Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
I used LTCI when my 11 yo was first diagnosed. I believe it helped bring him back from a very low point (anemia, anorexia, etc). He stayed on it for about a year, then once he was stable I felt it wasn't worth the continued cost, so we stopped. On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Patti > > > > See my response to Debbie, who just posted earlier today, with a similar > question. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Patti B. > *Sent:* January-19-17 4:49 PM > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ?? > > > > Hi, > > I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.had an eye enucleation in Sept. > tested NEG-FELV. But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site not looking > right.I took him to my REGULAR vet. He has now tested POSITIVE-FELV and is > extremely anemic. He is eating well and drinking. Getting laser on eye > surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the LTCI injections for him. Has > anyone here tried them ? > > > > Thanks, > > Patti > > > > "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me > than the fear of appearing ridiculous; > it is indissolubly connected with the fate of men." > > > > - Emile Zola (1840-1902) > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
Hi Patti See my response to Debbie, who just posted earlier today, with a similar question. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Patti B. Sent: January-19-17 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ?? Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.had an eye enucleation in Sept. tested NEG-FELV. But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site not looking right.I took him to my REGULAR vet. He has now tested POSITIVE-FELV and is extremely anemic. He is eating well and drinking. Getting laser on eye surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the LTCI injections for him. Has anyone here tried them ? Thanks, Patti "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me than the fear of appearing ridiculous; it is indissolubly connected with the fate of men." - Emile Zola (1840-1902) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections ??
Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten, Joe.had an eye enucleation in Sept. tested NEG-FELV. But.due to lethargy and the eye removal site not looking right.I took him to my REGULAR vet. He has now tested POSITIVE-FELV and is extremely anemic. He is eating well and drinking. Getting laser on eye surgical site, BUT I would love to to try the LTCI injections for him. Has anyone here tried them ? Thanks, Patti "The fate of animals is of greater importance to me than the fear of appearing ridiculous; it is indissolubly connected with the fate of men." - Emile Zola (1840-1902) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
I agree, was just trying to clarify the differences for her, as they are not for the same things. Sorry if it sounded different. Michelle -Original Message- From: Margo To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 9:16 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hi Michelle, I certainly agree that a diagnosis is needed, and without that you're shooting in the dark. Didn't sound like her current Vet was on board for that. And yes, IR is just touted as a general Immune system booster, not targeted at red or white cells. I was simply giving my experience, or rather, lack there-of. I'm choosing the IR as my "rescue" protocol, at least for now. Margo -Original Message- From: lernermiche...@aol.com Sent: Feb 8, 2014 8:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? I have also used immunoregulin successfully, but for bad upper respiratory infections, for which it worked amazingly. It does not, to my knowledge, stimulate white or red blood cell production, just stimulates general immune response (I think B cells? or T cells?) So I think I would choose which one to use based on what the problem actually is, from blood work etc. Michelle -Original Message- From: Margo To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:21 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hi Daniella, I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year. http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html I have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence that it helped. Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's not true. http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html And it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat. I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain antibiotics and an antiviral on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold. Wishing you both the best, Margo .Original Message----- From: Daniella Leifer Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello, I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you, Daniella ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
Hi Michelle, I certainly agree that a diagnosis is needed, and without that you're shooting in the dark. Didn't sound like her current Vet was on board for that. And yes, IR is just touted as a general Immune system booster, not targeted at red or white cells. I was simply giving my experience, or rather, lack there-of. I'm choosing the IR as my "rescue" protocol, at least for now. Margo -Original Message- From: lernermiche...@aol.com Sent: Feb 8, 2014 8:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? I have also used immunoregulin successfully, but for bad upper respiratory infections, for which it worked amazingly. It does not, to my knowledge, stimulate white or red blood cell production, just stimulates general immune response (I think B cells? or T cells?) So I think I would choose which one to use based on what the problem actually is, from blood work etc.Michelle-Original Message-From: Margo To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:21 amSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?Hi Daniella,I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year.http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.htmlI have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence that it helped.Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's not true.http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.htmlAnd it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat. I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain antibiotics and an antiviral on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold.Wishing you both the best,Margo.Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello,I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you,Daniella___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
I have also used immunoregulin successfully, but for bad upper respiratory infections, for which it worked amazingly. It does not, to my knowledge, stimulate white or red blood cell production, just stimulates general immune response (I think B cells? or T cells?) So I think I would choose which one to use based on what the problem actually is, from blood work etc. Michelle -Original Message- From: Margo To: felvtalk Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:21 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hi Daniella, I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year. http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html I have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence that it helped. Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's not true. http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html And it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat. I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain antibiotics and an antiviral on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold. Wishing you both the best, Margo .Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello, I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you, Daniella ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
Hi Daniella, I'm sorry to hear that your FurKid is declining. What is she currently getting, treatment wise? I have mine on interferon and DMG. For when they start to show symptoms again, I have ImmunoRegulin at my Vets, It's been there almost a year. http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html I have been in contact with Dr. Thomas (she's on another list I frequent) and she feels it can be effective. I can't recall why I didn't choose to try LTCI, but I know there was a reason. Probably that I couldn't find any real evidence that it helped. Although the link on the website says it's only available thru a Vet, that's not true. http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html And it's about half the price. But, I keep it at the Vet's, because it has to be given IV, and that's tough to do by yourself. You might want to check into a second opinion, maybe find a Vet that is willing to be more proactive. Most Vet's don't seem to know much about FeLV, and often advise euthanasia. It may be that they've found caregivers unwilling to treat. I've found that having a Vet who is at least willing to try things is a game-changer. Mine has allowed me to keep certain antibiotics and an antiviral on hand to deal with possible problems quickly, before they can get a hold. Wishing you both the best, Margo .Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer Sent: Feb 7, 2014 6:56 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello,I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you,Daniella ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
Just to drive my point home, my double positive (FeLV+ and FIV+) cat Patches got very lethargic and sick and my local vet, who had just seen one of my other positive cats die of FIP, told me it was probably FIP. But he did blood work and she turned out to be diabetic and was ketotic from it not being treated. I took her to an internist at a hospital and she was hospitalized for 3 days on fluids and insulin, and they got her regulated and back to normal. We tested her urine and gave her a low dose of insulin twice/day for a long time, a couple years I think. She then got hyperthyroidism and needed medication for that too. But she was really fat and happy and energetic. She then eventually got lymphoma, but even then we caught it early and she responded really well to chemo for a while and was really happy still. But then she stopped responding to the chemo and it was the lymphoma that killed her. But she was 9 years old at that point and would have died a lot earlier if we had assumed it was her FeLV every time she got sick and not looked for the actual problem and treated it. Of my other 5 positives, 3 got lymphoma and the other 2 got FIP. That is what killed them. Not the FeLV, though the FeLV is probably why they got lymphoma and FIP. Michelle -Original Message- From: lernermichelle To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 9:26 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Daniella, I have used LTCI, but it's hard to answer your question because you do not say what your cat has been diagnosed with, and honestly it sounds like she has not been diagnosed with anything but FeLV, which is not what usually actually makes them sick. FeLV is just a very suppressed immune system. It can lead to many different diseases, from lymphoma to infections to primary anemia. There are treatments available for all of these things (though when effective usually only for a limited time, unless it's a basic infection that can be cured with antibiotics). But it really depends on getting an actual diagnosis, which means blood work and possibly x-rays or ultrasound depending on the blood work. If your vet is just saying it's the FeLV, I would take her to a different vet, preferably an internist, and find out what is actually wrong. I used LTCI successfully for my FIV+ cat when he had very low white blood cell counts. I gave it once/week for a month and then less frequently and it raised his white blood cell count quite a bit. It apparently can also help primary anemia (red blood cell count low) when it is severe. But it is not going to help cancer (steroids and/or chemo might for a few months though). It might help fight an infection, by raising the white blood cell production, but antibiotics would also be necessary. It is understandable if you do not want to do anything very invasive or expensive if it will not give her more time. But treating an infection is worthwhile if that is what she has. If she has lymphoma, just putting her on high dose of prednisone or dexamethasone, which are steroids, is cheap and does not make them feel bad, it makes them feel good, and can give them weeks or months of feeling relatively ok. If it's dry FIP, there are new medications that have cured some cats (though I don't know if FeLV+), and high doses of steroids can help with quality of life for a while. But you don't want to give steroids if it's an infection. So if the problem is low white blood cell counts and an infection, I would recommend LTCI. Also I would try it if red blood cell anemia is severe and appears to come from the bone marrow shutting down from the virus rather than from cancer or an auto-immune reaction to something. But I would find out what the problem actually is first, and go from there. At least do blood work. Michelle -Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 6:57 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello, I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff lik
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
Daniella, I have used LTCI, but it's hard to answer your question because you do not say what your cat has been diagnosed with, and honestly it sounds like she has not been diagnosed with anything but FeLV, which is not what usually actually makes them sick. FeLV is just a very suppressed immune system. It can lead to many different diseases, from lymphoma to infections to primary anemia. There are treatments available for all of these things (though when effective usually only for a limited time, unless it's a basic infection that can be cured with antibiotics). But it really depends on getting an actual diagnosis, which means blood work and possibly x-rays or ultrasound depending on the blood work. If your vet is just saying it's the FeLV, I would take her to a different vet, preferably an internist, and find out what is actually wrong. I used LTCI successfully for my FIV+ cat when he had very low white blood cell counts. I gave it once/week for a month and then less frequently and it raised his white blood cell count quite a bit. It apparently can also help primary anemia (red blood cell count low) when it is severe. But it is not going to help cancer (steroids and/or chemo might for a few months though). It might help fight an infection, by raising the white blood cell production, but antibiotics would also be necessary. It is understandable if you do not want to do anything very invasive or expensive if it will not give her more time. But treating an infection is worthwhile if that is what she has. If she has lymphoma, just putting her on high dose of prednisone or dexamethasone, which are steroids, is cheap and does not make them feel bad, it makes them feel good, and can give them weeks or months of feeling relatively ok. If it's dry FIP, there are new medications that have cured some cats (though I don't know if FeLV+), and high doses of steroids can help with quality of life for a while. But you don't want to give steroids if it's an infection. So if the problem is low white blood cell counts and an infection, I would recommend LTCI. Also I would try it if red blood cell anemia is severe and appears to come from the bone marrow shutting down from the virus rather than from cancer or an auto-immune reaction to something. But I would find out what the problem actually is first, and go from there. At least do blood work. Michelle -Original Message- From: Daniella Leifer To: felvtalk Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 6:57 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience? Hello, I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you, Daniella ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI treatment experience?
Hello, I'm considering doing this somewhat new lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator, LTCI, treatment for my FeLV kitty who's recently taken a turn for the worse - she's lethargic, decreased appetite, etc. I'm assuming that if I do nothing, she'll die in a few days or weeks (I'm sad because she seemed fine like a week ago, and I only noticed this change in her behavior about 2 days ago). I brought her to a vet today who basically said to give her palliative care until she dies, but then I did some google searching when I got home and found info about LTCI (I didn't even know it existed until literally this afternoon). I'd love to hear about people's experiences with it, and whether you've had success? My kitty was a stray and I'm 99% sure she got it when she was a kitten, or was maybe even born with it. I am not going to do intensive treatments like feeding tubes and stuff like that, that seems too traumatic and I'd rather she have a peaceful exit. But if she can be helped by one little shot per month, that seems do-able. thank you, Daniella___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Hideyo Thank you for sharing that information and Im so sorry about the kittens you lost. I know how devastating it is)-,: and we never ever forget them, do we? Thanks so much Marcia Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:53 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote: > Hi, Thank you for asking.. > > Originally, there was a total of 11 felk kittens we had - and the kitten I > mentioned to you who has been on LTCI, her name is Orphie - she was the > smallest of all - the next smallest kitten, Little Blue unfortunately passed > away, when she was seven weeks old, and Orphie almost died a couple of times > also.. as mentiohned, she just never gained weight though she ate pretty well > - and all of sudden she stopped eating for a few times - and we made sure to > keepn an close eye on them and give her subq fluid, everytime that happens > and every time they have diarreah... > > And we took seven of the larger kitteis to a sanctuary in Iowa.and I kept > three smallest kittens - among those three, her brother Raisenette, and > Wooley passed away due to FIP - I was so devastated.. among 7 kittens who > went to Iowa, two kittens passed away, which also has been devastating --- > now I have Orphie who has been on LTCI for about 6 months or so -- my Gigner > who is 8 years old, who also is felk kitty gets LTCI - but not often.. I used > to give Orphine twice a week - split vials with Wooley and Raisenette as I > could not afford, and also because they were so small to get a whole vial -- > > Now Orphie and Ginger gets a shot every two to three weeks - > > Hideyo > > From: marciabmar...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:39:45 -0600 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI > > Hideyo, > This is great news for your kitten, you, and other Felv + cats that may have > to have that someday. Very encouraging! How long will she be on it? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:12 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote: > > Hi, I have been using LTCI on my felk kitten and she has been doing great! > She was 1lb runt who had struggled to put any weights even when she was 3 to > 4 months old - however, since I have been putting her on LTCI - she has > become so healthy - now she weighs almost 7lb! > > Anyway, I am looking for someone who may want to split the vials with me - I > normally purchase 10 vials - but since she is on LTCI for every 2 to 3 weeks > now. I wanted to split someone to be economical. > 10 vials is $440 to 450 wiht tax plus shipping - please contact me if you are > interested in doing so. > > thank you. > > Hideyo > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Hi, Thank you for asking.. Originally, there was a total of 11 felk kittens we had - and the kitten I mentioned to you who has been on LTCI, her name is Orphie - she was the smallest of all - the next smallest kitten, Little Blue unfortunately passed away, when she was seven weeks old, and Orphie almost died a couple of times also.. as mentiohned, she just never gained weight though she ate pretty well - and all of sudden she stopped eating for a few times - and we made sure to keepn an close eye on them and give her subq fluid, everytime that happens and every time they have diarreah... And we took seven of the larger kitteis to a sanctuary in Iowa.and I kept three smallest kittens - among those three, her brother Raisenette, and Wooley passed away due to FIP - I was so devastated.. among 7 kittens who went to Iowa, two kittens passed away, which also has been devastating --- now I have Orphie who has been on LTCI for about 6 months or so -- my Gigner who is 8 years old, who also is felk kitty gets LTCI - but not often.. I used to give Orphine twice a week - split vials with Wooley and Raisenette as I could not afford, and also because they were so small to get a whole vial -- Now Orphie and Ginger gets a shot every two to three weeks - Hideyo From: marciabmar...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:39:45 -0600 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Hideyo, This is great news for your kitten, you, and other Felv + cats that may have to have that someday. Very encouraging! How long will she be on it? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:12 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote: Hi, I have been using LTCI on my felk kitten and she has been doing great! She was 1lb runt who had struggled to put any weights even when she was 3 to 4 months old - however, since I have been putting her on LTCI - she has become so healthy - now she weighs almost 7lb! Anyway, I am looking for someone who may want to split the vials with me - I normally purchase 10 vials - but since she is on LTCI for every 2 to 3 weeks now. I wanted to split someone to be economical. 10 vials is $440 to 450 wiht tax plus shipping - please contact me if you are interested in doing so. thank you. Hideyo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Hideyo, This is great news for your kitten, you, and other Felv + cats that may have to have that someday. Very encouraging! How long will she be on it? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2012, at 5:12 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO wrote: > Hi, I have been using LTCI on my felk kitten and she has been doing great! > She was 1lb runt who had struggled to put any weights even when she was 3 to > 4 months old - however, since I have been putting her on LTCI - she has > become so healthy - now she weighs almost 7lb! > > Anyway, I am looking for someone who may want to split the vials with me - I > normally purchase 10 vials - but since she is on LTCI for every 2 to 3 weeks > now. I wanted to split someone to be economical. > 10 vials is $440 to 450 wiht tax plus shipping - please contact me if you are > interested in doing so. > > thank you. > > Hideyo > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Hi, I have been using LTCI on my felk kitten and she has been doing great! She was 1lb runt who had struggled to put any weights even when she was 3 to 4 months old - however, since I have been putting her on LTCI - she has become so healthy - now she weighs almost 7lb! Anyway, I am looking for someone who may want to split the vials with me - I normally purchase 10 vials - but since she is on LTCI for every 2 to 3 weeks now. I wanted to split someone to be economical. 10 vials is $440 to 450 wiht tax plus shipping - please contact me if you are interested in doing so. thank you. Hideyo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI - can it be used for 5 week old kittens?
Hi, I have used LTCI on several of my adult kitties - but I wanted to try on some of these 11 felk positive kittens - as a couple of them are very small - Does anyone know if they are safe for 5 to 6 week old kittens? Hideyo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Contact your vet and bring them the information on the site. If you have them order it directly through the company as opposed to a distributor, you will save some money. It was about $45 a shot through T-cyte the last time I ordered it. Your vet can show you how to give the shots at home to save a little more money. Good luck Pam, I'm thinking of you and your cat. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Oh, sorry, where did you get it? On 6/7/2011 4:58 PM, Andy Domek wrote: Hi Pam, LTCI is short for lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator. It is supposed to increase the body's production of t-cells, the killer cells who fight viruses. It ain't cheap, but it worked for us when we needed it last summer and I believe it bought us some good quality time with Aggie. We started it when her WBCs were in decline, and after a brief, expected dip--all levels went into the normal range. I don't know if it will work for everyone, but I sure loved my last year with my Aggie cat that I believe LTCI gave to us. More information is available on this site: http://tcyte.com/ Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Thank you so much, Andy! On 6/7/2011 4:58 PM, Andy Domek wrote: Hi Pam, LTCI is short for lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator. It is supposed to increase the body's production of t-cells, the killer cells who fight viruses. It ain't cheap, but it worked for us when we needed it last summer and I believe it bought us some good quality time with Aggie. We started it when her WBCs were in decline, and after a brief, expected dip--all levels went into the normal range. I don't know if it will work for everyone, but I sure loved my last year with my Aggie cat that I believe LTCI gave to us. More information is available on this site: http://tcyte.com/ Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Hi Pam, LTCI is short for lymphocyte t-cell immune modulator. It is supposed to increase the body's production of t-cells, the killer cells who fight viruses. It ain't cheap, but it worked for us when we needed it last summer and I believe it bought us some good quality time with Aggie. We started it when her WBCs were in decline, and after a brief, expected dip--all levels went into the normal range. I don't know if it will work for everyone, but I sure loved my last year with my Aggie cat that I believe LTCI gave to us. More information is available on this site: http://tcyte.com/ Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!
Beth: "Thank you for the info that it helped with your FeLV baby's stomatitis. I wish I had had that info 8 years ago!" Well, having all of his teeth removed was the real way he got past it. :P What amazes me is that usually by the time cats show symptoms, the virus is really running rampant. But since his oral surgery and the introduction of LTCI, he hasn't had any kind of symptoms at all again, and his bloodwork now is better than it was then. Our vet said she'd never seen anything like it before. I don't know if it's the LTCI or not, for sure, but if it ain't broke... Again, thanks, everyone, for your help! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!
Sean - Thank you for the info that it helped with your FeLV baby's stomatitis. I wish I had had that info 8 years ago! Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Sean T. Collins wrote: From: Sean T. Collins Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 8:48 PM Beth, Sharyl, Andy, thank you so much for your concern and help! And Andy, thank you for the link to tcyte.com—I was unaware of that site. Fortunately, I got good news from the staff at the vet today: Felix's doctor was able to order the medicine using one of the numbers I sniffed up from the Internet! I didn't speak to her directly, so I'm not sure which one worked, but it would have been associated with either AgriLabs or its subdivision ProLabs, which I believe bought out Imulan, the company that used to manufacture the medicine. (Of course, now I have no idea how TCyte factors into all this...) If and when my wife or I speak to her directly, I will find out which number worked and share it here. Thanks again, with all my heart! Sean ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!
Hi Sean,Tcyte (Dr. Beardsley) was the original company who developed the LTCI. The LTCI was very reasonably priced. Tcyte was in the midst of trials. The marketing rights? were sold to Imulan in the midst of the initial trials, who then inflated the price terribly. Imulan then sold (probably the marketing rights) to Agrilabs.I'm glad that Tcyte is once again marketing the LTCI.I also hope Dr. Beardsley further develops this product.El > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:48:59 -0400 > From: nonservia...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you! > > Beth, Sharyl, Andy, thank you so much for your concern and help! And Andy, > thank you for the link to tcyte.com—I was unaware of that site. Fortunately, > I got good news from the staff at the vet today: Felix's doctor was able to > order the medicine using one of the numbers I sniffed up from the Internet! > I didn't speak to her directly, so I'm not sure which one worked, but it > would have been associated with either AgriLabs or its subdivision ProLabs, > which I believe bought out Imulan, the company that used to manufacture the > medicine. (Of course, now I have no idea how TCyte factors into all this...) > If and when my wife or I speak to her directly, I will find out which number > worked and share it here. Thanks again, with all my heart! > > Sean > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!
Beth, Sharyl, Andy, thank you so much for your concern and help! And Andy, thank you for the link to tcyte.com—I was unaware of that site. Fortunately, I got good news from the staff at the vet today: Felix's doctor was able to order the medicine using one of the numbers I sniffed up from the Internet! I didn't speak to her directly, so I'm not sure which one worked, but it would have been associated with either AgriLabs or its subdivision ProLabs, which I believe bought out Imulan, the company that used to manufacture the medicine. (Of course, now I have no idea how TCyte factors into all this...) If and when my wife or I speak to her directly, I will find out which number worked and share it here. Thanks again, with all my heart! Sean ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI answer
Hi Sean, Our vet just ordered LTCI directly from the company, and it was about $100 cheaper for the ten pack then the previous outside distributor. So glad it is working for you! We've used it with our almost 7 year old Aggie (FELV+ since birth) since June of last year, and had some good results in terms of bloodwork improvements. She's gone downhill in the last month or so, as we've struggled to get her seizures under control when I stupidly, dumbly, like an idiot (you get the idea) reduced her anti-seizure medicine more than she could take, and didn't increase it up fast enough so as to create even more problems. But, I'm hopeful because she's still here 7 full months after her first seizure, and whatever is causing them hasn't killed her yet. I will have hope as long as she's still her spunky little self. But I do believe the LTCI helped her a great deal when her WBCs, Neutrophils and Platelets started to decline. Anyhoo, the website for the company is: http://tcyte.com/ The contact info is there, and your vet shouldn't have too much trouble ordering from there. Good luck. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections
oh wow! thanks, Andy, sorry I misunderstood! this sure could be something I could do then for Whimsy. Also, for my FIV boy perhaps. thanks for helping me understand! Shannon --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Andy Domek wrote: From: Andy Domek Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections To: "FELV List" Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 6:53 PM Hi Shannon, It isn't intravenous at all. When I said it wasn't under the skin like like fluids, I just meant that it wasn't done between shoulder blades. It is usually given in her hind flank. Here is the info from the product insert: "Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator is administered by subcutaneous injection of 1 ml upon diagnosis of the presence of FIV or FeLV disease." I know a great many people who give the shot themselves--and it isn't into the veins. Sorry I was so darn confusing! Hopefully the second time is the charm! Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI injections
Hi Shannon, It isn't intravenous at all. When I said it wasn't under the skin like like fluids, I just meant that it wasn't done between shoulder blades. It is usually given in her hind flank. Here is the info from the product insert: "Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator is administered by subcutaneous injection of 1 ml upon diagnosis of the presence of FIV or FeLV disease." I know a great many people who give the shot themselves--and it isn't into the veins. Sorry I was so darn confusing! Hopefully the second time is the charm! Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Injections
Perhaps there are different protocols for different situations, but when we were giving our little ones LTCI, we were directed by our vet (who had spoken with the lab techs with LTCI) to give it sub-q. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Injections hi Andy, great, thanks that does help. Sounds like it's intravenous, aka in the vein, so I would not be permitted/able to do that. Things like the pepcid or sub q fluids are in the skin, so the pet parents are allowed to do these, if they are willing. Guess that crosses Whimsy off the list since taking him to the vet gives him flashbacks! thanks, again, Andy! Aggie is lucky to have you. Shannon --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Andy Domek wrote: From: Andy Domek Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Injections To: "FELV List" Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 5:13 PM Hi, The LTCI injection that Aggie gets are given in her hind leg area. Not up on the medical lingo--but it looks just like a regular vaccination type shot. It is not given intravenously, or under the skin like fluids. Hope this helps. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 5757 (20110103) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Injections
hi Andy, great, thanks that does help. Sounds like it's intravenous, aka in the vein, so I would not be permitted/able to do that. Things like the pepcid or sub q fluids are in the skin, so the pet parents are allowed to do these, if they are willing. Guess that crosses Whimsy off the list since taking him to the vet gives him flashbacks! thanks, again, Andy! Aggie is lucky to have you. Shannon --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Andy Domek wrote: From: Andy Domek Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Injections To: "FELV List" Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 5:13 PM Hi, The LTCI injection that Aggie gets are given in her hind leg area. Not up on the medical lingo--but it looks just like a regular vaccination type shot. It is not given intravenously, or under the skin like fluids. Hope this helps. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Injections
Hi, The LTCI injection that Aggie gets are given in her hind leg area. Not up on the medical lingo--but it looks just like a regular vaccination type shot. It is not given intravenously, or under the skin like fluids. Hope this helps. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI injections
I did search the archives, but couldn't quite find what I was looking for - just wanting to clarify if these injections are intravenous? ie, they aren't intradermal. thanks! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI, and FELV Fevers and Treatments
While Aggie doesn't have symptoms outwardly at present, she has always tested positive on bothe Elisa test and IFA tests from the time she was 3 months old. We've had her tested no less than 7 or 8 time--the most recent being after her cancer surgery in 2009. She's been on LTCI every two weeks since June, so if she's still kicking in March or April of 2011, we might have her retested for the heck of it. I doubt she will have seroconverted, but as you will know from 910 pets and others on this blog--it has apparently happened with others. Not counting on it, but that sure would be nice. If that did happen, I would still consider her as a positive, jut that there isn't enough virus to show up on tests. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI, and FELV Fevers and Treatments
Hi Andy, The Internet is getting smaller and smaller everyday. I have been reading your posts on 910 pets about Aggie. I guess when we get that bad news about our fur babies we head for the web to learn more. I so happy for you and Aggie that she doing well. Our vet has Kelsea on Alpha Interferon 7 days on then 7 day off. As of Tuesday her CBC are great. She also very playful and great appetite. She is gaining a little over a 1pound a month. Which is right on track for a kitten. Her attitude is awesome. All the vet tech at the veterinary hospital we bring her to here in MA love her. I been the Mass Veterinary Hospital so much that Kelsea that the vet and I are on first name basis . Since Aggie is asymptomatic does this meaning she still test postive for FeLV even thou she showing no other signs of FeLV. I have heard of some cats may test negtive after LTCI. Did Aggie FeLV show up in the bone marrow, or just the blood? Part of me wants to put her on LTCI now, but the other parts just wants to wait and see how she does. Like you said this won't continue on forever, but for now--everyday is a party with her. Take care, Sharon On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Andy Domek wrote: > > > Re: :LTCH--I've had reasonable success with LTCI. If you do a search in > the archives, you can read what I've written about my journey with my cat, > Aggie. She's still kicking at 6 and a half years. I've had her on Alpha > Interferon every day of her life, 1 cc every morning (and after she suffered > a seizure of unknown cause, every morning and evening). She's also been on > LTCI every two weeks since her WBC and neutrophils went downhill last > Spring. Her bloodwork has rebounded nicely, and she is currently > asymptomatic, and very playful with a fine appetite and attitude. I know > this won't continue on forever, but for now--every day is a party with her. > > About the interferon, Aggie has been on it every day of her life from the > time we adopted her. She had zero symptoms of anything FELV related until > she developed adenocarcinoma of the salivary gland (cancer) at the age of 5. > We had that removed in the Summer of 09, and as I mentioned above--she's > still here. I think the Interferon may have played a role in keeping her > healthy for so long. It isn't terribly expensive, at any rate. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI, and FELV Fevers and Treatments
Re: :LTCH--I've had reasonable success with LTCI. If you do a search in the archives, you can read what I've written about my journey with my cat, Aggie. She's still kicking at 6 and a half years. I've had her on Alpha Interferon every day of her life, 1 cc every morning (and after she suffered a seizure of unknown cause, every morning and evening). She's also been on LTCI every two weeks since her WBC and neutrophils went downhill last Spring. Her bloodwork has rebounded nicely, and she is currently asymptomatic, and very playful with a fine appetite and attitude. I know this won't continue on forever, but for now--every day is a party with her. About the interferon, Aggie has been on it every day of her life from the time we adopted her. She had zero symptoms of anything FELV related until she developed adenocarcinoma of the salivary gland (cancer) at the age of 5. We had that removed in the Summer of 09, and as I mentioned above--she's still here. I think the Interferon may have played a role in keeping her healthy for so long. It isn't terribly expensive, at any rate. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
Impressive! I'd like to know more. Thanks for posting your info Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Hotmail Junk wrote: > My cat was diagnosed 2 years ago with the same thing. He went on an > aggressive therapy of Interferon and LTCI with good results. He now test > negative, however, with being on Prednisolone, it may just be hiding. My > story is a very long one, with a lot of history! You are welcome to email me > at cstet...@hotmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sharon Fazio wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I want to introduce myself and my very beautiful Ragdoll kitten Kelsea who >> tested positive for FeLV in the bone marrow ( I know it is not a good thing) >> . Kelsea was diagnose with FeLV about 8 weeks ago. Right now she is doing >> wonderful on the treatment plan her vet has her on, which includes >> Interferon, Atopic and a steroid. She was on dimethylgycine to build up her >> red blood cells, she has been off the dimethlgycine for about two weeks now. >> >> >> >> At this point all her all her blood work is normal. She is putting on >> weight; over 2 pounds since her diagnoses. To look at this little one you >> would not even know she was sick. : ) >> >> >> >> I’m hoping someone could let me know anything about LTCI. I’m not thinking >> about change Kelsea’s med now, since she is doing so well. I would just >> like a little more information on LTCI. i.e. what kind of success has it had >> in FeLV. I am also wondering what are the chances the FeLV will go into >> remission if it is in the bone marrow? Kelsea’s vet tell me that the chances >> are very low, but I just need to know if it has happen to anyone out there. >> >> >> >> >> Many Purrr to all, >> >> >> >> Kelsea and Sharon ( Kelsea’s Mom) >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
My cat was diagnosed 2 years ago with the same thing. He went on an aggressive therapy of Interferon and LTCI with good results. He now test negative, however, with being on Prednisolone, it may just be hiding. My story is a very long one, with a lot of history! You are welcome to email me at cstet...@hotmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sharon Fazio wrote: > Hi, > > > > I want to introduce myself and my very beautiful Ragdoll kitten Kelsea who > tested positive for FeLV in the bone marrow ( I know it is not a good thing) > . Kelsea was diagnose with FeLV about 8 weeks ago. Right now she is doing > wonderful on the treatment plan her vet has her on, which includes > Interferon, Atopic and a steroid. She was on dimethylgycine to build up her > red blood cells, she has been off the dimethlgycine for about two weeks now. > > > > At this point all her all her blood work is normal. She is putting on > weight; over 2 pounds since her diagnoses. To look at this little one you > would not even know she was sick. : ) > > > > I’m hoping someone could let me know anything about LTCI. I’m not thinking > about change Kelsea’s med now, since she is doing so well. I would just > like a little more information on LTCI. i.e. what kind of success has it had > in FeLV. I am also wondering what are the chances the FeLV will go into > remission if it is in the bone marrow? Kelsea’s vet tell me that the chances > are very low, but I just need to know if it has happen to anyone out there. > > > > > Many Purrr to all, > > > > Kelsea and Sharon ( Kelsea’s Mom) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI
Hi, I want to introduce myself and my very beautiful Ragdoll kitten Kelsea who tested positive for FeLV in the bone marrow ( I know it is not a good thing) . Kelsea was diagnose with FeLV about 8 weeks ago. Right now she is doing wonderful on the treatment plan her vet has her on, which includes Interferon, Atopic and a steroid. She was on dimethylgycine to build up her red blood cells, she has been off the dimethlgycine for about two weeks now. At this point all her all her blood work is normal. She is putting on weight; over 2 pounds since her diagnoses. To look at this little one you would not even know she was sick. : ) I’m hoping someone could let me know anything about LTCI. I’m not thinking about change Kelsea’s med now, since she is doing so well. I would just like a little more information on LTCI. i.e. what kind of success has it had in FeLV. I am also wondering what are the chances the FeLV will go into remission if it is in the bone marrow? Kelsea’s vet tell me that the chances are very low, but I just need to know if it has happen to anyone out there. Many Purrr to all, Kelsea and Sharon ( Kelsea’s Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI reply for nephew's FELV + kitten
I second that Andy!! It is a wonder drug! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Andy Domek wrote: > > Hi all, > > This is in reply to the poster who asked about anyone with recent successes > with LTCI. My 6 year old FELV + (since birth) cat, Aggie, has been on LTCI > since June and her bloodwork has improved a great deal. For the first time > in her life, her WBC is firmly in the normal range. Prior to this, "low > normal" of 4.2 was the best we had, and that was not often that it was that > high. Usually 3.8 or 4.0 when we would run tests. It was 4.8 as of the last > test a month or two ago (up from 2.0) two months prior. > > She gets a shot every two weeks. We started her when aspects of her > bloodwork started going steadily downhill: neutrophils, WBC, and platelets. > We were going to stretch it out to monthly, but she had a seizure when we > went longer (though now I suspect it might have been the insecticide that was > sprayed outside the house a few days before, --and she likes to sit at the > screen door) and it is two weeks for the forseeable future. No seizures in 3 > months (knock on wood), weight is good, and most recent bloodwork has been > the best of her life. She also gets Alpha interferon daily (since birth--so > for 6 and a half years now), and I mix a little bit of astragalus into her > wet food every night (for the last year--since her surgery to remove an > adenocarcinoma of the salivary gland in July of 2009). > > While I don't think the LTCI is a cure, we did notice an improvement in > bloodwork, and the weight she started to lose came back. I think it is > probably keeping her head above water. I get weird when I talk about her > success--I'm always afraid I'm going to jinx her or something. Stupid, I > know. > > I'm sorry I don't post more--when I try to hit the "reply" button at the > bottom of the "archives" page, it tells me it can't process my request. But > hopefully this answers some of your questions! > > Happy to answer any more you may have. > > Andy > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI reply for nephew's FELV + kitten
Hi all, This is in reply to the poster who asked about anyone with recent successes with LTCI. My 6 year old FELV + (since birth) cat, Aggie, has been on LTCI since June and her bloodwork has improved a great deal. For the first time in her life, her WBC is firmly in the normal range. Prior to this, "low normal" of 4.2 was the best we had, and that was not often that it was that high. Usually 3.8 or 4.0 when we would run tests. It was 4.8 as of the last test a month or two ago (up from 2.0) two months prior. She gets a shot every two weeks. We started her when aspects of her bloodwork started going steadily downhill: neutrophils, WBC, and platelets. We were going to stretch it out to monthly, but she had a seizure when we went longer (though now I suspect it might have been the insecticide that was sprayed outside the house a few days before, --and she likes to sit at the screen door) and it is two weeks for the forseeable future. No seizures in 3 months (knock on wood), weight is good, and most recent bloodwork has been the best of her life. She also gets Alpha interferon daily (since birth--so for 6 and a half years now), and I mix a little bit of astragalus into her wet food every night (for the last year--since her surgery to remove an adenocarcinoma of the salivary gland in July of 2009). While I don't think the LTCI is a cure, we did notice an improvement in bloodwork, and the weight she started to lose came back. I think it is probably keeping her head above water. I get weird when I talk about her success--I'm always afraid I'm going to jinx her or something. Stupid, I know. I'm sorry I don't post more--when I try to hit the "reply" button at the bottom of the "archives" page, it tells me it can't process my request. But hopefully this answers some of your questions! Happy to answer any more you may have. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI etc..Interferon Heidi
We were giving all 6 kittens Interferon once a day 1cc orally. After the 4 brothers passed, we went to 2x a day after reading that it doesn't keep the virus from multiplying the full 24 hours. Plus, our cats have never had a reaction to taking it once a day, they even come in the kitchen and sit when it's time for the little squirt. We are all just scrambling for any hope. I am lucky that our vet really cares for our kitties and supports us in obtaining the LTCI for us and is just a phone call away. Here is the passage from that document on Interferon: -- #1) NEVER give with food. Inteferon breaks down in the stomach with stomach acid. Always squirt it directly into the mouth where it is absorbed in the mouth and throat lining. #2) ALWAYS keep refridgerated. It's useless if it hits room temperature. Keep unused dilutions frozen until needed. It's unknown how long Interferon stays effective in the fridge. Keep unused dilutions frozen until needed. #3) It's USELESS to do on/off dosing. It MUST be given every 24 hours to maintain consistent levels in the bloodstream. (See excerpts below regarding peaks and valleys). It must be kept in the blood at all times. On/Off protocols are worthless because it progresses forward in times of no intervention. It is relatively new, and being used "off-label" which means no studies were done for FDA approval in animals. The use of Interferon for feline viruses was experimental and the results that vets who use it are seeing are being shared and tried by others. Most of the medications used in veterinary practise are "off-label" human medications that have FDA approvals based on human trials and you will not find specific studies done on cats or dogs unless the drug was specifically developed for, and tested in animals for FDA approval. Interferon is Interferon. It acts the same way in cats as it does in humans. The recent understanding that low doses can be as effective as the higher, more toxic doses and a better understanding of diluting and freezing the Interferon to extend its shelf life has meant great strides in it's use in veterinary medicine. The purpose of low dose Interferon in cats is to mimic the same levels that are naturally produced in response to a viral attack. Many people ask what is the connection between human viral treatments and feline, and why should I care? The connection is this. Viruses all work the same way. They may be species specific, but their biochemical mechanisms are the same. Just as we use human Amoxycillin to treat bacterial infections in both humans and cats, so too can human anti-virals work to help reduce viral loads in cats. Interferon works the same way against the Hepatitis C virus in humans. If you read the La Roche link you will see that the primary functions of Interferon are: anti-viral, anti-proliferative and immunomodulatory. It "interferes" with the virus replication. By keeping the level of the virus down in the host's system it allows the cat's own weakened immune system to help suppress symptoms. The lower dose in veterinary practise is not designed to eradicate the virus as it is with Hepatitis C. Cats chronically infected with FIV or Herpes will always have the virus, so the high dosage therapy is of really no use. The idea is to either replace or supplement the levels of natural Interferon the cat is either not producing or not producing enough of. Interferons are natural virus killers. There are definitely some immune boosting benefits to Interferon but it's primary function is to keep the viral load in the system down. WHY IS DAILY DOSING BETTER? Jere Hough Three Times Weekly Is A Terribly Poor Way to Dose Interferon This is a great article and also discusses the development of longer acting pegylated interferons to better manage the peak and valley effects of the current generation of Interferons: “PEAKS AND VALLEYS - Because interferon has a half-life in serum of only about 7 -10 hours. This means it peaks in the body at about 12 hours and is then rapidly metabolized and excreted. At 24 hours after injection it is barely measurable. By 36 hours it is not detectable with current measurements. During this peak the is a rapid, dramatic drop in viral load. As the levels of interferons quickly drop to negligible levels at about 24 hours viral loads start rapidly climbing again. By 48 or especially 72 hours much of the gain in viral reduction has been lost. In other words, viral loads in the body fluctuate directly and rapidly along with levels of interferon in serum, and when plotted on a graph look like a sine wave, or a roller coaster. This graph, along with a description of this phenomena, can be viewed on many websites and texts on the subject, including the http://www.roche-hepc.com/ page. These peaks and valleys have been followed for days in human subjects, and are invariably similar in those who respond to IFN. As inte
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor (for Heidi)
Thank you for the information on the LTC1. What about Interferon?? I rescued a kitten a few weeks ago and he is FelV positive, otherwise healthy and showing no symptoms. I have him isolated in a room away from my other cats and am trying to keep him comfortable. I am trying to find him a home where he can be an only cat and will be kept indoors but I know this will be difficult. I am feeling kind of hopeless as it sounds like many of your sweet cats didn't make it past 1 year. My vet said he could live many years if kept in the right environment but now I am not sure this is true. I appreciate your feedback. I hope I can find a home for Little as he is such a nice boy. If you know of any sites where I can post his pic please et me know as I don't ant to give up yet. Heidi --- On Sat, 8/7/10, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor (for Heidi) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 6:18 PM Wouldn't it help to use PetTinic in food for anemic cats? I use it often, not necessarily for FIV/FeLV positive cats. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor (for Heidi) Heidi-here is a good link that describes the product: http://www.imulan.com/felv-fiv-treatment.html It is from the Imulan Company and it's called LTCI. There has been increased interest in the product for FeLV and FIV cats. I have had 2 cats on it for almost a year. Does it work, I don't know as both of mine are still positive-but I truly believe their health has been improved with this product. We lost Rosie's 4 littermates last year before they reached a year old-Rosie is turning 2 this month!! YAY! The literature said that some cats can fight off the virus and test negative. Rosie is doing great but Murphy has been struggling the past 2-3 weeks with anemia, but is trying hard to rally back. He became so anemic a few weeks ago and I thought we were going to lose him. I think part of it may be due to trying to go 2 months and more between injections. Before that-they were both in the high 30s with HCT, and actually Rosie's last HCT was on 7/24 and it was 46.5. I started the treatments before they became ill, some people begin it when symptoms appear and they find this product out there in web searches. I hope your sweet little baby stays healthy. As you can tell from the postings on this site, many of us have lost our dear fur-children, I don't think it ever gets easier. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor (for Heidi)
Wouldn't it help to use PetTinic in food for anemic cats? I use it often, not necessarily for FIV/FeLV positive cats. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor (for Heidi) Heidi-here is a good link that describes the product: http://www.imulan.com/felv-fiv-treatment.html It is from the Imulan Company and it's called LTCI. There has been increased interest in the product for FeLV and FIV cats. I have had 2 cats on it for almost a year. Does it work, I don't know as both of mine are still positive-but I truly believe their health has been improved with this product. We lost Rosie's 4 littermates last year before they reached a year old-Rosie is turning 2 this month!! YAY! The literature said that some cats can fight off the virus and test negative. Rosie is doing great but Murphy has been struggling the past 2-3 weeks with anemia, but is trying hard to rally back. He became so anemic a few weeks ago and I thought we were going to lose him. I think part of it may be due to trying to go 2 months and more between injections. Before that-they were both in the high 30s with HCT, and actually Rosie's last HCT was on 7/24 and it was 46.5. I started the treatments before they became ill, some people begin it when symptoms appear and they find this product out there in web searches. I hope your sweet little baby stays healthy. As you can tell from the postings on this site, many of us have lost our dear fur-children, I don't think it ever gets easier. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor (for Heidi)
Heidi-here is a good link that describes the product: http://www.imulan.com/felv-fiv-treatment.html It is from the Imulan Company and it's called LTCI. There has been increased interest in the product for FeLV and FIV cats. I have had 2 cats on it for almost a year. Does it work, I don't know as both of mine are still positive-but I truly believe their health has been improved with this product. We lost Rosie's 4 littermates last year before they reached a year old-Rosie is turning 2 this month!! YAY! The literature said that some cats can fight off the virus and test negative. Rosie is doing great but Murphy has been struggling the past 2-3 weeks with anemia, but is trying hard to rally back. He became so anemic a few weeks ago and I thought we were going to lose him. I think part of it may be due to trying to go 2 months and more between injections. Before that-they were both in the high 30s with HCT, and actually Rosie's last HCT was on 7/24 and it was 46.5. I started the treatments before they became ill, some people begin it when symptoms appear and they find this product out there in web searches. I hope your sweet little baby stays healthy. As you can tell from the postings on this site, many of us have lost our dear fur-children, I don't think it ever gets easier. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor
hello, I have a kitten that is FElV positive. Can you tell me what LTCI is? Is this something I should be giving the kitten to help keep healthy? Thanks,Heidi Werber --- On Sat, 8/7/10, Sara Kasteleyn wrote: From: Sara Kasteleyn Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 7, 2010, 11:16 AM Hi Alice, I've not heard anything about this,and we have used it for our little one. We have one dose left, so are on the verge of asking our vet to re-order. Will pass along what we find. Thanks for the heads-up. Sara --Original Mail-- From: "Alice Flowers" To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:18:36 -0700 PDT Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor I am hearing that after Sept or so, the new distributors of the LTCI will only sell 10 packs-this is going to make it very difficult for most of us to afford-plus the price went up. I think they are wanting the veterinarians to carry the product in stock-but I am thinking most won't - Like my vet...I researched and found the product and begged them to order it for me. Has anyone else heard anything about this?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor
Hi Alice, I've not heard anything about this,and we have used it for our little one. We have one dose left, so are on the verge of asking our vet to re-order. Will pass along what we find. Thanks for the heads-up. Sara --Original Mail-- From: "Alice Flowers" To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:18:36 -0700 PDT Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor I am hearing that after Sept or so, the new distributors of the LTCI will only sell 10 packs-this is going to make it very difficult for most of us to afford-plus the price went up. I think they are wanting the veterinarians to carry the product in stock-but I am thinking most won't - Like my vet...I researched and found the product and begged them to order it for me. Has anyone else heard anything about this?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI Rumor
I am hearing that after Sept or so, the new distributors of the LTCI will only sell 10 packs-this is going to make it very difficult for most of us to afford-plus the price went up. I think they are wanting the veterinarians to carry the product in stock-but I am thinking most won't - Like my vet...I researched and found the product and begged them to order it for me. Has anyone else heard anything about this?? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Veterinary Expert
I just sent her an email asking her. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Veterinary Expert I would love to know the answer to your question, too Jason. I am using LTCI now and have a vet who is willing to come to our house to give our cat the shot, but has no experience with LTCI. I cannot find one in our area who has any experience with it. I know that Laurie's vet has used it and she may be available for a consult. I think she has a practice in the mid west. Hopefully she will see this. Jane On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Jason Michael Canon wrote: > Does anyone know of a vet that has solid experience with using LTCI? > I'm interested in obtaining a consult. > > Thanks, > Jason > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Veterinary Expert
I would love to know the answer to your question, too Jason. I am using LTCI now and have a vet who is willing to come to our house to give our cat the shot, but has no experience with LTCI. I cannot find one in our area who has any experience with it. I know that Laurie's vet has used it and she may be available for a consult. I think she has a practice in the mid west. Hopefully she will see this. Jane On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Jason Michael Canon wrote: Does anyone know of a vet that has solid experience with using LTCI? I'm interested in obtaining a consult. Thanks, Jason ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI Veterinary Expert
Does anyone know of a vet that has solid experience with using LTCI? I'm interested in obtaining a consult. Thanks, Jason ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
unless things have changed in the recent past, the approval from the Dept of Ag is CONDITIONAL. and it's THEIR regulations that require it be called a AID. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
I just read about LTCI in the November issue of Cat Fancy, but they didn't say much. I was hoping the article would be longer and more detailed. Lorrie On 09-23, mitchell wrote: > Approved by the United States Department of Agriculture > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM, MaryChristine > wrote: > > > approved by whom, i keep asking. and it's not a treatment, it's a > > "treatment > > aid." that's all they're allowed by law to call it. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM, mitchell wrote: > > > > > I don't know much about this product, but I do know that there is an > > > approved treatment for FeLV. That is LTCI. It can be obtained easily. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy
I too am waiting for my copy Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2009, at 4:19 PM, "Laurieskatz" wrote: I just got my copy today. Have not read it. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank & Sue Koren Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy Hello everyone, Has anybody else seen the article in this months Cat Fancy about Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator? Although the article does not go into any detail or get at all scientific, it seems that it might give this stuff some credibility. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy
what was in there previously was a press release, NOT an actual article. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Laurieskatz wrote: > I just got my copy today. Have not read it. > L > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank & Sue > Koren > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:06 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy > > Hello everyone, > Has anybody else seen the article in this months Cat Fancy about Lymphocyte > T-Cell Immunomodulator? Although the article does not go into any detail > or > get at all scientific, it seems that it might give this stuff some > credibility. > Sue > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy
I just got my copy today. Have not read it. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank & Sue Koren Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy Hello everyone, Has anybody else seen the article in this months Cat Fancy about Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator? Although the article does not go into any detail or get at all scientific, it seems that it might give this stuff some credibility. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy
Hello everyone, Has anybody else seen the article in this months Cat Fancy about Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator? Although the article does not go into any detail or get at all scientific, it seems that it might give this stuff some credibility. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan
I've used the Wei Qi booster too, still have some. Glad you reminded me. Gloria On Jan 12, 2009, at 4:31 PM, wrote: Jenny, I am sorry to hear about your situation. I had a very ill felv cat that weighted less than 4 pounds when I got her and was severely anemic. An alternative vet that I saw suggested something for the anemia - anem-o-aid I belive, I will look when I get home. Initially, she received a blood transfusion and was on steroids/ antibiotics for a time and I force fed her for two weeks. Eventually, she improved and gained 2 lbs. Unfortunately, she became severely anemic again and stoutly refused to eat. She quickly went downhill and I had to let her go at that point. Anyway, it is helpful to know if she is having a hemolytic anemia as this can sometimes be stopped with steroids and specific antibiotics. You can generally diagnose this on smear of blood under the microscope. The holistic vet also prescribed Wei Qi booster to boost the immune system. I have also heard of something called Acemannan (Carrisyn) and am currently working on finding more information about it. I will keep you informed of whatever I can. Good luck and God bless. Jenny "Rosenfeldt wrote: Jennifer, have you consulted a vet who knows more about FeLV? That could be crucial in Mr. Darcy's treatment. You can just call vets in your local area and ask if they are knowledgeable about FeLV, and if so make an appointment with one of them and get him checked out. If nothing else, you'd be more sure about where Mr. Darcy stands. Good luck to you and "eat something!" vibes to Mr. Darcy. I love his name! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Dykhouse Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan Hello all, I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is in the last stages of his disease as best as the vet and I can tell. He was symptom free (we didn't know that he was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago when he snuck outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv + and it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was symptomatic and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one of the later stages of his leukemia. We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him slightly and he's now on it everyday. We also have been giving him Science Diet A/D to help give him calories and bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7 lbs 5 oz, which is not good. He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to assist feed him at night. Anything we can do to help him would be great. Is there a website with information on this LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet isn't up on everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. Thanks so much! Jennifer and Mr. Darcy Message: 4Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14 -0600From: Lisapony Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI- ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id: <04512eed.21a5.4b67.8c63.fdd0fd3a2...@aol.com>Content-Type: TEXT/ plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. Lisa Cannata319 Maplewood DriveAntioch, IL 60002847-740-9075 voice847-589-8574 fax-- Message: 5Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:31:09 -0500From: "Sally Davis" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage- ID:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d 750ff92...@mail.gmail.comcontent-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I do not have experience because my cat died before this became readilyavailable :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on another group.Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally involved in the studiesfor this immune booster. He continues to use it on some of FELV positivecats Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter,Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit myMessage board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed 3 _ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan
Jennifer, I can't help with the Interferon but can with the assist feeding. There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding that has some great files on assist feeding. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ Just about any canned food can be used. I blenderize the food with a little liquid and syringe feed the mixture. I add the supplements to the mixture to avoid the hassles of pilling. For short term assist feeding meat baby food with no onions or garlic is easy to assist feed. Many kitties will lick it off a coated baby spoon or it is easy to syringe feed. Kitten canned food is higher in calories than the A/D. You want to get the biggest bang per oz with whatever food you feed. Sharyl --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Jennifer Dykhouse wrote: > From: Jennifer Dykhouse > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:05 PM > Hello all, > > I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is > in the last stages of his disease as best as the vet and I > can tell. He was symptom free (we didn't know that he > was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago when he snuck > outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv+ and > it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was > symptomatic and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one > of the later stages of his leukemia. > > We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him > slightly and he's now on it everyday. We also have been > giving him Science Diet A/D to help give him calories and > bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7 lbs 5 oz, > which is not good. > > He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to > assist feed him at night. Anything we can do to help him > would be great. Is there a website with information on this > LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet isn't up on > everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. > > Thanks so much! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan
Jenny, I am sorry to hear about your situation. I had a very ill felv cat that weighted less than 4 pounds when I got her and was severely anemic. An alternative vet that I saw suggested something for the anemia - anem-o-aid I belive, I will look when I get home. Initially, she received a blood transfusion and was on steroids/antibiotics for a time and I force fed her for two weeks. Eventually, she improved and gained 2 lbs. Unfortunately, she became severely anemic again and stoutly refused to eat. She quickly went downhill and I had to let her go at that point. Anyway, it is helpful to know if she is having a hemolytic anemia as this can sometimes be stopped with steroids and specific antibiotics. You can generally diagnose this on smear of blood under the microscope. The holistic vet also prescribed Wei Qi booster to boost the immune system. I have also heard of something called Acemannan (Carrisyn) and am currently working on finding more information about it. I will keep you informed of whatever I can. Good luck and God bless. Jenny "Rosenfeldt wrote: > Jennifer, have you consulted a vet who knows more about FeLV? That > could be crucial in Mr. Darcy's treatment. You can just call vets in > your local area and ask if they are knowledgeable about FeLV, and if so > make an appointment with one of them and get him checked out. If > nothing else, you'd be more sure about where Mr. Darcy stands. Good > luck to you and "eat something!" vibes to Mr. Darcy. I love his name! > > Diane R. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer > Dykhouse > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:06 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan > > > Hello all, > > I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is in the last > stages of his disease as best as the vet and I can tell. He was symptom > free (we didn't know that he was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago > when he snuck outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv+ and > it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was symptomatic > and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one of the later stages of > his leukemia. > > We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him slightly and he's > now on it everyday. We also have been giving him Science Diet A/D to > help give him calories and bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7 > lbs 5 oz, which is not good. > > He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to assist feed him at > night. Anything we can do to help him would be great. Is there a > website with information on this LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet > isn't up on everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. > > Thanks so much! > > Jennifer and Mr. Darcy Message: 4Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14 > -0600From: Lisapony Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: > felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id: > <04512eed.21a5.4b67.8c63.fdd0fd3a2...@aol.com>Content-Type: TEXT/plain; > charset=us-ascii > Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat > Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. Lisa > Cannata319 Maplewood DriveAntioch, IL 60002847-740-9075 > voice847-589-8574 fax-- Message: 5Date: Mon, > 12 Jan 2009 07:31:09 -0500From: "Sally Davis" > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: > felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d > 750ff92...@mail.gmail.comcontent-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I do > not have experience because my cat died before this became > readilyavailable :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on > another group.Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally > involved in the studiesfor this immune booster. He continues to use it > on some of FELV positivecats > Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate > angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, > Pewter,Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please > Visit myMessage board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. > http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed > 3 > _ > Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > This electronic mail tran
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan
Jennifer, have you consulted a vet who knows more about FeLV? That could be crucial in Mr. Darcy's treatment. You can just call vets in your local area and ask if they are knowledgeable about FeLV, and if so make an appointment with one of them and get him checked out. If nothing else, you'd be more sure about where Mr. Darcy stands. Good luck to you and "eat something!" vibes to Mr. Darcy. I love his name! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Dykhouse Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan Hello all, I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is in the last stages of his disease as best as the vet and I can tell. He was symptom free (we didn't know that he was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago when he snuck outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv+ and it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was symptomatic and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one of the later stages of his leukemia. We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him slightly and he's now on it everyday. We also have been giving him Science Diet A/D to help give him calories and bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7 lbs 5 oz, which is not good. He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to assist feed him at night. Anything we can do to help him would be great. Is there a website with information on this LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet isn't up on everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. Thanks so much! Jennifer and Mr. Darcy Message: 4Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14 -0600From: Lisapony Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id: <04512eed.21a5.4b67.8c63.fdd0fd3a2...@aol.com>Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. Lisa Cannata319 Maplewood DriveAntioch, IL 60002847-740-9075 voice847-589-8574 fax-- Message: 5Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:31:09 -0500From: "Sally Davis" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d 750ff92...@mail.gmail.comcontent-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I do not have experience because my cat died before this became readilyavailable :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on another group.Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally involved in the studiesfor this immune booster. He continues to use it on some of FELV positivecats Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter,Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit myMessage board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed 3 _ Windows Live(tm): Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI by Imulan
Hello all, I have a three year old cat, Mr. Darcy that is Felv+ and is in the last stages of his disease as best as the vet and I can tell. He was symptom free (we didn't know that he was Felv+until then) until 6 months ago when he snuck outside and contracted an URI. He was tested for Felv+ and it was positive. After we got rid of the URI he still was symptomatic and anemic, so we knew he was definetly in one of the later stages of his leukemia. We've had him on Interferon, which seems to help him slightly and he's now on it everyday. We also have been giving him Science Diet A/D to help give him calories and bring some weight back on him, he's only at 7 lbs 5 oz, which is not good. He's stopped eating the A/D so we are starting to assist feed him at night. Anything we can do to help him would be great. Is there a website with information on this LTCI and where can you get it. Our vet isn't up on everything leukemia/Felv, so she doesn't know much. Thanks so much! Jennifer and Mr. Darcy Message: 4Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14 -0600From: Lisapony Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id: <04512eed.21a5.4b67.8c63.fdd0fd3a2...@aol.com>Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. Lisa Cannata319 Maplewood DriveAntioch, IL 60002847-740-9075 voice847-589-8574 fax-- Message: 5Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:31:09 -0500From: "Sally Davis" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-ImulanTo: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgmessage-id:de4e9a820901120431l12499b62i55b69d750ff92...@mail.gmail.comcontent-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I do not have experience because my cat died before this became readilyavailable :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on another group.Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally involved in the studiesfor this immune booster. He continues to use it on some of FELV positivecats Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter,Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit myMessage board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-Imulan
Yes, currently my Gray Kitty receives those injections weekly and it does help boost their immune system. > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:56:14 -0600> From: lisap...@aol.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI-Imulan> > Hi,> > Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. > > Lisa Cannata> 319 Maplewood Drive> Antioch, IL 60002> 847-740-9075 voice> 847-589-8574 fax> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI-Imulan
I do not have experience because my cat died before this became readily available :-(.. However reports are good from a Vet's wife on another group. Her husband is a cat specailist and was originally involved in the studies for this immune booster. He continues to use it on some of FELV positive cats -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] LTCI-Imulan
Hi, Has anyone tried LTCI by Imulan? Four days ago I started my cat Carl on this new med and was wondering what others experienced. Lisa Cannata 319 Maplewood Drive Antioch, IL 60002 847-740-9075 voice 847-589-8574 fax ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
That is so very true! Thanks :o)> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:37:58 -0600> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response> > Enjoy the time you have. No one, not person or cat or mouse, is > guaranteed a minute of life. If we spend all our time wondering when > we or our friends may leave, we will deprive ourselves of their > happiness and wisdom and we will prevent them from loving us and > teaching us. We all die some times and we all die from something. > The idea is to enjoy all of life as much as possible and not to fear > death. I know. It is almost impossible but I have learned from Mai > Mai PG, the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, and my wonderful Dixie Louise. > Please try to learn and love without fear.> On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Christy Buchin wrote:> > >> > Amber,> > Thank you for your kind words. I totally understand about the "what > > if". My husband and I are always saying, what if we would have > > tested him when he was a kitten and got to this sooner. The Vet did > > not think we needed to test the kittens because their Mom tested > > negative.> > I am so sorry you lost Parker! I know I will be experiencing that > > in the near future and it frightens me so! I have taken a lot of > > pictures of Gray Kitty. I keep them in a photo album on my myspace > > page. I am writing a blog on there about him as well. I know the > > pain of losing Parker is deep. He knows he was very loved and taken > > care of! :o)> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:41:45 +> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] > > LTCI Response> > > Christy,> I'm so sorry to hear about your little > > Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier this month, I found out > > about> LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have known about it > > sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him.> He was > > severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what > > you are indicating, it may get to a point> with the illness where > > it's too late, huh? > > I wish you the best with the precious time > > you have left with your little one. It certainly makes you > > appreciate the> time you have together, I'm sure. I recently made a > > picture book (using my laptop & digital photos) in memoriam to > > Parker.> It was my special way of honoring him and whenever I look > > at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that he's gone,> but > > happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't know if you have > > taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it> may help later to > > have all of those memories in picture form to look back and > > reminisce. Take care. > > *Hugs*> Amber> > > Amber,> We have been > > using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on > > September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone > > marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We > > have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray > > pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had > > 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one > > that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. > > Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so > > puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this > > disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. Amber,> > > > > > _> > > Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows > > Mobile®. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > > ___> Felvtalk mailing > > list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > _> > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to > > suspicious email.> > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008> > ___> > Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> >> >> > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas> > > > > > > > > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
Kelly, it is the chat that makes it worth while if you have a positive cat , even if just curious, can learn a lot. dorlis Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > How do i get off of this list? i thought i signed up for a newsleltter, not > all the online chat conversations. :) > > Any help would be appreciated. :) > > Thanks, > Kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * "Obama winspresidency in a landslide" (front page of Toledo Blade). > * "Hope won."-oprah > > * "truth is beautiful, without doubt; but so are lies." -ralph waldo emerson > > > --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Christy Buchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Christy Buchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response > To: "Feline Leukemia Website" > Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 1:59 PM > > Amber, > Thank you for your kind words. I totally understand about the "what > if". My husband and I are always saying, what if we would have tested him > when he was a kitten and got to this sooner. The Vet did not think we needed > to > test the kittens because their Mom tested negative. > I am so sorry you lost Parker! I know I will be experiencing that in the near > future and it frightens me so! I have taken a lot of pictures of Gray Kitty. > I > keep them in a photo album on my myspace page. I am writing a blog on there > about him as well. I know the pain of losing Parker is deep. He knows he was > very loved and taken care of! :o)> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:41:45 +> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response> > > Christy,> I'm so > sorry to hear about your little Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier > this month, I found out about> LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have > known about it sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him.> > He was severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what you > are indicating, it may get to a point> with the illness where it's too > late, huh? > > I wish you the best with the precious time you have left > with your little one. It certainly makes you appreciate the> time you have > together, I'm sure. I recently made a picture book (using my laptop & > digital photos) in memoriam to Parker.> It was my special way of honoring him > and whenever I look at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that > he's gone,> but happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't > know if you have taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it> may help > later to have all of those memories in picture form to look back and > reminisce. > Take care. > > *Hugs*> Amber> > > Amber,> We have been > using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on > September 6 > of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow. At this point we > are not sure if anything will help him. We have not run into another situation > such as ours. We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, which tested > negative > for the FelV. She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the > only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. > Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so puzzled, > shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this disease. We know > our > time with him is so very precious. Amber,> > > > > _> Get more > done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > ___> Felvtalk mailing list> > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _ > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
Enjoy the time you have. No one, not person or cat or mouse, is guaranteed a minute of life. If we spend all our time wondering when we or our friends may leave, we will deprive ourselves of their happiness and wisdom and we will prevent them from loving us and teaching us. We all die some times and we all die from something. The idea is to enjoy all of life as much as possible and not to fear death. I know. It is almost impossible but I have learned from Mai Mai PG, the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, and my wonderful Dixie Louise. Please try to learn and love without fear. On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Christy Buchin wrote: > > Amber, > Thank you for your kind words. I totally understand about the "what > if". My husband and I are always saying, what if we would have > tested him when he was a kitten and got to this sooner. The Vet did > not think we needed to test the kittens because their Mom tested > negative. > I am so sorry you lost Parker! I know I will be experiencing that > in the near future and it frightens me so! I have taken a lot of > pictures of Gray Kitty. I keep them in a photo album on my myspace > page. I am writing a blog on there about him as well. I know the > pain of losing Parker is deep. He knows he was very loved and taken > care of! :o)> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:41:45 +> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] > LTCI Response> > > Christy,> I'm so sorry to hear about your little > Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier this month, I found out > about> LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have known about it > sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him.> He was > severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what > you are indicating, it may get to a point> with the illness where > it's too late, huh? > > I wish you the best with the precious time > you have left with your little one. It certainly makes you > appreciate the> time you have together, I'm sure. I recently made a > picture book (using my laptop & digital photos) in memoriam to > Parker.> It was my special way of honoring him and whenever I look > at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that he's gone,> but > happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't know if you have > taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it> may help later to > have all of those memories in picture form to look back and > reminisce. Take care. > > *Hugs*> Amber> > > Amber,> We have been > using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on > September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone > marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We > have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray > pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had > 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one > that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. > Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so > puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this > disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. Amber,> > > > > _> > Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows > Mobile®. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > ___> Felvtalk mailing > list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _ > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to > suspicious email. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
Hi, How do i get off of this list? i thought i signed up for a newsleltter, not all the online chat conversations. :) Any help would be appreciated. :) Thanks, Kelly * "Obama winspresidency in a landslide" (front page of Toledo Blade). * "Hope won."-oprah * "truth is beautiful, without doubt; but so are lies." -ralph waldo emerson --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Christy Buchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Christy Buchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response To: "Feline Leukemia Website" Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 1:59 PM Amber, Thank you for your kind words. I totally understand about the "what if". My husband and I are always saying, what if we would have tested him when he was a kitten and got to this sooner. The Vet did not think we needed to test the kittens because their Mom tested negative. I am so sorry you lost Parker! I know I will be experiencing that in the near future and it frightens me so! I have taken a lot of pictures of Gray Kitty. I keep them in a photo album on my myspace page. I am writing a blog on there about him as well. I know the pain of losing Parker is deep. He knows he was very loved and taken care of! :o)> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:41:45 +> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response> > > Christy,> I'm so sorry to hear about your little Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier this month, I found out about> LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have known about it sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him.> He was severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what you are indicating, it may get to a point> with the illness where it's too late, huh? > > I wish you the best with the precious time you have left with your little one. It certainly makes you appreciate the> time you have together, I'm sure. I recently made a picture book (using my laptop & digital photos) in memoriam to Parker.> It was my special way of honoring him and whenever I look at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that he's gone,> but happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't know if you have taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it> may help later to have all of those memories in picture form to look back and reminisce. Take care. > > *Hugs*> Amber> > > Amber,> We have been using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. Amber,> > > > _> Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
Amber, Thank you for your kind words. I totally understand about the "what if". My husband and I are always saying, what if we would have tested him when he was a kitten and got to this sooner. The Vet did not think we needed to test the kittens because their Mom tested negative. I am so sorry you lost Parker! I know I will be experiencing that in the near future and it frightens me so! I have taken a lot of pictures of Gray Kitty. I keep them in a photo album on my myspace page. I am writing a blog on there about him as well. I know the pain of losing Parker is deep. He knows he was very loved and taken care of! :o)> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:41:45 +0000> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response> > > Christy,> I'm so sorry to hear about your little Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier this month, I found out about> LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have known about it sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him.> He was severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what you are indicating, it may get to a point> with the illness where it's too late, huh? > > I wish you the best with the precious time you have left with your little one. It certainly makes you appreciate the> time you have together, I'm sure. I recently made a picture book (using my laptop & digital photos) in memoriam to Parker.> It was my special way of honoring him and whenever I look at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that he's gone,> but happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't know if you have taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it> may help later to have all of those memories in picture form to look back and reminisce. Take care. > > *Hugs*> Amber> > > Amber,> We have been using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. Amber,> > > > _> Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
Hi Janalin Thanks again for the post. Is LTCI a med that has to be injected into the cat? --- On Sat, 11/29/08, Amber Gilewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Amber Gilewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:41 AM Christy, I'm so sorry to hear about your little Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier this month, I found out about LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have known about it sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him. He was severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what you are indicating, it may get to a point with the illness where it's too late, huh? I wish you the best with the precious time you have left with your little one. It certainly makes you appreciate the time you have together, I'm sure. I recently made a picture book (using my laptop & digital photos) in memoriam to Parker. It was my special way of honoring him and whenever I look at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that he's gone, but happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't know if you have taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it may help later to have all of those memories in picture form to look back and reminisce. Take care. *Hugs* Amber Amber, We have been using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. Amber, _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI Response
Christy, I'm so sorry to hear about your little Gray Kitty! When our cat Parker died earlier this month, I found out about LTCI afterwards. I wondered if I would have known about it sooner if I could have given him this medicine to help him. He was severely anemic towards the end with no red blood cells. From what you are indicating, it may get to a point with the illness where it's too late, huh? I wish you the best with the precious time you have left with your little one. It certainly makes you appreciate the time you have together, I'm sure. I recently made a picture book (using my laptop & digital photos) in memoriam to Parker. It was my special way of honoring him and whenever I look at it it's a mixed bag of emotions (sadness that he's gone, but happiness at the good memories we formed). I don't know if you have taken many pictures of your Gray Kitty, but it may help later to have all of those memories in picture form to look back and reminisce. Take care. *Hugs* Amber Amber, We have been using LTCI on our little Gray Kitty. However, since his diagnosis on September 6 of this year, the disease has progressed to his bone marrow. At this point we are not sure if anything will help him. We have not run into another situation such as ours. We took in a stray pregnant female in 2007, which tested negative for the FelV. She had 3 male kittens, which we all kept. Our Gray Kitty is the only one that has been diagnosed with the FelV. The other two test negative. Also Gray Kitty is the only one with the B type blood. We are so puzzled, shocked, and very saddened that he has come down with this disease. We know our time with him is so very precious. Amber, _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows Mobile®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
