Re: OT: find command permissions: how to exclude dir?

2008-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer

Rick Stevens wrote:

Gordon Messmer wrote:

You need to tell find what to do with files not named .gvfs:

find /users/tburns -name .gvfs -prune -o -print


Will not work.  As soon as the non-owner of .gvfs does a stat on the
directory, the error will be spit out.  find must "stat()" any item
it finds to handle the remainder of the predicate and POP goes the
error.


If -name is the first predicate, and you prune matches, find will not 
need to stat() the directory entry:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/findtest]$ find . -print
.
./noread
find: `./noread': Permission denied
./read
./read/file

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp/findtest]$ find . -name noread -prune -o -print
.
./read
./read/file

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Software: online magazine

2008-11-04 Thread Renich Bon Ciric
Hey, guys!

Anybody can suggest some online magazine software? preferably
specialized for magazines (not wordpress or drupal) and that it's
available in fedora, if possible, if not, only open source software (php
if possible) please!

I'd love to set up a cool open source magazine in spanish for the latin
american community!

Thanks in advance for the feedback!
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Re: Adjusting the KDE 4.1 panel

2008-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
kevin kempter  kevinkempterllc.com> writes:
> Can I set the KDE 4.1 panel to always be the width of the screen? I'm  
> running Fedora 9 in a VM and each time I adjust the screen size I need  
> to also change the panel width.

That's strange, I thought this was the default... It certainly was when I tried
it not too long ago. (I had to switch the resolution for a video projector
presentation.) I have no idea why it doesn't work for you.

> Also, can I move the widgets on the panel, e.g.: I want to move the  
> desktop pager to the left side of the panel.

Bring up the panel controller (what you also use for resizing), then you can
drag&drop your applets.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: SANE Support in Fedora 9 for HP

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Maxwell
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:00 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Jeff Maxwell writes:
> 
> > I have a very old HP OfficeJet 630 parallel port multifunction
> > printer/scanner/fax machine.  
> > 
> > Prior to Fedora 9, I had no problems with xsane/sane recognizing the
> > scanner function.
> > 
> > After installing Fedora 9 and going to the Software Add to include the
> > HP support for sane, xsane still can not find my device.
> > 
> > I have installed it as a printer without any issues.
> 
> This scanner is not listed as a supported scanner by sane:
> 
> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
> 
> 
> However, googling around suggests that there's some support in hplip:
> 
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_series_630.html
> 
> Make sure you have the hplip rpm installed.

It seems that the issue is between "root" and my local user.  If I sign
on under "root", the HP Device application has no problem finding my
OfficeJet.  Nor does it have any problems with the scan function.  

If I am signed on as my local user, the system is unable to communicate
with the printer.

I did find that while going through the set up process for the printer
under my local sign in, that it asked for my password.  After typing it
in several times, I hit the cancel button.

There may be a disconnect where by the application is unable to
recognize my local sign on password.


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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:18:01 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm just about out of time to play with this for the moment but later tonight
> I'll copy another large file and  I'll see if my other laptop still connects
> wirelessly after the connection to the Acer locks up.  It still connected
> earlier this afternoon but that was after the Acer connection had been locked
> up for a while.
> 
> It's obviously not locking up the whole router because I can still log into 
> the
> router's configuration page to reset it.  But again, it won't let me reconnect
> to the router with the Acer until I reset the router.  Otherwise it just keeps
> asking me for the WPA2 password.

Now I've done some more experimenting.

I put both the Acer and my other laptop online wirelessly.

Copying a large file from my desktop computer to the Acer locks up the wireless
side of the router. The copy fails after  just over 3mb has been
transferred and you can't do anything with the wireless connections after that.
While the connections still read as up (four bars) on both laptops, you can't
communicate and you can't re-connect until the router has been reset.

Copying that exact same file (and a bunch more afterward for good measure) from
my desktop computer to my other laptop works perfectly.  The files transfer and
everything works just like it should both before and after the copy has been
sent.

If I don't copy large files from my desktop computer to the Acer when it's
connected wirelessly, then everything seems to work.  I can use the Acer to
browse the web and so on without any apparent problem that I've seen to date.

I'm pretty sure it's something to do with higher transfer speed that you get
with a local file copy versus something that's coming in over the internet.
The Acer is apparently sending something unexpected to the router that causes
the wireless functions of the router to lock up.  The wired connections to the
router continue to work normally.

The router is a "Belkin Wireless G".

I wonder if there is some kind of a "stop for a moment because I'm overloaded"
command that the Acer is sending to the router, and forgetting to tell the
router to start again afterward.

I just filed this here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994


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Re: SANE Support in Fedora 9 for HP

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Maxwell
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:00 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Jeff Maxwell writes:
> 
> > I have a very old HP OfficeJet 630 parallel port multifunction
> > printer/scanner/fax machine.  
> > 
> > Prior to Fedora 9, I had no problems with xsane/sane recognizing the
> > scanner function.
> > 
> > After installing Fedora 9 and going to the Software Add to include the
> > HP support for sane, xsane still can not find my device.
> > 
> > I have installed it as a printer without any issues.
> 
> This scanner is not listed as a supported scanner by sane:
> 
> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
> 
> 
> However, googling around suggests that there's some support in hplip:
> 
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_series_630.html
> 
> Make sure you have the hplip rpm installed.

Prior to attempting to us my OfficeJet for scanning, I installed it as a
printer using the System/Administration/Printing setup application.

Through this process, Fedora 9 recognized my printer.

Following the information, I checked to see that hplip was installed and
found that it was.  I included the graphical front end.  After
installing the graphical front end, the installation asked if I wish to
run the program.  I answered yes and it responded saying that it was
unable to find any devices the subsequently crashed.

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Re: pdftk - f9 & f10

2008-11-04 Thread Mamoru Tasaka

Frank Cox wrote, at 11/05/2008 09:41 AM +9:00:


Will itext also become officially available for F9?

Currently no.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/itext
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465511

If you want itext on F-9, please file a RFE bug against
itext.


Will pdftk become officially available for F9 and F10?

No until new maintainer appears (and the new maintainer submits
a review request for pdftk).
If you are interested in maintaining pdftk on Fedora, please
visit:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join

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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Claude Jones
On Tue November 4 2008 10:19:01 am Linuxguy123 wrote:
> That is such a lame work around.  You need to explain that it doesn't
> display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x.   I think this is
> what the OP is asking for.

What's the problem? Right click any menu item and select 'Add to Desktop'; and 
no, you don't have to add them to a folder view...am I missing something?
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Re: pdftk - f9 & f10

2008-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:41 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> It's my understanding that pdftk was removed from the F9 repository due to 
> some
> licensing issues with itext (which pdftk requires to work).
> 
> pdftk is rather important to me and I assume a lot of other people as well.  I
> use it to create two-up impositions for a printing press.
> 
> I found a web page that stated the problems with itext had now been solved so
> itext was in the F10 rawhide repo.
> 
> I just checked and sure enough, itext-2.1.3-4.fc10.src.rpm, right there large
> as life.
> 
> However, pdftk isn't there.
> 
> Accordingly I have two questions:
> 
> Will itext also become officially available for F9?
> 
> Will pdftk become officially available for F9 and F10?

don't know and not responsive to your specific question but I have been 
installing the last (Fedora Core 6, if I recall correctly) SRPM and rebuilding 
it. In the interim, it will work.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:45:21 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And again, it's never failed to work wirelessly.  Even when this Acer was
> refusing to go online the Intel worked fine.

I think I've discovered a pattern here.  The problem appears to be caused by
what can best be described as going too fast.

If I get a wireless connection going with my Acer Aspire One I can use it for
what appears to be an indefinite period of time as long as I'm doing
lower-speed stuff.  Log into it with SSH, use VNC, browse the net, run "yum
install" and so on.  All appears to be well.

However, as soon as I try to copy a large file locally over the network, the
wireless connection locks up.  For example, this command to copy a file from
this desktop computer to the Acer:

scp MyFonts-1.0-1.noarch.rpm acer:/home/frankcox

Got this far and stalled:

WindowsVistaFonts-1.0-1.noarch.rpm 56% 3088KB 361.5KB/s - stalled -

The only way to get the connection back is to go to the router's configuration
page and "reset router".

I'm sure that I've copied large files over the wireless connection to my other
laptop before (I don't see why I wouldn't have) and I've never seen this lockup
problem before.

I've tried this twice and had the same thing happen both times.  And when I
lost my connection earlier today it was when attempting to copy a large file as
well.

So... do I need to slow something down somewhere?  Has anyone ever heard of
this type of an overrun on a wireless connection?  (I can do local copying of
large files via the wired ethernet connection on the Acer just fine.)

I'm just about out of time to play with this for the moment but later tonight
I'll copy another large file and  I'll see if my other laptop still connects
wirelessly after the connection to the Acer locks up.  It still connected
earlier this afternoon but that was after the Acer connection had been locked
up for a while.

It's obviously not locking up the whole router because I can still log into the
router's configuration page to reset it.  But again, it won't let me reconnect
to the router with the Acer until I reset the router.  Otherwise it just keeps
asking me for the WPA2 password.


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Re: No Sound in FC 8

2008-11-04 Thread Jim

Tod Merley wrote:

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

FC 8/ KDE

Using a SB Live EMU10K1, snd-emu10k1 module .

If I run the SoundCard Detection Tool , It will play sound.

If I try to play FlashPlayer on youtube.com or a  Mplayer video(I get
 video)  but I don't get any sound.

libflashsupport is installed.

If I do a Sound playback in KDE control Center I get NO Sound.
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Hi Jim!

Your probably way ahead of me on this but most sound problems such as
you indicate here I find related to the volume settings.  Try clicking
the speaker icon once to check the general volume.  If OK then double
click and run through the Playback settings making sure the desired
one is not only "up" but also not muted (little red X on most of
them).  Also take note of the "Edit > Preferences" in the drop down
menu.

Other than that I would look in /var/log/messages, /var/log/dmesg, and
/var/log/kern.  You might also try running with SELinux disabled for a
session.

Good Hunting

Tod

  

I have sound, with system-config-soundcard.
But no sound playing Flash or in KDE Control Center.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:36:42 -0900
Jeff Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is you other laptop windows?

Nope.  It's an Intel laptop running F8.
 
And again, it's never failed to work wirelessly.  Even when this Acer was
refusing to go online the Intel worked fine.

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pdftk - f9 & f10

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
It's my understanding that pdftk was removed from the F9 repository due to some
licensing issues with itext (which pdftk requires to work).

pdftk is rather important to me and I assume a lot of other people as well.  I
use it to create two-up impositions for a printing press.

I found a web page that stated the problems with itext had now been solved so
itext was in the F10 rawhide repo.

I just checked and sure enough, itext-2.1.3-4.fc10.src.rpm, right there large
as life.

However, pdftk isn't there.

Accordingly I have two questions:

Will itext also become officially available for F9?

Will pdftk become officially available for F9 and F10?

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Frank Cox
> I'm open to any ideas.


Is you other laptop windows? If it is is windows aggressively caching
routing information and reusing it even though your router appliance
was failing to hand it out?

-jef

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Re: control-center?? -- SOLVED

2008-11-04 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> Have you been editing the menus?  As well as options for adding or
>> changing menu content, you can simply turn some entries on or off.

Beartooth:
> No, I haven't. I know I installed the app to do it, but I've
> been more concerned with other things, and haven't even tried it. 
>
> I just found one, called alacarte. 

I thought you were using Fedora 9?  You don't need to add an editor
program, it should be possible to edit menus just by right-clicking on
the top of the menu.

> On the machines without the Control Center on the panel, sure enough,
> it was unchecked there, God knows why. So I checked it, and various
> other intriguing stuff besides.

I don't know why some computers would be different than others.  But the
default menus are set up from .desktop files from, at least,
within /usr/share/applications/ (though there's other places, too),
where you can look through them to see if there's any "hidden" or
"OnlyShowIn=Gnome" settings.  Hint:  locate .desktop

Personalisations are stored inside your homespace, which will override
the system ones.  Look in:  ~/.local/share/applications/

Some .desktop files won't be used directly for menus, they'll be used by
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Re: No Sound in FC 8

2008-11-04 Thread Tod Merley
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FC 8/ KDE
>
> Using a SB Live EMU10K1, snd-emu10k1 module .
>
> If I run the SoundCard Detection Tool , It will play sound.
>
> If I try to play FlashPlayer on youtube.com or a  Mplayer video(I get
>  video)  but I don't get any sound.
>
> libflashsupport is installed.
>
> If I do a Sound playback in KDE control Center I get NO Sound.
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Hi Jim!

Your probably way ahead of me on this but most sound problems such as
you indicate here I find related to the volume settings.  Try clicking
the speaker icon once to check the general volume.  If OK then double
click and run through the Playback settings making sure the desired
one is not only "up" but also not muted (little red X on most of
them).  Also take note of the "Edit > Preferences" in the drop down
menu.

Other than that I would look in /var/log/messages, /var/log/dmesg, and
/var/log/kern.  You might also try running with SELinux disabled for a
session.

Good Hunting

Tod

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Re: Telnet Confusion (was Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving : telnet weirdness)

2008-11-04 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:43 +, Beartooth wrote:
> If only by trial and error, I think I can set up a different 
> terminal emulation (xterm instead of my usual gnome terminal, for 
> instance, which is configured primarily for Alpine), and avoid all
> that gibberish caused by trying to use the backspace and arrow keys.

In many cases (probably most cases), when using telnet to talk to some
non telnet server, you will not be able to use the backspace and cursor
keys.

You're not talking to a command line interpreter, which would let you
edit a command line, then execute it when you press enter.  You're
sending characters to something that's expecting a very limited range of
input.  If telneting to a HTTP server, for instance, a command might be
GET followed by what to get.  It has to be typed letter perfect.  If you
type any other character then try to correct it, you've sent those
characters *plus* the editing characters to the server.

Generally, they're acting on each character as they're sent, not on a
prepared command line, to be sent all at once.

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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Ralf Corsepius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can deterministically reproduce this breakdown. Shall I video tape it,
> if you don't want to believe me?

I have a rawhide laptop going here... got the error dialog referred to
in the bug...exactly once.

if I use add/remove interface...to install something new I get the
dialog on first attempt an install acction from rpmfusion. Second
attempt goes through.   Subsequent attempts at install seem to work
for me regardless of repository.  Not sure what's going on. I can't
seem to reproduce it beyond that first dialog.

The update interface seems to work since I'm pretty sure I've eaten
some updates from rpmfusion recently, but its hard to be sure, I'd
have to force an update situation.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:02:24 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:09 -0600
> Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > What should I be looking at here?
> 
> Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to connect.  I
> think I'm in trouble from the very first line.  "Couldn't get connection
> secrets"

I just went to my router's configuration page and told it to "reset router".
Now I can connect wirelessly again.

This is really odd because throughout this episode I could still get a wireless
connection with my other laptop.  In fact, the wireless on that laptop has
always been rock-solid, it just works.

I'm thinking that something in the way that Network Manager handles the
wireless connection is getting confused somewhere along the line, but I don't
see why resetting the router would clear the problem.

I'm open to any ideas.

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Re: acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:09 -0600
Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> What should I be looking at here?

Here is the relevant section of /var/log/messages when I try to connect.  I
think I'm in trouble from the very first line.  "Couldn't get connection
secrets"

This worked fine last night and for most of today.  I couldn't get it online
just before lunch with this same problem, but after lunch it worked fine
again.  A while back it just stopped responding on the wireless connection and
when now I can't get it to reconnect.

Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get
connection secrets: applet-device-wifi.c.1522 (get_secrets_dialog_response_cb):
canceled.
Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 6 ->
9
Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) failed for
access point (melvilletheatre.net)
Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   Marking connection 'Auto
melvilletheatre.net' invalid.
Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) failed.
Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 9 ->
3
Nov  4 17:50:08 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): deactivating device
(reason: 0).
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) starting
connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net'
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 3 ->
4
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) started...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) complete.
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) starting...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 4 ->
5
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
access point 'Auto melvilletheatre.net' has security, but secrets are required.
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 5 ->
6
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) complete.
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) started...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 6 ->
4
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5
(Device Prepare) complete.
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) starting...
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 4 ->
5
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
connection 'Auto melvilletheatre.net' has security, and secrets exist.  No new
secrets needed.
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Config: added 'ssid' value
'melvilletheatre.net'
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1'
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Config: added 'key_mgmt' value
'WPA-PSK'
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Config: added 'psk' value
''
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5
(Device Configure) complete.
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   Config: set interface ap_scan to 1
Nov  4 17:50:13 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  disconnected -> scanning
Nov  4 17:50:14 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  scanning -> associating
Nov  4 17:50:34 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  associating -> disconnected
Nov  4 17:50:34 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  disconnected -> scanning
Nov  4 17:50:35 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  scanning -> associating
Nov  4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
association took too long.
Nov  4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change: 5 ->
6
Nov  4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
asking for new secrets
Nov  4 17:50:38 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  associating -> disconnected
Nov  4 17:50:53 acer NetworkManager:   wlan0: link timed out.
Nov  4 17:52:20 acer NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant connection
state:  disconnected -> scanning




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acer aspire one - wireless ethernet

2008-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
I installed the F10 beta on my new Acer Aspire One and it's working really
well, with one exception that I've discovered so far.

The wireless ethernet connects fine and works for a while.  Then it stops
responding, even though the little bar thing shows three or four bars.  If I try
to connect to my router again it comes up with a message telling me to enter my
password to access the router.  If I click on "show password" it shows me a
series of numbers and letters that's not my WPA2 password.  If I enter my
password again it attempts to connect, fails, and just brings me back to the
window asking for my password.

What should I be looking at here?

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Re: Non-kde app launcher in KDE4 F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Claude Jones
On Tue November 4 2008 4:58:40 pm Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I have also now seen that if you add the FolderView Widget to
> the desktop and then right click
> on the grey area of FolderView you can select Create New ->
> Link to Application - as well as other options.


nice catch! I'd missed that one
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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Mike
Adel ESSAFI  imag.fr> writes:
 
> Dear listmy question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable
> the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.

It is simple - go to the K (=kickoff menu) in the bottom left of the desktop.

Navigate to the application you are interested in, and then right click.
You will get options to add to the Desktop or to the Panel as you wish.


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Re: java library deps on custom build

2008-11-04 Thread Andrew Overholt
Hi,

(adding fedora-devel-java-list to the discussion)

* Christoph Höger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-11-04 07:09]:
> 
> I've just compiled scilab on my f9 laptop and tried to run it, but get a
> lot of libraries missing. Ldd says that some java libs (libjava.so,
> libjvm.so) are not found. Those libraries float around
> in /usr/lib/java... Shouldn't that mean that theyre found automagically
> or do I really have to add every single subfolder to LD_LIBRARY_PATH?

I forwarded your question to Tom Fitzsimmons and he said this:

> If an application is using the JNI Invocation API -- I wouldn't be
> surprised if scilab does this -- then the application should dlopen any
> Java DSOs it needs.  It's annoying to find them because they're
> non-standard.  The Fedora packages can just hard-code to
> java-1.6.0-openjdk's locations, though they need to ensure they have the
> proper architecture modifiers in the paths, e.g.:
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64.  OpenOffice has some
> helper functions for finding these things.  Maybe these could be rolled
> into a libjpackage.so convenience library for reuse.
> 
> Tom

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: freenx 7.3

2008-11-04 Thread Mike Cloaked



Les Mikesell-2 wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have step-by-step instructions for using freenx 7.3's 
> ability to remotely mirror the console session?  I'm trying to do it 
> under Centos but maybe someone here has more experience with it.  I can 
> mirror a non-console freenx session to 2 remote connections but haven't 
> been able to get a connection to the console session.  If I say I want a 
> vnc session I can see mirroring the console as a choice but haven't been 
> able to make it connect.
> 
> 

I would be interested in seeing the answer to this as well
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Re: Non-kde app launcher in KDE4 F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> Brilliant - really excellent - this is the first time I have seen an
> answer on this that really is simple 
> and it works - am very pleased - thank you very much
> 

I have also now seen that if you add the FolderView Widget to the desktop
and then right click 
on the grey area of FolderView you can select Create New -> Link to
Application - as well as other options.

I have learned a lot this evening so the answer to my original question
is yes - in at least two different ways!  KDE4 is growing on me day by day!
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Adjusting the KDE 4.1 panel

2008-11-04 Thread kevin kempter

Hi List;

Can I set the KDE 4.1 panel to always be the width of the screen? I'm  
running Fedora 9 in a VM and each time I adjust the screen size I need  
to also change the panel width.


Also, can I move the widgets on the panel, e.g.: I want to move the  
desktop pager to the left side of the panel.



Thanks in advance...

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Re: Non-kde app launcher in KDE4 F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Mike Cloaked



Claude Jones-5 wrote:
> 
> Right-click on 
> the application menu button on the left of the panel; select 'Menu Editor'
> and 
> off you go. It will lead you into the classic menu display where you can
> pick a 
> folder to add your app to and by clicking on the folder in which you want
> to 
> add your app, and clicking on the 'New Item' button on the toolbar, you
> will 
> open a window that will allow you to add all the relevant information to
> add 
> your app to the menu 
> 
> 

Brilliant - really excellent - this is the first time I have seen an answer
on this that really is simple 
and it works - am very pleased - thank you very much
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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Makhlin

Michael H. Warfield wrote:

I probably should stay out of this...  But...

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:17 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
  
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: 


Armin Moradi wrote:
  
  

Is this turning into a religious war?




Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to
the OPs question. It depends on too many factors for the answer to
be the same in all situations. The OP has not given us enough
information to even take a guess on what would be best for him.

Mikkel
  
  

My original question was based on the fact that Ubuntu is used on
either pre installed Linux systems and on what they call "Linux
friendly" computers which Ubuntu is recommended for. So my question is
why did they choose Ubuntu? What makes it so special? I personally
like Fedora far better for my own personal reasons. I don't even touch
my Vista Ultimate 64 partition any more. But again, why is the
mainstream market choosing Ubuntu?



IMHO (take it for what it's worth)...

Fedora has been accused of being "Beta", which is very wrong.  It's not
beta at all but it is EA.  But it's not EA in the sense of "Early
Availability", which you see from a lot of commercial outfits like Sun.
It's more EA as in "Early Adopters" where we get more of the newest
toots and whistles, whether they're fully baked and prime time or not.
It's really for people who are not afraid to climb under the hood (to
get back to the auto analogy) and tinker and tune, if you have to or if
you want to (as oppose to some distributions where you don't have a
choice).

Ubuntu, OTOH, is really geared for the "non-gearheads".  You might not
see as many toots and whistles (but I'm really impressed with what I do
see) but it will have a lot more than RHEL (which is more server
oriented) and it will be pretty darn stable and supported over a much
longer life cycle (big support pluses).

Fedora is stable but does still pop enough surprises on me that I would
not recommend it to my non-techie friends (and only some of my
techie-friends, depending on their talent and predisposition to pester
me).  I would (and do) recommend Ubuntu in a heartbeat.  I have an old
high school friend who is a school bus driver who was given some old
machines.  Would I plague her with Fedora and have her figure out what
went wrong when something goes bump and I don't know what hardware she
has in the bucket?  I don't think so.  I'm installing Ubuntu on a
machine right now for my daughter and wouldn't hesitate to do the same
for either of my grandsons.  I don't think I would give them Fedora.
Certainly not F10 or F9.  I'm a little less hesitant about F8, but
that's already nearing its end of life with F10 coming out.  That's not
the cycle I want any of them on, upgrading their machines every 6-12
months or be SOL on updates.  Nope, wrong answer.  Right answer for me,
wrong answer for them.  My son on the other hand is just as proficient
as I am and keeps a stable of various Fedora systems and servers
running.

I work on Fedora, I use Fedora, I debug Fedora and I develop for
Fedora.  But I would not recommended for others who are not into the
same level or interest of techie and geeky stuff that I'm into.

Oh, and there are a LOT more distributions I use.  I found another
threat about a forensic Fedora distribution amusing when we have already
NST (Network Security TookKit) which is a forensic toolkit CD based on
(now) Fedora 8.  I use that extensively and have forensic CD's
preinstalled in all my remote servers with serial consoles.  Different
distribution, different purpose, different target audience.  I've also
used Knoppix and Slackware where they fit the job.  One size does NOT
fit all.

A hammer will drive a screwdriver but it doesn't make you a carpenter
(usually expressed "when all you have is a hammer, all problems start
looking like nails").  When ever someone asks "is this better or is that
better" the answer is generally "yes" and then "no" and then "it depends
on what you want to use it for - define your conditions".  And I will
stand on that for this as well.  Which is better?  Both and neither.
Depending upon purpose and conditions or circumstances one can argue
each is better and one can argue that neither are appropriate (I would
use neither in the forensic case).

Mike
  

Hi and thank you for your clear answer,

Yes I agree that Fedora 9 is not a Beta or an EA. I find Fedora 9 to be 
a great distribution and am looking forward to Fedora 10. Fedora 9 still 
has a few bugs but we are all working on them and they do get resolved 
quite quickly. As far as I concluded, I am sticking with Fedora.
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External hard disk or USB errors

2008-11-04 Thread Stewart Williams
I have an external USB Maxtor OneTouch 160GB hard disk attached to one 
of my systems and occasionally after the drive has been connected for 
sometime, randomly it un-mounts and I have to turn it off and on again 
before I can re-mount it.


The following errors are logged (please see attached file for full log):

...

Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: USB disconnect, address 68
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda5, logical
block 731
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda5
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: Aborting journal on device sda5.
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: journal commit I/O error
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda5, logical
block 11
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda5
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 69
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: scsi190 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb-storage: device found at 69
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning

...

Can anyone shine any light on wether it's a power, USB, hard disk 
(failure pending?) or some other problem.


It only does now and again; but it is of concern.

Many Thanks.
Nov  4 08:53:53 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: USB disconnect, address 67
Nov  4 08:54:08 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 68
Nov  4 08:54:08 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  4 08:54:08 server1 kernel: scsi189 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov  4 08:54:08 server1 kernel: usb-storage: device found at 68
Nov  4 08:54:08 server1 kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Nov  4 08:54:13 server1 kernel: scsi 189:0:0:0: Direct-Access Maxtor
  OneTouch 0201 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
Nov  4 08:54:13 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] 240119808 512-byte
hardware sectors (122941 MB)
Nov  4 08:54:13 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Nov  4 08:54:13 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
Nov  4 08:54:13 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive
cache: write through
Nov  4 08:54:13 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] 240119808 512-byte
hardware sectors (122941 MB)
Nov  4 08:54:14 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Nov  4 08:54:14 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
Nov  4 08:54:14 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive
cache: write through
Nov  4 08:54:14 server1 kernel:  sda: sda1 < sda5 >
Nov  4 08:54:14 server1 kernel: sd 189:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Nov  4 08:54:14 server1 kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete
Nov  4 09:00:08 server1 kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5
seconds
Nov  4 09:00:08 server1 kernel: EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count
reached, running e2fsck is recommended
Nov  4 09:00:08 server1 kernel: EXT3 FS on sda5, internal journal
Nov  4 09:00:08 server1 kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered
data mode.
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: USB disconnect, address 68
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda5, logical
block 731
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda5
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: Aborting journal on device sda5.
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: journal commit I/O error
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda5, logical
block 11
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda5
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 69
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb 5-7: configuration #1 chosen from 1
choice
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: scsi190 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
Storage devices
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb-storage: device found at 69
Nov  4 17:10:21 server1 kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to
settle before scanning
Nov  4 17:10:26 server1 kernel: scsi 190:0:0:0: Direct-Access Maxtor
  OneTouch 0201 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
Nov  4 17:10:26 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] 240119808 512-byte
hardware sectors (122941 MB)
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive
cache: write through
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] 240119808 512-byte
hardware sectors (122941 MB)
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 1c 00 00 00
Nov  4 17:10:27 server1 kernel: sd 190:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive
cache: write through
Nov  4 17:10:32 server1 kernel:  sdb: sdb1 < sdb5 >
Nov  4 17:10:32 server

Re: IBM 19K5544 Intel Pro/100 Ethernet Adapter

2008-11-04 Thread Todd Denniston

Tod Merley wrote, On 11/04/2008 03:47 PM:

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Tod Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have two of these (PCI) network cards, they seem pretty nice.  I'm not
sure where I got them but I was wondering if they should work with Fedora?
 I plugged one in but lspci doesn't see it and trying to find it in dmesg
failed.  Just trying to avoid going out and buying new cards for an old
machine I'm trying to get up and running.  I have a feeling they are IBM OEM
and won't work with Linux but thought I'd check before tossing them.


Thanks - Tod


Hi Tod!

I think the important thing here is that you do not see it with lspci,
which I believe implies a BIOS or Hardware problem.  If it were me I
would:

1. Make sure you are root when running lspci.  Try lspci -v -v -x and
other variants.

2. Refresh the CMOS.  Go to CMOS setup during boot (watch the screen -
most likely it will tell you how) and select "factory defaults" or
"default settings" - save and exit.  Often in an old computer the CMOS
battery goes low and the CMOS settings go flakey.  By restoring
defaults during boot you write a clean set of settings while power is
held up by the computer being on.  If this clears the problem, replace
the battery. Sometimes it works to remove the CMOS battery and do the
above test.  See if lspci sees it now.

3. Try another PCI slot on your machine.

4. Confirm that the card works in another machine.

5. Obtain service manual for card and motherboard and look for an
issue related to PCI bus setup (run - update-pciids ? ).  Google is
our friend with this kind of thing.

Good Hunting!

Tod




Three other thing to consider...
What other cards/devices are in the box on the PCI bus?
How old a motherboard? (old enough to be a transitional ISA to PCI or first 
gen all PCI)??
I generally think of network cards as low power devices, but could it be that 
there is not enough power left in the power rails of the mobo (last PCI slot 
of the board)?


It has been a while, but with some older equipment I had to use I could have 
one of the two (different types of) network cards in the computer and have 
them assigned an interrupt, but putting the second card in would [depending on 
the physical bus order and bios settings] cause the machine to not boot up or 
only recognize one card was physically there.


as Tod implies, lspci is your friend... abuse that friendship :)

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Re: fedora 9/10 Guest account?

2008-11-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:22:55 -0500,
  Matt Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, doesn't seem to be working:
> 
> This is on a fully updated F9 install, selinux in enforcing mode, xguest
> installed. When trying to login at the Guest user:
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing dbus-daemon (xguest_dbusd_t) "read write" to socket
> (xguest_t).

I tested it previously in F9 and it worked at one time. I can't test it
right now and I can't easily test on F9 any more. But I'll try it out in
rawhide later.

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Re: IBM 19K5544 Intel Pro/100 Ethernet Adapter

2008-11-04 Thread Tod Merley
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Tod Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two of these (PCI) network cards, they seem pretty nice.  I'm not
> sure where I got them but I was wondering if they should work with Fedora?
>  I plugged one in but lspci doesn't see it and trying to find it in dmesg
> failed.  Just trying to avoid going out and buying new cards for an old
> machine I'm trying to get up and running.  I have a feeling they are IBM OEM
> and won't work with Linux but thought I'd check before tossing them.
>
>
> Thanks - Tod
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Hi Tod!

I think the important thing here is that you do not see it with lspci,
which I believe implies a BIOS or Hardware problem.  If it were me I
would:

1. Make sure you are root when running lspci.  Try lspci -v -v -x and
other variants.

2. Refresh the CMOS.  Go to CMOS setup during boot (watch the screen -
most likely it will tell you how) and select "factory defaults" or
"default settings" - save and exit.  Often in an old computer the CMOS
battery goes low and the CMOS settings go flakey.  By restoring
defaults during boot you write a clean set of settings while power is
held up by the computer being on.  If this clears the problem, replace
the battery. Sometimes it works to remove the CMOS battery and do the
above test.  See if lspci sees it now.

3. Try another PCI slot on your machine.

4. Confirm that the card works in another machine.

5. Obtain service manual for card and motherboard and look for an
issue related to PCI bus setup (run - update-pciids ? ).  Google is
our friend with this kind of thing.

Good Hunting!

Tod

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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/04/2008 02:56 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> because...
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> And:
>>
>>  4.  The Ubuntu life cycle is much longer than Fedora, making it more
>>  stable for production environments.
>>
>
> I don't particularly buy that argument


Even though, I believe that was the major factor. I would be strongly
against an OEM putting Fedora on regular user desktops anyways. Ubuntu
has a much more versatile user support infrastructure, and a lot more
stable pace than Fedora. Both of these reasons lead to me not using
it, but are also good reasons for an OEM (especially a lazy one) to
use.

So Ubuntu on Dells is a good thing. That itself does not make it
better than Fedora.

Frankly, Fedora and Ubuntu are different enough that I don't think
they can be compared at all to say that either is better.


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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 11/04/2008 02:56 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:

On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
  

because...




And:

  4.  The Ubuntu life cycle is much longer than Fedora, making it more
  stable for production environments.
  
I don't particularly buy that argument. If you are looking for stability 
in production environments, then you need to compare the Enterprise 
distributions, such as RHEL and CentOS. With Ubuntu you can chose LTS or 
Normal, and you can purchase a support contract. Fedora (and OpenSuSe 
for that matter) is not intended for a corporate production environment. 
It includes all the bells and whistles because the user community 
demands these where a corporate production desktop or server needs more 
stability. I currently run Ubuntu (8.10 Intrepid Ibex) on my personal 
laptop, Fedora 9 on my corporate HP Integrity (IA64) Workstation, and 
Fedora 9 on my x86_64 desktop at home. I happen to like the fact that 
Ubuntu has a decent LiveCD with an easy installer. Fedora and OpenSuSE 
are more traditional in that they provide more bits on the installation 
media. Aditionally, it is my perception that both Red Hat and Novel give 
more back to the OpenSource community. I know that Red Hat and SuSE both 
has a number of kernel developers on staff.


But, in the original question, which one is better, Fedora 9 or Ubuntu, 
I could not begin to answer that, and I use them both every day.


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Re: selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
So, after finding a similar sounding bug, I upgraded libxcb to the version
from rawhide, and everything is working nowtime to go file a bug/comment
on one...

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Matt Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> output from /var/log/messages as I try to login as guest user: (xguest):
>
> Nov  4 14:13:15 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-2932): Exiting
> Nov  4 14:13:15 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: Not cloning cgroup for unused
> subsystem ns
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): starting
> (version 2.22.0), pid 3121 user 'xguest'
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): Resolved
> address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only
> configuration source at position 0
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): Resolved
> address "xml:readwrite:/home/xguest/.gconf" to a writable configuration
> source at position 1
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): Resolved
> address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only
> configuration source at position 2
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: type=1400
> audit(1225825996.389:5): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3148
> comm="dbus-daemon" path="socket:[37602]" dev=sockfs ino=37602
> scontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0
> tcontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_t:s0 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 ssh-agent[3166]: error: setrlimit
> RLIMIT_CORE: Permission denied
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 acpid: client connected from
> 3229[0:0]
> Nov  4 14:13:17 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: mtrr: base(0xd000) is not
> aligned on a size(0x3e8) boundary
> Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): starting (version
> 2.22.0), pid 3258 user 'gdm'
> Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration
> source at position 0
> Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system" to a read-only configuration
> source at position 1
> Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf.mandatory" to a read-only configuration
> source at position 2
> Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
> "xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at
> position 3
> Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration
> source at position 4
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Error setting
> value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay': Can't overwrite
> existing read-only value: Value for
> `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a read-only source
> at the front of your configuration path
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Error setting
> value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay': Can't overwrite
> existing read-only value: Value for
> `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a read-only source
> at the front of your configuration path
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: polkit.c: Cannot
> set UID on session object.
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c: Called SUID
> root and real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the
> configuration. However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c: We are not
> in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping
> SUID again.
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c: For
> enabling real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit
> priviliges, or become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the
> RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user.
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c:
> setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c:
> setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
> Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: alsa-util.c: Device
> front:0 doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 44099 Hz.
>
> Obviously, the things that stick out in there are the :
>
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: type=1400
> audit(1225825996.389:5): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3148
> comm="dbus-daemon" path="socket:[37602]" dev=sockfs ino=37602
> scontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0
> tcontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_t:s0 tclass=unix_stream_socket
> Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 ssh-agent[3166]: error: setrlimit
> RLIMIT_CORE: Permission denied
>
> and:
>
> Nov  4 14:13:15 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: Not cl

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:31:51PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> because...
> 

And:

  4.  The Ubuntu life cycle is much longer than Fedora, making it more
  stable for production environments.
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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Michael H. Warfield
I probably should stay out of this...  But...

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:17 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: 
> > Armin Moradi wrote:
> >   
> > > Is this turning into a religious war?
> > > 
> > > 
> > Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to
> > the OPs question. It depends on too many factors for the answer to
> > be the same in all situations. The OP has not given us enough
> > information to even take a guess on what would be best for him.
> > 
> > Mikkel
> >   
> My original question was based on the fact that Ubuntu is used on
> either pre installed Linux systems and on what they call "Linux
> friendly" computers which Ubuntu is recommended for. So my question is
> why did they choose Ubuntu? What makes it so special? I personally
> like Fedora far better for my own personal reasons. I don't even touch
> my Vista Ultimate 64 partition any more. But again, why is the
> mainstream market choosing Ubuntu?

IMHO (take it for what it's worth)...

Fedora has been accused of being "Beta", which is very wrong.  It's not
beta at all but it is EA.  But it's not EA in the sense of "Early
Availability", which you see from a lot of commercial outfits like Sun.
It's more EA as in "Early Adopters" where we get more of the newest
toots and whistles, whether they're fully baked and prime time or not.
It's really for people who are not afraid to climb under the hood (to
get back to the auto analogy) and tinker and tune, if you have to or if
you want to (as oppose to some distributions where you don't have a
choice).

Ubuntu, OTOH, is really geared for the "non-gearheads".  You might not
see as many toots and whistles (but I'm really impressed with what I do
see) but it will have a lot more than RHEL (which is more server
oriented) and it will be pretty darn stable and supported over a much
longer life cycle (big support pluses).

Fedora is stable but does still pop enough surprises on me that I would
not recommend it to my non-techie friends (and only some of my
techie-friends, depending on their talent and predisposition to pester
me).  I would (and do) recommend Ubuntu in a heartbeat.  I have an old
high school friend who is a school bus driver who was given some old
machines.  Would I plague her with Fedora and have her figure out what
went wrong when something goes bump and I don't know what hardware she
has in the bucket?  I don't think so.  I'm installing Ubuntu on a
machine right now for my daughter and wouldn't hesitate to do the same
for either of my grandsons.  I don't think I would give them Fedora.
Certainly not F10 or F9.  I'm a little less hesitant about F8, but
that's already nearing its end of life with F10 coming out.  That's not
the cycle I want any of them on, upgrading their machines every 6-12
months or be SOL on updates.  Nope, wrong answer.  Right answer for me,
wrong answer for them.  My son on the other hand is just as proficient
as I am and keeps a stable of various Fedora systems and servers
running.

I work on Fedora, I use Fedora, I debug Fedora and I develop for
Fedora.  But I would not recommended for others who are not into the
same level or interest of techie and geeky stuff that I'm into.

Oh, and there are a LOT more distributions I use.  I found another
threat about a forensic Fedora distribution amusing when we have already
NST (Network Security TookKit) which is a forensic toolkit CD based on
(now) Fedora 8.  I use that extensively and have forensic CD's
preinstalled in all my remote servers with serial consoles.  Different
distribution, different purpose, different target audience.  I've also
used Knoppix and Slackware where they fit the job.  One size does NOT
fit all.

A hammer will drive a screwdriver but it doesn't make you a carpenter
(usually expressed "when all you have is a hammer, all problems start
looking like nails").  When ever someone asks "is this better or is that
better" the answer is generally "yes" and then "no" and then "it depends
on what you want to use it for - define your conditions".  And I will
stand on that for this as well.  Which is better?  Both and neither.
Depending upon purpose and conditions or circumstances one can argue
each is better and one can argue that neither are appropriate (I would
use neither in the forensic case).

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Re: Solved: Why is a terminal in F9 starting in ~/Documents?

2008-11-04 Thread g
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Steven W. Orr wrote:

>>No! This is a problem in the way the X server is configured. The xterm 
>>just starts in the directory that it's started from. It's the server 
>>that's in the wrong directory.
>>
>>Is no one else unhappy with this?
> 
> This is not the perfect solution, but it actually  solves two problems. 
> This may not be perfect for you because you might like one aspect but not 
> the other.
> 
> Change the line in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf from 
> enabled=True
> to
> enabled=False
> 
> Then I deleted the Videos, Pictures, Music, Documents, Public, etc, which 
> I do not want in the first place.

could be that i do not have problem you have is that i do not have
file '/etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf', therefore x server is not confused
with where to start a terminal.
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Re: init does not respawn mgetty

2008-11-04 Thread g
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Don Russell wrote:

> But, after mgetty answers an incoming call, and ends... it is not
> respawned... so a second call is never answered.
> 
> Where do I find documentation on the contents of these files in
> /etc/event.d or is there a different mechanism I should be using for
> such things?

log on to;

 http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&output=linux&restrict=linux

enter in 'all these words:' "event.d AND mgetty AND restart" without ""
for 81 hits.

enter in 'all these words:' "event.d AND mgetty AND respawn" without ""
for 45 hits.

for documentation, try;

enter in 'all these words:' "/etc/event.d AND documentation" without "".
for 75 hits.

also, if you are using mgetty for answering telephone calls, try vgetty
instead of mgetty in both you system and in search. vgetty is for voice.

hth.
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Re: OT: find command permissions: how to exclude dir?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Stevens

Gordon Messmer wrote:

Dave Burns wrote:


man page on find -prune was not clear to me, but I tried all combos I
can think of, nothing works as I'd wish:

...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns -name .gvfs -prune
find: /users/tburns/.gvfs: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns -prune -name .gvfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns \( -prune -name .gvfs \)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns \( -name .gvfs -prune \)
find: /users/tburns/.gvfs: Permission denied


You need to tell find what to do with files not named .gvfs:

find /users/tburns -name .gvfs -prune -o -print


Will not work.  As soon as the non-owner of .gvfs does a stat on the
directory, the error will be spit out.  find must "stat()" any item
it finds to handle the remainder of the predicate and POP goes the
error.


And now that I've logged out & back in and .gvfs is mounted again, I
can test the other suggested workaround involving remount. This also
does not work for me, though I may be giving the wrong form of mount
command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo mount -o remount -o exec -o suid  -o rw 
/users/tburns/.gvfs

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns/.gvfs
find: /users/tburns/.gvfs: Permission denied


I'm not sure what was mounted in the examples mentioned earlier.  My 
understanding of FUSE is that the process providing the FS is the one 
that must perform the mount.  Remounting manually should mount nothing.





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Solved: Why is a terminal in F9 starting in ~/Documents?

2008-11-04 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Nov 4th 2008 at 10:10 -, quoth Steven W. Orr:

=>On Tuesday, Nov 4th 2008 at 01:46 -, quoth g:
=>
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=>=>Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>=>
=>=>> Sorry, I didn't think I needed to mention it. I'm running KDE. Those must 
=>=>> be gnome instructions.
=>=>
=>=>no problem. i use kde also. no, they are from 'konsole'.
=>=>
=>=>my error was in my reply of 2008.1104.00:13:44 utc in that i clicked wrong
=>=>message and replied to paul w frields post of 2008.1103.21:33:49 utc,
=>=>wherein he infers his reply was for gnome. i guess he clicked wrong message
=>=>also.
=>=>
=>=>anyway, if this clears up what we did, great.
=>=>
=>=>so again, 'big q'. did you correct your start directory problem 
straightened?
=>
=>No! This is a problem in the way the X server is configured. The xterm 
=>just starts in the directory that it's started from. It's the server 
=>that's in the wrong directory.
=>
=>Is no one else unhappy with this?

This is not the perfect solution, but it actually  solves two problems. 
This may not be perfect for you because you might like one aspect but not 
the other.

Change the line in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf from 
enabled=True
to
enabled=False

Then I deleted the Videos, Pictures, Music, Documents, Public, etc, which 
I do not want in the first place.

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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:17 -0800, Alex Makhlin wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: 
> > Armin Moradi wrote:
> >   
> > > Is this turning into a religious war?
> > > 
> > > 
> > Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to
> > the OPs question. It depends on too many factors for the answer to
> > be the same in all situations. The OP has not given us enough
> > information to even take a guess on what would be best for him.
> > 
> > Mikkel
> >   
> My original question was based on the fact that Ubuntu is used on
> either pre installed Linux systems and on what they call "Linux
> friendly" computers which Ubuntu is recommended for. So my question is
> why did they choose Ubuntu? What makes it so special? I personally
> like Fedora far better for my own personal reasons. I don't even touch
> my Vista Ultimate 64 partition any more. But again, why is the
> mainstream market choosing Ubuntu?

because...

1. You can always purchase support from Canonical (cannot purchase
support from Fedora)

2. Fewer installed packages, less fuss, less things to go wrong on
Ubuntu on a typical install whereas Fedora will comparatively install a
kitchen sink

3. Off-shore distribution skirts restrictions that create problems
because of US patents

Craig

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Re: [Thanks][Everything running just fine]

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Makhlin

Jorge Boscan Etura wrote:

Hello

I have an hp dv6139eu laptop running F8 and this is to say that
it works just fine, it is being used 24/7, no crash.

Thank you Fedora Team!!

  
I am running Fedora 9 KDE 4.1.2 on an HP dv9208nr laptop, 24/7, and its 
been great ass well. It is a whole lot better now that Nvidia video 
cards are working properly. So the only time I have run into serious 
problems is when I experimented a bit to much so I built a separate 
machine for that purpose, but my HP laptop has been set-up perfectly and 
runs great!


Thank you Fedora Team!!

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Re: ATA Problem with Kernel 2.6.26.6-79

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:07:58 -0700
"Andrig T. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, I should have know better.  Alan, you were correct.  While I don't have
> the same performance problem under the older kernel, the error messages
> started showing up, and when I ran
> 
> smartctrl -Hc /dev/sda is says my hard disk is about to fail.

That's what I had expected - no hard feelings through when it seems to
work with one kernel and not another it leads rapidly to an obvious
conclusion that may not always be right.

I'd appreciate it if you can file a copy of both dmesg sets of the
failings and a report about the performance difference in bugzilla. I
don't understand why that is different and I'd like to at least take a
glance at it in case anything strikes me.

Alan

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Re: selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
output from /var/log/messages as I try to login as guest user: (xguest):

Nov  4 14:13:15 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-2932): Exiting
Nov  4 14:13:15 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: Not cloning cgroup for unused
subsystem ns
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): starting
(version 2.22.0), pid 3121 user 'xguest'
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): Resolved address
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration
source at position 0
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): Resolved address
"xml:readwrite:/home/xguest/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at
position 1
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (xguest-3121): Resolved address
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration
source at position 2
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: type=1400
audit(1225825996.389:5): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3148
comm="dbus-daemon" path="socket:[37602]" dev=sockfs ino=37602
scontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0
tcontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_t:s0 tclass=unix_stream_socket
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 ssh-agent[3166]: error: setrlimit
RLIMIT_CORE: Permission denied
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 acpid: client connected from 3229[0:0]
Nov  4 14:13:17 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: mtrr: base(0xd000) is not
aligned on a size(0x3e8) boundary
Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): starting (version
2.22.0), pid 3258 user 'gdm'
Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration
source at position 0
Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system" to a read-only configuration
source at position 1
Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
"xml:readonly:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf.mandatory" to a read-only configuration
source at position 2
Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
"xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at
position 3
Nov  4 14:13:18 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Resolved address
"xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration
source at position 4
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Error setting value
for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay': Can't overwrite
existing read-only value: Value for
`/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a read-only source
at the front of your configuration path
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 gconfd (gdm-3258): Error setting value
for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay': Can't overwrite
existing read-only value: Value for
`/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a read-only source
at the front of your configuration path
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: polkit.c: Cannot set
UID on session object.
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c: Called SUID
root and real-time/high-priority scheduling was requested in the
configuration. However, we lack the necessary priviliges:
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c: We are not
in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us priviliges. Dropping
SUID again.
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c: For enabling
real-time scheduling please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit priviliges, or
become a member of 'pulse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO
resource limits for this user.
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c:
setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: main.c:
setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted
Nov  4 14:13:19 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 pulseaudio[3307]: alsa-util.c: Device
front:0 doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 44099 Hz.

Obviously, the things that stick out in there are the :

Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: type=1400
audit(1225825996.389:5): avc:  denied  { read write } for  pid=3148
comm="dbus-daemon" path="socket:[37602]" dev=sockfs ino=37602
scontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0
tcontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_t:s0 tclass=unix_stream_socket
Nov  4 14:13:16 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 ssh-agent[3166]: error: setrlimit
RLIMIT_CORE: Permission denied

and:

Nov  4 14:13:15 dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 kernel: Not cloning cgroup for unused
subsystem ns

more specifically, the sealert says:

SELinux is preventing dbus-daemon (xguest_dbusd_t) "read write" to socket
(xguest_t).



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Matt Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> yes, all upto date. a new build from my kickstart is finishing updating
> right now (had to add oddjob/turn it on by default). Once its done I'll send
> what info I 

Re: ATA Problem with Kernel 2.6.26.6-79

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:23:29 -0700
"Andrig T. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So why doesn't this happen when I boot the older kernel, and the performance
> of my system is back to normal, and there is no wait time (was near 100%
> before)?

Good question - different readahead possibly meaning that the bad sector
is or is not getting touched. You need to look at the smart data as that
will show the exact command that caused the error, the number of known
bad blocks on the disk and the like.

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No Sound in FC 8

2008-11-04 Thread Jim

FC 8/ KDE

Using a SB Live EMU10K1, snd-emu10k1 module .

If I run the SoundCard Detection Tool , It will play sound.

If I try to play FlashPlayer on youtube.com or a  Mplayer video(I get  
video)  but I don't get any sound.


libflashsupport is installed.

If I do a Sound playback in KDE control Center I get NO Sound.

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Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Makhlin

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Armin Moradi wrote:
  

Is this turning into a religious war?



Nope - just trying to point out that there is no correct answer to
the OPs question. It depends on too many factors for the answer to
be the same in all situations. The OP has not given us enough
information to even take a guess on what would be best for him.

Mikkel
  
My original question was based on the fact that Ubuntu is used on either 
pre installed Linux systems and on what they call "Linux friendly" 
computers which Ubuntu is recommended for. So my question is why did 
they choose Ubuntu? What makes it so special? I personally like Fedora 
far better for my own personal reasons. I don't even touch my Vista 
Ultimate 64 partition any more. But again, why is the mainstream market 
choosing Ubuntu?
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[Thanks][Everything running just fine]

2008-11-04 Thread Jorge Boscan Etura
Hello

I have an hp dv6139eu laptop running F8 and this is to say that
it works just fine, it is being used 24/7, no crash.

Thank you Fedora Team!!

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Re: ATA Problem with Kernel 2.6.26.6-79

2008-11-04 Thread Andrig T. Miller
So, I should have know better.  Alan, you were correct.  While I don't have
the same performance problem under the older kernel, the error messages
started showing up, and when I ran

smartctrl -Hc /dev/sda is says my hard disk is about to fail.

Andy

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrig T. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> So why doesn't this happen when I boot the older kernel, and the
> performance of my system is back to normal, and there is no wait time (was
> near 100% before)?
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Media error is a flag raised directly by the drive. The kernel can't
>> invent it. Your drive reported an error, with data ready, the error was
>> uncorrectable.
>>
>> The smart data from the drive will provide further information on why the
>> drive logged an error and the nature of the error.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
>
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Re: selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Matt Nicholson wrote:
> Right, that did it (after i started the oddjobd service, that is).
> 
> Now, the original reason i turned selinux back on was to use
> xguestsaddly, this isn't working still...
> 
Why not?  Are you fully up2date?

xguest should be working on F9 and F10 right now.


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Re: selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
yes, all upto date. a new build from my kickstart is finishing updating
right now (had to add oddjob/turn it on by default). Once its done I'll send
what info I can.

Before i was getting an selinux alert/error, but i generated and loaded a
local policy, which took care of the selinux alert, but still didn't fix
xguest (it just bouces back out to GDM).

More coming soon. Thanks for all the help!


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> Matt Nicholson wrote:
> > Right, that did it (after i started the oddjobd service, that is).
> >
> > Now, the original reason i turned selinux back on was to use
> > xguestsaddly, this isn't working still...
> >
> Why not?  Are you fully up2date?
>
> xguest should be working on F9 and F10 right now.
>
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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Alex Makhlin

Gilboa Davara wrote:

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:54 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
  

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:45 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
  

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:


Dear list
my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable
the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.
  

So do lots of us.  Stay tuned for KDE4.2 in January.  Hopefully it will
implement this.

  

Add widget -> Folder view.
(Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts)


That is such a lame work around.  You need to explain that it doesn't
display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x.   I think this is
what the OP is asking for.
  

That's not a workaround, that is _the_ way to display icons on files
on a desktop.

in KDE 3.5, you can only have ~/Desktop , in KDE 4.x, you can have any
folder, esp. consider kioslaves. How is this a regression?



*Sigh*

You do know that he's a troll, and as such, he'll piggy-back on any
thread that looks like a good starting point for
yet-another-useless-spam-war on why-he-doesn't-like-KDE-4 and
why-Fedora-doesn't-suite-his-needs and/or
why-he-rather-switch-to-Ubuntu-but-but-rather-not-as-he-has-nothing-better-to-do,
 that will fill my junk-mail-box with 200 useless emails.

... But what I don't understand is:
Why on Earth are you playing his game?

- Gilboa


  
From what I understand is that you are trying to add icons to your 
desktop? If so then it is very easy but if I am mistaken in your 
question then please let me know.
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Re: Preventing USB automount

2008-11-04 Thread Steve Berg

> Stuart Sears wrote:
> The issue here is that it's not udev that is doing the mounting, AFAIK.
> This is done by hal - or it would happen on the console too.
>
> do you want the device nodes created at all?
> or just not mounted?
>
> you can completely disable usb storage devices using /etc/modprobe.conf,
> if you wish, just add this line to it:
>
> install usb_storage /bin/true
>
> This will prevent usb_storage devices from working (as long as
> usb_storage is not already loaded). It's a bit of a drastic solution,
> but it works fine. However, their device nodes will also not exist, so
> manual mounting is out of the question as well.
>
> The hal solution offered earlier seems like a good start if you want the
> devices to be mountable, but not automounted.
>
> There's probably a gconf key to prevent this from happening under GNOME,
> too if you'd rather. KDE will have a similar setting.

I'll likely need the device nodes to be created in case there's an admin
need.  But the user on the system should not get access to any usb storage
device.  Hence the need to only disable the automount part of the process.

A quick test of turning off haldaemon didn't prove promising.  I noticed
immediately that automounting CD's is disabled.  That's something I want
to keep working.

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Re: OT: find command permissions: how to exclude dir?

2008-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer

Dave Burns wrote:


man page on find -prune was not clear to me, but I tried all combos I
can think of, nothing works as I'd wish:

...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns -name .gvfs -prune
find: /users/tburns/.gvfs: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns -prune -name .gvfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns \( -prune -name .gvfs \)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns \( -name .gvfs -prune \)
find: /users/tburns/.gvfs: Permission denied


You need to tell find what to do with files not named .gvfs:

find /users/tburns -name .gvfs -prune -o -print


And now that I've logged out & back in and .gvfs is mounted again, I
can test the other suggested workaround involving remount. This also
does not work for me, though I may be giving the wrong form of mount
command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo mount -o remount -o exec -o suid  -o rw 
/users/tburns/.gvfs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo find /users/tburns/.gvfs
find: /users/tburns/.gvfs: Permission denied


I'm not sure what was mounted in the examples mentioned earlier.  My 
understanding of FUSE is that the process providing the FS is the one 
that must perform the mount.  Remounting manually should mount nothing.


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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 11:54 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:45 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
> >> > Dear list
> >> > my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable
> >> > the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.
> >
> > So do lots of us.  Stay tuned for KDE4.2 in January.  Hopefully it will
> > implement this.
> >
> >> Add widget -> Folder view.
> >> (Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts)
> >
> > That is such a lame work around.  You need to explain that it doesn't
> > display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x.   I think this is
> > what the OP is asking for.
> 
> 
> That's not a workaround, that is _the_ way to display icons on files
> on a desktop.
> 
> in KDE 3.5, you can only have ~/Desktop , in KDE 4.x, you can have any
> folder, esp. consider kioslaves. How is this a regression?

*Sigh*

You do know that he's a troll, and as such, he'll piggy-back on any
thread that looks like a good starting point for
yet-another-useless-spam-war on why-he-doesn't-like-KDE-4 and
why-Fedora-doesn't-suite-his-needs and/or
why-he-rather-switch-to-Ubuntu-but-but-rather-not-as-he-has-nothing-better-to-do,
 that will fill my junk-mail-box with 200 useless emails.

... But what I don't understand is:
Why on Earth are you playing his game?

- Gilboa


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init does not respawn mgetty

2008-11-04 Thread Don Russell
I created a new file in /etc/event.d in the hope that mgetty would be
started automatically, and respawned when it ends.

Well, it starts fine on system restart, but when mgetty ends, that's
it... no respawn. :-(

This is Fedora 9

I created this ttyS1 file in /etc/event.d, which I modeled after an
existing file (tty1)  :

# ttyS1 - mgetty
#
# This service maintains an mgetty on ttyS1 from the point the system is
# started until it is shut down again.

# DNR 2008-10-29
description "mgetty for Caller ID modem"

start on stopped rc2
start on stopped rc3
start on stopped rc4
start on stopped rc5
start on started prefdm

stop on runlevel 0
stop on runlevel 1
stop on runlevel 6

exec /usr/local/sbin/mgetty -n 2 ttyS1
respawn


But, after mgetty answers an incoming call, and ends... it is not
respawned... so a second call is never answered.

Where do I find documentation on the contents of these files in
/etc/event.d or is there a different mechanism I should be using for
such things?

Thanks

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Re: ATA Problem with Kernel 2.6.26.6-79

2008-11-04 Thread Andrig T. Miller
So why doesn't this happen when I boot the older kernel, and the performance
of my system is back to normal, and there is no wait time (was near 100%
before)?

Andy

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Media error is a flag raised directly by the drive. The kernel can't
> invent it. Your drive reported an error, with data ready, the error was
> uncorrectable.
>
> The smart data from the drive will provide further information on why the
> drive logged an error and the nature of the error.
>
> Alan
>
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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:45 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
>> > Dear list
>> > my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable
>> > the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.
>
> So do lots of us.  Stay tuned for KDE4.2 in January.  Hopefully it will
> implement this.
>
>> Add widget -> Folder view.
>> (Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts)
>
> That is such a lame work around.  You need to explain that it doesn't
> display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x.   I think this is
> what the OP is asking for.


That's not a workaround, that is _the_ way to display icons on files
on a desktop.

in KDE 3.5, you can only have ~/Desktop , in KDE 4.x, you can have any
folder, esp. consider kioslaves. How is this a regression?

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Oracle 11g1 is installed...little way to go yet

2008-11-04 Thread Fred Silsbee
somebody was asking about 11g1 on F9

otn.oracle.com is a great support site

my battle is there in a few posts & answers

Mysterious problems I saw years ago!

http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/11g/OracleDB11gR1InstallationOnFedora8.php

http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/install.111/b32281/toc.htm

beware Oracle sites that start off with:

>runInstaller


  

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Re: selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
Right, that did it (after i started the oddjobd service, that is).

Now, the original reason i turned selinux back on was to use
xguestsaddly, this isn't working still...

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Daniel J Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Matt Nicholson wrote:
> > So, I have an environment, where we pull user data/auth from
> ldap/kerberos
> > for a bunch of fedora workstations. I would love to have selinux turned
> on
> > on these, but, right now it jsut doesn't work with our setup.
> >
> > See, your users home directories are in a few different places. for the
> most
> > part, LDAP think their home is at /n/home, or /n/data/home. So, i have
> /home
> > bind mounted to those locations, and, sith selinux off, its all nice and
> > happy. Another weird thing, is that /home is local on these workstations,
> so
> > when a user sits at a workstation for the first time, an empty homedir
> must
> > be created. We hope to move to nfs /home soon, but not yet.
> >
> Can you look at using pam_oddjob_mkhomedir rather then pam_mkhomedir
>
> yum install oddjob\*
>
> Should fix the problem.
>
> > once i turn it on, however, users cannot log in, and the home directoies
> > cannot be created. I get selinux messages like:
> >
> > Summary:
> >
> > SELinux is preventing sshd (sshd_t) "create" to ./nichols2 (home_root_t).
> >
> > Detailed Description:
> >
> > SELinux denied access requested by sshd. It is not expected that this
> access
> > is
> > required by sshd and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is
> also
> > possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
> > causing it to require additional access.
> >
> > Allowing Access:
> >
> > Sometimes labeling problems can cause SELinux denials. You could try to
> > restore
> > the default system file context for ./nichols2,
> >
> > restorecon -v './nichols2'
> >
> > If this does not work, there is currently no automatic way to allow this
> > access.
> > Instead, you can generate a local policy module to allow this access -
> see
> > FAQ
> > (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can
> > disable
> > SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not
> > recommended.
> > Please file a bug report (
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> > against this package.
> >
> > Additional Information:
> >
> > Source Contextsystem_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> > Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:home_root_t:s0
> > Target Objects./nichols2 [ dir ]
> > Sourcesshd
> > Source Path   /usr/sbin/sshd
> > Port  
> > Host  dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
> > Source RPM Packages   openssh-server-5.1p1-2.fc9
> > Target RPM Packages
> > Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.3.1-103.fc9
> > Selinux Enabled   True
> > Policy Type   targeted
> > MLS Enabled   True
> > Enforcing ModeEnforcing
> > Plugin Name   catchall_file
> > Host Name dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
> > Platform  Linux dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
> > 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686
> >   #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 14:52:14 EDT 2008 i686
> i686
> > Alert Count   1
> > First SeenTue Nov  4 10:49:41 2008
> > Last Seen Tue Nov  4 10:49:41 2008
> > Local ID  803e925f-1d6e-4473-9054-dbaf0c0f3abd
> > Line Numbers
> >
> > Raw Audit Messages
> >
> > host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=AVC msg=audit(1225813781.838:89): avc:
> > denied  { create } for  pid=4956 comm="sshd" name="nichols2"
> > scontext=system_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> > tcontext=system_u:object_r:home_root_t:s0 tclass=dir
> >
> > host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225813781.838:89):
> > arch=4003 syscall=39 success=no exit=-13 a0=b9b4f058 a1=1ed a2=8209e4
> > a3=b9b7d230 items=0 ppid=2341 pid=4956 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0
> > suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295
> comm="sshd"
> > exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" subj=system_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> key=(null)
> >
> > Thats for an ssh login attempt. I get the same for one via GDM. I've
> tried
> > adding "context=system_r:object_r:home_root_t" when i bind mount the
> /home
> > on /n/home etc, and no luck so far. do I need to relabel /n ? what/how
> > should I? any help would be awesome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
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Re: Preventing USB automount

2008-11-04 Thread Stuart Sears
Steve Berg wrote:
> john wendel wrote:
>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:18:55 -0600 (CST)
>>> "Steve Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Is there an easy rule to create for udev that will turn off that
> function?
>> Or you could take the easy way out (like I do), "chkconfig haldaemon
> off". I don't miss it at all.
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
> Yep, that does work, unfortunately it also breaks a few things I don't
> want to break
> 
> So far I've managed to tweak the rule in 50-udev-default.rules so I at
> least get an email notification that a usb device has been attached.  Now
> I need to do that and prevent the mounting of said device.

The issue here is that it's not udev that is doing the mounting, AFAIK.
This is done by hal - or it would happen on the console too.

do you want the device nodes created at all?
or just not mounted?

you can completely disable usb storage devices using /etc/modprobe.conf,
if you wish, just add this line to it:

install usb_storage /bin/true

This will prevent usb_storage devices from working (as long as
usb_storage is not already loaded). It's a bit of a drastic solution,
but it works fine. However, their device nodes will also not exist, so
manual mounting is out of the question as well.

> Maybe somebody can offer advice on this:  If I leave the libusb section in
> 50-udev-default.rules file and put my new rule that does notification in a
> 20-local.rules I understand that the 20 file is a higher priority.  But
> does that also mean that if a new device gets a hit in the 20 file that it
> will ignore the rule in 50?  Or should I be commenting out the libusb
> entry in 50 so it's disabled and only the 20-local.rules file will take
> action?

The hal solution offered earlier seems like a good start if you want the
devices to be mountable, but not automounted.

There's probably a gconf key to prevent this from happening under GNOME,
too if you'd rather. KDE will have a similar setting.


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Re: ATA Problem with Kernel 2.6.26.6-79

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Cox
Media error is a flag raised directly by the drive. The kernel can't
invent it. Your drive reported an error, with data ready, the error was
uncorrectable.

The smart data from the drive will provide further information on why the
drive logged an error and the nature of the error.

Alan

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Re: Non-kde app launcher in KDE4 F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Rex Dieter
Claude Jones wrote:

> On Sun November 2 2008 4:37:55 pm Mike wrote:
>> I must have missed something I have been trying out KDE4 in a fully
>> updated F9 system.
>>
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, what you seek to do is trivial. Right-click
> on the application menu button on the left of the panel; select 'Menu
> Editor' and off you go. 

Ah, "Sokath, his eyes uncovered/opened"

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Re: fancyheadings.sty in F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Globe Trotter



--- On Tue, 11/4/08, François Patte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: François Patte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: fancyheadings.sty in F9?
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for 
> using Fedora." 
> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 2:58 AM
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> Le 04.11.2008 06:38, Globe Trotter a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have an old LaTeX document which uses fancyheadings
> package. It
> > used to be in the tetex distributions. However, it
> does not appear to
> > be around in TeXlive on F9. What are my alternatives?
> > 
> 
> Try fancyhdr

Thanks very much! This does work.

Best,
Trotter


  

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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Linuxguy123

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 18:45 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
> > Dear list
> > my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable
> > the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.

So do lots of us.  Stay tuned for KDE4.2 in January.  Hopefully it will
implement this.

> Add widget -> Folder view.
> (Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts)

That is such a lame work around.  You need to explain that it doesn't
display icons on the desktop as they were in KDE3.5.x.   I think this is
what the OP is asking for. 

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ATA Problem with Kernel 2.6.26.6-79

2008-11-04 Thread Andrig T. Miller
After booting the with the latest 2.6.26.6-79 kernel on Fedora 9, my system
became extremely slow.  To the point that Gnome menus would take 20-30
seconds just to drop down.  Loading  applications as simple as gedit would
take a minute or two.  In looking into this problem, I opened a terminal and
started top.  It showed my system at nearly 100% wait time on the CPU.  Then
I started poking around the logs (/var/log/messages), and I kept seeing the
following errors, repeat over and over again:

Nov  4 03:08:54 localhost kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr
0x0 action 0x0
Nov  4 03:08:54 localhost kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24
Nov  4 03:08:54 localhost kernel: ata1.00: cmd
c8/00:a0:09:9a:3d/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 81920 in
Nov  4 03:08:54 localhost kernel: res 51/40:00:18:9a:3d/00:00:00:00:00/e0
Emask 0x9 (media error)
Nov  4 03:08:54 localhost kernel: ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
Nov  4 03:08:54 localhost kernel: ata1.00: error: { UNC }
Nov  4 03:10:48 localhost kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
Nov  4 03:10:48 localhost kernel: ata1: EH complete

So, I thought I had my hard disk failing, and I was very concerned.  I found
some posts where others were having the same problem, but no one really
thought it was an issue.  All the other posts where for RAID setups though,
on servers, so they may not see the interactivity issues that I was seeing.

So, as an experiment, I booted the older 2.6.26.5-45 kernel, and guess
what?  No ata error messages in /var/log, and the responsiveness of my
system has returned to normal.

This clearly looks like a bug in the ata code somewhere to me.

Any ideas?
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Re: Telnet Confusion (was Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving : telnet weirdness)

2008-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:43 +, Beartooth wrote:
>   This is the second half of a reply to Craig White's post below, 
> put into a new thread because it has departed so far from the original 
> topic. I'm discovering great new stuff -- new to me, that is -- and I 
> want to draw maximal attention to it from others who may be in shoes like 
> mine.
> 
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:08:11 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>   [...]
> > I fear that you still don't get it.
> > 
> > This is a rather cool blog about 'Trivial uses for Telnet'...
> > http://evolvedcode.net/content/doc_alttelnet/
> > 
> > which talks about how to use telnet client application to connect to a
> > web server or a pop3 server or an smtp server and talk to the server as
> > if you were just another application communicating with that server so
> > you can test things out or just familiarize yourself with the process
> > itself.
> 
>   Indeed! I just sang its praises in the first half of this reply, 
> on the original thread.
>  
> > Obviously telnet to the cups port (631) is very much similar as the
> > others (SMTP/POP3/HTTP) except that like the others, the cups server has
> > its own vocabulary.
> 
>   Ah, if only I had known, back when I was teaching baby language 
> courses, what vast argots the various branches of Computer Science would 
> develop -- once it came into existence, of course.
> 
> > In essence, every time you open a web browser and tell it to go to a
> > specific web site, you are doing something similar to opening a
> > connection to that web site with telnet on port 80 (ignoring of course
> > the web browser rendering engine, javascript, etc.).
> 
>   Ignoring a lot of things I wouldn't know if they bit me never 
> mind where, to be sure.
> 
>   But in the present context, there seem to be some I can't ignore 
> -- some that (afaict) reflect the settings on my terminal, and some that 
> are apparently matters of notation and vocabulary.
> 
>   Thus for instance, following along the second paragraph, about 
> NetCat -- or rather, trying to follow -- I get this : 
> 
> = =   =   =
> telnet> NC -v -v {address} {port}^[[D^[[D^[[D^H^H^H^H^H^[[3~^C
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet
> telnet> ^[[A^[[D^C
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ NC -v -v 192.168.0.8 631
> bash: NC: command not found
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet
> telnet> NC -v -v 192.168.0.8 631
> ?Invalid command
> telnet> NC -v -v {192.168.0.8} {631}
> ?Invalid command
> telnet>
>   =   =   =   =
> 
>   If only by trial and error, I think I can set up a different 
> terminal emulation (xterm instead of my usual gnome terminal, for 
> instance, which is configured primarily for Alpine), and avoid all that 
> gibberish caused by trying to use the backspace and arrow keys.
> 
>   But it isn't obvious to me, unless I haven't had enough coffee 
> yet, why the last two commands are both invalid. All that's obvious is 
> that, despite Mr. Welsh's exemplary lucidity, I am reading his text 
> otherwise than he expects.

the author was writing from a 'Windows' perspective and Windows and
Macintosh are not case-sensitive operating systems. 

The command telnet or TELNET or TeLnEt on Windows would launch the same
telnet program as case has no meaning on Windows. On Linux, you would
have to have an exact match because telnet, TELNET and TeLnEt are
potentially 3 different programs and only an exact match would matter.

The command nc (or NC in the case insensitive Windows world), refers to
the 'netcat' program which is a telnet on super steroids. I would
suggest that for the time being at least, you ignore netcat and just use
telnet.

Craig

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Re: kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:54 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote:
> Dear list
> my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable
> the icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.
> 
> Regards
> Adel

Add widget -> Folder view.
(Can be configured to view a certain directory with .desktop shortcuts)

- Gilboa

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Telnet Confusion (was Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving : telnet weirdness)

2008-11-04 Thread Beartooth
This is the second half of a reply to Craig White's post below, 
put into a new thread because it has departed so far from the original 
topic. I'm discovering great new stuff -- new to me, that is -- and I 
want to draw maximal attention to it from others who may be in shoes like 
mine.

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:08:11 -0700, Craig White wrote:
[...]
> I fear that you still don't get it.
> 
> This is a rather cool blog about 'Trivial uses for Telnet'...
> http://evolvedcode.net/content/doc_alttelnet/
> 
> which talks about how to use telnet client application to connect to a
> web server or a pop3 server or an smtp server and talk to the server as
> if you were just another application communicating with that server so
> you can test things out or just familiarize yourself with the process
> itself.

Indeed! I just sang its praises in the first half of this reply, 
on the original thread.
 
> Obviously telnet to the cups port (631) is very much similar as the
> others (SMTP/POP3/HTTP) except that like the others, the cups server has
> its own vocabulary.

Ah, if only I had known, back when I was teaching baby language 
courses, what vast argots the various branches of Computer Science would 
develop -- once it came into existence, of course.

> In essence, every time you open a web browser and tell it to go to a
> specific web site, you are doing something similar to opening a
> connection to that web site with telnet on port 80 (ignoring of course
> the web browser rendering engine, javascript, etc.).

Ignoring a lot of things I wouldn't know if they bit me never 
mind where, to be sure.

But in the present context, there seem to be some I can't ignore 
-- some that (afaict) reflect the settings on my terminal, and some that 
are apparently matters of notation and vocabulary.

Thus for instance, following along the second paragraph, about 
NetCat -- or rather, trying to follow -- I get this : 

=   =   =   =
telnet> NC -v -v {address} {port}^[[D^[[D^[[D^H^H^H^H^H^[[3~^C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet
telnet> ^[[A^[[D^C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ NC -v -v 192.168.0.8 631
bash: NC: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet
telnet> NC -v -v 192.168.0.8 631
?Invalid command
telnet> NC -v -v {192.168.0.8} {631}
?Invalid command
telnet>
=   =   =   =

If only by trial and error, I think I can set up a different 
terminal emulation (xterm instead of my usual gnome terminal, for 
instance, which is configured primarily for Alpine), and avoid all that 
gibberish caused by trying to use the backspace and arrow keys.

But it isn't obvious to me, unless I haven't had enough coffee 
yet, why the last two commands are both invalid. All that's obvious is 
that, despite Mr. Welsh's exemplary lucidity, I am reading his text 
otherwise than he expects.

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Re: Can't load cpuspeed

2008-11-04 Thread Alessandro Boggiano

g ha scritto:


you have module and 'lsmod|grep cpufreq' will show if it is loaded

No, it's not!



in your first post, you wrote;
+++
FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq
(/lib/modules/2.6.26.6-49.fc8/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko):
No such device
+++
is this from boot or 'modprobe acpi-cpufreq'?
From modprobe! As you have seen I prefer start the service cpuspeed by 
hand in a terminal!


Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb selinux=0 debug acpi=force 
cpufreq.debug=7


remove 'debug' from kernel command line.

Why? Some particolar reason? I like then linux talks to me! ;)




dmesg |grep -i proc

Detected 1600.066 MHz processor.
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...Ok.
CPU0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.60GHz stepping 08
Total of 1 processors activated (3201.64 BogoMIPS).
*speedstep-ich: Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) capable processor not found* <---
ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports 8 throttling states)


if i read this right, you have 8 steps of cpu clock, but not 'speedstep'.
not familiar with 'speedstep'. suggest you use *linux google'

That's right!
I found different things about Celeron!
Here the guy says that it worked:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Extensa_5200#CPU_frequency_scaling
but here:
http://osdir.com/ml/linux.kernel.cpufreq/2004-02/msg00092.html
It gives me no hopes!!! :(

I remember it worked at installing time, I'm sure!
I'd like to hear from some "guru", that it changed by purpouse, so I can 
give up and "rest in peace"! ;)


Thanks a lot for your help,mate!
Alessandro
p.s: Now the next thread will be "how can I slow down the damn fan?" ;)





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Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving : telnet weirdness : i

2008-11-04 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:08:11 -0700, Craig White wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 21:05 +, Beartooth wrote:
[...]
>>  Then I won't telnet into the box. After all, I never have.
>> 
> 
> I fear that you still don't get it.

Likely enough, at any time. I've thanked whatever gods there be, 
more times than I can count, for linux in general and this list in 
especial. 

> This is a rather cool blog about 'Trivial uses for Telnet'...
> http://evolvedcode.net/content/doc_alttelnet/
> 
> which talks about how to use telnet client application to connect to a
> web server or a pop3 server or an smtp server and talk to the server as
> if you were just another application communicating with that server so
> you can test things out or just familiarize yourself with the process
> itself.

On a subject where, just for once, I do have a professional 
opinion (as a historian of literature and of tongues), I have to say that 
is one of the best-written pages I have seen in many years on the Web. 
Many, many thanks for pointing it out! I'm in process of passing the word 
about it to several other lists.

And at this point I have to beg your forgiveness in advance; I'm 
going to start another thread, called Telnet Confusion, to recognize the 
shift in original topic (and to make Pan indent things more visibly!).

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Re: selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Matt Nicholson wrote:
> So, I have an environment, where we pull user data/auth from ldap/kerberos
> for a bunch of fedora workstations. I would love to have selinux turned on
> on these, but, right now it jsut doesn't work with our setup.
> 
> See, your users home directories are in a few different places. for the most
> part, LDAP think their home is at /n/home, or /n/data/home. So, i have /home
> bind mounted to those locations, and, sith selinux off, its all nice and
> happy. Another weird thing, is that /home is local on these workstations, so
> when a user sits at a workstation for the first time, an empty homedir must
> be created. We hope to move to nfs /home soon, but not yet.
> 
Can you look at using pam_oddjob_mkhomedir rather then pam_mkhomedir

yum install oddjob\*

Should fix the problem.

> once i turn it on, however, users cannot log in, and the home directoies
> cannot be created. I get selinux messages like:
> 
> Summary:
> 
> SELinux is preventing sshd (sshd_t) "create" to ./nichols2 (home_root_t).
> 
> Detailed Description:
> 
> SELinux denied access requested by sshd. It is not expected that this access
> is
> required by sshd and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
> possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
> causing it to require additional access.
> 
> Allowing Access:
> 
> Sometimes labeling problems can cause SELinux denials. You could try to
> restore
> the default system file context for ./nichols2,
> 
> restorecon -v './nichols2'
> 
> If this does not work, there is currently no automatic way to allow this
> access.
> Instead, you can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see
> FAQ
> (http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can
> disable
> SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not
> recommended.
> Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
> against this package.
> 
> Additional Information:
> 
> Source Contextsystem_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:home_root_t:s0
> Target Objects./nichols2 [ dir ]
> Sourcesshd
> Source Path   /usr/sbin/sshd
> Port  
> Host  dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
> Source RPM Packages   openssh-server-5.1p1-2.fc9
> Target RPM Packages
> Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.3.1-103.fc9
> Selinux Enabled   True
> Policy Type   targeted
> MLS Enabled   True
> Enforcing ModeEnforcing
> Plugin Name   catchall_file
> Host Name dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
> Platform  Linux dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
> 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686
>   #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 14:52:14 EDT 2008 i686 i686
> Alert Count   1
> First SeenTue Nov  4 10:49:41 2008
> Last Seen Tue Nov  4 10:49:41 2008
> Local ID  803e925f-1d6e-4473-9054-dbaf0c0f3abd
> Line Numbers
> 
> Raw Audit Messages
> 
> host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=AVC msg=audit(1225813781.838:89): avc:
> denied  { create } for  pid=4956 comm="sshd" name="nichols2"
> scontext=system_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:home_root_t:s0 tclass=dir
> 
> host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225813781.838:89):
> arch=4003 syscall=39 success=no exit=-13 a0=b9b4f058 a1=1ed a2=8209e4
> a3=b9b7d230 items=0 ppid=2341 pid=4956 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0
> suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="sshd"
> exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" subj=system_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
> 
> Thats for an ssh login attempt. I get the same for one via GDM. I've tried
> adding "context=system_r:object_r:home_root_t" when i bind mount the /home
> on /n/home etc, and no luck so far. do I need to relabel /n ? what/how
> should I? any help would be awesome.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matt
> 
> 

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selinux question(s) (/home really = /n/home..)

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
So, I have an environment, where we pull user data/auth from ldap/kerberos
for a bunch of fedora workstations. I would love to have selinux turned on
on these, but, right now it jsut doesn't work with our setup.

See, your users home directories are in a few different places. for the most
part, LDAP think their home is at /n/home, or /n/data/home. So, i have /home
bind mounted to those locations, and, sith selinux off, its all nice and
happy. Another weird thing, is that /home is local on these workstations, so
when a user sits at a workstation for the first time, an empty homedir must
be created. We hope to move to nfs /home soon, but not yet.

once i turn it on, however, users cannot log in, and the home directoies
cannot be created. I get selinux messages like:

Summary:

SELinux is preventing sshd (sshd_t) "create" to ./nichols2 (home_root_t).

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by sshd. It is not expected that this access
is
required by sshd and this access may signal an intrusion attempt. It is also
possible that the specific version or configuration of the application is
causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

Sometimes labeling problems can cause SELinux denials. You could try to
restore
the default system file context for ./nichols2,

restorecon -v './nichols2'

If this does not work, there is currently no automatic way to allow this
access.
Instead, you can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see
FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can
disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not
recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Contextsystem_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:home_root_t:s0
Target Objects./nichols2 [ dir ]
Sourcesshd
Source Path   /usr/sbin/sshd
Port  
Host  dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
Source RPM Packages   openssh-server-5.1p1-2.fc9
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.3.1-103.fc9
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
MLS Enabled   True
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Plugin Name   catchall_file
Host Name dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
Platform  Linux dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686
  #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 14:52:14 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count   1
First SeenTue Nov  4 10:49:41 2008
Last Seen Tue Nov  4 10:49:41 2008
Local ID  803e925f-1d6e-4473-9054-dbaf0c0f3abd
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages

host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=AVC msg=audit(1225813781.838:89): avc:
denied  { create } for  pid=4956 comm="sshd" name="nichols2"
scontext=system_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:object_r:home_root_t:s0 tclass=dir

host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225813781.838:89):
arch=4003 syscall=39 success=no exit=-13 a0=b9b4f058 a1=1ed a2=8209e4
a3=b9b7d230 items=0 ppid=2341 pid=4956 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0
suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295 comm="sshd"
exe="/usr/sbin/sshd" subj=system_u:system_r:sshd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)

Thats for an ssh login attempt. I get the same for one via GDM. I've tried
adding "context=system_r:object_r:home_root_t" when i bind mount the /home
on /n/home etc, and no luck so far. do I need to relabel /n ? what/how
should I? any help would be awesome.

Thanks,

Matt
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Re: screen + vim + paste -> not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

Les Mikesell wrote:
This may not solve your problem, but just in general I find it much 
nicer to use freenx and the NX client from www.nomachine.com for the 


Thanks for the suggestion but that's not really an option here - many of 
the systems I'm logging into don't have the requisite bits available to 
use freenx and are not under my direct control. Using one host as a 
"gateway" where all the terminal windows live would also be a bit 
restrictive for the way that I work.


I'm guess I'm pretty settled in my ways with screen etc. and it fits 
nicely into the way I like to organise my work. Screen did not have this 
behavior back in FC6, so it appears that something changed in the meantime.


 If you haven't tried it, it is much more responsive on remote 
connections than other remote X approaches and cross platform clients 
are easy to install.


I've tried FreeNX and for what it does, it's definitely a big step up 
from vnc etc., but I'd still like screen to work the way it used to - 
it's a bit of a "from my cold dead hands" issue I guess :-)


Regards,
Bryn.

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kde desktop icons

2008-11-04 Thread Adel ESSAFI
Dear list
my question is simple: I use KDE with fedora 9 and I want to enable the
icons on the desktop. Now, I have only the backgroup pic.

Regards
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freenx 7.3

2008-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Does anyone have step-by-step instructions for using freenx 7.3's 
ability to remotely mirror the console session?  I'm trying to do it 
under Centos but maybe someone here has more experience with it.  I can 
mirror a non-console freenx session to 2 remote connections but haven't 
been able to get a connection to the console session.  If I say I want a 
vnc session I can see mirroring the console as a choice but haven't been 
able to make it connect.


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Java plugin stopped working.

2008-11-04 Thread Steve
I'm using 2.22.2 of ephipany and my java plugin seems to have stopped working 
presumably as a result of a recent update 
(nspluginwrapper-1.1.2.2.fc9.x86_64?). 

If I go to this site:

http://www.javatester.org/index.html

then select the Java Version tab, it says "Browser has Java disabled" . On the 
privacy tab of the Prefereces option from the Edit menu in Ephipany I see that 
I have both Java and Javascript enabled.

If I go to the Javascript tab of the above site,  it tells me that java scrip 
is working and that I have Javascript version 1.8 and Firefox version 3.0.

# rpm -qa | grep java
java_cup-0.10-0.k.6jpp.2.x86_64
tzdata-java-2008i-1.fc9.noarch
java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-21.fc9.x86_64
java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.18.b09.fc9.x86_64
glib-java-0.2.6-12.fc9.x86_64
java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.18.b09.fc9.i386

# java -versionjava version "1.6.0"
OpenJDK  Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0-b09, mixed mode)

Any hints? Do I need to install Sun's java?

Steve

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Re: screen + vim + paste -> not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell

Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

Dave Feustel wrote:

Have you tried pasting into vim running in an xterm session?
(Past the text by going into insert and then pressing shift+insert).


Yes - running vim outside screen (xterm, gnome-terminal etc.) works 
fine. Running it in screen, in either an xterm or a gnome-terminal gives 
the problematic behaviour. Xorg CPU usage is noticably higher with 
gnome-terminal and the delay (several minutes for gnome-terminal) 
between pasting and some text appearing in the editor feels slightly 
less, but the same basic problem persists.


There is no problem when pasting into vim running in a plain xterm (no 
screen).


This may not solve your problem, but just in general I find it much 
nicer to use freenx and the NX client from www.nomachine.com for the 
things I might otherwise have done with screen.  That is, leave a 
desktop running under freenx on a stable, well connected machine with an 
assortment of terminal windows, perhaps ssh'd to other systems.  You can 
disconnect the NX client with everything running and reconnect later 
even from other locations just like screen except with a full GUI 
desktop and very good remote performance after the initial screen draw. 
 If you haven't tried it, it is much more responsive on remote 
connections than other remote X approaches and cross platform clients 
are easy to install.


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Re: control-center?? -- SOLVED

2008-11-04 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:00:21 +1030, Tim wrote:

> Tim:
>>> Do you mean with the package in general, or that you didn't get a menu
>>> entry created for it?
> 
> Beartooth:
>> The latter.
> 
> Have you been editing the menus?  As well as options for adding or
> changing menu content, you can simply turn some entries on or off.

No, I haven't. I know I installed the app to do it, but I've been 
more concerned with other things, and haven't even tried it. 

I just found one, called alacarte. On the machines without the 
Control Center on the panel, sure enough, it was unchecked there, God 
knows why. So I checked it, and various other intriguing stuff besides.

Anyway, I have it now. 

Many, many thanks!

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Re: Preventing USB automount

2008-11-04 Thread Steve Berg
john wendel wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:18:55 -0600 (CST)
>> "Steve Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there an easy rule to create for udev that will turn off that
function?
>
> Or you could take the easy way out (like I do), "chkconfig haldaemon
off". I don't miss it at all.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
Yep, that does work, unfortunately it also breaks a few things I don't
want to break

So far I've managed to tweak the rule in 50-udev-default.rules so I at
least get an email notification that a usb device has been attached.  Now
I need to do that and prevent the mounting of said device.

Maybe somebody can offer advice on this:  If I leave the libusb section in
50-udev-default.rules file and put my new rule that does notification in a
20-local.rules I understand that the 20 file is a higher priority.  But
does that also mean that if a new device gets a hit in the 20 file that it
will ignore the rule in 50?  Or should I be commenting out the libusb
entry in 50 so it's disabled and only the 20-local.rules file will take
action?

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Re: fedora 9/10 Guest account?

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
Hmm, doesn't seem to be working:

This is on a fully updated F9 install, selinux in enforcing mode, xguest
installed. When trying to login at the Guest user:

Summary:

SELinux is preventing dbus-daemon (xguest_dbusd_t) "read write" to socket
(xguest_t).

Detailed Description:

SELinux denied access requested by dbus-daemon. It is not expected that this
access is required by dbus-daemon and this access may signal an intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration of
the
application is causing it to require additional access.

Allowing Access:

You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can
disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not
recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.

Additional Information:

Source Contextxguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0
Target Contextxguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_t:s0
Target Objectssocket [ unix_stream_socket ]
Sourcedbus-daemon
Source Path   /bin/dbus-daemon
Port  
Host  dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
Source RPM Packages   dbus-1.2.4-1.fc9
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.3.1-103.fc9
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
MLS Enabled   True
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Plugin Name   catchall
Host Name dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
Platform  Linux dhcp-0016533596-c5-74
2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686
  #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 14:52:14 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count   1
First SeenTue Nov  4 10:20:32 2008
Last Seen Tue Nov  4 10:20:32 2008
Local ID  6306343f-6166-4ca6-ada5-770e4c3a3a91
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages

host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=AVC msg=audit(1225812032.80:22): avc:
denied  { read write } for  pid=2820 comm="dbus-daemon"
path="socket:[29372]" dev=sockfs ino=29372
scontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0
tcontext=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_t:s0 tclass=unix_stream_socket

host=dhcp-0016533596-c5-74 type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1225812032.80:22):
arch=4003 syscall=11 success=yes exit=0 a0=804c8f7 a1=bfcd858c
a2=bfcd99b4 a3=7 items=0 ppid=2819 pid=2820 auid=35027 uid=35027 gid=35027
euid=35027 suid=35027 fsuid=35027 egid=35027 sgid=35027 fsgid=35027
tty=(none) ses=2 comm="dbus-daemon" exe="/bin/dbus-daemon"
subj=xguest_u:xguest_r:xguest_dbusd_t:s0 key=(null)



Any help/ideas?
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Matt Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hmm, interesting. I'm rebuilding my image with that package installed, and
> selinux in enforcing mode on a test vm right now, and I'll see how it goes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Doncho N. Gunchev <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Matt Nicholson wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking to get a guest account setup, possibly on a whole host of
>>> workstations I run running F9.
>>> These workstations auth against and ldap/kerberos setup we have, fyi.
>>>
>>> so far, my idea is to create a local "guest" user, and user pam_mount to
>>> create a tmpfs home directory for the guest user on login, so that it will
>>> be removed on logout. I want this user to only be able to login though GDM.
>>>
>>> Does any one have any experiance doing something like this? is there any
>>> though of taking the Guest user system Ubutu recently implemented on?
>>>
>>> Any help/ideas would be great.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>> What about http://james-morris.livejournal.com/25640.html :-)
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Re: Why is a terminal in F9 starting in ~/Documents?

2008-11-04 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Nov 4th 2008 at 01:46 -, quoth g:

=>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
=>Hash: SHA1
=>
=>Steven W. Orr wrote:
=>
=>> Sorry, I didn't think I needed to mention it. I'm running KDE. Those must 
=>> be gnome instructions.
=>
=>no problem. i use kde also. no, they are from 'konsole'.
=>
=>my error was in my reply of 2008.1104.00:13:44 utc in that i clicked wrong
=>message and replied to paul w frields post of 2008.1103.21:33:49 utc,
=>wherein he infers his reply was for gnome. i guess he clicked wrong message
=>also.
=>
=>anyway, if this clears up what we did, great.
=>
=>so again, 'big q'. did you correct your start directory problem straightened?

No! This is a problem in the way the X server is configured. The xterm 
just starts in the directory that it's started from. It's the server 
that's in the wrong directory.

Is no one else unhappy with this?

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Re: screen + vim + paste -> not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

Dave Feustel wrote:

Have you tried pasting into vim running in an xterm session?
(Past the text by going into insert and then pressing shift+insert).


Yes - running vim outside screen (xterm, gnome-terminal etc.) works 
fine. Running it in screen, in either an xterm or a gnome-terminal gives 
the problematic behaviour. Xorg CPU usage is noticably higher with 
gnome-terminal and the delay (several minutes for gnome-terminal) 
between pasting and some text appearing in the editor feels slightly 
less, but the same basic problem persists.


There is no problem when pasting into vim running in a plain xterm (no 
screen).


Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: fedora 9/10 Guest account?

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Nicholson
Hmm, interesting. I'm rebuilding my image with that package installed, and
selinux in enforcing mode on a test vm right now, and I'll see how it goes.

Thanks,

Matt
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Doncho N. Gunchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Matt Nicholson wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to get a guest account setup, possibly on a whole host of
>> workstations I run running F9.
>> These workstations auth against and ldap/kerberos setup we have, fyi.
>>
>> so far, my idea is to create a local "guest" user, and user pam_mount to
>> create a tmpfs home directory for the guest user on login, so that it will
>> be removed on logout. I want this user to only be able to login though GDM.
>>
>> Does any one have any experiance doing something like this? is there any
>> though of taking the Guest user system Ubutu recently implemented on?
>>
>> Any help/ideas would be great.
>>
>> Matt
>>
> What about http://james-morris.livejournal.com/25640.html :-)
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Re: screen + vim + paste -> not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:17:50PM +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've hit an odd problem when pasting large amounts of text into vim
> running inside a screen session.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
>
> 1. open a new file in vim (e.g. vim /tmp/foo) and enter insert mode
> 2. select a large amount of text (a few hundred lines or so)
> 3. paste (middle click or ctrl-c/ctrl-v) into the editor
>
> At this point, Xorg CPU usage shoots up to close to 100%, the desktop
> feels very unresponsive and the terminal window that vim is running in
> flashes between a blue background with black borders and all-black.
>
> A few minutes later, some or all of the text will appear (possibly with
> some whitespace changes) in the editor and life goes back to normal. I'm
> seeing this on two different systems with different graphics drivers
> (i945 & nv).
>
> I cannot reproduce this behaviour outside of screen and I've also
> managed to make vim lock up a couple of times while running within
> screen on f9 (I don't have exact steps to reproduce this - it seems like
> some keystroke sequences trigger it but I can't make it happen at will).
>
> I'll open a bugzilla for this, but figured I'd post it here in case
> anyone's seen something similar.
>
> Regards,
> Bryn.

Have you tried pasting into vim running in an xterm session?
(Past the text by going into insert and then pressing shift+insert).

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Re: Non-kde app launcher in KDE4 F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Claude Jones
On Tue November 4 2008 4:10:22 am Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I am away from my f9 machine at present - but I will try this in the next
> day or so. Your info does relate to KDE4 in the kickoff menu, not KDE3.35 I
> presume? If this will give the ability to add a link to a script to run
> then this is what I need or a link to any third part application, or code
> that I have compiled or untarred to an area such as /opt/*
> If this will indeed create a new menu item in kickoff then getting an icon
> from there into the panel is easy.

What the menu editor does is open a display of the classic menu and allow you 
to create an icon there for any executable on your machine. Once you're done, 
that menu-item you just created will also appear in the kickoff menu, and as 
you point out, is easily deployable from there to the panel, desktop, or 
favorites list.
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screen + vim + paste -> not happy

2008-11-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

Hi Folks,

I've hit an odd problem when pasting large amounts of text into vim
running inside a screen session.

Steps to reproduce:

1. open a new file in vim (e.g. vim /tmp/foo) and enter insert mode
2. select a large amount of text (a few hundred lines or so)
3. paste (middle click or ctrl-c/ctrl-v) into the editor

At this point, Xorg CPU usage shoots up to close to 100%, the desktop
feels very unresponsive and the terminal window that vim is running in
flashes between a blue background with black borders and all-black.

A few minutes later, some or all of the text will appear (possibly with
some whitespace changes) in the editor and life goes back to normal. I'm
seeing this on two different systems with different graphics drivers
(i945 & nv).

I cannot reproduce this behaviour outside of screen and I've also
managed to make vim lock up a couple of times while running within
screen on f9 (I don't have exact steps to reproduce this - it seems like
some keystroke sequences trigger it but I can't make it happen at will).

I'll open a bugzilla for this, but figured I'd post it here in case
anyone's seen something similar.

Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: mplayer dependencies on RPM Fusion

2008-11-04 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/4/08, john wendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you ever build mplayer for the sources, you'll see that it has about
> a hundred configuration options, most of which a "normal" user doesn't
> need or want. Note that I said configuration "options", not
> "requirements" (big difference). Looks like the package maintainer has
> chosen to include them all, including the kitchen sink. But what else
> could he do?

Yes, this is a problem not just with mplayer but with a lot of
packages. For example, ghostscript used to require the whole CUPS
cruft, even if you never planned to actually print something.

>  Definitely a case where you might be better off rolling
> your own version.

Right, except that then you have to install a lot of development
packages... and enter dependency hell through another gate. Besides,
large-scale compilation on a netbook with a small SSD is something I'd
love to get by without.

Andras

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java library deps on custom build

2008-11-04 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi folks,

I've just compiled scilab on my f9 laptop and tried to run it, but get a
lot of libraries missing. Ldd says that some java libs (libjava.so,
libjvm.so) are not found. Those libraries float around
in /usr/lib/java... Shouldn't that mean that theyre found automagically
or do I really have to add every single subfolder to LD_LIBRARY_PATH?

  

 


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Re: How to stop loading sata_mv driver for HighPoint RocketRAID 2220 to install Fedora 9

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:10:34 +0800
"sfzhou"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a RocketRAID 2220 controller, and I also prepare the driver from the 
> open source

What open source ? The only driver I've seen is mostly proprietary
modules with a few bits of glue source code to build it.

> But when I start to install Fedora 9 to the controller, it always loads 
> sata_mv.ko 

Yes because that is what the devices on the controller actually are.

Alan

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Re: control-center??

2008-11-04 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> Do you mean with the package in general, or that you didn't get a
>> menu entry created for it?

Beartooth:
> The latter.

Have you been editing the menus?  As well as options for adding or
changing menu content, you can simply turn some entries on or off.

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Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-11-04 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:06 +, Beartooth wrote:
> I've followed all the kind advice in this thread, and also 
> fiddled and futzed and fooled between whiles -- chiefly by deleting 
> superfluous printers that had crept in, a finite series of them, but a
> tedious one. I kept deleting till I got down to the one right printer,
> if I could, and then configuring that, over and over. And I have a
> partial result.
> 
>  Machines #2, #3, and #4 all show my wife's printer
> downstairs, as well as another. (Machine #1 does not.) #2 and #4 have
> the other, set to default, as the real machine on #1 -- though for a
> while they kept insisting it did not exist. Machine #3 has the "other"
> printer shown with a URI saying "file: /dev/null" -- and won't let me
> remove it!

You might want to tell us specifically what you did to achieve all this,
rather than just the results.  Very little fiddling should be needed
from a fresh start, but some amount of fiddling might be needed to undo
a pre-mangled system.

On a fresh system, all you should have to do is connect a printer to the
print server computer, and let it sort itself out, or manually set that
printer up on the server.  Or a bit of both (I renamed the automatic
named printer settings to something less annoying).  Whichever way you
go, once the server can print to its own printer, it's working, and
you'd then configure the server to let the rest of the LAN make use of
it.  That's a two-parter, allowing CUPS through the firewall (*), and
configuring CUPS administration options related to sharing (**),

* On my LAN, all the PCs are trusted explicitly, so I took the easy
option of setting the firewall to trust eth0 as a whole, rather than
particular ports.  There's another barrier between the LAN and the
internet.  Firewall on each PC get in the way of print serving, and also
some print clients.  As I recall, it got in the way of automatically
discovering the print server on the LAN.  The print server can
periodically announce its presence, but the firewall stopped that.

** Share out that printer to the LAN but it doesn't need sharing to the
internet, unless you have a mixture of different isolated subnets, where
that option will allow crossing from one subnet to another.  Perhaps you
might want to allow remote administration of the server, and allow users
to cancel any jobs, but that's icing on the cake, it's not needed just
to be able to print.  You may also want the server to include printers
on other CUPS servers, if you had other ones on the premises.  But,
again, that's not needed.  And can get messy if you have several servers
publishing their own printers, plus republishing the other server's
printers.

On the clients, you shouldn't need to do anything.  They should
automatically find out about all the printers available on the LAN, and
automatically list them as printable to.  This should take a few
moments, not ages.  All you should have to do, if you had more than one
choice, would be to pick a default.

Having said that, if you're reconfiguring a system which already had
printers configured all over the place on the clients, you'd want to
remove all those configurations, and then let them find the servers by
themselves, again.





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Re: New RPMFusion dependency problem

2008-11-04 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis

On 04.11.2008 02:20, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:36:09 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:


I tried to update my F8 system with the new RPMFusion repository today.
On DVDAuthorWizard, I got the following:

Error: Missing Dependency: soc is needed by package 
DVDAuthorWizard-1.4.6-2.fc8.noarch (rpmfusion-free-updates)

Known thing. It has been in the broken deps reports posted to the packager
and rpmfusion-developers list. Perhaps if you read the replies in those
threads, you find an answer.
Sorry I'm not subscribed to the developers list, I'm a consumer of 
RPMFusion.  And since it was released today, I just followed through 
with my usual yum updates.  Who would have thought that they'd release 
something that was broken  My bad.


A repo as big as RPM Fusion always has known bugs -- just like Fedora, 
Debian and other distros have to say "okay, we need to release now, even 
if there are know bugs". This is what we decided to do -- especially as 
RPM Fusion as a whole was in better shape already then Livna was.


CU
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Re: Non-kde app launcher in KDE4 F9?

2008-11-04 Thread Mike Cloaked



Claude Jones-5 wrote:
> 
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, what you seek to do is trivial. Right-click
> on 
> the application menu button on the left of the panel; select 'Menu Editor'
> and 
> off you go. It will lead you into the classic menu display where you can
> pick a 
> folder to add your app to and by clicking on the folder in which you want
> to 
> add your app, and clicking on the 'New Item' button on the toolbar, you
> will 
> open a window that will allow you to add all the relevant information to
> add 
> your app to the menu (hint: clicking on the icon for your new app in the 
> configuration window will open a second window where you can choose an
> icon for 
> your app, or browse to a folder where it's located
> 
> Is that what you were seeking?
> 
> 

I am away from my f9 machine at present - but I will try this in the next
day or so. Your info does relate to KDE4 in the kickoff menu, not KDE3.35 I
presume? If this will give the ability to add a link to a script to run then
this is what I need or a link to any third part application, or code that I
have compiled or untarred to an area such as /opt/* 
If this will indeed create a new menu item in kickoff then getting an icon
from there into the panel is easy.

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does anyone know a free vss client for fedora8/9/10?

2008-11-04 Thread kk
does anyone know a free vss client for fedora?

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VSS is certainly hideous. However, if you *must*, you must. Take a 
look at sourceoffsite. http://www.sourcegear.com/sos It's not open 
source, and not free (as in beer), but it'll get the job done 
Including making VSS a true client-server app rather than just a stupid 
shared directory with client apps using sharing file access. 

but now is it free or not?
http://people.sourcegear.com/~jeffc/
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