Re: for Tonya re Lovey/Del
Thanks Brenda. Yes, I've been worried. lol. I'm sure they're fine. I hope you're able to transport today. I know Barb works on Monday, but she does work for the state, so she may be off for president's day. Keep me posted. t"Brenda K. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonya. Yes, Del has the babies and they are fine. She thinks they are wonderful. I just know you miss Lovey especially :) and Merry. I have to get to bed in case we go today to get them. There is a big winter snow storm brewing which is supposed to hit southern Wisconsin and northern Illinois today, Sunday. If so, Tom will overnight the kitties. We haven't been able to contact Barb to see if she can continue the leg on Monday instead of Sunday, but we will figure it out. You will be the first to know when we have them safe and home. You will always be their very, very special person and we will always keep you updated and in their lives. :) I only know that Del has them, nothing more. Like you, I am waiting on pins and needles.-- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. catatonya wrote: Did everyone get there alright??? I've been worried and haven't heard from anyone. :( t No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.0.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005
Re: OT: Skin Problem
Cherie, I too wonder what is going on with this woman. I assumed she took the cat in and had it examined? Surely her vet didn't give her fulvicin based ona phone call? Fulvicin is a medication that is hard on cat's systems, particularly kittens In my experience vets won't prescribe it unless topicals don't do the job because of the problems it can cause. Ringworm IS very contagious. I would not bring the kitten home until it's treated, unless you feel the person is not treating it correctly... tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cherie,I'm confused, maybe I haven't been following this closely enough. From what you said before, it doesn't sound like ringworm. If the woman who is fostering your new baby doesn't know what she's got, why is she treating her with something for ringworm? I've never heard of Fulvicin, so I don't know if that's a full-spectrum type of treatment. If I were you, I'd find out what the heck is going on with her skin before I brought her home. If there's even a chance that its something contagious, you don't want to expose the rest of the family to it. From what I've read and heard about ringworm, it's nasty, nasty stuff. It is contagious to people as well as animals and very hard to get rid of. Not to mention that the treatments are hard on the immune system and would be a nightmare for your positives. Why hasn't the new baby, (I'm sorry I've forgotten her name), been taken to a vet for diagnosis? I would strongly advise you do that asap. When you know what you're dealing with the decisions will be easier to make.NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: Fulvicin, treats ringworm, according to the woman she is mixing it in her food...I just am not there and do not want to bring any other problems into my furrfamilyI am so undecided...should I wait another week or go get my new furrbaby and take the chance..[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Fulvicin?I don't know if it can be anything contagious, but if it is flaky skin and fur I would supplement with essential fatty acids (fish oils). There are a bunch of cat supplements with EFA's in them, specifically for coat problems. Michelle
Re: OT: Skin Problem
For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmother told us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've never seen it not work. But it's messy, I always have to be careful about getting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug stores here still have it for a few dollars. Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, not messy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouth ulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store. FYI - Gloria At 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary. Thanks Cherie
Re: miatia
you can also smear some food on her paws so she'll at least taste the foodstuff you're trying to get her interested in. sometimes a cat gets nauseous and won't eat after that. use a wooden tongue depressor and try to smear a little food inside the side of one of her cheeks also. deli meats always seem to interest my gang. also those cooked chickens from the grocery store. and heck, i'm here on Long Island NYand it's still a battle to educate my vets about leukemia and what's new in the field. and remember to just love Miatia. try to stay calm around her and stroke her gently. and please when you find time, alert someone to the situation at that farm. there might be several leukemia postive cats there -all with no proper attention. take care, barbara - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:05 AM Subject: RE: miatia Just keep in mind that almost any food is better than no food. If she was living on a farm she may have gotten used to leftover people food so try things like any sort of cold cuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, the water from a can of the dark tuna the tuna if shell eat it. Baby food without any onions. Cheese. Just try a little see if shell take it. I saw the other post about syringing her you can usually buy a large syringe (top only without needle) at a pharmacy like cvs, etc. Also, try to make sure shes drinking a little. You can always put some water on her paws or her mouth, at least shell lick that up. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of crystal dunhamSent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:21 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: miatia miatia is 9months old and as of yesterday see was eating but today she has not as of yet I will be calling the vet frist thing monday morn,of corse can not get ahold of him on the weekend I have wrote down a list of meds that I found on this site to talk to the vet about and she tested postive 4 weeks ago we dont know if she got it from her mom or from the other cats that she was living on that farm with but the vet said she more the likley had it when we got her cause she was very ill when she was gotten for me.I am going to try and fight to keep her alive no matter what the coast I have already taken my car of the road to save money for her I just wish we lived were there were vets that would fight for her health the way im trying.I will let you all know monday what her vet says and does once I give him the info i have wrote down from this web site on the kinds of treatment untill monday thang you all for you help
Re: OT: Skin Problem
I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point. Gloria At 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote: I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days. Thank you for your input Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmother told us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've never seen it not work. But it's messy, I always have to be careful about getting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug stores here still have it for a few dollars. Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, not messy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouth ulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store. FYI - Gloria At 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary. Thanks Cherie
Re: OT: Skin Problem
Thanks, it looks like with all this information I may pick her up on Tuesday...I would hate to have her stay another week with this gal. Cherie"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point.GloriaAt 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days.Thank you for your input"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmothertold us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've neverseen it not work. But it's messy, I always have to be careful aboutgetting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug storeshere still have it for a few dollars.Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, notmessy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouthulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.FYI -GloriaAt 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary. Thanks Cherie
Re: OT: Skin Problem
I was also wondering how long after applications would it be contagious. When you used it on Sparkle's ears were you concerned for your other cats, and did anyone esle get it? "Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point.GloriaAt 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days.Thank you for your input"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmothertold us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've neverseen it not work. But it's messy, I always have to be careful aboutgetting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug storeshere still have it for a few dollars.Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, notmessy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouthulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.FYI -GloriaAt 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary. Thanks Cherie
Re: OT: Skin Problem
Dear Cherie: While Fulvicin is not horrendously toxic, any kind of chemical we put on our pets can be potentially harmful, especially to young kittens and pups. I had a cat once that crashed from a spot-on flea product and went into in toxic shock, yet many cats tolerate such products quite well. I had to take her to emergency and she had to have a blood transfusion. My first choice in treating a problem is to go with an herbal or homeopathic remedy and only use drug therapy as a last resort. I have never had to deal with ringworm and while it is a fungal type thing, it usually most affects those whose immune function is not up to snuff. Young kittens and pups who have immature immune systems and are not in the best condition, as is often the case with feral or abandoned kittens (and adults, too) are likely victims. Once it gets started, it can spread quite easily, so you do want to make sure it is not ringworm before you bring the new kitty home unless you have a place to isolate her and are careful with hygiene. I can understand where the kitten's foster mom is coming from...I do rescue and there are lots of times when I have to wing it in treating minor problems, but I only do so with something I have experience treating and I always try a kinder, gentler method to start with. But if that isn't working and a problem is not responding, I will find a way to get the furkid to vet to find out for sure what I am dealing with. I do find it a bit irritating that even after you offered to pay for the treatment that she can't find time to take the kitten to a vet, but then who knows what else and all she has on her plate to deal with. I am not well-versed on dealing with ringworm. I do know that when exposed to a certain kind of light or perhaps a chemical of some sort, because ringworm is a fungus (not a parasite as the name implies) it will, typically flouresce. But I also know from chatting with listmember Nina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) who recently had a ringworm scare with one of her dogs, that sometimes a ringworm infection does not present typical symptoms. Have you tried doing a search to find out more about ringworm and how to treat it? I do have another friend who does rescue and she took in two kittens in very poor condition that had ringworm. I don't remember what she treated them with, but they both recovered and the infection did not spread to any of her healthy kittys. Another friend took the third sibling to the two, and she did have two older kittens that seemed to be mildly affected from exposure to that kitten, with a few tiny spots appearing on their ears that went away quickly with treatment. As with the spread of FeLV, a healthy adult cat is more resistant to infection, but there is always a chance. How far away from you is the kitten? Would you be able to go there and take her to a vet if the foster mom won't cooperate? I really don't understand her attitude as when I have a good potential home for one of my rescues, I will try to walk on water if need be to do everything I can to facilitate the placement. You might try one more time to talk to her and insist that you need to know for sure what is going on with the kitten and be sure it is not something contagious that could spread to your other cats. It is her responsibility to make sure you are adopting a healthy cat, or at least made fully aware of any health problems and just what you are dealing with. You might try telling her if she is not willing to do that you could very easily find another kitten to adopt, but I know I would have a hard time doing that for fear she would say fine, go ahead, out of spite. It all depends on how desperate she is to get the kitten adopted. If it were an older cat I'd be less worried about that, but kittens are much easier to place than older cats. During kitten season, it is almost impossible to place older cats and we sometimes have more people wanting to adopt kittens than we have kittens available. If you go ahead and take the kitten now, do you have a friend or neighbor who could keep her for you for a day or two until you can get a clean bill of health from your own vet?? It's a tough call. I hope you are able to find a way to solve this without taking an undue risk. Sally in San Jose
Cat with liver problem needs feeding tube
Hey listmembers... I'm also on the Holisticat list and a member of that list has sent two e-mails about a friend's cat who is in very serious condition with liver problems including hepatic lipidosis. She is asking for advice about what kind of feeding tube would be best, among other things. I know at least one of you on this list has had to deal with that and that it can be very critical. I hope it will be OK if I forward (hope I can figure out how to do that) her emails to this list and hopefully those of you who are experienced in this regard may be able to offer some helpful info. Sally in San Jose
Fwd: [Holisticat] My friend's cat - more info
Message no. 2 Sally in San Jose ---BeginMessage--- Here is more info on my friend's cat who is ill. Does anyone have any ideas?? Technically this is mainly Saturday night's update...But nonetheless... They ran blood work again, and her electrolytes were down. So they went with a different IV than they were planning to (they were going to do an IV with dextrose). They got her on an IV, pain medicine and antibiotic (injectable) and then waited 3-4 hours after I dropped her off, and gave her some cat food by force feeding. She kept it down. I called at 6:00 this morning and the doctor said she had done well for him all night---he had given her more cat food (he said WD --- not AD --- so not sure who makes one called WD or what it is exactly) and that she kept it down. He said she is holding her own. I asked him to level with me and tell me how bad he thinks she is---he said No, ma'am, she's truly holding her own right now.He said he realizes the docs diagnosed hepatic lipidosis, but that they don't know the CAUSE of it. But for now...she's holding her own. Okay---by definition holding her own would not include assisted feeding (grin) but I appreciate what he's trying to say. She's doing the best she can be doing, all things considered. They won't put a tube in her unless she is throwing up and not keeping food down. So...at 6:30 tomorrow morning I go and pick her up from the e-vet and take her back to her regular vet, who is expecting her at 7:00. Wait until he finds out she's been at ER all weekend. WAIT UNTIL HE HEARS THE CONDITION SHE WAS IN WHEN I PICKED HER UP SATURDAY!I really don't think he has any idea she had worsened since he last saw her on Friday night. To me, she is still not jaundiced; to the e-vet, they thought she may be showing a slight tinge to the ears. Alan and I looked agian; we still don't agree. She's a tortie, and she's always had dirty ears --- her ears still looked normal to both of us. We shaded her eat from the hallogen bulbs, and believe it's her natural coloring that we're always used to. So...the dilemma continues. Remember...why she went in to begin with. She wouldn't eat. Took her in; doc said she had a horrible UTI. Prescribed zennequin. We gave her zennequin for about a week---no change. He admitted her for 3 days; when she got out, she was dragging that back leg and limping.He thought they had hit a nerve when giving a shot (the ER vet said she's never done that, in 9 years of practice---thinks something else is going on). Wouldn't eat. Back she went and was boarded a week while the ultrasound and needle biopsy were done (normal except for a few stray white cells). Her pancreas was also deemed to be fine; no kidney problems either. She was on injectable clavamox for a week. Still no change to her UTI or eating. And here we are. :( I am sure doc will put in a feedback tube tomorrow. So I need to know WHICH FEEDING TUBE to go with. Keep in mind: Hope is an overweight cat. Well...okay, she weighs only about 12 pounds, but she's round and wears it all around her middle.She can't get to her rear to clean herself very well. Her neck area is thick.She has a UTI. With all that in mind...which feeding tube might be the way to go?I know doc may do the nose/throat one at the vet to get stuff into her...but is that the best one if she has to have it in 1-4 WEEKS??? Or should we go with one that goes straight to the stomach? Or is the risk of infection too great for that? Ann -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- FONT COLOR=#99In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/EA3HyD/3MnJAA/79vVAA/Zh0wlB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Holisticat/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---End Message---
OT:DE (Georgetown) SPCA/Where do they all come...
I would love to help, especiallythis kitty, but once again I am in WA. state.He is a beauty! :( Playboy (Russian blue/Chartreux) Pen #20Playboy's owner is getting too old to care for him so brought him in on 2/11. He's a handsome silver grey one year old that would do well with a new loving family who will give him a better name! Twenty cats this week all vying for a good home. The odds are not favorable! Where do they all come from? Cannot imagine how people can just throw away these precious lives. How do they sleep at night? They can be adopted and moved into rescue--adoption fees are $20 (til March 1) for a fixed kitty--what a small price to pay for saving a life when you consider the alternative! Effective March 1, adoption fees will increase to $70 but will include neutering, microchip, FeLV/FIV test, initial shots, worming (if kitten), and a free vet visit--pretty good deal. To find out more call the DE SPCA 302 856 6361. If I can help with transport, I will try. Georgetown, Delaware! Georgetown SPCA Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ inline: YGP42A.tmpinline: aks.jpginline: logobuttonsq.jpg
OT: I'M BACK! Thank you.
Barbara, Terrie M., Tonya, Del, Cherie, Julie, Kerry, Terrie B., Anne, Dale and Peggy. Thank you all so much for your good wishes sending me on my way to Minneapolis for the angiogram and all the warm wishes welcoming me back. I hope I didn't forget anybody. I am feeling much better and less exhausted. :) Still can't pick up over 10 lbs. until next Friday. My daughter lifts my cats so that I can kiss them, etc. :) Sitting on pins and needles here waiting to see whether we are going to be able to get Lovey and Merry tomorrow. Will let everybody know as soon as I know. Thank you all again and my very best to all your fur babies. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.0.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005
Re: OT: Skin Problem
Cherie, In my opinion.. just that... my opinion. I would take this cat straight to the vet for a scraping for ringworm. If it is ringworm it's highly contagious and you would have a mess on your hands treating all your cats. If it's ringworm it's an airborne fungus, so it's very hard to keep it contained. tCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also which one should I use, I attached a list there are so many different varieties of Goldenseal http://www.iherb.com/goldenseal2.html?ovmkt=2HNSTEDPIDQTHR46N88VVFOIH4OVRAW=%22golden%20seal%22OVKEY=golden%20sealOVMTC=standard same with gentian violet http://shop2.chemassociates.com/shopsite/Chemassoc2/PAS-gentianviolet.html?OVRAW=Genetian%20VioletOVKEY=gentian%20violetOVMTC=standard Can you help me with which one is best, how and when to administer, also durationI really appreciate your help and insight. Cherie "Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used Fulvicin, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it. I'd probably stop the Fulvicin and just use some Golden Seal. I've used Gentian Violet recently on a cat (Sparkle)'s ears, had some fungus that looked like ringworm. Did 1 or 2 applications , and it looks much better. May just do some golden seal in water on them at this point.GloriaAt 12:21 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote:I will look into that...and talk to her about Golden Seal, will there be any reaction with what she is using so farit is Fulvicin and Microtek shampoo every 5 days.Thank you for your input"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:For skin problems, I use Golden Seal or Gentian VIolet. My grandmothertold us about gentian violet for ringworm,back in the 50's. I've neverseen it not work. But it's messy, I always have to be careful aboutgetting this purple stuff on so that it doesn't make a mess. Drug storeshere still have it for a few dollars.Golden seal is used on open areas that need to hea. It's great too, notmessy (a little yellow sometimes). I use it on scratches, wounds, mouthulcers, etc. It's also an anti fungal. I get it at the health food store.FYI -GloriaAt 05:08 PM 2/19/2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Hi all, Just a question, the new kitty from Wisconsin, her hair has grown back on her lower outer thigh (it was only broken at the shaft) there has been no redness or any other skin nuancethe woman that she is with is using Microtek (as a percaution) and giving her Fulvicin (again just as a percaution), but now she said when brushed brown flakes come off...This just does not sound like ringworm to me, and suggestions? I really want to pick her up on Tuesday, but for my furr babies and son's sake I am a little leary. Thanks Cherie
Re: OT: Skin Problem
My understanding, maybe I'm wrong, is that fulvicin is an internal med. you use when topicals don't work? t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Cherie:While Fulvicin is not horrendously toxic, any kind of chemical we put on our pets can be potentially harmful, especially to young kittens and pups. I had a cat once that crashed from a spot-on flea product and went into in toxic shock, yet many cats tolerate such products quite well. I had to take her to emergency and she had to have a blood transfusion. My first choice in treating a problem is to go with an herbal or homeopathic remedy and only use drug therapy as a last resort.I have never had to deal with ringworm and while it is a fungal type thing, it usually most affects those whose immune function is not up to snuff. Young kittens and pups who have immature immune systems and are not in the best condition, as is often the case with feral or abandoned kittens (and adults, too) are likely victims. Once it gets started, it can spread quite easily, so you do want to make sure it is not ringworm before you bring the new kitty home unless you have a place to isolate her and are careful with hygiene.I can understand where the kitten's foster mom is coming from...I do rescue and there are lots of times when I have to wing it in treating minor problems, but I only do so with something I have experience treating and I always try a kinder, gentler method to start with. But if that isn't working and a problem is not responding, I will find a way to get the furkid to vet to find out for sure what I am dealing with. I do find it a bit irritating that even after you offered to pay for the treatment that she can't find time to take the kitten to a vet, but then who knows what else and all she has on her plate to deal with.I am not well-versed on dealing with ringworm. I do know that when exposed to a certain kind of light or perhaps a chemical of some sort, because ringworm is a fungus (not a parasite as the name implies) it will, typically "flouresce." But I also know from chatting with listmember Nina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) who recently had a ringworm "scare" with one of her dogs, that sometimes a ringworm infection does not present "typical" symptoms. Have you tried doing a search to find out more about ringworm and how to treat it?I do have another friend who does rescue and she took in two kittens in very poor condition that had ringworm. I don't remember what she treated them with, but they both recovered and the infection did not spread to any of her healthy kittys. Another friend took the third sibling to the two, and she did have two older kittens that seemed to be mildly affected from exposure to that kitten, with a few tiny spots appearing on their ears that went away quickly with treatment. As with the spread of FeLV, a healthy adult cat is more resistant to infection, but there is always a chance.How far away from you is the kitten? Would you be able to go there and take her to a vet if the foster mom won't cooperate? I really don't understand her attitude as when I have a good potential home for one of my rescues, I will try to walk on water if need be to do everything I can to facilitate the placement. You might try one more time to talk to her and insist that you need to know for sure what is going on with the kitten and be sure it is not something contagious that could spread to your other cats. It is her responsibility to make sure you are adopting a healthy cat, or at least made fully aware of any health problems and just what you are dealing with. You might try telling her if she is not willing to do that you could very easily find another kitten to adopt, but I know I would have a hard time doing that for fear she would say fine, go ahead, out of spite. It all depends on how desperate she is to get the kitten adopted. If it were an older cat I'd be less worried about that, but kittens are much easier to place than older cats. During kitten season, it is almost impossible to place older cats and we sometimes have more people wanting to adopt kittens than we have kittens available. If you go ahead and take the kitten now, do you have a friend or neighbor who could keep her for you for a day or two until you can get a clean bill of health from your own vet??It's a tough call. I hope you are able to find a way to solve this without taking an undue risk.Sally in San Jose
OT: Felv+ Cat Transport West Frankfort, IL - Herbster, WI - FILLED!!
Hey Everybody!! Good new! Yippee!!! The legs are filled again! Thank you for everybody's help. Instead of a 248 total miles leg for us, we are doing a 648 total miles to get Lovey and Merry. We will be going tomorrow and meeting one of our drivers in Portage, WI. I guess you can tell we want those cats home with us. We will probably stay the night in a motel and come home Tuesday. I will email everybody when we get home and take care of all of the cats' needs. This was just meant to be. One of our volunteers is a heart transplant recipient as I am and was born in the same month as I just one year apart. There have been many miracles on the way to getting these cats. :) Thank you all so much. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.0.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005
Re: OT: Felv+ Cat Transport West Frankfort, IL - Herbster, WI - FILLED!!
Hello, Brenda, That is good news. Thanks for the update. Laurie At 10:16 PM 2/20/2005, you wrote: Hey Everybody!! Good new! Yippee!!! The legs are filled again! Thank you for everybody's help. Instead of a 248 total miles leg for us, we are doing a 648 total miles to get Lovey and Merry. We will be going tomorrow and meeting one of our drivers in Portage, WI. I guess you can tell we want those cats home with us. We will probably stay the night in a motel and come home Tuesday. I will email everybody when we get home and take care of all of the cats' needs. This was just meant to be. One of our volunteers is a heart transplant recipient as I am and was born in the same month as I just one year apart. There have been many miracles on the way to getting these cats. :) Thank you all so much. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself. - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here.No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.0.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005
