > > Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. 
> > > > Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and 
> > > > are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm 
> > > > ready.
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That 
> > > > was just authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > > 
> > > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  
> > > that Judy did not say Share had made a fool of herself, 
> > > not even close. She asked a question, didn't make a statement, 
> > > and the question was did Share think she had communicated to 
> > > Judy or I in her last post to us. Take a breath and take a 
> > > moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are reacting 
> > > like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
> 
> Thanks Alex, you just gave an example of correcting/clarifying 
> something without coming across like a dink.

Ahem. Methinks Angry Ann forgot to include the part of
her post that goes, "I was W...W...W...WRONG. It was 
M...M...M...ME who made a fool of myself. Sorry."

A real chip off the Robin blockheadedness. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> > > authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > 
> > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did 
> > not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a 
> > question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
> > Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take 
> > a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are 
> > reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
> > > 
> 
> I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397

Thanks Alex, you just gave an example of correcting/clarifying something 
without coming across like a dink.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool of 
> herself.

Sorry Feste, it takes a lot more than that to look like a fool. But it hardly 
takes anything at all to look like an asshole.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> > > > authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > > 
> > > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did 
> > > not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a 
> > > question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
> > > Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. 
> > > Take a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and 
> > > are reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
> > > > 
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[feste37]

We need to compile an authfriend lexicon that will help others to  understand 
her. In this case "making a fool of yourself" means "writing something I don't 
agree with." In doing so we need to acknowledge the fine work already done in 
this field by Turquoise B, a brilliant, pioneering scholar of "authfriend 
speak," which we might define as a language developed entirely to browbeat and 
humiliate other people. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
> > just authfriend's malicious spin.
> 
> Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
> First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
> was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
> something wildly inappropriate to the context.
> 
> And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
> terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
> notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
> sense.
> 
> This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
> her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
> really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
> take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
> herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
> *respect* when you do the latter.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> > > noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
> > > today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
> > > neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
> > > albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: awoelflebater 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having 
> > > > a healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop 
> > > > to survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging 
> > > > us over their shoulder.
> > > > 
> > > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that 
> > > > since cave days, women fight dirty.
> > > 
> > > And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this 
> > > case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that 
> > > because women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men 
> > > they have to rely on their wits more and of course this would apply 
> > > mostly to days gone by when physical threat was more common in daily 
> > > life. To hide one's young from a predator would involve elements of 
> > > foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and creative to find ways of 
> > > escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well as a huge degree 
> > > of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics into one 
> > > descriptive word like "dirty" is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
> > > even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person 
> > > putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive 
> > > in the opposite sex.
> > > 
> > >   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because 
> > > we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off 
> > > hunting or warring.
> > > 
> > > We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since 
> > > the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had 
> > > been present.
> > > > 
> > > > Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more 
> > > > colorful language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If 
> > > > only to spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day 
> > > > (-:   
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was
> just authfriend's malicious spin.

Yeah, sorry, but she did make a fool of herself, in two ways.
First, she didn't make any effort to find out what the video
was that emptybill was talking about and just jumped in with
something wildly inappropriate to the context.

And second, what she was babbling about was, on its own
terms (as Ann explained), stupidly chauvinistic, a dopey
notion she picked up without asking herself if it made any
sense.

This wasn't the most egregious instance by any means of
her making a fool of herself, but it *was* typical. If you
really want the best for Share, feste, you need to let her
take her lumps instead of trying to protect her from
herself and from reality. You aren't even showing her any
*respect* when you do the latter.





> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> > noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
> > today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
> > neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
> > albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: awoelflebater 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> > > healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> > > survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
> > > over their shoulder.
> > > 
> > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
> > > cave days, women fight dirty.
> > 
> > And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
> > the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
> > women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
> > rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone 
> > by when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young 
> > from a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be 
> > spontaneous and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry 
> > mountain lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump 
> > all of these characteristics into one descriptive word like "dirty" is 
> > patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 
> > 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what could 
> > be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
> > 
> >   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because 
> > we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting 
> > or warring.
> > 
> > We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since 
> > the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
> > present.
> > > 
> > > Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> > > language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to 
> > > spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
> > 
> > Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
> > Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
> > "Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be 
> > fine. If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there 
> > just weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: feste37 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wonderful performanc

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[feste37]

Correct. Wolf didn't bother to read the relevant post, so she made a fool of 
herself. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> > > authfriend's malicious spin. 
> > 
> > Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did 
> > not say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a 
> > question, didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
> > Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take 
> > a breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are 
> > reacting like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
> > > 
> 
> I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> > authfriend's malicious spin. 
> 
> Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did not 
> say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a question, 
> didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
> Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take a 
> breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are reacting 
> like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
> > 

I'm pretty sure Feste is referring to what Judy wrote here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328397

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just 
> authfriend's malicious spin. 

Dear Feste. Please note, in the interest of clarity here,  that Judy did not 
say Share had made a fool of herself, not even close. She asked a question, 
didn't make a statement, and the question was did 
Share think she had communicated to Judy or I in her last post to us. Take a 
breath and take a moment and figure out why you despise Judy and are reacting 
like crazy right now. OK, it's your turn, I think I'm ready.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> > noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
> > today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
> > neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
> > albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: awoelflebater 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> > > healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> > > survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
> > > over their shoulder.
> > > 
> > > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
> > > cave days, women fight dirty.
> > 
> > And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
> > the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
> > women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
> > rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone 
> > by when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young 
> > from a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be 
> > spontaneous and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry 
> > mountain lion as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump 
> > all of these characteristics into one descriptive word like "dirty" is 
> > patently ridiculous and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 
> > 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a negative spin on what could 
> > be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite sex.
> > 
> >   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because 
> > we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting 
> > or warring.
> > 
> > We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since 
> > the men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
> > present.
> > > 
> > > Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> > > language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to 
> > > spare Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
> > 
> > Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
> > Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
> > "Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be 
> > fine. If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there 
> > just weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: feste37 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wonderful performances.
> > > > 
> > > > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > > > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > > > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > > > that is.
> > > > 
> > > > Feste, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[feste37]

Share, darling, you did not make a fool of yourself. That was just authfriend's 
malicious spin. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
> today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
> neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
> albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: awoelflebater 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> > healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> > survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
> > over their shoulder.
> > 
> > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
> > cave days, women fight dirty.
> 
> And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
> the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
> women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
> rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by 
> when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from 
> a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous 
> and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion 
> as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these 
> characteristics into one descriptive word like "dirty" is patently ridiculous 
> and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another 
> person putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as 
> positive in the opposite sex.
> 
>   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we 
> were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or 
> warring.
> 
> We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
> men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
> present.
> > 
> > Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> > language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
> > Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
> 
> Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
> Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
> "Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. 
> If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just 
> weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful performances.
> > > 
> > > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > > that is.
> > > 
> > > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> > 
> > I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > > >
> > > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > > nicely.)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > > >
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[turquoiseb]

> And with regard to the "Mad Scene" woman emptybill was talking
> about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
> her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
> she has gone insane with grief.
> 
> Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?
> 
> There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
> political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
> thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
> other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
> kills himself.
> 
> The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
> century Scotland.


And people wonder why I prefer the relatively upbeat,
comparatively happy themes of country music to opera.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[authfriend]

Do you think you have communicated with Ann and me here,
Share?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
> noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to 
> today and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, 
> neither Edwin nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, 
> albeit wrongly, that the explanation explained.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: awoelflebater 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> > healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> > survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us 
> > over their shoulder.
> > 
> > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since 
> > cave days, women fight dirty.
> 
> And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case 
> the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because 
> women are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to 
> rely on their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by 
> when physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from 
> a predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous 
> and creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion 
> as well as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these 
> characteristics into one descriptive word like "dirty" is patently ridiculous 
> and shortsighted, even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another 
> person putting a negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as 
> positive in the opposite sex.
> 
>   We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we 
> were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or 
> warring.
> 
> We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
> men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been 
> present.
> > 
> > Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> > language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
> > Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   
> 
> Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. 
> Can you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? 
> "Now ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. 
> If you find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just 
> weren't enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: feste37 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful performances.
> > > 
> > > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > > that is.
> > > 
> > > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> > 
> > I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > > >
> > > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > > nicely.)
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Sempre libera" from Verdi

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you
> > for having a healthy respect for our trickiness which of
> > course we had to develop to survive living with those big
> > strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over their shoulder.
> > 
> > In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches
> > that since cave days, women fight dirty.
> 
> And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's
> (in this case the man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint.

> Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a
> negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive
> in the opposite sex.

That's OK, he's an "expert" and a "wise other."

And with regard to the "Mad Scene" woman emptybill was talking
about, she murders her bridegroom because she's been forced by
her brother to marry him rather than the man she loves, and
she has gone insane with grief.

Real tricky on the woman's part, huh?

There's more: Her brother has arranged the marriage for
political reasons, to secure his own power; and the two
thwarted lovers have been led to believe each has betrayed the
other. When the woman's lover learns that she has died, he
kills himself.

The opera is based on real events that took place in 17th
century Scotland.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to Judy and Ann

[Share Long]

Yep, obviously I'm still learning how to communicate online in a 
noninflammatory way.  Judy, I'm sure I've made a fool of myself prior to today 
and am equally sure that I will do so again in the future.  Ann, neither Edwin 
nor I were criticizing dirty fighting.  Which I thought, albeit wrongly, that 
the explanation explained.




 From: awoelflebater 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over 
> their shoulder.
> 
> In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
> days, women fight dirty.

And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case the 
man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because women 
are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to rely on 
their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by when 
physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from a 
predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and 
creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well 
as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics 
into one descriptive word like "dirty" is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a 
negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite 
sex.

  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we were 
the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or warring.

We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been present.
> 
> Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
> Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   

Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. Can 
you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? "Now 
ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. If you 
find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just weren't 
enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar."
> 
> 
> 
> ____
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful performances.
> > 
> > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > that is.
> > 
> > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> 
> I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > >
> > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > nicely.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> > interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > > ability.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over 
> their shoulder.
> 
> In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
> days, women fight dirty.

And do you believe that/him? Sounds like a funny sort of man's (n this case the 
man being Mr Coppard) viewpoint. How about looking at it that because women 
are, generally speaking, less physically strong than men they have to rely on 
their wits more and of course this would apply mostly to days gone by when 
physical threat was more common in daily life. To hide one's young from a 
predator would involve elements of foresight, the ability to be spontaneous and 
creative to find ways of escaping the jaws of some hungry mountain lion as well 
as a huge degree of courage. To use a term to lump all of these characteristics 
into one descriptive word like "dirty" is patently ridiculous and shortsighted, 
even underhanded. Talk about 'fighting dirty'. Just another person putting a 
negative spin on what could be otherwise construed as positive in the opposite 
sex.

  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect the young because we were 
the last line of defense when the men of the tribe were off hunting or warring.

We would have been the FIRST and far from inferior line of defense since the 
men were gone and might have been the first line even if they had been present.
> 
> Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
> Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:   

Yessiree, that Buck certainly makes me shake my head in wonder, every day. Can 
you imagine if he was our first line of defense against some marauder? "Now 
ladies, relax, just close your eyes for 20 minutes and all will be fine. If you 
find yourself dead in the next 20 seconds it's because there just weren't 
enough of us meditating right now. Now shoo, you nasty cougar."
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful performances.
> > 
> > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > that is.
> > 
> > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> 
> I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > >
> > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > nicely.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> > interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > > ability.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > > >
> > > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > > >
> > > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
> > > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
&g

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[authfriend]

Right. In this case, though, since the woman in question
goes insane, murders the man she has just married, and
then dies herself, not only are there no young to be
protected, there never *will* be any young to be
protected by her "dirty fighting."

It's always a good idea to view a video before one 
comments on it, lest one make a complete fool of oneself.
(Although the words "mad scene" should perhaps have been
a clue...)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
> healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to 
> survive living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over 
> their shoulder.
> 
> In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
> days, women fight dirty.  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect 
> the young because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe 
> were off hunting or warring.
> 
> Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
> language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare 
> Buck who makes me smile just about every single day (-:    
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > Wonderful performances.
> > 
> > That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> > thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> > by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> > that is.
> > 
> > Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> > heart out but also put a grenade under your
> > body to greet anyone rolling you over.
> 
> I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Three Netrebko videos...
> > >
> > > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > > nicely.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> > interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > > ability.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > > >
> > > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > > >
> > > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
> > > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
> > > > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh yeah?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
> > but
> > > > ...
> > > > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
> > kiss.
> > > > But
> > > > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12 to feste and emptyB

[Share Long]

feste, we adore you for adoring us and emptyB, we adore you for having a 
healthy respect for our trickiness which of course we had to develop to survive 
living with those big strong hairy cavemen prone to slinging us over their 
shoulder.

In his workshop music man Edwin Coppard from Victoria teaches that since cave 
days, women fight dirty.  We had to have strategies and abilities to protect 
the young because we were the last line of defense when the men of the tribe 
were off hunting or warring.

Edwin still has a bit of a Cockney accent and he used much more colorful 
language which I will leave to everyone's imagination.  If only to spare Buck 
who makes me smile just about every single day (-:    




 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Wonderful performances.
> 
> That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> that is.
> 
> Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> heart out but also put a grenade under your
> body to greet anyone rolling you over.

I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Three Netrebko videos...
> >
> > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > nicely.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> >
> >
> > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > ability.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> >
> >
> > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > >
> > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > >
> > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
> > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
> > > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
> but
> > > ...
> > > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > > >
> > > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
> kiss.
> > > But
> > > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > > >
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
> > > female
> > > > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
> this
> > > > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
> > > clip,
> > > > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> > > malfunction,
> > > > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
> strap):
> > > > > > http:

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Wonderful performances.
> 
> That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
> thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
> by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
> that is.
> 
> Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
> heart out but also put a grenade under your
> body to greet anyone rolling you over.


I know. Mess with them and you're history. That's why I adore them so much. 

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Three Netrebko videos...
> >
> > "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> > (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> > need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> > nicely.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
> >
> >
> > "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> > (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
> interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> > ability.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
> >
> >
> > "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> > (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> > production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> > and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> > scene, over 10 minutes.)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> > >
> > > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> > >
> > > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
> > > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
> > > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
> but
> > > ...
> > > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > > >
> > > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
> kiss.
> > > But
> > > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved
> it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > > >
> 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
> > > female
> > > > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
> this
> > > > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
> > > clip,
> > > > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> > > malfunction,
> > > > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
> strap):
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria
> is
> > > good
> > > > > too.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > > > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an
> > > encore.
> > > > > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
> still
> > > while
> > > > > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her
> face
> > > when
> > > > > she is finished.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would
> > > love to
> > > > > have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful
> > > though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of
> Clemenza di
> > > > > Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna
> Netrebko,
> > > > > sing
> > > > > > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt
> that
> > > > > > > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give
> > > song.
> > > > > > > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous
> performance
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > palace at St. Petersburg
> > > > > > > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[emptybill]

Wonderful performances.

That mad scene should be a snap-shot for men
thinking these divas would be simple to deal with
by a fool - a snap-shot of their own bloody corpse
that is.

Feste, be warned. They wouldn't just cut your
heart out but also put a grenade under your
body to greet anyone rolling you over.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
>
> Three Netrebko videos...
>
> "Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
> (Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
> need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it
> nicely.)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE
>
>
> "Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
> (From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre
interpretation of Violetta, but it shows off her acting
> ability.)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1
>
>
> "Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
> (Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
> production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
> and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
> scene, over 10 minutes.)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> >
> > But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> >
> > Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
> > Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
> > have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah?
> > > >
> > > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage
but
> > ...
> > > > it also is "so hot".
> > > >
> > > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual
kiss.
> > But
> > > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved
it.
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > >

> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
> > female
> > > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In
this
> > > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
> > clip,
> > > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> > malfunction,
> > > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder
strap):
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria
is
> > good
> > > > too.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an
> > encore.
> > > > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep
still
> > while
> > > > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her
face
> > when
> > > > she is finished.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would
> > love to
> > > > have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful
> > though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of
Clemenza di
> > > > Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna
Netrebko,
> > > > sing
> > > > > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt
that
> > > > > > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give
> > song.
> > > > > > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous
performance
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > palace at St. Petersburg
> > > > > > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[authfriend]

Three Netrebko videos...

"Quando m'en vo" ("Musetta's Waltz") from Puccini's La Boheme
(Not such a great aria for a concert performance; you really
need the staging for it to come across, but she sings it 
nicely.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnWivspwRE


"Sempre libera" from Verdi's Traviata
(From the new Met modern-dress production--a rather outre interpretation of 
Violetta, but it shows off her acting
ability.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFJJ1zFBWgY&feature=endscreen&NR=1


"Mad Scene" from Donizetti's Lucia di Lammermoor
(Lucia has just killed her bridegroom. A conventional
production, but the staging of this scene is excellent,
and her performance is blood-chilling. It's a long
scene, over 10 minutes.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX2r8ps9pUg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.
> 
> But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.
> 
> Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
> Renee Fleming in post #328213.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
> have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh yeah?
> > >
> > > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage but
> ...
> > > it also is "so hot".
> > >
> > > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual kiss.
> But
> > > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved it.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
> female
> > > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In this
> > > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
> clip,
> > > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
> malfunction,
> > > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder strap):
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria is
> good
> > > too.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an
> encore.
> > > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still
> while
> > > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her face
> when
> > > she is finished.
> > > >
> > > > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would
> love to
> > > have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful
> though.
> > > >
> > > > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of Clemenza di
> > > Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko,
> > > sing
> > > > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> > > > > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give
> song.
> > > > > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Also,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous performance
> in
> > > the
> > > > > palace at St. Petersburg
> > > > > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[emptybill]

Hah! Yeah … she's like napalm.

But image living with someone with such talent and charisma.

Might easily end up like the performance by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and
Renee Fleming in post #328213.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must
have nodded off before they got it, you poor old bastard.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Oh yeah?
> >
> > Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage but
...
> > it also is "so hot".
> >
> > No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual kiss.
But
> > it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved it.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a
female
> > opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In this
> > regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following
clip,
> > especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe
malfunction,
> > which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder strap):
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria is
good
> > too.)
> > >
> > >
> > > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an
encore.
> > It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still
while
> > they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her face
when
> > she is finished.
> > >
> > > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would
love to
> > have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful
though.
> > >
> > > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of Clemenza di
> > Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko,
> > sing
> > > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> > > > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give
song.
> > > > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Also,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous performance
in
> > the
> > > > palace at St. Petersburg
> > > > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[feste37]

Hotter than hot! There definitely was some cleavage, btw. You must have nodded 
off before they got it, you poor old bastard. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Oh yeah?
> 
> Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage but ...
> it also is "so hot".
> 
> No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual kiss. But
> it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved it.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a female
> opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In this
> regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following clip,
> especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe malfunction,
> which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder strap):
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria is good
> too.)
> >
> >
> > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an encore.
> It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still while
> they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her face when
> she is finished.
> >
> > Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would love to
> have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful though.
> >
> > Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of Clemenza di
> Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko,
> sing
> > > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> > > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give song.
> > > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > > 
> > >
> > > Also,
> > >
> > >
> > > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous performance in
> the
> > > palace at St. Petersburg
> > > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> 
> Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko, 
> sing the famous Flower duet (Lakmé Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give song.
> No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> 
>
>
> 
> Also,
> 
> Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous 
> performance in the palace at St. Petersburg (a duet from
> Verdi's Il Travatore).

YEOW!!

Have the smelling salts handy. This really packs a wallop.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[emptybill]

Oh yeah?

Here is an Anna Netrebko interview where she shows no cleavage but ...
it also is "so hot".

No wonder that video with Dmitri stopped before their actual kiss. But
it was on the other video that I saw ... And the audience loved it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UgpVoMPGbUA





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a female
opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In this
regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following clip,
especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe malfunction,
which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder strap):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria is good
too.)
>
>
> My favorite Cecilia is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an encore.
It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still while
they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her face when
she is finished.
>
> Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would love to
have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful though.
>
> Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of Clemenza di
Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko,
sing
> > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give song.
> > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > 
> >
> > Also,
> >
> >
> > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous performance in
the
> > palace at St. Petersburg
> > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[emptybill]

Thanks for that. It was hilarious.
But did "she" have breast reduction surgery?

What these divas will do to stay competitive.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" feste37@ wrote:
> 
> > My favorite Cecilia is this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> > Its an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an encore.
> > Its breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still
> > while they watch it. Its Baroque rock.  And just look at her
> > face when she is finished.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdQU-N8b3HA
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:

> My favorite Cecilia is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> Its an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an encore.
> Its breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still
> while they watch it. Its Baroque rock.  And just look at her
> face when she is finished. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdQU-N8b3HA

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[merudanda]

Elina G ..

G?G-Effect...G-Force?
from G-Factor.. to G-Spot? [:D]

decide yourself


during recording

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQR9d8Y96hY

during concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE0HXHirY7U


  Clemenza di Tito
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMX-s0L2wLo

Clemenza di Tito
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhJjY-ohBSk


the great B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roo34ysqc4Y



  
all without "wardrobe malfunction" I think-I hope- oh feste,feste37 why
oh why you mentioned?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a female
opera singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In this
regard, the divine Cecilia does not disappoint in the following clip,
especially given the tantalizing possibility of a wardrobe malfunction,
which unfortunately not quite happen (but watch the shoulder strap):
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria is good
too.)
>
>
> My favorite Cecilia is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
> It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an encore.
It’s breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still while
they watch it. It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her face when
she is finished.
>
> Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would love to
have in the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful though.
>
> Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of Clemenza di
Tito at the weekend. She is so hot.
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko,
sing
> > the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> > they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give song.
> > No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> > 
> >
> > Also,
> >
> >
> > Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous performance in
the
> > palace at St. Petersburg
> > (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[raunchydog]

You're an amazing poet, merudanda. I love you. Thanks for gracing us with your 
beauty.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCPufE8AeMg
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6hKiM1zT2Y
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bravissimo "empty one "now a dream cast away in bitter winds, a
> hope slaughtered in dark, a heart punctured upon itself with ancient
> works of Muse long lost to time.
> 
> Yes
> 
> And when all the opera's end, and all
> All FFL's crowd has dimmed,
> 
> When Golden Dome's wings are left to
> Be empty, and our stories are all done,
> We may sing a last eulogy and force it on
> Robin's raven wing, so that to the night, the
> Shining moon would cry with a wolf. The tears of a
> Rose would douse a flame which could not be quenched.
> The rotting of words, it too bicuspid
> Opulence could streak a frown across the
> Horizon with its somber, dismal inks
> 
> Drowning all passion thick, all zeal
> Tore and cast to the wind of all prudence-
> 
> Thorns of roses piercing our dreadful heart
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So throughout the night the stars will sing to
> Our emptybill's praises with more fervor than the now
> Closed opus: Yet a light will creep over us,
> 
>   Opened ways within us, we weep more
> Recognizing our solitude in our partners.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> > However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> > won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> > transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> > of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> > Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> >
> > This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> > vision reveals sacred world.
> >
> > This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> > intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> > (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> > the Way.
> >
> > Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> > Her".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> > 
> >
> >
> > As for Hvorostovsky:
> >
> > Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the
> great
> > Parvarotti.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> > 
> >
> > And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> > 
> >
> > Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> > he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> > remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> >
> > Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo
> > 
> >
> > Turn around unknown stranger
> >
> > Your uncompromising look is familiar
> >
> > Maybe that is me … when I was younger
> >
> > We don't always recognize ourselves but
> >
> > Nothing on Earth passes without leaving a trace
> >
> > And this youth, which has passed, is after all undying ...
> >
> > How young we were, how truly young we were
> >
> > How we loved without doubt, believed in ourselves
> >
> > Everyone welcomed us with our sincere belief
> >
> > We forgave our friends when they were wrong
> >
> > But their treachery we couldn't forgive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" maskedzebra@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Emptybill,
> > >
> > > Dmitri is the first voice I will listen to in the morning. What he
> is
> > making happen here (in this aria) is my aesthetic ideal. I want to be
> > where he is to sing like this.
> > >
> > > Fabulous post, emptybill.
> > >
> > > I am switching from first person ontology to opera.
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Emily,
> > > >
> > > > Here's the famous aria Largo al factotum from Rossini's The
> > > > Barber of Seville (Il Barbiere desiviglia). You'll understand why
> > > > you'llnever see this on American Idol or Britain's Got talent.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Robin
> 
> Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> 
> This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> vision reveals sacred world.
> 
> This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> the Way.
> 
> Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> Her".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> 
> 
> 
> As for Hvorostovsky:
> 
> Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the great
> Parvarotti.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> 
> 
> And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> 
> 
> Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> 
> Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo
> 
> 
> Turn around unknown stranger
> 
> Your uncompromising look is familiar
> 
> Maybe that is me … when I was younger
> 
> We don't always recognize ourselves but
> 
> Nothing on Earth passes without leaving a trace
> 
> And this youth, which has passed, is after all undying ...
> 
> How young we were, how truly young we were
> 
> How we loved without doubt, believed in ourselves
> 
> Everyone welcomed us with our sincere belief
> 
> We forgave our friends when they were wrong
> 
> But their treachery we couldn't forgive

Dear Emptybill,

Wonderful.  All of it. I envy your knowledge of opera--no longer do I envy your 
love of it, for Dmitri Hvorostovsky has made me realize how beautiful opera is. 
I have a multitude of reactions, but the way Anna Netrebka looked into the eyes 
of Dmitri Hvorostovsky--as she sang to him--was the realization of an objective 
intimacy which, for me, represents about as personally intense as first person 
ontology can get! She was confronting him with the beauty of her character, 
held inside the extreme discipline of the aesthetic of opera. That was better 
than a WTS--but I certainly recognized the tremendous influx of what is most 
real (in its stillness)--although taking place within the artifice of the art 
form of opera. Thank you for so much for this, emptybill--Had I known you were 
so aware of this world I would have tried to find something more in our 
dialogues than I was able to find without this knowledge (and 
initiation)--Beginning with the aria: Largo al factotum from Rossini's Il 
Barbiere Desviglia (The Barber of Seville) I knew I had missed out on some 
important dimension of emptybill. And what has come afterwards: well, now I 
have to go through your posts with authfriend--which I will do before the day 
is finished. Magnificent. Dmitri, well he is better than Elvis. If first-person 
ontology had various state of consciousness, one would be DHC--when he is 
performing, that is. Dimitri Hvorostovsky is more disciplined than any athlete, 
more devoted to his art than any monk is to God (nowadays), and he has the 
supreme experience of that sensation of egotism which comes from having 
attained all the individual grace that was possible in making his voice sing 
those notes.

Robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Emptybill,
> >
> > Dmitri is the first voice I will listen to in the morning. What he is
> making happen here (in this aria) is my aesthetic ideal. I want to be
> where he is to sing like this.
> >
> > Fabulous post, emptybill.
> >
> > I am switching from first person ontology to opera.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Emily,
> > >
> > > Here's the famous aria Largo al factotum from Rossini's The
> > > Barber of Seville (Il Barbiere desiviglia). You'll understand why
> > > you'llnever see this on American Idol or Britain's Got talent.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related
> > > 
> > >
> > > Enjoy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera 12.04.12

[feste37]

Nice, but not enough cleavage, which is an essential part of a female opera 
singer’s repertoire, don’t you think? In this regard, the divine Cecilia 
does not disappoint in the following clip, especially given the tantalizing 
possibility of a wardrobe malfunction, which unfortunately not quite happen 
(but watch the shoulder strap): 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKX21earkk (Oh, yes, the aria is good too.) 


My favorite Cecilia is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IeGgk_06I
It’s an aria from a Vivaldi opera and she uses it as an encore. It’s 
breathtaking, sensational. I defy anyone to keep still while they watch it. 
It’s Baroque rock.  And just look at her face when she is finished. 

Cecilia is the sort of voluptuous Italian woman that men would love to have in 
the kitchen and bedroom. She might be a bit of a handful though. 

Elina G made a great Sesto in the live Met telecast of Clemenza di Tito at the 
weekend. She is so hot.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Two of the best mezzo-sopranos, Elina Garanca and Anna Netrebko, sing
> the famous Flower duet (Lakm� Delibes). Doesn't hurt that
> they're both as beautiful as the blossoms to which they give song.
> No wonder men are so easily spellbound.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf42IP__ipw
> 
> 
> Also,
> 
> 
> Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming in a fabulous performance in the
> palace at St. Petersburg
> (a duet from Verdi's Il Travatore).
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV9rE61kodw&feature=related
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[card]

Yep, but preferably not French, Russian, or (drum roll.),
African! Too stochastic for me! ;-)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Whatever...what a great songisn't it great to have rhythm, card?  
> 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[card]

BTW, I think it's possible that native speakers of English

might hear the *qualitative* difference between short (hrasva) and long

(diirgha) a-sound in Sanskrit easier than for instance myself, because they are

accustomed, so to speak, to reduced vowels, whereas

I prolly hear easier the difference in their length, because vowel

length is a so called distinctive feature in Finnish as well

as in Sanskrit!?



For instance:



Finnish 'sama' (same), 'saama' ([something] acquired [by someone])



(In context:  Saama-ni soma siima: The cute [soma] (fishing)line

[siima] acquired [saama] by me [-ni].)





Sanskrit 'sama' (same), 'saama(n)':



2 sAman 1 n. (fr. 1. %{sA} = 1. %{san}) acquisition , possession , property ,

wealth , abundance RV. VS.



3 sAman 2 n. (m. only in TBr. ; prob. connected with %{sAntv} ; accord. to some

fr. 1. %{sA} ; cf. 3. %{sAman}) calming , tranquillizing , (esp.) kind or gentle

words for winning an adversary , conciliation , negotiation (one of the 4

Upa7yas or means of success against an enemy , the other 3 being %{dAna} ,

%{bheda} , and %{daNDa} , qq. vv. ; ibc. or instr. sg. and pl. , `" by friendly

means or in a friendly way , willingly , voluntarily "') TBr. &c. &c.

4 sAman 3 n. (of doubtful derivation ; accord. to Un2. iv , 152 fr. %{so} = 2.

%{sA} , as `" destroying sin "' ; in Nir. vii , 12 apparently connected with

%{sammita} ; by others derived fr. 1. %{san} , %{sA} , %{sAntv} , and perhaps

not to be separated fr. 1. and 2. %{sAman}) a metrical hymn or song of praise ,

(esp.) a partic. kind of sacred text or verse called a Sa1man (intended to be

chanted , and forming , with %{Rc} , %{yajus} , %{chandas} , one of the 4 kinds

of Vedic composition mentioned first in RV. x , 90 , 9) RV. &c. &c. ; any song

or tune (sacred or profane , also the hum of bees) MBh. Ka1v. &c. ; the faculty

of uttering sounds (?) TBr. (Sch.)



sIman m. (see 2. %{sI} and %{sItA}) a separation or parting of the hair so as to

leave a line AV. Br. AitUp. ; a suture of the skull L. ; f. or n. a boundary ,

border , bounds , limit , margin , frontier (lit. and fig.) Ya1jn5. Ka1v. Pur. ;

f. a ridge serving to mark the boundary of a field or village A1past. VarBr2S. ;

a bank , shore L. ; the horizon L. ; the utmost limit of anything , furthest

extent , summit , acme , ne plus ultra Ka1v. Inscr. ; the scrotum Pat. on Pa1n2.

2-3 , 36 ; a partic. high number Buddh. ; the nape of the neck L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> I doubt that because Sanskrit vowels (save *short* a-sound) are "pure", like 
> those e.g. in Italian and Finnish, whereas that Russian i-like sound (as in 
> 'bit') would be, I believe, described as reduced (not sure about that, 
> though), like many vowels for instance in English.
> 

BTW, I think it's possible that native speakers of English
might hear the *qualitative* difference between short (hrasva) and long 
(diirgha) a-sound in Sanskrit easier that for instance myself, because they are 
accustomed, so to speak, to reduced vowels, whereas
I prolly hear easier the difference in their length, because vowel
length is a so called distinctive feature in Finnish as well
as in Sanskrit!? 

For intance:

Finnish 'sama' (same), 'saama' ([something] acquired [by someone])

(In context:  Saama-ni soma siima: The cute [soma] (fishing)line
[siima] acquired [saama] by me [-ni].)


Sanskrit 'sama' (same), 'saama(n)':

2   sAman   1 n. (fr. 1. %{sA} = 1. %{san}) acquisition , possession , 
property , wealth , abundance RV. VS.

3   sAman   2 n. (m. only in TBr. ; prob. connected with %{sAntv} ; accord. 
to some fr. 1. %{sA} ; cf. 3. %{sAman}) calming , tranquillizing , (esp.) kind 
or gentle words for winning an adversary , conciliation , negotiation (one of 
the 4 Upa7yas or means of success against an enemy , the other 3 being %{dAna} 
, %{bheda} , and %{daNDa} , qq. vv. ; ibc. or instr. sg. and pl. , `" by 
friendly means or in a friendly way , willingly , voluntarily "') TBr. &c. &c.
4   sAman   3 n. (of doubtful derivation ; accord. to Un2. iv , 152 fr. 
%{so} = 2. %{sA} , as `" destroying sin "' ; in Nir. vii , 12 apparently 
connected with %{sammita} ; by others derived fr. 1. %{san} , %{sA} , %{sAntv} 
, and perhaps not to be separated fr. 1. and 2. %{sAman}) a metrical hymn or 
song of praise , (esp.) a partic. kind of sacred text or verse called a Sa1man 
(intended to be chanted , and forming , with %{Rc} , %{yajus} , %{chandas} , 
one of the 4 kinds of Vedic composition mentioned first in RV. x , 90 , 9) RV. 
&c. &c. ; any song or tune (sacred or profane , also the hum of bees) MBh. 
Ka1v. &c. ; the faculty of uttering sounds (?) TBr. (Sch.)

sIman   m. (see 2. %{sI} and %{sItA}) a separation or parting of the hair so as 
to leave a line AV. Br. AitUp. ; a suture of the skull L. ; f. or n. a boundary 
, border , bounds , limit , margin , frontier (lit. and fig.) Ya1jn5. Ka1v. 
Pur. ; f. a ridge serving to mark the boundary of a field or village A1past. 
VarBr2S. ; a bank , shore L. ; the horizon L. ; the utmost limit of anything , 
furthest extent , summit , acme , ne plus ultra Ka1v. Inscr. ; the scrotum Pat. 
on Pa1n2. 2-3 , 36 ; a partic. high number Buddh. ; the nape of the neck L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[card]

I doubt that because Sanskrit vowels (save *short* a-sound) are "pure", like 
those e.g. in Italian and Finnish, whereas that Russian i-like sound (as in 
'bit') would be, I believe, described as reduced (not sure about that, though), 
like many vowels for instance in English.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Can it be described in Sanskrit's five points of vocal articulation?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
> >
> > > Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> >
> > Yikes! Please don't try to pronounce that in Russian! :]
> >
> > y = ы, most difficult Russian vowel sound, with no equivalent in
> English. Closest sound is ei as in being, but vocalised from the back of
> the throat with the lips pulled back like a smile to show the front
> teeth
> >
> > http://listen2russian.com/lesson01/a/index.html
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[Emily Reyn]

Whatever...what a great songisn't it great to have rhythm, card?  



 From: card 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Robin
> > 
> > Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> > However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> > won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> > transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> > of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> > Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> > 
> > This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> > vision reveals sacred world.
> > 
> > This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> > intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> > (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> > the Way.
> > 
> > Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> > Her".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec>
> > 
> > 
> > As for Hvorostovsky:
> > 
> > Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the great
> > Parvarotti.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8>
> > 
> > And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA>
> > 
> > Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> > he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> > remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> > 
> > Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> 
> Yikes! Please don't try to pronounce that in Russian! :]
> 
> y = ы, most difficult Russian vowel sound, with no equivalent in 
> English. Closest sound is ei as in being, but vocalised from the back of the 
> throat with the lips pulled back like a smile to show the front teeth
> 
> http://listen2russian.com/lesson01/a/index.html
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo

That drummer *sucks*, big time!? :o


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[Emily Reyn]

Dear FullyEmpty and MeruDandy and JudyLilly:  I think you have all discovered 
the secret to the holiday season.  Opera.a real miracle, opera is.  



 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 4:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera
 

  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCPufE8AeMg 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6hKiM1zT2Y 
 
Bravissimo
"empty one "now a dream cast away in bitter winds, a hope slaughtered in dark, a
heart punctured upon itself with ancient works of Muse long lost to time.
Yes
And
when all the opera's end, and all
All FFL's crowd has dimmed,
When Golden Dome's wings are left to
Be empty, and our stories are all done, 
We may sing a last eulogy and force it on
Robin's raven wing, so that to the night, the
Shining moon would cry with a wolf. The tears of a 
Rose would douse a flame which could not be quenched. 
The rotting of words, it too bicuspid 
Opulence could streak a frown across the
Horizon with its somber, dismal inks
Drowning
all passion thick, all zeal
Tore and cast to the wind of all prudence-
Thorns
of roses piercing our dreadful heart

 

So throughout the night the stars will sing to
Our emptybill's praises with more fervor than the now
Closed opus: Yet a light will creep over us,
 Opened ways within us, we weep more 
Recognizing our solitude in our partners.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Robin
> 
> Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> 
> This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> vision reveals sacred world.
> 
> This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> the Way.
> 
> Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> Her".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec>
> 
> 
> As for Hvorostovsky:
> 
> Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the great
> Parvarotti.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8>
> 
> And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA>
> 
> Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> 
> Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo>
> 
> Turn around unknown stranger
> 
> Your uncompromising look is familiar
> 
> Maybe that is me … when I was younger
> 
> We don't always recognize ourselves but
> 
> Nothing on Earth passes without leaving a trace
> 
> And this youth, which has passed, is after all undying ...
> 
> How young we were, how truly young we were
> 
> How we loved without doubt, believed in ourselves
> 
> Everyone welcomed us with our sincere belief
> 
> We forgave our friends when they were wrong
> 
> But their treachery we couldn't forgive
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" maskedzebra@
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Emptybill,
> >
> > Dmitri is the first voice I will listen to in the morning. What he is
> making happen here (in this aria) is my aesthetic ideal. I want to be
> where he is to sing like this.
> >
> > Fabulous post, emptybill.
> >
> > I am switching from first person ontology to opera.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Emily,
> > >
> > > Here's the famous aria Largo al factotum from Rossini's The
> > > Barber of Seville (Il Barbiere desiviglia). You'll understand why
> > > you'llnever see this on American Idol or Britain's Got talent.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related
> > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related>
> > >
> > > Enjoy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related>
> > >
> >
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[emptybill]

Nice find with a better and longer translation.

Without understanding  how many people were
killed or displayed by Stalin, for a Yank this is only
a shadow of the one the Russians actually hear.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCPufE8AeMg
> 
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6hKiM1zT2Y
> 
>
>
>
> Bravissimo "empty one "now a dream cast away in bitter winds, a
> hope slaughtered in dark, a heart punctured upon itself with ancient
> works of Muse long lost to time.
>
> Yes
>
> And when all the opera's end, and all
> All FFL's crowd has dimmed,
>
> When Golden Dome's wings are left to
> Be empty, and our stories are all done,
> We may sing a last eulogy and force it on
> Robin's raven wing, so that to the night, the
> Shining moon would cry with a wolf. The tears of a
> Rose would douse a flame which could not be quenched.
> The rotting of words, it too bicuspid
> Opulence could streak a frown across the
> Horizon with its somber, dismal inks
>
> Drowning all passion thick, all zeal
> Tore and cast to the wind of all prudence-
>
> Thorns of roses piercing our dreadful heart
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So throughout the night the stars will sing to
> Our emptybill's praises with more fervor than the now
> Closed opus: Yet a light will creep over us,
>
>   Opened ways within us, we weep more
> Recognizing our solitude in our partners.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> > However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why
you
> > won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> > transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an
excess
> > of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> > Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> >
> > This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> > vision reveals sacred world.
> >
> > This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> > intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic
demons
> > (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing
out
> > the Way.
> >
> > Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> > Her".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> > 
> >
> >
> > As for Hvorostovsky:
> >
> > Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the
> great
> > Parvarotti.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> > 
> >
> > And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> > 
> >
> > Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> > he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> > remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> >
> > Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo
> > 
> >
> > Turn around unknown stranger
> >
> > Your uncompromising look is familiar
> >
> > Maybe that is me … when I was younger
> >
> > We don't always recognize ourselves but
> >
> > Nothing on Earth passes without leaving a trace
> >
> > And this youth, which has passed, is after all undying ...
> >
> > How young we were, how truly young we were
> >
> > How we loved without doubt, believed in ourselves
> >
> > Everyone welcomed us with our sincere belief
> >
> > We forgave our friends when they were wrong
> >
> > But their treachery we couldn't forgive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" maskedzebra@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Emptybill,
> > >
> > > Dmitri is the first voice I will listen to in the morning. What he
> is
> > making happen here (in this aria) is my aesthetic ideal. I want to
be
> > where he is to sing like this.
> > >
> > > Fabulous post, emptybill.
> > >
> > > I am switching from first person ontology to opera.
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Emily,
> > > >
> > > > Here's the famous aria Largo al factotum from Rossini's The
> > > > Barber of Seville (Il Barbiere desiviglia). You'll understand
why
> > > > you'llnever see this on American Idol or Britain's Got talent.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[merudanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCPufE8AeMg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6hKiM1zT2Y




Bravissimo "empty one "now a dream cast away in bitter winds, a
hope slaughtered in dark, a heart punctured upon itself with ancient
works of Muse long lost to time.

Yes

And when all the opera's end, and all
All FFL's crowd has dimmed,

When Golden Dome's wings are left to
Be empty, and our stories are all done,
We may sing a last eulogy and force it on
Robin's raven wing, so that to the night, the
Shining moon would cry with a wolf. The tears of a
Rose would douse a flame which could not be quenched.
The rotting of words, it too bicuspid
Opulence could streak a frown across the
Horizon with its somber, dismal inks

Drowning all passion thick, all zeal
Tore and cast to the wind of all prudence-

Thorns of roses piercing our dreadful heart






So throughout the night the stars will sing to
Our emptybill's praises with more fervor than the now
Closed opus: Yet a light will creep over us,

  Opened ways within us, we weep more
Recognizing our solitude in our partners.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
>
> Robin
>
> Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
>
> This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> vision reveals sacred world.
>
> This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> the Way.
>
> Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> Her".
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> 
>
>
> As for Hvorostovsky:
>
> Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the
great
> Parvarotti.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> 
>
> And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> 
>
> Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
>
> Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo
> 
>
> Turn around unknown stranger
>
> Your uncompromising look is familiar
>
> Maybe that is me … when I was younger
>
> We don't always recognize ourselves but
>
> Nothing on Earth passes without leaving a trace
>
> And this youth, which has passed, is after all undying ...
>
> How young we were, how truly young we were
>
> How we loved without doubt, believed in ourselves
>
> Everyone welcomed us with our sincere belief
>
> We forgave our friends when they were wrong
>
> But their treachery we couldn't forgive
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" maskedzebra@
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Emptybill,
> >
> > Dmitri is the first voice I will listen to in the morning. What he
is
> making happen here (in this aria) is my aesthetic ideal. I want to be
> where he is to sing like this.
> >
> > Fabulous post, emptybill.
> >
> > I am switching from first person ontology to opera.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Emily,
> > >
> > > Here's the famous aria Largo al factotum from Rossini's The
> > > Barber of Seville (Il Barbiere desiviglia). You'll understand why
> > > you'llnever see this on American Idol or Britain's Got talent.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related
> > > 
> > >
> > > Enjoy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[emptybill]

Can it be described in Sanskrit's five points of vocal articulation?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> > Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
>
> Yikes! Please don't try to pronounce that in Russian! :]
>
> y = ы, most difficult Russian vowel sound, with no equivalent in
English. Closest sound is ei as in being, but vocalised from the back of
the throat with the lips pulled back like a smile to show the front
teeth
>
> http://listen2russian.com/lesson01/a/index.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Robin
> > 
> > Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> > However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> > won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> > transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> > of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> > Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> > 
> > This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> > vision reveals sacred world.
> > 
> > This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> > intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> > (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> > the Way.
> > 
> > Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> > Her".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As for Hvorostovsky:
> > 
> > Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the great
> > Parvarotti.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> > 
> > 
> > And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> > 
> > 
> > Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> > he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> > remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> > 
> > Kak molody my byli (How young we were)
> 
> Yikes! Please don't try to pronounce that in Russian! :]
> 
> y = ы, most difficult Russian vowel sound, with no equivalent in 
> English. Closest sound is ei as in being, but vocalised from the back of the 
> throat with the lips pulled back like a smile to show the front teeth
> 
> http://listen2russian.com/lesson01/a/index.html
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU1jUiXOJpo

That drummer *sucks*, big time!? :o

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Robin
> 
> Don't despair. You can keep your precious first person ontology.
> However, when you get to heaven, Judy will be waiting to show why you
> won't need it. I have seen this and it will indeed be her
> transformed presence showing you what now awaits you. Out of an excess
> of secret humility, she won't admit this on a public forum but the
> Dakini-s have shown me the reality.
> 
> This is the truth of real Tantra (anuttara yoga-tantra) where sacred
> vision reveals sacred world.
> 
> This is why the Neo-platonists (pagan and christian) knew that the
> intelligences dancing this cosmos were not your supposed Vedic demons
> (nor Zorastrian-Semitic either) but theophanic celestials pointing out
> the Way.
> 
> Here's the real Judy and paraphrasing St. Anthony …"I have seen
> Her".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J67vh5DRURY&feature=watch-vrec
> 
> 
> 
> As for Hvorostovsky:
> 
> Here he is (before he later became the grey Lion) singing with the great
> Parvarotti.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgwWQyGioz8
> 
> 
> And here he is with the exquisite Anna Netrebko:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36vm2VoXuXA
> 
> 
> Also … Think these people can only sing with trilled r's? Here
> he is in a video that became a YouTube sensation … (It is also a
> remembrance of the era of Stalin's terror)
> 
> Kak molody my byli (How young we were)

Yikes! Please don't try to pronounce that in Russian! :]

y = ы, most difficult Russian vowel sound, with no equivalent in English. 
Closest sound is ei as in being, but vocalised from the back of the throat with 
the lips pulled back like a smile to show the front teeth

http://listen2russian.com/lesson01/a/index.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Opera

[Robin Carlsen]

Dear Emptybill,

Dmitri is the first voice I will listen to in the morning. What he is making 
happen here (in this aria) is my aesthetic ideal. I want to be where he is to 
sing like this. 

Fabulous post, emptybill.

I am switching from first person ontology to opera.

Robin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Emily,
> 
> Here's the famous aria Largo al factotum from Rossini's The
> Barber of Seville (Il Barbiere desiviglia). You'll understand why
> you'llnever see this on American Idol or Britain's Got talent.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDXr_fimQ8&feature=related
> 
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> 
> 
>   
>