[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, that becomes a consideration here.  What is Fair to exclude on?  
 

 Dispossessing the way they have administrated it is asserted to be fair and 
rational except that the ‘non-compete’ clauses for membership that relate to 
doing non-Maharishi Jyotish and doing non-Maharishi yoga, Non-Maharishi 
ayurveda, etc, came along as ‘add-ons’ in a sequence of time.   
 This nature of character of assessing fealty has been asserting itself 
excluding and sending away whole categories of interested practicing meditators 
for 35 years. For positive reasons of expansion this needs to change now.   

That old business and fanatical believer mindset of separating practicing 
meditators from the group meditation as a primary means of retribution against 
categories of private life for members has been little other than corrosive to 
what was a larger communal mission and hope. -Jai
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It seems like a fair enough demarcation to say that those who have set 
themselves up as teachers of another discipline would not be compatible with 
ongoing Dome TM-Sidhis programs. As Ken Kesey famously said, "you're either on 
the bus or off the bus...". Rather than make it an edict though, with spying 
and all of that, the interference of other programs should be clearly explained 
in a non-judgmental way, and then self-enforced. Instead of making it a value 
judgment, the science behind it could be clarified. The TMO made it a holier 
than thou issue and that f'ed everything up - Perhaps a higher consciousness at 
the helm will help.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The 'non-compete' clauses. 
 

 A sad irony in this thread which has been sore effect for the community here 
is that these recognized experts and a lot of jyotish experts who have come out 
of the old ™ community with their early training in Maharishi jyotish are 
technically disbarred, disenfranchised by guideline, from membership 
participation in our ™ community group meditations. 
 
 The Maharishi Foundation ™.org National standards for participation as they 
stand now specifically exclude people who ‘promote’ other systems of jyotish, 
excluding from the Dome meditations here and other sponsored ™ group 
meditations. 'Other systems' as in non-Maharishi jyotish.  
 

 This has been applied to old ™’ers for quite a number of years. For some 
number of years the patronizing ($) non-Maharishi jyotish/yagya was certain 
grounds for exclusion from the Dome meditations and used to exclude practicing 
meditators from membership in the group. Meditators are now free to ‘consult’ 
with non-maharishi jyotishi but the exclusion still stands over ‘promoting’ in 
practice jyotish using other systems deemed non-Maharishi jyotish astrology. 

 A conservative or fanatical business mind that is welded with strong emotional 
(fanatical) belief inside about the exclusivity of all ™ teachers are thinking 
that all old, de-certs, re-certs and new ™ teachers are sales representatives 
of all that is now ™ and hence are strictly liable to business non-compete 
constraints through the movement right to administratively denying membership 
using the validation of Dome badges for inclusion in the communal group 
practice of meditation as a preferred means of sales-force discipline.  

 In effect what could be adjudicated by a human resources department or a legal 
department more 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 09/11/2016 11:03 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


*(snip) *

*Duh. This is not exactly breaking news, Bhairitu. Did you
really think I didn't know all this?*



*You sure write like you didn't. But then all you're about on FFL
is destroying messenger and not about the message.*

*
*

*Completely untrue, and you know it.*


*But that is not unusual for a narcissist.*

*
*

*Boy, you're really into the inadvertent irony thing, aren't you,
calling me a narcissist.*



*Lets see the hands of everyone who thinks Judy is a narcissist...  
Almost everyone. *



*

So I'm talking about out of all those thousands there are
just a handful of people who are reading or subscribed to
**FFL (and some no longer read though subscribed).*

*
*

*I wouldn't call 1,600 people "just a handful." But maybe you
have really big hands, huh?*



*I'm on forums where one topic has more participants than FFL.*


And you think that makes 1,600 "just a handful"? Sal is right;
you're so utterly out of it there's no point in trying to converse
with you reasonably.



*LOL!  Boy are you impressed that FFL has had 1600 "sign up"... back in 
the day.  How many of those 1600 still read it at all? And some are 
probably dead.


*



*
*

*Out of that we get a few zealots who know little about
authentic Indian meditation and yoga and think TM is the end
all be all.  Which it ain't. Sloppy writing my ass.  This
isn't an English course.*

*
*

*Most people write so they can be understood. You frequently
don't bother.*



*Others don't seem to have a problem understanding what I write. 
You must have a reading disability.*


*
*

*Actually, your posts have frequently confused other people
because your writing is so careless. It's not just moi.
*



*Probably just you and your narcisters.

*


*
*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 (snip) Duh. This is not exactly breaking news, Bhairitu. Did you really think 
I didn't know all this?


 
 You sure write like you didn't.  But then all you're about on FFL is 
destroying messenger and not about the message. 
 Completely untrue, and you know it. 
 But that is not unusual for a narcissist. 
 Boy, you're really into the inadvertent irony thing, aren't you, calling me a 
narcissist. 
 
 So I'm talking about out of all those thousands there are just a handful of 
people who are reading or subscribed to FFL (and some no longer read though 
subscribed). 
 I wouldn't call 1,600 people "just a handful." But maybe you have really big 
hands, huh?




 
 I'm on forums where one topic has more participants than FFL. 
 And you think that makes 1,600 "just a handful"? Sal is right; you're so 
utterly out of it there's no point in trying to converse with you reasonably.
 
 Out of that we get a few zealots who know little about authentic Indian 
meditation and yoga and think TM is the end all be all.  Which it ain't. Sloppy 
writing my ass.  This isn't an English course.
 
 Most people write so they can be understood. You frequently don't bother.




 
 Others don't seem to have a problem understanding what I write.  You must have 
a reading disability. 
 Actually, your posts have frequently confused other people because your 
writing is so careless. It's not just moi.
 
 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 09/10/2016 12:27 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

(snip)

*No, you still don't get it so let me break it down for you.

It the 1975 it was estimated that 40,000 people a month learned TM
by 1978 that had dropped to around 3000 a month.  So hundreds of
thousands learned TM back in the 1970s. Maybe it was over a
million.  The TMO may be keeping those numbers proprietary though
maybe Rick or someone else here knows for sure.*

*
*

*Duh. This is not exactly breaking news, Bhairitu. Did you really
think I didn't know all this?*



*You sure write like you didn't.  But then all you're about on FFL is 
destroying messenger and not about the message. But that is not unusual 
for a narcissist.


*


*

So I'm talking about out of all those thousands there are just a
handful of people who are reading or subscribed to **FFL (and some
no longer read though subscribed).*

*
*

*I wouldn't call 1,600 people "just a handful." But maybe you have
really big hands, huh?*



*I'm on forums where one topic has more participants than FFL. *


*
*

*Out of that we get a few zealots who know little about authentic
Indian meditation and yoga and think TM is the end all be all. 
Which it ain't. Sloppy writing my ass.  This isn't an English course.*


*
*

*Most people write so they can be understood. You frequently don't
bother.*



*Others don't seem to have a problem understanding what I write.  You 
must have a reading disability.


*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

duh, I use my real name and I'm not a moderator! 


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    
There must be hundreds of people that have posted to FFL using an alias - for 
obvious reasons. Why is there such an interest in their identity? Hardly anyone 
seems to use their real name - except the moderators.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.
I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this point 
I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase "banning 
and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here is a 
tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop questions 
perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys are 
conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :

Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
Sal








 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:










last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I meant on FFL! 


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    
My suggestion is to replace all of the top administrators at MUM and the TM Org 
and to stop the dome badge requirement - let people all meditate together, 
without prejudice or fear of banishment and shunning. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

ananda, do you have any suggestions for dealing with alleged banning, shunning 
and stalking?


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once spent 
thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - now 
required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. 
But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the 
TM Org turned into a cult.
My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the same 
mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to mention the 
cyber stalking. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Plus all the thousands who learned TMyears ago, thought it was just a bit of a 
relaxation technique andhave little interest in people still interested in TM 
or who usedto be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group 
likethis.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is thecenter of 
the universe.

 

 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:



  The disaffected is probably inthe hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned.Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group likethus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the currentcampus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there morethan one FFL moderator? Right.


  From:ananda_das_gupta<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
So, how many havebeen banned from the Dome?Apparently none of the FFLmoderators 
are in good standingwith the TM Org. One was actuallybanned, right?

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong!I was an active poster toFFL and have not beenbanned from Dome, 
MUMcampus, etc.
ananda_das_gupta<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
So,you calledthem on their"shit" and youare an adult.And, there areno 
victimsfrom banningand shunningat the MUMcampus. It's amatter ofpersonalchoice, 
to getbanned fromthe Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting toFFL has 
beenbanned fromthe MUMcampus, right?
So,why is Doug,the moderator,so upset? 

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2is very muchactive, if youcare to joinand postthere. Theones whocaused so 
muchtrouble herewent to FFL2,until they gotcalled ontheir shit,and 
madetracks,willingly. Weare all adultshere, makingour owndecisions.There 
aren'tany victims.Those who havechosen toexcludethemselves didit by 
choice,without anyprompting. Asfor thosebooted fromFFL forinadequatesocial 
skills,live andlearn. 

So, howz aboutsome of that"controversialspirituality"from you, huh?Let's see 
howmuch you arebanned,shunned,stalked andharassed aftersharingit...but Iwon't 
beholding mybreath. Yourfantasydoesn't holdup. 

There aremostly thosewho get alongin the world,and there area few fuckups. The 
fuckupsunfortunatelyleak theirgarbage ontoothers, andfor thatreason are 
notwelcome here.Get it? Couldbe a siteabout *shoes*and the samerules apply.

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Oneof the otherFFL moderatorscreated a"free speech"zone on YahooGroups, but, it 
looks like they were shut down bycyberstalkers,following themaround on 
theinternet.
Kickedout of theDome andbanned fromcampus -shunned.Banned fromFFL andstalked. 
Thisjust doesn'tappear to bemuch of aspiritualgroup. Nowthat's ironic!
---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL andDoug aren'tlike TheCorner wherethere is abouncer at 
thedoor with aprepared listof those whocan't even getin the room.Talk 
aboutcensorship andlack of freespeech. Inaddition, youcan't evenread 
anythingthere unlessyou are on thelist ofapprovedindividuals.And the guywho 
startedthat forum andthose who arein attendancewere the onesgiving Doug ahard 
timeabout the lackof free speechat FFL. Tooironic to bebelieved.Luckily, sinceI 
knoweveryone overthere and haveheard whatthey have tosay about ahundred 
timesI'm notremotelyinterested ingettingadmitted. Somethings justdon't 
getbetter withage.


---infairfieldl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for the hug. The "banning and shunning" refers to the "dispossessed" 
mentioned by Doug. Obviously there's a caste system in the TM Org, which 
probably comes from the social background of the founder himself - nobody is 
perfect. It's just surprising to see it in the USA. 
 

 Not so surprising at all. The USA is full of haves and have nots, members and 
non-members, the included and the excluded, the up-to-snuffs and the 
ineligibles. It happens everywhere and within thousands of contexts. Think 
country clubs, Studio 54's and, oh, The Water Closet. 
 

 In India there are whole classes of people that get banned and shunned - 
millions of people, due to their birth circumstances.
 

 Think USA.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's not only funny but a bit sad to see grown adults (chronologically anyway) 
so afraid of conflicting opinions they would build a virtual wall around their 
tiny space on the Web.

That quote of Barry's is hilarious.

For some reason I'm not entirely sure of, Bhairitu has this fantasy that people 
here actually *care* about whatever they're gossiping about over at the 
Dunce_Corner.  As if we already didn't assume that was the whole reason for its 
existence in the first place.  I guess his life is so empty without the various 
permutations of "Nyah, nyah  nyah, nyah nyah!" that he seems to revel in why 
try to get him to see reality?  Although you'd think he'd get tired of the same 
old shtick, he and his silly fantasies do seem to get along well together.  

Sal 


> On Sep 10, 2016, at 2:20 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not on The_Corner. They would not, of course, allow me to join. And I 
> don't see anybody here "freaking out" about the Cornerites discussing us--do 
> you? That's one of the things we're laughing at, in addition to the grotesque 
> but utterly oblivious hypocrisy of the way they've set themselves up to keep 
> out all opinions they don't like after attempting to crucify Doug by accusing 
> him (falsely) of doing the same thing. And then to complete the irony, they 
> don't allow nonmembers even to read their posts.
> 
> I posted this snippet from a February 2015 rant of Barry's on FFL2 awhile 
> back:
> 
> Well, now they've got their own playground, where they can claim anything 
> they want, and the audience will just go "Wow," and no one will ever ask them 
> to back up anything they claim. It's like they've managed to create the 
> ultimate sandbox for overly-entitled children. And I say "Fine," and wish 
> them well with it, if they're so shallow that that kind of environment 
> actually appeals to them. But I *DO* wonder WHY -- now that they've got this 
> fairy-tale world where they can spin their fairy tales all day long and no 
> one will ever call them on them and point out that they *are* fairy tales -- 
> WHY they spend so much time still bitching about how they were persecuted 
> back on FFL?
> 
> Talk about your inadvertent irony... This was about The_Peak, of course, 
> which (unlike The_Closet) admits just about anyone and is readable by 
> nonmembers. There was a little complaining at first about how they were 
> treated on FFL, but it quickly subsided and hasn't cropped up again.
> 
> There are many other similar posts from Barry and his thugs bitching about 
> The_Peak; this is just one small sample. They went after it for months on end.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> So what are you laughing about on The Corner other than your bunch freaking 
> out about us discussing you?
> 
>> On 09/10/2016 10:18 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
> 
>>  
>> They've given us a lotta laughs too, the poor hopeless shmendriks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>> 
>> We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the show.  
>> Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help him?  Nurse 
>> Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life just grand in the 
>> Funny Farm Lounge? :-D
>> 
>>> On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as 
>>> Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
>>> (mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the 
>>> other members are, especially about FFL history.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm 
>>> being "trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and 
>>> shunning on campus?
>>> 
>>> I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
>>> point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
>>> "banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. 
>>> Here is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless 
>>> loop questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where 
>>> the boys are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're 
>>> not preening themselves. 
>>> 
>>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>> 
>>> He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the 
>>> giveaway is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if 
>>> he hasn't heard what the other person has written. I think that might be 
>>> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the show.  
Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help him?  Nurse 
Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life just grand in the 
Funny Farm Lounge? :-D
 
Is this the equivalent of the boys from the clubhouse sneaking over to the 
girl's clubhouse after having let a frog go through the window in order to 
watch them squeal? Too bad it's so boring over there at the Water Closet  that 
you can't find enough to amuse yourselves. But then, listening to the same old 
stories and blowhards over there year after year would numb the minds of even 
Trump supporters.
 
 On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as 
Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.
 
 
 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... wrote :
 
 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
 
 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 (snip)

 No, you still don't get it so let me break it down for you.
 
 It the 1975 it was estimated that 40,000 people a month learned TM by 1978 
that had dropped to around 3000 a month.  So hundreds of thousands learned TM 
back in the 1970s.  Maybe it was over a million.  The TMO may be keeping those 
numbers proprietary though maybe Rick or someone else here knows for sure. 
 Duh. This is not exactly breaking news, Bhairitu. Did you really think I 
didn't know all this? 
 
 So I'm talking about out of all those thousands there are just a handful of 
people who are reading or subscribed to FFL (and some no longer read though 
subscribed). 
 I wouldn't call 1,600 people "just a handful." But maybe you have really big 
hands, huh? 
 Out of that we get a few zealots who know little about authentic Indian 
meditation and yoga and think TM is the end all be all.  Which it ain't. Sloppy 
writing my ass.  This isn't an English course.
 
 Most people write so they can be understood. You frequently don't bother. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[feste37]

The issue is not whether anyone is using his or her real name, but whether 
several of the anonymous handles belong to the same person. I find that quite 
interesting, since it's hard to alter one's own writing style, and I doubt 
whether one person could successfully use two anonymous handles for long before 
people realized that the same hand was responsible for them both. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 There must be hundreds of people that have posted to FFL using an alias - for 
obvious reasons. Why is there such an interest in their identity? Hardly anyone 
seems to use their real name - except the moderators.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm not on The_Corner. They would not, of course, allow me to join. And I don't 
see anybody here "freaking out" about the Cornerites discussing us--do you? 
That's one of the things we're laughing at, in addition to the grotesque but 
utterly oblivious hypocrisy of the way they've set themselves up to keep out 
all opinions they don't like after attempting to crucify Doug by accusing him 
(falsely) of doing the same thing. And then to complete the irony, they don't 
allow nonmembers even to read their posts. 

 I posted this snippet from a February 2015 rant of Barry's on FFL2 awhile back:
 

 Well, now they've got their own playground, where they can claim anything they 
want, and the audience will just go "Wow," and no one will ever ask them to 
back up anything they claim. It's like they've managed to create the ultimate 
sandbox for overly-entitled children. And I say "Fine," and wish them well with 
it, if they're so shallow that that kind of environment actually appeals to 
them. But I *DO* wonder WHY -- now that they've got this fairy-tale world where 
they can spin their fairy tales all day long and no one will ever call them on 
them and point out that they *are* fairy tales -- WHY they spend so much time 
still bitching about how they were persecuted back on FFL?
 

 Talk about your inadvertent irony... This was about The_Peak, of course, which 
(unlike The_Closet) admits just about anyone and is readable by nonmembers. 
There was a little complaining at first about how they were treated on FFL, but 
it quickly subsided and hasn't cropped up again.
 

 There are many other similar posts from Barry and his thugs bitching about 
The_Peak; this is just one small sample. They went after it for months on end.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So what are you laughing about on The Corner other than your bunch freaking 
out about us discussing you?
 
 On 09/10/2016 10:18 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   They've given us a lotta laughs too, the poor hopeless shmendriks.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the show.  
Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help him?  Nurse 
Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life just grand in the 
Funny Farm Lounge? :-D
 
 On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as 
Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.
 
 
 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... wrote :
 
 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
 
 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 09/10/2016 09:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

On 09/09/2016 10:28 PM, authfriend@... <mailto:authfriend@...> 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



I "got it," Bhairitu.



Nope, because


It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks TM is the
center of the universe.



I didn't say that every member of FFL thinks TM is the center of
the universe.

You implied it by dividing people into those who don't care about
TM and would therefore have no interest in FFL with the "small
group" who think TM is the center of the universe and therefore
presumably would have an interest in FFL. If that isn't what you
meant, it was sloppy writing.



*No, you still don't get it so let me break it down for you.

It the 1975 it was estimated that 40,000 people a month learned TM by 
1978 that had dropped to around 3000 a month.  So hundreds of thousands 
learned TM back in the 1970s.  Maybe it was over a million.  The TMO may 
be keeping those numbers proprietary though maybe Rick or someone else 
here knows for sure.


So I'm talking about out of all those thousands there are just a handful 
of people who are reading or subscribed to FFL (and some no longer read 
though subscribed).  Out of that we get a few zealots who know little 
about authentic Indian meditation and yoga and think TM is the end all 
be all.  Which it ain't. Sloppy writing my ass.  This isn't an English 
course.


Now put that in your chillum and smoke it.
*




That isn't even true of all the regular posters, let alone the
members of the larger membership.



So it's true of all or some of the "irregular" posters?  It's
obvious the larger membership doesn't think that TM is the center
of the universe.

The "irregular" posters are members of the larger membership,
obviously.



And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is
disagreeing with you that they "didn't get it." You do that
frequently, instead of addressing the disagreement (or just
agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat copout.


You certainly didn't "get it" as I indicated above. You went off
on a tangent.  Zombie Hillary been eating your brain again?

What the heck does Hillary have to do with this discussion
(speaking of tangents)? Are thoughts of Evil Hillary disrupting
your focus on the the conversation?






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

No, it's not a weird thing to say. It's the obvious but I don't
think you got it.

On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... <mailto:authfriend@...>
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


What a weird thing to say.

Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it
was just a bit of a relaxation technique and have little
interest in people still interested in TM or who used to be
interested. They could care less about a Yahoo Group like
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is
the center of the universe.

On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:


The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even
thousands by now: banned and shunned. Why else would anyone
want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, there is a
strange silence from the current campus student population.
Maybe they are scared.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.



*From:* ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
    <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently
none of the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM
Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been
banned from Dome, MUM campu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

So what are you laughing about on The Corner other than your bunch 
freaking out about us discussing you?


On 09/10/2016 10:18 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


They've given us a lotta laughs too, the poor hopeless shmendriks.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the 
show.  Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help 
him? Nurse Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life 
just grand in the Funny Farm Lounge? :-D


On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfriend@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same
person as Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.


I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting
his (mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing
what liars the other members are, especially about FFL history.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
  wrote :


You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker",
but I'm being "trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about
the banning and shunning on campus?

I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require.
At this point I have no idea what you are asking but that is
quite the catch phrase "banning and shunning". I like it. Now,
here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here is a tip: instead of
repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop questions
perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the
boys are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when
they're not preening themselves.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think
the giveaway is the inability not to keep repeating himself over
and over a if he hasn't heard what the other person has written.
I think that might be termed 'trollish' in the old vernacular.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make
that he's using concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi
dude.  A record!

Sal

On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@...
 [FairfieldLife]
> wrote:


last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
> wrote :


So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What
happened to Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the
banning and shunning - the guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for
your nap...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
,
> wrote :


So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of
the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was
actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned
from Dome, MUM campus, etc.

ananda_das_gupta >

So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And,
there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM
campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the
Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been
banned from the MUM campus, right?

So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there.
The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until
they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We
are all adults here, making our own decisions. There 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In my observation, most people use an alias on Web forums (including the 
Comments sections on blogs). It tends to cut down on spam and hijacking and 
other types of digital malfeasance. That's why I don't use my real name any 
more. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 There must be hundreds of people that have posted to FFL using an alias - for 
obvious reasons. Why is there such an interest in their identity? Hardly anyone 
seems to use their real name - except the moderators.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 What difference does it make? False pretenses
 

 False pretenses = pretending he is not Vox/etc. And BTW, we all know who 
Vox/etc. is. He didn't always use an alias.
 

 - almost everyone posting here is using an alias, yourself included.
 

 Everyone on FFL and FFL2 and The_Closet knows who I am (my real name) too. 
authfriend has always been my Yahoo ID (since long before FFL, before Yahoo 
Groups, in fact), but I didn't start blocking my real name and email address 
until fairly recently.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You may be right, but I'm dubious. Ananda's misinformation could only have 
come from the Closet folks, and they sure wouldn't allow Vox/yogi_ 
dude/anon_alias to join, nor would they take very long to recognize and ban him 
if he managed to join under false pretenses. Also, ananda is clearly a 
Barryfan, which Vox/etc. never has been (understatement!). Their styles (I use 
the term loosely) are vaguely similar, but their trolling approach--in 
particular their stated concerns--is quite different. Finally, Vox/etc. just 
isn't clever enough to pull off such an elaborate impersonation. 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 There must be hundreds of people that have posted to FFL using an alias - for 
obvious reasons. Why is there such an interest in their identity? Hardly anyone 
seems to use their real name - except the moderators.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

How was Burning Man??
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 
 My suggestion is to replace all of the top administrators at MUM and the TM 
Org and to stop the dome badge requirement - let people all meditate together, 
without prejudice or fear of banishment and shunning. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 ananda, do you have any suggestions for dealing with alleged banning, shunning 
and stalking?
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   

 There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once 
spent thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - 
now required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. 
 

 But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the 
TM Org turned into a cult.
 

 My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the 
same mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to 
mention the cyber stalking. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 What difference does it make? False pretenses - almost everyone posting here 
is using an alias, yourself included.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You may be right, but I'm dubious. Ananda's misinformation could only have 
come from the Closet folks, and they sure wouldn't allow Vox/yogi_ 
dude/anon_alias to join, nor would they take very long to recognize and ban him 
if he managed to join under false pretenses. Also, ananda is clearly a 
Barryfan, which Vox/etc. never has been (understatement!). Their styles (I use 
the term loosely) are vaguely similar, but their trolling approach--in 
particular their stated concerns--is quite different. Finally, Vox/etc. just 
isn't clever enough to pull off such an elaborate impersonation. 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 My suggestion is to replace all of the top administrators at MUM and the TM 
Org and to stop the dome badge requirement - let people all meditate together, 
without prejudice or fear of banishment and shunning. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 ananda, do you have any suggestions for dealing with alleged banning, shunning 
and stalking?
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   

 There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once 
spent thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - 
now required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. 
 

 But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the 
TM Org turned into a cult.
 

 My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the 
same mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to 
mention the cyber stalking. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[feste37]

Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 Laughter is the best medicine, so they say.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Laughter very good for releasing endorphins so yay! (-: From: "Bhairitu 
noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   
 We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the show.  
Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help him?  Nurse 
Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life just grand in the 
Funny Farm Lounge? :-D
 
 On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as 
Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.
 
 
 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<salsunshineiniowa@...> mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... wrote :
 
 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 
 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 
 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 
 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

Thanks for the hug. The "banning and shunning" refers to the "dispossessed" 
mentioned by Doug. Obviously there's a caste system in the TM Org, which 
probably comes from the social background of the founder himself - nobody is 
perfect. It's just surprising to see it in the USA.  

 In India there are whole classes of people that get banned and shunned - 
millions of people, due to their birth circumstances. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

They've given us a lotta laughs too, the poor hopeless shmendriks. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the show.  
Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help him?  Nurse 
Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life just grand in the 
Funny Farm Lounge? :-D
 
 On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as 
Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.
 
 
 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... wrote :
 
 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
 
 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You may be right, but I'm dubious. Ananda's misinformation could only have come 
from the Closet folks, and they sure wouldn't allow Vox/yogi_ dude/anon_alias 
to join, nor would they take very long to recognize and ban him if he managed 
to join under false pretenses. Also, ananda is clearly a Barryfan, which 
Vox/etc. never has been (understatement!). Their styles (I use the term 
loosely) are vaguely similar, but their trolling approach--in particular their 
stated concerns--is quite different. Finally, Vox/etc. just isn't clever enough 
to pull off such an elaborate impersonation. 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Laughter very good for releasing endorphins so yay! (-:


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
 We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the show. 
 Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help him?  Nurse 
Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life just grand in the 
Funny Farm Lounge? :-D
 
 On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as 
Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 
  I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history. 
  
  
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 
 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus? 
  I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are  asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not  preening 
themselves. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep  repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 
  Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record! 
  Sal 
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  
 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 
 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What  happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy  who started this thread?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
 
 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time  for your nap...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 
 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome?  Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the  TM Org. One was actually banned, 
right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
 
   Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
 campus, etc. 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>    
  So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are  no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a  matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right? 
  So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The  ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got  called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults  here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims.  Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it 
by choice, without any  prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate  
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh?  Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and  harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your  fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are  a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could  be a site about *shoes* and the 
same rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yaho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

We're getting a great laugh at this over on The Corner.  Keep up the 
show.  Oh, Ollie needs some help with his jigsaw puzzle.  Can you help 
him? Nurse Rachet will be along in awhile with your meds.  Ain't life 
just grand in the Funny Farm Lounge? :-D


On 09/10/2016 08:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same 
person as Vox and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however.



I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars 
the other members are, especially about FFL history.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm 
being "trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and 
shunning on campus?


I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At 
this point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the 
catch phrase "banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your 
virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here is a tip: instead of repeating yourself 
asking rhetorical and endless loop questions perhaps you should check 
out "The Water Closet" over where the boys are conglomerating. They 
love repetition over there when they're not preening themselves.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the 
giveaway is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over 
a if he hasn't heard what the other person has written. I think that 
might be termed 'trollish' in the old vernacular.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that 
he's using concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A 
record!


Sal

On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@...
 [FairfieldLife]
> wrote:


last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, > wrote :



So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What 
happened to Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the 
banning and shunning - the guy who started this thread?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
,  wrote :


Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your 
nap...


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, > wrote :



So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the 
FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually 
banned, right?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
,  wrote :


Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from 
Dome, MUM campus, etc.


ananda_das_gupta >


So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there 
are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a 
matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would 
suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM 
campus, right?


So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
,  wrote :


FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The 
ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got 
called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults 
here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who 
have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any 
prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, 
live and learn.


So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, 
huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed 
after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy 
doesn't hold up.


There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a 
few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto 
others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a 
site about *shoes* and the same rules apply.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
, > wrote :


One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo 
Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

ananda, do you have any suggestions for dealing with alleged banning, shunning 
and stalking?


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    
There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once spent 
thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - now 
required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. 
But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the 
TM Org turned into a cult.
My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the same 
mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to mention the 
cyber stalking. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Plus all the thousands who learned TMyears ago, thought it was just a bit of a 
relaxation technique andhave little interest in people still interested in TM 
or who usedto be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group 
likethis.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is thecenter of 
the universe.


 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:


  The disaffected is probably inthe hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned.Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group likethus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the currentcampus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there morethan one FFL moderator? Right.


  From:ananda_das_gupta<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
So, how many havebeen banned from the Dome?Apparently none of the FFLmoderators 
are in good standingwith the TM Org. One was actuallybanned, right?

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong!I was an active poster toFFL and have not beenbanned from Dome, 
MUMcampus, etc.
ananda_das_gupta<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
So,you calledthem on their"shit" and youare an adult.And, there areno 
victimsfrom banningand shunningat the MUMcampus. It's amatter ofpersonalchoice, 
to getbanned fromthe Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting toFFL has 
beenbanned fromthe MUMcampus, right?
So,why is Doug,the moderator,so upset? 

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2is very muchactive, if youcare to joinand postthere. Theones whocaused so 
muchtrouble herewent to FFL2,until they gotcalled ontheir shit,and 
madetracks,willingly. Weare all adultshere, makingour owndecisions.There 
aren'tany victims.Those who havechosen toexcludethemselves didit by 
choice,without anyprompting. Asfor thosebooted fromFFL forinadequatesocial 
skills,live andlearn. 

So, howz aboutsome of that"controversialspirituality"from you, huh?Let's see 
howmuch you arebanned,shunned,stalked andharassed aftersharingit...but Iwon't 
beholding mybreath. Yourfantasydoesn't holdup. 

There aremostly thosewho get alongin the world,and there area few fuckups. The 
fuckupsunfortunatelyleak theirgarbage ontoothers, andfor thatreason are 
notwelcome here.Get it? Couldbe a siteabout *shoes*and the samerules apply.

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Oneof the otherFFL moderatorscreated a"free speech"zone on YahooGroups, but, it 
looks like they were shut down bycyberstalkers,following themaround on 
theinternet.
Kickedout of theDome andbanned fromcampus -shunned.Banned fromFFL andstalked. 
Thisjust doesn'tappear to bemuch of aspiritualgroup. Nowthat's ironic!
---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL andDoug aren'tlike TheCorner wherethere is abouncer at 
thedoor with aprepared listof those whocan't even getin the room.Talk 
aboutcensorship andlack of freespeech. Inaddition, youcan't evenread 
anythingthere unlessyou are on thelist ofapprovedindividuals.And the guywho 
startedthat forum andthose who arein attendancewere the onesgiving Doug ahard 
timeabout the lackof free speechat FFL. Tooironic to bebelieved.Luckily, sinceI 
knoweveryone overthere and haveheard whatthey have tosay about ahundred 
timesI'm notremotelyinterested ingettingadmitted. Somethings justdon't 
getbetter withage.


---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

InDoug'sdefense, notone person has*ever* beenbanned fromFFL for notmeeting 
hisdefinition of"spiritual".

The reason afew werebanned, isthat theylacked basicsocial skills,and were 
moreinterested inbeing a painin the ass,vs.contributinganything ofsubstance. 
Hadnothing to dowith content,and everythingto do with notplaying wellwith 
others,due toimmaturity, alack ofmanners, andnoself-discipline.

Perhaps youcould quitmaking shitup? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 On 09/09/2016 10:28 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   I "got it," Bhairitu. 

 
 Nope, because
 It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks TM is the center of the 
universe.



 
 I didn't say that every member of FFL thinks TM is the center of the universe. 
You implied it by dividing people into those who don't care about TM and would 
therefore have no interest in FFL with the "small group" who think TM is the 
center of the universe and therefore presumably would have an interest in FFL. 
If that isn't what you meant, it was sloppy writing. 
 That isn't even true of all the regular posters, let alone the members of the 
larger membership.




 
 So it's true of all or some of the "irregular" posters?  It's obvious the 
larger membership doesn't think that TM is the center of the universe. The 
"irregular" posters are members of the larger membership, obviously. 
 And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is disagreeing 
with you that they "didn't get it." You do that frequently, instead of 
addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat 
copout.



 
 You certainly didn't "get it" as I indicated above. You went off on a tangent. 
 Zombie Hillary been eating your brain again? What the heck does Hillary have 
to do with this discussion (speaking of tangents)? Are thoughts of Evil Hillary 
disrupting your focus on the the conversation?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 No, it's not a weird thing to say.  It's the obvious but I don't think you got 
it. 
 
 On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   What a weird thing to say.
 
 
 Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 09/09/2016 10:28 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I "got it," Bhairitu.



Nope, because


It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks TM is the 
center of the universe.




I didn't say that every member of FFL thinks TM is the center of the 
universe.


That isn't even true of all the regular posters, let alone the members 
of the larger membership.




So it's true of all or some of the "irregular" posters?  It's obvious 
the larger membership doesn't think that TM is the center of the universe.




And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is 
disagreeing with you that they "didn't get it." You do that 
frequently, instead of addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing 
to disagree). It's a big fat copout.


You certainly didn't "get it" as I indicated above. You went off on a 
tangent.  Zombie Hillary been eating your brain again?






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

No, it's not a weird thing to say. It's the obvious but I don't think 
you got it.


On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... <mailto:authfriend@...> 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



What a weird thing to say.

Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :

Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was
just a bit of a relaxation technique and have little interest in
people still interested in TM or who used to be interested.  They
could care less about a Yahoo Group like this.  But there is a
small group who still think that TM is the center of the universe.

On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:


The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by
now: banned and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe
to a group like thus? But, there is a strange silence from the
current campus student population. Maybe they are scared.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.



*From:* ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of
the FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was
actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...>
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned
from Dome, MUM campus, etc.

ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>

So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And,
there are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM
campus. It's a matter of personal choice, to get banned from the
Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been
banned from the MUM campus, right?

So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <olliesedwuz@...>
<mailto:olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there.
The ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until
they got called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We
are all adults here, making our own decisions. There aren't any
victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for
inadequate social skills, live and learn.

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from
you, huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked
and harassed after sharing it...but I won't be holding my
breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up.

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are
a few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage
onto others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it?
Could be a site about *shoes* and the same rules apply.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>,
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on
Yahoo Groups, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[feste37]

My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I've never done this. (I might point out, however, that you seem to have done 
your own stalking from one group to another.) 

 Next question?
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 
 
 What is weird is to ban members from the group and then to stalk them over to 
another group. Have you done this often?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 I "got it," Bhairitu. It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks 
TM is the center of the universe. That isn't even true of all the regular 
posters, let alone the members of the larger membership. 

 And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is disagreeing 
with you that they "didn't get it." You do that frequently, instead of 
addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat 
copout.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 No, it's not a weird thing to say.  It's the obvious but I don't think you got 
it. 
 
 On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   What a weird thing to say.
 
 
 Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 We

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, there are almost 1,600 members of FFL. Among them may well be a number of 
current MUM students who read the traffic but don't post. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 
 Apparently there are no current students posting here and only about five 
regular contributors.
 

 Depends on your definition of "regular," don'tcha know. The last Post Count 
showed 22 posters. Of those, only two are rare posters.
 

 What happened?
 

 The number of "regular" posters has always waxed and waned.
 

 The group seems to be composed of people that all got kicked out, in one form 
or another, from the TM Org.
 

 Wrong-o. Some are, some aren't.
 

 But, the moderator seems t be making some status claims trying to sell TM.
 

 And so...what? He's in favor of TM and doesn't like the way the TMO has been 
run. Most of us don't like the way the TMO has been run, even those who are 
gung-ho on the techniques. BTW, it's not clear what you mean by "status claims" 
in this context.
 

 I'm simply pointing out that the individual members may not even realize the 
extent of the banning and shunning on the campus and on the FFL group.
 

 What a peculiar statement! You've been told by several members about the 
extent of banning on this group: only a few have been banned (five or six, I 
believe), all some time ago. And we've been hearing from Doug, in particular, 
for *years* about the banning and shunning on campus, as well as from others.
 

 "Shunning" doesn't make much sense in the context of this group. I asked you 
before, but you didn't answer. What would "shunning" look like if it took place 
on FFL?
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange 
silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For 
example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here?
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   
 The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual gr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 
 Are you a FFL moderator?
 

 No. Why do you ask?
 

 What is your position concerning the banning and shunning at MUM, the TM Org 
and FFL?
 

 Since I am not associated with MUM or the TMO and don't live in Fairfield (as 
I've already told you), I don't take a "position" on banning and shunning 
there. I approve of the banning that has taken place on FFL. And as I've 
already said twice now, I don't know what "shunning" could mean in the context 
of FFL.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 I "got it," Bhairitu. It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks 
TM is the center of the universe. That isn't even true of all the regular 
posters, let alone the members of the larger membership. 

 And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is disagreeing 
with you that they "didn't get it." You do that frequently, instead of 
addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat 
copout.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 No, it's not a weird thing to say.  It's the obvious but I don't think you got 
it. 
 
 On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   What a weird thing to say.
 
 
 Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This ju

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 
 Apparently there are no current students posting here and only about five 
regular contributors.
 

 Depends on your definition of "regular," don'tcha know. The last Post Count 
showed 22 posters. Of those, only two are rare posters.
 

 What happened?
 

 The number of "regular" posters has always waxed and waned.
 

 The group seems to be composed of people that all got kicked out, in one form 
or another, from the TM Org.
 

 Wrong-o. Some are, some aren't.
 

 But, the moderator seems t be making some status claims trying to sell TM.
 

 And so...what? He's in favor of TM and doesn't like the way the TMO has been 
run. Most of us don't like the way the TMO has been run, even those who are 
gung-ho on the techniques. BTW, it's not clear what you mean by "status claims" 
in this context.
 

 I'm simply pointing out that the individual members may not even realize the 
extent of the banning and shunning on the campus and on the FFL group.
 

 What a peculiar statement! You've been told by several members about the 
extent of banning on this group: only a few have been banned (five or six, I 
believe), all some time ago. And we've been hearing from Doug, in particular, 
for *years* about the banning and shunning on campus, as well as from others.
 

 "Shunning" doesn't make much sense in the context of this group. I asked you 
before, but you didn't answer. What would "shunning" look like if it took place 
on FFL?
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange 
silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For 
example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here?
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   
 The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared lis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

ananda, many things have happened. One would have to spend a lot of time 
investigating and looking at archives, etc. To what end? But if it gets your 
juices flowing, I'd say go for it.
 As for alleged banning and shunning, I think a healthy place to start is to 
look at one's own life and see what one is banning and shunning, avoiding etc. 
Just my opinion.


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    
Apparently there are no current students posting here and only about five 
regular contributors. 
What happened?
The group seems to be composed of people that all got kicked out, in one form 
or another, from the TM Org. But, the moderator seems t be making some status 
claims trying to sell TM.
I'm simply pointing out that the individual members may not even realize the 
extent of the banning and shunning on the campus and on the FFL group. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange 
silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For 
example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here?


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet.
Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedw

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Unmistakably. He changes his look and feel, but the syntax, the endless 
questions and general nonsensical nature are like a fingerprint. Latest news is 
that Texas may actually go for Hillary this time, and it is probably stressing 
him out.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!

Sal 
 


 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

ananda, I think, but am not 100% sure, that one can get banned for revealing 
the identity of someone who chooses to remain anonymous. I completely support 
this policy. Also, I tend to think that more transparency = more spiritual, 
mental and emotion health. Probably physical too. 


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    Yes, I can understand, considering the banning and shunning, why anyone 
would want to post to FFL anonymously using an alias. What are the rules 
concerning revealing a member's identity?  Thanks for the information. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote :

Back in the olden days, when posting limits ruled the land, there was a strict 
rule about using only one identity to post. But, with the posting limits gone, 
and me not giving much of a firetruck what goes on around here, I'm content to 
let it slide. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


Doug, the moderator, has apparently used numerous aliases. Is it against the 
rules to post anonymously to FFL? If so, you just set yourself up for at least 
a reprimand. Are you banned from the MUM campus? If so, for what reason?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :

Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!

Sal 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[srijau]

yes there was definitely some overblown rhetoric and know nothing know it all 
ism there as there is no strange silence on the part of the student community, 
there was in fact a very public petition by a significant minority of students 
some months back that is likely a reason or big contributing factor for the 
recent management change..
however I do agree that banning people like David  Hawthorne has been 
arbitrary, unfair, destructive to the movement as a whole,very unnecessarily 
damaging to group coherence program numbers as others are also demotivated to 
participate.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange 
silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For 
example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here?
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   
 The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

Yes, I can understand, considering the banning and shunning, why anyone would 
want to post to FFL anonymously using an alias. What are the rules concerning 
revealing a member's identity?   Thanks for the information. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Back in the olden days, when posting limits ruled the land, there was a strict 
rule about using only one identity to post. But, with the posting limits gone, 
and me not giving much of a firetruck what goes on around here, I'm content to 
let it slide. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Doug, the moderator, has apparently used numerous aliases. Is it against the 
rules to post anonymously to FFL? If so, you just set yourself up for at least 
a reprimand. Are you banned from the MUM campus? If so, for what reason?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!

Sal 

 













 







  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 What is weird is to ban members from the group and then to stalk them over to 
another group. Have you done this often?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 I "got it," Bhairitu. It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks 
TM is the center of the universe. That isn't even true of all the regular 
posters, let alone the members of the larger membership. 

 And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is disagreeing 
with you that they "didn't get it." You do that frequently, instead of 
addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat 
copout.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 No, it's not a weird thing to say.  It's the obvious but I don't think you got 
it. 
 
 On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   What a weird thing to say.
 
 
 Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Back in the olden days, when posting limits ruled the land, there was a strict 
rule about using only one identity to post. But, with the posting limits gone, 
and me not giving much of a firetruck what goes on around here, I'm content to 
let it slide. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Doug, the moderator, has apparently used numerous aliases. Is it against the 
rules to post anonymously to FFL? If so, you just set yourself up for at least 
a reprimand. Are you banned from the MUM campus? If so, for what reason?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!

Sal 

 













 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 There must be thousands of disaffected TM Teachers out there, having once 
spent thousands of dollars and years of service to become certified teachers - 
now required to be "re-certified" in order to teach. 
 

 But, the banning from the domes just seems so radical that it sounds like the 
TM Org turned into a cult.
 

 My point is that most of the current FFL members seem to be displaying the 
same mentality - banning and shunning other members of the group. Not to 
mention the cyber stalking. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 Doug, the moderator, has apparently used numerous aliases. Is it against the 
rules to post anonymously to FFL? If so, you just set yourself up for at least 
a reprimand. Are you banned from the MUM campus? If so, for what reason?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!

Sal 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 Are you a FFL moderator? What is your position concerning the banning and 
shunning at MUM, the TM Org and FFL?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 I "got it," Bhairitu. It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks 
TM is the center of the universe. That isn't even true of all the regular 
posters, let alone the members of the larger membership. 

 And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is disagreeing 
with you that they "didn't get it." You do that frequently, instead of 
addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat 
copout.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 No, it's not a weird thing to say.  It's the obvious but I don't think you got 
it. 
 
 On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   What a weird thing to say.
 
 
 Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anythi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 You sound prejudiced. How did you manage to remain in the group when you're 
obviously violating the guidelines and rules?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 They don't they have a free speech zone on campus?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have no religious views and I was banned for being a free thinker. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You were banned for your religious views or for being a thug?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was banned from not only the Dome but the whole campus. Do I win?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There seem to be a lot of "thugs" at MUM and on FFL and banning and shunning. 
Has anyone still posting here been banned from the Dome?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 No, first the thugs ran over to FFL2 once it had been opened, and they held 
forth there for quite a while until, as Ollie said, they got called on their 
shit by the nonthug members. The ringleader just stopped posting after an 
especially embarrassing fiasco, and then one of his minions opened The_Closet, 
whereupon the rest of the thugs left FF2 and, along with the ringleader, showed 
up over there. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 Apparently there are no current students posting here and only about five 
regular contributors. 
 

 What happened?
 

 The group seems to be composed of people that all got kicked out, in one form 
or another, from the TM Org. But, the moderator seems t be making some status 
claims trying to sell TM.
 

 I'm simply pointing out that the individual members may not even realize the 
extent of the banning and shunning on the campus and on the FFL group. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange 
silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For 
example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here?
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
 
 
   
 The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.


 


 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

ananda, it's unclear what you mean when you write "...there is a strange 
silence from the current campus student population." Can you clarify? For 
example, do you mean that there are no or few students posting here?


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: 
banned and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like 
thus? But, there is a strange silence from the current campus student 
population. Maybe they are scared.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet.
Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to enforce 
guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I "got it," Bhairitu. It's just weird to say that every member of FFL thinks TM 
is the center of the universe. That isn't even true of all the regular posters, 
let alone the members of the larger membership. 

 And BTW, it's an extremely weak comeback to tell someone who is disagreeing 
with you that they "didn't get it." You do that frequently, instead of 
addressing the disagreement (or just agreeing to disagree). It's a big fat 
copout.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 No, it's not a weird thing to say.  It's the obvious but I don't think you got 
it. 
 
 On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   What a weird thing to say.
 
 
 Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!

Sal 


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> 
> So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
> Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
> guy who started this thread?
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> 
> So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
> moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, 
> right?
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
> campus, etc.
> 
> ananda_das_gupta  
> 
> So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
> victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of 
> personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone 
> posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
> 
> So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
> caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their 
> shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own 
> decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude 
> themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from 
> FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn. 
> 
> So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
> see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
> it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
> 
> There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
> ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
> reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the 
> same rules apply.
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
> but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them 
> around on the internet.
> 
> Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
> stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
> ironic!
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer 
> at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. 
> Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even 
> read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And 
> the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones 
> giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to 
> be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what 
> they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
> admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
> meeting his definition of "spiritual".
> 
> The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and 
> were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
> substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
> playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
> self-discipline.
> 
> Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
> is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
> your definition of spiritual.
> 
> You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
> enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales 
> force."
> 
> Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
> 
> What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
> 
> Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
> 
> Did you graduate 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You were banned for your religious views or for being a thug?
 

 I have no religious views and I was banned for being a free thinker.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was banned from not only the Dome but the whole campus. Do I win?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There seem to be a lot of "thugs" at MUM and on FFL and banning and shunning. 
Has anyone still posting here been banned from the Dome?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 No, first the thugs ran over to FFL2 once it had been opened, and they held 
forth there for quite a while until, as Ollie said, they got called on their 
shit by the nonthug members. The ringleader just stopped posting after an 
especially embarrassing fiasco, and then one of his minions opened The_Closet, 
whereupon the rest of the thugs left FF2 and, along with the ringleader, showed 
up over there. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

No, it's not a weird thing to say. It's the obvious but I don't think 
you got it.


On 09/09/2016 08:32 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

What a weird thing to say.

Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a 
bit of a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still 
interested in TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less 
about a Yahoo Group like this.  But there is a small group who still 
think that TM is the center of the universe.


On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:

The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: 
banned and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a 
group like thus? But, there is a strange silence from the current 
campus student population. Maybe they are scared.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...> 
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :


Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.



*From:* ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the 
FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually 
banned, right?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <sharelong60@...> 
<mailto:sharelong60@...> wrote :


Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from 
Dome, MUM campus, etc.


ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>


So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there 
are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a 
matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would 
suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM 
campus, right?


So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <olliesedwuz@...> 
<mailto:olliesedwuz@...> wrote :


FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The 
ones who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got 
called on their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults 
here, making our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who 
have chosen to exclude themselves did it by choice, without any 
prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, 
live and learn.


So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, 
huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed 
after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy 
doesn't hold up.


There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a 
few fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto 
others, and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a 
site about *shoes* and the same rules apply.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo 
Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, 
following them around on the internet.


Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from 
FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual 
group. Now that's ironic!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <awoelflebater@...> 
<mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :


Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a 
bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get 
in the room. Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In 
addition, you can't even read anything there unless you are on the 
list of approved individuals. And the guy who started that forum and 
those who are in attendance were the ones giving Doug a hard time 
about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be believed. 
Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in 
getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <olliesedwuz@...> 
<mailto:olliesedwuz@...> wrote :


In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for 
not meeting h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What a weird thing to say.
 

Right, a small group of around 1,600, including yourself. 

 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a bit of 
a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still interested in 
TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less about a Yahoo Group like 
this.  But there is a small group who still think that TM is the center of the 
universe.
 
 On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
 
   The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 
 

 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<sharelong60@...> mailto:sharelong60@... wrote :
 
 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 
 
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 
 
 So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 
 
 There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
 
 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote :
 
 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".
 
 The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and 
were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Plus all the thousands who learned TM years ago, thought it was just a 
bit of a relaxation technique and have little interest in people still 
interested in TM or who used to be interested.  They could care less 
about a Yahoo Group like this.  But there is a small group who still 
think that TM is the center of the universe.


On 09/09/2016 05:51 PM, ananda_das_gupta wrote:
The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: 
banned and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group 
like thus? But, there is a strange silence from the current campus 
student population. Maybe they are scared.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.



*From:* ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the 
FFL moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually 
banned, right?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from 
Dome, MUM campus, etc.


ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>

So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there 
are no victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a 
matter of personal choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would 
suppose that everyone posting to FFL has been banned from the MUM 
campus, right?


So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones 
who caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on 
their shit, and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making 
our own decisions. There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to 
exclude themselves did it by choice, without any prompting. As for 
those booted from FFL for inadequate social skills, live and learn.


So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, 
huh? Let's see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed 
after sharing it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy 
doesn't hold up.


There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few 
fuck ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, 
and for that reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site 
about *shoes* and the same rules apply.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo 
Groups, but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, 
following them around on the internet.


Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from 
FFL and stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual 
group. Now that's ironic!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a 
bouncer at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get 
in the room. Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In 
addition, you can't even read anything there unless you are on the 
list of approved individuals. And the guy who started that forum and 
those who are in attendance were the ones giving Doug a hard time 
about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be believed. 
Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in 
getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for 
not meeting his definition of "spiritual".


The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, 
and were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing 
anything of substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything 
to do with not playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of 
manners, and no self-discipline.


Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

What you may not realize is that the way you're running this 
discussion forum is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning 
people that don't meet your definition of spiritual.


You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator 
to enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a 
sales force."


Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.

What is yo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Probably.  Remember MJ's parting salvo?  "Thanks to Alex for creating this 
group - too bad it didn't last very long."

Nice parting shot.

Sal 


> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:36 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> No, it doesn't look like that, and that's not what happened. Where on earth 
> did you get that hallucinatory notion? Is that what they're claiming over on 
> The_Closet now?
> 
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
> but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them 
> around on the internet.
> 
> Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
> stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
> ironic!
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer 
> at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. 
> Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even 
> read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And 
> the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones 
> giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to 
> be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what 
> they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
> admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
> meeting his definition of "spiritual".
> 
> The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and 
> were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
> substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
> playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
> self-discipline.
> 
> Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
> is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
> your definition of spiritual.
> 
> You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
> enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales 
> force."
> 
> Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
> 
> What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
> 
> Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
> 
> Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
> 
> Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here. 
>  
> 
> It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
> ‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
> is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
> readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from 
> David Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to 
> Fairfield to be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed 
> by the movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community 
> here.  
> 
> Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
> Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  
> 
> It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
> the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
> guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a 
> group meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary 
> retributive tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales 
> force of the re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal 
> departments for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  
> 
> It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice 
> of jyotish. 
> 
> -JaiGuruYou
> 
> 
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:30 AM, ananda_das_gupta  wrote:
> 
> 
> So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner,

Yes, with my amazing detective skills, I "tracked them down."  It required much 
critical thought and hours of effort, especially after they made the 
announcement they were going to go there.  And then they went.  Bon voyage!

> just like MUM when they want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy 
> and report back on people at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how 
> similar you are to the TM Org. 

OMG I give up.  Anybody want to take a gander on who this doofus is?

> Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)
> 
> Sal 
>> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>> 
>> In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
>> meeting his definition of "spiritual".
>> 
>> The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and 
>> were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything 
>> of substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
>> playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
>> self-discipline.
>> 
>> Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
>> 
>> Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer 
>> at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. 
>> Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even 
>> read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And 
>> the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones 
>> giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to 
>> be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what 
>> they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in 
>> getting admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
>> 
>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>> 
>> What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion 
>> forum is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that 
>> don't meet your definition of spiritual.
>> 
>> You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
>> enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales 
>> force."
>> 
>> Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
>> 
>> What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
>> 
>> Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
>> 
>> Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
>> 
>> Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
>> 
>> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>> 
>> This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on 
>> here.  
>> 
>> It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
>> ‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  
>> Fairfield is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and 
>> giving readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology 
>> from David Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to 
>> Fairfield to be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and 
>> screwed by the movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the 
>> community here.  
>> 
>> Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
>> Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  
>> 
>> It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry 
>> against the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome 
>> badge guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run 
>> a group meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary 
>> retributive tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales 
>> force of the re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or 
>> legal departments for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the 
>> movement.  
>> 
>> It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice 
>> of jyotish. 
>> 
>> -JaiGuruYou
> 
> 
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?
 

 He'll be back, don't worry. As I explained to you already, he visits at 
intervals as his time permits and posts in spurts, like most of us.
 

 Doug is the owner of the group, by the way, as well as the moderator.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

You were banned for your religious views or for being a thug?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was banned from not only the Dome but the whole campus. Do I win?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There seem to be a lot of "thugs" at MUM and on FFL and banning and shunning. 
Has anyone still posting here been banned from the Dome?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 No, first the thugs ran over to FFL2 once it had been opened, and they held 
forth there for quite a while until, as Ollie said, they got called on their 
shit by the nonthug members. The ringleader just stopped posting after an 
especially embarrassing fiasco, and then one of his minions opened The_Closet, 
whereupon the rest of the thugs left FF2 and, along with the ringleader, showed 
up over there. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

The disaffected is probably in the hundreds or even thousands by now: banned 
and shunned. Why else would anyone want to subscribe to a group like thus? But, 
there is a strange silence from the current campus student population. Maybe 
they are scared.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.
 
 


 From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed. 
 

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Don't know. Is there more than one FFL moderator? Right.


  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    
So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet.
Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to enforce 
guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  
It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Right! Very good. That's why I haven't spoken to any of those issues. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you can't speak to the banning and shunning at MUM and in Fairfield. Or, 
teaching TM, or re-certification. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Even crazy people don't get banned from FFL as long as they can keep a civil 
tongue  in their head. I'll probably get in trouble for calling you crazy, in 
fact. But boy, the tall tales you've been posting are pretty nutty. 

 I'm not a TM teacher, recertified or otherwise (or a MUM student, or a 
Fairfield resident), just a TMer.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Do "crazy" people get banned from the FFL group like they do at MUM? That 
sounds pretty strange to me. Are you a "re-certified" TM Teacher?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you can't speak to the banning and shunning at MUM and in Fairfield. Or, 
teaching TM, or re-certification. 
 

 I can but it's a boring subject and long past its "sell by" date. Sounds like 
you're bored.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Even crazy people don't get banned from FFL as long as they can keep a civil 
tongue  in their head. I'll probably get in trouble for calling you crazy, in 
fact. But boy, the tall tales you've been posting are pretty nutty. 

 I'm not a TM teacher, recertified or otherwise (or a MUM student, or a 
Fairfield resident), just a TMer.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Do "crazy" people get banned from the FFL group like they do at MUM? That 
sounds pretty strange to me. Are you a "re-certified" TM Teacher?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 There seem to be a lot of "thugs" at MUM and on FFL and banning and shunning. 
Has anyone still posting here been banned from the Dome?
 

 I was banned from not only the Dome but the whole campus. Do I win?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, first the thugs ran over to FFL2 once it had been opened, and they held 
forth there for quite a while until, as Ollie said, they got called on their 
shit by the nonthug members. The ringleader just stopped posting after an 
especially embarrassing fiasco, and then one of his minions opened The_Closet, 
whereupon the rest of the thugs left FF2 and, along with the ringleader, showed 
up over there. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, you can't speak to the banning and shunning at MUM and in Fairfield. Or, 
teaching TM, or re-certification. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Even crazy people don't get banned from FFL as long as they can keep a civil 
tongue  in their head. I'll probably get in trouble for calling you crazy, in 
fact. But boy, the tall tales you've been posting are pretty nutty. 

 I'm not a TM teacher, recertified or otherwise (or a MUM student, or a 
Fairfield resident), just a TMer.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Do "crazy" people get banned from the FFL group like they do at MUM? That 
sounds pretty strange to me. Are you a "re-certified" TM Teacher?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 
 

 Well, in my case I went to California and then moved to Canada. I don't know 
what anyone else did. Why anyone would want to live in FF let alone go to the 
Dome or follow Jyotish is beyond me but that is beside the point.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Actually, the rules in question are the Yahoo Groups guidelines, formulated by, 
you know, Yahoo, not the FFL moderator. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, all the "thugs" got banned from FFL because they broke the rules, just 
like people that believe in astrology got banned from the Dome. So, Doug, the 
moderator, is bitching about it, as if he was the one that got banned for not 
following the rules in the Dome, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 uh...their rooms?? Basically MUM works like any other organization. Its like 
the guys at GM not being really stoked if someone working there drives a Ford 
to work. Comprende? If you don't want to do the TM program, then by all means 
do another. But don't break the rules and then bitch about it. It isn't your 
organization or your decision. As for the spying and the rest, that is a great 
demo of a low state of consciousness.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you're going to shoot the messenger and throw me under the bus for asking 
about the banning and the shunning? The moderator seems to have lost his voice. 
Why all the banning and shunning on FFL and at MUM?
 

 I think Ollie suggested you catch a bus not throw yourself under one.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, I didn't call them on their "shit". I don't post on FFL2. I don't live in 
Fairfield either, and was restricting my comments to this forum. Don't you have 
a bus to catch or something?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you're going to shoot the messenger and throw me under the bus
 

 He said "catch the bus." Can't catch it very well if you've been thrown under 
it, can you?
 

 Messengers who bear false messages deserve to be shot. It looks like you've 
been brainwashed by the thugs on The_Corner, so in a sense the false messages 
you've been posting aren't really your fault. But you might have tried checking 
up to see whether you were being told the truth before coming over here and 
blasting us without knowing what you were talking about.
 

 for asking about the banning and the shunning? The moderator seems to have 
lost his voice. Why all the banning and shunning on FFL and at MUM?
 

 It's already been explained to you why a few were banned from FFL, but there 
hasn't been any banning here for quite some time. It's not clear what 
"shunning" might involve in the context of an Internet forum. Perhaps you'd 
care to tell us what you think it means?
 

 The moderator doesn't post here 24/7. Like most of us, he visits at intervals 
and posts in spurts. I'm sure we'll hear from him again fairly soon.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, I didn't call them on their "shit". I don't post on FFL2. I don't live in 
Fairfield either, and was restricting my comments to this forum. Don't you have 
a bus to catch or something?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 There seem to be a lot of "thugs" at MUM and on FFL and banning and shunning. 
Has anyone still posting here been banned from the Dome?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, first the thugs ran over to FFL2 once it had been opened, and they held 
forth there for quite a while until, as Ollie said, they got called on their 
shit by the nonthug members. The ringleader just stopped posting after an 
especially embarrassing fiasco, and then one of his minions opened The_Closet, 
whereupon the rest of the thugs left FF2 and, along with the ringleader, showed 
up over there. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, all the "thugs" got banned from FFL because they broke the rules, just 
like people that believe in astrology got banned from the Dome. So, Doug, the 
moderator, is bitching about it, as if he was the one that got banned for not 
following the rules in the Dome, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 uh...their rooms?? Basically MUM works like any other organization. Its like 
the guys at GM not being really stoked if someone working there drives a Ford 
to work. Comprende? If you don't want to do the TM program, then by all means 
do another. But don't break the rules and then bitch about it. It isn't your 
organization or your decision. As for the spying and the rest, that is a great 
demo of a low state of consciousness.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, first the thugs ran over to FFL2 once it had been opened, and they held 
forth there for quite a while until, as Ollie said, they got called on their 
shit by the nonthug members. The ringleader just stopped posting after an 
especially embarrassing fiasco, and then one of his minions opened The_Closet, 
whereupon the rest of the thugs left FF2 and, along with the ringleader, showed 
up over there. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, you're going to shoot the messenger and throw me under the bus for asking 
about the banning and the shunning? The moderator seems to have lost his voice. 
Why all the banning and shunning on FFL and at MUM?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, I didn't call them on their "shit". I don't post on FFL2. I don't live in 
Fairfield either, and was restricting my comments to this forum. Don't you have 
a bus to catch or something?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

uh...their rooms?? Basically MUM works like any other organization. Its like 
the guys at GM not being really stoked if someone working there drives a Ford 
to work. Comprende? If you don't want to do the TM program, then by all means 
do another. But don't break the rules and then bitch about it. It isn't your 
organization or your decision. As for the spying and the rest, that is a great 
demo of a low state of consciousness.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.

  From: ananda_das_gupta <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:50 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.
   
    
So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet.
Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to enforce 
guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  
It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  
Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  Everyone 
at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  
It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, the "thugs" got banned from FFL and so they ran over to The Corner, but 
where do the meditators in Fairfield go when they've been banned from the 
campus? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, I didn't call them on their "shit". I don't post on FFL2. I don't live in 
Fairfield either, and was restricting my comments to this forum. Don't you have 
a bus to catch or something?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Even crazy people don't get banned from FFL as long as they can keep a civil 
tongue  in their head. I'll probably get in trouble for calling you crazy, in 
fact. But boy, the tall tales you've been posting are pretty nutty. 

 I'm not a TM teacher, recertified or otherwise (or a MUM student, or a 
Fairfield resident), just a TMer.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Do "crazy" people get banned from the FFL group like they do at MUM? That 
sounds pretty strange to me. Are you a "re-certified" TM Teacher?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, "crazy" people don't get banned from FFL. Just those with no self-control, 
or consideration for others. But you knew that, didn't you? PS If you are 
looking to enjoy the same martyrdom, you will have to appear considerably more 
offensive, not just clueless.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Do "crazy" people get banned from the FFL group like they do at MUM? That 
sounds pretty strange to me. Are you a "re-certified" TM Teacher?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Actually, Ollie, while FFL2 is still "active" in the sense of being open, 
activity there has been sporadic for a while. Once the thugs had run over to 
The_Closet with their tails between their legs, there just weren't enough 
people to keep FFL2 going steadily, and much of the activity has moved back to 
FFL. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 Do "crazy" people get banned from the FFL group like they do at MUM? That 
sounds pretty strange to me. Are you a "re-certified" TM Teacher?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, it doesn't look like that, and that's not what happened. Where on earth did 
you get that hallucinatory notion? Is that what they're claiming over on 
The_Closet now? 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

So, did you graduate from MUM or get banned? Apparently banning and shunning 
are the common factors under discussion between FFL and the TM org. And, why is 
almost everyone posting here using an alias? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yuppers, the ultimate 'old boy's club'. "You pat me on the back and I'll do 
the same" is their unspoken but clearly understood motto. It has to feel just a 
tad incestuous over there. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Wow, you're a crazy person. 

 The_Closet--er, excuse me, The_Corner--was publicly announced on FFL2. Nobody 
had to do any spying to find out about it.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 
 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

 So, you tracked the hypocrites down to The Corner, just like MUM when they 
want to ban you from the Dome and from campus - spy and report back on people 
at an Amma talk. Maybe you don't realize how similar you are to the TM Org. 
 

 Are you, or have you ever been, a student at MUM?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...///
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[ananda_das_gupta]

So, this forum is run just like the Dome and MUM and the TM Org, with banning 
and shunning. Am I making that up? Maybe you've never been to Fairfield, IA.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 
 

 Yuppers, the ultimate 'old boy's club'. "You pat me on the back and I'll do 
the same" is their unspoken but clearly understood motto. It has to feel just a 
tad incestuous over there.
 


 
 On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
meeting his definition of "spiritual".

The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and were 
more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
self-discipline.

Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
 

 Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer at 
the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. Talk 
about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even read 
anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And the guy 
who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones giving 
Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to be 
believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what they 
have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
your definition of spiritual.
 

 You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales force."
 

 Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
 

 What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
 

 Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
 

 Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
 

 Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here.  

 It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from David 
Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to Fairfield to 
be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed by the 
movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community here.  

 Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  

 It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a group 
meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary retributive 
tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales force of the 
re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal departments 
for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  

 It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice of 
jyotish. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Ollie, that becomes a consideration here.  What is Fair to exclude on?  
 

 Dispossessing the way they have administrated it is asserted to be fair and 
rational except that the ‘non-compete’ clauses for membership that relate to 
doing non-Maharishi Jyotish and doing non-Maharishi yoga, Non-Maharishi 
ayurveda, etc, came along as ‘add-ons’ in a sequence of time.   
 This nature of character of assessing fealty has been asserting itself 
excluding and sending away whole categories of interested practicing meditators 
for 35 years. For positive reasons of expansion this needs to change now.   

That old business and fanatical believer mindset of separating practicing 
meditators from the group meditation as a primary means of retribution against 
categories of private life for members has been little other than corrosive to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

[Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hypocrisy Is Us (re The Corner)

Sal 


> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:26 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> In Doug's defense, not one person has *ever* been banned from FFL for not 
> meeting his definition of "spiritual".
> 
> The reason a few were banned, is that they lacked basic social skills, and 
> were more interested in being a pain in the ass, vs. contributing anything of 
> substance. Had nothing to do with content, and everything to do with not 
> playing well with others, due to immaturity, a lack of manners, and no 
> self-discipline.
> 
> Perhaps you could quit making shit up? Thanks in advance...
> 
> Well, at least FFL and Doug aren't like The Corner where there is a bouncer 
> at the door with a prepared list of those who can't even get in the room. 
> Talk about censorship and lack of free speech. In addition, you can't even 
> read anything there unless you are on the list of approved individuals. And 
> the guy who started that forum and those who are in attendance were the ones 
> giving Doug a hard time about the lack of free speech at FFL. Too ironic to 
> be believed. Luckily, since I know everyone over there and have heard what 
> they have to say about a hundred times I'm not remotely interested in getting 
> admitted. Some things just don't get better with age.
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> What you may not realize is that the way you're running this discussion forum 
> is just like they run the Dome - banning and shunning people that don't meet 
> your definition of spiritual.
> 
> You're obviously selling TM and using your position as FFL moderator to 
> enforce guidelines "as a primary retributive tool to discipline a sales 
> force."
> 
> Maybe you could set us straight by answering a few questions.
> 
> What is your exact position, if any, with MUM?
> 
> Are you a re-certified TM teacher in good standing with the TM Org?
> 
> Did you graduate from the university, and if not, why not?
> 
> Sometimes, you seem to be posting under various aliases. Why is that?
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> This kind of thing is just bad irony and publicity for what is going on here. 
>  
> 
> It is plenty past time to just go and gut the Dome guidelines of the 
> ‘non-compete’ clauses particularly around the practice of jyotish.  Fairfield 
> is full of people secretly promoting and practicing jyotish and giving 
> readings.   Every time the Weekly Reader boldly publishes astrology from 
> David Hawthorne it is a reminder of how he and his family in moving to 
> Fairfield to be part of something larger were ridiculously judged and screwed 
> by the movement. This is just plain bad for the energetics of the community 
> here.  
> 
> Everyone gets the irony of going to Pat Hayward for consultation too.  
> Everyone at all levels of the ™ movement does it.  
> 
> It is quite time to stop using the Dome badge guidelines as weapon-ry against 
> the community.  IThis has been Self-destructive all along.  The Dome badge 
> guidelines need to be made much simpler to what it simply takes to run a 
> group meditation and stop using the Dome badge guidelines as a primary 
> retributive tool to discipline a sales force; let administration of a sales 
> force of the re-cert TM teachers be the particular dealings of an HR or legal 
> departments for the teaching side [Maharishi Foundation] of the movement.  
> 
> It is time to damn and dump those ‘non-compete’ clauses around the practice 
> of jyotish. 
> 
> -JaiGuruYou
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> Ollie, that becomes a consideration here.  What is Fair to exclude on?  
> 
> Dispossessing the way they have administrated it is asserted to be fair and 
> rational except that the ‘non-compete’ clauses for membership that relate to 
> doing non-Maharishi Jyotish and doing non-Maharishi yoga, Non-Maharishi 
> ayurveda, etc, came along as ‘add-ons’ in a sequence of time.   
> This nature of character of assessing fealty has been asserting itself 
> excluding and sending away whole categories of interested practicing 
> meditators for 35 years. For positive reasons of expansion this needs to 
> change now.   
> 
> That old business and fanatical believer mindset of separating practicing 
> meditators from the group meditation as a primary means of retribution 
> against categories of private life for members has been little other than 
> corrosive to what was a larger communal mission and hope. -Jai
> 
> 
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
> 
> It seems like a fair enough demarcation to say that those who have set 
> themselves up as teachers of another discipline would not be compatible with 
> ongoing Dome TM-Sidhis programs. As Ken Kesey famously said, "you're