[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[WillyTex]

Do:
> Rachel briefly responds to Lou Dobbs calling 
> her e 'Tea-bagging queen' then she reports on 
> the secretive 'C' Street sect... 
>
Speaking at the annual National Prayer breakfast:

"He urged leaders to be empowered by faith to 
bridge divisions and unite around common goals..."

'Obama calls for civility in Washington'
By NATASHA T. METZLER
Washington Post, February 4, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/yb2w3ny

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that 
> > > > > > emulates Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy 
> > > > > > speaks for itself about that nutbag Inhofe.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group 
> > > > > emulate?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So, according to what you reproduce below, having kids kill their own 
> > > parents is one of Mao's methods that the "C" Street group will emulate.
> > > 
> > > I see.
> > > 
> > > And do you personally believe that, John, that these elected Senators 
> > > subscribe to that method?
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Their current leader makes his points quite clearly, Shremp. Do you think 
> > his followers are members of his sect because they don't agree with him?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You're avoiding answering the question.
> 
> You made a claim.
> 
> The claim you made turns out to be that members of this organisation believe 
> in having children kill their own parents.
> 
> I then asked if you truly believed that members subscribed to this.
> 
> And you can't answer.
> 


Here's an expanded version to consider, Shremp:

Counseling Rep. Tiahrt, Doug Coe offered Pol Pot 
and Osama bin Laden as men whose commitment to their 
causes is to be emulated. Preaching on the meaning of 
Christ's words, he says, "You know Jesus said 'You got 
to put Him before mother-father-brother sister? Hitler, 
Lenin, Mao, that's what they taught the kids. Mao even 
had the kids killing their own mother and father. 
But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new 
nation. The new kingdom."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/07/21/c_street/


The members have answered for themselves, Shremp. Knowing the tenets of Coe's 
sect, they are still members. 

I can't read their minds however, but in my view anyone who would belong to an 
ideologically elitist club who considers themselves above the law and professes 
the philosophies of Pol Pot, Hitler and Mao, is a not someone fit to represent 
the people of the United States.

After briefly associating herself with the sect, Hillary Clinton found out what 
they were really about and dropped them like a hot potato.

Hillary Clinton, who once described leader Doug Coe 
as a "genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide." 
(When NBC Nightly News broadcast videotape I supplied 
of Coe comparing his Fellowship to that of "Hitler, 
Goebbels, and Himmler," Clinton immediately distanced 
herself from the group, declaring that she'd never 
given it any money.)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-26/conspiracy-on-c-street/full/

==

Author, Jeff Sharlet, of "The Family:The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of 
American Power" writes:


"Jesus didn't come to take sides. 
He came to take over." 
And by Jesus, the Family means the Family.


= = Family leaders consider their political network to be 
Christ's avant garde, an elite that transcends not 
just conventional morality but also earthly laws 
regulating lobbying. 

In the Family's early days, they debated registering as 
"a lobby for God's Kingdom." Instead, founder Abraham 
Vereide decided that the group could be more effective 
by working personally with politicians. "The more 
invisible you can make your organization," 

Vereide's successor, current leader Doug Coe preaches, 
"the more influence you can have." That's true -- which 
is why we have laws requiring lobbyists to identify 
themselves as such.

...I met the younger Coe when I lived for several weeks 
as a member of the Family. He's a surprising source of 
counsel, spiritual or otherwise. Attempting to explain 
what it means to be chosen for leadership like King David 
was -- or Mark Sanford, according to his own estimate -- 
he asked a young man who'd put himself, body and soul, 
under the Family's authority, 

"Let's say I hear you raped three little girls. What 
would I think of you?" 

The man guessed that Coe would probably think that he was 
a monster. 

"No," answered Coe, "I wouldn't." 

Why? Because, as a member of the Family, he's among what 
Family leaders refer to as the "new chosen." If you're chosen, 
the normal rules don't apply.


= = The Family likes to call itself a "Christian Mafia," but it began 74 years 
ago as an anti-New Deal coalition of businessmen convinced that organized labor 
was under the sway of Satan. 

The Great Depression, they believed, was a punish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [snip]
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that 
> > > > > emulates Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks 
> > > > > for itself about that nutbag Inhofe.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > [snip]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group 
> > > > emulate?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So, according to what you reproduce below, having kids kill their own 
> > parents is one of Mao's methods that the "C" Street group will emulate.
> > 
> > I see.
> > 
> > And do you personally believe that, John, that these elected Senators 
> > subscribe to that method?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Their current leader makes his points quite clearly, Shremp. Do you think his 
> followers are members of his sect because they don't agree with him?
> 






You're avoiding answering the question.

You made a claim.

The claim you made turns out to be that members of this organisation believe in 
having children kill their own parents.

I then asked if you truly believed that members subscribed to this.

And you can't answer.







> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ~~ The Fellowship Foundation or "The Family" and "C Street" Exposed ~~
> > > 
> > > Excerpts:
> > > 
> > > ...The founder believed that god gave him a new revelation saying that 
> > > Christianity had gotten it wrong for two thousand years and that what 
> > > most people think of as Christianity, as being about, helping the weak 
> > > and the poor and the meek and the down and out, he believes god came to 
> > > him one night in April in 1935 and said what Christianity should really 
> > > be about is building more power for the already powerful. 
> > > 
> > > And that these powerful men who were chosen by god can then if they want 
> > > to dispense blessings to the rest of us, through a kind of trickle-down 
> > > fundamentalism."
> > > 
> > > ...In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a 
> > > gospel of "biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. 
> > > 
> > > Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current 
> > > leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new 
> > > power where we can't." 
> > > 
> > > Coe once stated, "Mao even had the kids killing their own mother and 
> > > father. But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new nation. The new 
> > > kingdom."
> > > 
> > > According to the Washington Post...the Fellowship Foundation is itself 
> > > linked to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a 
> > > Mission (YWAM), whose Washington, DC branch owns the "C Street House." 
> > > 
> > > "YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for 
> > > Christian world-control," which involves establishing domination over 
> > > government, education, business, the media, and other areas.
> > > 
> > > Full article here: http://snipurl.com/o8qps 
> > > 
> > > http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/fellowship-foundation-or-family-and-c.html
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that 
> > > > emulates Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks 
> > > > for itself about that nutbag Inhofe.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group emulate?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So, according to what you reproduce below, having kids kill their own parents 
> is one of Mao's methods that the "C" Street group will emulate.
> 
> I see.
> 
> And do you personally believe that, John, that these elected Senators 
> subscribe to that method?
> 



Their current leader makes his points quite clearly, Shremp. Do you think his 
followers are members of his sect because they don't agree with him?





> 
> 
> 
> 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > ~~ The Fellowship Foundation or "The Family" and "C Street" Exposed ~~
> > 
> > Excerpts:
> > 
> > ...The founder believed that god gave him a new revelation saying that 
> > Christianity had gotten it wrong for two thousand years and that what most 
> > people think of as Christianity, as being about, helping the weak and the 
> > poor and the meek and the down and out, he believes god came to him one 
> > night in April in 1935 and said what Christianity should really be about is 
> > building more power for the already powerful. 
> > 
> > And that these powerful men who were chosen by god can then if they want to 
> > dispense blessings to the rest of us, through a kind of trickle-down 
> > fundamentalism."
> > 
> > ...In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel 
> > of "biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. 
> > 
> > Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current 
> > leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new 
> > power where we can't." 
> > 
> > Coe once stated, "Mao even had the kids killing their own mother and 
> > father. But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new nation. The new 
> > kingdom."
> > 
> > According to the Washington Post...the Fellowship Foundation is itself 
> > linked to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a 
> > Mission (YWAM), whose Washington, DC branch owns the "C Street House." 
> > 
> > "YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for 
> > Christian world-control," which involves establishing domination over 
> > government, education, business, the media, and other areas.
> > 
> > Full article here: http://snipurl.com/o8qps 
> > 
> > http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/fellowship-foundation-or-family-and-c.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[WillyTex]

do.rflex wrote:
> You can read the whole article here:
>
Funded by the likes of George Soros...

You can read the whole article here:

'Left-Wing Website With Direct Ties To White House Smears Alex Jones'
Prison Planet:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[WillyTex]

> > Secret  'C'  Street  Christianist sect 
> > goes global...
> >
wayback wrote:
> There is a book out called The Family...
> >
Oh yeah, and some members and ringleaders
of a Hindu cult, one that led at least three 
wives out of the desert of Utah, to join
a sect down in Brazil, a coffee-clatch no 
less. My Gawd, a 'Prayer Breakfast' out on
the Washington D.C. Mall. 

This is just totally outrageous

LOL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:


[snip]

> 
> • C Street's support for foreign dictators like Yoweri Museveni in Uganda, 
> Papa Doc Duvalier of Haiti, and Suharto in Indonesia...

[snip]

Gosh, support for all those dictators remind me of a certain late charismatic 
guru who headed a certain spiritual movement...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > 
> > > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that 
> > > emulates Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks for 
> > > itself about that nutbag Inhofe.
> > > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > 
> > Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group emulate?




So, according to what you reproduce below, having kids kill their own parents 
is one of Mao's methods that the "C" Street group will emulate.

I see.

And do you personally believe that, John, that these elected Senators subscribe 
to that method?





> >
> 
> 
> ~~ The Fellowship Foundation or "The Family" and "C Street" Exposed ~~
> 
> Excerpts:
> 
> ...The founder believed that god gave him a new revelation saying that 
> Christianity had gotten it wrong for two thousand years and that what most 
> people think of as Christianity, as being about, helping the weak and the 
> poor and the meek and the down and out, he believes god came to him one night 
> in April in 1935 and said what Christianity should really be about is 
> building more power for the already powerful. 
> 
> And that these powerful men who were chosen by god can then if they want to 
> dispense blessings to the rest of us, through a kind of trickle-down 
> fundamentalism."
> 
> ...In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel 
> of "biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. 
> 
> Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current 
> leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new power 
> where we can't." 
> 
> Coe once stated, "Mao even had the kids killing their own mother and father. 
> But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new nation. The new kingdom."
> 
> According to the Washington Post...the Fellowship Foundation is itself linked 
> to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a Mission 
> (YWAM), whose Washington, DC branch owns the "C Street House." 
> 
> "YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for 
> Christian world-control," which involves establishing domination over 
> government, education, business, the media, and other areas.
> 
> Full article here: http://snipurl.com/o8qps 
> 
> http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/fellowship-foundation-or-family-and-c.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:

> > ~~ The Fellowship Foundation or "The Family" and "C Street" Exposed ~~
> > 
> > Excerpts:
> > 
> > ...The founder believed that god gave him a new revelation saying that 
> > Christianity had gotten it wrong for two thousand years and that what most 
> > people think of as Christianity, as being about, helping the weak and the 
> > poor and the meek and the down and out, he believes god came to him one 
> > night in April in 1935 and said what Christianity should really be about is 
> > building more power for the already powerful. 
> > 
> > And that these powerful men who were chosen by god can then if they want to 
> > dispense blessings to the rest of us, through a kind of trickle-down 
> > fundamentalism."
> > 
> > ...In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel 
> > of "biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. 
> > 
> > Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current 
> > leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new 
> > power where we can't." 
> > 
> > Coe once stated, "Mao even had the kids killing their own mother and 
> > father. But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new nation. The new 
> > kingdom."
> > 
> > According to the Washington Post...the Fellowship Foundation is itself 
> > linked to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a 
> > Mission (YWAM), whose Washington, DC branch owns the "C Street House." 
> > 
> > "YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for 
> > Christian world-control," which involves establishing domination over 
> > government, education, business, the media, and other areas.
> > 
> > Full article here: http://snipurl.com/o8qps 
> > 
> > http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/fellowship-foundation-or-family-and-c.html
> 



> There is a book out called The Family - The Secret Fundamentalism at the 
> Heart of American Power by Jeff Sharlet.  I am just beginning to read it - 
> was a best seller a few years ago and is an expose of the Fellowship 
> Foundation.
> 


Jeff Sharlet has an article in the Daily Beast: 'Secrets of C Street'


- - The Washington prayer group known as the Family may be in the news after 
several of its members had affairs, but it has been setting the agenda—and 
propping up foreign dictators—for years.

In this article, Jeff Sharlet, who has tracked the C Street House since 2002, 
discloses:

• That the group espouses a religious philosophy that holds God-anointed 
leaders are necessary for Christ's second coming.

• A list of American politicians associated with the Family, most of whom are 
right-wing Republicans but also some Democrats, including, at one time, Hillary 
Clinton.

• How the group does not register as a lobby even as it behaves like one, 
offering foreign leaders access to its politicians at events like the National 
Prayer Breakfast.

• American politicians who travel on the Family's dime and carry out its agenda 
abroad in countries like Serbia, Croatia, Kosovo, Albania, Bulgaria, Belarus, 
Sudan, and Israel.

• C Street's support for foreign dictators like Yoweri Museveni in Uganda, Papa 
Doc Duvalier of Haiti, and Suharto in Indonesia...


You can read the whole article here:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-26/conspiracy-on-c-street/full/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[wayback71]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > 
> > > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that 
> > > emulates Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks for 
> > > itself about that nutbag Inhofe.
> > > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > 
> > Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group emulate?
> >
> 
> 
> ~~ The Fellowship Foundation or "The Family" and "C Street" Exposed ~~
> 
> Excerpts:
> 
> ...The founder believed that god gave him a new revelation saying that 
> Christianity had gotten it wrong for two thousand years and that what most 
> people think of as Christianity, as being about, helping the weak and the 
> poor and the meek and the down and out, he believes god came to him one night 
> in April in 1935 and said what Christianity should really be about is 
> building more power for the already powerful. 
> 
> And that these powerful men who were chosen by god can then if they want to 
> dispense blessings to the rest of us, through a kind of trickle-down 
> fundamentalism."
> 
> ...In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel 
> of "biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. 
> 
> Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current 
> leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new power 
> where we can't." 
> 
> Coe once stated, "Mao even had the kids killing their own mother and father. 
> But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new nation. The new kingdom."
> 
> According to the Washington Post...the Fellowship Foundation is itself linked 
> to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a Mission 
> (YWAM), whose Washington, DC branch owns the "C Street House." 
> 
> "YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for 
> Christian world-control," which involves establishing domination over 
> government, education, business, the media, and other areas.
> 
> Full article here: http://snipurl.com/o8qps 
> 
> http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/fellowship-foundation-or-family-and-c.html

There is a book out called The Family - The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart 
of American Power by Jeff Sharlet.  I am just beginning to read it - was a best 
seller a few years ago and is an expose of the Fellowship Foundation.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[WillyTex]

do.rflex wrote:
> Secret 'C'  Street  Christianist sect goes global...
>
What an idiot!

The National Prayer Breakfast was first held in 1953, 
and the event is now attended by over 3,400 guests 
including dignitaries from many nations. 

The President of the United States typically makes an 
address at the breakfast. The event is officially 
hosted by members of Congress. 

Democrats and Republicans serve on the organizing 
committee, and leadership alternates each year between 
the House and the Senate.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance  wrote:
> 
> Hardly needs to be said here, but MMY had no problems working with 
> dictators/tyrants/terrorists.  TB's rationalize this without a problem, but 
> step back just a little and it reveals that he had certainly decided his 
> morals were "not of this world" - just like the C-Street people in the MSNBC 
> piece.


Rubbish ! Maharishi never "worked with dictators". 

What He did was to go into a certain dictatoridden country where lots of people 
where killed and supressed, fearridden contries indeed, together with His 
TM-Disciples raising the collective consciousness of that particular country. 

The effect was that they left "office" quietly where bloodshed was anticipated, 
revolution was expected and embassies closed. 

Maharishi was quietly involved with this kind of work for decades. I was 
involved in several such projects, most notebly in softening Marcos in the 
Philippines to leave the country. A couple of days after we hailed him and 
lifted him up in the Presidental Palace (Rick Archer was also there) he simply 
said NO when a General insisted they should shoot down the demonstrators on the 
bridge leading to the Palace. A few days later he simply left the country, just 
like the Shah did.

Maharishi never worked with dictators. He made them quietly slip away without 
bloodshed to the innoscent people on the streets. Be it Argentina, Iran, The 
Phillipines or Ethiopia. He did let Bush slip away though but then again the 
americans obviously where too immature to understand that they had been conned; 
no uprising was in the making there. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > 
> > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that 
> > emulates Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks for 
> > itself about that nutbag Inhofe.
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> 
> Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group emulate?
>


~~ The Fellowship Foundation or "The Family" and "C Street" Exposed ~~

Excerpts:

...The founder believed that god gave him a new revelation saying that 
Christianity had gotten it wrong for two thousand years and that what most 
people think of as Christianity, as being about, helping the weak and the poor 
and the meek and the down and out, he believes god came to him one night in 
April in 1935 and said what Christianity should really be about is building 
more power for the already powerful. 

And that these powerful men who were chosen by god can then if they want to 
dispense blessings to the rest of us, through a kind of trickle-down 
fundamentalism."

...In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel of 
"biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. 

Citing Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current 
leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new power 
where we can't." 

Coe once stated, "Mao even had the kids killing their own mother and father. 
But it wasn't murder. It was for building the new nation. The new kingdom."

According to the Washington Post...the Fellowship Foundation is itself linked 
to an even more secretive religious organization — Youth With a Mission (YWAM), 
whose Washington, DC branch owns the "C Street House." 

"YWAM founder leader Loren Cunningham has publicly outlined a vision for 
Christian world-control," which involves establishing domination over 
government, education, business, the media, and other areas.

Full article here: http://snipurl.com/o8qps 

http://geniusofinsanityworld.blogspot.com/2009/07/fellowship-foundation-or-family-and-c.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[scienceofabundance]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> do.rflex wrote:
> > The fact that Inhofe belongs to that 
> > crackpot 'C' Street group...
> > 
> >


> You idiot, 

!! I love the intensely beautiful (beautifully intense?) emotions that FFL 
allows us to display. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[WillyTex]

do.rflex wrote:
> The fact that Inhofe belongs to that 
> crackpot 'C' Street group...
> 
You idiot, the 'C' Street group is widely 
known for organizing the National Prayer 
Breakfast, at which every President since 
President Dwight D. Eisenhower, including 
President Barack Obama in 2009, has spoken.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist
> sect goes global
>  
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > Rachel briefly responds to Lou Dobbs calling her e 
> > 'Tea-bagging queen' then she reports on the secretive 
> > 'C' Street sect. 
> 
> "Briefly" is the key. She dealt with it, and
> with style, and then moved on to the important
> stuff.
> 
> > This so-called 'Christian' group openly states that 
> > they emulate Hitler and Mao. 
> > 
> > Watch her report here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32195442
> 
> With the recent talk about Walter Conkrite, I found
> myself wondering whether there is anyone in the 
> mainstream News media today who is in his class. 
> 
> I didn't ponder the question for very long, but 
> when I did I came up with only two names, both -- 
> interestingly -- women: Rachel Maddow and Amy 
> Goodman.
> I wouldn't call Amy Goodman mainstream, but she's definitely got class. She
> spoke in FF a couple of years ago to a packed, enthusiastic audience.
>


I saw her interviewed a few months ago on TV.

I was NOT impressed.

She appeared with someone else and they both claimed that their point of view 
was the one that the MSM was NOT representing and there were conspiracies 
abound that were responsible for this.

Bordering on being a nutcase was my assessment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[scienceofabundance]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> Watch her report here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32195442
>

I just watched this report. Two things came to my mind: One, TMO fundamentally 
has the same goal - takeover of the world according to its philosophies and 
methods.  Two, I wonder how many other organizations such as these (TMO, 
C-Street (or whatever it is called), Scientology) are out there - each thinking 
they have the best/only way?

Hardly needs to be said here, but MMY had no problems working with 
dictators/tyrants/terrorists.  TB's rationalize this without a problem, but 
step back just a little and it reveals that he had certainly decided his morals 
were "not of this world" - just like the C-Street people in the MSNBC piece.

For some reason, I am reminded of and laughing about a situation in which I was 
involved where someone came to give advanced techniques.  When the weekend was 
over, we drove him to the airport and he left the country with the weekend's 
takings in his hat!  This was before all the security of the last decade. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:


[snip]

> 
> The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that emulates 
> Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks for itself about 
> that nutbag Inhofe.
> 

[snip]


Which of Hitler's and Mao's methods of rule does "C" Street group emulate?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Rachel briefly responds to Lou Dobbs calling her e 'Tea-bagging queen' then 
> > she reports on the secretive 'C' Street sect. 
> > 
> > This so-called 'Christian' group openly states that they emulate Hitler and 
> > Mao. 
> > 
> > Watch her report here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32195442
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Maddow puts forward a VERY weak argument when she attacks Senator Inhofe for 
> spending $179,000 for trips abroad over 10 years.
>





The fact that Inhofe belongs to that crackpot 'C' Street group that emulates 
Hitler and Mao's methods of rule instead of democracy speaks for itself about 
that nutbag Inhofe.








> 
> Does she not realize how LITTLE that is?  That averates $17,900 a year for 
> trips which is almost nothing for Congressmen.  To put it in perspective, 
> when the president has a date night out with Michelle, the bill is somewhere 
> around $250,000.
> 
> She also attacked him for his responses on the birthers. But what Inhofe said 
> was extremely neutral and what one would expect someone without the facts to 
> say ...kinda like what the president said when asked at that press conference 
> about Gates ('I don't have all the facts') but without putting his foot in 
> his mouth and contradicting himself with the "stupidly" remark.
> 
> I like Rachel but she really should choose her battles a wee bit more 
> carefully.
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:31 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist
sect goes global
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> Rachel briefly responds to Lou Dobbs calling her e 
> 'Tea-bagging queen' then she reports on the secretive 
> 'C' Street sect. 

"Briefly" is the key. She dealt with it, and
with style, and then moved on to the important
stuff.

> This so-called 'Christian' group openly states that 
> they emulate Hitler and Mao. 
> 
> Watch her report here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32195442

With the recent talk about Walter Conkrite, I found
myself wondering whether there is anyone in the 
mainstream News media today who is in his class. 

I didn't ponder the question for very long, but 
when I did I came up with only two names, both -- 
interestingly -- women: Rachel Maddow and Amy 
Goodman.
I wouldn't call Amy Goodman mainstream, but she's definitely got class. She
spoke in FF a couple of years ago to a packed, enthusiastic audience.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Rachel briefly responds to Lou Dobbs calling her e 'Tea-bagging queen' then 
> she reports on the secretive 'C' Street sect. 
> 
> This so-called 'Christian' group openly states that they emulate Hitler and 
> Mao. 
> 
> Watch her report here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32195442
>



Maddow puts forward a VERY weak argument when she attacks Senator Inhofe for 
spending $179,000 for trips abroad over 10 years.

Does she not realize how LITTLE that is?  That averates $17,900 a year for 
trips which is almost nothing for Congressmen.  To put it in perspective, when 
the president has a date night out with Michelle, the bill is somewhere around 
$250,000.

She also attacked him for his responses on the birthers. But what Inhofe said 
was extremely neutral and what one would expect someone without the facts to 
say ...kinda like what the president said when asked at that press conference 
about Gates ('I don't have all the facts') but without putting his foot in his 
mouth and contradicting himself with the "stupidly" remark.

I like Rachel but she really should choose her battles a wee bit more carefully.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Secret 'C' Street Christianist sect goes global

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> Rachel briefly responds to Lou Dobbs calling her e 
> 'Tea-bagging queen' then she reports on the secretive 
> 'C' Street sect. 

"Briefly" is the key. She dealt with it, and
with style, and then moved on to the important
stuff.

> This so-called 'Christian' group openly states that 
> they emulate Hitler and Mao. 
> 
> Watch her report here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#32195442

With the recent talk about Walter Conkrite, I found
myself wondering whether there is anyone in the 
mainstream News media today who is in his class. 

I didn't ponder the question for very long, but 
when I did I came up with only two names, both -- 
interestingly -- women: Rachel Maddow and Amy 
Goodman.