Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
Capitalism is the best system for the disabled, sick and old age. Wealth is
created abundantly by capitalism which can be taxed and provide a safety net.
People can also provide for themselves better and the smart ones save for their
future.. Most, if not all, union pension plans are heavily invested in
capitalism which pays their member benefits. Ask the people of the former
Soviet Union and China if they prefer capitalism or old Soviet central planning
with Socialism. Governments don't generate wealth, they just take it away and
redistribute it. Free enterprise generates wealth. Ask any rich person or
person aspiring to be rich. With an abundance of wealth, good things can be
done and planned for. The Soviet Union couldn't clean up they environmental
messes they created.
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
I think capitalism is often a good thing, but the problem is that it gets
applied to every area - and some things don't flourish under capitalism. some
things just don't work well with that approach - like taking care of the
disabled, or people getting sick, or old age. People need help from time to
time, and the unlucky ones need more help than average. But beyond that, it is
going to be a terrible problem to change our approach to the economy, and to
begin to somehow not think of success as perpetual growth growing and getting
bigger and more profitable. I just cannot imagine how this is going to play
out once climate change becomes a scary and very real emergency for us all.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity
There's always more work to be done! People may need to develope new or different skills. Craftsmen that build or repair buggies aren't in big demand these day, but people that can make or repair cars are. And people may need to compete for the best jobs. I'll agree, education doesn't guarantee a damned thing, but I can almost guarantee that a lack of education can almost guarantee poverty. Higher education doesn't have to be a four year college/university and advanced degrees. It can simply be a good trade school and learning a valued skill. Hell, having a good attitude and work ethic can take some people pretty far! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Thing is that many people who dropped out of high school may turn out to be very aggressive and fortuitous. Education does not really guarantee an income. I went to college to learn things not to get a piece of paper that would guarantee me an income. Being a professional musician was a tough road to hoe and a very political one at that. It's not so much what you know but who you know. So answer me this: if we have all the workers we need and there is no other work to be done what happens to the rest of the populace? Are they expected to starve? Another thing: many of the people out of work aren't high school dropouts, they aren't even college dropouts, they aren't even inexperienced. In fact many have a lot of senior experience. They are just shut out of the market because they aren't cheap enough or too old. Many of these people are brighter than the richest of the rich and so at some point they may make sure there is hell to pay. And they can do it. On 11/08/2014 07:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, there's plenty of money hoarders plus plenty to go around ... for those that want to work for it. Problem is, people that never finished high school think they deserve a house in the burbs, two cars,a television set in every room, an Obama phone and make at least 15 dollars an hour flipping burgers because that's all they're quailified to do.Soviet citizens had plenty of money that they hoarded but they didn't have anything to buy with it. No capitalism , no goodies to buy. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity And with the money hoarders you get plenty of nothing to go around except the for the money hoarders. They wind up with the whole pie. Is that right? There is a middle ground but to get there the rich will have to relinquish their control and much of their wealth. Will they do it or remain the most selfish people in the history of the world? On 11/08/2014 06:02 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So we all end up like the Soviet Union and pre-capitalist China. Plenty of nothing to go around for everybody. Did you ever see or hear about the Soviet era enviornment? Plenty of mess to clean up but no money to do it. But then we will *make* them do it... for mother Russia! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity Capitalism is like candy and the rich like spoiled kids. They just want more and more candy. Hence they get fat and cranky and want their way all the time. What we need to do is take away their candy from them and let them dry out. Otherwise they become a complete drag on society. Free enterprise is not a bad idea about capitalism run amok is very dangerous. Sometimes you just have to shut things down and spank the miscreants. On 11/08/2014 04:46 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wayback, I've read Klein online and found her to be a compelling writer. But when I think about my Dad and stepMom, staunch Republicans, I bet they never even heard of Silent Spring or Rachel Carson. Even though my Dad's a nature lover. Mostly what they know is being small and successful business owners. They're gonna choose capitalism over climate every time. My guess is most Republicans will simply label Klein a liberal and not pay much attention to what she has to report. From: waybac...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More American Stupidity An important new book just came out about capitalism
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich
Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich
HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich
Don't forget the kavach - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease. http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Special Power Kavach from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich
to do nothing but pretend they are doing something. If you like to go to plays, movies, where actors pretend to be other people doing often remarkable fantastic things that no one would do in real life, and you enjoy paying money for this, you can do the same thing with yagyas and indulgences, pay money to pretend something imaginary is happening that will profoundly affect your life and the world. Except it doesn't really. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Don't forget the kavach - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease. http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Special Power Kavach from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich
On 11/4/2014 1:50 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. /Barry sounds prejudiced against spiritual groups. He seems never to pass up an opportunity to criticize, even using a tragedy like a drought to make his point, blaming some poor Hindu pundit boys for climate change and weather events. One wonders what exactly, was the purpose of meeting up with Rama and 200 others out in the dessert? What good ever came out of watching Rama slowly lift up slowly off of a sofa? Go figure./ The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. /More cognitive dissonance: if you really felt this way, you'd take down your Rama web site.//There seems to be some cognitive dissonance going on with you, or maybe you're just being hypocritical.// // //http://ramalila.org//
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On 11/4/2014 7:39 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! /How are those Kung Foo squats working out for you - any enlightenment yet? The purpose of Kung Foo is to make use of the pure consciousness of the Qi, a latent force of energy and intelligence that lies within. Cognitive dissonance is the confusion that comes from believing in two contradictory beliefs, both at the same time.//Hypocrisy is the criticism of others beliefs and yet holding the very same beliefs of those you criticize. It's not complicated./ *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
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On 11/4/2014 7:52 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. /That's an easy one to answer: Suggestibility//. // // //Suggestibility is the quality of being inclined to accept and act on the suggestions of others. For example, you gave Rama over $50,000 in cash over the course of a decade just so you could watch him slowly lift up off of a sofa and fly around a few inches above the floor at a Denny's in downtown L.A. //Some people are very highly prone to suggestion./ Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) /My guess is that all you got for your money was to get to sit in the front row at a Rama lecture, so you could work the smoke and mirrors. Obviously that's not going to work on a discussion group, even without Judy to point out your logical errors. Go figure./ *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment
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On 11/4/2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Don't forget the kavach - an amulet that is reputed to ward off negative influences. I don't know if the Movement officially sells them, but I know some TM True Believers here in SC that wear them religiously. Check this crap out: /Obviously you're no longer wearing a wedding ring. Next you'll be wanting to take out anyone wearing a yarmulke, a cowboy hat, or girls wearing head scarves or pants.//First, they came for the Jews./.. Dreaded diseases like cancer, heart attack, kidney failure, diabetes, asthama, paralysis, etc. are caused by severe afflictions to badly placed weak planets. The natal chart provides advance insight in one's vulnerability to such diseases. The experience and feedback shows that astrological remedial measures are likely to help persons with such natal influences to save themselves of such diseases. While the medicine systems treat the astrological remedies prevent. This is the biggest difference. It is like an insurance. If one sees its utility it costs nothing in comparison to the treatment if one contracts a dreaded disease. http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm image http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Special Power Kavach from eminent Indian Vedic Astrolo... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Kavach View on www.jyotishremedies1... http://www.jyotishremedies121.com/pokavach.htm Preview by Yahoo *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich HOW can *anyone* justify giving money to the TMO for yagyas that have been proven over and over to do absolutely nothing? It boggles the mind. Then again, most of the people still throwing their money into this pundit privy also still practice the TMSP technique, which has similarly been proved to do nothing. They still pay for astrology readings and jewels that do nothing, and live in Woo Woo houses that do nothing. My guess is that over time they've come to consider the quality of doing nothing as an actual measure of SUCCESS in a Woo Woo practice. :-) *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Oh, man! That's a good one Barry! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] fairfieldl...@yajhoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S
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According to scholars, one of the earliest mentions of pūjā is in the Grihya Sutras, which provide rules for domestic rites. These Sutras, dated to be about 500 BC, use the term puja to describe the hospitality to honor priests who were invited to one’s home to lead rituals for departed ancestors. As Hindu philosophy expanded and diversified, with developments such as the bhakti movement, the vedic puja ritual were modified and applied to the deities. As with vedic times, the general concept of puja remained the same, but expanded to welcoming the deity along with the deity's spiritual essence as one's honored guest. The Puranic corpus of literature, dating from about 6th century CE, contain extensive outline on how to perform deity puja (deva pūjā). Deity puja thus melds Vedic rites with devotion to deity in its ritual form. As with many others aspects of Hinduism, both Vedic puja and devotional deity puja continued, the choice left to the Hindu From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Yagyas and Indulgences Yajña: (Sanskrit: 'sacrifice, offering'), in Hinduism, worship based on rites prescribed in the earliest scriptures of ancient India, the Vedas, in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. A yajña is always purposeful, even though the aim may be as general as sustaining the natural order of the universe. Correct performance of the ritual and recitation of the necessary mantras, or sacred formulas, is considered essential; and the performer and the objects employed must all be in a high state of purity. Such ritual requirements gave rise to the professional class of priests, the modern Brahmans, who are still required to officiate at all important public yajñas. ——Encyclopædia Britannica Indugence: a distinctive feature of the penitential system of both the Western medieval and the Roman Catholic church that granted full or partial remission of the punishment of sin. The granting of indulgences was predicated on two beliefs. First, in the sacrament of penance it did not suffice to have the guilt (culpa) of sin forgiven through absolution alone; one also needed to undergo temporal punishment because one had offended Almighty God. Second, indulgences rested on belief in purgatory, a place in the next life where one could continue to cancel the accumulated debt of one's sins, another Western medieval conception not shared by the Eastern Greek church. From the early church onward, bishops could reduce or dispense with the rigours of penances, but indulgences emerged in only the 11th and 12th centuries when the idea of purgatory took widespread hold and when the popes became the activist leaders of the reforming church. In their zeal, they promoted the militant reclamation of once-Christian lands—first of Iberia in the Reconquista, then of the Holy Land in the Crusades—offering 'full remission of sins,' the first indulgences, as inducements to participation. ...To clarify all these issues, the Scholastic theologians of the 12th and 13th centuries worked out a fully articulated theory of penance. It consisted of three parts: contrition, confession, and satisfaction. The debt of forgiven sin could be reduced through the performance of good works in this life (pilgrimages, charitable acts, and the like) or through suffering in purgatory. Indulgences could be granted only by popes or, to a lesser extent, archbishops and bishops as ways of helping ordinary people measure and amortize their remaining debt. 'Plenary,' or full, indulgences cancelled all the existing obligation, while 'partial' indulgences remitted only a portion of it. People naturally wanted to know how much debt was forgiven (just as modern students want to know exactly what they need to study for examinations), so set periods of days, months, and years came gradually to be attached to different kinds of partial indulgences. This highly complicated theological system, which was framed as a means to help people achieve their eternal salvation, easily lent itself to misunderstanding and abuse as early as the 13th century, much sooner than is usually thought. A principal contributing factor was money. Paralleling the rise of indulgences, the Crusades, and the reforming papacy was the economic resurgence of Europe that began in the 11th century. Part of this tremendous upsurge was the phenomenon of commutation, through which any services, obligations, or goods could be converted into a corresponding monetary payment. Those eager to gain plenary indulgences, but unable to go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, wondered whether they might perform an alternative good work
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in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. Puja is non-vedic in origin From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich Yagyas and Indulgences Yajña: (Sanskrit: 'sacrifice, offering'), in Hinduism, worship based on rites prescribed in the earliest scriptures of ancient India, the Vedas, in contrast to puja, which may include image worship and devotional practices non-Vedic in origin. A yajña is always purposeful, even though the aim may be as general as sustaining the natural order of the universe. Correct performance of the ritual and recitation of the necessary mantras, or sacred formulas, is considered essential; and the performer and the objects employed must all be in a high state of purity. Such ritual requirements gave rise to the professional class of priests, the modern Brahmans, who are still required to officiate at all important public yajñas. ——Encyclopædia Britannica Indugence: a distinctive feature of the penitential system of both the Western medieval and the Roman Catholic church that granted full or partial remission of the punishment of sin. The granting of indulgences was predicated on two beliefs. First, in the sacrament of penance it did not suffice to have the guilt (culpa) of sin forgiven through absolution alone; one also needed to undergo temporal punishment because one had offended Almighty God. Second, indulgences rested on belief in purgatory, a place in the next life where one could continue to cancel the accumulated debt of one's sins, another Western medieval conception not shared by the Eastern Greek church. From the early church onward, bishops could reduce or dispense with the rigours of penances, but indulgences emerged in only the 11th and 12th centuries when the idea of purgatory took widespread hold and when the popes became the activist leaders of the reforming church. In their zeal, they promoted the militant reclamation of once-Christian lands—first of Iberia in the Reconquista, then of the Holy Land in the Crusades—offering 'full remission of sins,' the first indulgences, as inducements to participation. ...To clarify all these issues, the Scholastic theologians of the 12th and 13th centuries worked out a fully articulated theory of penance. It consisted of three parts: contrition, confession, and satisfaction. The debt of forgiven sin could be reduced through the performance of good works in this life (pilgrimages, charitable acts, and the like) or through suffering in purgatory. Indulgences could be granted only by popes or, to a lesser extent, archbishops and bishops as ways of helping ordinary people measure and amortize their remaining debt. 'Plenary,' or full, indulgences cancelled all the existing obligation, while 'partial' indulgences remitted only a portion of it. People naturally wanted to know how much debt was forgiven (just as modern students want to know exactly what they need to study for examinations), so set periods of days, months, and years came gradually to be attached to different kinds of partial indulgences. This highly complicated theological system, which was framed as a means to help people achieve their eternal salvation, easily lent itself to misunderstanding and abuse as early as the 13th century, much sooner than is usually thought. A principal contributing factor was money. Paralleling the rise of indulgences, the Crusades, and the reforming papacy was the economic resurgence of Europe that began in the 11th century. Part of this tremendous upsurge was the phenomenon of commutation, through which any services, obligations, or goods could be converted into a corresponding monetary payment. Those eager to gain plenary indulgences, but unable to go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, wondered whether they might perform an alternative good work or make an equivalent offering to a charitable enterprise—for example, the building of a leprosarium or a cathedral. Churchmen allowed such commutation, and the popes even encouraged it, especially Innocent III (reigned 1198–1216) in his various Crusading projects.From the 12th century onward the process of salvation was therefore increasingly bound up with money. Reformers of the 14th and 15th centuries frequently complained about the 'sale' of indulgences by pardoners. And as the papacy weakened in this period, secular governments increasingly allowed the granting of indulgences only in return for a substantial share of the yield, often as much as two-thirds. The princes got most of the money, and the popes got most of the blame. ——Encyclopædia Britannica If the laws
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It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
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The pundits are too busy rioting to do a rain dance. The fact that the TMO can *keep* running these scams, and *keep* finding people to throw their money away on them, is truly astounding. If there is a Museum Of Great Idiots In History somewhere, one entire wing of it is dedicated to TMers. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions No refunds then At least they don't promise that anyone who gives will get it back ten-fold. I haven't heard that since the James Randi documentary last night. I'm surprised they haven't developed a Vedic rain dance for the pundits to do, that ought to be worth a few grand of our money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dear Friends, Much of the U.S. is experiencing extreme weather, from severe storms to unusually low precipitation. California, in particular, is suffering from record drought. Recall that in August of 2012 and in February of this year, our National YagyaSM performances brought much-needed relief from the severe drought that was plaguing much of the U.S. at those times. It’s clear that the Yagyas work, but more is needed. To address this continuing need, our next U.S. National Yagya will once again incorporate an appeal for balance in the weather. It’s a tall order, and there is no guarantee that a single Yagya will alleviate these extreme conditions. The Sankalpa (intention) of the next U.S. National Yagya will be: To protect and nourish the nation with greater balance in weather, including abundant rain where needed, especially California; and Increasing peace, prosperity, and spiritual progress for the United States and its people. Wednesday, November 5, is the final day to sign up The Yagya will start on the evening of November 10. Please click now to offer your support. Or better still... commit to regular monthly sponsorship. When you make a gift of $1,250 or more at one time, you, someone you designate, or your company will be named on each day of the Vedic performance. Special Notice This year we have launched a new Yagya program for individuals and families. Maharishi Special Yagyas are a series of Yagyas designed by Maharishi to be enjoyed at important times in a person’s life: birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, and the birth of a child. These Special Yagyas bring the blessings of Nature to the individual and the family at key, transitional times when specific, supportive Laws of Nature are particularly lively and accessible. May abundant good fortune smile on America, and may Maharishi’s great legacy of peace and enlightenment permanently bless the human race. Jai Guru Dev
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On 10/27/2014 2:40 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Downtown here has free Internet. Lots of restaurants and espresso places have free Internet. Guess that's liberal speak, eh? /It is probably unlawful to loiter in downtown Oakland, but I guess you if you found a Wi-Fi hotspot you could chill in your car, if you could find a parking place, and even then, most of the time, you have to pay a parking fee. Most restaurants don't allow the use of their Wi_Fi without a purchase of at least a cup of coffee or a beer. I wonder how much it costs the other Barry to sit for hours in a cafe and use their Wi-Fi?//Go figure./ On 10/27/2014 11:56 AM, wgm4u wrote: WOW, awesome! I guess the internet is free too, huh? Firefox is free, ergo the internet is also free?, profound logic! But, that's liberal speak
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On 10/27/2014 1:21 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ** It's kinda the same with people who make up fantastic stories like these. Once you've sussed out the vibe of one person who was making this kinda stuff up to get a little -- or any -- attention, you can recognize the same vibe emanating from anyone else. These guys were never near any Area 51, much less anything alien. Once you've sussed out the vibe of one person who was making this kinda stuff up you recognize that they are probably in cognitive dissonance. But, you;d expect a guy who lived on U.S. Air Force bases all over the world for eighteen years and knows all about the Lockheed U-2 super secret spy plane would be able to come up with a story more believable than this one: /I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles // //Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee // //hours of the night./ - TurquoiseB Subject: TM is a Cult? Author: TurquoiseB Group: Yahoo Fairfieldife Date: Friday, 23 May 2014 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg317597.html
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On 10/27/2014 1:21 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ** I grew up on U.S. Air Force bases, among people who were very different, but could safely all be generalized as underachievers. If they were overachievers or even moderate achievers, they sure as fuck wouldn't have wound up as soldiers stationed in a backwater U.S. Air Force base in the Moroccan desert, an hour away from the nearest civilization (Marrakech). /It's kind of a contradiction in terms to call a U.S. fighter pilot an underachiever - go figure. Maybe you were referring to the other military brats your age. Maybe you were different and that's why you had to be supervised 24 x 7 - for _their_ safety.// // //The question is, why would any ten year old under-achiever want to ride a bus with their parents for three hours into a town 100 miles away in the middle of the desert - when they could be playing billiards back at the base Teen Club? Go figure./
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Ummm, I take it that you're not aware that the idea is to make them legal so
they *can* vote for all their *freebies*.Watch for a presidential amnesty after
the elections in order to recapture the House and Senate and completely open
the southern border. Once the *kids* are granted asylum, naturally it would be
*inhumane* to deprive them of their parents,siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins
and grandparents. They'll need minimum wage jobs at 10-15 dollars an hour or at
least all the social benefits that you and I will pay for.In the mean time,
unemployment among our own will increase, especially among teens and
African/Americans.
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You're aware that the rate of illegal voting is down in the double digits
for teh entire country, right?
In other words, there's less than 100 cases (probably far less) o f illegal
voting documented.
This could sway an incredibly close eletion at the national level, but would
require advanced knowledge that the vote would be within a hundred votes or so
in Florida. For any predictable result, there's no chance that the illegal
voting has swayed any election more important than dog catcher, and that is
being optimistic.
IOW, you've traveled far into wingnut territory.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
The Democrats are desperate for more illegal immigrants that will eventually
vote for them. These undocumented Democrats will sway close races in their
favor and eventually cause Major states to go Blue.
This will be a great Victory for the Democrats, unfortunately not for America
as it continues to grow the entitlement society we are becoming.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
You don't like free stuff? Bet you do just as much as the next guy. On 10/27/2014 06:45 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ummm, I take it that you're not aware that the idea is to make them legal so they *can* vote for all their *freebies*. Watch for a presidential amnesty after the elections in order to recapture the House and Senate and completely open the southern border. Once the *kids* are granted asylum, naturally it would be *inhumane* to deprive them of their parents,siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins and grandparents. They'll need minimum wage jobs at 10-15 dollars an hour or at least all the social benefits that you and I will pay for.In the mean time, unemployment among our own will increase, especially among teens and African/Americans. *From:* lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:06 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed! You're aware that the rate of illegal voting is down in the double digits for teh entire country, right? In other words, there's less than 100 cases (probably far less) o f illegal voting documented. This could sway an incredibly close eletion at the national level, but would require advanced knowledge that the vote would be within a hundred votes or so in Florida. For any predictable result, there's no chance that the illegal voting has swayed any election more important than dog catcher, and that is being optimistic. IOW, you've traveled far into wingnut territory. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Democrats are desperate for more illegal immigrants that will eventually vote for them. These undocumented Democrats will sway close races in their favor and eventually cause Major states to go Blue. This will be a great Victory for the Democrats, unfortunately not for America as it continues to grow the entitlement society we are becoming.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
B-There is no free stuff, hard working Americans pay for it! Really, you think government benefits come from a money tree or something? Oh, and our children and Grand children will have to pay for it...amazing comment!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
Yahoo Groups is free isn't it? Do you click on any of the ads? On 10/27/2014 09:33 AM, wgm4u wrote: B-There is no free stuff, hard working Americans pay for it! Really, you think government benefits come from a money tree or something? Oh, and our children and Grand children will have to pay for it...amazing comment!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed! Yahoo Groups is free isn't it? Do you click on any of the ads? I don't even *see* any of the ads, thanks to a piece of add-on software for Firefox called AdBlock Plus, which was...uh...free. Come to think of it, so was Firefox. On 10/27/2014 09:33 AM, wgm4u wrote: B-There is no free stuff, hard working Americans pay for it! Really, you think government benefits come from a money tree or something? Oh, and our children and Grand children will have to pay for it...amazing comment!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
No ads seen on Thunderbird either. On Firefox I use the free BlueHell Firewall which even stops ads on streaming videos though those sites are getting wise to it. On 10/27/2014 10:01 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 5:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed! Yahoo Groups is free isn't it? Do you click on any of the ads? I don't even *see* any of the ads, thanks to a piece of add-on software for Firefox called AdBlock Plus, which was...uh...free. Come to think of it, so was Firefox. On 10/27/2014 09:33 AM, wgm4u wrote: B-There is no free stuff, hard working Americans pay for it! Really, you think government benefits come from a money tree or something? Oh, and our children and Grand children will have to pay for it...amazing comment!
Photos of real aliens? [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Tells All About UFO's and Aliens Before Dying - UFO-Blogger - Aliens UFO News, UFO Sightings and Roswell UFO Incident http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Tells All About U... http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFO... View on www.ufo-blogger.com http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html Preview by Yahoo I don't know what to do with this kind of stuff. The guy is seeming sincere, but holy moly how fucking evil is this world that such information is kept from us? One fucking spaceship would have tech that would save the entire world. I'd rather believe this guy is a liar. Yep. I would.
Re: Photos of real aliens? [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Tells All About UFO's and Aliens Before Dying - UFO-Blogger - Aliens UFO News, UFO Sightings and Roswell UFO Incident http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Tells All About U... http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFO... View on www.ufo-blogger.com http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2014/10/area-51-scientist-boyd-bushman-ufo-alien-deathbed-confession.html Preview by Yahoo I don't know what to do with this kind of stuff. The guy is seeming sincere, but holy moly how fucking evil is this world that such information is kept from us? One fucking spaceship would have tech that would save the entire world. I'd rather believe this guy is a liar. Yep. I would. I think if I was him I'd really want to perpetuate the wind-up. What better way to have a laugh than a youtube video featuring someone who worked at Area 51! I came across the story here: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/10/26/dying-senior-scientist-shares-insider-truth-about-area-51-aliens-ufos-anti-gravity/ http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/10/26/dying-senior-scientist-shares-insider-truth-about-area-51-aliens-ufos-anti-gravity/ There's a blueprint down the page for an alleged spacecraft that he claims to have back-engineered out of a crashed UFO. But when you check the specs you can see that it only flies at 1.2 times the speed of sound, has a maximum altitude of 62,000 feet and a range of 3000 miles! Whatever it was they designed, it weren't no space ship! What worries me about the alien pics is that they are so humanoid, that raises my suspicions. Only two eyes, legs and arms? Bipedal walking? These things aren't alien, sure there's no reason why a being from another planet should be a multi-tentacled spider creature with six heads but given the variety of life just on this planet it seems like convergent evolution taken a bit too far for credibility.
Re: Photos of real aliens? [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Tells All About UFO's and Aliens Before Dying - UFO-Blogger - Aliens UFO News, UFO Sightings and Roswell UFO Incident Area 51 Scientist Boyd Bushman Tells All About U... Shortly before Boyd Bushman passed away on August 7, 2014, he was video recorded candidly speaking about his personal experiences with Area 51, UFO... View on www.ufo-blogger.comPreview by Yahoo I don't know what to do with this kind of stuff. The guy is seeming sincere, but holy moly how fucking evil is this world that such information is kept from us? One fucking spaceship would have tech that would save the entire world. I'd rather believe this guy is a liar. Yep. I would. I think if I was him I'd really want to perpetuate the wind-up. What better way to have a laugh than a youtube video featuring someone who worked at Area 51! I came across the story here: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/10/26/dying-senior-scientist-shares-insider-truth-about-area-51-aliens-ufos-anti-gravity/ There's a blueprint down the page for an alleged spacecraft that he claims to have back-engineered out of a crashed UFO. But when you check the specs you can see that it only flies at 1.2 times the speed of sound, has a maximum altitude of 62,000 feet and a range of 3000 miles! Whatever it was they designed, it weren't no space ship! What worries me about the alien pics is that they are so humanoid, that raises my suspicions. Only two eyes, legs and arms? Bipedal walking? These things aren't alien, sure there's no reason why a being from another planet should be a multi-tentacled spider creature with six heads but given the variety of life just on this planet it seems like convergent evolution taken a bit too far for credibility. I grew up on U.S. Air Force bases, among people who were very different, but could safely all be generalized as underachievers. If they were overachievers or even moderate achievers, they sure as fuck wouldn't have wound up as soldiers stationed in a backwater U.S. Air Force base in the Moroccan desert, an hour away from the nearest civilization (Marrakech). As it happens, this base was one of the home bases for the short-lived U2 spy plane initiative, in which high-altitude planes were used to spy on the Soviet Union. I used to watch these planes land and then taxi to the end of the runway, as if we weren't supposed to know they were there. Duh. We all knew they were there. And to this day I have not encountered a *single* person other than myself -- officer or enlisted man, child of officer or child of enlisted man, or even civilian contractor on the base -- who does seem to have his or her own special story of U2 flights, and how they somehow found themselves at ground zero of one of those flights, and thus at the center of some amazing international event. I personally assume that not one of these stories is true, just as I assume that none of the I was a scientist at Area 51 stories I've heard is true. These are just the kinda stories that ordinary human beings make up to pretend that they're not ordinary. The more detail they try to insert into their stories to prove that they were there, the less likely it is that there was any there to be present at. Dealing with people who make up stories about conspiracy theories like this to make themselves seem more important is like dealing with people who claim to have been better martial artists than they ever were. If one actually *was* a martial artist, you can take one look at how a person walks and know what their previous skill level (or lack thereof) as a martial artist was. What they say about themselves in words means nothing; what their body says about them when they move tells the real story. It's kinda the same with people who make up fantastic stories like these. Once you've sussed out the vibe of one person who was making this kinda stuff up to get a little -- or any -- attention, you can recognize the same vibe emanating from anyone else. These guys were never near any Area 51, much less anything alien.
Re: Photos of real aliens? [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
I grew up on U.S. Air Force bases, among people who were very different, but could safely all be generalized as underachievers. If they were overachievers or even moderate achievers, they sure as fuck wouldn't have wound up as soldiers stationed in a backwater U.S. Air Force base in the Moroccan desert, an hour away from the nearest civilization (Marrakech). As it happens, this base was one of the home bases for the short-lived U2 spy plane initiative, in which high-altitude planes were used to spy on the Soviet Union. I used to watch these planes land and then taxi to the end of the runway, as if we weren't supposed to know they were there. Duh. We all knew they were there. And to this day I have not encountered a *single* person other than myself -- officer or enlisted man, child of officer or child of enlisted man, or even civilian contractor on the base -- who does seem to have his or her own special story of U2 flights, and how they somehow found themselves at ground zero of one of those flights, and thus at the center of some amazing international event. I personally assume that not one of these stories is true, just as I assume that none of the I was a scientist at Area 51 stories I've heard is true. These are just the kinda stories that ordinary human beings make up to pretend that they're not ordinary. The more detail they try to insert into their stories to prove that they were there, the less likely it is that there was any there to be present at. Dealing with people who make up stories about conspiracy theories like this to make themselves seem more important is like dealing with people who claim to have been better martial artists than they ever were. If one actually *was* a martial artist, you can take one look at how a person walks and know what their previous skill level (or lack thereof) as a martial artist was. What they say about themselves in words means nothing; what their body says about them when they move tells the real story. It's kinda the same with people who make up fantastic stories like these. Once you've sussed out the vibe of one person who was making this kinda stuff up to get a little -- or any -- attention, you can recognize the same vibe emanating from anyone else. These guys were never near any Area 51, much less anything alien. No, I don't believe them either. Even if the whistle blowers were credible the distances involved are enough to make me sceptical, especially with a mere nuclear reactor as propulsion. A nice warp drive would be more interesting, there's just no imagination in these alien stories. I'm sure a proper physicist would get a bit more caught up in questions like these than the UFO crowd do. I can see how the airforce would like stories like this to perpetuate though, what better way to distract the public from what they are really doing! And a big puzzle is just when all this supposedly back-engineered stuff is going to be used by us. The stealth bomber was claimed by ufologists to be a case of alien tech but it can't fly in the rain, and it's computer system runs on Windows, and radar can still see the petrol cap! No wonder so many of them crashed, I think the Space Brothers would need a much more advanced craft than that to get here from Zeta Reticuli.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
WOW, awesome! I guess the internet is free too, huh? Firefox is free, ergo the internet is also free?, profound logic! But, that's liberal speak
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
If it's free, you're the product being sold.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
On 10/27/2014 12:38 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: No ads seen on Thunderbird either. On Firefox I use the free BlueHell Firewall which even stops ads on streaming videos though those sites are getting wise to it. /There is no free lunch - you are paying for using the internet - all your browsing history collected and sold./ On 10/27/2014 10:01 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 5:56 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed! Yahoo Groups is free isn't it? Do you click on any of the ads? I don't even *see* any of the ads, thanks to a piece of add-on software for Firefox called AdBlock Plus, which was...uh...free. Come to think of it, so was Firefox. On 10/27/2014 09:33 AM, wgm4u wrote: B-There is no free stuff, hard working Americans pay for it! Really, you think government benefits come from a money tree or something? Oh, and our children and Grand children will have to pay for it...amazing comment!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
Downtown here has free Internet. Lots of restaurants and espresso places have free Internet. Guess that's liberal speak, eh? On 10/27/2014 11:56 AM, wgm4u wrote: WOW, awesome! I guess the internet is free too, huh? Firefox is free, ergo the internet is also free?, profound logic! But, that's liberal speak
Re: Photos of real aliens? [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
On 10/27/2014 1:21 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's kinda the same with people who make up fantastic stories like these. Once you've sussed out the vibe of one person who was making this kinda stuff up to get a little -- or any -- attention, you can recognize the same vibe emanating from anyone else. These guys were never near any Area 51, much less anything alien. /We lived on U.S. Air Bases for 18 years all over the planet and I've heard stories about amazing adventures by fly-boys all my life - some were pretty amazing and a few were totally unbelievable. // // //But, by far your story about Fred Lenz - slowly lifting off of a sofa and flying around above the sand for a little while - out in the middle of the Anza Borrego desert in the the middle of the night in front of 200 drug-crazed hippies, is up there in the top 10 all-time flying stories. Go figure./
[FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
You're aware that the rate of illegal voting is down in the double digits for teh entire country, right? In other words, there's less than 100 cases (probably far less) o f illegal voting documented. This could sway an incredibly close eletion at the national level, but would require advanced knowledge that the vote would be within a hundred votes or so in Florida. For any predictable result, there's no chance that the illegal voting has swayed any election more important than dog catcher, and that is being optimistic. IOW, you've traveled far into wingnut territory. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Democrats are desperate for more illegal immigrants that will eventually vote for them. These undocumented Democrats will sway close races in their favor and eventually cause Major states to go Blue. This will be a great Victory for the Democrats, unfortunately not for America as it continues to grow the entitlement society we are becoming.
[FairfieldLife] Re: more wildlife: deer and bat, and fox
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The bat photo-bombed the deer, and I figured out it is *the fox*, who roams inside the fence, sometimes. I just love the pattern of the bat's wings and you can see its head silhouette as well. The fox is gloriously sleek.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Questions for Sal
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Mr. Salyavin, here is a BBC news bit: The number of centenarians in the UK has more than quadrupled in the past 30 years, according to new figures. The Office for National Statistics said a record 13,780 people who had reached the age of 100 were alive in 2013 - compared with 3,040 in 1983. Last year, 710 of the centenarians were estimated to be 105 or older, the figures show. Now how could this be? I mean after all, we are talking about Scorpion-land - the one country amongst all the nasty governments and cultures on earth that Marshy singled out as being so un-redeemable he ordered his sattva soldiers to exit en masse and never come back (til he lifted the ban). So what could be causing this life extension in Scorpion-land? Could it be that when the TM'ers returned to Scorpion-land they brought so much sattva with them it gave more life to these codgers? Could it be that the renegade TM'ers are teaching so many people that it is renegade TM that is doing the good deed? Or is it p'raps the renegade TM governors are teaching a spiffier brand, a more effective brand of TMSP that has a much greater renegade Marshy Effect on Merrye Olde Englande? I think the NHS should undertake an in depth study of the situation. Each and every one of these old geezers need to be interviewed and studied. Do they do TM? Did they ever? Do their grands and great grands do TM or TMSP? Are most of them clustered around Skelmersdale and Rendlesham? Or could it be that a pint and a fight really DOES make a great British night! So each of them should be asked how often in their lives they indulged in a pint and a fight, and also if they ate ayurvedically or if steak and kidney pudd is their fancy. What's your take on it? That's the health service for you! Simple as that. We get looked after better than most I'll wager, including diet and lifestyle advice from doctors. Shame we can't afford it really, but we'll happily all pay a bit more tax to support it I'm sure. I hear Obama's attempt at national health hasn't gone all that well. Don't know whether TMers are outliving the general population, that would be an interesting statistic but there aren't enough of them to do a survey that might be significant. Codgers is a fine English word, surprised and happy that it lives on over there!
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Questions for Sal
Can someone pull that TM drip out Michael's vein. Please! The guy has got to learn to view the world through something other than this TM lens. God save the queen! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Mr. Salyavin, here is a BBC news bit: The number of centenarians in the UK has more than quadrupled in the past 30 years, according to new figures. The Office for National Statistics said a record 13,780 people who had reached the age of 100 were alive in 2013 - compared with 3,040 in 1983. Last year, 710 of the centenarians were estimated to be 105 or older, the figures show. Now how could this be? I mean after all, we are talking about Scorpion-land - the one country amongst all the nasty governments and cultures on earth that Marshy singled out as being so un-redeemable he ordered his sattva soldiers to exit en masse and never come back (til he lifted the ban). So what could be causing this life extension in Scorpion-land? Could it be that when the TM'ers returned to Scorpion-land they brought so much sattva with them it gave more life to these codgers? Could it be that the renegade TM'ers are teaching so many people that it is renegade TM that is doing the good deed? Or is it p'raps the renegade TM governors are teaching a spiffier brand, a more effective brand of TMSP that has a much greater renegade Marshy Effect on Merrye Olde Englande? I think the NHS should undertake an in depth study of the situation. Each and every one of these old geezers need to be interviewed and studied. Do they do TM? Did they ever? Do their grands and great grands do TM or TMSP? Are most of them clustered around Skelmersdale and Rendlesham? Or could it be that a pint and a fight really DOES make a great British night! So each of them should be asked how often in their lives they indulged in a pint and a fight, and also if they ate ayurvedically or if steak and kidney pudd is their fancy. What's your take on it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Chopra vs Dawkins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Some more for the bizzy bees of FFL this fine Saturn Day morning. :-D http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/13/deepak-chopra-richard-dawkins-is-a-bad-scientist-and-his-arrogance-pisses-me-off/ http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/13/deepak-chopra-richard-dawkins-is-a-bad-scientist-and-his-arrogance-pisses-me-off/ Bhairitu, Thanks. This reminds me a lot of the Robert Forman v Steven Katz debates. Forman is Associate Professor at my alma mater. Forman won by a knock-out in the first round. I made a bundle on that one. I hope that DC does resolve his last challenge with this one. Love, Dan
[FairfieldLife] Re: more nyc culture
Another attempt to bring something good to my friends. I understand that the music is being blasted over by the chorus from our own 3 Thugs. Their constant 'rapping about the shit' does drone on and drown out friendly culture. But, what else can you expect from gangsta wannabes? Who love Wrestlers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Wanted to share with my friends: Th3 Shook Ones Fear - Make Music New York Festival 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7ZpiHDwXA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7ZpiHDwXA Th3 Shook Ones Fear - Make Music New York Fe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7ZpiHDwXA I created this video with the YouTube Video Editor (http://www.youtube.com/editor) View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7ZpiHDwXA Preview by Yahoo Maria is the pony-tail. I love their philosophy. Similar to Zappa's
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Woo Woo, was 30th November | Channeled Info from MMY
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 9/9/2014 7:19 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But I'm also convinced there is a good market for things like that because of this girl I knew in the TMO. She had a very elderly and poorly cat and even though I offered to wring its neck she would spend an inordinate amount of money on it including on yagya's! Has the world gone crazy, I wondered, it's bad enough they sell highly expensive prayers to people and claim they are sophisticated and precise Vedic prescriptions to neutralise forthcoming negative trends but to claim it might work on animals is insane. The only trend a fifteen year old cat has to look forward to is a miserable death. Nowt so queer as folk, they say. Help me to understand here. Your planning to wring its neck, which is the sane act vs here crazy act of praying. Now I got it. A few bullies are up late and one or two are up early today. One probably wants to wring my neck for rebutting his crazy Rama myth; and the other informant thinks that you are the crazy one. Go figure. Someone thinks I'm crazy. That's Crazy Talk! Always willing to help those in Need, dr d On 9/8/2014 8:30 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: More brain zapping stuff
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Following up on Salyavin's post about neuroscientists being able to zap brains with blue light to create more positive emotional associations with memories and thus treat PTSD, here's another article showing that this brain-zapping psychiatry stuff now seems to be a trend. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Especially in this case. This is a helmet that supposedly zaps the brains of heavy smokers to help them quit. Great. But I'll bet that once it's approved, it'll wind up costing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for one zap. And the catch is that you have to keep the helmet on or the effect wears off! Meanwhile, all over the world doctors and researchers (including many at the CDC) are refusing to support e-cigarettes, which have been shown to be almost as effective at helping people to quit smoking. The e-cigs cost about $20, they're refillable, and they WORK. And so what are doctors trying to do? Legislate them out of existence so they can sell more expensive solutions. Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ 44% of pack-a-day-plus smokers studied were able to kick the habit with 'shock' treatment, despite past failures View on www.timesofisrael.com http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More brain zapping stuff
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Following up on Salyavin's post about neuroscientists being able to zap brains with blue light to create more positive emotional associations with memories and thus treat PTSD, here's another article showing that this brain-zapping psychiatry stuff now seems to be a trend. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Especially in this case. This is a helmet that supposedly zaps the brains of heavy smokers to help them quit. Great. But I'll bet that once it's approved, it'll wind up costing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for one zap. And the catch is that you have to keep the helmet on or the effect wears off! But the helmets will be available in a number of designer colors to go with your favorite outfits. Some people may purchase several helmets so they don't have to wear the same ones to gala openings and awards ceremonies and thus suffer poor reviews from fashion magazines. Famous designers will hop on the bandwagon and produce their own versions of the helmets -- for example, these are supposedly the matching his and hers headgear proposed by Jean Paul Gaultier: :-) Meanwhile, all over the world doctors and researchers (including many at the CDC) are refusing to support e-cigarettes, which have been shown to be almost as effective at helping people to quit smoking. The e-cigs cost about $20, they're refillable, and they WORK. And so what are doctors trying to do? Legislate them out of existence so they can sell more expensive solutions. Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds 44% of pack-a-day-plus smokers studied were able to kick the habit with 'shock' treatment, despite past failures View on www.timesofisrael.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More brain zapping stuff
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : So what you're saying is; this is actually a photo of the rehab centre at MUM? You can see how happy this guy is now he's quit! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Following up on Salyavin's post about neuroscientists being able to zap brains with blue light to create more positive emotional associations with memories and thus treat PTSD, here's another article showing that this brain-zapping psychiatry stuff now seems to be a trend. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Especially in this case. This is a helmet that supposedly zaps the brains of heavy smokers to help them quit. Great. But I'll bet that once it's approved, it'll wind up costing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for one zap. And the catch is that you have to keep the helmet on or the effect wears off! But the helmets will be available in a number of designer colors to go with your favorite outfits. Some people may purchase several helmets so they don't have to wear the same ones to gala openings and awards ceremonies and thus suffer poor reviews from fashion magazines. Famous designers will hop on the bandwagon and produce their own versions of the helmets -- for example, these are supposedly the matching his and hers headgear proposed by Jean Paul Gaultier: :-) Meanwhile, all over the world doctors and researchers (including many at the CDC) are refusing to support e-cigarettes, which have been shown to be almost as effective at helping people to quit smoking. The e-cigs cost about $20, they're refillable, and they WORK. And so what are doctors trying to do? Legislate them out of existence so they can sell more expensive solutions. Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ 44% of pack-a-day-plus smokers studied were able to kick the habit with 'shock' treatment, despite past failures View on www.timesofisrael.com http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More brain zapping stuff
They aren't going to be happy until everyone is at least half machine. For some reason they don't think of the concept of machines being tools for humans. Why not just do creative visualization of blue light? It's easy to do and doesn't cost anything. Oops, there's the rub, it doesn't make buttloads of money for the crapitalists. You must be digging up material for Charlie Brooker. On 09/01/2014 04:15 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Following up on Salyavin's post about neuroscientists being able to zap brains with blue light to create more positive emotional associations with memories and thus treat PTSD, here's another article showing that this brain-zapping psychiatry stuff now seems to be a trend. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Especially in this case. This is a helmet that supposedly zaps the brains of heavy smokers to help them quit. Great. But I'll bet that once it's approved, it'll wind up costing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for one zap. And the catch is that you have to keep the helmet on or the effect wears off! But the helmets will be available in a number of designer colors to go with your favorite outfits. Some people may purchase several helmets so they don't have to wear the same ones to gala openings and awards ceremonies and thus suffer poor reviews from fashion magazines. Famous designers will hop on the bandwagon and produce their own versions of the helmets -- for example, these are supposedly the matching his and hers headgear proposed by Jean Paul Gaultier: :-) Meanwhile, all over the world doctors and researchers (including many at the CDC) are refusing to support e-cigarettes, which have been shown to be almost as effective at helping people to quit smoking. The e-cigs cost about $20, they're refillable, and they WORK. And so what are doctors trying to do? Legislate them out of existence so they can sell more expensive solutions. Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ image http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ Zapping brain may cure heavy smokers, study finds http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ 44% of pack-a-day-plus smokers studied were able to kick the habit with 'shock' treatment, despite past failures View on www.timesofisrael.com http://www.timesofisrael.com/zapping-brain-may-cure-heavy-smokers-study-finds/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More cool brain stuff...
Robots can sense their environment and respond to it. We do the same, though in a much more complex fashion. A thermostat is a switch, the environment changes, the switch shifts. Add some circuitry that goes to an air conditioner or a heater, you have a very simple neural net. This simple system is conscious of its environment and can respond. The brain is a much more complex version of this principle. I notice that Vedanta sometimes makes a distinction between the word 'consciousness' and 'awareness'. Is it possible to be conscious but not aware? There are many things that go on in the brain of which we are unaware, yet the brain makes decisions and responds to certain inputs nonetheless, indicating it is conscious of those events, but that aspect which we call 'me' is not aware. If the universe is a non-dual unity it would seem to be very difficult to explain consciousness either in terms of spiritual concepts or scientific ones. Spiritual explanations of consciousness and awareness tend to be dualistic as are scientific explanations. If the world is a unity then it makes no sense to say that matter and awareness or consciousness are not the same, just are the same understood from a different perspective. I know of no state where conscious experience is said to be present in the absence of matter, and there is no known state of matter that is known without conscious awareness. Saying consciousness is a field and there is 'stuff' in the field is likewise another dualistic explanation and it does not really explain anything because conscious complex thermostat mechanisms like human beings are necessary to create such an explanation, which requires matter that seems to embody consciousness. Disrupt that mechanism (death) and consciousness behaviour vanishes. All these explanations are 'strategic' explanations in that they guide our minds in the direction of a solution, without providing that solution themselves. Logically they break down somewhere along the line. So are we really saying any useful thing by saying either 'matter with a certain organisation produces consciousness' or that 'consciousness produces an organisation called matter'? These are religious battle lines, and as we have seen by experience, religion does not create much in the way of useful solutions in terms of knowledge, religion creates the pretence of knowledge known as belief. We all know what conscious experience is, but I do not think we know how to define consciousness in a way that makes any functional sense to the thinking mind, even though every thought we have seems to require awareness, consciousness, to exist. Yet many things in this world seem to be devoid of awareness or consciousness, such as a dead human body, even though we, in a conscious state, are necessary to perceive those unaware aspects of the universe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann
I remember the last time the roof got done at my previous place, peering up at the rafters and finding two metal cases full of ammunition, .30-06, and shotgun shells, from the previous owner. VERY pleased it never went off, baking up there, under the shingles - Instant skylight! Quickly turned it in to the police station. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I grew up around people who had guns, but no one with that many, except for one man and he was an antique gun collector. He probably had more than 112, but none of them made after 1940's and most were much older. But yes that is kinda crazy. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I am sure you and Todd Watkins would be best friends, Ann! You see, he is just emphasizing my point -the more guns that surround you the more you feel you have to own and shoot guns. It is a vicious circle and the guy is hopefully an exception with his 112 firearms. It is a kind of crazy, don't you think? http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Arizona shooting: America reacts http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Views from the US following the accidental killing of a shooting range instructor by a child in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I remember the last time the roof got done at my previous place, peering up at the rafters and finding two metal cases full of ammunition, .30-06, and shotgun shells, from the previous owner. VERY pleased it never went off, baking up there, under the shingles - Instant skylight! Quickly turned it in to the police station. That's a bit scary, to think you don't need a person or a gun in order to get hit by a bullet!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I grew up around people who had guns, but no one with that many, except for one man and he was an antique gun collector. He probably had more than 112, but none of them made after 1940's and most were much older. But yes that is kinda crazy. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I am sure you and Todd Watkins would be best friends, Ann! You see, he is just emphasizing my point -the more guns that surround you the more you feel you have to own and shoot guns. It is a vicious circle and the guy is hopefully an exception with his 112 firearms. It is a kind of crazy, don't you think? http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Arizona shooting: America reacts http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Views from the US following the accidental killing of a shooting range instructor by a child in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann
Yep - I don't mind the guns, it's the ammunition that scares me! Speaking of which, I remember visiting Corregidor, an island in the Philippines, where the Japanese finally conquered the country in WWII. This was twenty years later, and we all disembarked from this jetty, while only about 200 feet away sat huge piles of artillery shells, rusting away in the hundred degree heat - If they had gone off, I wouldn't be here. My guardian angels have been kept very busy, this time around! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I remember the last time the roof got done at my previous place, peering up at the rafters and finding two metal cases full of ammunition, .30-06, and shotgun shells, from the previous owner. VERY pleased it never went off, baking up there, under the shingles - Instant skylight! Quickly turned it in to the police station. That's a bit scary, to think you don't need a person or a gun in order to get hit by a bullet!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I grew up around people who had guns, but no one with that many, except for one man and he was an antique gun collector. He probably had more than 112, but none of them made after 1940's and most were much older. But yes that is kinda crazy. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I am sure you and Todd Watkins would be best friends, Ann! You see, he is just emphasizing my point -the more guns that surround you the more you feel you have to own and shoot guns. It is a vicious circle and the guy is hopefully an exception with his 112 firearms. It is a kind of crazy, don't you think? http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Arizona shooting: America reacts http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Views from the US following the accidental killing of a shooting range instructor by a child in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More cool brain stuff...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : With technical accuracy like this, sooner or later they have just got to come up with a practical, testable theory about how consciousness is formed in the brain and how it gives us our sense of us looking out at the world. Consciousness is not formed in the brain, consciousness forms the brain. There is not separate outer/ inner worlds. Ask Dan, Sorta like Dear Abby Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in the brain http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in th... http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html (Medical Xpress)—'You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one,' sang John Lennon in his 1971 song Imagine. View on medicalxpress.com http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More cool brain stuff...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : With technical accuracy like this, sooner or later they have just got to come up with a practical, testable theory about how consciousness is formed in the brain and how it gives us our sense of us looking out at the world. Consciousness is not formed in the brain, consciousness forms the brain. Prove it. Or at least give us an explanation that doesn't depend on you having been told something by someone you like. There is not separate outer/ inner worlds. So why complicate matters by claiming consciousness came first? Occam's razor. Ask Dan, Sorta like Dear Abby Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in the brain http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in th... http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html (Medical Xpress)—'You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one,' sang John Lennon in his 1971 song Imagine. View on medicalxpress.com http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More cool brain stuff...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : With technical accuracy like this, sooner or later they have just got to come up with a practical, testable theory about how consciousness is formed in the brain and how it gives us our sense of us looking out at the world. On 8/28/2014 1:56 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Consciousness is not formed in the brain, consciousness forms the brain. There is ...no evidence for consciousness exists in the physical world. - Sam Harris, Ph.D., Neurophysist http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-mystery-of-consciousness There is not separate outer/ inner worlds. Ask Dan, Sorta like Dear Abby Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in the brain http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html image http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in th... http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html (Medical Xpress)—'You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one,' sang John Lennon in his 1971 song Imagine. View on medicalxpress.com http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More cool brain stuff...
With technical accuracy like this, sooner or later they have just got to come up with a practical, testable theory about how consciousness is formed in the brain and how it gives us our sense of us looking out at the world. Consciousness is not formed in the brain, consciousness forms the brain. On 8/28/2014 2:08 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Prove it. Or at least give us an explanation that doesn't depend on you having been told something by someone you like. Prove that consciousness is physical. There is not separate outer/ inner worlds. So why complicate matters by claiming consciousness came first? Occam's razor. Ken Wilber compares western and eastern ways of thinking about the mind and consciousness. According to Wilber, consciousness is a spectrum.Ordinary awareness is at one end, and more profound types of awareness are found at higher levels. 'The Spectrum of Consciousness' by Ken Wilber pp. 3–16 Ask Dan, Sorta like Dear Abby Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in the brain http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html image http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Neuroscientists watch imagination happening in th... http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html (Medical Xpress)—'You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one,' sang John Lennon in his 1971 song Imagine. View on medicalxpress.com http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-08-neuroscientists-brain.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I am sure you and Todd Watkins would be best friends, Ann! You see, he is just emphasizing my point -the more guns that surround you the more you feel you have to own and shoot guns. It is a vicious circle and the guy is hopefully an exception with his 112 firearms. It is a kind of crazy, don't you think? http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Arizona shooting: America reacts http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Views from the US following the accidental killing of a shooting range instructor by a child in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann
I grew up around people who had guns, but no one with that many, except for one man and he was an antique gun collector. He probably had more than 112, but none of them made after 1940's and most were much older. But yes that is kinda crazy. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More for Ann ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I am sure you and Todd Watkins would be best friends, Ann! You see, he is just emphasizing my point -the more guns that surround you the more you feel you have to own and shoot guns. It is a vicious circle and the guy is hopefully an exception with his 112 firearms. It is a kind of crazy, don't you think? http://www.bbc.com/news/28951806 Arizona shooting: America reacts Views from the US following the accidental killing of a shooting range instructor by a child in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Braco
You can never have enough Braco! I do have a DVD problem actually, my player can't show how much time is remaining on individual chapters, which I always thought was a bit crap for an expensive machine. So I've left my laptop open with Braco staring at it while I watch a movie. Work your magic oh awakened one! A full report in the morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Need your cat healed, or your DVD fixed? Go see Braco, and allow him to gaze upon you. This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 My mom's cat was dying, a woman in a white blouse dotted with holographic silver sequins explains. (I live in a community of healers, she told me earlier, in th... View on gawker.com http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Braco
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com You can never have enough Braco! I do have a DVD problem actually, my player can't show how much time is remaining on individual chapters, which I always thought was a bit crap for an expensive machine. So I've left my laptop open with Braco staring at it while I watch a movie. Work your magic oh awakened one! A full report in the morning. You can never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. I once drove my old Saab 96 up to Santa Barbara to see Maharishi, and parked it near one of the entrances to the apartment complex that served as MIU at the time. When I parked the car, it was gasping, barely able to function. I wasn't sure whether it would start again to get me home. We didn't get to see Maharishi talk, but afterwards he walked through a line of devotees handing him flowers, and right past my car. After the whole shebang was over and I went back to my car, it started the first time, and ran perfectly. Miracle, thought I, in my blissed-out TB state of mind at the time. A few days later, when the miracle wore off and I took the car into the shop, the mechanic explained to me that the problem was due to overheating. Allow the car to cool down, as it had during the time it was parked there in Santa Barbara, and the problem goes away. For a while. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Need your cat healed, or your DVD fixed? Go see Braco, and allow him to gaze upon you. This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women My mom's cat was dying, a woman in a white blouse dotted with holographic silver sequins explains. (I live in a community of healers, she told me earlier, in th... View on gawker.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Yahoo Boohoo
Sure makes for a messy looking post count. Marissa must be trying to kill Groups though techies think she's trying to kill Yahoo so her Google stock is worth more. On 05/11/2014 05:33 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: http://yahoogroups.tumblr.com/post/85163779041/dmarc-related-changes-in-yahoo-groups ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : Anyone notice that the post count now lists more than just the username? And at least on email I'm also seeing the poster's email address in the From on Thunderbird. This has not always been the case and it was noted on another forum that this began at the end of the week.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Yahoo Boohoo
http://yahoogroups.tumblr.com/post/85163779041/dmarc-related-changes-in-yahoo-groups http://yahoogroups.tumblr.com/post/85163779041/dmarc-related-changes-in-yahoo-groups ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : Anyone notice that the post count now lists more than just the username? And at least on email I'm also seeing the poster's email address in the From on Thunderbird. This has not always been the case and it was noted on another forum that this began at the end of the week.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo
That explains why you think you think you are the eh.pee.tomee of lightenmint. You sit on your ass like those pictures of Zen-monks and feel like yer the Buddha. Then you stand up, strut around and proclaim - I'm lightened just by stiiting on my ass. Buddha Dogen says so and I can tell! Ahem ... Better find out how to do mo-chao instead. One minute of sitting - one inch of Buddha. One minute of shitting - one stench of Buddha.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo
On 4/20/2014 7:16 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: That explains why you think you think you are the eh.pee.tomee of lightenmint. You sit on your ass like those pictures of Zen-monks and feel like yer the Buddha. Then you stand up, strut around and proclaim - I'm lightened just by stiiting on my ass. Buddha Dogen says so and I can tell! Ahem ... Better find out how to do mo-chao instead. One minute of sitting - one inch of Buddha. One minute of shitting - one stench of Buddha. In order to understand zen, you must first empty your mind. Prattle. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo
On 4/18/2014 7:39 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Yep ... the practice is the end-all of it all. Why it's just sittin' on my ass looking oh-so-lightened. Ca..., Can..., Can't you all see my aura? It's not that complicated. All you have to do is sit, and be aware of being aware. According to the Soto Zen Master Dogen, this just sitting and being aware IS the enlightened state. Your cup is too full - first you must empty your cup before you can understand emptiness. In reality, there is no thought, no flow of thought, no not flow of thought; thoughts and things do not go anywhere, and they don't move. If you observe your own thoughts by just being aware, you will find that they are insubstantial, like a mirage, an illusion, horns on a hare. That's all you need to know about enlightenment. Read more: 'The Three Pillars of Zen' Teaching, Practice and Enlightenment By Phillip Kapleau Anchor Books, 1989 p. 178 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo
You are already awareness itself and don't require some kind of awareness of awareness. This attempt to locate a self-reflexive awareness is just a mental simulation of what it might be like. A confused one at that. No wonder you are so confused. You'd be better giving up this delusive taza for some mo-chao. Read it weep.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo
On 4/19/2014 6:28 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: You are already awareness itself and don't require some kind of awareness of awareness. This attempt to locate a self-reflexive awareness is just a mental simulation of what it might be like. A confused one at that. No wonder you are so confused. You'd be better giving up this delusive taza for some mo-chao. Read it weep. In Dogen's Zen practice, the primary realization is the *oneness* of practice-enlightenment. The practice of zazen and the experience of enlightenment are one and the same - there is no difference - no duality. Dogen is most often referring specifically to shikantaza, roughly translatable as nothing but precisely sitting, which is a kind of sitting meditation in which the meditator sits in a state of brightly alert attention that is free of thoughts, directed to no object, and attached to no particular content. For Dogen, the practice of zazen and the experience of enlightenment were one and the same. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo
Great refutation of Chan Master Sheng-Yen and his teaching about Mo-Chao. I'm practicing lighten-mint - can't you see? I'm the very eh-pee-tomee of it. Yep ... the practice is the end-all of it all. Why it's just sittin' on my ass looking oh-so-lightened. Ca..., Can..., Can't you all see my aura?
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India --
Since when did India and not Being become home of all knowledge ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Modern India, home of all knowledge and the Va-Va-Voom Vedas, has a problem with over 50% of its population just shitting in the streets, so they commissioned this Public Service Announcement to turn things around. Somehow I don't think dancing poo is quite gonna do it. India Has A Problem With People Sh*tting In Public, So They Made A PSA - Digg http://digg.com/video/india-has-a-problem-with-people-sh-tting-in-public-so-they-made-a-psa India Has A Problem With People Sh*tting In Public, ... http://digg.com/video/india-has-a-problem-with-people-sh-tting-in-public-so-they-made-a-psa Yup, apparently over half the population in India just craps right out in the open and we're pretty sure a video of dancing poops isn't going to help. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/india-has-a-problem-with-people-sh-tting-in-public-so-they-made-a-psa Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India --
It's all about Judy - it probably really has nothing to do with living conditions in India. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Since when did India and not Being become home of all knowledge ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Modern India, home of all knowledge and the Va-Va-Voom Vedas, has a problem with over 50% of its population just shitting in the streets, so they commissioned this Public Service Announcement to turn things around. Somehow I don't think dancing poo is quite gonna do it. India Has A Problem With People Sh*tting In Public, So They Made A PSA - Digg http://digg.com/video/india-has-a-problem-with-people-sh-tting-in-public-so-they-made-a-psa India Has A Problem With People Sh*tting In Public, ... http://digg.com/video/india-has-a-problem-with-people-sh-tting-in-public-so-they-made-a-psa Yup, apparently over half the population in India just craps right out in the open and we're pretty sure a video of dancing poops isn't going to help. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/india-has-a-problem-with-people-sh-tting-in-public-so-they-made-a-psa Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
salyavin, what I'm wondering is how many FFL guys are gonna be carrying a tampon in their pocket the next time they go on a hike?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
I'm sure as hell going to add a box to my bunker while I wait for the end of civilisation! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, what I'm wondering is how many FFL guys are gonna be carrying a tampon in their pocket the next time they go on a hike?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
Bumper sticker of the day: Real Men Carry Tampons (-: On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:44 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'm sure as hell going to add a box to my bunker while I wait for the end of civilisation! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, what I'm wondering is how many FFL guys are gonna be carrying a tampon in their pocket the next time they go on a hike?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Bumper sticker of the day: Real Men Carry Tampons (-: Let's hope in their hand. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:44 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'm sure as hell going to add a box to my bunker while I wait for the end of civilisation! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, what I'm wondering is how many FFL guys are gonna be carrying a tampon in their pocket the next time they go on a hike?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
There are endless topics over at www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com I thought this place could need a few new topics as most here seems tired of the Turq bringing forward the same old issues he has been going on and on about for years. He is insulting the readers of FFL by imagining that they are as traumatized by dementia as he seems to be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Useful Tips
Thanks, Nablusoss for reference to the website which looks useful. I admit I was a little concerned that you were unstressing on women as a result of the 9 Days of Mother Divine (-: On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:27 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Bumper sticker of the day: Real Men Carry Tampons (-: Let's hope in their hand. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:44 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'm sure as hell going to add a box to my bunker while I wait for the end of civilisation! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, what I'm wondering is how many FFL guys are gonna be carrying a tampon in their pocket the next time they go on a hike?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 5:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Erm, what sort of search terms are you using to find us this stuff Nabby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 10 Survival Tips Using Tampons http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/04/10-survival-tips-using-tampons.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More About Badrinath
It's a very nice place to visit. However, I became very sick a couple days later. It started with the Delhi-belly but got much worse, some kind of virus which put me in a bed for about a week. After coming home, I thought about the foolish things I did there, like bathing in the hot spring before going for Puja in Badrinath. I realized people were coming from all over India and elsewhere to pray for healing of all kinds of disease and were bathing in the same hot spring I was in and in fairly close proximity. God knows what kind of viruses and bacteria were floating in that warm water that everybody was dipping in! On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:02 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Char-dhama - Badrinath http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/features/08-12/features2552.htm The image of Shri Badri Narayana at Badrika, Himalayas, India, which lies on the right bank of the river Alaknanda, is fashioned out of a Saligram stone. Shri Badri Narayana is seated under the badari tree, flanked by Kubera and Garuda, Narada, Narayana and Nara. Lord Badri Narayan is armed with Conch and Chakra in two arms in a lifted posture and two more arms rested on the lap in Yoga Mudra. There is also a shrine to Adi Shankara, and the procedures of daily poojas and rituals are supposed to have been prescribed by Adi Sankara. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: My Journey to India 2011 - Badarikashrama - The Mountain Home of God At holy places you don’t have to wait for miracles – they are all around you. Diaries by Sacinandana Swami: http://www.sacinandanaswami.com/en/s1a23/diaries-by-sacinandana-swami/my-journey-to-india-2011-badarikashrama-the-mountain-home-of-god.html On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A broad stairway leads up to a tall arched gateway, which is the main entrance. The architecture resembles a Buddhist vihara (temple), with the brightly painted facade also more typical of Buddhism temples. The main shrine houses the 1 m (3.3 ft) Shaligram (black stone) image of Badrinarayan, housed in a gold canopy, under a Badri Tree. The image of Badari Narayan is armed with Shankh (conch) and Chakra (wheel) in two of his arms in a lifted posture and two arms rested on the lap in Yogamudra posture. Vishnu in the form of Badrinath, is depicted in the temple sitting in padmasana posture. According to the legend, Vishnu was chastised by a sage who saw Vishnu's consort Lakshmi massaging his feet. Vishnu went to Badrinath to perform austerity, meditating for a long time in padmasana. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath_temple
[FairfieldLife] Re: More About Badrinath
Char-dhama - Badrinath [image: Inline image 1] http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/features/08-12/features2552.htm The image of Shri Badri Narayana at Badrika, Himalayas, India, which lies on the right bank of the river Alaknanda, is fashioned out of a Saligram stone. Shri Badri Narayana is seated under the badari tree, flanked by Kubera and Garuda, Narada, Narayana and Nara. Lord Badri Narayan is armed with Conch and Chakra in two arms in a lifted posture and two more arms rested on the lap in Yoga Mudra. There is also a shrine to Adi Shankara, and the procedures of daily poojas and rituals are supposed to have been prescribed by Adi Sankara. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: My Journey to India 2011 - Badarikashrama - The Mountain Home of God [image: Inline image 1] At holy places you don't have to wait for miracles - they are all around you. Diaries by Sacinandana Swami: http://www.sacinandanaswami.com/my-journey-to-india/http://www.sacinandanaswami.com/en/s1a23/diaries-by-sacinandana-swami/my-journey-to-india-2011-badarikashrama-the-mountain-home-of-god.html On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: A broad stairway leads up to a tall arched gateway, which is the main entrance. The architecture resembles a Buddhist vihara (temple), with the brightly painted facade also more typical of Buddhism temples. [image: Inline image 1] The main shrine houses the 1 m (3.3 ft) Shaligram (black stone) image of Badrinarayan, housed in a gold canopy, under a Badri Tree. The image of Badari Narayan is armed with Shankh (conch) and Chakra (wheel) in two of his arms in a lifted posture and two arms rested on the lap in Yogamudra posture. Vishnu in the form of Badrinath, is depicted in the temple sitting in padmasana posture. According to the legend, Vishnu was chastised by a sage who saw Vishnu's consort Lakshmi massaging his feet. Vishnu went to Badrinath to perform austerity, meditating for a long time in padmasana. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath_temple
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
Aww come on, you know better than that - King Tony, Bevan and the boys get a cut. On Fri, 2/14/14, geezerfr...@yahoo.com geezerfr...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 6:07 AM Why ask me Richard? Ask the Srivastava/Varma clan. They have it ... ALL of it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
I feel it is highly worthwhile to see the pundit project through to its end. Okay tell me where the end is? We have had TMSP group practice since 1975 if you count the first few 6 month courses and I don't see any substantial change in the world's atmosphere, in fact the world is in much worse shape now than before Marshy started making promises. So where and when does the pundit project end? On Fri, 2/14/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 1:09 AM What a bunch of ninnies. The pundit project is scientific research in consciousness. Based on experience observation we got hypothesis and testing going on. Have some fucking patience for the scientific process. As an investment for peace then science and basic research can take a lot of money. Think what they spend on the engines of war. I feel it is highly worthwhile to see the pundit project through to its end. Damn you and this scurrilous FFL posting too as if it was any fact and newsworthy; all these deceiving anti-science folks and Geezer too for starting this thread too should be strung up by their you-know-whats. The lack of respect for professionalism here is appalling and so unfair. It pisses me off when posting on FFL has to descend to this level. The transcending meditative state: A unitive experience that is within the human ontology. It is awesome. The Unified Field. It should not be discounted that It is true. All we are saying is let's give Peace a chance,-U.S. Buck in the Dome More than 30 Indian publications in the US and abroad have retracted the wildly inaccurate article about the Vedic Pandits that they had picked up from a Chicago Indian weekly. Yep, Damned Muck-Rakers. Did not fact check their sources. That is the problem with sensational journalism and the internet.-Buck geezerfreak posts:http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ LEnglish5 writes: Oprah Winfrey did a TV show about Fairfield, and part of that show as about the Vedic Pandits. The living and working conditions could be seen in the TV footage: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video No news article has bothered to do any fact checking on this issue. Certainly, no news article has bothered to link to the Oprah TV footage. . .
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/14/2014 7:19 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: King Tony, Bevan and the boys get a cut. The last time I checked administrators at most schools all get paid a salary. For example, the Chancellor of the the San Antonio College District gets paid $450,00 per year, plus benefits.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/14/2014 9:17 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: So where and when does the pundit project end? It is doubtful that the pundit project will end anytime soon. In India there are thousands of students attending MMY schools in India learning how to be pundits. From what I've read in the Indian press, the TMO is currently training thousands of pundits at Noida, at the Brahmastan of India and at numerous Maharishi Vidya Mandirs all over the Punjab and Goa. Apparently, MMY was one of the few people interested in establishing the ancient art of Sanskrit recitation. According to The Times of India, there are over 10,000 pundit students at Maharishi schools in India, all learning how to recite the Vedas, while at the same time learning a secular trade. It seems that MMY was almost single-handedly reviving the lost art of punditry in India. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/13/2014 9:01 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: He just says shit and we have been advised not to take him seriously. So, who are these missing pundit boys? And, where are they hiding? This shouldn't be very difficult to figure out, since they all presumably have names, passports, photo ID cards, green cards and work permits and Dome Badges. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/13/2014 9:51 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: When did Bevan Morris, John Hagelin, Neal Patterson, Greg Wilson, King Tony Nader et al become Indians? The entire TMO is owned by Indians. There are no missing pundit boys in Vedic City.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/13/2014 9:52 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Hagelin and Goldstein have both said there are 5% who are missing. According to my insider sources, there are about 5% of the older pundit boys that came from Kerala that cannot read or write any Sanskrit and cannot recite from memory a single phrase other than the bija mantra they were given with the TM instruction. These men were given plane tickets back to India where they got jobs doing computer IT work in Kerala. There are no missing pundit boys in Vedic City. Go figure. FYI: A pundit in India must be able to recite the Vedas from memory in a prescribed ritual based on prescriptions laid down in the Samhita for the Agnihotra. Some pundits can also read, write, and understand Sanskrit and they are permitted to place the designation 'shastri' after their name. Some pundits also hold additional degrees such as M.A., Ph.D., etc. In addition, some pundits become priests or swamis, and lead millions of Hindus all over the world.
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On 2/13/2014 10:41 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: When did Bevan Morris, John Hagelin, Neal Patterson, Greg Wilson, King Tony Nader et al become Indians? Touche MJ. From what I've read, the TMO is owned by Girish and the Srivastava boys - all Indians. All the money collected from all over the world including MUM goes to the Sri Brahmananda Trust which is run by the SRM of India, at Noida.
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On 2/14/2014 1:04 AM, salyavin808 wrote: I had a girlfriend who suffered from monthly migraines The substance serotonin has been shown in scientific studies to be connected with alterations of mood in the human brain. For example, serotonin reuptake inhibitors are factors in the condition called migraines, that is, acute or chronic headache. Since serotonin occurs naturally it has been difficult to regulate. But, with basic TM the practice some people are able to alter some physiological functions in the human body, such as the chemical serotonin.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/14/2014 1:28 AM, salyavin808 wrote: keeping them away from home and chanting Get a grip - most of the Indian pundits are grown up men who left home years ago - some are even orphans. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/14/2014 1:28 AM, salyavin808 wrote: keeping them away from home and chanting Get a grip - most of the Indian pundits are grown up men who left home years ago - some are even orphans. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
On 2/14/2014 11:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... So, you don't want to talk anymore about the missing pundit boys? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
I never did want to talk about missing pundits, that was you diverting the topic by deliberately answering the wrong question to avoid having to deal with the uncomfortable facts. Namely that yagya's are a crock of shit and the TMO is keeping a bunch of kids in a dorm 24/7 chanting to the gods so they can charge the true believers for prayers in the vain hope of making their lives better. The Fairfielders also get a smug sense of satisfaction that they are doing all they can to save the world, the TMO makes a fortune and the pundits get to waste their lives for zilch. Some day the TMO will limp out of the stone age. But not while there's money to be made. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/14/2014 11:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... So, you don't want to talk anymore about the missing pundit boys? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
I don't think its kool-aid - I have heard they make bad 'shine down in some parts of Texas - he seems to have some brain cells missing On Fri, 2/14/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 5:14 PM Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/14/2014 1:28 AM, salyavin808 wrote: keeping them away from home and chanting Get a grip - most of the Indian pundits are grown up men who left home years ago - some are even orphans. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
:-)
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Bingo! And there's your answer. It's a family run business.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits
So, why is it that you want to find the missing pundit boys? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: I don't think its kool-aid - I have heard they make bad 'shine down in some parts of Texas - he seems to have some brain cells missing On Fri, 2/14/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 14, 2014, 5:14 PM Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/14/2014 1:28 AM, salyavin808 wrote: keeping them away from home and chanting Get a grip - most of the Indian pundits are grown up men who left home years ago - some are even orphans. Go figure.
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I never did want to talk about missing pundits So, you don't have any more information on the missing pundit boys? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: I never did want to talk about missing pundits, that was you diverting the topic by deliberately answering the wrong question to avoid having to deal with the uncomfortable facts. Namely that yagya's are a crock of shit and the TMO is keeping a bunch of kids in a dorm 24/7 chanting to the gods so they can charge the true believers for prayers in the vain hope of making their lives better. The Fairfielders also get a smug sense of satisfaction that they are doing all they can to save the world, the TMO makes a fortune and the pundits get to waste their lives for zilch. Some day the TMO will limp out of the stone age. But not while there's money to be made. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/14/2014 11:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... So, you don't want to talk anymore about the missing pundit boys? Go figure.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: So, you don't have any more information on the missing pundit boys? Not really, but to hazard a guess they're probably working on the sly, making a bit of money for a change. Meeting some people from the real world and having a laugh. Good luck to them. I never did want to talk about missing pundits So, you don't have any more information on the missing pundit boys? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:27 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I never did want to talk about missing pundits, that was you diverting the topic by deliberately answering the wrong question to avoid having to deal with the uncomfortable facts. Namely that yagya's are a crock of shit and the TMO is keeping a bunch of kids in a dorm 24/7 chanting to the gods so they can charge the true believers for prayers in the vain hope of making their lives better. The Fairfielders also get a smug sense of satisfaction that they are doing all they can to save the world, the TMO makes a fortune and the pundits get to waste their lives for zilch. Some day the TMO will limp out of the stone age. But not while there's money to be made. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/14/2014 11:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Keep chugging that kool-aid Tricky... So, you don't want to talk anymore about the missing pundit boys? Go figure.
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Yep, Damned Muck-Rakers. Did not fact check their sources. That is the problem with sensational journalism and the internet. -Buck geezerfreak posts: http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ LEnglish5 writes: Oprah Winfrey did a TV show about Fairfield, and part of that show as about the Vedic Pandits. The living and working conditions could be seen in the TV footage: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video No news article has bothered to do any fact checking on this issue. Certainly, no news article has bothered to link to the Oprah TV footage. . .
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that's not what it says you head in the sand ostritch On Thu, 2/13/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014, 12:41 PM Yep, Damned Muck-Rakers. Did not fact check their sources. That is the problem with sensational journalism and the internet. -Buck geezerfreak posts:http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ LEnglish5 writes: Oprah Winfrey did a TV show about Fairfield, and part of that show as about the Vedic Pandits. The living and working conditions could be seen in the TV footage: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video No news article has bothered to do any fact checking on this issue. Certainly, no news article has bothered to link to the Oprah TV footage. . .
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I wonder why no one in the press questions the purpose of keeping these people in Iowa? The TMO don't seem very forthcoming in the article, are they embarrassed at importing people to pray for them? We know the raja's have yagya's performed for them on a daily basis to neutralise any negative planetary influences, as does the whole country - if they pay enough. The UK coughs up a lot for personal help from the gods too, I know people with a monthly direct debit to support this. No mention is made of when it will be decided to have been a failure, but then I don't remember there being any parameters for success set out other than Marshy's: Give me a billion dollars and I'll save the world... And quite why this has to be tax free considering the amount they charge TMers for the privilege of getting the gods to sway events in their favour is also beyond me. Maybe if the TMO cared about their welfare they would pay them to go to university and do something useful with their lives instead of sitting on their backsides all day singing songs so the wealthy can feel like they've got some of the age of enlightenment they were promised so long ago. But wait, maybe they are here as part of the TMOs commitment to science, think of what the knowledge of the existence of vedic gods would do to our understanding of the universe if the thorough and credible scientists at MUM had proof that chanting old poems could actually change the flow of world events! That must be it, I even had an admission from Fred Travis when he popped up on TM-Free agreeing with me that if a supposedly science based outfit like the TMO were going to claim veracity for all products they charge money for, they should at least do some research to make sure it actually works. Perhaps he took that to heart and is hard at work analysing world trends and will soon produce a stunning paper along the lines of Praying to Soma: an interdisciplinary study of how ancient gods affect global consciousness and the 10 years of brutal war in the middle east since the yagya programme started. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: that's not what it says you head in the sand ostritch On Thu, 2/13/14, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014, 12:41 PM Yep, Damned Muck-Rakers. Did not fact check their sources. That is the problem with sensational journalism and the internet. -Buck geezerfreak posts:http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ LEnglish5 writes: Oprah Winfrey did a TV show about Fairfield, and part of that show as about the Vedic Pandits. The living and working conditions could be seen in the TV footage: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video No news article has bothered to do any fact checking on this issue. Certainly, no news article has bothered to link to the Oprah TV footage. . .
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Sal, you are in rare form today! And just when I thought I couldn't learn anything more about the Movement, here you enlighten me! I had no idea the rajas had yagyas done for them. What a bunch of crap. It is one of those dichotomies that the TMO never address. What I mean is, if TM is as efficacious as is claimed and if you have the 10,000 times more powerful than TM program the TMSPs, why would you need anything else like yagyas and vastu veds? The TMO makes money off claiming they need donations for getting the pundits here and to Europe to cover their expenses and then the TMO gets money for the pundits doing all these yagyas for whoever. They are literally indentured servants at best. How much of the fees charged for the yagyas do the pundits get? None. On Thu, 2/13/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014, 2:04 PM I wonder why no one in the press questions the purpose of keeping these people in Iowa? The TMO don't seem very forthcoming in the article, are they embarrassed at importing people to pray for them? We know the raja's have yagya's performed for them on a daily basis to neutralise any negative planetary influences, as does the whole country - if they pay enough. The UK coughs up a lot for personal help from the gods too, I know people with a monthly direct debit to support this. No mention is made of when it will be decided to have been a failure, but then I don't remember there being any parameters for success set out other than Marshy's: Give me a billion dollars and I'll save the world... And quite why this has to be tax free considering the amount they charge TMers for the privilege of getting the gods to sway events in their favour is also beyond me. Maybe if the TMO cared about their welfare they would pay them to go to university and do something useful with their lives instead of sitting on their backsides all day singing songs so the wealthy can feel like they've got some of the age of enlightenment they were promised so long ago. But wait, maybe they are here as part of the TMOs commitment to science, think of what the knowledge of the existence of vedic gods would do to our understanding of the universe if the thorough and credible scientists at MUM had proof that chanting old poems could actually change the flow of world events! That must be it, I even had an admission from Fred Travis when he popped up on TM-Free agreeing with me that if a supposedly science based outfit like the TMO were going to claim veracity for all products they charge money for, they should at least do some research to make sure it actually works. Perhaps he took that to heart and is hard at work analysing world trends and will soon produce a stunning paper along the lines of Praying to Soma: an interdisciplinary study of how ancient gods affect global consciousness and the 10 years of brutal war in the middle east since the yagya programme started. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: that's not what it says you head in the sand ostritch On Thu, 2/13/14, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: More on missing pandits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014, 12:41 PM Yep, Damned Muck-Rakers. Did not fact check their sources. That is the problem with sensational journalism and the internet. -Buck geezerfreak posts:http://worldhindunews.com/2014021217951/young-vedic-pandits-go-missing-from-iowa-based-sponsoring-organization-ela-dutt/ LEnglish5 writes: Oprah Winfrey did a TV show about Fairfield, and part of that show as about the Vedic Pandits. The living and working conditions could be seen in the TV footage: http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next-chapter/Oprah-Meets-Iowas-Pandits-Video No news article has bothered to do any fact checking on this issue. Certainly, no news article has bothered to link to the Oprah TV footage. . .
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On 2/13/2014 6:41 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Damned Muck-Rakers. Did not fact check their sources. There are no missing boy pandits in Vedic City and apparently the living quarters are fit for a king with a free education. Go figure.
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On 2/13/2014 6:46 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: that's not what it says you head in the sand ostritch Maybe it's time for you to leave the Hindu pundit boys alone and mind your own business. You don't even know who the pundit boys are. Go figure.
