F12 GNOME panel has big gaps between launchers
I recently made the move from F11 to F12. Application launchers on GNOME panels have much larger gaps between them than they did on F11. I can move the icons by dragging with the middle mouse button, but I cannot get them any closer together. This wastes a lot of space on the panels, and I would really like to get them closer together like they were in F11. Is this an intentional change, or is something messed up on my system? I did a fresh install of F12, not an upgrade, and I have tested with a new user. I've attached a screenshot of part of a panel in both F11 and F12 to illustrate. I'm not sure if the list will allow attachments, if not I will upload it somewhere and post a link. Brian attachment: panel_gaps.png-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [SOLVED] F12 GNOME panel has big gaps between launchers
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 23:38 +0100, Mohamed ELMORABITY wrote: this is an evolution described in the F12 release notes. These same release notes describe how to reset the gap between icons to 0: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_in_Fedora_for_Desktop_Users.html#sect-Release_Notes-Fedora_Desktop-GNOME-Changes That fixed it, thanks! Not sure how I managed to miss that when I read the release notes. Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Calendar with recurring tasks?
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 15:55 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:27:39 -0800 Gordon Charrick wrote: Pretty simple and logical way to keep track of monthly bills or other tasks that need to be done regularly, but haven't found any Linux apps that can handle this task. Well, evolution can do it, No it can't! It supports recurring appointments, but not recurring tasks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 12 install: no valid devices were found
About 6 months ago I tried to install Fedora 11 on my desktop computer. The install failed. When I got to the screen asking to select the device to install I got the message: An error has occurred - no valid devices were found on which to create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of this problem. I was able to install the 32 bit version of Fedora 11 on my laptop with no problem. I searched the Internet and found several suggested solutions. I tried them all and none of them worked. I decided to load Ubuntu 9.04 and wait six months for the next version of Fedora. I now have the Fedora 12 install disk for the 64 bit PC platform. I tried to install it, but I get the same error message. My computer configuration is: AMD Phenom II 905e 4 GB RAM SATA disk 263 GB free disk space Motherboard: Asus M4A78T-E If anyone can tell me how to install Fedora 12 I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Firefox not working after on line updates
Yesterday I allowed the system to install some security updates. Since then when I've tried to start Firefox, I get The application has been updated, but your version of SQLite is too old and the application cannot run. I downloaded/built/installed a new version of sqlite, but that hasn't helped. Any suggestions on how to resolve this? I installed lynx and tried using that to download Chrome, but ran into a problem with javascript not being supported (possibly) by lynx. tia. -- Brian Wood Ebenezer Enterprises http://www.webEbenezer.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Earth locks up system
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:31 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 12/21/2009 10:53 AM, Steven Stern wrote: Since I'm not sure when, Google Earth completely locks up my system, The crash is well known, and has been around for a long time (since at least FC6). Really? It worked fine for me until F11. With F11 it freezes my system as described by Kevin. I'm not running F12 yet due to an unrelated bug, but I tried installing GoogleEarth with F12 LiveCD (booted from a USB memory device with an overlay so I could install stuff) and it seemed to work. Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: empathy
On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 13:49 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: Does empathy do voice and/or video yet, with yahoo messenger? No, Yahoo video audio support is available yet. /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Replacing corrupted package
I'm trying to use consolehelper on F10 to move to F11. When I run it it says: Unable to load image-loading module. And it says /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2 has an invalid ELF header. I ran rpm --verify librsvg2 and it gives: S.5. /usr/bin/rsvg-convert S.5. /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so..2.22.3 I downloaded librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm I tried yum install librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm but it says: librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm: does not update installed package. I ran yum remove librsvg2, but it wanted to remove 19 packages, so I didn't allow it to do that. How can I replace the already installed and apparrently corrupted package using the rpm that I downloaded? TIA. -- Brian Wood http://www.webEbenezer.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with using wireless usb adapter
Bill Davidsen writes: Brian Wood wrote: I'm having some trouble getting internet/ssh working over a Linksys wireless usb adapter -- model WUSB54GSC. I did get it working one time, but don't know why or if I did something to make it work. I see the access point I want to use and connect to it. That seems to work. Then iwconfig reports lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wlan2 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:brian Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432 GHz Access Point: 00:1C:10:3B:06:97 Bit Rate=36 Mb/s Tx-Power=14 dBm RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr=2346 B Link Quality=57/100 Signal level=57/100 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 But bringing up a URL or ssh'ing to another machine doesn't work. I'm using Fedora 12. If I use an ethernet cable instead of the wireless, everything works fine. Any ideas on what to check or do? I see two things here, one is that there is no IP on that wlan2, indicating that it is connected but not routed. The other is that it's wlan2 insteadl of wlan0, indicating that something is going on, since even with the built-in (802.11g) and plug-in (802.11n) NICs, I have wlan0 and wlan1, so they always do start and zero and go consecutively. Try: - dhclient wlan2 - netstat -r and post the results. I would expect you will get connections after that. Hi, Bill, Unfortunately I've not been able to get it working yet. dhclient didn't output anything. The netstat -r output: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.50.0* 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan2 default 192.168.50.10.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 wlan2 Your dmesg output should have information of why that's wlan2, please read and report. Here's the result of dmesg | grep wlan: wlan0: register 'rndis_wlan' at usb-:00:03.3-1, Wireless RNDIS device, BCM4320b based, 00:1e:e5:a6:98:ee usbcore: registered new interface driver rndis_wlan udev: renamed network interface wlan0 to wlan2 rndis_wlan 1-1:1.0: rndis media disconnect ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan2: link is not ready rndis_wlan 1-1:1.0: rndis media connect ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan2: link becomes ready wlan2: no IPv6 routers present rndis_wlan 1-1:1.0: rndis media disconnect rndis_wlan 1-1:1.0: rndis media connect rndis_wlan 1-1:1.0: rndis media disconnect rndis_wlan 1-1:1.0: rndis media connect Regards, Brian Wood http://www.webEbenezer.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problem with using wireless usb adapter
I'm having some trouble getting internet/ssh working over a Linksys wireless usb adapter -- model WUSB54GSC. I did get it working one time, but don't know why or if I did something to make it work. I see the access point I want to use and connect to it. That seems to work. Then iwconfig reports lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wlan2 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:brian Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432 GHz Access Point: 00:1C:10:3B:06:97 Bit Rate=36 Mb/s Tx-Power=14 dBm RTS thr=2347 B Fragment thr=2346 B Link Quality=57/100 Signal level=57/100 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 But bringing up a URL or ssh'ing to another machine doesn't work. I'm using Fedora 12. If I use an ethernet cable instead of the wireless, everything works fine. Any ideas on what to check or do? Also in a separate matter ... With F11 the screen saver would gradually (fade in), but with F12 it happens suddenly. I would like to have it fade in gradually again on F12. I've looked at the screen saver preferences but didn't see a way to control that. How can I make it behave the way I want? TIA -- Brian Wood http://webEbenezer.net http://www.webebenezer.net/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Your experience of Firefox + HTML5
On 11/26/2009 10:37 AM, Andrea wrote: Hi, recently Firefox has become capable of playing video directly without plugins. It's the big HTML5 +video saga. I'm running Fedora 11 super up to date and I have to say that this things works a bit but not very well. Take for instance the home page of firefox and click bottom left http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/video/ It's a good example of what does not work. If I pause the video there is no way of starting again. Works fine for me. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091105 Fedora/3.5.5-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.5 And the same for all other HTML5 videos I've seen. Has anybody tried http://www.youtube.com/html5, this is even worse as it does not work even without pressing pause. Ditto. Does not start. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Your experience of Firefox + HTML5
On 11/26/2009 12:05 PM, Andrea wrote: On 26/11/09 16:53, brian wrote: On 11/26/2009 10:37 AM, Andrea wrote: If I pause the video there is no way of starting again. Works fine for me. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091105 Fedora/3.5.5-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.5 I've got the same exact version, but as soon as I press pause, nothing works anymore... Maybe you have an extension loaded that's causing a conflict. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Difference between screen saving in F11 and F12
With F11 the screen saver would gradually (fade in), but with F12 it happens suddenly. I would like to have it fade in gradually again on F12. I've looked at the screen saver preferences but didn't see a way to control that. How can I make it behave the way I want? TIA -- Brian Wood http://www.webEbenezer.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 Thunderbird 3 beta 4
On 11/25/2009 12:17 PM, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 09:12 -0800, Paul Erickson wrote: Does anyone know when there will be an upgrade beyond Thunderbird 3 beta 4? My main problem with it is that the ability to run filter now button is no longer functioning. A Bugzilla report has been filed some time ago, but I see no indication of when a new version of Thunderbird will be available for F11 which will fix the problem. Have I missed something somewhere? http://bugzilla.redhat.com did you report this bug? did you search for other reports on this bug? did you know that if you create a bugzilla report, this will ensure that the package is aware that there is a problem, cause him to look upstream (Mozilla.org) for a fix and inform you if there is a change? A Bugzilla report has been filed some time ago, ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a VPN with network connection wizard
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:46 +0200, Mark Ryden wrote: I try to connect to a VPN using the network connection wizard of Feodra 12. (System-Preference-Network Connections). I select the VPN tab. I press Add and choose PPTP. I enter what is needed and created a VPN connection named VPN1. I press apply when finished and everything is OK. The dialog is closed. Now how can I activate this VPN connection ? Are you using NetworkManager, and if so do you have the NetworkManager applet on your toolbar? If so, click on the applet, and under the VPN Connections menu, click on VPN1. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Digg it up! F12 release...
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 15:13 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: http://digg.com/d31AI1X If you're watching this list, please take the time to Digg worthwhile articles on Fedora 12 release, such as the above submission, which links directly to our beautiful one-page (or so) ;-) release notes. Done. Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Curious problem with yum
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:39, stan gr...@q.com wrote: The workaround for this sort of thing is to do something like the following: yum list updates updates vim updates (or your favorite text editor) insert a #! /bin/bash at the top record a macro that converts each line to yum -y update package-name (the lines sometimes wrap because names are so long) chmod +x updates ./updates This takes longer to run because dependency checking is done on every package. But it does the job. Alternatively, you could just change it into one large update with the offending packages removed, and backslash continuation on each line. Much faster runtime. That's the hard way! Just do this: yum install yum-skip-broken yum update --skip-broken -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Curious problem with yum
There is nothing to download. --skip-broken is built into yum. man yum will reveal it to you: --skip-broken skip packages with depsolving problems That's what I initially thought - but then I found this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagementGuide/CustomizingYum#Skip-broken_Plugin Looks like that is outdated. I couldn't check because I am at work on a Windows box. Sorry for the bad info! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Curious problem with yum
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 12:37 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: I recently ran yum update and encountered a conflict with iptstate requiring libnetfilter.conntrack . OK, that is simple enough; but if I remove iptstate I can then re-install it without any problem. ipstate requires libnetfilter_conntrack libnetfilter_conntrack does not require ipstate Removing libnetfilter-conntrack, or upgrading it to a version that does not satisfy the ipstate dependency, will create a conflict, which is what you are seeing. Removing ipstate does not create a conflict because you have nothing else installed that requires it. Installing ipstate after you removed it is simply reinstalling the same version (yum upgrade was *not* trying to upgrade ipstate). If there was no conflict before, there isn't one now. If you remove ipstate, you would then be able to upgrade libnetfilter_conntrack. If you then tried to install ipstate you should see a conflict. This happens occasionally with updates, either due to mirrors taking time to sync, or due to human error in creating updates. In either case, the solution is to just wait a while (for the mirrors to sync, or for new packages to hit the repositories). In this case, the fix is already on its way to the repositories. If you don't want to wait you can get it here: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=140755 Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Curious problem with yum
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 12:23 -0800, Brian Mury wrote: ipstate Replace all occurrences of ipstate in my post with iptstate. Oops! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Curious problem with yum
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 23:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: But now it seems to say that iptstate requires libnetfilter_conntrack. So why didn't it say that before when I yum-installed iptstate? It didn't say that before because you already had libnetfilter_conntrack installed. You must have had it, because you had already had iptstate installed, which requires it. When you removed iptstate, it did not remove libnetfilter_conntrack (which does *not* require iptstate - the dependency is one way). When you then installed iptstate again, yum saw that you already had the required libnetfilter_conntrack installed, so the dependency was satisfied. When you ran yum update, yum saw a new version of libnetfilter_conntrack was available and tried to update it. But - uh oh - iptstate requires a *certain version* of libnetfilter_conntrack, and the *new* version of libnetfilter_conntrack does not satisfy that dependency! So yum complained, and rightly so. What should have happened was for a new version of iptstate to become available at the same time as the new libnetfilter_conntrack. The new iptstate package is now in updates, BTW, though not yet on all the mirrors. BTW, if, when you removed iptstate, you had *also* removed libnetfilter_conntrack, then tried to reinstall both, you would have seen the problem, because yum would have had to get libnetfilter_conntrack from the repo and would have gotten the new version. The version that remained installed when you removed/installed iptstate was the old version. yum is a great tool, in my view, and one of the best things about fedora. But it is a bit confusing when a program seems to contradict itself. No contradiction. The logic is correct (and actually quite straightforward once you wrap your mind around it). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: virtualization -- how do I use an existing windows installation ?
On 11/03/2009 01:24 AM, steve wrote: Hi, I recently installed windows 7 on my laptop, on a separate partition, making it dual boot. Now, I would like to boot into this installation without having to reboot. A casual google shows me that one can in fact boot off an existing physical partition using any of the commonly available virtualization tools on linux -- qemu, VirtualBox VMPlayer. So my question is, has anyone tried doing this and what were your experiences if you did ? I am not averse to the idea of simply reinstalling windows 7 in a 'proper' virtual environment, but just curious whether reusing the existing installation is easily doable. I would be using the windows installation just to test portability of code that i write. I don't really need to boot into it often, neither do i expect it to be lightning fast. cheers, - steve I used to do this with a Win2K install and RH7 (or so). The trick was to edit C:\boot.ini to offer 2 modes: normal and virtual. However, I can't remember precisely the steps required. Search google.com/linux for dual boot +vmware and trawl through the hits. Obviously things will be different between Win2k Win7 but this page from 2006 appears to describe the same process: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=121239 Unfortunately, the server hosting the article that *that* article references appears to be dead. Anyway, this might set you in the correct direction. Just be sure to consider this quote from the article: -- snip -- VMware's own instructions insist that the procedure is unsupported. I.e., you can trash your disk if you make a mistake. So before you start it is worth stopping to think about what you are doing. -- snip -- Having said that, I'll mention that I used this procedure on at least 3 machines-two of them laptops--and never encountered any problems. UPDATE: here's a newer article. How To run your native WinXP in VMware in Fedora 7 (avoiding Dual Booting) http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=166890 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unused partition space after clonezilla move?
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:59 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, I have just moved my fedora to a newer, more power saving, larger and faster disk. I made up new Partitions (bigger than the old ones) and used clonezilla for the move. This worked pretty well except for the partition space: I have now e.g. 205GB unused space on my /home partition. How do I get the fs to cover the whole part? Get systemrescuecd. Boot off of it. Use gparted to expand the partition in question. I use it all of the time with clonezilla. to resize a partition to make it smaller before cloneing, then expanding the partition afterwards so I same storage and it is easier to migrate with a smaller partition. (clonezilla will not restore to a smaller partition) And afterwards: Is there a way to convert an ext3 into ext4 fs from the desktop (seems it is hard to unmount /home) http://mediakey.dk/~cc/migrate-existing-ext3-filesystems-to-ext4/ -- Brian Millett - [ Delenn and Sinclair, The Gathering] Why Babylon 5? If the prior four stations were lost or destroyed, why build another? 'Plain old human stubbornness I guess. When something we value is destroyed, we rebuild it. If its destroyed again, we rebuild it again...and again and again and...again. Until it stays. That as our poet Tennison once said is the goal: to strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.' signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
straight dope on SSL certs?
My self-signed SSL certificates (for Postfix Cyrus-IMAP) have just expired and so I'm faced with once again trying to decipher (heh) the multitude of instructions for setting this up. I still have my notes from a year ago but, though everything's been working fine (AFAIK), I'm not convinced that what I'm doing is correct. I've read many tutorials online but each one seems to confuse the issue further. For one thing, before I'd even started, I'd found some cert files already existed. I believe they were set up by the Apache rpm. In any case, I just ignored them, as I'm not currently using SSL through Apache. I probably will want to use it in the future, however I don't at all understand how/why these already exist, as they couldn't possibly contain the correct information (commonName, organizationName, etc). So, anyway ... I'd like to create new certs and, at the same time, clear out some of the deadwood under the /etc/pki tree and attempt to get all of this into proper order. This is my current setup: /etc/postfix/main.cnf: smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/pki/tls/certs/cacert.pem smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/pki/postfix/newcert.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/pki/postfix/newkey.pem /etc/imapd.conf: tls_ca_file: /etc/pki/tls/certs/cacert.pem tls_cert_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/newcert.pem tls_key_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/newkey.pem I have no idea what I was thinking when putting these in separate directories. I assume that's a redundancy I can do without. /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf: SSLCertificateFile /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/private/localhost.key #SSLCertificateChainFile /etc/pki/tls/certs/server-chain.crt #SSLCACertificateFile /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt Here, localhost.crt and localhost.key were created by something other than myself. I have no idea what they're good for, if not self-signed. However, I'm guessing that I could probably create a cert/key.pem pair and use them for Postfix, Cyrus, and Apache. Note, though, that the httpd versions are not PEMs, so that's another source of confusion. This is from my notes for Postfix/Cyrus: -- snip -- # cd /etc/pki/tls/misc ./CA_noDES -newca [creates key file in /etc/pki/CA/private/cakey.pem] ./CA_noDES -newreq [creates newkey.pem newreq.pem] ./CA_noDES -sign [creates /etc/pki/CA/cacert.pem] ADD THE PRIVATE KEY # cat /etc/pki/CA/private/cakey.pem copy this into: # vi /etc/pki/CA/cacert.pem # cp /etc/pki/CA/cacert.pem /etc/pki/tls/certs/ -- snip -- Could/should I simply use the above instructions to create: /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt.pem /etc/pki/tls/private/localhost.key.pem ... and use these for all 3 apps? Also, I'm not really clear (surprise, surprise) on the purpose of the last line. Why should I copy cacert.pem from one directory to another? I understand that the CA dir is readbale only by root. However, by copying the file elsewhere, that security seems superfluous. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 10 Dell Precision Kernel Panic
needed. Thanks, Brian F. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager doesn't play nice
On 10/13/2009 12:11 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:16:45 -0400 brian wrote: Now, I had the file backed up anyway but I don't see any warning in the docs that it does this. Is it just me, or is this rather shoddy behaviour on NM's part? By default, NM sets up a complete Internet connection for you. Part of that is creating a resolv.conf file. I understand that. The point I was trying to make is that it destroyed an existing file in the process. It's very simple to write software that avoids doing that. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager doesn't play nice
On 10/13/2009 12:47 PM, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 12:22 -0400, brian wrote: On 10/13/2009 12:11 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:16:45 -0400 brian wrote: Now, I had the file backed up anyway but I don't see any warning in the docs that it does this. Is it just me, or is this rather shoddy behaviour on NM's part? By default, NM sets up a complete Internet connection for you. Part of that is creating a resolv.conf file. I understand that. The point I was trying to make is that it destroyed an existing file in the process. It's very simple to write software that avoids doing that. But if it is setup to not recreate the resolv.conf (which you can change I believe) then there would be a lot of complaints from people who cannot figure out resolv.conf for themselves. If I recall correctly you should be able to add PEERDNS=no to your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX file (where X is the interface number eg. eth0) and it shouldn't overwrite it. Maybe I'm not being clear enough. IMHO, if a file--especially something as basic as resolv.conf--exists, it should never be overwritten by some app without backing it up first. Think of all those .rpmnew files, for instance. It seems to me a bit ridiculous that NM would just blow away the file like that. ESPECIALLY as it replaces the contents with nothing but comments. I think this is a huge oversight. It's an all-or-nothing approach that leaves a box blind to DNS if the user decides (as in my case) that NM is not actually required/desired. Thanks for the tip about PEERDNS, though. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype other application
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 14:29, Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com wrote: Skype is working fine on my two boxesI note only that if I am playing music by Rhythmbox and a contact comes in or goes out music is interrupted and doesn't resume on one of my boxes (even if I make a call) Edit ~/.pulse/default.pa to change this line: load-module module-cork-music-on-phone to: # load-module module-cork-music-on-phone If the file doesn't exist, copy it from /etc/pulse/default.pa, or just edit /etc/pulse/default.pa to make the change for all users. You may need to restart pulseaudio for this to take effect - I'm not sure. This may not be necessary once we get a new version of Skype comes out that distinguishes between voice and other sounds. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem
I've just installed TB3b4 (because 3b3 was driving me nuts). I use IMAP, so on startup, it proceeded to download everything (although I'm pretty sure 3b3 had already done that). Unfortunately, it appears to have screwed things up. I have several accounts; they're all listed on the left side, but I have just a single Inbox at the top that contains everything from the Inbox of each account. Does anyone know the safest way to back out of this mess? And, is this the correct behaviour? If so, I'm not a fan. Is there some way to start up TB without having it inflict its Smart Folder functionality on me? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem
On 10/02/2009 10:59 AM, brian wrote: I've just installed TB3b4 (because 3b3 was driving me nuts). I use IMAP, so on startup, it proceeded to download everything (although I'm pretty sure 3b3 had already done that). Unfortunately, it appears to have screwed things up. I have several accounts; they're all listed on the left side, but I have just a single Inbox at the top that contains everything from the Inbox of each account. Does anyone know the safest way to back out of this mess? And, is this the correct behaviour? If so, I'm not a fan. Is there some way to start up TB without having it inflict its Smart Folder functionality on me? Never mind. I found the (very tiny, unlabelled) arrows next to where it read Smart Folders. Clicking those changes the view to Unread Folders, Recent Folders, etc. Eventually, I got it back to All Folders. That was a bit disturbing, to say the least. Another thing I noticed is that the reply, delete, junk buttons have gone AWOL from the toolbar. That's easy enough to fix but couldn't it have updated without making the user go back in and add those again? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem
On 10/02/2009 11:13 AM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: Hi, At the top of your mail folders, you have two little arrows. Using them allows you to change the look of your accounts and permit you to go back to an inbox per account Thanks, I just found them. It seems a bad idea to make Smart Folders the default view like that, though. I thought it had hosed something. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem
On 10/02/2009 11:19 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: brian wrote: Never mind. I found the (very tiny, unlabelled) arrows next to where it read Smart Folders. Clicking those changes the view to Unread Folders, Recent Folders, etc. Eventually, I got it back to All Folders. That was a bit disturbing, to say the least. Another thing I noticed is that the reply, delete, junk buttons have gone AWOL from the toolbar. That's easy enough to fix but couldn't it have updated without making the user go back in and add those again? Brian, TB 3.0 is a big change from 2.0 -- and it's still beta. Complaining about the user interface on this list isn't the correct forum. Yeah, yeah. I was just ranting a little bit. My initial query was not a complaint, though. I was concerned it had fscked up my email and was looking for help. Treat TB 3.0 like a new program and not like TB 2.0. The reply, delete, junk buttons are now on each message. By adding them back you just duplicated them. How is that not confusing to you now? Because I can see them. I like smart folders, FYI. Bully for you! I'm sure lots of people will like it. I've played around with it a bit and think that ~gasp~ *I* might even grow to like it. However, having the accounts initially appear like that is very confusing, IMHO. But, as you said, this isn't the place to discuss that. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
smartd.conf corrupted by ... something
2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 #1 SMP i686 athlon i386 I'm trying to diagnose/fix repeated hangups and found the following in /var/log/messages: smartd[2217]: Configuration file /etc/smartd.conf has fatal syntax errors. So, I opened the file and found this weirdness: -- snip -- 1418644 /sbin/lvm.static 3810 /sbin/ifup 841 /sbin/setsysfont 5207 /sbin/start_udev 17921 /sbin/dhclient-script 1124096 /sbin/fsck.ext3 366 /sbin/mpath_wait 912584 /sbin/multipath.static ... 5423 /usr/lib/python2.5/encodings/__init__.py 4376 /usr/lib/python2.5/encodings/__init__.pyc 14337 /usr/lib/python2.5/encodings/aliases.py 9100 /usr/lib/python2.5/encodings/aliases.pyc 1005 /usr/lib/python2.5/encodings/utf_8.py 1950 /usr/lib/python2.5/encodi -- snip -- First of all, I can see where my machine must have locked up again, in the middle of writing that last path. Secondly, what the heck is this?! This is nothing like what *should* be in here. What's been vandalising this file? There is a smartd.conf.RPMNEW file there, btw. Can anyone suggest what's happened here? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: nvidia, KDE or X window display errors
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 10:15 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote: Lately I've been seeing windows get corrupted suddenly. I took a snapshot of one and you can see it at http://www.allmanpc.com/video_display_error.jpg I've been having the same issue, but thought I was having hardware failure. I've a dell d820, fedora 11, nvidia-x11-drv-190.18-1.fc11 which is a beta version. My entire display does this. If I tap the laptop near the power button, it comes back to normal. No idea what is causing it. Wish I did. -- Brian Millett - [ Sheridan (to Delenn), Acts of Sacrifice] Ambassador, I've learned the hard way that governments deal in matters of convention, not conscience. If they fall behind, it is up to the rest of us to make up the difference. If we don't, who will? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: debug system freeze
On 09/07/2009 01:28 PM, brian wrote: On 09/03/2009 11:11 PM, stan wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:24:21 -0400 brianfed...@logi.ca wrote: I think I'm going to downgrade to 10, all the same. 11 has been way too big a mess on this box. :-( Compiling my own custom kernel fixed the problem for me. I tuned the kernel options for my system, and it has been solid as a rock since (and more responsive). I'm using the 2.6.30 kernels from updates-testing, recompiled for my system, and they are working flawlessly. That's probably a simpler option than downgrading. Using the instructions at the link below, it is actually quite easy to compile a kernel. Once you've done it once, it is almost routine. And if you save the config file, you can just start from where you left off with the next kernel. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel Another alternative is to try the F12 Alpha live CD. If it works, maybe you could hold out with F11 until F12 goes official. I admit that it hadn't yet occurred to me to try SSH. I'll do that the next time it locks up. It just happened again and pinging the computer from another box was unsuccessful. I'll look into re-compiling the kernel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox file-upload broken?
On 09/08/2009 06:38 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, F10, firefox-3.0.13. Don't know if this is a firefox or fedora firefox bug. Any web developers out there??? Given this html: forminput type='file' //form View that in the browser and you will see an input text box with a Browse button. Click inside the text box. If your experience matches mine it will act as if the Browse button has been pressed and a File Open dialog box opens. That is broken with a capital F! How so? Unfortunately, this means it is no longer possible to drag an image onto a file upload box and have its file location entered into the text input box. Instead the image replaces the current page. I'm not following your logic here. How does the one result in the other? For that matter, was it *ever* possible to drag an image onto a file input and have the path appear? So that means forget about plugging in your USB camera and drag-and-drop your pictures onto a form. Gramma's just gonna have to learn about file systems. Umm, no. Can't much see that happening ;( Surprising to see this hasn't been noticed yet (that I know). Does anybody know if this is supposed to be the new behavior or is this just a mistake that hasn't been caught? If the functionality you describe did exist at one time, perhaps it was removed due to security concerns. It should be simple enough to go back through the release notes of the last few versions to find out. http://en-US.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5.2/releasenotes/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Ambassadors] Congratulations
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 13:21 -0500, inode0 wrote: A bit more than one year ago I blundered into being part of the rebirth of the Fedora Ambassador program in North America. gregdek made a commitment to empower ambassadors to take control of their own activities and this fundamental change in ownership resulted in the creation of FAmNA. It has been a joy to make a small contribution to the work of Clint, David, Brian, Pascal, and the rest of the FAmNA community over the subsequent months. John, congratulations! You going to be at the Ohio Linux Fest again this year? Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org identi.ca: http://identi.ca/bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: rogue suspend is driving me nuts
On 09/04/2009 04:58 AM, Andras Simon wrote: On 9/4/09, brianfed...@logi.ca wrote: On 08/31/2009 07:48 PM, brian wrote: On 08/31/2009 06:05 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: If you can't solve the problem, and you don't need fancy Power Management services, you can `yum remove gnome-power-manager`. I did that and also removed gnome-screensaver, replacing both with xscreensaver. I don't use suspend or hibernate, but I do want the display to sleep, and, as a bonus, I get better looking screensavers. I did lose the ability to switch users without first unlocking the screen. OK, I've done that. I should know by tomorrow if it worked, as this box has been shutting down several times a day. After a couple of days, it looks like this did the trick. Thanks. If removing gnome-power-manager did the trick, then maybe it's just the it was set to initiate suspend when the machine was idle for some time. Andras Yeah, I'd checked it several times. It was not. Sorry, I should have mentioned that (I had in my earlier post, I think). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: debug system freeze
On 09/03/2009 11:11 PM, stan wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:24:21 -0400 brianfed...@logi.ca wrote: I think I'm going to downgrade to 10, all the same. 11 has been way too big a mess on this box. :-( Compiling my own custom kernel fixed the problem for me. I tuned the kernel options for my system, and it has been solid as a rock since (and more responsive). I'm using the 2.6.30 kernels from updates-testing, recompiled for my system, and they are working flawlessly. That's probably a simpler option than downgrading. Using the instructions at the link below, it is actually quite easy to compile a kernel. Once you've done it once, it is almost routine. And if you save the config file, you can just start from where you left off with the next kernel. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel Another alternative is to try the F12 Alpha live CD. If it works, maybe you could hold out with F11 until F12 goes official. I admit that it hadn't yet occurred to me to try SSH. I'll do that the next time it locks up. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
On 09/03/2009 10:45 PM, stan wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:39:14 -0400 brianfed...@logi.ca wrote: On 08/21/2009 10:52 PM, brian wrote: On 08/21/2009 09:16 AM, brian wrote: thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the write window i'm typing now in are ok. Anyone? Is anbody seeing anything like this? I can't think of what to look for as *most* images look just fine. So, I can't imagine it's a problem with X. I'm not seeing this in FF, don't use TB (F11 x86_64). It is probably some obscure interaction between your hardware, its drivers, and those applications. i.e. a bug Are the distortions consistent? i.e. do the same icons and images always have the same distortion? Yes no. Sometimes, both apps display things just fine. But, when they misbehave, it's always the same images. In TB, for instance, the images that are screewed up are the menu icons at top, except for the trash and printer. eg. http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6851/screenshot1ji.png In the folders list, it's all of the icons except that for Drafts folders. However, the manner of distortion changes slightly: sometimes everything is predominantly purple and other times kind of a caustic green. But it's always the same icons, which suggests to me that it's something specific to how those files are interpreted. With FF, again, it's always the same images. The difference is that the icons are all fine and the problem is only with content images. Both PNG JPG are affected (I haven't noticed any GIFs) so that's a bit confusing. http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2249/screenshotk.png Note that FF has gone green while TB is purple today. What if you save an image that is distorted and open it with an image viewer? Still distorted? I opened an example image from FF in both GIMP and EoG and it was displayed fine. Do you have any strange configuration options set? Effects plugins installed? No. What if you start firefox in safe mode? firefox -safe-mode (bad option design!). Once I came across a bad image in FF, I restarted in safe mode and browsed back to it. It was still bad. (It's --safe-mode, btw) I have not come across anything similar in any other apps. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
So, how are the laptops (MBP, W500, XPS 16)?
I'm contemplating a laptop purchase and my current top three candidates are a MBP 17, Lenovo W500 (WUXGA/ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 (512MB)), and a Dell XPS 16 (1080p/ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 (1G)). I get the impression -- were I to go with the Lenovo or Dell -- that I'm pretty much stuck with the 2D radeon drivers, which seems a shame (I confess I like Compiz). Can anyone comment on their experiences with these laptops? o How well does video work? o Sound? o Sleep/resume? o Fan noise? My only two data points are the T61p I tried (shortly after Hardy Heron released; back then, they were using an NVIDIA card) and my wife's MBP. Hardy Heron wanted to run the T61p's (loud) fan constantly and sleep/resume, when it worked, took forever (over a minute to re-establish wireless connectivity). I found it unusable next to my wife's MBP which is generally quiet, resumes instantly, and rarely gets rebooted (despite both of us being constantly logged onto it). I'm hoping to hear that Linux has come a long way since my last attempt and would work well with either the Lenovo or the Dell. But, if ATI is still to be avoided, does anyone have have any experience with The Beast (Lenovo W700), which ships with an NVIDIA card? Seems too big, but I'll bet the screen is much nicer than the almost-too-dim W500's. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: DHCP on Aliase eth0
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 16:53 +0100, Gbenga Shobowale wrote:
Hello All,
I need to know if it is possible to run dhcp server on an aliase
interface eth0:0 ?
I have configured a dhcp server for a network that should be on this
interface but I can't get it to work.
Anyone worked on something like this?
Best regards
Very easy to do. I've got an interface that is just a 'tap' interface
tap0 inet addr:192.168.89.1 that I want the dhcpd to listen on.
So my /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf is :
ddns-update-style interim;
ignore client-updates;
local-address 192.168.89.1;
subnet 192.168.89.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
# --- default gateway
option routers 192.168.89.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option nis-domain localdomain;
option domain-name localdomain;
option domain-name-servers 192.168.89.1, 208.67.222.222,
208.67.220.220;
option time-offset -18000; # Eastern Standard Time
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.89.128 192.168.89.254;
default-lease-time 21600;
max-lease-time 43200;
}
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Re: rogue suspend is driving me nuts
On 08/31/2009 07:48 PM, brian wrote: On 08/31/2009 06:05 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: If you can't solve the problem, and you don't need fancy Power Management services, you can `yum remove gnome-power-manager`. I did that and also removed gnome-screensaver, replacing both with xscreensaver. I don't use suspend or hibernate, but I do want the display to sleep, and, as a bonus, I get better looking screensavers. I did lose the ability to switch users without first unlocking the screen. OK, I've done that. I should know by tomorrow if it worked, as this box has been shutting down several times a day. After a couple of days, it looks like this did the trick. Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
debug system freeze
Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks up on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down the power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug this? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
On 08/21/2009 10:52 PM, brian wrote: On 08/21/2009 09:16 AM, brian wrote: thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the write window i'm typing now in are ok. In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up. I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss). Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check? Here's the latest from yum.log: Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586 Correction: some JPEGs are also displayed like this in FF. Anyone? Is anbody seeing anything like this? I can't think of what to look for as *most* images look just fine. So, I can't imagine it's a problem with X. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: debug system freeze
On 09/03/2009 10:25 PM, stan wrote: On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:36:39 -0400 brianfed...@logi.ca wrote: Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks up on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down the power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug this? My thought is that it would take some serious effort to debug this. Recompile the kernel and turn on as many of the debugging options in kernel hacking as possible. Run the modified kernel in a virtual machine or separate install and use lots of logging that is short term (you don't need logs from hours ago, 5 minutes of logs is probably plenty). When it hangs, boot into another system to examine the logs of the frozen system. The logging might prevent the problem from happening, depending on what it is, but you have a chance of catching it in the act. When this was happening to me, I thought it behaved like the IP stack was being corrupted. That means that the system is frozen, because there was no next instruction. Dead, defunct, deceased. Only post mortem examination possible. I've seen an option in the kernel to allow a second kernel to be built and swap in when the first crashes in order to do the post mortem, but I'm not sure that would work in this case, and in any case I haven't actually used it. Thanks for the input. It's more or less as I thought. I figured I'd at least need to re-compile the kernel in order to even hope to catch something logged. I thought I'd ask, though. I think I'm going to downgrade to 10, all the same. 11 has been way too big a mess on this box. :-( -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Amarok Cover Manager Dead
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Daniel B. Thurmand...@cdkkt.com wrote: On 09/01/2009 10:34 AM, rgheck wrote: On 09/01/2009 10:24 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: On 08/31/2009 09:13 PM, rgheck wrote: I don't know when it started, but as of today, anyway, amarok's cover manager just doesn't work at all. No matter what I do, it won't find any covers. Has amazon changed the API again? rh Which version are you talking about? Latest, 2.1.1. Had another reply saying yes, it was dead. rh Ok. I am using v1.4x ported from someone on the Internet and Cover Manager does not work either. Yes, it is broken in v1.4.10 also. There is a patch available, but I haven't had time to install it. Do a search for amarok-1.4.10.coverfetcher.diff.gz. I hated v2.x due to a different look feel, limited functionality features but more importantly, it killed my gdm. Not very nice. Let me know how it works for you if you try the patch. Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11, OpenLDAP: can append to files, but not write, acl not a mount option
I've installed a new F11 server, w/OpenLDAP. Users access an lvm/ext4 volume via netatalk samba. Selinux is permissive. Some users were getting sharing violation or disk full for afp and smb respectively on some existing files, though 2.2TB are free and new files were fine. I found that when opening a shell as these users (#su - username), they indeed could NOT edit the files, at least with vim. What they could do was append to the files via # echo 1 badfile.html . Then after appending, vim would write to that file just fine and netatalk samba were now happy with that file too. I've run lsattr, I've run setfacl to list permissions, I've updated the kernel, I've rebooted, I've run fsck, I've checked mount for acl, I've checked syslog . . . I'm stumped. I thought that if you couldn't write, you couldn't append either? Any ideas? ~]# rpm -q openldap-servers kernel pam openldap-servers-2.4.17-2.fc11.x86_64 kernel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.x86_64 pam-1.0.91-6.fc11.x86_64 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
rogue suspend is driving me nuts
2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 For the past couple of weeks, my desktop machine has been shutting down on its own. I thought it might be a hardware problem until I noticed that, each time, /var/log/pm-suspend.log was being written to: Initial commandline parameters: Mon Aug 31 12:53:31 EDT 2009: Running hooks for suspend. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk suspend suspend: Adding quirks from HAL: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-dpms-suspend --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vga-mode-3 ... etc. So, what the heck is driving this? Can anyone tell me what is calling /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/*? This box is quickly becoming unusable. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rogue suspend is driving me nuts
On 08/31/2009 06:05 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-08-31 13:44:11, brian wrote: 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 For the past couple of weeks, my desktop machine has been shutting down on its own. I thought it might be a hardware problem until I noticed that, each time, /var/log/pm-suspend.log was being written to: Initial commandline parameters: Mon Aug 31 12:53:31 EDT 2009: Running hooks for suspend. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk suspend suspend: Adding quirks from HAL: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-dpms-suspend --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vga-mode-3 ... etc. So, what the heck is driving this? Can anyone tell me what is calling /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/*? This box is quickly becoming unusable. If you don't need suspend, perhaps you can disable it? Though I'm not sure if that will make it stop. That's the thing: I don't know how. I've already disabled everything I can find related to power management. I should have mentioned that (it was in my earlier thread). Also, these suspends happen both when the box is idle and not (while typing, for instance). And I've never been able to bring it out of suspend. I wonder if it's related to the bug where the screen blanks occasionally. I've also been seeing that. If you can't solve the problem, and you don't need fancy Power Management services, you can `yum remove gnome-power-manager`. I did that and also removed gnome-screensaver, replacing both with xscreensaver. I don't use suspend or hibernate, but I do want the display to sleep, and, as a bonus, I get better looking screensavers. I did lose the ability to switch users without first unlocking the screen. OK, I've done that. I should know by tomorrow if it worked, as this box has been shutting down several times a day. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!
On 08/29/2009 01:39 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: The last time I had a system lock-out was several weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another. I tried to access the system locally via the keyboard, no response. Mouse, same. Remotely, not responding, all remote connections, ports, etc. Not there. Darn! hard reboot. So, I looked at the system messages logs: Aug 29 01:08:11 gold pulseaudio[7453]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 125.99 ms Aug 29 10:14:32 gold kernel: imklog 3.22.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Yep, there is a 9 hour gap of no activity. It looks like the system went to sleep just like I did when it was time for bed. I got up this morning, but my system never woke up. Lazy basta... oh, sorry. It died. Well, what else can I do, there seems to be no way to figure out what is going on, if there is no record of it! It's locked up on me about a half dozen or so times in the past week. Additionally, the box suspends at random times[1] (it's not a laptop) and cannot be brought back out of it. Also, Thunderbird and Firefox occasionally cannot display certain images properly[2] and Thunderbird crashes if I try to paste text that's been copied from either the terminal or jEdit. Yup, lots of nasty bugginess. I don't know what else to check and don't think I can deal with this much longer. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-August/msg02112.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-August/msg01845.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
help
I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: help
I have ubuntu 8.1 on my laptop and installed fedora 11 on my desktop. I checked all my settings on fedora against ubuntu and they are the same. fedora says there is a connection but firefox says it is unable to locate the server and system update says problem connecting to software source. is there a command I can issue in the terminal that will allow internet access. I am not real famlar with terminal commands. Thanks Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:32:01 -0400 From: mha...@ercbroadband.org To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: help rgheck wrote: On 08/27/2009 11:43 AM, Brian Bentley wrote: I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. It ought just to connect. Choose Edit connections. Select the connection you want to use and choose Edit. Make sure Connect automatically is checked. Check the IPv4 settings, and make sure they are right for your network. rh Yet another reason that Network Manager needs to go away. It's a giant PITA. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rawhide report: 20090826 changes
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 15:58 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Broken deps for i386 -- anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) anjal-0.1.0-0.7.20090821git5ac8bfe.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 empathy-2.27.5-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 empathy-devel-2.27.5-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) empathy-libs-2.27.5-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 empathy-python-2.27.5-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 nautilus-sendto-1.1.6-2.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 I don't remember the bump nitrification email for this going to fedora-devel. My fault. I wasn't aware of anything using mission-control other than empathy nautilus-sendto which I was working on updating. Sorry. Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org identi.ca: http://identi.ca/bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: random shutdowns
On 08/23/2009 02:30 PM, brian wrote: title Fedora (2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet acpi=no apm=off noapic nolapic initrd /initrd-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586.img I'll reboot and see if the problem goes away. I'd appreciate any comments if I'm barking up the wrong tree. That didn't change anything. /var/log/pm-suspend.log recorded it. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk suspend suspend: Adding quirks from HAL: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-dpms-suspend --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vga-mode-3 success. So, how can I find *what* is calling this? More importantly, how can I turn the damned thing off? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
random shutdowns
2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Since yesterday, my computer has been shutting down randomly. Several times, I had walked away from the box with nothing special running. I thought it might be a hardware issue, checked connections, etc. I wanted to know if there might be something in /var/log that would give a hint as to the problem. While poking around in there, I had a look at pm-suspend.log. Strangely, I found the following: --- snip --- Initial commandline parameters: Sun Aug 23 13:04:32 EDT 2009: Running hooks for suspend. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00auto-quirk suspend suspend: Adding quirks from HAL: --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-dpms-suspend --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode-restore --quirk-vbestate-restore --quirk-vga-mode-3 success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: Linux apollo 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 00:44:39 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux Module Size Used by fuse 49764 2 bridge 41496 0 stp 1944 1 bridge llc 4788 2 bridge,stp bnep 10888 2 sco 9356 2 l2cap 18912 3 bnep bluetooth 44908 5 bnep,sco,l2cap autofs422080 3 w83627hf 21624 0 hwmon_vid 2284 1 w83627hf xt_limit1812 8 iptable_mangle 3368 0 ipt_LOG 4544 8 ipt_MASQUERADE 2364 0 nf_nat 14748 1 ipt_MASQUERADE xt_DSCP 2740 0 nf_conntrack_irc4640 0 nf_conntrack_ftp6276 0 nf_conntrack_ipv6 11368 9 ip6t_ipv6header 1804 2 ip6t_REJECT 3160 2 ip6table_filter 3136 1 ip6_tables 10728 2 ip6t_ipv6header,ip6table_filter ipv6 232512 32 nf_conntrack_ipv6,ip6t_REJECT cpufreq_ondemand6052 1 powernow_k814784 0 dm_multipath 13636 0 uinput 6496 0 k8temp 3920 0 hwmon 2148 2 w83627hf,k8temp snd_mpu401 6904 0 snd_mpu401_uart 6272 1 snd_mpu401 snd_rawmidi18776 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_intel8x0 27440 2 snd_ac97_codec 91752 1 snd_intel8x0 ac97_bus1400 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm62092 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 17896 1 snd_pcm snd_seq_device 5988 1 snd_rawmidi snd_page_alloc 7572 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm ppdev 6296 0 parport_pc 22132 0 sata_sis4840 0 sis900 17884 0 mii 4008 1 sis900 ns558 4068 0 snd49084 12 snd_mpu401,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device parport28544 2 ppdev,parport_pc gameport9712 2 ns558 soundcore 5404 1 snd floppy 48052 0 pcspkr 2156 0 ata_generic 4264 0 pata_acpi 3624 0 pata_sis9288 4 sata_sis total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1513048 738024 775024 0 52676 395404 -/+ buffers/cache: 2899441223104 Swap: 2031608 02031608 success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/01grub suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/55NetworkManager suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/56atd suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit suspend suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98smart-kernel-video suspend suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99hd-apm-restore.hook suspend suspend: Advanced Power Management not supported by device sdb. saving level 255 for device sda success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend suspend: kernel.acpi_video_flags = 0 Allocated buffer at 0x11000 (base is 0x0) ES: 0x1100 EBX: 0x success. Sun Aug 23 13:04:33 EDT 2009: performing suspend --- snip --- Two things: Aug 23 13:04:32 corresponds to the latest shutdown. So, my first question is, why the heck is the box suspending? What should I check next? I checked the Common F11 bugs[1] but didn't see anything similar (I have been seeing the random screen blanking problem since installing 11, though). Has pm-utils become sentient, perhaps? The second question is what this line means: /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging suspend suspend: Linux apollo 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586
Re: random shutdowns
On 08/23/2009 01:53 PM, brian wrote: 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Since yesterday, my computer has been shutting down randomly. Several times, I had walked away from the box with nothing special running. I thought it might be a hardware issue, checked connections, etc. Just happened again. One thing I forgot to mention is that hitting the power button causes the fans to spin up (and, I think, the drives) but the monitor stays blank and there's no POST beep. I have to hold the button in until the box shuts down again before I can get it to boot properly. That seems to me to be a suspend problem. Anyway, as this is a desktop box, I decided to remove it altogether. I edited /boot/grub/menu.lst, changing: title Fedora (2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586.img to: title Fedora (2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet acpi=no apm=off noapic nolapic initrd /initrd-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586.img I'll reboot and see if the problem goes away. I'd appreciate any comments if I'm barking up the wrong tree. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the write window i'm typing now in are ok. In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up. I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss). Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check? Here's the latest from yum.log: Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox
On 08/21/2009 09:16 AM, brian wrote: thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586 firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586 Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours. Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the icons in the write window i'm typing now in are ok. In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up. I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss). Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check? Here's the latest from yum.log: Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586 Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586 Correction: some JPEGs are also displayed like this in FF. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
down the LCD panel rabbit hole
I apologise for the length; I've tried to cover as much as I (vaguely) understand. I hope I haven't left anything out. I've just purchased an LCD panel, Dell S2209W, and am trying to get the resolution sorted out. The device is rated for 1920x1080. In System/Admin/Display, the hardware is set to SIS 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA In configure the Monitor Type: Generic CRT 1024x768 I changed this to Generic LCD 1920x1080, logged out and back in as advised, and the display was now very blurry as well as stretched horizontally. When I went back into Display settings, I see that it's back at CRT 1024x768, which is odd considering the drastic change. System/Preferences/Display showed Monitor Unknown. Also (and I may be showing serious ignorance here) do I need to set the refresh rate for an LCD? I'm thinking no. I backed up xorg.conf and added 1920x1080 to the modes section, restarted X. Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1920x1080 1024x768 800x600 720x400 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection The resolution looks good, however I'm seeing a lot of flicker. I came across a site [1] that mentioned a limitation of the onboard SiS760 chip that can lead to flicker. Maybe this is the problem but, given how simple changing the resolution was, I'd like to see if there other solutions. That site has a lot of information about my chipset and linux but, frankly, my head is spinning. I have no idea if I *need* to install a new driver and don't want to go this route blindly. I then opened System/Admin/Display again and this time, the resolution is set to 1152x864 (the highest it goes) and monitor type is still CRT 1024x768. So, now I don't know what to believe. I switched it back to Generic LCD 1920x1080 and, after logging back in, the resolution has dropped again! Prefs/display shows 1280x854 @ 59Hz while Admin/display shows 1152x864. And, as if this wasn't enough to confuse me, my xorg.conf has no modes line anymore! Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection I'm also pretty confused as to why there are 2 separate display config panels in the first place. Though this machine is not used for anything remotely graphics-intensive, I understand that I may have to install a proper video card to drive this panel. If that's the case--and it'll sort out these issues--I'm fine with that. FWIW, I've been seeing an intermittent issue[2] (since upgrading to F10) where the display would be stretched vertically. I never did figure out how to resolve this permanently and wonder if it's the graphics driver. [1] http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml [2] http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-list/2009-02/msg02280.html $ lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: down the LCD panel rabbit hole
On 08/10/2009 07:38 PM, brian wrote: I then opened System/Admin/Display again and this time, the resolution is set to 1152x864 (the highest it goes) and monitor type is still CRT 1024x768. So, now I don't know what to believe. I switched it back to Generic LCD 1920x1080 and, after logging back in, the resolution has dropped again! Prefs/display shows 1280x854 @ 59Hz while Admin/display shows 1152x864. 1920x1080 - 16:9, so I changed the resolution from 1280x854 to 1280x720. This looks much better but is still far lower than it could be. I'd actually clued in about the ratio before sending but forgot to remove that bit. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: down the LCD panel rabbit hole
On 08/10/2009 08:11 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:38:20 -0400 brian wrote: SIS 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml Maybe I should clarify. As I mentioned in the original post, I've already found that site but am having a lot of trouble understanding much of it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: down the LCD panel rabbit hole
On 08/10/2009 08:06 PM, brian wrote: On 08/10/2009 08:11 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:38:20 -0400 brian wrote: SIS 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml Maybe I should clarify. As I mentioned in the original post, I've already found that site but am having a lot of trouble understanding much of it. But thanks (a lot!) for the nudge, all the same. After re-reading *carefully* that Sis driver site, and spending awhile poring over the xorg.conf man page, the clue train finally arrived. It wasn't without some issues, still, though, as I screwed up and had to go into rescue mode a couple of times until I had the conf file squared away. So, for anyone else who has similar trouble ... The above-mentioned site suggests using a blitter mode for certain chipsets if the system is using shared video memory. Indeed, Xorg.0.log had a comment along those lines. This can be set as an option in xorg.conf. The panel's user guide specifies a horiz. freq. of 55.62KHz, vert. freq. of 49.92 Hz, and a sync polarity -H/+V for 1920 x 1080 resolution. So, I edited xorg.conf to include: Section Monitor # UseModes 1920x1080-55.62 Identifier Monitor0 VendorName DEL ModelNameDELL S2209W HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 ModeLine 1920x1080-55.62 159.0 1920 2040 2240 2560 1080 1083 1088 1118 -hsync +vsync Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver sis Option XvDefaultAdaptor Blitter EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display # Modes 1920x1080-55.62 Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection (The ModeLine was actually a Mode block--not a Mode Section!--that seems to have been rewritten but whatever) As I said, I was forced into rescue mode after a failed restart. I checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log which told me that there was a: Undefined Modes Section 1920x1080-55.62 referenced by Monitor Screen0 I commented out the Modes line in Display Subsection of the Screen section (the manual says that it's optional) and rebooted. Same problem. I went into rescue mode again and saw the same error. At this point, I realised that the trouble was actually with the UseModes line of the Monitor section. The manual clearly states that this refers to a Mode section, not a Mode block (multi-line entry). I didn't have any Mode sections. Can you tell it's been a long day? Would you believe that I do a lot of proofreading for a living? I kid you not. Anyway, after another reboot, Fedora came up fine. The resolution still looked a bit too low, though. System/Administration/Display: Resolution: 1400x1050 Monitor is correctly labelled as Dell S2209W System/Preferences/Display: Resolution: 1280x720 Refresh Rate: 60Hz But resolution offered many choices now. I changed this to 1920x1080. Likewise, I was able to change the refresh to 56Hz. After the monitor blanked, my desktop was moved up and to the left, so I could only just see the bottom right corner. I used the panel's auto-adjust feature, and everything is now hunky-dory. And I learned a lot about xorg.conf, which made it all worthwhile. (ok, and the screen looks much better--let's not forget that.) Thanks again, Frank, for the push I needed to give that site another go. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: down the LCD panel rabbit hole
On 08/10/2009 09:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 19:38 -0400, brian wrote: I'm also pretty confused as to why there are 2 separate display config panels in the first place. System preferences - set up drivers and configuration for what your hardware actually is. User preferences - allows users to have custom resolutions to suit themselves, such as users with eyesight problems who want everything big. If a user doesn't set their own preferences, the default is to give them the highest resolution available. I sort of understood it that way. My confusion was mainly that the two resolution select lists didn't seem to correspond. I see, now, that it was because my xorg.conf was messed up. Or, I assume that was it. One thing, though: when I finally got it right (see my other response) the resolutions selected were both different as well as being a lot lower than the max. Though, LCDs only work well at their physical resolution. Even exact multiples of double or half resolution look disgustingly smudgy. CRT monitors often work well at several different resolutions, they don't have 1:1 mapping of graphics pixels to the dots of screen phosphors. Which would explain why it was so blurry earlier. It looked pretty miserable. You also mentioned frame rates. It's usual that LCD panels only work at one frame rate (60 Hz being common), compared to CRTs which often work across a few different rates. Most graphics cards have an array of different screen sizes and frame rates, with there being combinations of some of them that they cannot do (e.g. it may do high resolution *or* fast screen rates). If your card only offers your desired resolution at a different frame rate that your monitor users, you can't use that screen mode. That's why some people find that their desired resolution is unavailable to them. The manual for this panel lists: Mode, H Freq. (kHz), V Freq. (Hz), Pixel Clock (MHz), Sync Polarity (H/V) 640 x 350 31.47 70.09 25.18 +/- 640 x 400 31.47 70.09 25.18 -/+ 640 x 480 31.47 59.94 25.17 -/- 640 x 480 31.50 75.00 31.5-/- 720 x 400 31.47 70.08 28.32 -/+ 800 x 600 37.88 60.32 40.00 +/+ 800 x 600 46.880 75.00 49.50 +/+ 1024 x 768 48.36 60.00 65.00 -/- 1024 x 768 60.02 75.03 78.75 +/+ 1152 x 864 67.50 75.00 108.00 +/+ 1280 x 1024 63.98 60.02 108.00 +/+ 1280 x 1024 79.98 75.02 135.00 +/+ 1920 x 1080-R 66.587 59.934 138.50 +/- 1920 x 1080 55.62 49.92 141.50 -/+ I'd come across someone else's xorg.conf for use with this same LCD. However, their numbers (eg. dot clock) were slightly different. And I was stumped as to where xorg.conf's HTimings hdisp hsyncstart hsyncend htotal numbers came from. Rather than blindly follow along with this person's config, I eventually found a reference to the cvt utility. I ran: cvt 1920 1080 55.62 ... to get those figures. This is just for posterity in case someone else needs the info. Thanks for the reply, btw. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Skype and audio, again
On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 05:05 -0700, Colin Brace wrote: Hi all, Skype is driving me crazy under F11. Sometimes it works, other times not. At the moment, sort of. Audio playback works, but I can't the mic working. I've tried about all the combinations of Options/sound devices According to the Pulse volume control, the mic is working; the sound level jumps when I speak into it. I've been looking at the earlier threads on Skype in this list. Someone needed alsa-plugins-pulseaudio to get it to work. Already installed. My box has a bog-standard audio device: Intel 82801G In general, I've am having difficulty getting *reliable* audio under F11. Suddenly audio stops with Flash. Or with Rhythmbox. My only recourse is to reboot X. Yes, I've tried pulseuadio --start. Any ideas anyone? Well, to get my mic working, I ran alsamixer -c0 to adjust and set the mic speakers, then to run skype I use padsp skype which disables pulseaudio just for skype. -- Brian Millett - [ Col. Ari Ben Zayn Cdr. Jeffrey Sinclair, Eyes] You're insane. 'Maybe I am. Maybe it's crazy to think that Earth Force still respects honor, freedom and human dignity when a maggot like you can spit on some of the best officers I've ever served with, all for the sake of your own ambition.' signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: aspell rpm is defective.
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:18 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further. The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares. What is used in its place. Maybe huspell. Well, sorry but it works for me. F11 + gnome but I'm also using GNU Emacs 23.1.50.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.2) from cvs. [bpm]$ rpm -qa | grep -i aspell aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.i586 aspell-0.60.6-5.fc11.i586 aspell-devel-0.60.6-5.fc11.i586 aspell-es-0.50-18.fc11.i586 [bpm]$ rpm -ql aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.i586 /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ise-w_accents.alias ... ... ... -- Brian Millett - [ Zocalo announcer, Legacies] Attention Zocalo shoppers. You can now find all your culinary needs at Wong's Kitchen on Level 6. Fresh chak'ri are on special while they last. Please bring your own holding tank. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Do you trust the source of the packages?
I just tried to run software update again and got the following msg: -- snip -- Do you trust the source of the packages? Repository name: updates Signature URL: /etc/pki/rpm/-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386 Signature user identifier: Fedora(11) fed...@fedoraproject.org Signature identifier: D22E77F2 Package: xfsprogs-3.0.1-6.fc11 Do you recognise the user and trust the key? -- snip -- Well, yes, I recognise that. But how can I know to trust it? I see the email address is at fedoraproject.org but I have no idea how to interpret the Signature identifier nor whether updates can be spoofed. I'm not being paranoid--I figure this may have something to do with the recent updates issue and it's probably fine. I'm just curious about this. What criteria should I use to decide whether or not to accept this? Also, why in heck can't I select copy text in this kind of message dialogue? Bo! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Champlain
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 16:36 +0530, Debarshi Ray wrote: I am going to update libchamplain from 0.2.9 to 0.3.3 in Fedora 11. This involves a change in the soname, but since no other package depends on it I hope it would not be a problem. On the plus side, the GtkChamplainEmbed widget which was earlier separately released has been merged into the libchamplain tarball and we can put in a subpackage. Not to mention that potential Champlain users and developers will find this helpful. What do you think? I've been working on updating libchamplain to 0.3.3 in Rawhide, but until it gets ported to the clutter-0.9 api (or we do a clutter-0.8 compat) it's a no go for now. Regarding pushing this to F11, I really don't think we should, since the only real consumer of libchamplain is Empathy and we won't be pushing a version of it with libchamplain support to F11. Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Champlain
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 18:25 +0530, Debarshi Ray wrote: So no one is affected by this change. On the other hand, 0.2.x is old and 0.3.x is where the fun is. So atleast some developers would benefit from it and libchamplain-0.3 would also get some testing leading to a better 0.4.x. Since the are some consumers that could make use of it that I wasn't aware of, it's probably worth it (assuming we also update Rawhide, so we don't have NVR issues). Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue
On 07/10/2009 10:49 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Richard Shaw writes: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Sam Varshavchikmr...@courier-mta.com wrote: It's the screensaver. Something's causing it to trip, when it shouldn't. I was hoping wasn't the only person having that problem! Anyone have a solution other than disabling dpms? Yes. Beer. Beer, as a step towards a solution, is generally a good approach. Another mee too here, btw. I was wondering if it was just my ancient CRT that was on its last legs but then came to the realisation that it looked more like power management bug. It's annoying, but it's not the end of the world. I can see why this may be a problem if you're playing some game; except in that case, it's just a minor annoyance. I have to disagree with that. At best, it's a minor annoyance if one is working (read: trying to get stuff done). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another Firefox 3.5 problem update
On 07/09/2009 09:58 AM, Bradley wrote: I just did a bigger search of issues with Firefox 3.5 on the Mozilla website and apparently the problem I've experienced is one of a number of problems with this release. There are numerous reports of users having to downgrade back to 3.0 due to varying compatibility and website issues. It would therefore be my recommendation that Fedora (as well as any other release) to officially not use 3.5 until these issues have been resolved. If 3.5 works fine with the sites you visit, they you have dodged the bullet successfully but do not be surprised if you suddenly go to a new site (for you) and find it doesn't work. Feel free to check it out yourself. Bradley Another nonsense post, is more like it. You still have not explained *what* these problems are. Is it locking up? Crashing? Bursting into flames? What are these mysterious problems that you're supposedly giving the heads-up about? Your information so far has been little more than rumour innuendo and you've been evasive when pressed or clarification. FYI, my arse. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird SMTP Issues after Fedora 11 Upgrade
On 07/06/2009 08:53 AM, Jim Duda wrote: After upgrading from fedora 10 to fedora 11, Thunderbird (3.0 beta) is giving me fits. At first, I was unable to send any email. I figured out that I needed to disable security and authentication' checkbox in my SMTP server settings in order for mail to work. This solution however doesn't work for newsgroups. Any attempt to send an emailfrom the newsgroup reader fails. I get a message saying that I need to check my server settings. Has anyone else encountered this issue? This bug seems similar: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505084 I had to send this posting from more normal email, and not the group listing. Thanks, Jim I had the same issue, except I'm not using TB for newsgroups. But I wonder if you could simply create a duplicate entry in Outgoing Server (SMTP) Setings with the authentication option toggled and use that for news. Go into Edit/Account Settings ... and scroll down the left pane to the bottom (I had a lot of trouble locating this, myself). I'd appreciate it if someone could explain what's going on, though. Why do I need to uncheck use name and password on this F11 box but not on my others? And how/why does it work? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
terminal colours
How do I edit the colour scheme for gterm? After updating to F11, terminal is *almost* displayed the same, but certain things--like directories--are a different colour and are now unreadable. I've looked in the prefs but can't figure out how it's supposed to work. There's a colour pallete but no way to specify what colour should be assigned to what. Surely there's a text file somewhere. I've poked around in my home dir but don't see anything for gterm. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: terminal colours
On 07/06/2009 05:09 PM, Mike Williams wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Rick Stevensri...@nerd.com wrote: brian wrote: How do I edit the colour scheme for gterm? After updating to F11, terminal is *almost* displayed the same, but certain things--like directories--are a different colour and are now unreadable. Have a look at the /etc/DIR_COLORS* files. Also, see man dir_colors (yes, its really lower case). Mike Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Much better now! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
preupgrade 10 - 11 pain: network error
I've run preupgrade to download packages, etc. At some point, there was a msg stating that there was no room for a boot image (i believe--it was /boot/something) but that it would be fine if I have a wired network connection. I do, so I continued. However, upon rebooting, I'm seeing Waiting for NetworkManager to configure eth0 ... followed by, There was an error configuring your network interface. The box is, indeed, using a *working* wired ethernet connection (I downloaded the packages, after all). I am not using DHCP. The box is on an internal LAN with a floppyFW router. Can anyone tell me ... 1) how to find out *what* this error is? 2) if I cannot resolve the problem, how to make this box bootable into F10 again? 3) how to then retry the upgrade process? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade 10 - 11 pain: network error
stan wrote: On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:55:22 -0400 brian br...@zijn-digital.com wrote: I've run preupgrade to download packages, etc. At some point, there was a msg stating that there was no room for a boot image (i believe--it was /boot/something) but that it would be fine if I have a wired network connection. I do, so I continued. However, upon rebooting, I'm seeing Waiting for NetworkManager to configure eth0 ... followed by, There was an error configuring your network interface. The box is, indeed, using a *working* wired ethernet connection (I downloaded the packages, after all). I am not using DHCP. The box is on an internal LAN with a floppyFW router. Do you have command prompt access at that point? If you do, try running ifconfig, to see what is going on. Check /var/log/messages. Network Manager probably has an error log, but I'm not familiar with it. If you have a static IP address (that's how I interpret 'I'm not using DHCP'), then you should just need to, as root, do ifup eth0 . I think NM is getting confused by the static address. Thanks for the response. I had to go out for a bit and, after booting, I got back into F10 without any problem. I'd assumed (yeah, I know) that it would attempt to continue the install process again. I see nothing at all in /var/log/messages between when I rebooted at preupgrade's prompt and this latest boot. I guess nothing is logged when booting into anaconda. Does that make sense? There are anaconda.[log,syslog,xlog] but those are from Jan. 2008 :-( As for getting a command line, this I did try when faced with the installer erro. I should have been more clear about that: how can I get a terminal from that point? 3) how to then retry the upgrade process? Do the preupgrade command again. All the packages will already have been downloaded, so it will be faster, though still not quick. But if your network card is the issue, it will fail the same way until you can get around the NM error in finding your card. Check at bugzilla if this issue has been reported, and if there is a workaround there. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/ I figured that as the packages are already here. So, if I can resize the /boot partition, preupgrade should then grab what it needs and I can avoid the network problem, maybe? As I see it, I either find a way to get a terminal from within anaconda after the reboot, or I somehow resize /boot. This latter I've been trying to sort out with my good friend google. If anyone cares to chip in, my disk details are below. [pop...@apollo ~]$ fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00086507 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux /dev/sda2 14996479931407+ 8e Linux LVM Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1972978148161 83 Linux [pop...@apollo ~]$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 19G 4.9G 14G 28% / /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol02 24G 14G 9.4G 59% /home /dev/sda1 99M 49M 46M 52% /boot tmpfs 743M 636K 743M 1% /dev/shm /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol05 4.8G 520M 4.0G 12% /usr/local /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol04 13G 6.8G 5.2G 57% /var /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol03 6.8G 19M 6.5G 1% /tmp /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol06 3.8G 218M 3.4G 6% /opt /dev/sdb1 74G 13G 58G 18% /mnt/backup -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade 10 - 11 pain: network error
brian wrote: stan wrote: On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:55:22 -0400 brian br...@zijn-digital.com wrote: I've run preupgrade to download packages, etc. At some point, there was a msg stating that there was no room for a boot image (i believe--it was /boot/something) but that it would be fine if I have a wired network connection. I do, so I continued. However, upon rebooting, I'm seeing Waiting for NetworkManager to configure eth0 ... followed by, There was an error configuring your network interface. I found this: preupgrade will not work with static ips https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475027 Indeed, it seemed strange that I wasn't given the option to configure the network. I'm going to try what this comment suggests: -- snip -- Comment #7 From Will Woods 2008-12-15 16:51:49 EDT --- Asked the anaconda guys; F10 anaconda stage1 defaults to DHCP if you use a kickstart (which preupgrade does) and you fail to specify network options. You can work around by either removing the 'ks=XX' param or adding a network --bootproto=static ... command to /boot/upgrade/ks.cfg. Check http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart for details on the network command. -- snip -- But I'm wondering *when* I can edit that. If I run preupgrade again, how do I edit that file before rebooting if it's preupgrade that generates the file? Presumably, the file is written to after the user clicks reboot. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade 10 - 11 pain: network error
On 07/05/2009 10:50 PM, stan wrote: On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:24:51 -0400 brianbr...@zijn-digital.com wrote: But I'm wondering *when* I can edit that. If I run preupgrade again, how do I edit that file before rebooting if it's preupgrade that generates the file? Presumably, the file is written to after the user clicks reboot. Try passing the anaconda option asknetwork (or the static one you found) to preupgrade on the command line when you start it. Maybe it gets passed on to anaconda. Reporting back from a shiny new F11! I added the following to /boot/upgrade/ks.cfg: network --bootproto=static --ip=192.168.1.2 \ --netmask=255.255.255.0 --gateway=192.168.1.1 \ --nameserver=4.2.2.1 --device=eth0 (this was all on one line, without the backslashes) I ran preupgrade again and, when presented with the reboot button, reopened /boot/upgrade/ks.cfg It had, indeed, been completely overwritten (I knew it was generated by preupgrade but thought it might save that line). However, the good news was that it had written and closed the file before offering the reboot. I was concerned it might do all that when the user initiates the reboot. So, I added that line and went ahead with the reboot. Long story short: anaconda connected fine and the upgrade was successful. I'll start a new thread regarding the /boot partition issue. Thanks for your help. UPDATE: sending this from my Mac--Thunderbird is unusable :-( -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Feature proposal: Extended Life Cycle Support
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 00:22 +0200, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:58:52 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote I wanted to draw your attention to a feature I've proposed for Fedora 12, mysteriously called Extended Life Cycle. Is it that time of the year again? Geez, I was going to say thing. Didn't we have this discussion about 8 months ago? Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org identi.ca: http://identi.ca/bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: an update to automake-1.11?
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 14:05 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: But is this the type of upgrade that makes sense in general? It seems to me that we should be very conservative in upgrading build tools, especially in maintenance mode distributions like F9 and F10. Totally agree with you. We shouldn't be pushing updates to build tools in our stable releases unless there is a really strong reason for it. Later, /B -- Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org identi.ca: http://identi.ca/bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
No, I didn't have a custom kernel, it was the one that shipped with F11, though I also tried with the first kernel update after that, not sure what version it was. Like I said, I reinstalled and started with encrypted root, so I can't reproduce the issue anymore. -Brian On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:37 PM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Il Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:07:36 -0400, Brian Mearns ha scritto: Thanks for the continued assistance, Davide. My cipher is the same as yours. I'm going to try making my initrd module order match yours, and see if that helps. Hi, Brian. I'm interested in crypto and software issues, and I'm new in fedora world, so I really enjoy your problem ;-) A question: do you have a custom kernel? if so, try with a fedora one, I'm using it and it has all the stuff needed by this crypto setup. Let me know. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
Well, thanks for the efforts to assist on this, I decided to just bite the bullet over the weekend, and re-installed F11 from the Live-CD, starting right off the bat with an encrypted root, and it works fine. Hopefully the tools will exist in the near future to more easily introduce root-drive encryption after installation, but now that it's re-installed, it's working fine. -Brian On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Brian Mearnsbmea...@ieee.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: davide lists4davide at gmail.com writes: choosed oh my gosh! sorry! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Thanks for the continued assistance, Davide. My cipher is the same as yours. I'm going to try making my initrd module order match yours, and see if that helps. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: davide lists4davide at gmail.com writes: choosed oh my gosh! sorry! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Thanks for the continued assistance, Davide. My cipher is the same as yours. I'm going to try making my initrd module order match yours, and see if that helps. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Google Gadgets
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 21:36 -0700, Craig White wrote: F10 (if that matters) - KDE Looks cool but every gadget that requires data input like city/state/zip code for weather gadgets, I can click in a box but it never allows me to type. I can change languages for translation gadget or a quotation gadget but it won't actually save the change and I am stuck in English. Does anyone use google gadgets and have success? I do under compiz, widget layer. Enable by setting the widget window behavior to include class=Ggl-qt and the google gadgets work fine. -- Brian Millett - [ Garibaldi (to Sinclair), Soul Hunter] I really hate it when you get heroic. Cuts into my business. Man's gotta earn a living, you know? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [was (no subject)] Wireless in F11
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:22 AM, z3...@libero.itz3...@libero.it wrote: Hi, i'm a new user of Fedora 'cause I was using another distribution of linux and i want to put F11 on my laptop (Hp 6735s) but I tryed the live version and the wifi is not working...i wanna jnow if is just a live problem and if is like that installing F11 the problem will be solved or is a problem with the wireless hardware (Broadcom 802.11). Are just some months that i'm using linux and i'm not so good at it. thank's to everybody! ivan [clipped] In my experience, Linux is still somewhat immature in the wireless area, but does seem to be catching up rapidly (this is obviously a pretty high demand area). As with most linux-hardware issues, the real problem is vendor support for the Linux kernel. But I digress. I'm guessing the problem will not magically solve itself just by installing F11, but I can't say for sure. I think certain wireless devices just aren't supported in Linux yet, but if you already had it working in another distro, then that's probably not the issue. Personally, I've only tried a few different wireless devices with linux, but the only one that I could get to work was the Linksys WUSB54GC USB Wireless network adapter, but I think any device that uses Ralink rt73 chipset has good support in Linux. Specifically, the drivers for this chipset are part of the Fedora distro: I just recently installed F11 and didn't have to do anything special, the USB wireless adapter just worked. Info on what other chipsets/devices currently enjoy Linux support are avaiable at this page: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_hostif.php Hope that helps some. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Brian Mearnsbmea...@ieee.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:20 PM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Il Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:28:14 -0400, Brian Mearns ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Mearns bmearns at ieee.org writes: Thanks for the response, Davide. /boot is a seperate, non-LVM partition with its own ext3 fs. I know F11 has options for encrypting during setup, but I've already got it set up, and would now like to go back and switch over to an excrypted root filesystem without having to reinstall. I think your suggestion of using a Live CD implies that I would reinstall Fedora, which I don't want to do. have you all the needed modules compiled into the kernel or into the initrd? otherwise I would give a look at /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab Also, it's not grub asking for the root, I'm referring to the root parameter for the kernel. Yes, I think you mean the root parameter into the grub config, it is a parameter for the kernel. I would suppose is used by the kernel to find out where are modules and filesystem. [clipped] Thanks, again, Davide. crypttab and fstab should be fine, as init is able to mount the device correctly. I'm not sure if I have all the correct modules: I ran mkinitrd with --with=aes --with=sha256 and tried to boot using the generated initrd.img, but perhaps there are additional modules I need? Thanks, thanks to Robert, I opened the init, I copy here the relevant part. tell me if it helps, or I can try to investigate more deeply. echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo Creating character device nodes. mkchardevs echo Loading dm-crypt module modprobe -q dm-crypt echo Loading aes module modprobe -q aes echo Loading cbc module modprobe -q cbc echo Loading sha256 module modprobe -q sha256 echo Loading pata_acpi module modprobe -q pata_acpi echo Loading ata_generic module modprobe -q ata_generic echo Making device-mapper control node mkdmnod modprobe scsi_wait_scan rmmod scsi_wait_scan mkblkdevs [clipped] I'm back home and can get some additional information about this. Attempting to boot using the crypto-initrd.img, which I generated with mkinitrd --with=aes --with=sha256 and specifying the LUKS/cryptsetup encrypted drive for the kernel's root parameter, the boot process gets to the point of asking me for a password, then mentions a few things about an EXT4-fs (not sure which one, but no error's reported here), then gives the following messages before hanging: SELinux: policydb magic number 0xe4f0 does not match expected magic number 0xf97cff8c request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- I am able to restart the system uneventfully at this point by pressing ctrl-alt-del. Attempting to boot with the same initrd img, but specifying an unecrypted partition for the kernel's root parameter, it all comes up fine, but does still ask me for a password during boot. I'm going to attempt to debug my initrd img, as suggested, but I'm not sure how well I'll be able to understand the script. So if anyone has any additional advice, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, again. -Brian [clipped] Well, I opened my initrd init-script, but very little of it means anything to me. Davide indicated a certain section in his script as relevant, so I've included that section of mine. It's a bit different, but I'm not sure if that's relevant: ### echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo Creating character device nodes. mkchardevs echo Loading aes module modprobe -q aes echo Loading cbc module modprobe -q cbc echo Loading sha256 module modprobe -q sha256 echo Loading sata_nv module modprobe -q sata_nv echo Loading pata_acpi module modprobe -q pata_acpi echo Loading ata_generic module modprobe -q ata_generic echo Loading dm-crypt module modprobe -q dm-crypt echo Making device-mapper control node mkdmnod modprobe scsi_wait_scan rmmod scsi_wait_scan mkblkdevs echo Scanning logical volumes ### So if this means anything to anybody and they can give me any help on how to proceed, I'd super appreciate it. Thanks, -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Robert L Cochrancochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Umm, you know the /boot partition has to be ext3? Grub cannot handle an ext4 /boot. I know this has not a thing to do with encryption, but I thought I'd ask just to be sure. Bob Thanks, Bob. I'm not positive off hand what my /boot partition is (not at home right now), but I'm fairly sure it's ext3. Specifically, I /am/ able to boot this system using the same /boot as long as I don't try to load the kernel with an encrypted root. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [was (no subject)] Wireless in F11
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Timothy Murphygayle...@eircom.net wrote: Brian Mearns wrote: In my experience, Linux is still somewhat immature in the wireless area, but does seem to be catching up rapidly (this is obviously a pretty high demand area). As with most linux-hardware issues, the real problem is vendor support for the Linux kernel. That does not seem to me to be relevant unless you intend to use vendor-supplied drivers. In my experience this is bound to cause problems sooner or later, unless you have decided you will never update your system. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin [clipped] I didn't specifically mean vendor-supplied drivers, I meant vendor support of the Linux community so that proper drivers can be written. Like HP, for instance, has a pretty good connection to the Linux/Unix community and has apparently been pretty forthcoming with information in support of linux drivers for HP printers. But, as far as I know, the drivers are not actually written by HP. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Encrypted Root with F11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I apologize if this has been asked before, I checked the most recent archives and didn't find anything. I've successfully set up two separate LUKS encrypted logical-volumes, one for home and one for root. Everything appeared to be working fine, until I tried to delete my old root logical-volume and found out it was still in use: the kernel was using it as the root, even though mount had then replaced it at / with the encrypted one. So I tried simply changing the root parameter to the kernel (from grub.conf) so it points to the encrypted one, but when I boot, the startup routine stops after a little while and just hangs there until I ctrl-alt-del, and then it restarts. I don't think it's reaching init, because I haven't seen any of the usual Starting some server... [OK] messages. I guess that makes sense if it's failing to load the root device, it wouldn't get to init. So can anyone help me get this set up properly? I have a basic understanding of the boot process and I guess that something needs to be changed in initrd to tell it to unlock the encrypted root disk before mounting it. But I have no idea how to do that. On a related note, can anyone explain what's actually required of the root FS loaded by the kernel? I tried setting up just a 1GB empty ext3 filesystem to use as the root, and then let mount replace it with the encrypted one once init starts, but this also caused the startup process to hang: apparently having a filesystem alone is insufficient, there actually needs to be some stuff on it? I'm using Fedora 11 on a Compaq Presario laptop (x86). Many thanks for any help, - -Brian - -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJKQ3DgAAoJEHOUulIkSI7cJQgH/0V4qxE9hMJaLK/79tsczNmP sDf48rhd0dJGhF+cvHtQg+57F3j0GX6nHYvD6810xApd5eTzALJ2/Ug6BOgC2aL5 dw+kw6rebquyXDCrknsAavxWZNkRJYooTguOSSPIwP2815aAG7wWoecqR+ESzaO3 yQfLM5tUPo+xVkBdlC8NS+UO9+nKFXlfTTO1qCexutwxsJdwSvXJvZ4Hiu2r68jz 7PAtr4QkR1PSUyxpTY08wcZV39s1F+X9WzE99lKoz/KjHymLvSOrkW8kS7OSAyoH EK5AfujeZ85HMu1Hf2bw4D6OgSq9l2yHTZ8yZpQEIPNrv0+/36JijmN/2MLz4Xs= =1Na5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, I edited the message after signing it. The signature was invalid, this was is correct. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Brian Mearnsbmea...@ieee.org wrote: I apologize if this has been asked before, I checked the most recent archives and didn't find anything. I've successfully set up two separate LUKS encrypted logical-volumes, one for home and one for root. Everything appeared to be working fine, until I tried to delete my old root logical-volume and found out it was still in use: the kernel was using it as the root, even though mount had then replaced it at / with the encrypted one. So I tried simply changing the root parameter to the kernel (from grub.conf) so it points to the encrypted one, but when I boot, the startup routine stops after a little while and just hangs there until I ctrl-alt-del, and then it restarts. I don't think it's reaching init, because I haven't seen any of the usual Starting some server... [OK] messages. I guess that makes sense if it's failing to load the root device, it wouldn't get to init. So can anyone help me get this set up properly? I have a basic understanding of the boot process and I guess that something needs to be changed in initrd to tell it to unlock the encrypted root disk before mounting it. But I have no idea how to do that. On a related note, can anyone explain what's actually required of the root FS loaded by the kernel? I tried setting up just a 1GB empty ext3 filesystem to use as the root, and then let mount replace it with the encrypted one once init starts, but this also caused the startup process to hang: apparently having a filesystem alone is insufficient, there actually needs to be some stuff on it? I'm using Fedora 11 on a Compaq Presario laptop (x86). Many thanks for any help, - -Brian - -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJKQ3FxAAoJEHOUulIkSI7cA9AH/1MVKuxOg9udqRBDwxLOQwSM 6A+iEDWZVj5e+oCJg62RNeuh++oZLVpHx8EWvH7G5S5T1NvSvnQomim7kvJgoqei 1+TEhc9iy99isZJ6Qqc+e2CTljXIsb48/nddTc+oWa2LSN1wnRR0x/cBW9tUopro K4wRwzwa/UcPh/wRPEWFDHXM6Pgbdq/3PVJZR2s0VG9HZAz4hGfxRNSdJeFFcsOz xvAoOtCifp5ssr2p/+JYKtjTw7e63LVUHh5/ALjCHo89ILcnjos3549b3AOI7MeJ 8kp73u3c6z99TB7+LjydenIRc2l25WYEEkhVFWLRFKJwDYvK/G61l4epde05FF8= =4Qhh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sometime prior to 09:29 25 Jun 2009, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Mearns bmearns at ieee.org writes: So can anyone help me get this set up properly? I have a basic understanding of the boot process and I guess that something needs to be changed in initrd to tell it to unlock the encrypted root disk before mounting it. But I have no idea how to do that. you do not mention your /boot partition, where is it? is it on a clear (ext3) partition? grub cannot mount a encrypted partition. I set up a F11 recently with LVM-over-dm-crypt. To do it, I followed a nice guide found on the internet, basically you start with a live cd (the fedora one), create the dm-crypt volume, mount it, create the LVM setup, start the installation, mount all the stuff as it is supposed to be mount and it's done. (probably grub ask about the root partition just coz it need it for stuff like modules, logs, /dev and so on...) [clipped] Thanks for the response, Davide. /boot is a seperate, non-LVM partition with its own ext3 fs. I know F11 has options for encrypting during setup, but I've already got it set up, and would now like to go back and switch over to an excrypted root filesystem without having to reinstall. I think your suggestion of using a Live CD implies that I would reinstall Fedora, which I don't want to do. Also, it's not grub asking for the root, I'm referring to the root parameter for the kernel. Thanks, - -Brian - -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJKQ3zCAAoJEHOUulIkSI7catQIALMaL4cqC6a40QJSpRwYbvL8 BSebgkXWGHYWAvBMyEyWDpzOwiY2+ZS821sdtZ4uiG/XIZeEDa8XP4vive1hGwm2 1A1F7AL7y7AwoTc4FZ2xKxDfFsn/Tr45r7TUoYfml/7IaVkUuR9KXYYkHbj1CYOb 055tMUWMYv/VonKLoqTiozfsh9V6QUdwvTqjyrVgJL+R0F84MMcB6uodB6/3+zcK qpr8316xwySXk1r76Y0G6h+Q1DC8OQIJsLeBt8FK09iGM26ApcXgh3gpO9PrtV9B a9w+xuHQz2Ampej2/Jun52cM/Ez19FpMqccT2HuHuOetPby9wBd4XKdCIEyHuAw= =8D50 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Mearns bmearns at ieee.org writes: Thanks for the response, Davide. /boot is a seperate, non-LVM partition with its own ext3 fs. I know F11 has options for encrypting during setup, but I've already got it set up, and would now like to go back and switch over to an excrypted root filesystem without having to reinstall. I think your suggestion of using a Live CD implies that I would reinstall Fedora, which I don't want to do. have you all the needed modules compiled into the kernel or into the initrd? otherwise I would give a look at /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab Also, it's not grub asking for the root, I'm referring to the root parameter for the kernel. Yes, I think you mean the root parameter into the grub config, it is a parameter for the kernel. I would suppose is used by the kernel to find out where are modules and filesystem. [clipped] Thanks, again, Davide. crypttab and fstab should be fine, as init is able to mount the device correctly. I'm not sure if I have all the correct modules: I ran mkinitrd with --with=aes --with=sha256 and tried to boot using the generated initrd.img, but perhaps there are additional modules I need? Thanks, -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted Root with F11
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:20 PM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Il Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:28:14 -0400, Brian Mearns ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:03 AM, davidelists4dav...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Mearns bmearns at ieee.org writes: Thanks for the response, Davide. /boot is a seperate, non-LVM partition with its own ext3 fs. I know F11 has options for encrypting during setup, but I've already got it set up, and would now like to go back and switch over to an excrypted root filesystem without having to reinstall. I think your suggestion of using a Live CD implies that I would reinstall Fedora, which I don't want to do. have you all the needed modules compiled into the kernel or into the initrd? otherwise I would give a look at /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab Also, it's not grub asking for the root, I'm referring to the root parameter for the kernel. Yes, I think you mean the root parameter into the grub config, it is a parameter for the kernel. I would suppose is used by the kernel to find out where are modules and filesystem. [clipped] Thanks, again, Davide. crypttab and fstab should be fine, as init is able to mount the device correctly. I'm not sure if I have all the correct modules: I ran mkinitrd with --with=aes --with=sha256 and tried to boot using the generated initrd.img, but perhaps there are additional modules I need? Thanks, thanks to Robert, I opened the init, I copy here the relevant part. tell me if it helps, or I can try to investigate more deeply. echo Creating block device nodes. mkblkdevs echo Creating character device nodes. mkchardevs echo Loading dm-crypt module modprobe -q dm-crypt echo Loading aes module modprobe -q aes echo Loading cbc module modprobe -q cbc echo Loading sha256 module modprobe -q sha256 echo Loading pata_acpi module modprobe -q pata_acpi echo Loading ata_generic module modprobe -q ata_generic echo Making device-mapper control node mkdmnod modprobe scsi_wait_scan rmmod scsi_wait_scan mkblkdevs [clipped] I'm back home and can get some additional information about this. Attempting to boot using the crypto-initrd.img, which I generated with mkinitrd --with=aes --with=sha256 and specifying the LUKS/cryptsetup encrypted drive for the kernel's root parameter, the boot process gets to the point of asking me for a password, then mentions a few things about an EXT4-fs (not sure which one, but no error's reported here), then gives the following messages before hanging: SELinux: policydb magic number 0xe4f0 does not match expected magic number 0xf97cff8c request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt- I am able to restart the system uneventfully at this point by pressing ctrl-alt-del. Attempting to boot with the same initrd img, but specifying an unecrypted partition for the kernel's root parameter, it all comes up fine, but does still ask me for a password during boot. I'm going to attempt to debug my initrd img, as suggested, but I'm not sure how well I'll be able to understand the script. So if anyone has any additional advice, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, again. -Brian -- Feel free to contact me using PGP Encryption: Key Id: 0x3AA70848 Available from: http://keys.gnupg.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype is a CPU hog on Fedora 11
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 15:03, Robert Wuestrwues...@wuest.org wrote: Skype was working fine on Fedora 10, but on 11 it consumes 100% of a CPU Is the CPU at 100% all of the time, or only when Skype is in use? Is Skype configured to use PulseAudio? If I set Skype to use PulseAudio for the ringing device, it uses 100% CPU when it plays sounds, and for several seconds afterwards. This doesn't always happen the first few times it plays sounds, but will start happening after it has been in use for a while (it doesn't take long). Setting it to the ALSA device works. Strangely enough, I had this problem on a previous Fedora version (9? 10? I forget), but it eventually went away - after some software updates, if I recall correctly, but my memory is pretty hazy on this. Seems it's back in F11... :-( BTW, I haven't tried using PulseAudio for the sound in/sound out devices, so I don't know how that would behave. I have a USB headset that is used only for Skype. Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype is a CPU hog on Fedora 11
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 17:43 -0600, Robert Wuest wrote: I do not see an ALSA option. Only the default (no workie), several HDA Intel options (no workie), HDMI (no workie), and Pulse (works). By ALSA I meant any of the non-pulse options - it's my understanding that Skype is using ALSA. I could be wrong. I simply set Sound In and Sound Out to Logitech USB Headset (hw:Headset,0) - you would pick whatever sound device you wish to use - and set Ringing to C-Media CMI8738 (hw:CMI8738,0) - again, pick whatever makes sense for you. Yes, this will cause conflicts if something else is using the sound device, but it's not a big problem for me. The headset is used only for skype, and if I am listening to music, then I don't get audio alerts when someone IMs or calls me. So, this might be interesting: what would happen if I just rpm -e'd everything pulse? It will take a whole bunch of dependencies with it. You can try it, but I don't think you'll be happy. You should be able to leave pulse installed but not use it, though I've never done it and don't know how to do it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: glxgears nonsense on F11
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 17:30 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: date. When I run glxgears I get the gear display in the yop left corner, just as I expect but instead of getting the frame rate display in the terminal window I get endless ream of this: CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) [snip] I get that too. Booting with kernel modesetting turned off fixes it. No great loss - modesetting causes lots of problems on my system, including such frequent X crashes that the machine is almost unusable. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Multiple gcc
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Giany giany...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:41:50AM -0400, Mauriat Miranda wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Jakub Jelinekja...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 04:16:51PM -0500, Brian Truter wrote: Is it possible to install multiple gcc packages on Fedora? I am using gcc 4.4 from Fedora 11, but I would also like to install 4.3 from Fedora 10, and switch compiles when needed by setting env variables, or something similar. Is this possible, and if so, does anyone have any info? Just rpm2cpio the other gcc to a different directory. mkdir ~/gcc-4.3 cd ~/gcc-4.3 for i in *-4.3*.rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -pduv; done and then ~/gcc-4.3/usr/bin/gcc ~/gcc-4.3/usr/bin/g++ ~/gcc-4.4/usr/bin/gfortran etc. should just work. Curious, would the '--prefix' flag for RPM help? Likely, yes. Likely, no. [r...@localhost log]# rpm -qi gcc Name: gcc Relocations: (*not relocatable* ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I tried a few of the suggestions here, but no luck so far. Too many dependencies involved it seems to sort it all out -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Pam_mount questions
I'm in the process of moving from Ubuntu Studio to F10 with Planetccrma because US has been a little to unstable for me recently. Anyways I've got a test machine setup with F10 and ccrma (on a laptop currently). Everything is working quite well right now. One thing I need is to attach to various samba shares during boot. I've got pam_mount setup and it is working fine while on my work network. However, when I bring the laptop home and connect to my home network, the login takes forever (because the mapping of the shares from work timeout.) What I would like to be able to do is use pam_mount to automount certain shares while at work and then also mount certain shares while at home, but not have it take forever because it has to timeout when it tries to mount the unavailable shares. Is there some kind of statement/command/setting I can put in the pam_mount.conf.xml or something else I can do so that when I'm on $WORK network certain shares are mounted, but not $HOME shares and vice-versa? My google magic isn't working today I guess as I have not found anything yet. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brian -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gstreamer-plugins-bad where art thou?
trying to update the gstreamer packages, there seems to be one missing: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdeinterlace.so from install of gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.11-4.fc11.i586 file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstflv.so from install of gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.11-4.fc11.i586 file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsty4menc.so from install of gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.11-4.fc11.i586 Did gstreamer-plugins-bad not get built? -- Brian Millett - [ Laurel Takeshima, The Gathering] We were talking the other day about how nobody's seen a Vorlon before and he said that according to legend, one human did see a Vorlon...he turned to stone. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gstreamer-plugins-bad where art thou?
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 12:30 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On 16/06/09 12:25, Brian Millett wrote: trying to update the gstreamer packages, there seems to be one missing: Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdeinterlace.so from install of gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.11-4.fc11.i586 file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstflv.so from install of gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.11-4.fc11.i586 file /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgsty4menc.so from install of gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-1.fc11.i586 conflicts with file from package gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.11-4.fc11.i586 Did gstreamer-plugins-bad not get built? There's a conflict. you have to either remove the good to use the bad. Or leave the good forget the bad. iirc Really? So gstreamer-plugins-good supplies the plugins that gstreamer-plugins-bad did? I don't think so. Back to the issue, someone needs to kick the build for gstreamer-plugins-bad -- Brian Millett - [ Draal and Delenn, A Voice in the Wilderness I] Our world is changing, Delenn. I'm not sure when it began to change: perhaps the war, perhaps the death of Dukaht, perhaps the darkness was there all along and we refused to see it. 'If you're referring to the growing division between the religious and military castes...' That and more than that. There is a sense that we are lost, adrift. In the streets, in the temples, you can hear it in their voices, their manner: an anger just beneath the surface, a growing dissatisfaction, a self-involvement above the needs of others. It is not the same world in which I was born, Delenn. Not the same at all. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
