Re: [Finale] HP Officejet 7130 All-in-One w/10.3.4
On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Honestly, I'd not recommend this at all. I'm no expert, but I concur. In my encounters with HP All-in-Ones (used with a Mac), I've found them awkward and erratic. My mother bought one and she hated it so much that after about a week she returned it. She spent too much time screwing around with it trying to get it to communicate properly with the computer. About a year later I had better luck borrowing my girlfriend's HP when my own printer was unavailable, but it was a pain in the butt getting it to work. Plus it was slow and churned through a ton of ink. I'd certainly never buy one. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP Officejet 7130 All-in-One w/10.3.4
On 16.06.2004 7:08 Uhr, Eric Dannewitz wrote Honestly, I'd not recommend this at all. Go get a cheap laser printer. A brother or something. I have a brother 1440 that is over two years old that I must have done about 20,000 pages with, and it is a tank. The price is under $200 now. And I think it's on it's 4th toner now? An inkjet like that will cost you way more in the long run. The cost per page compared to something that uses toner is the concern. I'd either recommend getting something that uses toner if you are mainly going to do Black and white copying. Brother makes an all in one I believe that uses a toner, and is pretty much the same engine as the 1440 series laser. Again, the Ink costs are going to kill you. While I am sure all this is correct concerning the HP All-in-ones I don't think one can damn inkjets altogether. I have a Canon i865, and the ink costs are probably lower than the toner costs of my HP Laserjet, especially if I buy third party ink cartridges, which are 2.50 each. Still, if printing music is the prime task, a laser is definitely the better choice, since there is not a single inkjet that I have heard off which can print completely smudge-free prints. Just be cautious of some printers like the OKI lasers, which have non-equal resolutions like 600x1200. While those are fine for text printing they are not ideal for music, as the lower resolution usually means that slurs and beams print badly. As far as music scanning goes, it doesn't really make much difference what kind of scanner you use, however, don't expect too much of it, especially with Finale's built-in music recognition. While this has improved in 2k4, it will only work well enough with very clean source music. Whether it actually saves you any work depends very much on the kind of music and the source. Most source material can be entered quicker in Finale than the time you need to correct the recognized music. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP Officejet 7130 All-in-One w/10.3.4
I agree as well. My experience with all-in-ones is that they embody the phrase Jack of All Trades, master of none. I used to have a gig with a church, creating bulletins and newsletters and the HP all-in-one was nothing but a problem. If you're looking for recreational value, they're fine. My parents have a similar outfit from Lexmark and they love it. I'd never print a score with it, though. Allen On 6/16/04 2:03 AM, Mark D Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Honestly, I'd not recommend this at all. I'm no expert, but I concur. In my encounters with HP All-in-Ones (used with a Mac), I've found them awkward and erratic. My mother bought one and she hated it so much that after about a week she returned it. She spent too much time screwing around with it trying to get it to communicate properly with the computer. About a year later I had better luck borrowing my girlfriend's HP when my own printer was unavailable, but it was a pain in the butt getting it to work. Plus it was slow and churned through a ton of ink. I'd certainly never buy one. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP Officejet 7130 All-in-One w/10.3.4
On 16 Jun 2004 at 0:03, Mark D Lew wrote: On Jun 15, 2004, at 10:08 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Honestly, I'd not recommend this at all. I'm no expert, but I concur. In my encounters with HP All-in-Ones (used with a Mac), I've found them awkward and erratic. My mother bought one and she hated it so much that after about a week she returned it. She spent too much time screwing around with it trying to get it to communicate properly with the computer. About a year later I had better luck borrowing my girlfriend's HP when my own printer was unavailable, but it was a pain in the butt getting it to work. Plus it was slow and churned through a ton of ink. I'd certainly never buy one. As a computer consultant on the Windows side, let me chime in and concur. There is no real savings in cost compared to buying separate devices. There are huge costs in time and aggravation because they just don't work very well. I have always recommended against them, but a couple of clients have ignored my advice and bought one, anyway. They all regretted it. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] HP Officejet 7130 All-in-One w/10.3.4
At 08:57 AM 6/16/04 -0700, Bob Colwell wrote: Yeah, it eats ink. And those cartridges are expensive. Did you notice that 17% of HP's bottom line last quarter came directly from ink cartridge sales? Do you all refill your inkjet cartridges? I keep two carts, one new and one refilled. The third-party refill kits for HP are excellent quality, and you can make three refills for about $5 each before you have to get a new $30 cart. The new InkTek refill kits don't make a mess, either. I swap in the new carts for final copies of large sheets, and use the refilled ones for everything else -- including, surprisingly, hi-res photos on glossy photo paper. I'm not sure why, but the alignment and quality do appear to hold up with the multiple light-ink-coverage passes HP uses for high resolution. Speaking of bottom lines, Staples had HP3425 photo printers that included a full cartridge (not a partial one) for less than the price of the cartridge itself. It seemed a shame, but I bought more than one printer rather than new ink cartridges. Now what? :) I'm waiting for the color laser printers to get within my price range. There's one for about $400 right now, but I haven't looked into its quality. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] HP Officejet 7130 All-in-One w/10.3.4
Johannes Gebauer wrote: While I am sure all this is correct concerning the HP All-in-ones I don't think one can damn inkjets altogether. I have a Canon i865, and the ink costs are probably lower than the toner costs of my HP Laserjet, especially if I buy third party ink cartridges, which are 2.50 each. Still, if printing music is the prime task, a laser is definitely the better choice, since there is not a single inkjet that I have heard off which can print completely smudge-free prints. Just be cautious of some printers like the OKI lasers, which have non-equal resolutions like 600x1200. While those are fine for text printing they are not ideal for music, as the lower resolution usually means that slurs and beams print badly. As far as music scanning goes, it doesn't really make much difference what kind of scanner you use, however, don't expect too much of it, especially with Finale's built-in music recognition. While this has improved in 2k4, it will only work well enough with very clean source music. Whether it actually saves you any work depends very much on the kind of music and the source. Most source material can be entered quicker in Finale than the time you need to correct the recognized music. Johannes I'd disagree about the 600x1200 printing. I have a 1200x1200 Lexmark printer, and a Brother 1440. I love the Lexmark's printing, as it seems thicker and it's postscript seems to give a little better output of slurs. However, the Brother laser's slurs and ties look just fine at 600x600 or higher resolution. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
