Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & > 8:15pm > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 6:49 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dress: > > In keeping with the special character of Guru Purnima > in the Vedic > > calendar, everyone should wear their most dignified > dress. > > > > Ladies should wear saris or long dresses or long > skirts (no pants > > or punjabis) and completely cover their heads and > shoulders with > > the sari or shawls/scarves in the Dome--to be dressed > properly > > for a Vedic performance. > > > > Men should wear coat and tie or a dress kurta with > nice pants. > > No one should wear anything made of leather into the > Dome (after > > removing shoes as usual in the shoe areas) such as > belts, wallets, > > watchbands, or purses. > > > > Ladies' consideration: > > As is the Vedic tradition, ladies who are pregnant or > having their > > monthly cycle should not attend. > > > And some misguided souls have suggested that the > TM organization is a weird Hindu cult. This should > dispel all those ugly rumors. Exactly! And I will be wearing my ice-cold-water-soaked loin cloth under my beige colored suit and not thinking of the supple, pliant breasts of the nubile women around me. Why do we even allow these whores, I mean ladies, into the dome in the first place? > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dress: In keeping with the special character of Guru Purnima in the Vedic calendar, everyone should wear their most dignified dress. Ladies should wear saris or long dresses or long skirts (no pants or punjabis) and completely cover their heads and shoulders with the sari or shawls/scarves in the Dome--to be dressed properly for a Vedic performance. Men should wear coat and tie or a dress kurta with nice pants. No one should wear anything made of leather into the Dome (after removing shoes as usual in the shoe areas) such as belts, wallets, watchbands, or purses. Ladies' consideration: As is the Vedic tradition, ladies who are pregnant or having their monthly cycle should not attend. And some misguided souls have suggested that the TM organization is a weird Hindu cult. This should dispel all those ugly rumors. Barry, I was hoping that someone with a little more sense of humor than I was able to summon up upon reading that would respond. Thanks. It would be great satire if it wasn't actually for real. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: IMO there couldn't possibly BE a more cult-like document. This is the face of the TM movement that it tries to hide from the public. Celebrating Hindu gods by making offerings to them (there is no pre- tending that this is part of a ceremony that is merely a traditional way that the TM technique is taught here), needing "dome badges" to enter (a form of elitism and paranoid security and obvious "some are better than others" hierarchy), misogyny out the yin-yang, rules of behavior and dress out the yin-yang, worship of the dead as if they aren't dead (the "presentation of achievements to Guru Dev"), and above all, *unquestioning* belief that anything called "Vedic" is good. This post should be archived and referred to any time in the future when some TM TB here claims that the TMO is not a Hindu cult. This "celebration" is an *official* function of the *official* headquarters of the TMO in America. If this announcement does not reflect that organization's true thinking, then what DOES it reflect? Hey, give em a little credit, Barry--at least they aren't requiring burnt offerings and the sacrifice of your first-born. Gotta draw the line somewhere, right? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:58 AM, do.rflex wrote: Transcendental Meditation is supposed to be about *enlightenment*. Funny, I thought it was supposed to be about a technique that you practiced 2X a day for mild reduction of stress. What a load of horse shit! But it's *Vedic* horse shit, flex. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: Hey, give em a little credit, Barry--at least they aren't requiring burnt offerings and the sacrifice of your first-born. The closest they'd get to making that a requirement is a suggestion that "it would be best I almost missed that the first time around: "Before the performances begin, it is best to sit in silence or meditate." English translation: We're going to be late, probably really late, like always, and if you're even thinking of complaining, well... Can you spell "Siberia"? Jai Guru Dev. :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Hugo wrote: What I'd like to know is whether all the good women of FF who frequent the domes are going to boycott this "celebration". Gosh, I don't know about the "good women," Hugo, but I know I sure am (going to boycott it, that is). :) My guess is not, as they're probably too far gone into cultsville to even realise they are being screwed over by some ancient bigot's ideas. But I live in hope. It' s kind of like the Stepford Wives, Vedic style. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:09 PM, feste37 wrote: Judy is absolutely correct on every point here. It's a distinction without a difference, feste. Who are they going to "require" to come to these events? There's nobody left, or hardly anybody. The vast majority of people who learn TM do not get involved in these kinds of activities. Who learn TM nowadays? Sure, all 2 of them. Those who do, as Judy says, find them nourishing in some way. Anybody taken a poll on this? Hard to believe anyone would find intense boredom nourishing, but you could be right. Some of those who do not like to get together on this board to poke fun at those who do and congratulate themselves on how much wiser and cleverer they are than those poor benighted TMO cultists. I'm not convinced. Um, feste, we're poking fun at ourselves, for having *been* those cultists, or close to it, in years past. I'm really surprised you can't see that. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
Two of your lucky moderators will be celebrating Guru Purnima with Ammachi. Not with some kid pundits and what some TMO middle manager considers the pundits' religious hangups to be, but with an actual avatar. On Devi Bhava, nonetheless. Everyone is welcome. Everyone. No badges required. "...but mountain doesn't move!" --- On Thu, 7/17/08, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 6:49 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dress: > In keeping with the special character of Guru Purnima in the Vedic > calendar, everyone should wear their most dignified dress. > > Ladies should wear saris or long dresses or long skirts (no pants > or punjabis) and completely cover their heads and shoulders with > the sari or shawls/scarves in the Dome--to be dressed properly > for a Vedic performance. > > Men should wear coat and tie or a dress kurta with nice pants. > No one should wear anything made of leather into the Dome (after > removing shoes as usual in the shoe areas) such as belts, wallets, > watchbands, or purses. > > Ladies' consideration: > As is the Vedic tradition, ladies who are pregnant or having their > monthly cycle should not attend. And some misguided souls have suggested that the TM organization is a weird Hindu cult. This should dispel all those ugly rumors. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
Hey, give em a little credit, Barry--at least they aren't requiring burnt offerings and the sacrifice of your first-born. Gotta draw the line somewhere, right? I think the TMO higher-ups know, deep in their hearts, even though they will never admit it, that their cult has messed up so many lives that their aren't any kids. Sad, really. "...but mountain doesn't move!" --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 10:26 AM On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: IMO there couldn't possibly BE a more cult-like document. This is the face of the TM movement that it tries to hide from the public. Celebrating Hindu gods by making offerings to them (there is no pre- tending that this is part of a ceremony that is merely a traditional way that the TM technique is taught here), needing "dome badges" to enter (a form of elitism and paranoid security and obvious "some are better than others" hierarchy), misogyny out the yin-yang, rules of behavior and dress out the yin-yang, worship of the dead as if they aren't dead (the "presentation of achievements to Guru Dev"), and above all, *unquestioning* belief that anything called "Vedic" is good. This post should be archived and referred to any time in the future when some TM TB here claims that the TMO is not a Hindu cult. This "celebration" is an *official* function of the *official* headquarters of the TMO in America. If this announcement does not reflect that organization's true thinking, then what DOES it reflect? Hey, give em a little credit, Barry--at least they aren't requiring burnt offerings and the sacrifice of your first-born. Gotta draw the line somewhere, right? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:56 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: IMO there couldn't possibly BE a more cult-like document. Actually, it would be a lot more cult-like if it said folks were *required* to attend the celebration. Something about this statement kept nagging at me, and I couldn't figure out what it was until now. It's that it displays an absolute ignorance of the nature of cults. A cult wouldn't HAVE to require a follower to attend one of its functions. A cult's control over its followers is such that they would WANT to attend, and believe that wanting to was their own idea. Not to mention that I'm pretty sure they *are* requiring everyone they can require to come, ie. the pundits, MD and whatever Purusha is in town. I'd be really surprised if they weren't. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 18, 2008, at 8:32 AM, feste37 wrote: Delighted to oblige. I would love to go to the celebration today, but unfortunately leather belts are not permitted and I need one to hold my trousers up. I would hate to embarrass myself in front of the ladies on such a dignified occasion. You don't need to, feste, you now have the total freedom to embarrass yourself in front of the men only. :) This just in: 1. Announcement for Ladies for Guru Purnima It is a delight to announce that the Bagambhrini Golden Dome will be open and connected to the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome for the Guru Purnima celebration. Any ladies who would like to enjoy the celebration in the Ladies’ Dome are warmly invited. The connection will be a video connection. We would ask that the points mentioned for the Men’s Dome apply to the Ladies’ Dome as well (arrival time, dress, etc.). If you would like your fruit and flowers to be offered by the Vedic Pandits, please stop by the Men’s Dome on your way to the Ladies’ Dome to be put them in the offerings receptacles in the lobby. Whether or not this is doublespeak meaning that ladies are *required* to go to the ladies' dome or not (I wonder, where are the women supposed to go?) it's bound to mean that a few less ladies will be in the mens' dome. So, courage, feste...sally forth! :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:03 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Whether or not this is doublespeak meaning that ladies are *required* to go to the ladies' dome or not (I wonder, where are the women supposed to go?) I think it is for the ladies for whom even the whiff of testosterone would make their headlights go on, Those would be the women, Curtis. which as you know is highly anti-Vedic. (although quite attractive through a silk sari I might add) I swear the movement will be instituting Sharia law in my lifetime. What do you call what they're doing now? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima Celebrations - Friday, 12:45pm & 8:15pm
On Jul 18, 2008, at 12:41 PM, feste37 wrote: Another reason I fear I may miss this great occasion is that I have a leather watchband, which is not permitted. I am one of those people who has to know what time it is. If I don't know the time, I go semi-crazy. It's approaching 12:45 now, so I guess this is one Guru Purnima that will have to go on without me. But I am pleased it is happening and that others will be there. These rituals do have effects. I remember about 20 years ago, when I was living in an apartment no more than 1/2 a mile from the dome, I forgot that it was Guru Purnima. Then at about 9 or so that evening, I started to feel very good -- calm and centered, mind absolutely clear, content. I didn't get tired at all that evening and didn't go to bed until very late. I felt completely different from my normal agitated state. At some point I remembered that it was Guru Purnima. Maybe the same will happen today, although I'm a little farther away. I don't think it will affect you though, Sal, since I think you are beyond redemption of any kind and happy to be so. Good luck with that! Correctamundo, feste! JOOC, how far do the vibes go, though, IYO? I'm about a mile and a half from the dooms-- if I close my eyes, face east, try to think pure thoughts and maybe throw some salt over my shoulder, will that make a diff? Sal
