Re: [Finale] (no subject)
In a message dated 6/26/2004 6:23:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "See, folks! You've scared away another customer and warmed the hearts of Sibelius users! I wonder if some of these posts are from spies!" Oh please, Hal--I hope you're joking. Some of the most devasating critiques have come from long-time hard-core list members like Darcy Argue and David Fenton. --David Lawrence ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulation tool
On Jun 26, 2004, at 4:24 PM, Dan Carno wrote: Judging by what I have seen in messages posted recently, I wonder what % of Finale users are actually running 2004? I am running it in Windows with few problems, but virtually none of the editors I work for will touch it with a 10 foot pole. Believe it or not, I've purchased Fin Mac 2k4, but I haven't gotten around to installing it yet. Part of the reason is what I've heard here. The other part is just the nature of my work lately. I haven't done very much Finale work at all this year. Of what I have done, there's a project I'm just starting for a regular client who requests 2k2 for compatibility. The rest is a few pieces for another client who doesn't care about software, but I've got templates set up for her in 2k2 and I'm in no hurry to redo them. If I had a big project to do starting from scratch, I'd probably give 2k4 a try. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] (no subject)
Harold Owen wrote: Owain Sutton writes: Even if I had the cash, I wouldn't upgrade, after the endless woes I've heard about it on this list! See, folks! You've scared away another customer and warmed the hearts of Sibelius users! I wonder if some of these posts are from spies! ;-o) I'll never knowingly warm the heart of a Sibelius user! Except with a decent malt, that is... ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Owain Sutton writes: Even if I had the cash, I wouldn't upgrade, after the endless woes I've heard about it on this list! See, folks! You've scared away another customer and warmed the hearts of Sibelius users! I wonder if some of these posts are from spies! ;-o) Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing Smart Shapes
Darcy wrote to remind me Your method works only for shape expressions, not *smart shapes*. and I concede the error; which probably arises from my considering the "smart shape" tool as the "slur / line tool". If I don't know better, I should... ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulation tool
Dan Carno wrote: Hello Hal, Yes that is true -- as long as you are using Finale 2004! Earlier versions only show articulation boxes on the selected note, so doing mass, multiple articulations this way is not possible. Judging by what I have seen in messages posted recently, I wonder what % of Finale users are actually running 2004? I am running it in Windows with few problems, but virtually none of the editors I work for will touch it with a 10 foot pole. Even if I had the cash, I wouldn't upgrade, after the endless woes I've heard about it on this list! ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulation tool
Hello Hal, Yes that is true -- as long as you are using Finale 2004! Earlier versions only show articulation boxes on the selected note, so doing mass, multiple articulations this way is not possible. Judging by what I have seen in messages posted recently, I wonder what % of Finale users are actually running 2004? I am running it in Windows with few problems, but virtually none of the editors I work for will touch it with a 10 foot pole. Dan At 02:16 PM 6/26/2004, Harold Owen wrote: if you went to move the original set of articulations, you can use the Artic. Tool to select them all, then use the arrow keys to move them all at once up or down. For example, if you want . accents above staccato marks, you can enter the accents first, move them up, then use Mass Edit to enter the staccato marks. Quick and easy. Daniel Carno Music Engraving Services Quality work in Sibelius, Finale, Score and Igor 4514 Makyes Road Syracuse, New York 13215 (315) 492-2987 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
Kurt Gnos wrote: > BUT: I found no function to export a selection, I could only export a page. Select the bars you want to export, then when you go to Save as Graphics, make sure the 'Selected systems' radio button is checked. > I found no function to edit the size of a single page to separate the > symstem(s) I wanted to export, I could only edit the margins of all pages, > and not very confortably, either. You don't need to do this to export graphics, because you can just select the systems you want, but it's easy to create e.g. system breaks (select a barline and hit Enter on the keyboard) or page breaks (select a barline and hit Ctrl+Enter) as desired. You can also drag either end of the system to indent it, if necessary. > I found no function to alter the size of a staff, or some bars, or single > notes - is this not possible in Sibelius? Try the Layout -> Document Setup dialog. > So please, Coda, don't make me use Sibelius too much... I use both Finale 2k4 and Sibelius. Both programs are perfectly fine, but you do have to get used to the particular way they work. Sounds like you could do with spending a little bit more time with the Sibelius manual... Best, -WR -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
Hi, I just played around with Sibelius (Win XP), and, as someone had told, EPS export works perfectly! Fonts ok, scalable perfectly, TIF preview as expected, everything behaved as it should. I chose "normal" EPS, and there are a lot of graphic format selections. Printed fine on my LaserJet 2100 M. BUT: I found no function to export a selection, I could only export a page. Normally I need a separate symstem or two to input in Word or Quark Xpress. So I missed a function as in Finale: Double click and highlight the selection you want to export. I found no function to edit the size of a single page to separate the symstem(s) I wanted to export, I could only edit the margins of all pages, and not very confortably, either. I found no function to alter the size of a staff, or some bars, or single notes - is this not possible in Sibelius? I must say Finale may be more complicated (doesn't bother me after 14 years or so) but much more flexible. Midi output does not work as it should (and as I set it up) BUT: EPS export works all the same So please, Coda, don't make me use Sibelius too much... cheers Kurt ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing Smart Shapes
Noel, Your method works only for shape expressions, not *smart shapes*. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 26 Jun, 2004, at 04:52 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Chuck Israels wrote: I'm working with some of Bill Duncan's templates - importing advantageous things into my own. There are some custom Smart Shapes (very useful things, including ending repeats that are Smart Shapes rather than Repeat Tool items - they'll keep their relationships with the measure to which they are attached on extracted parts - hooray!). What I am wondering is, can these be imported from Bill's template as some kind of library? Bill doesn't know how. Any ideas? Open the template, select the expression tool, double click on the score to open the initial dialog, and select shape, and in the resulting dialog box, choose "select". This opens up the shape designer dialog for the template. Add, or delete any shapes you want at this point. Close all of the dialog boxes, and from the file menu, select "save libraries". In the dialog box presented, select "shapes". I would make sure to ask Bill Duncan's permission first. While I don't know whether or not Bill does, I consider some of my shapes to be copyrightable content. ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} FinMac 2004c - What happened to EPS preview
I guess ideally Finale should allow to set the preview resolution, but as it stands I am glad EPS works at all. Yes, I agree there. -- Rocky Road - in Oz "Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth." ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulation tool
Ddan Carno writes: The problem is that the articulations wind up on top of each other. My method is to add the first articulation (various methods); then run a macro which alters the vertical position of the first set -- via Mass Edit, Change Articulation Assignments -- by 36 evpu's; then add the second articulation. Dear Dan, That certainly will do it. However, if you went to move the original set of articulations, you can use the Artic. Tool to select them all, then use the arrow keys to move them all at once up or down. For example, if you want . accents above staccato marks, you can enter the accents first, move them up, then use Mass Edit to enter the staccato marks. Quick and easy. Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] {Spam} FinMac 2004c - What happened to EPS preview quality?
Johannes is correct. We were forced to use a bitmap preview because ATSUI (Apple Type
Services for Unicode Imaging--the text and type protocol moving forward on the Mac)
does not support the type of PICTs that we used to do. The type of PICT that we used
were a lot like EPS in that they referenced a font as opposed to simply taking a
screen shot. The advantage was that they were tiny and as an added benefit looked
decent on screen. We opted to keep the file size small. If you want to be able to
adjust the resolution of the preview (or request that it be a higher resolution), send
a feature request in.
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Subject: [Finale] {Spam} FinMac 2004c - What happened to EPS preview quality?
Now we have EPS back in Finale for mac, but what on earth happened to the on screen
preview quality? It's dreadful. I used to be able to read EPS's in Word quite clearly
on screen when they were made in Finale 2002b, now they are quite blocky and low res.
I opened a Fin2002 document up in Fin2004 and exported the same graphic into word, and
although they print the same, on screen the new version is awful.
Why would this be?
--
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fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth."
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[Finale] OT: CD is out (Haydn String Trios)
I hope noone is going to be offended if I use this forum for a brief note of self promotion: My Ensemble's new CD with String Trios by Haydn, most of them never recorded before, is now available from CDBaby at: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/berolinensis2 Currently this is the only place where it is directly available, if you are in Europe and can't wait to buy it please feel free to contact me. It will probably take another few weeks until the websites have been updated. Nonetheless I will happily see that any request is being processed immediately. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Articulation tool
Hi all, The problem is that the articulations wind up on top of each other. My method is to add the first articulation (various methods); then run a macro which alters the vertical position of the first set -- via Mass Edit, Change Articulation Assignments -- by 36 evpu's; then add the second articulation. Dan Carno At 01:09 PM 6/25/2004, Brad Beyenhof wrote: On Friday, June 25, 2004, at 08:39 AM, Stan Lord wrote: Remember how we can select a whole swathe of notes with the articulation tool and then select (say) an accent, and every note has an accent on it? Wonderful!! Have you ever tried to add another articulation (to the same notes) in the same way? Doesn't work for me. All that happens is the initial articulations are highlighted. So I have to apply the second ones individually. Is there any way of doing this, I wonder? Sure - use metatools. Hit Shift- to choose which articulation you'd like to set for that particular key. Then, hold the key while dragging around a group of notes, and it's added to all of them regardless of whether there are other articulations already present. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Daniel Carno Music Engraving Services Quality work in Sibelius, Finale, Score and Igor 4514 Makyes Road Syracuse, New York 13215 (315) 492-2987 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] {Spam} FinMac 2004c - What happened to EPS preview quality?
I can only guess, but I think previously the preview was using font information (which is possible afaik in PICTs) whereas now it is a simple 72 dpi bitmap. I have a feeling the new way is actually more standard. They should look ok at 100% on screen. If it really bothers you you may be able to use another app to make better previews. I have just tried this with MacGhostView, seems to work. I guess ideally Finale should allow to set the preview resolution, but as it stands I am glad EPS works at all. Johannes On 26.06.2004 16:02 Uhr, Rocky Road wrote > Now we have EPS back in Finale for mac, but what on earth happened to the on > screen preview quality? It's dreadful. I used to be able to read EPS's in Word > quite clearly on screen when they were made in Finale 2002b, now they are > quite blocky and low res. > > I opened a Fin2002 document up in Fin2004 and exported the same graphic into > word, and although they print the same, on screen the new version is awful. > > Why would this be? -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] {Spam} FinMac 2004c - What happened to EPS preview quality?
Title: FinMac 2004c - What happened to EPS preview quality? Now we have EPS back in Finale for mac, but what on earth happened to the on screen preview quality? It's dreadful. I used to be able to read EPS's in Word quite clearly on screen when they were made in Finale 2002b, now they are quite blocky and low res. I opened a Fin2002 document up in Fin2004 and exported the same graphic into word, and although they print the same, on screen the new version is awful. Why would this be? -- Rocky Road - in Oz "Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny, the last Battlestar, Galactica, leads a ragtag, fugitive fleet, on a lonely quest, for a shining planet known as Earth." <>___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Importing Smart Shapes
Hi Chuck-- Open up his template and your template Place all of the Smart Shapes that you want to move into a measure in his template Mass Edit, Select the measure. cmd-C Select a measure in your template cmd-V if everyone would bother customer support about smart shape libraries this wouldn't be necessary...(shameless plug for a pet feature of mine...) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chuck IsraelsSent: Friday, June 25, 2004 8:22 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Finale] Importing Smart Shapes I'm working with some of Bill Duncan's templates - importing advantageous things into my own. There are some custom Smart Shapes (very useful things, including ending repeats that are Smart Shapes rather than Repeat Tool items - they'll keep their relationships with the measure to which they are attached on extracted parts - hooray!). What I am wondering is, can these be imported from Bill's template as some kind of library? Bill doesn't know how. Any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give. Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Importing Smart Shapes
Chuck Israels wrote: I'm working with some of Bill Duncan's templates - importing advantageous things into my own. There are some custom Smart Shapes (very useful things, including ending repeats that are Smart Shapes rather than Repeat Tool items - they'll keep their relationships with the measure to which they are attached on extracted parts - hooray!). What I am wondering is, can these be imported from Bill's template as some kind of library? Bill doesn't know how. Any ideas? Open the template, select the expression tool, double click on the score to open the initial dialog, and select shape, and in the resulting dialog box, choose "select". This opens up the shape designer dialog for the template. Add, or delete any shapes you want at this point. Close all of the dialog boxes, and from the file menu, select "save libraries". In the dialog box presented, select "shapes". I would make sure to ask Bill Duncan's permission first. While I don't know whether or not Bill does, I consider some of my shapes to be copyrightable content. ns ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
