Re: uveitis and FIP
uveitis most certainly can be a symptom of dry FIP. But it can also be a symptom of so many other things. Dry FIP is especially hard to diagnose because the possible array of symptoms are so generic. Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes I agree and I would think more likely FELV than FIP. Hopefully it is none of these. Junior handles his bad eyesight very well. He hisses a lot at the other cats though. Sally On Dec 25, 2007 6:48 PM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, one of my seized fosters had uveitis as well. It is very hard to treat. I don't think it has a connection with FIP though, and cats can do very well partially blind or even completely blind in one eye. On Dec 25, 2007 5:42 PM, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your description of the eyes sounds like uveitis, Junior had this after his initial symptoms from the FELV onset. Junior had this after he was dx with FELV. It is hard to treat and took a over a month to clear up. He was already blind in one eye but left the good eye partially blind as well. You can google for pictures but sounds like what you describe and terramycin will not clear it up. I have not dealt with FIP except I lost a cat many years ago which the vet said was FIP. This was way before testing. He went on symptoms alone. I was away at college and the cat went off to die. I will be crossing my fingers that the kitty is negative fro all these infectious diseases. I too would take FIV over FELV any day. Bless you for caring. Today is the anniversery of Tinys death. Bansy also died on this day. He too had uveitis and if Kerry is still on the gorup maybe she can give you more information as to treatment. Tiny and Bandy went to the rainbows bridge togetther. Sally On Dec 25, 2007 3:02 PM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't access the Archives. I keep trying and I keep getting an error message. It's not my internet service, obviously, or I wouldn't be able to send this email. Anyone else tried? I'd really like to get to the Archives because I took a cat into my home that I took from the store on Sat. because he looked horrible and no one else is doing anything about it (of course). Took him to the doctor yesterday (had to fight to get approval to even do that and the cat is obviously sickly looking- I'm so frustrated), and the vet is very concerned about infectious disease. Thank god- but I think he was shocked that the cat hasn't been treated yet, so I made it very very clear that I just got my hands on this cat and have been playing clean-up duty since the end of Aug. on these orphaned Metro AC June babies and that the group I VOLUNTEER FOR has made my self-appointed task of cleaning up their neglected messes, very very difficult. I didn't mince words. It was Christmas Eve and I spent 2 hours and 15 mins at the vets and NOT being able to work and I just cracked I guess. The vet is suspecting- based only on the physical exam b/c we won't get the blood tests (full panel) back on Wed. (hopefully)-- FIP, FIV, and/or Felv in that order. I am not so worried about Felv b/c I have dealt with that before and I just don't think it's transmitted that easily in non-fighting cats (my own opinion). But I have never dealt with FIP and FIV and this cat was mingled with my other fosters by the adoption agency I volunteer for before I ever even took in any cats. So basically I am freaking out that I may have FIP cats on my hands and not have known it b/c of course I am now wondering if that is what has been wrong with my weak little Possum cat all this time. I'm mad and scared and feel like I was asked to take in cats yet not given the resources to deal with them fully and protect them from each other; not to mention the caring for them with 2 hands tied behind my back b/c to get approval to take them to a vet (for the agency to pay for it) takes more arguing and hoop jumping-- the cat has to be practically dying to be able to get approval without being told things like well, if it would make YOU feel better...but I think you are overreacting. And I spent literally hundreds of dollars premium food and litter that I just don't have any money left over to rush cats out to vets and pay for it myself. I'm just sick over this. I'm trying to care for this little guy until we get the results back. I have to give him fluids- which I have never done and he's a fighter. He got fluids yesterday at the clinic, but he was still somewhat sedated from when they took his blood, so I am sure my attempt today will not go half as smooth. He's not happy about being in a crate in a room by himself either and it breaks my heart. So I wanted to look through the archives because I know FIP and FIV have been discussed before. Also, of my 3 barn kittens (totally separated from the other fosters- so don't worry about that), I have
Re: uveitis and FIP
Fortunately I have only had one cat w/dry FIP, and she didn't have uveitis. On Dec 25, 2007 9:25 PM, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: uveitis most certainly can be a symptom of dry FIP. But it can also be a symptom of so many other things. Dry FIP is especially hard to diagnose because the possible array of symptoms are so generic. *Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Yes I agree and I would think more likely FELV than FIP. Hopefully it is none of these. Junior handles his bad eyesight very well. He hisses a lot at the other cats though. Sally On Dec 25, 2007 6:48 PM, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, one of my seized fosters had uveitis as well. It is very hard to treat. I don't think it has a connection with FIP though, and cats can do very well partially blind or even completely blind in one eye. On Dec 25, 2007 5:42 PM, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your description of the eyes sounds like uveitis, Junior had this after his initial symptoms from the FELV onset. Junior had this after he was dx with FELV. It is hard to treat and took a over a month to clear up. He was already blind in one eye but left the good eye partially blind as well. You can google for pictures but sounds like what you describe and terramycin will not clear it up. I have not dealt with FIP except I lost a cat many years ago which the vet said was FIP. This was way before testing. He went on symptoms alone. I was away at college and the cat went off to die. I will be crossing my fingers that the kitty is negative fro all these infectious diseases. I too would take FIV over FELV any day. Bless you for caring. Today is the anniversery of Tinys death. Bansy also died on this day. He too had uveitis and if Kerry is still on the gorup maybe she can give you more information as to treatment. Tiny and Bandy went to the rainbows bridge togetther. Sally On Dec 25, 2007 3:02 PM, Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't access the Archives. I keep trying and I keep getting an error message. It's not my internet service, obviously, or I wouldn't be able to send this email. Anyone else tried? I'd really like to get to the Archives because I took a cat into my home that I took from the store on Sat. because he looked horrible and no one else is doing anything about it (of course). Took him to the doctor yesterday (had to *fight* to get approval to even do that and the cat is obviously sickly looking- I'm so frustrated), and the vet is very concerned about infectious disease. Thank god- but I think he was shocked that the cat hasn't been treated yet, so I made it very very clear that I just got my hands on this cat and have been playing clean-up duty since the end of Aug. on these orphaned Metro AC June babies and that the group I VOLUNTEER FOR has made my self-appointed task of cleaning up their neglected messes, very very difficult. I didn't mince words. It was Christmas Eve and I spent 2 hours and 15 mins at the vets and NOT being able to work and I just cracked I guess. The vet is suspecting- based only on the physical exam b/c we won't get the blood tests (full panel) back on Wed. (hopefully)-- FIP, FIV, and/or Felv in that order. I am not so worried about Felv b/c I have dealt with that before and I just don't think it's transmitted that easily in non-fighting cats (my own opinion). But I have never dealt with FIP and FIV and this cat was mingled with my other fosters by the adoption agency I volunteer for before I ever even took in any cats. So basically I am freaking out that I may have FIP cats on my hands and not have known it b/c of course I am now wondering if that is what has been wrong with my weak little Possum cat all this time. I'm mad and scared and feel like I was asked to take in cats yet not given the resources to deal with them fully and protect them from each other; not to mention the caring for them with 2 hands tied behind my back b/c to get approval to take them to a vet (for the agency to pay for it) takes more arguing and hoop jumping-- the cat has to be practically dying to be able to get approval without being told things like well, if it would make YOU feel better...but I think you are overreacting. And I spent literally hundreds of dollars premium food and litter that I just don't have any money left over to rush cats out to vets and pay for it myself. I'm just sick over this. I'm trying to care for this little guy until we get the results back. I have to give him fluids- which I have never done and he's a fighter. He got fluids yesterday at the clinic, but he was still
RE: Uveitis
Thanks these are all great suggestions and I am still a bit shy although better than I used to be. I though I was seeing Juniors regular vet Friday. It was a scheduled appointment, but she had a conference to go to. I will see if I can talk to her today. Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis You shouldn't feel personally responsible for the fact that YOU didn't know the eye hurt until after the vet visit. The VET should have been able to tell that though, it's his/her JOB! Then he/she should have prescribed an appropriate medication for that pain before you left the office. It's not just that one vet, it seems to be many of them, from experience, they just do not seem to CARE that animals can feel pain, or are in denial about it. Don't beat yourself up... and don't write that vet off either. I use different vet for different things. Perhaps that is THE vet to take most cats to for the bulk work of testing, neutering, etc; but you might consider a different one for things like the Uveitis and other chronic painful conditions. Just because maybe he lacked in one area (pain management) doesn't mean he's not a wonderful vet for routine exams and vaccines and such. As far as you being a wimp, don't fret over it so much... it happens. Try writing a letter in advance of all the things you WANT to say to the vet, but know you wont have the courage to, then, when you first go in the door, hand the letter to the vet and say This is a list of things I want to go over with you or have questions about, and didn't want to forget. I wasn't sure how to phrase some things to ask you in person, so please forgive me if it seems rude or doesn't make any sense. That gets the info across, relieves you of the public speaking fear, and also apologizes in advance just in the off chance you offend him/her (though often in cases of shyness, it's often only in the mind of the shy person). I used to be terribly shy, couldn't talk to strangers, avoided social groups, always lost sleep over things I did say to people, etc. Then, I just cracked, and went from being so shy I couldn't function, to so offensive it's hard to communicate with others. Now, I often just start conversations with Sorry if this offends you, but or Please forgive me if this comes out wrong, but and I learned to laugh at myself, that was the hardest part, to stop dwelling on what other people thought of me, and just learn that NO-ONE is perfect, and everyone mis-speaks occasionally, the difference between outspoken people and shy people is that outspoken people go Oh my, did I just say that!? (laughing) Sometimes I don't know what I'm saying! I'm a moron! (more laughing) whereas shy people turn beet red and run away and hide, and run the scenario through their heads replaying it over and over, trying to analyze what went wrong and how they could have done it right, and how to fix it, and what the other person will think of them next time they meet, and how to avoid that person, etc, and lose lots of sleep and be very stressed about it. Learning to let go and surrender to the fact that you will not always be socially accepted in life will make you much happier and more able to participate in life. You have to learn to laugh it off, and then drop it, the past is the past, and you can't change things you have already said, and the future is the future, and you can't let fear of what you MIGHT say keep you from speaking. Live moment to moment, and learn that you're totally out of control in life, and just go with the flow, that's what I did, and it's worked fairly well for me. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Hi Sally, Bandy also takes when needed torbutrol for pain. I was always told to only give 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 to 4 days., but I don't recommend aspirin. not even at the low dose... He was always checked for cornea abrasions when he sees the vet..just in case there is an ulcer on the eye surface...as steroid drops can cause severe problems if there is an ulcer on the eye..It wasn't painful for them to do this..it is a drop they put in his eye then turn off the lights and if there is an ulcer, it will show up as a darker spot when you look at them..We had to back off the steroid drops once due to this...as they can scratch their eyes or something can get into it to make a small ulcer which usually heals quite rapidly then you resume the steroid drops... I hope they will give you what Bandy had as it worked wonders for him...As I mentioned, he is only getting drops once every few days now...as long term we face glaucoma. So when I take him to his specialist they always check for that...check the pressure in the eye.. Please keep us posted.. Prayers are with you two, Kerry, Bandy and Inky - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.
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Hi Sally, Bandy also takes when needed torbutrol for pain. I was always told to only give 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 to 4 days., but I don't recommend aspirin. not even at the low dose... He was always checked for cornea abrasions when he sees the vet..just in case there is an ulcer on the eye surface...as steroid drops can cause severe problems if there is an ulcer on the eye..It wasn't painful for them to do this..it is a drop they put in his eye then turn off the lights and if there is an ulcer, it will show up as a darker spot when you look at them..We had to back off the steroid drops once due to this...as they can scratch their eyes or something can get into it to make a small ulcer which usually heals quite rapidly then you resume the steroid drops... I hope they will give you what Bandy had as it worked wonders for him...As I mentioned, he is only getting drops once every few days now...as long term we face glaucoma. So when I take him to his specialist they always check for that...check the pressure in the eye.. Please keep us posted.. Prayers are with you two, Kerry, Bandy and Inky - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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Or try a Fentanyl patch (often called duragestic patches). That's a patch that they shave the cat and stick it on them, lasts for 3-4 days. Very effective pain relief. I'd be very concerned if my vet didn't offer pain meds, and then when pressed offered aspirin, that should be one of the last things for pain, yes, it's good for a blood thinner, but NOT the best choice for pain. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/fentanyl.htm Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Ok . Part of the confusion is my fault. Although I knew Junior's eye was sore. I did not think the eye was hurting as much as it was until after I had seen the vet. The antibiotic given I am sure is for the URI. Aspirin was mentioned for its anti-inflammatory properties not as a pain killer. I do know from experience with a cat that had a blood clot that the aspirin took away the pain almost immediately. So part of my reasoning is from my past experience with another cat. I will most likely not give anymore at this point. He does not have as much pain as he did. As I said already I need to discuss his condition with his regular vet. I am not very good at pressing for anything. I am a wimp sorry. This vets office has been very helpful in getting all the cats(11 of them tested, and vaccinated giving me a discount almost every time I have been in to see them. They are the ones who said yes to treat Junior and Tiny when Junior's old vet wanted to euthanize him a month ago. So I am happy about that. I turn to you guys for your experience and expertise with this dreaded disease. I will discuss pain with the vet next time I speak to her. Thanks for all the suggestions. I was a bit depressed over the situation. I love all my kitties. Sally From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis Or try a Fentanyl patch (often called duragestic patches). That's a patch that they shave the cat and stick it on them, lasts for 3-4 days. Very effective pain relief. I'd be very concerned if my vet didn't offer pain meds, and then when pressed offered aspirin, that should be one of the last things for pain, yes, it's good for a blood thinner, but NOT the best choice for pain. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/fentanyl.htm Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Re: Uveitis
When aspirin is given for blood clots, it is to thin the blood, which then takes away the pain (by getting rid of the clot); it is not primarily for pain. They also give small amounts of aspiring to lower fevers sometimes. But pain is usually treated with something else, like metacam, which also can have very bad side effects. Not a lot of good painkillers for cats. When Patches needed some for a few days until she could get some teeth pulled, the vet gave me narcotic shots to give her (can't remember the name of them-- something like buprenol). I understand the way you feel about the vets. We depend on vets a lot, both for treatment and for discounts so we can afford to treat, and it can feel like a very uncomfortable and thin line to walk when you want to press them on something. We want to get the best care we can without making the vet stop treating the animal, unless we have someone else to go to. So I do understand, and have been there. With humans, general practitioners realize that is what they are, and if there is something like an eye problem they refer to a specialist. Vets are not any more trained in the specialties, and yet many seem to take offense at being questioned or asked to look into something or to refer to a specialist. It is weird. The vet I have now is my favorite of the local vets I have had, mostly because he is very clear on the fact that he is a gp, and will frequently tell me he has no experience with something and wants to do research or to talk to a specialist. He recently consulted with a GI vet about Lucy's IBD and gave me a new treatment suggestion from her, which has really helped. Saved me a trip to a specialist. Not many vets will call other vets for suggestions like that. Michelle In a message dated 12/4/2006 8:28:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok … Part of the confusion is my fault. Although I knew Junior’s eye was sore. I did not think the eye was hurting as much as it was until after I had seen the vet. The antibiotic given I am sure is for the URI. Aspirin was mentioned for its anti-inflammatory properties not as a pain killer. I do know from experience with a cat that had a blood clot that the aspirin took away the pain almost immediately. So part of my reasoning is from my past experience with another cat. I will most likely not give anymore at this point. He does not have as much pain as he did. As I said already I need to discuss his condition with his regular vet. I am not very good at pressing for anything. I am a wimp sorry. This vets office has been very helpful in getting all the cats(11 of them tested, and vaccinated giving me a discount almost every time I have been in to see them. They are the ones who said yes to treat Junior and Tiny when Junior’s old vet wanted to euthanize him a month ago. So I am happy about that. I turn to you guys for your experience and expertise with this dreaded disease. I will discuss pain with the vet next time I speak to her. Thanks for all the suggestions. I was a bit depressed over the situation. I love all my kitties. Sally
Re: Uveitis
You shouldn't feel personally responsible for the fact that YOU didn't know the eye hurt until after the vet visit. The VET should have been able to tell that though, it's his/her JOB! Then he/she should have prescribed an appropriate medication for that pain before you left the office. It's not just that one vet, it seems to be many of them, from experience, they just do not seem to CARE that animals can feel pain, or are in denial about it. Don't beat yourself up... and don't write that vet off either. I use different vet for different things. Perhaps that is THE vet to take most cats to for the bulk work of testing, neutering, etc; but you might consider a different one for things like the Uveitis and other chronic painful conditions. Just because maybe he lacked in one area (pain management) doesn't mean he's not a wonderful vet for routine exams and vaccines and such. As far as you being a wimp, don't fret over it so much... it happens. Try writing a letter in advance of all the things you WANT to say to the vet, but know you wont have the courage to, then, when you first go in the door, hand the letter to the vet and say This is a list of things I want to go over with you or have questions about, and didn't want to forget. I wasn't sure how to phrase some things to ask you in person, so please forgive me if it seems rude or doesn't make any sense. That gets the info across, relieves you of the public speaking fear, and also apologizes in advance just in the off chance you offend him/her (though often in cases of shyness, it's often only in the mind of the shy person). I used to be terribly shy, couldn't talk to strangers, avoided social groups, always lost sleep over things I did say to people, etc. Then, I just cracked, and went from being so shy I couldn't function, to so offensive it's hard to communicate with others. Now, I often just start conversations with Sorry if this offends you, but or Please forgive me if this comes out wrong, but and I learned to laugh at myself, that was the hardest part, to stop dwelling on what other people thought of me, and just learn that NO-ONE is perfect, and everyone mis-speaks occasionally, the difference between outspoken people and shy people is that outspoken people go Oh my, did I just say that!? (laughing) Sometimes I don't know what I'm saying! I'm a moron! (more laughing) whereas shy people turn beet red and run away and hide, and run the scenario through their heads replaying it over and over, trying to analyze what went wrong and how they could have done it right, and how to fix it, and what the other person will think of them next time they meet, and how to avoid that person, etc, and lose lots of sleep and be very stressed about it. Learning to let go and surrender to the fact that you will not always be socially accepted in life will make you much happier and more able to participate in life. You have to learn to laugh it off, and then drop it, the past is the past, and you can't change things you have already said, and the future is the future, and you can't let fear of what you MIGHT say keep you from speaking. Live moment to moment, and learn that you're totally out of control in life, and just go with the flow, that's what I did, and it's worked fairly well for me. Phaewryn Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
RE: Uveitis
I don't have any advice, but I hope the sweetie feels better really soon. Hugs
for you and Junior, Sally.
Gina
Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }At this point his eye
hurts so bad I cant get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that
reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was
too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead.
I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in
his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the
Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with
the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating
well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the
one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If
it were he would not be able to see.
I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not
heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was
nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV.
Any other suggestions?
Sally
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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Uveitis
At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote:
What are you using in his eyes
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You have my prayers for your baby Junior. Gina Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor Juniors eye is so sore. He has been through so much this year. He is already blind in this eye due to his encounter with a car. I suppose this weakness predisposed him to getting this kind of infection. I am concerned it is signaling he is not getting better. I dont know how you folks do it. Emotionally it is tough enough. Financially I am not sure I can keep this up, especially if he keeps getting sick. I pray I wake up tomorrow and he feels somewhat better. Thanks for your support, please pray for Junior\ Sally Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
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Sally, If it is actually uveitis, it needs a steroid administered to it. My horse Pepsi had uveitis and went blind in the eye due to not doing this soon enough, and my cat Buddy had it and responded well to the steroid. You just don't want to use a steroid if the eye is ulcerated. A special eye exam can tell you that. There are prednisolone eye drops that they give to cats, and potentially also atropine drops. Is your vet an internist or opthalmologist? If not, if you can afford it and there is someone nearby, I highly recommend seeing a specialist about this. An opthalmologist would be best. Michelle
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Even after my horse Pepsi's eye was blind from uveitis, an opthalmologist (who I should have gotten to see her right away but did not know what was going on and listened to my regular vet) she was still having pain and inflammation in it. The opthalmologist was able to make that go away and keep her eye from needing to be removed (which is a bigger deal procedure in a horse than a cat anyway). Michelle In a message dated 12/1/2006 9:56:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Poor Junior’s eye is so sore. He has been through so much this year. He is already blind in this eye due to his encounter with a car. I suppose this weakness predisposed him to getting this kind of infection. I am concerned it is signaling he is not getting better. I don’t know how you folks do it. Emotionally it is tough enough. Financially I am not sure I can keep this up, especially if he keeps getting sick. I pray I wake up tomorrow and he feels somewhat better. Thanks for your support, please pray for Junior\ Sally
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I knew that I skipped a day on the aspirin.. also the vet said the anti-inflammatory properties were good for his eye. He ate more today.good sign I hope. sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Uveitis At 07:33 PM 12/8/2006, you wrote: Ask you vet about a dose of Buprenex.It is aspirin free and stronger, It takes a very low dose be careful about giving the Asprin 2 days in a row ,you see it accumulates and causes the problems, They do not clear it from their system like dogs and people, Buprenex is a VERY safe and effective pain killerSome of the more old fashioned not up to speed vets are unfamiliar with it,,,you can do a bit of educating.. Kelly I did not know how bad his eye hurt until he got home. The vet mentioned that aspirin was good for the inflammation. I am not sure why he did not just tell me to give him some. Although I do not like giving a cat aspirin I did give him about 1/3 of a baby aspirin last night. Best as I can tell he can probably get another dose tomorrow. I think when my sisters cat Fluffy had a blood clot many years ago she was given aspirin daily. I remember how much pain she was in. It was like a miracle how quickly the aspirin took away the pain and eventually dissolved the clot. She had partial paralysis of her hind legs due to the clot. He actually had his eye open today. It still looks bad but I think it is better than yesterday. Junior slept all day. I gave him L lysine 500 mg twice today in his baby food. He did not seem interested in eating anything else. His weight is good so a few days off his food should not be a problem. Tiny is a real trooper even after all the vaccinations he got yesterday. He was a little less active today, but he still played and tried to sneak outside. He is the only cat I know who does not play catch me if you can when he gets away. All I had to do was call his name, and click to him and he came right to me. He really hates being inside all the time. The birds would not use the feeder I put outside my window. It has been there 3 weeks. It shouldnt have taken them more than a week to find it. I moved it today to the side yard. More cover for the birds on the side of the house. I was hoping to give Tiny some entertainment since his favorite sport was catching yes and eating birds. I did hate him doing that. The rest of the cats are doing well. Hopefully we caught the FeLV before it spread to them. Several of the cats had the same or more exposure than Tiny did. Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis Can the vet give you some meds for pain? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Uveitis At this point his eye hurts so bad I cant get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead. I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If it were he would not be able to see. I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV. Any other suggestions? Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: 12/2/2006
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Hi Sally, My Bandy has uveitis, and we have been dealing with it since around Feb. this year.. We tried all sorts of things at first as he did have an eye infection so he was mostly on antibiotic eye drops until that cleared then we added the dex drops. He just kept getting worse and went almost all the way blind..So I took him to an eye specialist in Dallas.. He changed the meds and Bandy had almost immediate relief and most of his vision returned even though the doctor thought he had only a slim chance for recovery... He changed the med to prednisolone ac 1% ophth susp. He was getting 1 to 2 drops per eye 3 to 4 times a day..the fibrin went away almost immediately. We also used atropine ointment or you can use the drops to try to keep the pupils from getting fixed. Bandy's pupils are permanetly fixed now but he can see..I don't think he has alot of depth perception, but he can climb and get around great now..I haven't taken him back for a re-check since the summer and we are past due..and hoping to go soon as I can get this ringworm thing under control again..he is FIV+ Felv+ so we have dealt with alot of things.. I would suggest that you try this med as it is what works best for this..We need to have glaucoma tests repeated as often as possible as it can cause that...Bandy is on 1 drop every 3 days now and it seems to be working..I am going to contact his doctor next week and will keep you posted as to what our next move is for now.. Hope this helps..It was amazing for Bandy.. Let me know if you need any more info about it.. Kerry, Bandy and Inky I forgot to mention that after about 1 month they decreased the dosage for Bandy to 1 drop twice and day..and I think I told you that he is on it every 3 days now.. - Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Yahoo! Answers.
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At this point his eye hurts so bad I can't get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead. I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If it were he would not be able to see. I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV. Any other suggestions? Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L
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Can the vet give you some meds for pain? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Uveitis At this point his eye hurts so bad I can't get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead. I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If it were he would not be able to see. I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV. Any other suggestions? Sally -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L
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I did not know how bad his eye hurt until he got home. The vet mentioned that aspirin was good for the inflammation. I am not sure why he did not just tell me to give him some. Although I do not like giving a cat aspirin I did give him about 1/3 of a baby aspirin last night. Best as I can tell he can probably get another dose tomorrow. I think when my sister's cat Fluffy had a blood clot many years ago she was given aspirin daily. I remember how much pain she was in. It was like a miracle how quickly the aspirin took away the pain and eventually dissolved the clot. She had partial paralysis of her hind legs due to the clot. He actually had his eye open today. It still looks bad but I think it is better than yesterday. Junior slept all day. I gave him L lysine 500 mg twice today in his baby food. He did not seem interested in eating anything else. His weight is good so a few days off his food should not be a problem. Tiny is a real trooper even after all the vaccinations he got yesterday. He was a little less active today, but he still played and tried to sneak outside. He is the only cat I know who does not play 'catch me if you can' when he gets away. All I had to do was call his name, and click to him and he came right to me. He really hates being inside all the time. The birds would not use the feeder I put outside my window. It has been there 3 weeks. It shouldn't have taken them more than a week to find it. I moved it today to the side yard. More cover for the birds on the side of the house. I was hoping to give Tiny some entertainment since his favorite sport was catching yes and eating birds. I did hate him doing that. The rest of the cats are doing well. Hopefully we caught the FeLV before it spread to them. Several of the cats had the same or more exposure than Tiny did. Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis Can the vet give you some meds for pain? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sally mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Uveitis At this point his eye hurts so bad I can't get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead. I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If it were he would not be able to see. I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV. Any other suggestions? Sally _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L
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At 07:33 PM 12/8/2006, you wrote: Ask you vet about a dose of Buprenex.It is aspirin free and stronger, It takes a very low dose be careful about giving the Asprin 2 days in a row ,you see it accumulates and causes the problems, They do not clear it from their system like dogs and people, Buprenex is a VERY safe and effective pain killerSome of the more old fashioned not up to speed vets are unfamiliar with it,,,you can do a bit of educating.. Kelly I did not know how bad his eye hurt until he got home. The vet mentioned that aspirin was good for the inflammation. I am not sure why he did not just tell me to give him some. Although I do not like giving a cat aspirin I did give him about 1/3 of a baby aspirin last night. Best as I can tell he can probably get another dose tomorrow. I think when my sister's cat Fluffy had a blood clot many years ago she was given aspirin daily. I remember how much pain she was in. It was like a miracle how quickly the aspirin took away the pain and eventually dissolved the clot. She had partial paralysis of her hind legs due to the clot. He actually had his eye open today. It still looks bad but I think it is better than yesterday. Junior slept all day. I gave him L lysine 500 mg twice today in his baby food. He did not seem interested in eating anything else. His weight is good so a few days off his food should not be a problem. Tiny is a real trooper even after all the vaccinations he got yesterday. He was a little less active today, but he still played and tried to sneak outside. He is the only cat I know who does not play 'catch me if you can' when he gets away. All I had to do was call his name, and click to him and he came right to me. He really hates being inside all the time. The birds would not use the feeder I put outside my window. It has been there 3 weeks. It shouldn't have taken them more than a week to find it. I moved it today to the side yard. More cover for the birds on the side of the house. I was hoping to give Tiny some entertainment since his favorite sport was catching yes and eating birds. I did hate him doing that. The rest of the cats are doing well. Hopefully we caught the FeLV before it spread to them. Several of the cats had the same or more exposure than Tiny did. Sally -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:14 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis Can the vet give you some meds for pain? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sally To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Uveitis At this point his eye hurts so bad I can't get near it. The vet did not give me anything for that reason. He did say there was a medicine we could have used but because it was too difficult for me to administer it he went with the oral antibiotic instead. I do have erythromycin ointment that I had been using but can no longer get in his eye. He is sleeping peacefully right now. I am hoping a couple days on the Clindamycin will see some improvement in Junior. He is eating baby food with the Lysine and vitamins as well as a squirt of Nutrical. He has been eating well up until this latest setback. I am thinking it was this eye bc it is the one that had nerve damage from the accident. The other eye is not affected. If it were he would not be able to see. I had another cat that had to have his eye removed after an injury did not heal. He let me know that it was hurting. After a month of treatment there was nothing else to do but remove the eye. However he did not have FeLV. Any other suggestions? Sally -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly L Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Uveitis At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: 12/2/2006
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At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L Poor Junior's eye is so sore. He has been through so much this year. He is already blind in this eye due to his encounter with a car. I suppose this weakness predisposed him to getting this kind of infection. I am concerned it is signaling he is not getting better. I don't know how you folks do it. Emotionally it is tough enough. Financially I am not sure I can keep this up, especially if he keeps getting sick. I pray I wake up tomorrow and he feels somewhat better. Thanks for your support, please pray for Junior\ Sally No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/562 - Release Date: 12/1/2006
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*We're all thinking about you and Junior... and you will be in our prayers.* *Leslie =^..^=* On 12/1/06, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:55 PM 12/7/2006, you wrote: What are you using in his eyes Kelly L Poor Junior's eye is so sore. He has been through so much this year. He is already blind in this eye due to his encounter with a car. I suppose this weakness predisposed him to getting this kind of infection. I am concerned it is signaling he is not getting better. I don't know how you folks do it. Emotionally it is tough enough. Financially I am not sure I can keep this up, especially if he keeps getting sick. I pray I wake up tomorrow and he feels somewhat better. Thanks for your support, please pray for Junior\ Sally No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/562 - Release Date: 12/1/2006 -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
