[Finale] Re: EPS in FinMac 2008 woes: daily update

[Claudio Pompili]

Don't know about FinMac2k8 EPS but I've done a lot of EPS from 
Fin2k7c/OSX 10.4.10 to Word 2k4 in last 6 months without any problems 
(after I'd done some serious re-organising of all of my fonts [I use 
PS Type 1 fonts wherever possible] and noting all the discussions on 
EPS probs on this list). The issue for me was which format graphic 
file, other than the full EPS, to use that offered a good compromise 
between clarity and size, noting that Word 2k4's preferred format is 
PNG. At times there are significant file size differences between 
Preview and Graphic Convertor, the reasons for which I haven't as yet 
cracked, however, both PNG's are very presentable even with some 
reasonable enlargement.


Did a lot of tests 6 months ago and went with Finale 2k7 Export as 
EPS (fonts embedded) and then converted to PNG either in Preview or 
Graphic Converter 5.9 (www.lemkesoft.com). For annotated examples I 
use Illustrator CS3 and export to PNG.


I was curious about Darcy's workflow to Print>Save as PDF, then crop 
in Preview and import the PDF into Word. Did some tests this morning 
using a fairly basic Fin2k7 score with Maestro and Engraver Type1 
fonts and other text fonts. All fairly standard. I created both a PDF 
(Print>Save as PDF) and EPS (Export EPS) files from FinMac2k7. I put 
together a comparison Word 2k4 doc of both PDF (132kb) and EPS 
(492kb) files from all three graphics apps.


Using the PDF file (132kb of complete page) as the starting point, I 
found that when I did the cropped PDF in Preview, it retains all of 
the underlying PDF data so file size is not reduced from original. 
Secondly, when the cropped PDF is dragged into Word 2k4, the onscreen 
image appears initially acceptable but on closer inspection quite 
fuzzy at modest magnifications. Similarly at modest magnification not 
good when printed to Brother laser HL-1430 600dpi and HP LaserJet 
1200dpi. Don't understand this result only my system.


Using the same starting PDF file, I got a got a good result from 
Preview/Illustrator with modest file size when I converted it to PNG 
(60kb) and dragged it into Word 2k4. Using the Fin2k7 PDF file.


I also tried converting from the PDF to EPS and dragging that into 
Word2k4. Preview doesn't provide for saving the PDF file as EPS but 
both Graphic Converter and Illustrator do but create EPS files of 
around 700kb in size. When dragged into Word 2k4, the onscreen 
graphic looks awful but prints in crisp EPS clarity. Still, this 
could be a workaround if having problems with Finale's Export EPS.


Of course, the very best results in the most straightforward manner 
were achieved by starting with the Fin2k7 export EPS file and 
embedded fonts.


--
cheers, Claudio


Claudio Pompili
composer, sound designer, music consultant
http://www.claudiopompili.net.au/ (**2002-2003 Golden Web Award**)
AMC http://www.amcoz.com.au

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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[A-NO-NE Music]

Don Hart / 2007/08/22 / 11:19 PM wrote:

>Or shift/update layout (on a mac) will do it in one swoop, I believe. - Don
>Hart

OK, this just got me.
Force update used to be Opt+Update long time ago, and I have been
wondering what happen to it.  It is now Shift+Update?  I don't
understand.  In Mac GUI, Opt will modify menu item by its Guideline. 
Shift key has no function for that.

I often question why Finale has to change key command on every upgrade
path.  This one is especially illogical to me.

-- 

- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
 


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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Bruce E. Clausen]

Andrew and Christopher, thanks for the replies.  My pages at 100% are 
difficult to read: too small and would be terribly difficult to read from 
the podium.  The score is Winds, Brass, Perc. and harp, solo horn, strings, 
totalling 18 staves, which extend (at 100%) from about 1" (on the ruler) to 
7" on the page.  Seems to have plenty of room for enlargement. 
Nevertheless, on other scores when I've over enlarged, the score merely 
extends too far down the page, sometimes beyond (further down).  I've never 
seen a sizing problem like this where each page is one measure of 
super-enlarged type, which is located on the left side of the page (about 
2"), leaving the remainder of the page (left to right) blank.


BC


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From: "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Size Matters



Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

  I'm attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working 
with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for the 
page


To which I reply (not actually a quotation):

100% is much too *large* for anything except children's teaching 
materials and music for the visually impaired. I normally use 80% for 
performance materials (i.e., extracted parts) but many folks use 75%. For 
scores my default is likewise 80%, but I almost always have to make it 
smaller, sometimes down to 60%


Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Christopher Smith]

Is it possible that there is so much music in the measures that  
normal spacing fills an entire line? I know that sometimes I put the  
lyric "through" onto a sixteenth note and that causes the whole  
measure to expand.


If you had to, you could select a measure in Mass Edit  and hit the  
up arrow to force it onto the previous system. I often manually lay  
out pages like this.


Send me the file privately and I'll take a look, if all else fails.

Christopher


On Aug 22, 2007, at 11:30 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Thanks, everyone.  I had removed system locks and updated layout  
(from page 1), which I should have mentioned.  I redid both  
processes to confirm that I had done them before and the problem  
persists.


Signed,
Perplexed in Palm Springs (Bruce Clausen)


- Original Message - From: "Darcy James Argue"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Size Matters


Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone  
won't  fix it.


- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work  
with  a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.   
I'm  attempting to find the best size for the score on the page,  
working  with % tool. At 100% all is well, but the score is too  
small for  the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or  
so pages are  fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score  
now show up in  one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning  
the score to over  250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page  
locks, etc., but the  problem persists.  When I reset the size to  
100%, the pages return  to the normal number.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Don Hart]

Or shift/update layout (on a mac) will do it in one swoop, I believe. - Don
Hart


> Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't
> fix it.
> 
> - Darcy
> -
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Brooklyn, NY
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:
> 
>> Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with
>> a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm
>> attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working
>> with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for
>> the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are
>> fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in
>> one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over
>> 250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the
>> problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return
>> to the normal number.  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Andrew Stiller]

Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

  I'm attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, 
working with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small 
for the page


To which I reply (not actually a quotation):

100% is much too *large* for anything except children's teaching 
materials and music for the visually impaired. I normally use 80% for 
performance materials (i.e., extracted parts) but many folks use 75%. 
For scores my default is likewise 80%, but I almost always have to 
make it smaller, sometimes down to 60%


Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Bruce E. Clausen]

Thanks, everyone.  I had removed system locks and updated layout (from page 
1), which I should have mentioned.  I redid both processes to confirm that I 
had done them before and the problem persists.


Signed,
Perplexed in Palm Springs (Bruce Clausen)


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From: "Darcy James Argue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Size Matters


Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't  fix 
it.


- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with  a 
score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm  attempting 
to find the best size for the score on the page, working  with % tool. 
At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for  the page.  When I 
enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are  fine, but the last 20 
(original) pages of the score now show up in  one measure pages (one mm. 
to a page) ballooning the score to over  250 pages!  I've removed all 
optimizing, page locks, etc., but the  problem persists.  When I reset 
the size to 100%, the pages return  to the normal number.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Darcy James Argue]

Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't  
fix it.


- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with  
a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm  
attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working  
with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for  
the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are  
fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in  
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over  
250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the  
problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return  
to the normal number.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Carolyn Bremer]

update layout?

-Carolyn

On 8/22/07, Bruce E. Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with a score 
> in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm attempting to find the 
> best size for the score on the page, working with % tool.  At 100% all is 
> well, but the score is too small for the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the 
> first dozen or so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the 
> score now show up in one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the 
> score to over 250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but 
> the problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the 
> normal number.  Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

[Christopher Smith]

On Aug 22, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with  
a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm  
attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working  
with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for  
the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are  
fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in  
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over  
250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the  
problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return  
to the normal number.  Any thoughts?



Make sure System Locks are off (you didn't mention them), respace if  
necessary, then Update Layout, while on an earlier page (because  
Update Layout only applies to the page you are on until the end.)  
Update Layout occurs automatically by default, but sometimes you need  
to do it.


Christopher


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RE: [Finale] Size Matters

[Williams, Jim]

I trust you updated layout?



From: Bruce E. Clausen
Sent: Wed 22-Aug-07 21:48
To: Finale
Subject: [Finale] Size Matters


Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with a score in 
Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm attempting to find the best 
size for the score on the page, working with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but 
the score is too small for the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or 
so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in 
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over 250 pages!  
I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the problem persists.  When 
I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the normal number.  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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[Finale] Size Matters

[Bruce E. Clausen]

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with a score in 
Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm attempting to find the best 
size for the score on the page, working with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but 
the score is too small for the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or 
so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in 
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over 250 pages!  
I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the problem persists.  When 
I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the normal number.  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 woes: daily update

[Christopher Smith]

On Aug 22, 2007, at 6:04 PM, dhbailey wrote:


Christopher Smith wrote:

On Aug 22, 2007, at 6:51 AM, dhbailey wrote:

Christopher Smith wrote:

On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris -

I assume you tried to export WITHOUT including fonts?

Yes, same results.


Could it possibly be the location of your arrowhead?  Have you  
tried placing it somewhere else and exporting that as EPS?


I have no idea if this might help, but it did occur to me that  
perhaps it's the location and not your arrowhead which is the  
problem.


I meant where in the document did you place the smart shape once  
you've created it.  Such as pointing at the start of a staff, or in  
the middle of a staff pointing at a clef change.


It was just a guess.


Ah, I see. No, I have put arrows in all kinds of places, and they  
never work in EPS export. I haven't exhaustively tested every  
possible place, but inside and outside the staff on all four sides  
makes no difference.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 woes: daily update

[dhbailey]

Christopher Smith wrote:


On Aug 22, 2007, at 6:51 AM, dhbailey wrote:


Christopher Smith wrote:

On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris -

I assume you tried to export WITHOUT including fonts?

Yes, same results.


Could it possibly be the location of your arrowhead?  Have you tried 
placing it somewhere else and exporting that as EPS?


I have no idea if this might help, but it did occur to me that perhaps 
it's the location and not your arrowhead which is the problem.



I'm not sure what you mean by location.

I opt-clicked the User button in the Smart Shape palette, selected 
Create in the Smart Line Selector dialogue box, in the Smart Line 
Designer I clicked Custom Arrowhead>Select, then in the Custom Arrowhead 
Selector dialogue box I clicked Create and got a Shape Designer.


When I tried a font character arrowhead, I used a font that resides 
normally in my font library for the entire computer.


Where else would I put it?



I meant where in the document did you place the smart shape once you've 
created it.  Such as pointing at the start of a staff, or in the middle 
of a staff pointing at a clef change.


It was just a guess.

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Re: [Finale] JABB update for K2, Garritan Wiki

[Chuck Israels]

Paul,

Where might the old version be?

I only see the updated one in my applications folder.

TIA,

Chuck


On Aug 22, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Paul Davies wrote:


Chuck
I think you may need to delete the old version of the player from  
your system. I had the same problem until I realised that I had  
both the old and new versions of the Kontakt player. Deleting the  
old version solved the problem.


Regards

Paul Davies


Chuck Israels wrote:

Hi Darcy and other JABB mavens,

I updated JABB, according to instructions and now, when I go to  
load a different instrument in place of one already loaded into a  
document, I get this message: this patch was generated by a newer  
version of Kontakt.  Please upgrade your copy to load the patch.


I know I have the new JABB version, because the Bank where the  
instruments are loaded shows a slightly different configuration,  
and the instrument names are slightly changed to make the choices  
clearer.


What have I failed to do?  Is there  Kontakt player upgrade that  
one must load separately?  The GUI for this stuff is cumbersome,  
to put it mildly.


Thanks,

Chuck


Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
phone (360) 671-3402
fax (360) 676-6055
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Re: [Finale] JABB update for K2, Garritan Wiki

[Chuck Israels]

Thanks Paul,

I'll try to identify the old one and remove it and report the results.

Chuck


On Aug 22, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Paul Davies wrote:


Chuck
I think you may need to delete the old version of the player from  
your system. I had the same problem until I realised that I had  
both the old and new versions of the Kontakt player. Deleting the  
old version solved the problem.


Regards

Paul Davies


Chuck Israels wrote:

Hi Darcy and other JABB mavens,

I updated JABB, according to instructions and now, when I go to  
load a different instrument in place of one already loaded into a  
document, I get this message: this patch was generated by a newer  
version of Kontakt.  Please upgrade your copy to load the patch.


I know I have the new JABB version, because the Bank where the  
instruments are loaded shows a slightly different configuration,  
and the instrument names are slightly changed to make the choices  
clearer.


What have I failed to do?  Is there  Kontakt player upgrade that  
one must load separately?  The GUI for this stuff is cumbersome,  
to put it mildly.


Thanks,

Chuck


Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
phone (360) 671-3402
fax (360) 676-6055
www.chuckisraels.com

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Re: [Finale] JABB update for K2, Garritan Wiki

[Paul Davies]

Chuck
I think you may need to delete the old version of the player from your 
system. I had the same problem until I realised that I had both the old 
and new versions of the Kontakt player. Deleting the old version solved 
the problem.


Regards

Paul Davies


Chuck Israels wrote:

Hi Darcy and other JABB mavens,

I updated JABB, according to instructions and now, when I go to load a 
different instrument in place of one already loaded into a document, I 
get this message: this patch was generated by a newer version of 
Kontakt.  Please upgrade your copy to load the patch.


I know I have the new JABB version, because the Bank where the 
instruments are loaded shows a slightly different configuration, and 
the instrument names are slightly changed to make the choices clearer.


What have I failed to do?  Is there  Kontakt player upgrade that one 
must load separately?  The GUI for this stuff is cumbersome, to put it 
mildly.


Thanks,

Chuck


Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
phone (360) 671-3402
fax (360) 676-6055
www.chuckisraels.com

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Re: [Finale] Magical Rests

[Bruce E. Clausen]

Thanks, everyone, for helping.  I'm embarrased to say that I found the 
problem.  In one of my drafts (score view) the meter change (from 5/4 to 
3/4) somehow dropped out.  The mm. remained visually the same, but when I 
went to edit the ties the problem with the rests occured.  I finally backed 
up the editing to the meter change (20+ mm.) and found that it had dropped 
out.  I have no idea why the dropout, but all is now fixed.  Your help is 
greatly appreciated.

BC


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It can be deceiving but the extra rests are actually in the measure 
*before*

where they appear to be.


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RE: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

[Stu McIntire]

Thanks much, Dennis and Carolyn -

Stu
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Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Stu McIntire wrote:

I would appreciate someone pointing me to a resource that tells how best to
go about getting permission to set a published poem to music, with the
expectation that the resulting piece will be performed and published
eventually, even if just by me.
I'm not sure quite what you mean by a resource, but what you need to do 
is to determine whether the poem is subject to copyright, if it is, then 
to determine the identity of  the copyright administrator or owner, and 
contact the administrator or owner seeking permission. Since you specify 
that the poem has already been published, the first place to start is 
with the copyright and permissions department of the publisher of the 
version you have; they should be able to advise you if they control the 
copyright, or whether it is controlled by another entity, and if it is 
controlled by another entity, the contact information for that entity. 
If there is any doubt or uncertainty in your mind about the work, you 
might want to dig further; I have had the experience of an entity 
claiming copyright when, in fact, they were not entitled to copyright in 
the work; the work was in the public domain.


Keep in mind, to, that permission to reproduce a copyright item, simply 
conveys permission to make a copy of the words of the poem. The issue of 
performing the material, while not entirely unrelated, is a different 
matter, and would involve separate permission.


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Re: [Finale] Magical Rests

[JohnBlane]

It can be deceiving but the extra rests are actually in the measure *before* 
where they appear to be.


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Re: [Finale] Magical Rests

[Christopher Smith]

Bruce,

Have you thought that the magical rests actually belong to the  
PREVIOUS measure? I see that a lot.


I think TG Tools handles tremolos of chords by creating a tuplet  
(say, two half-notes in the space of one) and if you re-enter a  
value, you might end up with more notes than the measure is supposed  
to contain because you accidentally redefined the tuplet. The rests  
created this way would appear to belong to the NEXT measure, pushed  
past the barline.


Christopher


On Aug 22, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Leigh, I tried the Check Durations and it had no effect.  I also  
have deleted the offending mm. and inserted new ones, re-entered  
the notes . . . and the problems recurrs!  I'm stumped!

BC

- Original Message - From: "Leigh Daniels"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Finale List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Magical Rests


Maybe try the "Check Region For Durations" plugin? That might give  
you

more precise information.

**Leigh

On Tue, Aug 21, 2007, Bruce E. Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Another day, another problem.  WinFin06.  I'm cleaning up a draft in
Page View (3/4 time).  Several mm. after a few mm. of TGTools  
tremolos,

I cease tremming and have several mm. of tied dotted halves.  While
cleaning up a couple of extra ties (inner voices) I have acquired  
extra
half rests in the mm. in question.  (Dotted quarter, half rest;  
3/4).  I

can't erase them.  Cntrl-X and re-entering the notes regenerates the
rests.  It looks as though the tremolo selection has leaked over  
into
the non-trem mm., but I don't know for sure.  Any thought from  
anyone?

Help is always appreciated!




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Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Stu McIntire wrote:

I would appreciate someone pointing me to a resource that tells how best to
go about getting permission to set a published poem to music, with the
expectation that the resulting piece will be performed and published
eventually, even if just by me.

Thanks, all -

Stu
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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 broken? Can anyone check for me?

[Darcy James Argue]

Ah. I had forgotten that Word couldn't handle PDFs properly. I use  
Pages myself.


Apple just released Pages '08 (part of iWork '08), so you should be  
able to activate another 30-day trial. But it's only $80 (for the  
entire iWork suite) so you might as well just buy it, so you won't  
have to mess around with Word.


Cheers,

- Darcy
-
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On 22 Aug 2007, at 10:00 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:



On Aug 22, 2007, at 5:23 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Can't you crop the PS in Preview, using the Marquee tool and then  
the Crop button?


And I'm probably missing something crucial here, but why are you  
bothering with EPS at all? If you're trying to place Finale  
examples in a Word file, can't you just print to PDF crop what you  
need, then place the cropped PDF? This works for me -- I haven't  
needed or wanted EPS in years. Perhaps there's some reason why  
this won't work for you, though.


In Word for Mac 2004 (the version I have) an imported PDF prints  
with the screen resolution, antialiasing and all, slightly fuzzy  
outlines, etc. I was hoping for the razor-sharp music examples I  
get with EPS in AppleWorks or Word.


Actually, in Pages (the new program that more or less replaced  
AppleWorks) PDFs import beautifully and there is a lot more control  
over style and spacing, but I would have to buy it, as my 30-day  
trial is expiring soon. I would also have to learn it, and I do  
know AppleWorks inside out, which helps for this fussy stuff.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Magical Rests

[Bruce E. Clausen]

Leigh, I tried the Check Durations and it had no effect.  I also have 
deleted the offending mm. and inserted new ones, re-entered the notes . . . 
and the problems recurrs!  I'm stumped!

BC

- Original Message - 
From: "Leigh Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Finale List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Magical Rests



Maybe try the "Check Region For Durations" plugin? That might give you
more precise information.

**Leigh

On Tue, Aug 21, 2007, Bruce E. Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Another day, another problem.  WinFin06.  I'm cleaning up a draft in
Page View (3/4 time).  Several mm. after a few mm. of TGTools tremolos,
I cease tremming and have several mm. of tied dotted halves.  While
cleaning up a couple of extra ties (inner voices) I have acquired extra
half rests in the mm. in question.  (Dotted quarter, half rest; 3/4).  I
can't erase them.  Cntrl-X and re-entering the notes regenerates the
rests.  It looks as though the tremolo selection has leaked over into
the non-trem mm., but I don't know for sure.  Any thought from anyone?
Help is always appreciated!




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Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

At 10:44 AM 8/22/2007 -0400, Stu McIntire wrote:
>I would appreciate someone pointing me to a resource that tells how best to
>go about getting permission to set a published poem to music

Best starter article:
http://www.newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=4576

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

[Carolyn Bremer]

Stu:

You need to contact the copyright holder of the poem.

Send a letter stating your request and intended outcome. It can help
to send a short resume so they know better who you are.

I've had no difficulty in securing permission, particularly from
living poets, when I tell them just how much money there is to be made
 and offer to send them a CD of the premiere. Plus, they get half
of your BMI or ASCAP royalties! 

-Carolyn



On 8/22/07, Stu McIntire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would appreciate someone pointing me to a resource that tells how best to
> go about getting permission to set a published poem to music, with the
> expectation that the resulting piece will be performed and published
> eventually, even if just by me.
>
> Thanks, all -
>
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[Finale] OT permission to set poems

[Stu McIntire]

I would appreciate someone pointing me to a resource that tells how best to
go about getting permission to set a published poem to music, with the
expectation that the resulting piece will be performed and published
eventually, even if just by me.

Thanks, all -

Stu
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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 broken? Can anyone check for me?

[Christopher Smith]

On Aug 22, 2007, at 5:23 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Can't you crop the PS in Preview, using the Marquee tool and then  
the Crop button?


And I'm probably missing something crucial here, but why are you  
bothering with EPS at all? If you're trying to place Finale  
examples in a Word file, can't you just print to PDF crop what you  
need, then place the cropped PDF? This works for me -- I haven't  
needed or wanted EPS in years. Perhaps there's some reason why this  
won't work for you, though.


In Word for Mac 2004 (the version I have) an imported PDF prints with  
the screen resolution, antialiasing and all, slightly fuzzy outlines,  
etc. I was hoping for the razor-sharp music examples I get with EPS  
in AppleWorks or Word.


Actually, in Pages (the new program that more or less replaced  
AppleWorks) PDFs import beautifully and there is a lot more control  
over style and spacing, but I would have to buy it, as my 30-day  
trial is expiring soon. I would also have to learn it, and I do know  
AppleWorks inside out, which helps for this fussy stuff.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 woes: daily update

[Christopher Smith]

On Aug 22, 2007, at 6:51 AM, dhbailey wrote:


Christopher Smith wrote:

On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris -

I assume you tried to export WITHOUT including fonts?

Yes, same results.


Could it possibly be the location of your arrowhead?  Have you  
tried placing it somewhere else and exporting that as EPS?


I have no idea if this might help, but it did occur to me that  
perhaps it's the location and not your arrowhead which is the problem.



I'm not sure what you mean by location.

I opt-clicked the User button in the Smart Shape palette, selected  
Create in the Smart Line Selector dialogue box, in the Smart Line  
Designer I clicked Custom Arrowhead>Select, then in the Custom  
Arrowhead Selector dialogue box I clicked Create and got a Shape  
Designer.


When I tried a font character arrowhead, I used a font that resides  
normally in my font library for the entire computer.


Where else would I put it?

Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Magical Rests

[Leigh Daniels]

Maybe try the "Check Region For Durations" plugin? That might give you
more precise information.

**Leigh

On Tue, Aug 21, 2007, Bruce E. Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Another day, another problem.  WinFin06.  I'm cleaning up a draft in
>Page View (3/4 time).  Several mm. after a few mm. of TGTools tremolos,
>I cease tremming and have several mm. of tied dotted halves.  While
>cleaning up a couple of extra ties (inner voices) I have acquired extra
>half rests in the mm. in question.  (Dotted quarter, half rest; 3/4).  I
>can't erase them.  Cntrl-X and re-entering the notes regenerates the
>rests.  It looks as though the tremolo selection has leaked over into
>the non-trem mm., but I don't know for sure.  Any thought from anyone? 
>Help is always appreciated!
>


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[Finale] Magical Rests

[Bruce E. Clausen]

Another day, another problem.  WinFin06.  I'm cleaning up a draft in Page View 
(3/4 time).  Several mm. after a few mm. of TGTools tremolos, I cease tremming 
and have several mm. of tied dotted halves.  While cleaning up a couple of 
extra ties (inner voices) I have acquired extra half rests in the mm. in 
question.  (Dotted quarter, half rest; 3/4).  I can't erase them.  Cntrl-X and 
re-entering the notes regenerates the rests.  It looks as though the tremolo 
selection has leaked over into the non-trem mm., but I don't know for sure.  
Any thought from anyone?  Help is always appreciated!

Bruce Clausen
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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 woes: daily update

[dhbailey]

Christopher Smith wrote:


On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Chris -

I assume you tried to export WITHOUT including fonts?


Yes, same results.



Could it possibly be the location of your arrowhead?  Have you tried 
placing it somewhere else and exporting that as EPS?


I have no idea if this might help, but it did occur to me that perhaps 
it's the location and not your arrowhead which is the problem.


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Re: [Finale] EPS in FinMac 2008 broken? Can anyone check for me?

[Darcy James Argue]

Can't you crop the PS in Preview, using the Marquee tool and then the  
Crop button?


And I'm probably missing something crucial here, but why are you  
bothering with EPS at all? If you're trying to place Finale examples  
in a Word file, can't you just print to PDF crop what you need, then  
place the cropped PDF? This works for me -- I haven't needed or  
wanted EPS in years. Perhaps there's some reason why this won't work  
for you, though.


Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY



On 20 Aug 2007, at 9:56 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:



On Aug 20, 2007, at 3:50 AM, dc wrote:


Christopher Smith écrit:

Anyone have any success with EPS exportation from 2008, Mac version?
Any ideas of things I might not know about to get it to work?


Well, we have a long experience with EPS on Windows, since it was  
broken for years and years (at least since 2000), and was never  
fixed for Win2000. So when I needed EPS files I printed to PDF and  
extracted the EPS from the PDF files. Couldn't you do the same?



Hmm, this seems interesting, and it's only an extra couple of steps.

But how do I get a PS file that is only the size of one staff? I  
can get full-page PS files no problem. In other words, how do I  
crop a PS?


Christopher




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