Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5
Dennis - The fine print on the October half-off offer is: North/Central/South America: Offer only available to Finale, Encore, Mosaic and Sibelius Student Edition users residing within North, Central and South America (Allegro, PrintMusic, Finale Guitar, etc. are not eligible). I should have mentioned this in my first post. Apologies. The notice for the offer is on the home page of Sib. http://www.sibelius.com/home/index_flash.html BC From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu; Finale finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 Bruce E. Clausen écrit: I finally decided to take the plunge and invest in Sibelius 5. I may later decide that Finale is the better program, but for now I want to compare. As you may know, Sib5 is available to Finale users in a $199 Competitive Upgrade. The good news for me was that this month, October, Sib is offering the upgrade for half price, $99. So instead of buying the Fin08 upgrade I have invested in Sib. I don't think the terms will get any better. I'm still a little worried that this is a case of the grass being greener, but at this price I don't think I'll get clipped. Hi Bruce, Where did you find this offer? I just wrote to Sibelius to ask why the prices were so much higher in Europe, and got the following reply. Which means that anyone could ship to Europe if they want to, since Sibelius admits that they can't enforce this dubious policy. In answer to your question regarding price difference between the USA and Europe, we have to price our products taking into consideration the price of our competitors over which we have no control. As software along with nearly everything else is significantly cheaper in the US we have to adjust our price accordingly, this is simply economic fact. In addition higher local prices in the UK (from everything from rent to salaries) mean that it costs businesses more to operate here than in the USA. Sibelius USA only ships to addresses in the US but we cannot enforce such regulations on our various US dealers who are free to ship overseas if they wish. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5
Robert - I will definitely keep the list up to date on my experience with Sib. I notice from your website that you are a horn player, too. All of my playing was in California before I retired the horn. Do you know Cal Smith? BC - Original Message - From: Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 5 Bruce E. Clausen wrote: I finally decided to take the plunge and invest in Sibelius 5. I hope you will keep us informed on your progress. Especially what you like and dislike as compared with Finale. -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Sibelius 5
I finally decided to take the plunge and invest in Sibelius 5. I may later decide that Finale is the better program, but for now I want to compare. As you may know, Sib5 is available to Finale users in a $199 Competitive Upgrade. The good news for me was that this month, October, Sib is offering the upgrade for half price, $99. So instead of buying the Fin08 upgrade I have invested in Sib. I don't think the terms will get any better. I'm still a little worried that this is a case of the grass being greener, but at this price I don't think I'll get clipped. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fixed Fonts
Hi, all. I just started working with the plugin for tempo markings and I've discovered again something I was unaware of: fixed fonts. I've tried to find information on these in the manual/tutorial/online with no luck. What's the difference between fixed fonts and regular? Any pitfalls? Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Recorder in Wizard of Oz
I've always heard that instrument in Oz/Brain as an ocarina. Sure it's a recorder? Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Patrick Sheehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Recorder in Wizard of Oz It's true that it's played on a piccolo in the traditional pit orchestras of today; I conducted it a few years ago and had my flutist put on her picclist hat for those moments. I don't argue that a soprano recorder should be used, but it may not carry if your orchestra is (as it should be) IN the pit, not backstage or wherever-else. Flutists who are not very verse on recorders would have a tendency to crack on the notes, as well. Luckily the tune is in F, and the dotted / triplet figure that is so famous doesn't contain any accidentals, so it lays easy on the instrument. - Original Message - From: Guy Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [Finale] Recorder in Wizard of Oz When I prepared this show a few years back I was fortunate to have a flute player who also played soprano recorder. The effect was wonderful! If you listen carefully to the movie you will hear the recorder, not a piccolo, and not a flute. The passage in question is in If I Only Had A Brain. Guy Hayden -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Howell Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:55 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] alto as tenor? (BIG snip) In the Broadway score of The Wizard of Oz there is a brief passage marked Recorder in one of the reed books. It apparently means soprano recorder, but it is notated at pitch with multiple ledger lines, and is normally (perhaps always!) played on piccolo rather than recorder. John -- John R. Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rest breaks
Try Mass EditClear Items on the mm. in question, then create the multimeasure rest. I had the same problem last week. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Jeff Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:57 PM Subject: [Finale] Multimeasure rest breaks Hey everyone I've got a part in the score that has 4 measures of rest, two are before a System Expression rehearsal mark, 2 measures after the rehearsal mark. Finale was converting it into a 4 bar multimeasure rest, so I used the measure tool to put in a break in the multimeasure rest. Now though, it makes it a multimeasure rest for 2 bars, Rehearsal mark, then 2 bars of whole rests. I've tried selecting the two bars and doing the multimeasure, create popup with the selection tool, updating the layout, and extracting the part but nothing makes a difference. Any suggestions on this? (Finale 2008) Thanks. Jeff ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] temporarily unsubscribing
Wish him the best from the List. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:24 PM Subject: [Finale] temporarily unsubscribing Hi, My husband, Andrew Stiller, is in the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania again with heart trouble. So many hospitalizations this year that I can't quite remember, 3 or 4. He wants me to temporarily suspend his Finale E mail. I thought I remembered his password, but it seems I do not. Please temporarily suspend his participation in the list until he returns home. Sincerely, Ernestine Steiner (Andrew's wife) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Creating Multimeasure Rests
I'm working with extracted parts (WinFin06c). In several parts I'm trying to convert a few measures rest into a multimeasure rest, which I have done successfully in many other parts. However, something is preventing the operation. In Measure Tool I select the mm. and select Multimeasure RestsCreate and nothing happens. I have tried converting the rests to real whole rests, but again nothing. Any suggestions? I'm sure that this is something simple . . . it always is. Thanks, Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Creating Multimeasure Rests
Jim, I should have been more clear. I'm attempting to create MM rests in extracted parts when the Create MM Rests command didn't do the job in extraction. I've discovered that when the rests aren't properly created during extraction there is probably some old expression that didn't get cleared. When I select the mm. and run Clear Items I am then able to go back and rectify the MM rests. It's always something! Thanks for your input. Help is always appreciated. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:32 AM Subject: RE: [Finale] Creating Multimeasure Rests Bruce~ What isn't clear to me is why you have to create the mm rests for parts in the first place. It should be done as a default. Are you overriding what's being done, or is nothing being done? If you go to FILEEXTRACT PARTSMULTIMEASURE RESTS, what is(n't) checked?? There may be some symbol that has extracted that breaks the mm rest, but hard to say without seeing. From: Bruce E. Clausen Sent: Sun 09-Sep-07 23:39 To: Finale Subject: [Finale] Creating Multimeasure Rests I'm working with extracted parts (WinFin06c). In several parts I'm trying to convert a few measures rest into a multimeasure rest, which I have done successfully in many other parts. However, something is preventing the operation. In Measure Tool I select the mm. and select Multimeasure RestsCreate and nothing happens. I have tried converting the rests to real whole rests, but again nothing. Any suggestions? I'm sure that this is something simple . . . it always is. Thanks, Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Creating Multimeasure Rests
Tried that. Solved the problem by Items to be Cleared and clearing the m., then redoing the rest. All is OK. Thanks for the reply. BC - Original Message - From: Giz Bowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Creating Multimeasure Rests You might try selecting the measures, BREAK the Multimeasure rest (I know, just humor me), then try to create it again. Won't hurt to try, and I've had success with this in some instances. Giz At 01:40 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: Jim, I should have been more clear. I'm attempting to create MM rests in extracted parts when the Create MM Rests command didn't do the job in extraction. I've discovered that when the rests aren't properly created during extraction there is probably some old expression that didn't get cleared. When I select the mm. and run Clear Items I am then able to go back and rectify the MM rests. It's always something! Thanks for your input. Help is always appreciated. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: 9/9/2007 10:17 AM ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Help with English
Me, too. We are engraving with our digits. BC - Original Message - From: Richard Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Help with English I like that one... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A-NO-NE Music Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:34 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Help with English dhbailey / 07.9.10 / 8:17 AM wrote: Music computer-engraved by Johannes Gebauer I would say Music digitally engraved by Johannes Gebauer -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.13/998 - Release Date: 9/10/2007 8:48 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.13/998 - Release Date: 9/10/2007 8:48 AM ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Multimeasure Rests
Solved my problem. Mirable dictu. Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] alto as tenor?
This is not my area of expertise, but doesn't gleichschwebende mean equal temperament, rather than wohltemperiertes, which is an unequal system? So would Bach really wish an equal system? Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] alto as tenor? And another Bach question: how often did he want equal temperament and have to settle for anything but? Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Size
Thanks, Vern. I tried the parameters and Redefine suggestions, but not before I performed File Maintenance (a feature I was unaware of). FM cleared up the layout problem and your suggestions returned all to normal. Thanks for the help. Still a lot to learn. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size If all else fails, go to the menu where you set up the Page Layout for Parts/Score (not under the File menu; I'm at work and can't remember which menu this falls under; it's the same one as you find Document Options), set all the parameters for the Score, then peform a Redefine All Pages which will wipe out all the existing page layout info (excepting any System Locks, which it will retain.) Then, do an Update, and hopefully, you will have the solution. Hi, Christopher. I've tried the (Adjust) Edit Systems fix (WinFin06' XP) you recommended but it has not worked, alas. I've noticed that on the problem pages the system handles extend well beyond the bottom of the page to about 32. I can't find a way to click/drag/edit/cajole/threaten the handles back into place. All of this takes place on systems 34-54. System 33, as you suggested, was used to edit through the end of the piece but to no avail. I'm sure it's something I've screwed up inadvertantly. Thanks for your patience and help. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size On Aug 23, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Another version of yesterday's problem. Regarding yesterday, I had to re-adjust the right system margins page by page, but at least I got things back to normal. Ooh, you don't have to do it individually! If you select Adjust System Margins from the Page Layout menu, then click on a system you like the settings for, then in the Adjust System Margins window select from [insert system number] to _ [leave it blank to go to the end of the document] and hit Apply. All the systems will inherit the settings of the one you first clicked on. If you only want some settings applied, then make sure only those boxes are checked. However, if I try to adjust the pages with % Tool the measures of the final pages again are grossly oversized. I STRONGLY suggest that you don't use the % tool for resizing pages. Use the tool to resize systems instead, by clicking between the clefs of two staves. This will preserve the size and position of all your titles and other page-attached stuff, and greatly simplify your life in other ways. there are 4 ways to use the % tool 1. click a note to resize it. 2 click a staff (usually on the clef) to resize it 3 click between the clefs of two staves in the same system to resize the system USE THIS ONE 4 click in the margin of a page to resize it. You often get a dialogue box asking you the range you want to resize. Leave the second field blank to go to the end of the document. I can't seem to find a fix. I have a hunch that the problem relates to the fact that the complete score file was put together from three smaller files for the individual movements. Yes, all the original settings were preserved when you glued the works together. But, I have no idea how to fix it. See my advice about resizing system margins and the resize tool. Two steps to make your entire score the same top to bottom. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] RE: Size
Another version of yesterday's problem. Regarding yesterday, I had to re-adjust the right system margins page by page, but at least I got things back to normal. However, if I try to adjust the pages with % Tool the measures of the final pages again are grossly oversized. I can't seem to find a fix. I have a hunch that the problem relates to the fact that the complete score file was put together from three smaller files for the individual movements. But, I have no idea how to fix it. Any ideas out there? Thanks in advance. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Size
Hi, Christopher. I've tried the (Adjust) Edit Systems fix (WinFin06' XP) you recommended but it has not worked, alas. I've noticed that on the problem pages the system handles extend well beyond the bottom of the page to about 32. I can't find a way to click/drag/edit/cajole/threaten the handles back into place. All of this takes place on systems 34-54. System 33, as you suggested, was used to edit through the end of the piece but to no avail. I'm sure it's something I've screwed up inadvertantly. Thanks for your patience and help. Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size On Aug 23, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Another version of yesterday's problem. Regarding yesterday, I had to re-adjust the right system margins page by page, but at least I got things back to normal. Ooh, you don't have to do it individually! If you select Adjust System Margins from the Page Layout menu, then click on a system you like the settings for, then in the Adjust System Margins window select from [insert system number] to _ [leave it blank to go to the end of the document] and hit Apply. All the systems will inherit the settings of the one you first clicked on. If you only want some settings applied, then make sure only those boxes are checked. However, if I try to adjust the pages with % Tool the measures of the final pages again are grossly oversized. I STRONGLY suggest that you don't use the % tool for resizing pages. Use the tool to resize systems instead, by clicking between the clefs of two staves. This will preserve the size and position of all your titles and other page-attached stuff, and greatly simplify your life in other ways. there are 4 ways to use the % tool 1. click a note to resize it. 2 click a staff (usually on the clef) to resize it 3 click between the clefs of two staves in the same system to resize the system USE THIS ONE 4 click in the margin of a page to resize it. You often get a dialogue box asking you the range you want to resize. Leave the second field blank to go to the end of the document. I can't seem to find a fix. I have a hunch that the problem relates to the fact that the complete score file was put together from three smaller files for the individual movements. Yes, all the original settings were preserved when you glued the works together. But, I have no idea how to fix it. See my advice about resizing system margins and the resize tool. Two steps to make your entire score the same top to bottom. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Size
Christopher, I just got a bounceback message from the list. The reply with my file is being held, waiting for approval because of its size. With any luck, you'll get it tomorrow. BC - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Hi, Christopher. I've tried the (Adjust) Edit Systems fix (WinFin06' XP) you recommended but it has not worked, alas. I've noticed that on the problem pages the system handles extend well beyond the bottom of the page to about 32. I can't find a way to click/drag/edit/cajole/threaten the handles back into place. All of this takes place on systems 34-54. System 33, as you suggested, was used to edit through the end of the piece but to no avail. I'm sure it's something I've screwed up inadvertantly. Thanks for your patience and help. Bruce Clausen Bruce, None of this is a fatal problem. I quote from before If you select Adjust System Margins from the Page Layout menu, then click on a system you like the settings for, then in the Adjust System Margins window select from [insert system number] to _ [leave it blank to go to the end of the document] and hit Apply. All the systems will inherit the settings of the one you first clicked on. If you only want some settings applied, then make sure only those boxes are checked. In this box you can also MANUALLY put in values for each of the margins. Plus is right or up, negative is left or down, all values calculated from the staff lines. All you have to do is click the system, select Adjust System Margins, then enter a value like 0 for the bottom system margin, hit Apply. If you say Apply to Systems 34 through [blank] it will make this adjustment for every system from 34 to the end. Then all the bottom handles will all be nestled tightly against the bottom right-hand staff of each system. This is very powerful stuff, and you have to know it. Look up in the manual under Adjust System Margins. You won't be sorry. If this doesn't work you might have file corruption. Send me the file privately and I will take a look. Don't worry, I am not in the habit of stealing people's works and passing them off as my own. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Size
Thanks, Christopher. I have indeed consulted both the manual and tutorial, neither of which is a model of clarity. Perhaps this is my problem, more than theirs. I try not to consult the list without having first done these things. I am grateful for your help and will review and use your suggestions herein. I have no problem with sending you the file if it comes to that. Perhaps tomorrow, if I don't resolve the issue tonight. Thanks again, Bruce - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Hi, Christopher. I've tried the (Adjust) Edit Systems fix (WinFin06' XP) you recommended but it has not worked, alas. I've noticed that on the problem pages the system handles extend well beyond the bottom of the page to about 32. I can't find a way to click/drag/edit/cajole/threaten the handles back into place. All of this takes place on systems 34-54. System 33, as you suggested, was used to edit through the end of the piece but to no avail. I'm sure it's something I've screwed up inadvertantly. Thanks for your patience and help. Bruce Clausen Bruce, None of this is a fatal problem. I quote from before If you select Adjust System Margins from the Page Layout menu, then click on a system you like the settings for, then in the Adjust System Margins window select from [insert system number] to _ [leave it blank to go to the end of the document] and hit Apply. All the systems will inherit the settings of the one you first clicked on. If you only want some settings applied, then make sure only those boxes are checked. In this box you can also MANUALLY put in values for each of the margins. Plus is right or up, negative is left or down, all values calculated from the staff lines. All you have to do is click the system, select Adjust System Margins, then enter a value like 0 for the bottom system margin, hit Apply. If you say Apply to Systems 34 through [blank] it will make this adjustment for every system from 34 to the end. Then all the bottom handles will all be nestled tightly against the bottom right-hand staff of each system. This is very powerful stuff, and you have to know it. Look up in the manual under Adjust System Margins. You won't be sorry. If this doesn't work you might have file corruption. Send me the file privately and I will take a look. Don't worry, I am not in the habit of stealing people's works and passing them off as my own. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Size
Thanks, Darcy. BC - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size Bruce, The list doesn't accept attachments. You should send the file to CHRISTOPHER'S email, not the listserv email. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 23 Aug 2007, at 11:50 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Christopher, I just got a bounceback message from the list. The reply with my file is being held, waiting for approval because of its size. With any luck, you'll get it tomorrow. BC - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Hi, Christopher. I've tried the (Adjust) Edit Systems fix (WinFin06' XP) you recommended but it has not worked, alas. I've noticed that on the problem pages the system handles extend well beyond the bottom of the page to about 32. I can't find a way to click/drag/edit/cajole/threaten the handles back into place. All of this takes place on systems 34-54. System 33, as you suggested, was used to edit through the end of the piece but to no avail. I'm sure it's something I've screwed up inadvertantly. Thanks for your patience and help. Bruce Clausen Bruce, None of this is a fatal problem. I quote from before If you select Adjust System Margins from the Page Layout menu, then click on a system you like the settings for, then in the Adjust System Margins window select from [insert system number] to _ [leave it blank to go to the end of the document] and hit Apply. All the systems will inherit the settings of the one you first clicked on. If you only want some settings applied, then make sure only those boxes are checked. In this box you can also MANUALLY put in values for each of the margins. Plus is right or up, negative is left or down, all values calculated from the staff lines. All you have to do is click the system, select Adjust System Margins, then enter a value like 0 for the bottom system margin, hit Apply. If you say Apply to Systems 34 through [blank] it will make this adjustment for every system from 34 to the end. Then all the bottom handles will all be nestled tightly against the bottom right-hand staff of each system. This is very powerful stuff, and you have to know it. Look up in the manual under Adjust System Margins. You won't be sorry. If this doesn't work you might have file corruption. Send me the file privately and I will take a look. Don't worry, I am not in the habit of stealing people's works and passing them off as my own. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: Size
Negative. I've been trying to edit score pages. BC - Original Message - From: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] RE: Size Bruce... I've been away from this for a while...did you say you used the % tool to control view? In scroll mode? Jim From: Bruce E. Clausen Sent: Fri 24-Aug-07 0:13 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size Thanks, Darcy. BC - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size Bruce, The list doesn't accept attachments. You should send the file to CHRISTOPHER'S email, not the listserv email. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 23 Aug 2007, at 11:50 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Christopher, I just got a bounceback message from the list. The reply with my file is being held, waiting for approval because of its size. With any luck, you'll get it tomorrow. BC - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: Size On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Hi, Christopher. I've tried the (Adjust) Edit Systems fix (WinFin06' XP) you recommended but it has not worked, alas. I've noticed that on the problem pages the system handles extend well beyond the bottom of the page to about 32. I can't find a way to click/drag/edit/cajole/threaten the handles back into place. All of this takes place on systems 34-54. System 33, as you suggested, was used to edit through the end of the piece but to no avail. I'm sure it's something I've screwed up inadvertantly. Thanks for your patience and help. Bruce Clausen Bruce, None of this is a fatal problem. I quote from before If you select Adjust System Margins from the Page Layout menu, then click on a system you like the settings for, then in the Adjust System Margins window select from [insert system number] to _ [leave it blank to go to the end of the document] and hit Apply. All the systems will inherit the settings of the one you first clicked on. If you only want some settings applied, then make sure only those boxes are checked. In this box you can also MANUALLY put in values for each of the margins. Plus is right or up, negative is left or down, all values calculated from the staff lines. All you have to do is click the system, select Adjust System Margins, then enter a value like 0 for the bottom system margin, hit Apply. If you say Apply to Systems 34 through [blank] it will make this adjustment for every system from 34 to the end. Then all the bottom handles will all be nestled tightly against the bottom right-hand staff of each system. This is very powerful stuff, and you have to know it. Look up in the manual under Adjust System Margins. You won't be sorry. If this doesn't work you might have file corruption. Send me the file privately and I will take a look. Don't worry, I am not in the habit of stealing people's works and passing them off as my own. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Magical Rests
Another day, another problem. WinFin06. I'm cleaning up a draft in Page View (3/4 time). Several mm. after a few mm. of TGTools tremolos, I cease tremming and have several mm. of tied dotted halves. While cleaning up a couple of extra ties (inner voices) I have acquired extra half rests in the mm. in question. (Dotted quarter, half rest; 3/4). I can't erase them. Cntrl-X and re-entering the notes regenerates the rests. It looks as though the tremolo selection has leaked over into the non-trem mm., but I don't know for sure. Any thought from anyone? Help is always appreciated! Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Magical Rests
Leigh, I tried the Check Durations and it had no effect. I also have deleted the offending mm. and inserted new ones, re-entered the notes . . . and the problems recurrs! I'm stumped! BC - Original Message - From: Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Magical Rests Maybe try the Check Region For Durations plugin? That might give you more precise information. **Leigh On Tue, Aug 21, 2007, Bruce E. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another day, another problem. WinFin06. I'm cleaning up a draft in Page View (3/4 time). Several mm. after a few mm. of TGTools tremolos, I cease tremming and have several mm. of tied dotted halves. While cleaning up a couple of extra ties (inner voices) I have acquired extra half rests in the mm. in question. (Dotted quarter, half rest; 3/4). I can't erase them. Cntrl-X and re-entering the notes regenerates the rests. It looks as though the tremolo selection has leaked over into the non-trem mm., but I don't know for sure. Any thought from anyone? Help is always appreciated! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Magical Rests
Thanks, everyone, for helping. I'm embarrased to say that I found the problem. In one of my drafts (score view) the meter change (from 5/4 to 3/4) somehow dropped out. The mm. remained visually the same, but when I went to edit the ties the problem with the rests occured. I finally backed up the editing to the meter change (20+ mm.) and found that it had dropped out. I have no idea why the dropout, but all is now fixed. Your help is greatly appreciated. BC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Magical Rests It can be deceiving but the extra rests are actually in the measure *before* where they appear to be. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Size Matters
Another interesting problem. WinFin06. I'm beggining to work with a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll. I'm attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working with % tool. At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for the page. When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over 250 pages! I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the problem persists. When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the normal number. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Size Matters
Thanks, everyone. I had removed system locks and updated layout (from page 1), which I should have mentioned. I redid both processes to confirm that I had done them before and the problem persists. Signed, Perplexed in Palm Springs (Bruce Clausen) - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Size Matters Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't fix it. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Another interesting problem. WinFin06. I'm beggining to work with a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll. I'm attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working with % tool. At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for the page. When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over 250 pages! I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the problem persists. When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the normal number. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Insertion
Another problem (WinFin06c)! I'm attempting to insert 43 mm. on the front of a file. The insertion mm. switch meters frequently and are not in the meter of the subsequent section. I've inserted the 43 mm. but when I try to change the meters in the insertion to map out the insertion mm. to receive the copy, the following mm. (5/4) change to the new meter (2/4). Then, if I attempt to change the original 5/4 mm. back to 5/4 I end up with extra mm. or beats. Is there some way I can lock the main section in 5/4 so that any insertion doesn't change the meter? Or any other fix? Thanks for any help. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Insertion
Thanks Caroline and Christopher! All's well with the world again. (Until the next thing I find I don't know!!) Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Insertion On Aug 14, 2007, at 12:26 AM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Another problem (WinFin06c)! I'm attempting to insert 43 mm. on the front of a file. The insertion mm. switch meters frequently and are not in the meter of the subsequent section. I've inserted the 43 mm. but when I try to change the meters in the insertion to map out the insertion mm. to receive the copy, the following mm. (5/4) change to the new meter (2/4). Then, if I attempt to change the original 5/4 mm. back to 5/4 I end up with extra mm. or beats. Is there some way I can lock the main section in 5/4 so that any insertion doesn't change the meter? Or any other fix? Thanks for any help. There are a couple of ways to use the Time Sig tool for this. I suspect that you aren't setting the region, or you are leaving Rebar Music checked. Method 1. After inserting the measures, select the Time Sig tool and double- click measure 1 In the dialogue box, select 2/4, and make sure the Measure Region is selected and fill in 1 though 43. Make sure Rebar Music is UNselected. Hit OK. You now have 43 measures of 2/4, stopping at the end of measure 43, where the time signature should change to 5/4 with no music being switched around. Method 2. Select the measures you want to change time sig for, then right-click the selected passage and choose 2/4. Rebar is never done for blank measures. Hope this helps. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Note Spacing
Jim - Yes, I have Auto Update Layout turned on. BC - Original Message - From: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Note Spacing Sounds like a case for update layout. CTRL+U. Do you have auto update layout turned on? Jim From: Bruce E. Clausen Sent: Tue 14-Aug-07 18:10 To: Finale Subject: [Finale] Note Spacing WinFin06c: I'm working with some measures (horn piano; 3/4) where the dotted quarter in the horn part seems to constrict the six 8ths in the piano (they are cramped within the measure). The same problem when the piano has dotted quarter (pair) tremolos and the 8ths in the horn part become cramped. I can respace the notes with the Note Position tool easily enough. Is there a quicker way to make a mass edit (there are many such measures), rather than spacing one note at a time? Thanks. Bruce E. Clausen PS Everyone who has responded to my previous cries for help has been great! Your time and expertise are greatly appreciated. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Note Spacing
Thanks, Aaron. Works like a charm! BC (still a lot to learn) - Original Message - From: Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu; Finale finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Note Spacing At 06:10 PM 8/14/2007, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: WinFin06c: I'm working with some measures (horn piano; 3/4) where the dotted quarter in the horn part seems to constrict the six 8ths in the piano (they are cramped within the measure). The same problem when the piano has dotted quarter (pair) tremolos and the 8ths in the horn part become cramped. I can respace the notes with the Note Position tool easily enough. Is there a quicker way to make a mass edit (there are many such measures), rather than spacing one note at a time? Thanks. Silly question, but have you tried re-applying note spacing? Select the measures with the Mass Edit tool and press '4'. Make sure you select the measures in *all* staves. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mass Mover/Copy
I've been working all day on a score (WinFin06c) and in the last hour I can't seem to copy measures as before. Nothing. I've checked Layers, turned off and on the computer, etc. One thing: I did download the Fin08 demo this afternoon and tried it for a while. Would this have anything to do with the problem? Any help is appreciated. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mass Mover/Copy
Christopher - I just got off the phone with Tech Support. I had inadvertantly clicked off some things in Items to Copy in the Mass Mover menu. All is well again. Operator error! BC - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Mass Mover/Copy On Aug 8, 2007, at 7:39 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:13 AM 8/8/2007, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: I've been working all day on a score (WinFin06c) and in the last hour I can't seem to copy measures as before. Nothing. I've checked Layers, turned off and on the computer, etc. One thing: I did download the Fin08 demo this afternoon and tried it for a while. Would this have anything to do with the problem? It shouldn't have -- I have Fin07 and Fin08 (Windows) both installed on my computer with no problem. When I switch between FinMac07 and FinMac08 my MIDI setup gets trashed each time. I haven't tracked it down yet. So there might be something there. Or maybe the file just got corrupted. When that happens I can usually copy the contents to another file and keep going, but wait a minute... that's what your problem is, so it won't help so much. Send me the file with instructions on what you can't do exactly and I'll see it works on my system. If I can't get it to work, then I would make a tech call if I were you. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime
Personally, I've always heard Turkey in the Straw in the New World first movement! BC - Original Message - From: Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Brahms, Dvorak and Ragtime When I was young, I was certain that the ending of the New World symphony was boogie-woogie. Anachronistic of course, but it is now generally accepted that D. really did make use of music he heard from the Fiske Jubilee Singers, at least as a model. As to conjectures abt. how ragtime might have fared at the hands of various 19th-c. masters, I thing the closest we'll ever come is Borodin, who is known to have been influenced by Gottschalk in _Prince Igor_ Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Goodbye Finale
Thanks, David. I have indeed tried the list and the demo. Because I use Simple Entry, as I said, Sib5 didn't seem so foreign. Also, call it petty, as a composer, I resent having to work around having to use key signatures. Though my work is tonal, it is highly chromatic and sigs are annoying. Further, as a horn player, I find it disconcerting to put things into a C score to work around. Is it so difficult for MM to add no key/atonal to the choices? As a composer I also like Sib's Ideas folder and the ease with which I can jot (so to speak) a sketch and file it for later. Fin has no such convenience. It's all these little things, and MM's reluctance to change, that have made my decision. It may be that MM is happy with the education market and has no intention of accomodating the professional composer/engraver. Else why would they be so unconcerned? Simply the volume of negative remarks on this list should be worrying someone at MM, but I see no reply from them as yet. MM is well on the way to becoming the FEMA of music engraving! Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Goodbye Finale Bruce Clausen wrote: I've been pondering whether to get the Finale 08 or Sib5. After seeing the remarks of the past few days I believe I will invest in the Sib and see how it goes. I've always used Simple Entry, with mouse and computer keyboard, so the learning curve may not be as steep. I, too, am tired of MM upgrading but not improving. Wish me luck! Don't forget to join the Sibelius-list at yahoogroups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sibelius-list/ where there is a bona-fide Sibelius employee who officially monitors the list and is extremely helpful, as are the other members of the list. You might try downloading the demo first and trying it out before buying it. It isn't for everybody. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Percussion
Jim - Thanks for the perc. info. I'm getting into the Staff Styles section as soon as I'm done here. RE: the cadenza. I'm sorry to say that as I looked it over, I decided it needed a revision. It now has 64mm., too long for the one measure, giant meter signature solution, I'm afraid. I'm thinking of putting the cadenza after the last movement, as a reference for the soloist, on the last page. And a similar fix for the score. My Beethoven piano concerto scores are laid out this way. Any better ideas would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate your help and advice. BC - Original Message - From: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Percussion Check out staff styles in the manual. Jim PS--how was the cadenza? From: Bruce E. Clausen Sent: Tue 24-Jul-07 18:55 To: Finale Subject: [Finale] Percussion Another beginner's question: I'm trying to lay out a score that has one utility percussion part (orch. bells, bass drum, sus. cym., snare). It is unclear from the manual just how to accomplish this task. If I choose a percussion clef, I can't add the (pitched) bells and have a functioning key sig. or be able to add accidentals. If I follow the manual, I'm supposed to map the percussion, but it is supremely confusing. And playback is even more opaque. Can anyone help? Thanks!! Bruce E. Clausen, Ph.D. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Percussion
Jim - Again thanks. I'm not a FinNovice, but still find things to learn! This particular problem simply hasn't ever presented itself before. All of this mess started when I was asked to revise a piece I wrote 20 years ago. I should have known better! It's taken me weeks to rework the relevant passages, trying not to contradict my earlier style choices with my current predilections. It would have taken less time to write a new piece! Ars longa, vita brevis. BC - Original Message - From: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Percussion Don't give up yet! ;-) It can be broken up into a couple of measures, barlines can be hidden, music can be respaced, and measures can be excluded from numbering if that's an issue! Check out the measure tool for more details. Might make the parts a BIT more difficult to extract (you'd need to place a graphic rest, etc.), but will keep the cadenza in-score. The end of piece option is always a possibility, as you say. If you are just learning Finale, seems like you've started with a major project! Jim W. From: Bruce E. Clausen Sent: Tue 24-Jul-07 19:09 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Percussion Jim - Thanks for the perc. info. I'm getting into the Staff Styles section as soon as I'm done here. RE: the cadenza. I'm sorry to say that as I looked it over, I decided it needed a revision. It now has 64mm., too long for the one measure, giant meter signature solution, I'm afraid. I'm thinking of putting the cadenza after the last movement, as a reference for the soloist, on the last page. And a similar fix for the score. My Beethoven piano concerto scores are laid out this way. Any better ideas would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate your help and advice. BC - Original Message - From: Williams, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Percussion Check out staff styles in the manual. Jim PS--how was the cadenza? From: Bruce E. Clausen Sent: Tue 24-Jul-07 18:55 To: Finale Subject: [Finale] Percussion Another beginner's question: I'm trying to lay out a score that has one utility percussion part (orch. bells, bass drum, sus. cym., snare). It is unclear from the manual just how to accomplish this task. If I choose a percussion clef, I can't add the (pitched) bells and have a functioning key sig. or be able to add accidentals. If I follow the manual, I'm supposed to map the percussion, but it is supremely confusing. And playback is even more opaque. Can anyone help? Thanks!! Bruce E. Clausen, Ph.D. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Percussion
Thanks, Lee. And also, if I understand correctly, by using your written-out-real-measures solution (with multimeasure rests and cadenza), I would be able to optimize the cadenza mm. in the score, something I couldn't do if using the one measure option. Fortunately, I have several days to ponder my solutions before engraving the cadenza. Much obliged for the help! BC P.S. Palo Alto is my home town, that is, Stanford campus. - Original Message - From: Lee Actor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Percussion Jim - Thanks for the perc. info. I'm getting into the Staff Styles section as soon as I'm done here. RE: the cadenza. I'm sorry to say that as I looked it over, I decided it needed a revision. It now has 64mm., too long for the one measure, giant meter signature solution, I'm afraid. I'm thinking of putting the cadenza after the last movement, as a reference for the soloist, on the last page. And a similar fix for the score. My Beethoven piano concerto scores are laid out this way. Any better ideas would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate your help and advice. BC I would strongly suggest that you not put the cadenza after the end of the piece, which is much less convenient for both conductor and soloist. That is an archaic practice which stems from the days when cadenzas were supplied by the soloist, not the composer, and were not published as part of the piece proper. That started to change with Beethoven (he did publish separate cadenzas for his piano concerti, but by the Emperor the cadenzas were integrated into the piece), and by the middle of the 19th century composers usually wrote their own cadenzas as part of the concerto (with the notable exception of the Brahms violin concerto, probably others that don't occur to me at the moment). As far as using Finale to create a cadenza that looks like one measure rest in the parts, that is very doable, and someone else has given you guidance on that. Another possibility is what I have done with cadenzas: write them out as real measures, which appear in the parts as a single multimeasure rest with Cadenza written over it (and the last bit of the cadenza written as a cue for those parts that enter right after it). Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Sibelius
To All: I'm considering switching to Sibelius from Finale06, after having tried out the demo for Sib5. I'm not sure if this is a case of the grass being greener. Mu uses are as composer and self-publisher. What is the collective wisdom on this proposed switch? I would really appreciate your comments. Also, is there a listserv for Sibelius where I might lurk and find out what the current users are experiencing? Thanks to everyone. Bruce E. Clausen, Ph.D. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] (no subject)
I've just reopened a file (WinFin06) I've been working on for a few hours and I find that the major sections of the score (winds, brass, perc, strings) have dark blue wedges in them, in both scroll and page views. These blue intrusions weren't there when I last closed the file; and they continue all the way through the document. Closing and reopening the document doesn't help. I'm stumped! Can anyone help with this curious problem? Thanks, Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] (no subject)
Thanks, John. Works like a charm! BC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] (no subject) In a message dated 7/5/07 6:27:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just reopened a file (WinFin06) I've been working on for a few hours and I find that the major sections of the score (winds, brass, perc, strings) have dark blue wedges in them, in both scroll and page views. These blue intrusions weren't there when I last closed the file; and they continue all the way through the document. Closing and reopening the document doesn't help. I'm stumped! Can anyone help with this curious problem? Believe it or not - the Blue Triangle appears because you have Internet Explorer 7 installed. To get rid of the triangle, click on the Document Menu -- Document Options -- Lines and Curves. In the upper right hand corner is a Resolution field. Change the number in the field until the triangle sdisappear (try around 10). Don't know why it just showed up but this should fix it. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Printers used
More to the point, there are sprays that giclee' artists use to protect their works. Giclee' process is just a large-scale ink jet technology applied to canvas or watercolor paper. One could certainly use one of these spray products (I believe Bulldog is one brand name) to protect inkjet-printed music. Cost would become a factor. (and the stuff smells awful when first applied. OK after it's dry). I myself have thought of testing some inkjet-and-sprayed scores/parts against the usual laserjet for smearing, etc. ... and for cost. If one were able to protect inkjet materials one might also take advantage of the larger format printers for scores/parts larger than 11x17 (HP has one or two), though I don't believe that duplexing is available. Also, what weight paper the printers would handle is a question. BC - Original Message - From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Printers used At 5:01 AM -0500 3/1/07, dhbailey wrote: Both Canon and Epson make inkjet printers which can handle paper up to 12 or 13 x 19, and the great improvements in color inks for inkjets makes them far less susceptible to bleeding or fading in the short term. I seem to remember that there's a spray artists use to protect their work, like watercolors. Does that work to stabilize inkjet prints as well? John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] File Storage
What is the preferred method of file storage (WInFin06)? I've used CDs. Can I use flashdrives? Anything else? Thanks. Bruce E. Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Adding to the score
I'm working in WinFin06. I need to add 43 measures to the front of a piece (solo and orch.) I've already set in Finale. The measures in question change meter somewhat frequently. What's the best way to add these MM withouth screwing up everything downstream from the addition? Also, the solo part in these 43 MM, is already set in the piano reduction. Can I copy from one Fin. doc to another? Thanks in advance for any help. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Adding to the score
Thanks, Michael! - Original Message - From: Michael Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Adding to the score Go carefully! If the score already has been optimized and carefully laid out, you don't want to mess this up. First, lock the existing measures in their layout. Then work out about how many systems the measures ought to take up. Insert this number of locked systems using the Page Layout tool. If you use the Insert Systems or Delete Systems command, subsequent systems will correctly keep their optimization, whereas if you simply insert measures the optimization doesn't move with the music, which can create layout nightmares. Once you have inserted the systems, make sure that they contain exactly 43 measures: insert or delete measures, but don't change the number of systems. You can now copy the solo part from the piano reduction and paste it into the score. Now fill in the other parts. If necessary push measures from one system to another with Mass Edit to correct the spacing. Should you find that you need more systems, first insert blank ones containing one measure each, then move measures onto them with Mass edit. Then you can delete the blank measure from the system. On 13 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: I'm working in WinFin06. I need to add 43 measures to the front of a piece (solo and orch.) I've already set in Finale. The measures in question change meter somewhat frequently. What's the best way to add these MM withouth screwing up everything downstream from the addition? Also, the solo part in these 43 MM, is already set in the piano reduction. Can I copy from one Fin. doc to another? Thanks in advance for any help. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues
Nice review. Break a leg on the 14th! BC - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues Thanks Dennis, If you'll allow me a moment's more self-promotion, this is actually my second mention in the NYT in the past week. They also reviewed one of my gigs in Saturday's paper: http://tinyurl.com/y99skl If I had a press agent, he'd probably want a raise. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 06 Dec 2006, at 10:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 05:49 AM 12/6/06 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote: Lobbying for more effective union leadership and lobbying for rational copyright reform aren't mutually exclusive activities. Talk about mutual exclusivity, neither are commenting on the Finale list and getting a mention in the Times. Good one, Darcy! http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/arts/music/06blog.html Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues
I took a few minutes to visit the ISMN website (www.ismn-international.org) and found that it is relatively inexpensive to obtain an ISMN (although they have to be ordered in bulk). If having such a number does indeed increase one's likelihood of distribution it should make sense to get one. How do you all feel about the pros and cons here? Bruce Clausen - Original Message - From: Kim Patrick Clow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues On 12/3/06, Eric Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do try to exercise a little restraint when talking about matters you're maybe not quite sure about. I will, if you will. In principal, all publishers print on demand, on demand, the difference being the size and frequency of the print runs. Our print runs average between 300 and 400 copies, which, while certainly not in the same league with the big boys, can't really be described as print on demand. I did not use the words print on demand as a demeaning phrase, or in pejorative sense. So if you were offended, my apologies. Maybe a less offensive phrase would be non traditional publisher methods would be less offensive. But no matter how we define such desktop publishing; it's not the traditional method of how editions are published. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print_on_demand discusses this new trend in desktop publishing; and was my point in reference in asking my question in the first place, which was do such desktop publishing editions benefit from having an ISBN. That's what I was unclear about. Does having that allow your editions more exposure? Numbers aren't the only issue that defines a traditional versus a non-traditional publisher. From what I've been told: print on demand/non traditional publishers do not allow returns from vendors or distributors; and they also tend to have a much higher mark up versus the more traditional methologies: all of which makes it harder for such editions to get into the mainstream distribution system. Again---that's based what I've been told. If anyone else has a different experience, that's great. I hope the market opens up for smaller houses and non traditional publishers, because a lot of the material that matters to most of us, isn't being printed by the big boys. Also the editions are distributed by Harrassowitz in Wiesbaden, while print on demand publishers usually deal more or less directly with the customers. The library staff at Columbia University told me that any print on demand publisher that gets an ISBN or ISMN stands a good chance of being picked up by a distributor, especially if they have material they know they have customers for. I was specfically told about Harrassowitz. So no, while generally what you said can be the case, it's not always. Just as apparently you can sell directly to distributors without having ISBNs or ISMNs (according to comments here). Thanks, Kim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: Large-format laser
Darcy: Just for my information, why do you need 100# paper? Everyone else seems satisfied with the lighter weights. I ask because I'm jusst getting ready to set up my own publishing and I would like to feature stock that is more substantial and standworthy than the regular papers. Thanks, BC - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN: Large-format laser If anyone has any info about whether there is in fact a new-and- improved, more robust duplexer for the LaserJet 5200, I'd be very much obliged. The ability to duplex 100# offset (i.e. 40 lb. bond) paper is a very big priority for me. It sounds like I may be better off simply buying a new duplex unit for my Ricoh 2610, since my current duplex unit used to be able to handle up to 67 lb. bond paper with no problem. It sounds like the 5100's duplex unit has a similarly life cycle. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Playback
How would I (WinFin06) create an expression to simultaneously rall. and dim. in playback? Thanks in advance for any help! Bruce Clausen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Files and Printing
Thanks David and Noel. BC - Original Message - From: Noel Stoutenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Files and Printing Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Novice question: I'm working in FinWin06 and getting ready to print score and parts for a quartet, four movement work. Each movement is a separate file. Am I better off printing files separately or creating one super file with all movements included? Which would make printing easier? Your question actually gets to a workflow issue. One of the hardest things to do in Finale is to combine two movements which exist as separate files into one larger ones; it is hard enough to combine two files, that I make the decision which way I am going to do this before I create a file, and once the decision is made, I don't revisit it. If the project already exists as four separate files, I'd go ahead and work with what you have. Printing four scores, and four sets of parts is (in my experience anyway) orders of magnitude less challenging and stressful than trying to combine four movements which already exist as separate files into a single file. I did a nine movement work (albeit a choral score) as nine separate files, and combined the files in the process of printing which resulted in a 24 page booklet, printed two up on tabloid (11 x 17 inch) paper. I'm not sure what I would do on a four movement work for quartet. I've done them, and I've done them both as a large file, and as four shorter ones. Which method I would choose would depend upon a number of considerations, including (but not limited to) length of the work; whether and how the work is to be bound; and number of text, lyric, articulation, and expression items. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Lost Entry
While editing a score (WinFin06) consisting of three quintets, I seem to have lost part five of the first quintet, at least the notes. Still on thestaff are all the _expression_ markings. Is there some way of recovering the lost notes? I've made several editingpasses, which were updated and saved, before noticing the lost material. Am I SOL and need to buck up and re-add the lost notes? Further, is there some way you might have of keeping track all the partsof large scores while editing a portion that doesn't allow you to see the rest of the score while you're at work? Thanks in advance! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] (no subject)
More novice angst. I'm working in FinWin06 and attempting to hide several rests. I'm following the manual (Speedy Entry, H or O) and nothing happens. Nothing happens, also,when I use the plug-in (Note, Beam and RestHide), either. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] (no subject)
Got it fixed! Thanks everyone. Bruce - Original Message - From: Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] (no subject) I assume you are working in the correct level ... I screw that one up all the time. Dean On Aug 24, 2006, at 12:34 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: More novice angst. I'm working in FinWin06 and attempting to hide several rests. I'm following the manual (Speedy Entry, H or O) and nothing happens. Nothing happens, also, when I use the plug-in (Note, Beam and RestHide), either. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Meter Changes
Another novice question. I'm working with a score that changes meter every now and then. I need to notate "parens, quarter note=quarter note, or dotted half = whole note, parens." The manual, as usual, guards these secrets. Any help is greatly appreciated. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] No Key Signature
I'm starting to engrave a piece that uses no key signatures. I've consulted the Finale manual and it seems as though the only solution is to enter a transposing part in concert pitch and then transpose via Mass Mover. I can't believe this is the best way. Does anyone know of a workaround that will allow a no-signature score? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] No Key Signature
Thanks, Leigh! - Original Message - From: Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] No Key Signature In Staff Attributes, specify the instrument transpositions for each staff, then select Display At Concert Pitch to see all staves transposed to concert. To print a score showing the transpositions, uncheck Display At Concert Pitch and Bob's your uncle! **Leigh On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Bruce E. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm starting to engrave a piece that uses no key signatures. I've consulted the Finale manual and it seems as though the only solution is to enter a transposing part in concert pitch and then transpose via Mass Mover. I can't believe this is the best way. Does anyone know of a workaround that will allow a no-signature score? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] No Key Signature
Count me in! How do I let MM know? (and thanks) - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] No Key Signature Of course, doing this individually for every single staff in an orchestra score is an incredible pain in the tuchus, but since Setup Wizard won't let you choose chromatic transposition instead of key signature transposition before you create the score, there's no way around it without forgoing the setup wizard altogether. Would it be indelicate to point out that the Distinguished Competition has a one-click solution for this -- a key signature called Open Key/Atonal? I've encouraged MM to steal this feature before, but perhaps others can join me on this? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 18 Aug 2006, at 4:08 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: Thanks, Leigh! - Original Message - From: Leigh Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Finale List finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] No Key Signature In Staff Attributes, specify the instrument transpositions for each staff, then select Display At Concert Pitch to see all staves transposed to concert. To print a score showing the transpositions, uncheck Display At Concert Pitch and Bob's your uncle! **Leigh On Fri, Aug 18, 2006, Bruce E. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm starting to engrave a piece that uses no key signatures. I've consulted the Finale manual and it seems as though the only solution is to enter a transposing part in concert pitch and then transpose via Mass Mover. I can't believe this is the best way. Does anyone know of a workaround that will allow a no-signature score? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Speed of 2007 on Intel Macs?
I'm new at all this. What is TG Tools and how do you use it? - Original Message - From: Robert Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Speed of 2007 on Intel Macs? In my experience, quite significant. But I have not done a great deal of comparing. What's even more revealing, perhaps, is to compare Fin07-Intel with Fin07-PPC under Rosetta. Unfortunately, if you depend on TGTools (Pro), you will be forced to run Fin07 under Rosetta to use it on your Intel Mac. I hope Tobias is working on a Universal Binary of TGTools, but I haven't seen one yet. Matthew Hindson Fastmail acct wrote: Just out of interest, can anyone inform us about the speed of Finale 2007 on Intel Macs compared to, for example, 2006 under Rosetta? Is the speed boost as significant as perhaps it should be? Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fwd: Announcement:
I'm relatively new to the list . . . and almost all the acronyms are Greek to me. - Original Message - From: Rick Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Fwd: Announcement: Hi John, It means Digital Audio Workstation. You're right about SMF. What gets me is when people use acronyms for song titles like IDMATIIAGTS (It Don't Mean a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing) :-) Rick John Howell wrote: OK, I give. What's DAW? (I may be overly sensitive. There are tons of acronyms on this campus, which impede communication more than they facilitate it. Hiro's posts are especially difficult to translate, because he knows so darned much! I finally figured out that SMF probably means Standard MIDI File. Was I right? John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT : Research and Copyrighted Microforms headaches....
Along this same idea. Does anyone know of a good, up-to-date reference book on music copyrighting? For both original material and PD music. Bruce E. Clausen - Original Message - From: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT : Research and Copyrighted Microforms headaches On 20 Jul 2006 at 10:18, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: So what's a researcher like me supposed to do? Ask NYPL if they can interlibrary loan it (or the rolls you need). Then, make the copies at the microfilm printer at NYPL. Now, there can be problems with this. If you do this at the performing arts research collection, they won't let you use the microfilm of materials from another library anywhere except in the special collections microfilm room, which has only readers and no printers. But if you do the interlibrary loan through your *local* branch, you may be able to get around this. Talk to your local branch librarian and see if they can help you out. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] printers
Thanks for your insight on printers. I'm just starting my publishing enterprise and am making these important preliminary decisions. I, too, am a Musikwissenschaftler, in Beethovenstudien. My publishing, though, will be mostly horn music, at least at the beginning. (I played professionally before returning to university for my doctorate.) I've been hoping that I could find an economical method of printing larger scores and parts, say 9x12, but the laser printing world only seems to go to 11x17, and the larger formats are inkjet and therefore less stable on the page. Do you have any other insights relevant to my dilemma? Thanks in advance! BC Bruce E. Clausen, Ph.D. 3637 Vista Verde Palm Springs, CA 92262 (760) 318-2043r - Original Message - From: Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] printers On 04.07.2006 Christopher Smith wrote: I also still haven't worked out booklet printing, as I can't get two pages to print side by side when a LATER, discontiguous page is on the left. (like, page 6 and page 3. They print on two different pages.) I don't know if it is a Finale issue, a driver issue, or an OSX issue. If anyone has a hint there, I would appreciate it. I am not quite sure what problem you are describing. I do booklet printing regularly, and it has very little to do with the printer itself. There are two ways to accomplish it. For both you must first set the page setup (not page format) for your printer to A3 (or whatever the equivalent American format is), landscape. Then you either enter the pages in the correct order in Finales pages to print field in the printer dialog, or you let Finalescript do this, by entering print booklet [verso/recto] in the direct FinaleScript command line field. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] printers
Who out there has his/her own printer for scores and parts. We're looking at an HP Designjet 70, which will handle both size and weight. Any thoughts? Bruce ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
