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In a message dated 6/9/06 3:18:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  heard somewhere, the Jesus said something like:If you're teaching is 
  not welcomed, somewhere;Then just dust off your shoes, and move 
  on... 

That teaching seems to evolved to: if your teaching is not 
welcomed, dust off your shoes and parkyourself in their living room 
until they leave.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 6/9/06 3:18:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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 heard somewhere, the Jesus said something like:
 If you're teaching is  not welcomed, somewhere;
 Then just dust off your shoes, and move  on...
 
 That teaching seems to evolved to: if your teaching is not  welcomed, 
 dust off your shoes and  park yourself in their living room  until 
 they leave.

Is the TMO setting up in Kansas so it can teach
Kansans?

Or is the purpose just a bit different?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Alex Stanley

  
 In a message dated 6/9/06 3:18:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 heard somewhere, the Jesus said something like:
 If you're teaching is  not welcomed, somewhere;
 Then just dust off your shoes, and move  on...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 That teaching seems to evolved to: if your teaching is not
 welcomed, dust off your shoes and park yourself in their
 living room until they leave.

The impression I get is that the purpose of the Kansas facility is for
a small group of Sidhas to radiate woowoo rays equally to the entire
US population. I'd wager that there will be minimal interaction
between the TMO and the Kansas locals if that facility is built. 

As for the point you raise, I don't think it's accurate. Fairfield
certainly has no shortage of churches, so it's really not valid to
portray the TMO as digging in until others leave; obviously
Fairfield's Christian congregations *haven't* left. Hell, the anti-Roo
Christian ministry is prominently located right on Burlington Ave., a
block from the square!






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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
  In a message dated 6/9/06 3:18:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  babajii_99@ writes:
  
   
  heard somewhere, the Jesus said something like:
  If you're teaching is  not welcomed, somewhere;
  Then just dust off your shoes, and move  on...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: 
  That teaching seems to evolved to: if your teaching is not
  welcomed, dust off your shoes and park yourself in their
  living room until they leave.
 
 The impression I get is that the purpose of the Kansas 
 facility is for a small group of Sidhas to radiate woowoo 
 rays equally to the entire US population. 

I don't know that I've ever heard it expressed so
perfectly, or so accurately. :-)

 I'd wager that there will be minimal interaction
 between the TMO and the Kansas locals if that facility 
 is built. 

I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves
to interacting with the locals; it would weaken their
woowoo...








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Vaj

On Jun 9, 2006, at 10:24 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/9/06 3:18:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: heard somewhere, the Jesus said something like: If you're teaching is not welcomed, somewhere; Then just dust off your shoes, and move on... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: That teaching seems to evolved to: if your teaching is not welcomed, dust off your shoes and park yourself in their living room until they leave. The impression I get is that the purpose of the Kansas facility is for a small group of Sidhas to radiate woowoo rays equally to the entire US population. I don't know that I've ever heard it expressed so perfectly, or so accurately. :-) Well his brother IS the King of Denver! But does his dominion include Kansas? Love that phrase: "woowoo rays."I'd wager that there will be minimal interactionbetween the TMO and the Kansas locals if that facilityis built.I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselvesto interacting with the locals; it would weaken theirwoowoo...I'd wager as soon as they figure out there is a competing creationist set-up in town (with better diagrams, videos and their own scientists)--with no Jesus in it--sparks will fly. Sounds like that may be happening already...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas





on 6/9/06 9:42 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves
to interacting with the locals; it would weaken their
woowoo...

I'd wager as soon as they figure out there is a competing creationist set-up in town (with better diagrams, videos and their own scientists)--with no Jesus in it--sparks will fly. Sounds like that may be happening already...

Its worth mentioning that after all the decades of coexistence here in FF, theres a pretty healthy overlap between the meditating and non-meditating communities, not only in companies but in social settings. Even some marriages. There are extremists at either end of the spectrum who wont mingle, but perhaps a majority in the middle who will. Many of the mediating minglers are TMers who have become open-minded and eclectic in their approach to spirituality and life in general.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 on 6/9/06 9:42 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves
   to interacting with the locals; it would weaken their
   woowoo...
  
  I'd wager as soon as they figure out there is a competing 
  creationist set-up in town (with better diagrams, videos 
  and their own scientists)--with no Jesus in it--sparks 
  will fly. Sounds like that may be happening already...
 
 It¹s worth mentioning that after all the decades of coexistence 
 here in FF, there¹s a pretty healthy overlap between the 
 meditating and non-meditating communities, not only in 
 companies but in social settings. Even some marriages. There 
 are extremists at either end of the spectrum who won¹t
 mingle, but perhaps a majority in the middle who will. Many 
 of the mediating minglers are TMers who have become open-minded 
 and eclectic in their approach to spirituality and life in general.

I don't doubt this about Fairfield. But my wager was
based more on a feeling for what this Kansas place is
likely to be like. Fairfield is a dynamic college town,
with necessary interaction between Ru's and townies.
But doncha get the feeling that anything built in this
new Kansas place is basically going to be a retreat house, 
where the inhabitants basically hole up and butt-bounce 
for peace?

Or am I off in this assumption? Has there been talk
of actually creating something less like a rounding 
course facility and more like a real-world ocmmunity?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Vaj

On Jun 9, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 6/9/06 9:42 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselvesto interacting with the locals; it would weaken theirwoowoo...I'd wager as soon as they figure out there is a competing creationist set-up in town (with better diagrams, videos and their own scientists)--with no Jesus in it--sparks will fly. Sounds like that may be happening already...It’s worth mentioning that after all the decades of coexistence here in FF, there’s a pretty healthy overlap between the meditating and non-meditating communities, not only in companies but in social settings. Even some marriages. There are extremists at either end of the spectrum who won’t mingle, but perhaps a majority in the middle who will. Many of the mediating minglers are TMers who have become open-minded and eclectic in their approach to spirituality and life in general. That's FF--I had the impression that the place in KS was a more remote area.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

on 6/9/06 10:28 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't doubt this about Fairfield. But my wager was
based more on a feeling for what this Kansas place is
likely to be like. Fairfield is a dynamic college town,
with necessary interaction between Ru's and townies.
But doncha get the feeling that anything built in this
new Kansas place is basically going to be a retreat house,
where the inhabitants basically hole up and butt-bounce
for peace?

Or am I off in this assumption? Has there been talk
of actually creating something less like a rounding
course facility and more like a real-world ocmmunity?

Theres talk of creating an organic farm, but as has been reported, that area is dry and drought-prone, so that will probably be a flop. Its probably a moot point. I doubt anything will be built there, and if it is, who will occupy it? Maybe a few TBs from MUM will go down, but it will be hard to build a community.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Sal Sunshine

What anti-Roo Christian ministry?

Sal


On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

Hell, the anti-Roo
Christian ministry is prominently located right on Burlington Ave., a
block from the square!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas







In a message dated 6/9/06 9:21:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- In 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:  That teaching seems to evolved to: if your 
  teaching is not welcomed, dust off your shoes and park yourself in 
  their living room until they leave.The impression I get is 
  that the purpose of the Kansas facility is fora small group of Sidhas to 
  radiate woowoo rays equally to the entireUS population. I'd wager that 
  there will be minimal interactionbetween the TMO and the Kansas locals if 
  that facility is built. As for the point you raise, I don't think it's 
  accurate. Fairfieldcertainly has no shortage of churches, so it's really 
  not valid toportray the TMO as digging in until others leave; 
  obviouslyFairfield's Christian congregations *haven't* left. Hell, the 
  anti-RooChristian ministry is prominently located right on Burlington 
  Ave., ablock from the square!

Well, you know the TMO people that move in there will also 
have to get involved in the local politics as they did in Fairfield. Smith 
Center seems to be a much smaller town than Fairfield and it sounds like to me 
the TMO people will have a stronger impact politically which may or may not have 
an effect on their welcome. Time will tell.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas





on 6/9/06 11:01 AM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What anti-Roo Christian ministry? 

Sal 
 
Hes referring to the one Kai Drhl belongs to. A few doors west of Yummys.

On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: 

 Hell, the anti-Roo 
Christian ministry is prominently located right on Burlington Ave., a 
block from the square! 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

   Hell, the anti-Roo Christian ministry is prominently 
   located right on Burlington Ave., a block from the square!
  
  What anti-Roo Christian ministry?
  
 He¹s referring to the one Kai Drühl belongs to. A few doors 
 west of Yummy¹s.

I don't know anything about either an anti-Roo ministry
or someone named Kai Drühl, but I confessed to having
had my socks charmed off that you've got a place in
town called Yummy's.  :-)








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas







In a message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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I'd 
  wager that the residents won't lower themselvesto interacting with the 
  locals; it would weaken theirwoowoo...

Bingo. And don't think the locals won't pick up on this. Just 
wait till some local extends a hand for a handshake and a *tater* either 
refuses to shake hands or touch the local, instead offering a pranam. I doubt 
the locals will ever see them as evil , but will definitely see them as odd or 
at least strange and probably will resent any interferencein the local 
politics especially if it comes down to" them against 
us".
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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hell, the anti-Roo Christian ministry is prominently 
located right on Burlington Ave., a block from the square!
   
   What anti-Roo Christian ministry?
   
  He¹s referring to the one Kai Drühl belongs to. A few doors 
  west of Yummy¹s.
 
 I don't know anything about either an anti-Roo ministry
 or someone named Kai Drühl, but I confessed to having
 had my socks charmed off that you've got a place in
 town called Yummy's.  :-)

That's where Kai Drühls.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 

   In a message dated 6/9/06 3:18:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
   babajii_99@ writes:
   

   heard somewhere, the Jesus said something like:
   If you're teaching is  not welcomed, somewhere;
   Then just dust off your shoes, and move  on...
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: 
   That teaching seems to evolved to: if your teaching is not
   welcomed, dust off your shoes and park yourself in their
   living room until they leave.
  
  The impression I get is that the purpose of the Kansas 
  facility is for a small group of Sidhas to radiate woowoo 
  rays equally to the entire US population. 
 
 I don't know that I've ever heard it expressed so
 perfectly, or so accurately. :-)
 
  I'd wager that there will be minimal interaction
  between the TMO and the Kansas locals if that facility 
  is built. 
 
 I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves
 to interacting with the locals; it would weaken their
 woowoo...

Woo Woo!






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas







In a message dated 6/9/06 10:33:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Or am I 
  off in this assumption? Has there been talkof actually creating something 
  less like a rounding course facility and more like a real-world 
  ocmmunity?

My impression is that it is to be a community along side 
another community and I think they will end up being more like oil and water. Of 
course they will try to be cordial toward one another, but I think there will 
always be some underlying strain between the two. The *taters* life style will 
always seem odd to the townies and so much of what the townies consider 
absolutely normaland natural has already been rejected by the *taters* as 
being yuckie. The real test will be how much will the new comers try to 
influence the local politics.
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In a message dated 6/9/06 10:44:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  That's FF--I had the impression that the place in KS was a more remote 
  area.

And smaller
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In a message dated 6/9/06 11:56:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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   I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves to 
  interacting with the locals; it would weaken their 
  woowoo...Woo Woo! 

I would like to nominate the term woo woo to be adopted as 
official Fairfield Life speak.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well his brother IS the King of Denver! But does his dominion
 include Kansas?

My understanding is that Kansas is actually Raja Wynne's territory,
but Raja Stanley managed to pull off a coup d'etat and take over the
Kansas project.





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on 6/9/06 11:36 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hell, the anti-Roo Christian ministry is prominently 
   located right on Burlington Ave., a block from the square!
  
  What anti-Roo Christian ministry?
 
 Hes referring to the one Kai Drhl belongs to. A few doors 
 west of Yummys.

I don't know anything about either an anti-Roo ministry
or someone named Kai Drhl, but I confessed to having
had my socks charmed off that you've got a place in
town called Yummy's. :-)

 its a bakery.

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on 6/9/06 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves
to interacting with the locals; it would weaken their
woowoo...
Bingo. And don't think the locals won't pick up on this. Just wait till some local extends a hand for a handshake and a *tater* either refuses to shake hands or touch the local, instead offering a pranam. 

Very few, if any, meditators would do anything like that. Even the most true blue roo is not above shaking hands.

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In a message dated 6/9/06 12:59:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well his 
  brother IS the King of Denver! But does his dominion include 
  Kansas?My understanding is that Kansas is actually Raja Wynne's 
  territory,but Raja Stanley managed to pull off a coup d'etat and take over 
  theKansas project.

Uh oh! This is how it starts! when M is gone, there will be 
disagreements over territory then the British will come in and set up one raja 
against another and end up taking the whole ball of 
wax.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Peter



--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 6/9/06 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  In a message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central
 Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'd  wager that the residents won't lower
 themselves
  to interacting with the  locals; it would weaken
 their
  woowoo...
  Bingo. And don't think the locals won't pick up on
 this. Just wait till some
  local extends a hand for a handshake and a 
 *tater* either refuses to shake
  hands or touch the local, instead offering a
 pranam.
  
 Very few, if any, meditators would do anything like
 that. Even the most true
 blue roo is not above shaking hands.

But how do you remove the townie juice that deletes
the  woowoo power?



 


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In a message dated 6/9/06 1:12:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  In a 
message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd wager 
  that the residents won't lower themselvesto interacting with the 
  locals; it would weaken 
theirwoowoo...Bingo. And don't think the locals won't 
pick up on this. Just wait till some local extends a hand for a handshake 
and a *tater* either refuses to shake hands or touch the local, 
instead offering a pranam. Very few, if any, 
  meditators would do anything like that. Even the most true blue roo is not 
  above shaking hands. 

Well, I guess things have changed over the years, I used to 
see it often enough. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I don't doubt this about Fairfield. But my wager was
 based more on a feeling for what this Kansas place is
 likely to be like. Fairfield is a dynamic college town,
 with necessary interaction between Ru's and townies.
 But doncha get the feeling that anything built in this
 new Kansas place is basically going to be a retreat house, 
 where the inhabitants basically hole up and butt-bounce 
 for peace?
 
That's certainly my impression. I'm picturing a remote, Branch
Davidian-ish compound with marble cladding.





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In a message dated 6/9/06 1:20:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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But how 
  do you remove the townie juice that deletesthe woowoo 
power?

By wearing lots of rudraksha, silk clothes and Birkinstocks 
and keeping a distance from the townie juice. Of course incense and sprinkling 
water with a flower everywhere helps.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  on 6/9/06 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   In a message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central
  Daylight Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I'd  wager that the residents won't lower
  themselves
   to interacting with the  locals; it would weaken
  their
   woowoo...
   Bingo. And don't think the locals won't pick up on
  this. Just wait till some
   local extends a hand for a handshake and a 
  *tater* either refuses to shake
   hands or touch the local, instead offering a
  pranam.
   
  Very few, if any, meditators would do anything like
  that. Even the most true
  blue roo is not above shaking hands.
 
 But how do you remove the townie juice that deletes
 the  woowoo power?
 
drink it.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread Patrick Gillam

--- authfriend wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 Hell, the anti-Roo Christian ministry is prominently 
 located right on Burlington Ave., a block from the square!

What anti-Roo Christian ministry?

   He¹s referring to the one Kai Drühl belongs to. A few doors 
   west of Yummy¹s.
  
  I don't know anything about either an anti-Roo ministry
  or someone named Kai Drühl, but I confessed to having
  had my socks charmed off that you've got a place in
  town called Yummy's.  :-)
 
 That's where Kai Drühls.

Thanks for omitting the winking emoticom.





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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
  Hell, the anti-Roo Christian ministry is prominently 
  located right on Burlington Ave., a block from the square!
 
 What anti-Roo Christian ministry?
 
He¹s referring to the one Kai Drühl belongs to. A few doors 
west of Yummy¹s.
   
   I don't know anything about either an anti-Roo ministry
   or someone named Kai Drühl, but I confessed to having
   had my socks charmed off that you've got a place in
   town called Yummy's.  :-)
  
  That's where Kai Drühls.
 
 Thanks for omitting the winking emoticom.

;-)








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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 6/9/06 9:42 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  I'd wager that the residents won't lower themselves
  to interacting with the locals; it would weaken their
  woowoo...
  
  I'd wager as soon as they figure out there is a competing creationist set-up
  in town (with better diagrams, videos and their own scientists)--with no 
  Jesus
  in it--sparks will fly. Sounds like that may be happening already...
  
 It¹s worth mentioning that after all the decades of coexistence here in FF,
 there¹s a pretty healthy overlap between the meditating and non-meditating
 communities, not only in companies but in social settings. Even some
 marriages. There are extremists at either end of the spectrum who won¹t
 mingle, but perhaps a majority in the middle who will. Many of the mediating
 minglers are TMers who have become open-minded and eclectic in their
 approach to spirituality and life in general.


Especially the followers of Robin Carlson, your guru, and the rest of the 
former TBers, 
right?

Durned few TBers of TM drop away from TM, and start following another guru, 
have 
actually become liberal, in my observation. The TBers that drop away from TM 
and become 
liberal, eschew gurus completely. The TBers that drop away from TM and find 
another 
guru are simply TBers of the new system/guru/whatever.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 6/9/06 10:28 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I don't doubt this about Fairfield. But my wager was
  based more on a feeling for what this Kansas place is
  likely to be like. Fairfield is a dynamic college town,
  with necessary interaction between Ru's and townies.
  But doncha get the feeling that anything built in this
  new Kansas place is basically going to be a retreat house,
  where the inhabitants basically hole up and butt-bounce
  for peace?
  
  Or am I off in this assumption? Has there been talk
  of actually creating something less like a rounding
  course facility and more like a real-world ocmmunity?
  
 There¹s talk of creating an organic farm, but as has been reported, that
 area is dry and drought-prone, so that will probably be a flop. It¹s
 probably a moot point. I doubt anything will be built there, and if it is,
 who will occupy it? Maybe a few TBs from MUM will go down, but it will be
 hard to build a community.


I always laugh when I hear drought prone. One man's drought is another man's 
excessive 
rainfall... There are plenty of cash crops in southern Arizona, even though it 
has less than 
15 inches of rainfall a year, on average.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 6/9/06 9:21:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 --- In  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  That teaching seems to evolved to: if your  teaching is not
  welcomed, dust off your shoes and park yourself in  their
  living room until they leave.
 
 The impression I get is  that the purpose of the Kansas facility is for
 a small group of Sidhas to  radiate woowoo rays equally to the entire
 US population. I'd wager that  there will be minimal interaction
 between the TMO and the Kansas locals if  that facility is built. 
 
 As for the point you raise, I don't think it's  accurate. Fairfield
 certainly has no shortage of churches, so it's really  not valid to
 portray the TMO as digging in until others leave;  obviously
 Fairfield's Christian congregations *haven't* left. Hell, the  anti-Roo
 Christian ministry is prominently located right on Burlington  Ave., a
 block from the square!
 
 
 
 
 Well, you know the TMO people that move in there will also  have to get 
 involved in the local politics as they did in Fairfield. Smith  Center seems 
 to be 
 a much smaller town than Fairfield and it sounds like to me  the TMO people 
 will have a stronger impact politically which may or may not have  an effect 
 on 
 their welcome. Time will tell.


Sigh, revisionist history is so interesting to watch. The current mayor of 
Fairfield practices 
TM and the TM-Sidhis. He replaced a guy who was mayor of Fairfield for about 20 
more 
years AFTER MIU arrived on the scene.

If you want an example of contrived interference in local politics by a  
spiritual 
organization, you look at Antelope, Oregon, AKA Rancho Rajneesh, NOT Fairfield, 
Iowa.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  Well his brother IS the King of Denver! But does his dominion
  include Kansas?
 
 My understanding is that Kansas is actually Raja Wynne's territory,
 but Raja Stanley managed to pull off a coup d'etat and take over the
 Kansas project.


Huh. Thought that the Kansas project was directly under John Hagelin's 
control...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 6/9/06 11:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  In a message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'd  wager that the residents won't lower themselves
  to interacting with the  locals; it would weaken their
  woowoo...
  Bingo. And don't think the locals won't pick up on this. Just wait till some
  local extends a hand for a handshake and a  *tater* either refuses to shake
  hands or touch the local, instead offering a pranam.
  
 Very few, if any, meditators would do anything like that. Even the most true
 blue roo is not above shaking hands.


Hell, MMY used to hold Swami Satchadananda's hand and rest his other hand on 
Tatwalla's 
knee. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

2006-06-09 Thread bob_brigante

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
  I don't doubt this about Fairfield. But my wager was
  based more on a feeling for what this Kansas place is
  likely to be like. Fairfield is a dynamic college town,
  with necessary interaction between Ru's and townies.
  But doncha get the feeling that anything built in this
  new Kansas place is basically going to be a retreat house, 
  where the inhabitants basically hole up and butt-bounce 
  for peace?
  


 That's certainly my impression. I'm picturing a remote, Branch
 Davidian-ish compound with marble cladding.



***

My guess is that, given that they can't get pundits into the U.S., 
they'll eventually settle for a mostly symbolic presence in the 
Kansas Brahmastan, as they evidently intend to do in most countries 
of the world:

Dear Governors, sidhas and citizens of the Global Country of World 
Peace,
 
Now we have to buy a few hectares or acres of land in the center 
point--Brahmasthan--of your country to be the center of prevention-
oriented national administration by Total Natural Law; and in this 
way you will take the first step of the unification of all countries 
into one global name: Maharishi Global Finance of New York. 
 
We are sending you by separate email the exact coordinates of the 
Brahmasthan of your country. Because in almost every country the 
Brahmasthan will be a little bit away from the population, for the 
time being we will have our symbolic presence with our flag raised 
in the land we will acquire in the Brahmasthan, but our actual 
activity will be in opening schools colleges, and facilities of our 
medical health care system as well as building Fortune-Creating 
homes and places of work in the midst of the population of the 
country.
 
Having obtained the Brahmasthan or even in the process of doing it, 
have a meeting of all of the Sidhas today or tomorrow or contact 
them personally immediately to inform them and get their support for 
the objective of creating groups of Yogic flyers in the country and 
inform us. 
 
In this we would have established a global organisation whose 
activities will be to create groups of Yogic Flyers everywhere 
raising the quality of national consciousness to a high level of 
integration, positivity, harmony and Peace. All these qualities 
together will raise the quality of national consciousness and its 
administration to a high level of invincibility. 
 
This is our responsibility when we have already created an 
invincible country. You must be aware that our Yogic flyers--400 in 
Holland--have already raised Holland's national consciousness and 
every day the signs of invincibility are being witnessed in the 
quality of Holland's consciousness. 
 
Raja Willem, the Raja of Holland and the Prime Minister of Global 
Country of World Peace in Holland, Dr. Paul Gelderloos are observing 
the signs of invincibility rising in Holland. You must have seen the 
reports in the Maharishi's Global Family Chat and very soon you will 
begin to receive in your country these daily reports of rising 
invincibility in Holland. 
 
Very soon with your efforts the national consciousness of your 
country will also rise to the ideal level of invincibility and you 
will be, with Holland, a rising star to guide the destiny of our 
family of nations.
 
These days are very precious for us so please do everything day and 
night and achieve the desired goal with the help of all the Sidhas 
in your country. 
 
Jai Guru Dev.
 
Dr. Benjamin Feldman 
Minister of Finance and Planning/Kuber, 
of the Global Country of World Peace
 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

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  on 6/9/06 11:38 AM, MDixon6569@ at MDixon6569@ wrote:
   
   
   In a message dated 6/9/06 9:32:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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   I'd  wager that the residents won't lower themselves
   to interacting with the  locals; it would weaken their
   woowoo...
   Bingo. And don't think the locals won't pick up on this. Just 
wait till some
   local extends a hand for a handshake and a  *tater* either 
refuses to shake
   hands or touch the local, instead offering a pranam.
   
  Very few, if any, meditators would do anything like that. Even 
the most true
  blue roo is not above shaking hands.
 
 
 Hell, MMY used to hold Swami Satchadananda's hand and rest his 
 other hand on Tatwalla's knee.

That's OK, they both had woowoo to burn.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

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  I don't doubt this about Fairfield. But my wager was
  based more on a feeling for what this Kansas place is
  likely to be like. Fairfield is a dynamic college town,
  with necessary interaction between Ru's and townies.
  But doncha get the feeling that anything built in this
  new Kansas place is basically going to be a retreat house, 
  where the inhabitants basically hole up and butt-bounce 
  for peace?
  
 That's certainly my impression. I'm picturing a remote, Branch
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

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on 6/9/06 3:46 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I always laugh when I hear drought prone. One man's drought is another man's excessive 
rainfall... There are plenty of cash crops in southern Arizona, even though it has less than 
15 inches of rainfall a year, on average.

Because you irrigate, right?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mounting concerns about TM org in Kansas

on 6/9/06 3:44 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Its worth mentioning that after all the decades of coexistence here in FF,
theres a pretty healthy overlap between the meditating and non-meditating
communities, not only in companies but in social settings. Even some
marriages. There are extremists at either end of the spectrum who wont
mingle, but perhaps a majority in the middle who will. Many of the mediating
minglers are TMers who have become open-minded and eclectic in their
approach to spirituality and life in general.

Especially the followers of Robin Carlson,

There arent any.

your guru, and the rest of the former TBers,
right?

Yes. They tend to be more open-minded than those on campus.

Durned few TBers of TM drop away from TM, and start following another guru, have
actually become liberal, in my observation.

Then your observation is very limited (probably to Tucson) and therefore incorrect.

The TBers that drop away from TM and become
liberal, eschew gurus completely.

Some do; most dont.

The TBers that drop away from TM and find another
guru are simply TBers of the new system/guru/whatever.

Some are. Most tend to be more objective and to move in the direction of being able to examine their assumptions.

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