Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-17 Thread Hans Swinnen
Dunno. Have you optimized in page view BEFORE adding the staff in 
scroll view? That's essentially. This way Finale will not take the 
dummy in account for placing the MM. See my attached pict., token 
before the last step: move the added staff to overlap. The eighth note 
is moved to the right by hidden rests.

BTW, which vs Finale do you use?




Hans
===
You will excuse me for any typo's due to a visual handicap.

On 17 feb 2007, at 08:47, Minke Hylarides wrote:


Thank you for all your trouble in helping me out!
First I tried out Hans's idea, but Finale could not understand that I 
wanted
to have a MM rest in one stave AND stille see the other stave (MM rest 
=
part, ergo: no other staves are to be seen) (Hans, what did I do 
wrong?)


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[Finale] OT Acceptance of correction

2007-02-17 Thread Ken Moore

From Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion, p 283:

... the story of a respected elder statesman of the Zoology Department 
at Oxford when I was an undergraduate.  For years he had passionately 
believed, and taught, that the Golgi Apparatus (a microscopic feature of 
the interior of cells) was not real: an artefact, an illusion.  Every 
Monday morning it was the custom for the whole department to listen to a 
research talk by a visiting lecturer.  One Monday, the visitor was an 
American cell biologist who presented completely convincing evidence 
that the Golgi Apparatus was real.  At the end of the lecture, the old 
man strode to the front of the hall, shook the American by the hand, and 
said - with passion - 'My dear fellow, I wish to thank you.  I have been 
wrong these fifteen years.  We clapped our hands red.  No fundamentalist 
would ever say that.  In practice, not all scientists would.  But all 
scientists pay lip service to it as an ideal 


--
Ken Moore

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RE: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-17 Thread Minke Hylarides
Well yes, maybe I did not do it in that exact order; that could be the
solution... 
But after seeing your attached picture, I realized that inserting a MM rest
as a staff expression has the advantage that it allowes me to nudge it a bit
to the left, so that I have enough space for the upbeat cue notes on the
right.
I'm on Fin2005b by the way, same as you.

Thanks again,
Minke



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 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Hans
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 Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 9:54
 Aan: finale@shsu.edu
 Onderwerp: Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest
 
 Dunno. Have you optimized in page view BEFORE adding the staff in
 scroll view? That's essentially. This way Finale will not take the
 dummy in account for placing the MM. See my attached pict., token
 before the last step: move the added staff to overlap. The eighth note
 is moved to the right by hidden rests.
 BTW, which vs Finale do you use?

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Re: [Finale] Re: TGTools version 2.34a

2007-02-17 Thread David Horne

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:21:16 +1100, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Tobias Giesen wrote:
  
  Dear Subscribers,
  
  I would like to notify you that a new version of TGTools is available. 
  
  As you know, TGTools is a comprehensive collection of plug-ins for 
  Finale. You can get it from http://www.tgtools.com .
  
  Due to the many different Finale versions that TGTools must support, 
  and especially due to the changes in Macintosh computers over the last 
  years, some problems have piled up which I have now finally been able 
  to fix. I apologize for taking so long. The update is free of course.
 
 Thanks so much again Tobias for your plugins.  Between you and Robert 
 P., you have made such a tremendous contribution to Finale and our 
 productivity over all of these years.

I agree completely. I haven't used Robert's much recently- entirely my
fault for not keeping up with these things, and no doubt when I get to
use them again, I'll kick myself for not having done so much earlier.
These kinds of plugins pay for themselves many times over in my
experience.
 
 I will have to go to Sibelius very soon (publisher reasons) but the ease 
 of use combined with sheer power of your plugins are forcing me to 
 thoroughly investigate how I can stick with Finale.  They're that good!

Ouch- is that a recent Faber requirement?

David
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Re: [Finale] left hand, right hand abbreviation

2007-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 16.02.2007 Guy Hayden wrote:

I read messages for days about this issue without anyone mentioning the
French abbreviations.  Perhaps I should have avoided the German entirely.
That, however, seemed less than helpful.  In fact, when I was preparing the
message for a moment I had written Roth Hande, then realized that is the
brand name for some German cigarettes.  Of course, I may have spelled that
wrong, too.


Actually, yes. The brand is Roth Händle. You can still get them without
filters I believe.


Perhaps a personal note offering a correction would have been more
appropriate.  


No, actually. It needed to go to the list, because what you said was
wrong, and we don't want generations of piano students to be learning
the wrong translations, just because one time someone gave the wrong
translations on a public forum, do we?

I am truly sorry I offended you, that was definitely not my intention.

;-)

Johannes
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http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de


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Re: [Finale] FinMac 2k7b Problem Printing PDFs

2007-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 17.02.2007 Neal Gittleman wrote:

There is a printing problem.  ID = -108
Please check the printer's power and interface connections.
Also check the Chooser for the correct printer selection.


Wow, I thought the chooser was part of OS 9, is there one in OS X, too?

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Re: [Finale] Re: TGTools version 2.34a

2007-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 17.02.2007 Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:

I will have to go to Sibelius very soon (publisher reasons) but the ease of use 
combined with sheer power of your plugins are forcing me to thoroughly 
investigate how I can stick with Finale.  They're that good!


Let us know how this quest continues. I am conviced you can get the same 
output from Finale that you get from Sibelius.


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Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-17 Thread Hans Swinnen

You can also edit the MM rest with the Measure Tool  MM Rests  Edit
Set the right offset  to -48 or so, thus making place for one note.

Cheers,
Hans
===
On 17 feb 2007, at 11:43, Minke Hylarides wrote:


Well yes, maybe I did not do it in that exact order; that could be the
solution...
But after seeing your attached picture, I realized that inserting a MM 
rest
as a staff expression has the advantage that it allowes me to nudge it 
a bit
to the left, so that I have enough space for the upbeat cue notes on 
the

right.
I'm on Fin2005b by the way, same as you.

Thanks again,
Minke




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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens 
Hans

Swinnen
Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 9:54
Aan: finale@shsu.edu
Onderwerp: Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

Dunno. Have you optimized in page view BEFORE adding the staff in
scroll view? That's essentially. This way Finale will not take the
dummy in account for placing the MM. See my attached pict., token
before the last step: move the added staff to overlap. The eighth note
is moved to the right by hidden rests.
BTW, which vs Finale do you use?


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Re: [Finale] Re: TGTools version 2.34a

2007-02-17 Thread dhbailey

Johannes Gebauer wrote:

On 17.02.2007 Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:
I will have to go to Sibelius very soon (publisher reasons) but the 
ease of use combined with sheer power of your plugins are forcing me 
to thoroughly investigate how I can stick with Finale.  They're that 
good!


Let us know how this quest continues. I am conviced you can get the same 
output from Finale that you get from Sibelius.


Johannes


But the problem comes when Sibelius the corporation has convinced the 
publisher to make the switch to Sibelius entirely, or to at last install 
in-house notation software for last-minute changes which can be handled 
best on the spot and for which a subcontractor isn't necessary, so that 
submissions have to be in Sibelius format and not simply on paper 
ready-to-print anymore.


I'll be that's where his dilemma comes from.

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RE: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-17 Thread Minke Hylarides
Finale is wonderful!

thanks again,
Minke

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 Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 12:24
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 Onderwerp: Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest
 
 You can also edit the MM rest with the Measure Tool  MM Rests  Edit
 Set the right offset  to -48 or so, thus making place for one note.
 
 Cheers,
 Hans
 ===
 On 17 feb 2007, at 11:43, Minke Hylarides wrote:
 
  Well yes, maybe I did not do it in that exact order; that could be the
  solution...
  But after seeing your attached picture, I realized that inserting a MM
  rest
  as a staff expression has the advantage that it allowes me to nudge it
  a bit
  to the left, so that I have enough space for the upbeat cue notes on
  the
  right.
  I'm on Fin2005b by the way, same as you.
 
  Thanks again,
  Minke
 
 
 
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens
  Hans
  Swinnen
  Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2007 9:54
  Aan: finale@shsu.edu
  Onderwerp: Re: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest
 
  Dunno. Have you optimized in page view BEFORE adding the staff in
  scroll view? That's essentially. This way Finale will not take the
  dummy in account for placing the MM. See my attached pict., token
  before the last step: move the added staff to overlap. The eighth note
  is moved to the right by hidden rests.
  BTW, which vs Finale do you use?
 
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Re: spam [Finale] very TAN (was: musical note values in OZ?)

2007-02-17 Thread Dick Hauser


On Feb 16, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Bruce K H Kau wrote:

And, just to make a very roundabout attempt to bring this somewhat  
back to music/finale, is there any kind of term for musical  
spam (other than muzak(tm))? Many's the time I've been mulling  
over a tune/arrangement in my head while walking about, only to  
have a PA (or some car driving by) bombard me with musical spam.


I have heard this sort of thing described as something like music  
cooties in context with stories about a game played by   
professionals that do a lot of different gigs - trying to play some  
memorable little ditty during warmup so that it is implanted into the  
heads of those close around.


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RE: [Finale] Cue notes starting IN multi measure rest

2007-02-17 Thread verngraham
MInke: Fantastic! I'm glad to have helped. I really thought I had given
you a way too complicated fix for a problem I that I thought some one else
solved brilliantly and simply, but I have had to do some very strange and
work intensive things to get the appearance of some scores  parts to be
what was desired. What's really great about Finale is you can do these
strange and complicated runarounds! (you can see a sample score on my site
that has 2 conductors conducting an orchestra split in three sections with
different tempos at the same time, and watch what happens to the bar
lines; this was a real world solution for a client whose original score
was hand copied and published by Boosey who was incorporating my revisions
to the original score and parts, so I also had to try and match the
copyist's hand!) The drawing tool/shape designer was a stroke of genius to
include. Now, if Finale would include all the typical Publishing Protocols
to Page Setup  Layout options (binding creep, printer spreads, etc., like
what you find in Quark or the ill-fated MusicPress) that would be MANNA
from heaven.


 Thank you for all your trouble in helping me out!
 First I tried out Hans's idea, but Finale could not understand that I
 wanted
 to have a MM rest in one stave AND stille see the other stave (MM rest =
 part, ergo: no other staves are to be seen) (Hans, what did I do wrong?)
 Then David's suggestion would have worked if I did this project in Fin07.
 But now I would have to renumber all following measure regions, and having
 a
 lot of those, I decided to try Vern's way.
 And that works! Thanks Vern!
 And thank you all.

 Minke
 (isn't it fun to fool Finale?)



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 I have a solution, but it's nasty work. I've encountered similar issues
 before and you have to lie to Finale and make it do things it doesn't
 want
 to do.

 I'm assuming that your concern here is only with the individual part,
 and
 not the score, so here goes.

 In m. 20 (where you want to see the cue notes) enter the rests and cue
 notes that you want to see (at full size). Hide the ones you don't want
 to
 see. Reduce the entries as needed (percentage tool for individual
 notes/rests, or mass mover tool for all). In the preceding measures
 (that
 should comprise the 20 measure MM rest, enter whole rests (depending on
 the meter, if it's 3/4 use dotted half, etc) and hide them. Then, using
 the Measure Tool, select 1-19 to have no bar lines. Select the width to
 extremely small (your choice).  Now, go to the Expressions tool, select
 Staff Expression and create the 20 bar multi measure rest in the Shape
 Designer. (You can copy the default shape of the MM rest, which I think
 is
 Shape ID 0), or you can start from scratch using the drawing tools
 available. If you have ever used Freehand or Illustrator or any drawing
 program this should not be unbearably tedious. Be sure to include the
 numbers (20) over the MM rest; this should be a complete, stand alone MM
 rest clone so you can place it in the part and have it look authentic.
 One
 you finish, make sure that the shape is not selected to stretch or
 expand
 with the music and click it into the part somewhere near the approximate
 center of the 20 measure range you already modified. You'll have to play
 with the system layout and possibly change the width of the measures
 that
 comprise this fake MM rest (using the measure tool), but you should end
 up
 with something that looks like what they want to see.  Fun, huh?

  Dear Colleagues!
 
  Having a new problem I can't figure out myself, I turn to you again.
 
 
 
  Is there a way to start cue notes IN a multimeasure rest?
 

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[Finale] OT: All too real news from the Onion

2007-02-17 Thread Randolph Peters

Apple Hard At Work Making iPhone Obsolete

CUPERTINO, CA-Only a month after the much-heralded announcement of 
the iPhone, Apple CEO Steve Jobs confirmed that his engineers were 
already working around-the-clock on the touchscreen smartphone's 
far-superior replacement. We looked at [the iPhone's] innovative 
user interface, the paradigm-shifting voicemail, the best-in-class 
mobile browser, and we realized we could make all that seem 
ridiculously outdated by the time the product becomes available to 
customers in June, said Jobs, who described the project as Apple 
reinventing the iPhone. When the second-generation iPhone comes out 
this fall, we want iPhone users to feel not just jealous, but 
downright foolish for owning such laughably primitive technology. 
Jobs also hinted that the second iPhone device would not be 
compatible with existing Mac computers, third-party peripherals, or 
any future Apple products.


http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/apple_hard_at_work_making

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[Finale] Staff List problem

2007-02-17 Thread Mike Greensill
I have just added two staves to an existing score and am trying to  
edit the staff lists to include the new staves. But the staff list  
dialogue box is completely unresponsive. It won't let me add anything  
on the score or the parts. Any ideas.


Now I've made up a brand new template with the setup wizard and the  
same thing applies. Can't edit OR create new staff lists.


This has happened to me before and I can't remember whether there's a  
solution or whether it just goes away. The question is, has this  
happened to anyone else?


Finale 2007c. 17 powerbook. 1.5 megs RAM

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Re: [Finale] OT: All too real news from the Onion

2007-02-17 Thread Eric Dannewitz

Ah, good laugh there.

However, did anyone see the patent Microsoft had for a phone?
http://www.macnn.com/blogs/?p=263

Amazing. They missed it, as usual.

Randolph Peters wrote:

Apple Hard At Work Making iPhone Obsolete

CUPERTINO, CA-Only a month after the much-heralded announcement of the 
iPhone, Apple CEO Steve Jobs confirmed that his engineers were already 
working around-the-clock on the touchscreen smartphone's far-superior 
replacement. We looked at [the iPhone's] innovative user interface, 
the paradigm-shifting voicemail, the best-in-class mobile browser, and 
we realized we could make all that seem ridiculously outdated by the 
time the product becomes available to customers in June, said Jobs, 
who described the project as Apple reinventing the iPhone. When the 
second-generation iPhone comes out this fall, we want iPhone users to 
feel not just jealous, but downright foolish for owning such laughably 
primitive technology. Jobs also hinted that the second iPhone device 
would not be compatible with existing Mac computers, third-party 
peripherals, or any future Apple products.


http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/apple_hard_at_work_making

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[Finale] Execute Shape to control tempo?!?

2007-02-17 Thread Bob Shuster
I've probably spent way too much time on this already, as it doesn't  
affect the printout, but it bugs me that I can't figure it out - so I  
appeal to the gurus among you for help!  :)


I have a piece in 6/8 - the tempo is set at the beginning to dotted  
quarter = 60.   I do have the human playback  style on and set to  
classical (could be my whole prob?!)  In measure 9, I'd like to slow  
the second beat down dramatically but incrementally, so using a smart  
shape seems to be the perfect fit, no?


To illustrate, I'll label each eighth note in the measure as E1, E2,  
etc.   So my resulting tempo should be something like:


E1=40 (dotted quarters per minute)
E2=40
E3=40
E4=30 (rit. starts here)
E5=20
E6=10

In the next measure I have an A Tempo expression that also sets the  
tempo back to dotted quarter = 60.


I won't bother the list with what I've tried - because nothing has  
worked.  Would some kind soul step me through the process - and  
educate the rest of us while you're at it?


Thanks so much.   - Bob Shuster

BTW - this particular arrangement is based on PD material!!!   :)
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Re: [Finale] Execute Shape to control tempo?!?

2007-02-17 Thread verngraham
Have you tried working in the view that allow the channel and mixing
control on the left hand pane of the staves (I can't remember the view
name, but it's not scroll and it's not mixer, and there's only one other
view rather than page, so that's the one) You can use the tempo tap tool
which will give you exactly the tempo variations you tap in. (Using your
space bar) It's a little clumsy the first few times, but much better once
you master it than any other method that I've tried thus far. There is
ample documentation in the Quick Help and the full Finale help menu, to
give you the basics of how to do this, and it works great!

 I've probably spent way too much time on this already, as it doesn't
 affect the printout, but it bugs me that I can't figure it out - so I
 appeal to the gurus among you for help!  :)

 I have a piece in 6/8 - the tempo is set at the beginning to dotted
 quarter = 60.   I do have the human playback  style on and set to
 classical (could be my whole prob?!)  In measure 9, I'd like to slow
 the second beat down dramatically but incrementally, so using a smart
 shape seems to be the perfect fit, no?

 To illustrate, I'll label each eighth note in the measure as E1, E2,
 etc.   So my resulting tempo should be something like:

 E1=40 (dotted quarters per minute)
 E2=40
 E3=40
 E4=30 (rit. starts here)
 E5=20
 E6=10

 In the next measure I have an A Tempo expression that also sets the
 tempo back to dotted quarter = 60.

 I won't bother the list with what I've tried - because nothing has
 worked.  Would some kind soul step me through the process - and
 educate the rest of us while you're at it?

 Thanks so much.   - Bob Shuster

 BTW - this particular arrangement is based on PD material!!!   :)
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Re: [Finale] Staff List problem

2007-02-17 Thread Mike Greensill

Here's a weird thing. I have had this problem as follows.

I put the mac to sleep with Finale, Safari and Mail open..and  
often when I wake it up Finale quits. Of course I now make sure I  
save before putting it to sleep.


So it just happened again and guess what.I open the file I was  
working on and the Staff Lists are now working fine.


Go figure.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-17 Thread Michael Cook
You can take your pick: in 2007 (original version) hyphens never  
disappear, even in situations where you might want them to. It is  
also noticeable that when syllables get close together, the hyphens  
are placed too far to the right.


In 2007c, too many hyphens disappear. This contrasts with older  
versions (2005 and before), where the hyphen only disappears when the  
two syllables are almost touching each other. I opened a short file  
made in 2005b in 2007c: 9 of the 29 hyphens were no longer visible.


So if you want all hyphens to show up, and can accept them being too  
far right, use 2007 (original). If you prefer having hyphens  
disappear unless you set the spacing rather wide, use 2007c. If you  
want hyphens to work as they did in older versions, use an older  
version!


Michael

On 17 Feb 2007, at 18:59, dc wrote:


Michael Cook écrit:
 But the disappearing hyphens still disappear, so hyphens are  
still in a bad

way: 2007c remains unsuitable for serious publishing with lyrics.


Thanks for the info, Michael. Is it actually worse than 2007?




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Re: [Finale] Staff List problem

2007-02-17 Thread Christopher Smith
Sounds like your problem was just Finale crashing. It happens, though  
a lot less than it did under System 9! When I switched to OSX I  
estimate my crashes went down to 5 to 10% of what they were in System  
9. That's 10 to 20 TIMES less often!


Most of the problems I have with Finale fall into two categories:

1) Reproducible bugs, or at least consistent behaviour that I might  
not like (I know that's not the same as a bug!)


2) things I've never seen before, and never see again, usually  
curable by quitting and restarting Finale, or possibly logging out  
and then back in again, or as a last resort, rebooting the computer.


The much talked-about overwrite bug that seemed to get me so often  
was usually accompanied by odd behaviour just before it hit, like  
Metatool keys  not working, or other keyboard commands having no  
effect while the menu items worked fine. I haven't seen it at all in  
2006, which makes it about a year since I last saw it.


Christopher



On Feb 17, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Mike Greensill wrote:


Here's a weird thing. I have had this problem as follows.

I put the mac to sleep with Finale, Safari and Mail open..and  
often when I wake it up Finale quits. Of course I now make sure I  
save before putting it to sleep.


So it just happened again and guess what.I open the file I was  
working on and the Staff Lists are now working fine.


Go figure.



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Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-17 Thread Christopher Smith


On Feb 17, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Michael Cook wrote:

You can take your pick: in 2007 (original version) hyphens never  
disappear, even in situations where you might want them to. It is  
also noticeable that when syllables get close together, the hyphens  
are placed too far to the right.


This seems to the same as 2006, FWIW.

christopher



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[Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all,

F2K7c, Windows XP.

The Midi setup on the Finale softsynth does not allow the dialog box to
appear. When I click Softsynth settings (for any device on the list,
including none), an error box says it cannot initialize softsynth
playback, device in use.

The Native Instruments stuff works, but I don't want to use that and have
it unchecked. This happens even if Finale is the first program I run after
reboot. Nothing in the droplist works, even the standard Microsoft synths
or none.

The regular Finale playback works fine in 2K6 and previous versions, but
has never worked in any version of 2K7. Tonight I need it.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dennis







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Re: spam [Finale] very TAN (was: musical note values in OZ?)

2007-02-17 Thread John Howell

At 9:39 PM -1000 2/16/07, Bruce K H Kau wrote:
SPAM comes from SPiced hAM. Much as we make fun of it (here in 
Hawai'i, too), it was a godsend for those who, during WWII, didn't 
really have any other major source of protein. In Hawai'i, that was 
just about everyone. That, according to legend, is where our taste 
for SPAM comes from. (Vienna sausage was also available. Although my 
parents gave me a lot of that, too, it fortunately did not become 
popular here.)


Actually I rather liked it as a kid, myself, and could still go for 
it occasionally except that the amount of sodium makes it a no-no.


And, just to make a very roundabout attempt to bring this somewhat 
back to music/finale, is there any kind of term for musical spam 
(other than muzak(tm))? Many's the time I've been mulling over a 
tune/arrangement in my head while walking about, only to have a PA 
(or some car driving by) bombard me with musical spam.


A profounder question than you might think.  What makes spam, 
spam?  Is it the content?  Or is it the fact that it is forced on 
you without your permission?  I would think the latter, since if 
nobody liked Muzak (tm) it wouldn't be as effective on the masses as 
it apparently is.


Just started watching the movie Marie Antoinette.  The illustration 
of wallpaper music constantly playing in the background is quite 
telling, but the rock parts of the score strike me as so totally 
anachronistic that they really turn me off.  THAT'S spam!!


John


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RE: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-17 Thread Williams, Jim
Dennis, 
IIRC the installer for 2k7 had issues. I believe if a user tried a custom 
install, a few things did not install...one of which was the softsynth. Did you 
do a custom install?
Jim



From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Sent: Sat 17-Feb-07 21:18
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup


Hi all,

F2K7c, Windows XP.

The Midi setup on the Finale softsynth does not allow the dialog box to
appear. When I click Softsynth settings (for any device on the list,
including none), an error box says it cannot initialize softsynth
playback, device in use.

The Native Instruments stuff works, but I don't want to use that and have
it unchecked. This happens even if Finale is the first program I run after
reboot. Nothing in the droplist works, even the standard Microsoft synths
or none.

The regular Finale playback works fine in 2K6 and previous versions, but
has never worked in any version of 2K7. Tonight I need it.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dennis







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Re: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-17 Thread Wade KOTTER
Dennis:

I'm no expert, so I can't really diagnose your problem. However, I'm
running 2007c on Windows XP and can report that the Softsynth settings
dialog box works just as it should. No error messages here.

Wade

 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/07 7:18 PM 
Hi all,

F2K7c, Windows XP.

The Midi setup on the Finale softsynth does not allow the dialog box to
appear. When I click Softsynth settings (for any device on the list,
including none), an error box says it cannot initialize softsynth
playback, device in use.

The Native Instruments stuff works, but I don't want to use that and
have
it unchecked. This happens even if Finale is the first program I run
after
reboot. Nothing in the droplist works, even the standard Microsoft
synths
or none.

The regular Finale playback works fine in 2K6 and previous versions, but
has never worked in any version of 2K7. Tonight I need it.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dennis







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RE: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:52 PM 2/17/2007 -0500, Williams, Jim wrote:
IIRC the installer for 2k7 had issues. I believe 
if a user tried a custom install, a few things did 
not install...one of which was the softsynth. Did 
you do a custom install?

I didn't. I just used the default for 2K7. But I'll look to see if there
are any missing components in the directories. Thanks for the tip on that.

Dennis



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RE: [Finale] F2K7 no standard playback setup

2007-02-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:52 PM 2/17/2007 -0500, Williams, Jim wrote:
IIRC the installer for 2k7 had issues.

You were right ... it wasn't a custom install, but the soundfont was indeed
missing from the component files. I dragged the one from the Finale 2006
folder and it works fine.

Thanks much!

Dennis




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Re: [Finale] Finale 2007c is available

2007-02-17 Thread Raymond Horton
This reminds me.  Once when I emailed Gary, he asked about sampling me, 
but I never got back to him.  Can this happen, hundreds of miles away?



Ray Horton
Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra


Darcy James Argue wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I hadn't thought of replacing the low E string with a low B string. If 
you're willing to do that for Gary, that would actually be very cool. 
I'll be sure to mention it to him at some point.


Cheers,

- Darcy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



On 16 Feb 2007, at 8:00 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

I have a newly acquired bass that I have offered to let Gary record 
(no response on that so far - I think he's swamped with more 
important things).  It is deeper sounding than the one included in 
JABB (bass sample 2) and had a low C extension on it when it was used 
in the Seattle Symphony some years ago.  You can see the repairs 
where the holes for the extension are filled in on the side of the 
neck.  My assumption is that there is enough depth in this 
instrument's sound to support the lower notes and, if Gary ever takes 
me up on my offer, I could easily put on a low B string in place of 
the low E, just to record the extra low range.  Scordatura will be 
unlikely to have the same good sound, as the string would begin to 
sound flabby as you de-tuned it.  You might get away with a whole 
step - but by the time you got down to C, it would problaby not sound 
very good without either the extra length an extension would provide, 
or the extra wight of a thicker string.


If you want this - go ahead and bug Gary, and remind him of my offer 
to spend a few hours making the samples.

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[Finale] Scores without barlines

2007-02-17 Thread Darcy James Argue

Two questions:

1) When engraving a score that doesn't use barlines, what's the best  
way to ensure that the invisible barlines don't affect spacing (other  
than making each score system a single measure)?


2) What's the best way to deal with a score that combines sections  
with barlines (where you *do* want the barlines to affect music  
spacing) and sections without?


Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY



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