Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-27 Thread danfriedman2002

 I took the Pulse Diagnosis Coure from MUM online. Boring.

But, perhaps you are right, my mind might have been a little jumpy. There are 
worse things to have.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I'm not hearing anyone talk much about pulse diagnosis these days. That was 
Dr. Triguna's thing. 

 I recall getting a pulse diagnosis from him in India.  I thought he called it 
pretty well.
 

 He said my mind was a little jumpy, or something along those lines.
 

 I would think pulse diagnosis could be tested scientifically.
 

 Say someone had a liver problem. That should be evident in a pulse diagnosis.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 For the record a lot of alternative medicine is very science based.  Only 
the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of university 
research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative 
mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning to catch on and 
learning that the centuries old concepts of the metabolic causes of medicine 
that East Indians and Chinese use have some validity.  Just like one size shoe 
won't fit us all neither does just one medical approach to a problem.
 
 On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their 
panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 
 
 
 
 Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to 
their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick 
cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a 
homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care 
providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people 
go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're 
not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first 
place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.  

 

 

 
 





 
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-27 Thread danfriedman2002

 Rich,

You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on to 
a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of Maharishi: 
A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is stuck]), 
I'll explain myself further.

This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole 
Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term 
used by farmers who know their shit/manure). They show you the difference. 
Organic apples are not unblemished, organic peaches are not unblemished, 
organic,,,get it?

Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting 
time on ffl when the postman delivers.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

   

 But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health Nuts (if the 
name fits, I wear it) or farmstands.
 
 But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift.


 
 We are not big eaters anymore, so it only costs us a few dollars to buy some 
vegetables and some grains at the Whole Foods Market. It's not like we have a 
big family to feed anymore. Sometimes we eat out and that cost more. There is a 
farmer's market a few blocks away from where we live. We went to this place to 
eat some raw food:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects of modern 
medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat only organic foods and try 
to avoid all packaged food. It just makes common sense. Today we went to this 
place to get some bulk grains and organic vegetables:
 
 
 
 Whole Foods, San Antonio
 
 
 On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their 
panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 
 
 
 
 Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to 
their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick 
cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a 
homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care 
providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people 
go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're 
not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first 
place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.  

 

 

 





 





 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-27 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:



Rich,

You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned 
me on to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the 
Teachings of Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, 
the Italics button is stuck]), I'll explain myself further.


This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from 
Whole Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks 
(technical term used by farmers who know their shit/manure).


Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from the farmers 
market just around the corner or from a farm nearby. The best produce 
and most satisfying is the produce you grow in your own back yard. What 
most people don't realize when they purchase food is the /stress and 
heat factor/. All processed food is stressed to a certain extent and/or 
heated. This includes the process and the packaging itself and the 
transportation from the farm. Produce sometimes comes from as far away 
as Mexico and California.


They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, 
organic peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it?


The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food without using a 
harvesting device. Since this is close to impossible for most urban 
dwellers we have to be more flexible and make choices. Locally picked 
fruit and vegetables harvested by hand in your local area would be the 
best choice and imported and processed foods last. The best and most 
satisfying food we ever obtained were apples picked directly from the 
ground which had fallen the same day from fruit trees grown, but even 
then we had to drive to the orchard in a wheeled vehicle.




Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this 
exciting time on ffl when the postman delivers.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:



But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health
Nuts (if the name fits, I wear it) or farmstands.

But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift.


We are not big eaters anymore, so it only costs us a few dollars
to buy some vegetables and some grains at the Whole Foods Market.
It's not like we have a big family to feed anymore. Sometimes we
eat out and that cost more. There is a farmer's market a few
blocks away from where we live. We went to this place to eat some
raw food:







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote :

Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects
of modern medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat
only organic foods and try to avoid all packaged food. It just
makes common sense. Today we went to this place to get some bulk
grains and organic vegetables:



/Whole Foods, San Antonio/



On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense,
was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is
basically a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the
time the term came into use, regular medicine was still pretty
primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'.
Here is an interesting site that deals with various conflicts
found between alternative therapies (which I usually call the
alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice.
Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org




image http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org


Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in
the relationship between science and medicine

View on www.sciencebasedm... http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

Preview by Yahoo

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@...
mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :

I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all
for a number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here
before, so the whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been
there, done that, don't need to do it again vibe to it. Second,
possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term
TMers exhibit. I never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or
any of that stuff, and have managed to remain remarkably healthy
*anyway*, never having to go there and put any attention on my
health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on?

Third, I currently write articles for all 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-27 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

   

 Rich,
 
 You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on 
to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of 
Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is 
stuck]), I'll explain myself further.
 
 This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole 
Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term 
used by farmers who know their shit/manure).

 Our local Hole Foods get's its 'organic produce' from Mexico, Chile et al. 
 Then they claim it is Organic because it has been Crtified Organic in the 
 growing country. The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a 
 lot of organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find it 
 laughable, if you saw the growing conditions.

Then...The Hole Foods Market becomes a magnet for the Nannys, most of whom miss 
their country so come to congregate. They are given a week's shopping list from 
their pretentious employer, and have no idea what these food items are. They 
weave down the isles, strollers plus wagons in tow. Because they would be found 
out otherwise, they are more likely to drop the child than the especial food 
item they are retrieving for the list.

Entertaining though.
 Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from the farmers market 
just around the corner or from a farm nearby. The best produce and most 
satisfying is the produce you grow in your own back yard. What most people 
don't realize when they purchase food is the stress and heat factor. All 
processed food is stressed to a certain extent and/or heated. This includes the 
process and the packaging itself and the transportation from the farm. Produce 
sometimes comes from as far away as Mexico and California.
 
 They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, organic 
peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it?




 
 The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food without using a 
harvesting device. Since this is close to impossible for most urban dwellers we 
have to be more flexible and make choices. Locally picked fruit and vegetables 
harvested by hand in your local area would be the best choice and imported and 
processed foods last. The best and most satisfying food we ever obtained were 
apples picked directly from the ground which had fallen the same day from fruit 
trees grown, but even then we had to drive to the orchard in a wheeled vehicle. 
 
 
 Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting 
time on ffl when the postman delivers.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

   

 But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health Nuts (if the 
name fits, I wear it) or farmstands.
 
 But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift.


 
 We are not big eaters anymore, so it only costs us a few dollars to buy some 
vegetables and some grains at the Whole Foods Market. It's not like we have a 
big family to feed anymore. Sometimes we eat out and that cost more. There is a 
farmer's market a few blocks away from where we live. We went to this place to 
eat some raw food:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects of modern 
medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat only organic foods and try 
to avoid all packaged food. It just makes common sense. Today we went to this 
place to get some bulk grains and organic vegetables:
 
 
 
 Whole Foods, San Antonio
 
 
 On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-27 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 8/27/2014 9:53 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
 
  The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a lot of 
  organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find it laughable, 
  if you saw the growing conditions.
 I feel you with the grains. Used to be their main thing, now it's relegated 
 to a corner in  the basement.

Love that Tamari. 60's!

I just returned fromBuca Brick Oven Pizza. Talk about Iatalian. Waitress is 
Sardinian, serves me a couple of glasses of Trebbiano and a bottle of Morelli 
(I passed on the water). Got thru the Pizza Parmegiana (eggplant melts in your 
mouth) and on to the Tiramisu. 

When I'm passed all that, she takes me around the corner to Arco Cafe, a new 
Sardinian restaurant on Amsterdam. Taste some stuff.
Move on. Need tosave room for dinner.

 We are not overly concerned about the organic certification because we don't 
eat food that would be typically contaminated with fumigants, such as 
strawberries, grapes and peaches or prepared juices, because we eat mostly 
locally grown produce such as lettuce, squash, carrots, and broccoli, that are 
certified organic in the USA by the Organic Trade Association (OTA). What we go 
for mostly at Whole Foods are the bulk whole grains, organic chicken, and a few 
imported condiments such as Shoyu or Tamari. We have found that the organic 
whole grain brown rice grown in Deaf Smith County suits our needs. But, we are 
not real big on carbohydrates anymore anyway - we mostly eat salads and 
vegetable soup and protein drinks we make in a blender. We are pretty big on 
filtered water. Go figure.
 
 However, we do partake of some genuine Tex-Mex dishes at our favorite 
restaurant, but always in moderation. 
 
 http://theorganicpages.com/topo/companylisting.html?CompanyId=7351 
http://theorganicpages.com/topo/companylisting.html?CompanyId=7351
 
 
 
 Dinning with family and friends at Rosario's, San Antonio
 
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

   

 Rich,
 
 You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on 
to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of 
Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is 
stuck]), I'll explain myself further.
 
 This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole 
Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term 
used by farmers who know their shit/manure).

 Our local Hole Foods get's its 'organic produce' from Mexico, Chile et al. 
 Then they claim it is Organic because it has been Crtified Organic in the 
 growing country. The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a 
 lot of organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find it 
 laughable, if you saw the growing conditions.
 
 Then...The Hole Foods Market becomes a magnet for the Nannys, most of whom 
miss their country so come to congregate. They are given a week's shopping list 
from their pretentious employer, and have no idea what these food items are. 
They weave down the isles, strollers plus wagons in tow. Because they would be 
found out otherwise, they are more likely to drop the child than the especial 
food item they are retrieving for the list.
 
 Entertaining though.
 Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from the farmers market 
just around the corner or from a farm nearby. The best produce and most 
satisfying is the produce you grow in your own back yard. What most people 
don't realize when they purchase food is the stress and heat factor. All 
processed food is stressed to a certain extent and/or heated. This includes the 
process and the packaging itself and the transportation from the farm. Produce 
sometimes comes from as far away as Mexico and California.
 
 They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, organic 
peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it?




 
 The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food without using a 
harvesting device. Since this is close to impossible for most urban dwellers we 
have to be more flexible and make choices. Locally picked fruit and vegetables 
harvested by hand in your local area would be the best choice and imported and 
processed foods last. The best and most satisfying food we ever obtained were 
apples picked directly from the ground which had fallen the same day from fruit 
trees grown, but even then we had to drive to the orchard in a wheeled vehicle. 
 
 
 Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting 
time on ffl when the postman delivers.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

   

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-27 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 8/27/2014 3:26 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 8/27/2014 9:53 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

 The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a 


lot of

 organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find 


it laughable,

 if you saw the growing conditions.
I feel you with the grains. Used to be their main thing, now it's
relegated to a corner in  the basement.

Love that Tamari. 60's!



We started out using Kikkoman and then moved up to San-J Tamari but now 
we switched over to the organic San-J Shoyu.





I just returned fromBuca Brick Oven Pizza. Talk about Iatalian.
Waitress is Sardinian, serves me a couple of glasses of Trebbiano
and a bottle of Morelli (I passed on the water). Got thru the
Pizza Parmegiana (eggplant melts in your mouth) and on to the
Tiramisu.

When I'm passed all that, she takes me around the corner to Arco
Cafe, a new Sardinian restaurant on Amsterdam. Taste some stuff.
Move on. Need tosave room for dinner.

We are not overly concerned about the organic certification because we 
don't eat food that would be typically contaminated with fumigants, 
such as strawberries, grapes and peaches or prepared juices, because 
we eat mostly locally grown produce such as lettuce, squash, carrots, 
and broccoli, that are certified organic in the USA by the Organic 
Trade Association (OTA). What we go for mostly at Whole Foods are the 
bulk whole grains, organic chicken, and a few imported condiments such 
as Shoyu or Tamari. We have found that the organic whole grain brown 
rice grown in Deaf Smith County suits our needs. But, we are not real 
big on carbohydrates anymore anyway - we mostly eat salads and 
vegetable soup and protein drinks we make in a blender. We are pretty 
big on filtered water. Go figure.


However, we do partake of some genuine Tex-Mex dishes at our favorite 
restaurant, but always in moderation.


http://theorganicpages.com/topo/companylisting.html?CompanyId=7351



/Dinning with family and friends at Rosario's, San Antonio/







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote :

On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote:



Rich,

You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since
you turned me on to a new TM=related book (Have you read
Reflections on the Teachings of Maharishi: A personal
Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is
stuck]), I'll explain myself further.

This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the
corner from Whole Foods. The word from there is that the
Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term used by farmers who
know their shit/manure).

Our local Hole Foods get's its 'organic produce' from
Mexico, Chile et al. Then they claim it is Organic because
it has been Crtified Organic in the growing country. The
growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a lot
of organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and
find it laughable, if you saw the growing conditions.

Then...The Hole Foods Market becomes a magnet for the Nannys,
most of whom miss their country so come to congregate. They
are given a week's shopping list from their pretentious
employer, and have no idea what these food items are. They
weave down the isles, strollers plus wagons in tow. Because
they would be found out otherwise, they are more likely to
drop the child than the especial food item they are
retrieving for the list.

Entertaining though.
Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from
the farmers market just around the corner or from a farm
nearby. The best produce and most satisfying is the produce
you grow in your own back yard. What most people don't
realize when they purchase food is the /stress and heat
factor/. All processed food is stressed to a certain extent
and/or heated. This includes the process and the packaging
itself and the transportation from the farm. Produce
sometimes comes from as far away as Mexico and California.


They show you the difference. Organic apples are not
unblemished, organic peaches are not unblemished,
organic,,,get it?


The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food
without using a harvesting device. Since this is close to
impossible for most urban dwellers we have to be more
flexible and make choices. Locally picked fruit and
vegetables harvested by hand in your local area would be the
best choice and imported and processed foods last. The best
and most satisfying food we ever 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
For the record a lot of alternative medicine *is* very science based.  
Only the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of 
university research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the 
conservative mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning 
to catch on and learning that the centuries old concepts of the 
metabolic causes of medicine that East Indians and Chinese use have some 
validity.  Just like one size shoe won't fit us all neither does just 
one medical approach to a problem.


On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was 
invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically 
a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time the term came 
into use, regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and probably 
not very effective. Today the term 'evidence-based medicine' is used, 
or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals 
with various conflicts found between alternative therapies (which I 
usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice. 
Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org





image http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org


Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the 
relationship between science and medicine


View on www.sciencebasedm... http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

Preview by Yahoo

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a 
number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the 
whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't 
need to do it again vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from 
the TMO early, I never got infected with that uber-hypochondria that 
so many long-term TMers exhibit. I never got into fad diets or 
mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have managed to remain 
remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and put any 
attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on?


Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the 
health care industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but 
most are just everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or 
chiropractic or some alternative practice or some mainstream specialty 
like cardiovascular medicine. And to a person I don't think any of 
them would disagree with the comments one of them put on the T-shirt 
below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their panties over the 
mention of chiropractic, but that's about it).


Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more 
attention to their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they 
don't. They want a quick cure. And they want it whether it comes 
from a Big Pharma pill or a homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic 
or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care providers -- whoever they are -- 
get pushed into the savior role because people go to them demanding 
the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're not willing 
to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first place, 
so they expect someone else to do it for them.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10170738_10151974954190877_1522489666_n.jpg?oh=74692e375a35b42f8feb970483dd07a8oe=546C092C__gda__=1417619932_50e261c0c9ef425f537203bea722ab7c






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread danfriedman2002
Who's the peanut gallery you are referring to? Are they promoting Peanut 
Cures. My esteemed colleague... George Washington Carver

 Before he invented the 300 uses for peanut butter, peanuts had to be 
discovered. His inventions of the many different crops gave people different 
kinds of food and created new markets for farmers. Who Invented Peanut 
Butter?- George Washington Carver.



Dan, your supported in Peanut Butter Cores (Spread It On!)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 For the record a lot of alternative medicine is very science based.  Only 
the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of university 
research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative 
mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning to catch on and 
learning that the centuries old concepts of the metabolic causes of medicine 
that East Indians and Chinese use have some validity.  Just like one size shoe 
won't fit us all neither does just one medical approach to a problem.
 
 On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their 
panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 
 
 
 
 Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to 
their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick 
cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a 
homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care 
providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people 
go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're 
not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first 
place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.  

 

 

 
 





 
 

  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
According to Eddie Murphy, George Washington Carver almost developed a 
phonograph needle from a peanut, instead got peanut butter. 


On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:40 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
  


  
Who's the peanut gallery you are referring to? Are they promoting Peanut 
Cures. My esteemed colleague...
George Washington Carver
Before he invented the 300 uses for peanut butter, peanuts had to be 
discovered. His inventions of the many different crops gave people 
different kinds of food and created new markets for farmers. Who 
Invented Peanut Butter?- George Washington Carver.
Dan, your supported in Peanut Butter Cores (Spread It On!)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :


For the record a lot of alternative
medicine is very science based.  Only the peanut gallery
seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of university research out
there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative
mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning to
catch on and learning that the centuries old concepts of the
metabolic causes of medicine that East Indians and Chinese use
have some validity.  Just like one size shoe won't fit us all
neither does just one medical approach to a problem.

On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:

 
The
term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory
sense, was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is 
basically a quacks take on regular
medicine, although at the time the term came into use,
regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and
probably not very effective. Today the term
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based
medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals with
various conflicts found between alternative therapies
(which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and
modern medical practice. Science-Based
Medicine

 

   
   Science-Based
Medicine 
Science-Based
Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies
in the relationship between science and
medicine 
 
View on www.sciencebasedm...  Preview by Yahoo  

 
  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :


I've been
staying out of the Alternative Therapies
free-for-all for a number of reasons. First,
it's been done to death here before, so the
whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been
there, done that, don't need to do it again
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed
from the TMO early, I never got infected with
that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I never got into 
fad diets or
mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and
have managed to remain remarkably healthy
*anyway*, never having to go there and put
any attention on my health. I've been lucky
enough to be healthy and stay healthy...what
was there to focus on or obsess on? 



Third, I
currently write articles for all sorts of
people in the health care industry. A few of
them probably work for Big Pharma, but most
are just everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative
practice or some mainstream specialty like
cardiovascular medicine. And to a person I
don't think any of them would disagree with
the comments one of them put on the T-shirt
below (some MDs might get a
bit of a hitch in their panties over the
mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 



Most of them
would LOVE it if their patients would just pay
more attention to their diets and to getting
enough exercise. But they don't. They want a
quick cure. And they want it whether it
comes from a Big Pharma pill or a homeopathic
sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or
an Ayurvedic potion. Health care providers --
whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior
role because people go to them demanding the
quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me!
They're not willing to do the work every day
that keeps them healthy in the first place, so
they expect someone else to do it for them.  






 

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread danfriedman2002
I follow the sage prescriptions of Dr Irwin Corey.

He was able to developed a phonograph needle from a peanut but, regrettably, 
the 8-Track Tape caught him unaware.

He recycled his brilliant invention in to, what is today known, as The Nut Cure.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 According to Eddie Murphy, George Washington Carver almost developed a 
phonograph needle from a peanut, instead got peanut butter.
 


 On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:40 AM, danfriedman2002 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 

   Who's the peanut gallery you are referring to? Are they promoting Peanut 
Cures. My esteemed colleague...
 George Washington Carver

 Before he invented the 300 uses for peanut butter, peanuts had to be 
discovered. His inventions of the many different crops gave people different 
kinds of food and created new markets for farmers. Who Invented Peanut 
Butter?- George Washington Carver.



Dan, your supported in Peanut Butter Cores (Spread It On!)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 For the record a lot of alternative medicine is very science based.  Only 
the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of university 
research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative 
mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning to catch on and 
learning that the centuries old concepts of the metabolic causes of medicine 
that East Indians and Chinese use have some validity.  Just like one size shoe 
won't fit us all neither does just one medical approach to a problem.
 
 On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their 
panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 
 
 
 
 Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to 
their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick 
cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a 
homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care 
providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people 
go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're 
not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first 
place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.  

 

 

 
 





 


  

 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread danfriedman2002

 But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health Nuts (if the 
name fits, I wear it) or farmstands.

But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects of modern 
medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat only organic foods and try 
to avoid all packaged food. It just makes common sense. Today we went to this 
place to get some bulk grains and organic vegetables:
 
 
 
 Whole Foods, San Antonio
 
 
 On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their 
panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 
 
 
 
 Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to 
their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick 
cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a 
homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care 
providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people 
go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're 
not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first 
place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.  

 

 

 
 





 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 8/26/2014 11:15 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


For the record a lot of alternative medicine *is* very science 
based.  Only the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a 
lot of university research out there that hasn't yet been implemented 
by the conservative mainstream science based medicine.  But they're 
beginning to catch on and learning that the centuries old concepts of 
the metabolic causes of medicine that East Indians and Chinese use 
have some validity.  Just like one size shoe won't fit us all neither 
does just one medical approach to a problem.


One of my favorite recipes:

Ingredients:

1. Whole grain organic brown rice.
2. Spring or filtered water.

Directions:

In a stainless steel pot with a copper clad bottom, add 1 cup of washed 
rice and 2 cups of water. Cover. Bring to a boil. Cook on low flame 
until done. Optional: Serve in a bowl. Season to taste with San-J Shoyu 
or Tamari. Set a timer /if needed/ or meditate for twenty minutes.


*Important notes on eating:

*DO NOT REMOVE THE LID BEFORE THE RICE IS COOKED AND TEST IT WITH A 
FORK. DO NOT EAT THE RICE RAW WITHOUT COOKING FIRST. DO NOT EAT THE RICE 
ON A FULL STOMACH.  DO NOT WATCH TV WHILE EATING OR RECLINING ON A SOFA. 
FOR BEST EFFECT, TRY TO SIT UP EITHER IN A CHAIR AND AT A TABLE . EAT 
THE RICE SLOWLY WHILE GAZING LOVINGLY AT YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER (if you 
have one), OTHERWISE, YOU MAY REPEAT Nyum nyum nyum IN A MODERATE TONE 
OF VOICE WHILE FEELING YOUR BODY AS A WHOLE. DO NOT VISUALIZE YOUR MOUTH 
AS JUST A CUP CAKE HOLE. BE AWARE OF EATING. ENJOY.




On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was 
invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically 
a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time the term came 
into use, regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and probably 
not very effective. Today the term 'evidence-based medicine' is used, 
or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals 
with various conflicts found between alternative therapies (which I 
usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org





image http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org


Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the 
relationship between science and medicine


View on www.sciencebasedm... http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

Preview by Yahoo

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a 
number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the 
whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't 
need to do it again vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed 
from the TMO early, I never got infected with that uber-hypochondria 
that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I never got into fad diets or 
mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have managed to remain 
remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and put any 
attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on?


Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the 
health care industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but 
most are just everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or 
chiropractic or some alternative practice or some mainstream 
specialty like cardiovascular medicine. And to a person I don't think 
any of them would disagree with the comments one of them put on the 
T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their panties 
over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it).


Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more 
attention to their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they 
don't. They want a quick cure. And they want it whether it comes 
from a Big Pharma pill or a homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic 
or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care providers -- whoever they are -- 
get pushed into the savior role because people go to them demanding 
the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're not willing 
to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first place, 
so they expect someone else to do it for them.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10170738_10151974954190877_1522489666_n.jpg?oh=74692e375a35b42f8feb970483dd07a8oe=546C092C__gda__=1417619932_50e261c0c9ef425f537203bea722ab7c








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm not hearing anyone talk much about pulse diagnosis these days. That was Dr. 
Triguna's thing. 

 I recall getting a pulse diagnosis from him in India.  I thought he called it 
pretty well.
 

 He said my mind was a little jumpy, or something along those lines.
 

 I would think pulse diagnosis could be tested scientifically.
 

 Say someone had a liver problem. That should be evident in a pulse diagnosis.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 For the record a lot of alternative medicine is very science based.  Only 
the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of university 
research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative 
mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning to catch on and 
learning that the centuries old concepts of the metabolic causes of medicine 
that East Indians and Chinese use have some validity.  Just like one size shoe 
won't fit us all neither does just one medical approach to a problem.
 
 On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their 
panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). 
 
 
 
 Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to 
their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick 
cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a 
homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care 
providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people 
go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're 
not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first 
place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.  

 

 

 
 





 
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

That kind of diagnosis is generally done by feeling the subdosha pulses.

On 08/26/2014 06:24 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I'm not hearing anyone talk much about pulse diagnosis these days. 
That was Dr. Triguna's thing.



I recall getting a pulse diagnosis from him in India.  I thought he 
called it pretty well.


He said my mind was a little jumpy, or something along those lines.

I would think pulse diagnosis could be tested scientifically.

Say someone had a liver problem. That should be evident in a pulse 
diagnosis.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

For the record a lot of alternative medicine *is* very science 
based.  Only the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a 
lot of university research out there that hasn't yet been implemented 
by the conservative mainstream science based medicine.  But they're 
beginning to catch on and learning that the centuries old concepts of 
the metabolic causes of medicine that East Indians and Chinese use 
have some validity.  Just like one size shoe won't fit us all neither 
does just one medical approach to a problem.


On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense,
was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is
basically a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time
the term came into use, regular medicine was still pretty
primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'.
Here is an interesting site that deals with various conflicts
found between alternative therapies (which I usually call the
alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice.
Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org




image http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org


Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org
Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the
relationship between science and medicine

View on www.sciencebasedm... http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org

Preview by Yahoo

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@...
mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :

I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all
for a number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here
before, so the whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been
there, done that, don't need to do it again vibe to it. Second,
possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers
exhibit. I never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of
that stuff, and have managed to remain remarkably healthy
*anyway*, never having to go there and put any attention on my
health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on?

Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the
health care industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma,
but most are just everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine
or chiropractic or some alternative practice or some mainstream
specialty like cardiovascular medicine. And to a person I don't
think any of them would disagree with the comments one of them
put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in
their panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about
it).

Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more
attention to their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they
don't. They want a quick cure. And they want it whether it
comes from a Big Pharma pill or a homeopathic sugar pill or a
Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care providers --
whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because
people go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure
me, cure me! They're not willing to do the work every day that
keeps them healthy in the first place, so they expect someone
else to do it for them.










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria

2014-08-26 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
IN fact, Triguna's  son took my pulse a few months after *I* had Hepatitus (got 
it from MY son who got it at daycare) and commented I had heat in my liver 
system. 

 By the way, pulse diagnosis is part of the Maharish School curriculum. All the 
students practice it every day.
 

 And I believe it is taught in as part of the pre-med curriculum at MUM, but 
not sure.
 

 

 Interesting thing I just found out. Prodence Farrow, Mia Farrow's sister, has 
a PhD in Sanskrit from Berkley, and her PhD thesis was doing a translation and 
analysis of the 5 or 6 main Ayurvedic texts on pulse diagnosis. It's for sale 
through Amazon.com under her married name, Prudence Bruns:
 

 Nadivijnana: The Crest-Jewel of Ayurveda: A Translation of Six Central Texts 
and an Examination of the Sources, Influence and Development of Indian 
Pulse-Diagnosis 
http://www.amazon.com/Nadivijnana-Crest-Jewel-Translation-Examination-Pulse-Diagnosis/dp/3639306732/ref=la_B004ETKH74_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1409113390sr=1-1
 
 
 
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 Nadivijnana: The Crest-Jewel of Ayurveda: A Translation ... 
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 Nadivijnana: The Crest-Jewel of Ayurveda: A Translation of Six Central Texts 
and an Examination of the Sources, Influence and Development of Indian P...
 
 
 
 View on www.amazon... 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


 

  


 

 NOT quite what we heard from Maharishi, some of it.
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I'm not hearing anyone talk much about pulse diagnosis these days. That was 
Dr. Triguna's thing. 

 I recall getting a pulse diagnosis from him in India.  I thought he called it 
pretty well.
 

 He said my mind was a little jumpy, or something along those lines.
 

 I would think pulse diagnosis could be tested scientifically.
 

 Say someone had a liver problem. That should be evident in a pulse diagnosis.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 For the record a lot of alternative medicine is very science based.  Only 
the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't.  There's a lot of university 
research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative 
mainstream science based medicine.  But they're beginning to catch on and 
learning that the centuries old concepts of the metabolic causes of medicine 
that East Indians and Chinese use have some validity.  Just like one size shoe 
won't fit us all neither does just one medical approach to a problem.
 
 On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented 
by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on 
regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine 
was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 
'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an 
interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative 
therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical 
practice. Science-Based Medicine
 
 
 
 
 Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and 
controversies in the relationship between science and medicine


 
 View on www.sciencebasedm... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number 
of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux 
outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again 
vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got 
infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I 
never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have 
managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and 
put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay 
healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? 
 
 
 
 Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care 
industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just 
everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some 
alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. 
And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one 
of them put on the T-shirt below 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO

2008-07-27 Thread Vaj

On Jul 27, 2008, at 1:31 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:

 If Girish's website that he started a week or so is to be believed,
 he is just as or more into teaching Indians yoga as he is in teaching
 them TM.

 TM has been lost on the wayside.

Then it would no longer be consciousness-based if that were the  
case. I doubt we'll see TM left by the wayside, but I wouldn't be  
surprised if it was sold more reasonably in India as an intro to other  
services they sell, a gateway drug, if you will. India is the perfect  
place to sell this brand of Vedic creation science and American and  
Europeans the perfect suckers to provide the venture capital.


RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO

2008-07-27 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:32 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO

 

If Girish's website that he started a week or so is to be believed, 
he is just as or more into teaching Indians yoga as he is in teaching 
them TM.

What's the link to Girish's website?

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawsuit - TMO vs. Scozzari

2006-02-06 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/5/06 3:35:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I 
  see happening, within five years of MMY'sdeath, is that the TMO will come 
  running to thevery teachers it dispossessed during the "recertpurge," 
  begging them for financial support to help "preserve Maharishi's 
  legacy." I hope that their requests are met with gales of 
  laughter.

Five years? Why so long?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawsuit - TMO vs. Scozzari

2006-02-05 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/5/06 1:04:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am 
  teaching TM outside the TMO - and some of the people has been in contact 
  with the TMO before they contact me. They do not care about MMY or the TMO 
  - they just want to learn Transcendental Meditation for some reason or 
  another. An experienced TM-Teacher with a solid background in teaching, 
  counts more than re-cert- teachers. And when women are denied to learn 
  because the one recert. lady TM-Teacher is not available - what to do? 
  They are seeking up Independent teachers - thinking that the TMO is weird. 
  Ingegerd

Exactly Ingegerd! I couldn't agree with you 
more.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawsuit - TMO vs. Scozzari

2006-02-04 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/4/06 2:33:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why not 
  do the same with McDonald's Hamburgers then? 

I think it is done to some degree or another. One corner has 
Mickey d's and down the street you'll have Jack in the Box or some other 
franchise. One corner offers Shell Gasoline the corner across the street has 
Chevron. When it comes to TM one has the official TMO cult with all it's 
trappings or one can learn TM as taught by Mahahrishi Mahesh Yogi when he first 
came to America without all the weirdness. The people will have a choice, high 
priced weirdness, or simple knowledge at a simple 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawsuit - TMO vs. Scozzari

2006-02-04 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/4/06 5:40:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Except 
  the TMO owns the name and possession is 9/10's of the 
law.

I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I 
think the TMO owns the name Transcendental Mediation Program, butnot 
Transcendental Meditation. Any meditation technique that assists one to 
transcend could be called transcendental meditation. Seems I heard that some 
court had made the TMO ad Program to the trade mark name for this 
reason.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawsuit - TMO vs. Scozzari

2006-02-04 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/4/06 5:47:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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but Jack 
  in the Box doesn't have "Original Jack with the Jack-in-the-Box speaker" 
  and "new improved, but over-priced Jack with extra options but no speaker" 
  because there is a company that owns the name of the 
franchise.

It's all in the secret 
sauce.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lawsuit - TMO vs. Scozzari

2006-02-04 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 2/4/06 6:05:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  Except 
the TMO owns the name and possession is 9/10's of the 
  law.
  
  I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I 
  think the TMO owns the name Transcendental Mediation Program, 
  butnot Transcendental Meditation. Any meditation technique that 
  assists one to transcend could be called transcendental meditation. Seems I 
  heard that some court had made the TMO ad Program to the trade mark name for 
  this 
  reason.

I think also if a teacher were to open his own center near a 
Peace Palace offering TM at a reasonable rate and also just happened to 
have a picture of himself with Maharishi sitting in a prominent place in 
the center, the public wouldn't have many questions as to whether you were a 
legitimate teacher of TM or not. Leave the "splaining" to the Peace Palace 
teachers as to why they charge more and you charge 
less.





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