Re: Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
ROFL Toxofelipoopsi rolls! Don't forget the seductive line of Toxofelipoo fragrances! Guarenteed to make you purr...(or drool, as the case may be) On 12/31/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow... so, what's the cure for it in humans anyways? Just curious if I might have had it when I was younger, but took something that killed it since... in which case, I'm going to start eating infected cat poo to re-infect myself! Anybody got an infected cat I can borrow some poo from? LOL! Maybe I can market this on ebay Newest female sexual-dysfunction cure! Studies show that this new technology can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex! Who doesn't want to be more outgoing, friendly, have an increased sexuality? Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is proud to present the female community with Toxofelipoo, sure to turn even the most wrinkled up prune into a SEX KITTEN! Meow! Then in small print at the bottom: Men should not handle Toxofelipoo, as it may lead to the lowering of the IQ, or can in some cases lead to psychological and intellectual disorders Possible side effects in women are disorders of the unborn fetus, pregnant women or women with lowered immune systems should not take Toxofelipoo. In rare cases, death has occurred, if you experience death at any time while taking Toxofelipoo, you should discontinue treatment and seek a mortuary. j/k... LMAO! Phaewryn A common parasite can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex but also make men more stupid, an Australian researcher says. On the other hand, infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls. In short, it can make men behave like alley cats and women behave like sex kittens.
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
Too bad it isn't giardia..I have more than my share of that... On 12/31/06, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROFL Toxofelipoopsi rolls! Don't forget the seductive line of Toxofelipoo fragrances! Guarenteed to make you purr...(or drool, as the case may be) On 12/31/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow... so, what's the cure for it in humans anyways? Just curious if I might have had it when I was younger, but took something that killed it since... in which case, I'm going to start eating infected cat poo to re-infect myself! Anybody got an infected cat I can borrow some poo from? LOL! Maybe I can market this on ebay Newest female sexual-dysfunction cure! Studies show that this new technology can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex! Who doesn't want to be more outgoing, friendly, have an increased sexuality? Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is proud to present the female community with Toxofelipoo, sure to turn even the most wrinkled up prune into a SEX KITTEN! Meow! Then in small print at the bottom: Men should not handle Toxofelipoo, as it may lead to the lowering of the IQ, or can in some cases lead to psychological and intellectual disorders Possible side effects in women are disorders of the unborn fetus, pregnant women or women with lowered immune systems should not take Toxofelipoo. In rare cases, death has occurred, if you experience death at any time while taking Toxofelipoo, you should discontinue treatment and seek a mortuary. j/k... LMAO! Phaewryn A common parasite can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex but also make men more stupid, an Australian researcher says. On the other hand, infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls. In short, it can make men behave like alley cats and women behave like sex kittens. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
On the finger note: Please be extremely careful about any bites. I had a feral bite my little finger and break it (my fault entirely). I had two surgeries and more antibiotics than I ever thought possible. And I was being treated in an ER less than half an hour after the bite. None of the doctors, especially the hand specialists, thought a 4 to 5 pound cat could possibly break a finer bone. They can and the infections can be very costly in time, money, pain I had been bitten before without problems and have been since but I watch a cat bite like you would not believe now. And if it is anywhere near a bone I will have it x-rayed just to be sure. The ER doctors were being very careful. Most would not have bothered to x-ray it. And I was being seen by hand specialists in less than 24 hours of the bite. This is rambling but I know you get the warning. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:10 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Try KFC or some other very fried chicken without the skin. And before it is refrigerated. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:28 AM Subject: Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
I've got 9 litter boxes for you to choose from! LOL. Come over any time--I'll do aything to get out of scooping them! :-) Jasmine Cat Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow... so, what's the cure for it in humans anyways? Just curious if I might have had it when I was younger, but took something that killed it since... in which case, I'm going to start eating infected cat poo to re-infect myself! Anybody got an infected cat I can borrow some poo from? LOL! Maybe I can market this on ebay Newest female sexual-dysfunction cure! Studies show that this new technology can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex! Who doesn't want to be more outgoing, friendly, have an increased sexuality? Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is proud to present the female community with Toxofelipoo, sure to turn even the most wrinkled up prune into a SEX KITTEN! Meow! Then in small print at the bottom: Men should not handle Toxofelipoo, as it may lead to the lowering of the IQ, or can in some cases lead to psychological and intellectual disorders Possible side effects in women are disorders of the unborn fetus, pregnant women or women with lowered immune systems should not take Toxofelipoo. In rare cases, death has occurred, if you experience death at any time while taking Toxofelipoo, you should discontinue treatment and seek a mortuary. j/k... LMAO! Phaewryn A common parasite can increase a women's attractiveness to the opposite sex but also make men more stupid, an Australian researcher says. On the other hand, infected women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, more promiscuous, and are considered more attractive to men compared with non-infected controls. In short, it can make men behave like alley cats and women behave like sex kittens. Barbara Hervey Oberst __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified. Give her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her soothingly. Gloria On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex-guardian had her since 8 weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me. (she's had WAY too many shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the ripoff joint). She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me when she hears it. Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they go in her room, but she pays no mind to them). On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified. Give her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her soothingly. Gloria On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
*She sounds like one we got many years ago... we affectionately called her Shasta McNasty - Now she's just Shasta. She was THE nastiest cat I'd ever encountered! She finally came around and now is a love... but it took a while. I think those difficult ones tend to be extra special when you do finally win their trust... it was with Shasta.* *Leslie =^.^=* On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think she is feral at all. Her ex-guardian had her since 8 weeks of age, per the medical records she gave me. (she's had WAY too many shots, IMHO - the vet we have inside Petsmart here seems to be quite the ripoff joint). She doesn't seem to like my voice, she bares her teeth and hisses at me when she hears it. Seems pretty indifferent to other cats so far (I shoo them out when they go in her room, but she pays no mind to them). On 12/31/06, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep in mind that apparently she's not feral, just terrified. Give her time, and try tasty stuff (like the fried chicken - great idea). Talk to her soothingly. Gloria On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Oh, she also hasn't eaten since she got here. I have tried her regular food (they brought the remains of a bag over), pill pockets (with no pills in them - my cats love them), freeze dried shrimp, yucky Pounce treats, and canned food. Next I am going to try tuna. There's no way I can syringe her, and I can't get her to a vet without trapping her, which usually involves food. So I just have to hope that she eats, I guess. Judging from my cats, maybe I should try white bread - they think that is the best thing going! On 12/31/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can I not touch her ears, I can't get closer than about a foot and a half without being in danger of losing a finger. On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
The Benadryl really works for Patches. But I think (dont remember for sure) the dose is about 1/6 of a pill at a time, or 1/3 of a pill. I don't think it is half a pill, but not sure. I get it compounded for her ears because she is hard to pill and I was having to chase her around and tackle her to do it, while she tried to kill me, and after a few days of it I realized it was probably not so helpful to her anxiety to put her through that twice a day (or to mine!). Michelle In a message dated 12/30/2006 10:56:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the Benadryl can be given daily? It really calms them down? Who would have thought it was so easy... and with something we actually have in the house!! We have another boy Angelo who used to be our alpha male and was overthrown by our 25lb baby Rudy. Now poor Angelo hides all the time and we feel terrible for him. The vet prescribed some medication for him... but it didn't seem to work (we called them his Superman Pills). It's heartbreaking to see him constantly looking for Rudy. We resorted to putting a large bell on Rudy's collar that is very different sounding from all the other cats so Angelo could hear him... but if we could give them something that doesn't make them loopy... yet will give him back a quality of life... that would be great!! Thanks a million Jennifer and Michelle for the information!! I'm giving it a try tonight!! Leslie =^..^=
Re: Marley
That's great to hear! Michelle In a message dated 12/30/2006 10:19:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you so much Nina and all who had sweet Marley,he is back at the sanctuary and feeling much like himself.He looks up with me with those beautiful yellow eyes and just melts my heart.He loves to be held just like a baby.I am going to send Dr. Jen a thank you for making him feel better.I hope everyone hasa wonderful new year,be safe and take care. Sherry
Re: Whitey
Jennifer, Happy to hear Whitey is doing well! I loved his pictures! Sending positive vibes that Tang's adoption happens so dear Whitey has a space. Beth
Re: OT - Help, aggressive cat
Beautiful story, MC - Thanks. Gloria On Dec 31, 2006, at 10:06 AM, TenHouseCats wrote: let me tell you about lacey susan, whom i affectionately refer to as my psychotic, all-4-paw-declawed psychotic calico she was rescued at 4 weeks, and lived with one woman til she was 5 years old. she was front-declawed as a baby, and rear-declawed at around 3, because the new husband was worried about his hardwood floors. (the cat weighed about 8# at her heaviest.) the husband died, and the baby was born--and it was one of those babies who truly was allergic to everything, including milk. so lacey went to live with her grandma, where she spent all her time hiding under the computer desk. she came into the shelter where i volunteered, and i was told that she was most probably going to have to be euthed because she was nuts she'd do the headbonk, nudge, pet-me, pet-me, love-me, hiss, growl, bite, i'm-going-to-rip-off-your-face, headbonk, pet- me, pet-me routine she also looked almost identical to my FirstCalico, who'd gone to the bridge two years previously--and as you know, it's not usual to find two calicos with markings that similar. so, of course, i had to give her a chance. i am NOT reliably a communicator, but some cats DO talk quite clearly to me, and she has always been one. i realized she was terrifed, and acting out of fear and abandonment. i figured, hey, she has no claws, and as long as i stay away from the teeth, what's she gonna do to me, anyway? started out talking to her in her cage, and i promised her that no one would ever hurt her left her a shirt of mine to sleep with, to have my scent. over the following days, i was able to pick her up--the only person who could--and take her into the huge staff bathroom we had. i'd take a book, some toys, and just sit on the floor and leave her be. she'd sniff under the door, come over and nudge me, play with the toys, headbonk, and demand petting in between her i'm going to kill you, human episodes. i'd spend an hour or two with her each day. she'd go ballistic when i went to put her back in the cage, but other than that, she was definitely calming down--for me, at least. there was a volunteer there who was big and fast, with very little awareness of cat signals, and not too surprisingly, she bit him one day, so she went into isolation for ten days--but i continued to work with her, and she continued to respond. she was still nuts, mind you, but less so. the shelter board asked me to write up an evaluation on her so they could decide whether she should be put up for adoption, and one of the members decided that she could tame her, and took her home for two weeks. when she came back, she was worse than when she'd first come into the shelter, poor dear. the board had decided that she could only go to an only cat home, so i would not be able to adopt her. i was broken hearted, and pretty much stayed away from her, because i didn't want to get close to her again. two weeks later, they told me i could take her if i wanted to, because i was the only person she'd ever responded to, and otherwise they'd have to euthanize her. i was ecstatic. i was concerned about how she'd do with the fully-clawed cats in the house--ha! i swear this cat files her teeth down in her spare time, they were in far more danger from her than she ever was from them! it was awful--she was attacking them constantly, as she'd managed to figure out how to reliably get out of the isolation space. she was attacking everything, actually--furniture, stuffed animals, me i had rescue remedy in a carrier solution which i could spray on her and the surroundings, and it seemed to help a bit, but after two weeks, it was rapidly becoming clear that something had to change. i was up on the bed with her, and i was in tears. she was letting me pet her, and i asked her if she really wanted to be on this earth any longer, that she was terrorizing the other cats and drawing way too much of my blood, and that things just could not go on like this. the little motley punk climbed onto my lap, and purred for 45 minutes. and things began to get better from then on. that was seven and a half years ago. she STILL hates other cats, and will still attack stuffed animals when hissed off. she told me, after a bit, that she would NEVER be a pet again, because it hurt too much. that MAYBE, if i kept her as long as her first mom had, she would CONSIDER really trusting me this is a cat who did NOT purr--very occasionally she would practice what she insisted was rhythmic growling, and would stop as soon as she was caught at it. (once we actually had the vet come out, because she'd been purring constantly, and we knew that there was something wrong!) almost five years to the day from when she came to live with me, she started purring more regularly she
OT: food allergic cat
I was also glad to see the Benadryl transdermal cream mentioned by Michelle, I am anxious to hear how it works for Elizabeth's Phelix. Our Scooter is having problems with an itchy head, our vet diagnosed food allergy and gave us an antibiotic powder to dry out the sores in front of his ears. We are faithfully putting the powder on twice a day and have now changed his diet to Natural Balance - Venison Green Pea, without success. He continued to scratch and one sore started creeping uncomfortably close to his eye, so we have resorted to an Elizabethan collar for now. I asked my vet about giving Benadryl orally, and he said it wouldn't do any good until we find the allergen and eliminate it. I will ask him for the transdermal cream on Tuesday. I have to do something for the poor guy, he can't just stay collared while I try one diet after another... Does anyone else out there have suggestions for an allergic cat? Anything homeopathic? Some type of soothing herbal mixture to cleanse the sores with? I am going to try a prescription allergy diet next, if that doesn't work I know of a local vet who offers some alternative therapies... Thanks, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Will Feral, and Max the Parrot. Original Message: Michelle, I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the compounding pharmacist here. elizabeth On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle
Re: OT: food allergic cat
There is some condition called militis, or something, that can cause itchy scabs around the head. Robert McDowell, a really good herbalist in Australia, had something about a treatment for it in his last newsletter. Here is his website: _http://www.herbal-treatments.com.au/_ (http://www.herbal-treatments.com.au/) . He does free online consults for animals. If you go to this link you will see a hyperlink for such consults. I would email him and see what he thinks. If there is something he thinks you can do at home without ordering something from him, he will tell you. If he thinks one of his herbal remedies will help, or that he can make something for him, he will tell you that too. I have found his remedies very helpful for me, my horse Pepsi when she was alive, and my dogs. I have never used one for a cat, but he recently started making things especially for cats and if he had something that seemed applicable to one of mine I would probably try it. Michelle In a message dated 12/31/2006 11:33:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was also glad to see the Benadryl transdermal cream mentioned by Michelle, I am anxious to hear how it works for Elizabeth's Phelix. Our Scooter is having problems with an itchy head, our vet diagnosed food allergy and gave us an antibiotic powder to dry out the sores in front of his ears. We are faithfully putting the powder on twice a day and have now changed his diet to Natural Balance - Venison Green Pea, without success. He continued to scratch and one sore started creeping uncomfortably close to his eye, so we have resorted to an Elizabethan collar for now. I asked my vet about giving Benadryl orally, and he said it wouldn't do any good until we find the allergen and eliminate it. I will ask him for the transdermal cream on Tuesday. I have to do something for the poor guy, he can't just stay collared while I try one diet after another... Does anyone else out there have suggestions for an allergic cat? Anything homeopathic? Some type of soothing herbal mixture to cleanse the sores with? I am going to try a prescription allergy diet next, if that doesn't work I know of a local vet who offers some alternative therapies... Thanks, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Will Feral, and Max the Parrot.
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Thanks Michelle, I'll head to that site next. Poor Scooter is sleeping in my lap now, resting his collared head on my arm. He is such a love, he looked suprised but didn't resist at all when I put it on him. Blue would have attacked, she blows a fit over Revolution drops on her back! Scooter couldn't hold a grudge if he tried... Beth
Re: OT: Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
I'm just wondering if we have a chicken or the egg thing going on here. Perhaps the folks who were tested fit into the categories of behavior before they were infected. It makes sense... Men that are too dumb to wash their hands after cleaning litter boxes and, let's face it, we cat ladies tend to be sexy and attractive to begin with! Nina elizabeth trent wrote: (this explains a lot LOL -- poasted in the Sydney Morning Herald...) *Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy*
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*One of our cats Madison had horrible food allergies. She would projectile vomit... it was terrible. One time she twisted her intestine she was so sick (the twist actually required surgery to correct)! We took her and had allergy testing done... it was not much money considering what we've accomplished since then. When we found out she was allergic to nearly EVERYTHING... they gave us a list by manufacturer of what she could eat. I would suggest doing the allergy test, it's best for your kitty... and in the long run cheaper for you than trying a ton of medication and office visits. Madison needed no medication at all... we couldn't be more pleased with the outcome.* *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/31/06, Gary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also glad to see the Benadryl transdermal cream mentioned by Michelle, I am anxious to hear how it works for Elizabeth's Phelix. Our Scooter is having problems with an itchy head, our vet diagnosed food allergy and gave us an antibiotic powder to dry out the sores in front of his ears. We are faithfully putting the powder on twice a day and have now changed his diet to Natural Balance - Venison Green Pea, without success. He continued to scratch and one sore started creeping uncomfortably close to his eye, so we have resorted to an Elizabethan collar for now. I asked my vet about giving Benadryl orally, and he said it wouldn't do any good until we find the allergen and eliminate it. I will ask him for the transdermal cream on Tuesday. I have to do something for the poor guy, he can't just stay collared while I try one diet after another... Does anyone else out there have suggestions for an allergic cat? Anything homeopathic? Some type of soothing herbal mixture to cleanse the sores with? I am going to try a prescription allergy diet next, if that doesn't work I know of a local vet who offers some alternative therapies... Thanks, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Will Feral, and Max the Parrot. Original Message: Michelle, I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the compounding pharmacist here. elizabeth On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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well, yes, i was positive when i wrote it, but now i can't remember for sure. of course, you know my memory is becoming progressively more randomly accessible as i age. so i'm sitting here trying to visualize what's written on that little index card, and the level of med in the syringe--but which size syringe am i seeing? one of the 1cc, or one of the 3ccs? oh, no, now i'm gonna have to go search through 320GB of hard-drive space to see where the heck i saved it... On 12/31/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .25MG? Are you sure about that MC? That isn't enough to do anything, I don't think. The standard does is 12.5MG. Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah) Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Whitey
Whitey just got his first home bath (they washed his butt once at the vet hospital), I just changed out of my water soaked clothes (he was the third in line, and the first one was not a happy camper). He was amazing. I sat him in the sink, and we had a little talk about how this wasn't going to hurt him, and that it was ok. Then I said now I'm going to turn the water on, just a little, see? that's ok, you're alright and I turned it up slowly, and I got his back feet wet, and reassured him that it's ok with lots of oh you're such a good boy, oh so good! and I began to work up his body, talking the whole time about how easy this is and how good he is, and we added the shampoo, at which point we had a discussion about how this makes him feel like a cat again Now we put some shampoo on, oh yes, isn't that nice, you're such a good boy. You'll feel like a cat again, you want to be a cat, right? Because right now you're all dirty like a dog, you don't want to be like a dog, you want to be a handsome cat, you're going to be so handsome, such a pretty boy! and he sat there for about half the bath, at which point I needed to wash his butt (that he was sitting on), so I said, Ok, now if you just stand up and put your paws up here (on the edge of the sink), we can wash that booty, and make you smell all nice! and at that point, he slumped down and laid down on his side in the sink and let me wash his butt! I thought maybe I'd killed him (heart attack), but his eyes were blinking. He was completely docile, not a single claw came out the entire time, no growls, no howls, nothing. To say I am amazed is putting it lightly. He is an amazing cat. (and now I don't have to worry about his neuter incision getting infected from all the poo) I wish I would have still had the camera for pictures, but I had to return it to my boss. Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah) Whitey's Story: http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 12/24/06 Whitey Pictures: http://ucat.us/Whitey/WhiteyNewPics.html Whitey Models on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Cleos-Catnip-ORGANIC-2-ounces-cat-nip-KITTY-YUMMY_W0QQitemZ140067996154QQihZ004QQ
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*Our regular vet did the test... I will look to see where they sent it to be tested. And yes, it was a simple blood test. It has been a few years ago... but my recollection is that it was under $100 to have done. Madison has been a different cat since then! She is allergic to nearly everything... beef, turkey, flaxseed, you name it... We are convinced that she was abandoned because of her vomiting problem. She is a gorgeous weegie that had been declawed and ultimately found herself at animal control. She was our third cat and we were pretty naive to what was normal and what wasn't... but she is a completely different girl now (much happier, that's for sure!). I would highly recommend getting Phelix tested! I'll look up Madison's test and repost later...* *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/31/06, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you go to get the allergy testing? A blood test, I presume? Was this a vet specialist who did this? Did they only test for food allergies? Sorry so many questions -- I'm just wondering if Phelix should be tested...if maybe we could send off to a lab to have it done since we don't have a vet that does anything like that here. elizabeth On 12/31/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *One of our cats Madison had horrible food allergies. She would projectile vomit... it was terrible. One time she twisted her intestine she was so sick (the twist actually required surgery to correct)! We took her and had allergy testing done... it was not much money considering what we've accomplished since then. When we found out she was allergic to nearly EVERYTHING... they gave us a list by manufacturer of what she could eat. I would suggest doing the allergy test, it's best for your kitty... and in the long run cheaper for you than trying a ton of medication and office visits. Madison needed no medication at all... we couldn't be more pleased with the outcome. * *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/31/06, Gary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also glad to see the Benadryl transdermal cream mentioned by Michelle, I am anxious to hear how it works for Elizabeth's Phelix. Our Scooter is having problems with an itchy head, our vet diagnosed food allergy and gave us an antibiotic powder to dry out the sores in front of his ears. We are faithfully putting the powder on twice a day and have now changed his diet to Natural Balance - Venison Green Pea, without success. He continued to scratch and one sore started creeping uncomfortably close to his eye, so we have resorted to an Elizabethan collar for now. I asked my vet about giving Benadryl orally, and he said it wouldn't do any good until we find the allergen and eliminate it. I will ask him for the transdermal cream on Tuesday. I have to do something for the poor guy, he can't just stay collared while I try one diet after another... Does anyone else out there have suggestions for an allergic cat? Anything homeopathic? Some type of soothing herbal mixture to cleanse the sores with? I am going to try a prescription allergy diet next, if that doesn't work I know of a local vet who offers some alternative therapies... Thanks, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Will Feral, and Max the Parrot. Original Message: Michelle, I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the compounding pharmacist here. elizabeth On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: OT: food allergic cat
Turkey appears to be a major cause of food allergies, especially the highly processed type we tend to feed cats. It caused problems for the Royal Princess Kitty Katt. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Leslie Lawther To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: OT: food allergic cat Our regular vet did the test... I will look to see where they sent it to be tested. And yes, it was a simple blood test. It has been a few years ago... but my recollection is that it was under $100 to have done. Madison has been a different cat since then! She is allergic to nearly everything... beef, turkey, flaxseed, you name it... We are convinced that she was abandoned because of her vomiting problem. She is a gorgeous weegie that had been declawed and ultimately found herself at animal control. She was our third cat and we were pretty naive to what was normal and what wasn't... but she is a completely different girl now (much happier, that's for sure!). I would highly recommend getting Phelix tested! I'll look up Madison's test and repost later... Leslie =^..^= On 12/31/06, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you go to get the allergy testing? A blood test, I presume? Was this a vet specialist who did this? Did they only test for food allergies? Sorry so many questions -- I'm just wondering if Phelix should be tested...if maybe we could send off to a lab to have it done since we don't have a vet that does anything like that here. elizabeth On 12/31/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of our cats Madison had horrible food allergies. She would projectile vomit... it was terrible. One time she twisted her intestine she was so sick (the twist actually required surgery to correct)! We took her and had allergy testing done... it was not much money considering what we've accomplished since then. When we found out she was allergic to nearly EVERYTHING... they gave us a list by manufacturer of what she could eat. I would suggest doing the allergy test, it's best for your kitty... and in the long run cheaper for you than trying a ton of medication and office visits. Madison needed no medication at all... we couldn't be more pleased with the outcome. Leslie =^..^= On 12/31/06, Gary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also glad to see the Benadryl transdermal cream mentioned by Michelle, I am anxious to hear how it works for Elizabeth's Phelix. Our Scooter is having problems with an itchy head, our vet diagnosed food allergy and gave us an antibiotic powder to dry out the sores in front of his ears. We are faithfully putting the powder on twice a day and have now changed his diet to Natural Balance - Venison Green Pea, without success. He continued to scratch and one sore started creeping uncomfortably close to his eye, so we have resorted to an Elizabethan collar for now. I asked my vet about giving Benadryl orally, and he said it wouldn't do any good until we find the allergen and eliminate it. I will ask him for the transdermal cream on Tuesday. I have to do something for the poor guy, he can't just stay collared while I try one diet after another... Does anyone else out there have suggestions for an allergic cat? Anything homeopathic? Some type of soothing herbal mixture to cleanse the sores with? I am going to try a prescription allergy diet next, if that doesn't work I know of a local vet who offers some alternative therapies... Thanks, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Will Feral, and Max the Parrot. Original Message: Michelle, I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the compounding pharmacist here. elizabeth On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable
the more I learn
It seems like the more I learn the less I know. Honestly Tiny's death was totally unexpected. It was probably a blessing for him. I was unaware he was in distress. On my desktop I have a picture of Tiny I took two days before he died. He looked like he had aged quite a bit. Yet he was still eating good and playing. His activity level had not changed much. I expected him to go through slow times. There was nothing to indicate this cat would die when he did. Someone suggested lymphoma as a possibility. I can buy that if there are no symptoms for that. Christmas day he went into the bathroom, where the litter box is located. He just laid down with his paws tucked under him ( I believe some call this the meatloaf position). That is when I picked him up and took him into the living room and sat by him for over an hour. He was quiet. There were no sounds that indicated breathing problems. Earlier that day I found where he had thrown up. It was not bad enough to be concerned. Less than 15 minutes later I heard that awful coughing/choking noise. Less than two minutes he was gone. I said before I thought Tiny would outlive Junior because junior has been the one who has had all the various symptoms. Now I have no idea what I am doing. Maybe it is better that Junior does display symptoms I can recognize. I do know Junior is very much a fighter. The vet tech who cared for him the day I took him to the hospital after he had been hot by a car told me that. I hope this same spirit will keep him going. Like Nina said I will treasure the days I have with him. Tiny taught me you never know.. I wonder if a cat I lost two years ago may have died from this dreaded disease. He wandered off one night after he had thrown up once that day. He also has a infected cat bite I had planned to take him to the vet the next day. Puttyrat was a wonderful playful Siamese looking cat. He came from a colony of 30 cats. He was very inbred and not always so bright. He would make me laugh. I still remember him galloping off down the road to some place he hung out. I managed to get Junior's antibiotic refilled yesterday. It is mainly for his eye. I still have the drops. I now know that Lionel had this same eye infection before he tested positive for FeLV and FIV. He was the special cat who eased my pain after Fluffy died. Some days are better than others. I hope I never have to deal with such an outbreak again. Phaewryn I do not know what you are talking about in the chat room the other night. Nothing that was said offended me. I was just a bit lost and decided to leave. I have never been good in chat rooms because I type so slow. Sally
Re: the more I learn
Sally, It is impossible to know. My friend Yuki called me yesterday to tell me that her cat Tiko, age 13 and negative, died while she was away for 3 days. Her mom had been feeding him and said he was fine, then could not find him the last day. Yuki came home and found him dead. She has no idea what happened. She did not know he was sick. Her cat Sinbad, who had distemper as a kitten and has severe neurological and other problems, is now 15 and the last of her cats left. We always assumed he would be the first to go, not the last. My dog Fern was the only one of our 3 dogs who had any health problems that we knew of, and she had a lot of them, and she outlived the other two. It seems to happen that way a lot. I think that is why people say things like Man makes plans and God laughs. We think we know what is going to happen, but we don't. Tiny may have died from something totally unrelated to FeLV, like a heart problem. My dog Chip seemed healthier than healthy, had just run 4 miles with me two days earlier and was out running around on a walk, and suddenly collapsed, cried out, and was dead. She must have had a latent heart condition. She literally looked and acted like an athlete, and was only 9 years old. we will never know what happened to her. We do the best we can to figure things out while they are happening, and sometimes we can and sometimes we can't. I am very bad at accepting this, but am trying to learn to, because it is the way things are. Michelle
Re: OT: food allergic cat
Thank you, Leslie. I'll ask Dr. Reid about it next week. I'm so glad that Madison is doing well! elizabeth On 12/31/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Our regular vet did the test... I will look to see where they sent it to be tested. And yes, it was a simple blood test. It has been a few years ago... but my recollection is that it was under $100 to have done. Madison has been a different cat since then! She is allergic to nearly everything... beef, turkey, flaxseed, you name it... We are convinced that she was abandoned because of her vomiting problem. She is a gorgeous weegie that had been declawed and ultimately found herself at animal control. She was our third cat and we were pretty naive to what was normal and what wasn't... but she is a completely different girl now (much happier, that's for sure!). I would highly recommend getting Phelix tested! I'll look up Madison's test and repost later... * *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/31/06, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you go to get the allergy testing? A blood test, I presume? Was this a vet specialist who did this? Did they only test for food allergies? Sorry so many questions -- I'm just wondering if Phelix should be tested...if maybe we could send off to a lab to have it done since we don't have a vet that does anything like that here. elizabeth On 12/31/06, Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *One of our cats Madison had horrible food allergies. She would projectile vomit... it was terrible. One time she twisted her intestine she was so sick (the twist actually required surgery to correct)! We took her and had allergy testing done... it was not much money considering what we've accomplished since then. When we found out she was allergic to nearly EVERYTHING... they gave us a list by manufacturer of what she could eat. I would suggest doing the allergy test, it's best for your kitty... and in the long run cheaper for you than trying a ton of medication and office visits. Madison needed no medication at all... we couldn't be more pleased with the outcome. * *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/31/06, Gary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was also glad to see the Benadryl transdermal cream mentioned by Michelle, I am anxious to hear how it works for Elizabeth's Phelix. Our Scooter is having problems with an itchy head, our vet diagnosed food allergy and gave us an antibiotic powder to dry out the sores in front of his ears. We are faithfully putting the powder on twice a day and have now changed his diet to Natural Balance - Venison Green Pea, without success. He continued to scratch and one sore started creeping uncomfortably close to his eye, so we have resorted to an Elizabethan collar for now. I asked my vet about giving Benadryl orally, and he said it wouldn't do any good until we find the allergen and eliminate it. I will ask him for the transdermal cream on Tuesday. I have to do something for the poor guy, he can't just stay collared while I try one diet after another... Does anyone else out there have suggestions for an allergic cat? Anything homeopathic? Some type of soothing herbal mixture to cleanse the sores with? I am going to try a prescription allergy diet next, if that doesn't work I know of a local vet who offers some alternative therapies... Thanks, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, Will Feral, and Max the Parrot. Original Message: Michelle, I'm so glad you mentioned this. My Phelix has the same problem with pulling his hair out from his tummy and back legs...and he does tend to be involved in some sibling rivalry on a regualr basis. I'm going to go see the compounding pharmacist here. elizabeth On 12/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are able to touch her ears, I would ask the vet to prescribe benadryl to be compounded at a compounding pharmacy into transdermal cream to rub inside her ear. My Patches has been on this for years for anxiety. She was prescribed it because she was pulling her fur out of her belly and back legs, and the benadryl stopped that. But she also used to go after the other cats, and the benadryl pretty much stopped that too. If I forget to give it to her, it is noticeable because she goes after Lucy and sometimes even me. With the benadryl she is pretty much fine. It does not seem to make her groggy at all-- she is quite perky and energetic-- but just takes the edge off I guess. Michelle -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a
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Sally, we have all felt this way at some point, where things don't make sense to us and we get hung up on what we missed or waited too long to do or couldn't afford to do. Because we can't all watch our furbabies every single moment, and because money is not an unlimited commodity, and because they're such good hiders when it comes to their illnesses, these things are *going* to happen. God knows I've lost a couple who might have lived longer if I had done something differently or noticed something sooner. Unfortunately, there's no cosmic law that what happens will be fair or make any sense at all. Know that Tiny loved you and had a good life with you and went without prolonged suffering. I know now you're unsure of your treatment of Junior, but it sounds like you're conscientious and there's lots of good advice on this list to guide you. Please don't drag yourself down with wondering, just do your homework and ask questions, questions, questions -- here and at the vet -- and, aside from providing good nutrition and supplements, take things as they come and try not to worry about what hasn't happened yet. Oh, and about chat rooms, yes, they can be daunting but they can be enjoyed even if you're a slow typer. Just don't strike up conversations with everybody at once! ;-) May you have a better year ahead than the one just ended (and this goes to all of us). Diane R.
OT: thank you for all your support for 2006
Hi, everyone, I just wanted to thank you all who gave me supports to get through difficult times this year - this year has been one of the most difficult years for me and my kitties - I lost so many of my kitties for different illness -it's been devastating. Because of people who suppored me from different list group, I learned more every day and gave me strengths and courage to be able to cope with the pains when I felt that I couldn't any more --- these pains will never go away, but I know that I am a little bit stronger every day to live with them. I hope lots of happiness and joys to all of you and your kitties in 2007. Hideyo
Re: thank you for all your support for 2006
Bless you and all that are dear to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: OT: thank you for all your support for 2006 Hi, everyone, I just wanted to thank you all who gave me supports to get through difficult times this year - this year has been one of the most difficult years for me and my kitties - I lost so many of my kitties for different illness -it's been devastating. Because of people who suppored me from different list group, I learned more every day and gave me strengths and courage to be able to cope with the pains when I felt that I couldn't any more --- these pains will never go away, but I know that I am a little bit stronger every day to live with them. I hope lots of happiness and joys to all of you and your kitties in 2007. Hideyo
Re: the more I learn
That's the thing about FELV Sally, it's just unpredictable. I don't think there's anything you should have done differently, and I wouldn't have done anything differently from what you did. It's just hard when you lose a baby. Everyone has those thoughts of self-doubt, the what if's, the Maybe if I had's and the I wonder if I could have's. It's a normal part of the grieving process, I believe. This is the part where you are struggling to come to terms with Tiny's loss, and trying to make sense of it. The problem is, it's a senseless thing, FELV. I know I have a number of could have, should have's in my past, and it's not been easy for me to deal with them. But, try to take solace in the fact that it's normal for you to be asking these questions, and trying to find ways to understand what you have gone through. If there's any lesson FELV teaches the hardest, it's the take each moment and cherish it, because you never know when it will end one that hits the hardest, I believe. Phaewryn Don't Lose Your Pet! Register at AWOLpet.com: http://AWOLPet.com (use referral code: LittleCheetah)
condolences and thanks
Clarissa and Kerry and Sally, I am so sorry to hear about your losses. Pogo and Bandy and Tiny will all be together now along with my sweet Jimi Too Cool. I share your pain and your sorrow. Thank you, Kerry and Tonya and Cindy, for your wonderful notes of condolences. It sure does make the hurt go for a little while, at least, with your caring and understanding words. Hugs for you all, Anne and Simms and Sophie among other furry friends, with Jimi Too Cool in spirit, always, sadly missed so much Anne, I'm so sorry. I always loved his name. I know you are going to miss him so much. But he will be with you now and forever. tonya Dear Anne, I'm so sorry to hear the sad news of your sweet Jimi Too Cool. He couldn't have wished for a better mom, that's for sure. He was one smart cat, picking you out at the bank all those years ago. Thanks for sharing with us in the midst of your tears the story of how you met. I love your description of the antics he entertained you with. He was clearly a cat with a huge personality. I hope all the fun and good memories he's given you will comfort you at this sad and difficult time. I'm glad Sophie is doing well, and Simms too. love and hugs to you and your babes, Anne, Kerry Anne, I am so sorry to hear about your sweet boy Jimi Too Cool. It sounds like he was full of personality. I know it must be so hard for you. It is nice that you can remember all the happiness and laughter he brought into your life. Your in my prayers. Cindy
Re: OT: thank you for all your support for 2006
Hideyo,thank YOU for all you do for us and your fur kids.I hope for a much better year for you and all of us.Bless you Sherry and my 4 beautiful furry boys Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone, I just wanted to thank you all who gave me supports to get through difficult times this year this year has been one of the most difficult years for me and my kitties I lost so many of my kitties for different illness its been devastating. Because of people who suppored me from different list group, I learned more every day and gave me strengths and courage to be able to cope with the pains when I felt that I couldnt any more --- these pains will never go away, but I know that I am a little bit stronger every day to live with them. I hope lots of happiness and joys to all of you and your kitties in 2007. Hideyo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
