[Finale] test

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[Finale] Selection Tool Slow

[Dejan Badnjar]

Finale 25. Clicking with selection tool on a measure in a large score very 
slow. Takes 1-2 seconds to highlight the measure. Sometime it’s fine. Very 
strange. Don’t know what causes it.
Mac, El Capitan, 2560x1600 resolution. Anyone else?

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[Finale] Times LT Std font problem in 2014.5

[Dejan Badnjar]

For some reason, I cannot select Adobe’s Times LT Std “Roman” in Bar numbers 
font selection. Opened files revert to Phonetic style of the font. All other 
font styles are OK. Articulation tool behaves the same.

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Re: [Finale] invert hairpins (plugin?)

[Dejan Badnjar]

Jeff,
How are you dealing with hairpin ends when they change to a sharp point at 
certain length and subsequently become longer when working in tight situations? 
This has been an issue for me since 2007 I believe.

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On 2012-08-16, at 2:21 PM, SN jef chippewa  
wrote:

> 
> goddammit, i just finished doing it all manually gr 
> yeah, i had looked in your PI, but somehow overlooked that option. 
> now seeing it, i have no clue how i missed it.  pff.
> 
> thanks jari, great PI idea even if it didn't help me this time around :-)
> 
>> 1. Launch "JW Change (Beta)" plug-in:
>> 2. Select Hairpins->Shape
>> 3. Set to "Swap Direction"
>> 4. Apply
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Re: [Finale] FinMac2012b - kernel_task going crazy

[Dejan Badnjar]

I had the exactly same thing in Lion and Spotlight indexing fix (removing the 
file) fixed it for me Jeff suggested it earlier...

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On 2012-08-12, at 12:07 PM, Darcy James Argue  wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
> 
> I use linked parts but that's non-negotiable. This Mac should have no trouble 
> handling that, though. There is definitely something else going on, something 
> Finale is doing that's causing the kernel_task process to spin out of 
> control, which drags down everything with it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - DJA
> -
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
> 
> 
> 
> On 11 Aug 2012, at 7:39 PM, Ryan wrote:
> 
>> Darcy, do you have linked parts in this document? I find that those are a
>> major culprit of slow behavior, especially in large documents.
>> 
>> Also (while in the Page Layout tool), look at the Edit Page Margins and
>> Edit System Margins window. Click the "Apply to Parts/Score..." button.
>> Whatever changes you make will be made to those other linked parts, slowing
>> down the productivity.
>> 
>> My projects sped up *a little* when I didn't have it affect all the linked
>> parts. But, there is definitely something else holding back the speed...
>> 
>> I'm still on 10.5.8, by the way
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Darcy James Argue 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> Thanks but is is definitely a Finale problem, not a Mac OS X problem or a
>>> computer problem. Everything else runs fine and I keep the machine and OS
>>> well-maintained.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> - DJA
>>> -
>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Aug 2012, at 6:57 PM, Michael Mathew wrote:
>>> 
 Darcy,
 
 I don't know if this is relative or not because I am not good at
>>> computer programming, etc.
 
 I'm wondering if DiskWarrior is supposed to help with slow downs and so
>>> forth?
 
 I have tried it on general principles once in a while and it seems to
>>> help sometimes.
 
 I also use David Pogues early MAC OS X suggestion to
 restart, hold down command s until it boots into the shell, and then at
>>> the command line run fsck (hyphen)-fy and hit return.
 
 Then type reboot and hit return/enter.
 
 Michael
 mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com
 http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl
 http://oregonmts.com/mathew/
 
 
> 
> From: Darcy James Argue 
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:08 PM
> Subject: [Finale] FinMac2012b - kernel_task going crazy
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on a large orchestral score in Finale 2012b -- 33 staves --
>>> and while I know that can sometimes cause some sluggishness, I'm now
>>> getting ridiculous, productivity-killing slowdowns, even on a fairly new
>>> and powerful Mac -- the 2011 MacBook Pro Core i7 (quad-core 2.2 GHz) with 8
>>> GB RAM.
> 
> Even without loading Garritan instruments, a look at Activity Monitor
>>> shows kernel_task going completely nuts, sucking up 380% of CPU in an idle
>>> state (Finale itself takes about 35% CPU). This means *extremely* poor
>>> performance doing basic tasks -- scrolling around the score, adding
>>> expressions, etc.
> 
> This behavior is definitely new to Fin2012 -- possibly new to Fin2012b,
>>> though I haven't done much orchestral work in Fin2012 vanilla so I'm not
>>> sure.
> 
> Is anyone else seeing this? (Jef, I think you mentioned something along
>>> these lines?)
> 
> Time Capsule is off, Spotlight is off, nothing else is running, and
>>> still, Finale causes the entire system to drag to a halt. Even a ProTools
>>> session with 60+ audio tracks doesn't cause my MacBook Pro to choke this
>>> bad. Something seriously screwy is going on, and it's completely killing my
>>> productivity.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - DJA
> -
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> 
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Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

[Dejan Badnjar]

Does this mean we all have to become "tea baggers"? :)
No updates if you don't join...

Trying to give a positive spin. :)

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On 2012-07-18, at 1:20 PM, Apeman  wrote:

> Seeing the "Koch" name in your list of links brought to mind the Koch 
> brothers who are multi-billionaires. According to my online search Jeffery is 
> representing the Koch Family which the Koch brothers own. This could be a 
> very GOOD thing for Finale. You can find more at this link:
>  
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
>  
> Let's wait and see. No need to get into a fear frenzy of the unknown.
>  
> Dave
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/18/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz 
> Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
> 
> 
> On Wed, July 18, 2012 10:59 am, David H. Bailey wrote:
>> I wonder who the investors in LaunchEquity Partners, LLC are.  I can't
>> find any information about them online.
> 
> http://www.secinfo.com/dsVs6.v2Uc.htm
> http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Name.asp?S=jeffrey+a.+koch
> http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Name.asp?S=broadway+advisors%2C+llc
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Re: [Finale] Cue staff question

[Dejan Badnjar]

Paul,
I have recently done a piece that had lots of these "cut offs" with clefs and 
found that the easiest and most precise way was to add an extra measure before 
the clef, hide the barline, apply staff style to the previous measures before 
the clef, make the bar that has the clef change small and adjust everything 
below accordingly. This way you have total control of the size of the extended 
staff lines for the clef. Make the cue clef size to 100% in the document 
setting so they all match with starting clefs.

Dejan

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On 2012-06-08, at 11:10 AM, Paul Hayden  wrote:

> On Thu Jun 7, John Blane wrote:
> 
> "Clear the staff style that hides the staff on beat 2 of the preceding 
> measure (under the clef)."
> 
> 
> Doh! Forgot about hiding partial measures! Thanks, John.
> 
> Now for a minor followup question. Here is what I got hiding the first half 
> of that measure:
> .
> 
> Is there a way to hide just a bit more of the staff lines before the bass 
> clef? I've tried placing a blank graphic over the staff lines, but doesn't 
> seem to work when I print the page (the graphic is ignored and the staff 
> lines show). There's probably some sort of kludge that will work...
> 
> Paul Hayden
> 
> 
> On Jun 7, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Paul Hayden wrote:
>> 
> This is a scan of an example on page 577 of Elaine Gould's "Behind Bars":
> 
>> > .
>> 
> This five-line staff (a cue staff) starts in the middle of the page. Note how 
> the staff lines under the arrow extend a bit before the barline to encompass 
> the clef.
> 
>> 
> This is the best I've been able to do (FinMac09):
>> > .
>> 
> How can I get those staff lines to extend a bit before the barline to include 
> the staff?
>> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
> Paul Hayden
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] F2012 extremely sluggish behaviour (mac)

[Dejan Badnjar]

Turn off automatic update layout in program options. I think that's what I did 
to fix it. It's a Mac thing, works fine on PC.

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wrote:

> 
> has anyone else noticed sluggish behaviour?  i am early on in a huge 
> score and it is taking 7 seconds to exit speedy entry.  fine, maybe 
> that isn't huge but this score is 160 pages and i am worried it is 
> just going to get much worse as i get further along.
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Re: [Finale] Poor Resolution of Imported Graphics

[Dejan Badnjar]

I do have the full Acrobat, but still getting poor resolution of the imported 
graphic (PDF in this case) when "saving as Adobe pdf". The only partial 
solution is what Brian suggested, to print to PS file or "Compile PostScrip 
listing" with Imported EPS only, but cannot get it to compile to a specific 
trim size of 9.5 x 12.66. 
As far as I know, there is no way to add a custom page size to "Compile 
PostScript listing" menu, and cannot figure out a way to add one in the "Save 
as PostScrip" from the Print menu. It always goes to default letter size. 
How do people make good pdfs with imported graphics on the Mac???
I've been doing this on the PC forever, but cannot get it to work on the Mac.

Dan

On 2012-04-08, at 3:39 PM, John Howell wrote:

> I don't know whether this applies, but I also 
> learned just 2 days ago that if you are using the 
> Mac OS .pdf function to "print" to a .pdf file, 
> it is actually a "PDF Lite" and can introduce 
> errors and distortions.  By going to "Adobe PDF" 
> in that same dialog instead, you engage the Adobe 
> program itself and get better quality.  (Of 
> course to do that you have to have the Adobe 
> Acrobat program on your computer to begin with.)
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:04 PM -0700 4/8/12, Brian Williams wrote:
>> It's a Mac thing. You need to print to a 
>> postscript file (not PDF) then open the ps file 
>> in Preview which will convert it to a PDF so you 
>> can save and/or print it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive the typos and brevity.
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:00 AM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> My Mac version of Finale 2012 displays and 
>>> prints imported graphics to PDF with poor 
>>> resolution of the imported graphic. Printing 
>>> the same file to PDF with Finale 2012 on 
>>> Windows gives proper results. Any suggestions? 
>>> Is this a problem with the Mac version of Fin 
>>> 2012?
>>> 
>>> Dan
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Re: [Finale] Poor Resolution of Imported Graphics

[Dejan Badnjar]

Thanks Brian,

It works if you import EPS but not PDF.  
Dan

On 2012-04-08, at 3:04 PM, Brian Williams wrote:

> It's a Mac thing. You need to print to a postscript file (not PDF) then open 
> the ps file in Preview which will convert it to a PDF so you can save and/or 
> print it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive the typos and brevity.
> 
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:00 AM,  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> My Mac version of Finale 2012 displays and prints imported graphics to PDF 
>> with poor resolution of the imported graphic. Printing the same file to PDF 
>> with Finale 2012 on Windows gives proper results. Any suggestions? Is this a 
>> problem with the Mac version of Fin 2012?
>> 
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[Finale] Poor resolution of imported graphics

[Dejan Badnjar]

My Mac version of Finale 2012 displays and prints imported graphics to PDF with 
poor resolution of the imported graphic. Printing the same file to PDF with 
Finale 2012 on Windows gives proper results. Any suggestions? Is this a problem 
with the Mac version of Fin 2012?

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RE: [Finale] Group names

[Dejan Badnjar]

All group names display properly when the systems are not optimized. As soon
as you optimize or apply "Allow Individual Staff Spacing" on the system they
disappear. 

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Subject: Re: [Finale] Group names

On 6 Sep 2010 at 20:29, Dejan Badnjar wrote:

> We have a problem with group names disappearing from the page view
> after deleting number of measures in the file. All groups are set
> properly and they display in the scroll view. Using TGTools to rebuild
> the groups does not work. It puts the same text (i.e. Vc.) in all
> groups in the entire file. Any ideas?

Have you checked optimization? Whenever I have this problem it's 
always due to forgetting about the interaction between group names 
and optimization.

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[Finale] Group names

[Dejan Badnjar]

We have a problem with group names disappearing from the page view after
deleting number of measures in the file. All groups are set properly and
they display in the scroll view. Using TGTools to rebuild the groups does
not work. It puts the same text (i.e. Vc.) in all groups in the entire file.
Any ideas?

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[Finale] EPS files

[Dejan Badnjar]

Can anyone confirm that Windows version of Finale 2010 cannot embed Times
(Type 1 - Adobe) when exporting to EPS file? Times New Roman seems to work,
but numerous other fonts don't. 

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[Finale] Exploding Bug

[Dejan Badnjar]

Hi all,

Does anybody have a workaround for exploding bug in Fin 2007? Exploding would 
respell the notes according to "Enharmonic Spelling" settings at the time the 
notes were entered. So, if you entered a flat note with "Favor Sharps" on, Fin 
2007 respells the flat to sharp. I hope that this is the proper assessment of 
the problem. It has been reported on the Finale forum. PC and Mac versions 
behave the same.

Thanks
Dejan


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[Finale] Charging for Finale Work

[Dejan Badnjar]

Hi all,

Is anybody charging "per active frame" or "per item" rather then per page rate 
for Finale engraving work? I would appreciate any input since I am trying to 
come up with a fare "per frame" or "per item" rate. This is for serious 
orchestral rental scores (not parts), rather then publications.

Thanks,
Dejan

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RE: [Finale] 2007a and maestro font

[Dejan Badnjar]

I have just opened the font and the middle slash in tremolo still has 3
copies on top of each other. This of course causes pdf problems when you
print directly to PDF driver, but when you compile PS listings we still have
the hairpin lines extension problems. I can not believe this. 

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Subject: Re: [Finale] 2007a and maestro font

In my opinion...YOU'LL LOVE IT!

All of the standing bug issues with trem. Markings etc. are fixed AND they
include a substitute font for Metimes called Maestro Times that uses the
same keyboard mapping as Metimes. And as an extra bonus...you can choose
from postscript and truetype fonts.

Steve


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> I just took a look at the Finale website and checked out the download
> for 2007a. It says there is a new version of the maestro font with the
> download.
> 
> I presently do most of my work on Finale 2003a, and wonder if I
> download the 2007a updater, with the new version of Maestro font, will
> that have any effect on the version of Maestro when I open a file (or
> for that matter, create a new file) in 2003a on my Mac G4 powerbook?
> 
> Thanks,
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Finale] Articulations

[Dejan Badnjar]

I was wondering what the logic behind automatic placement option for 
articulations is. It clearly says auto note/stem side, but instead of placing 
main symbol on the note side regardless of the note position on the staff, it 
places main symbol only on the notes above the middle staff line and flipped 
ones on the notes below the middle line. Is this a bug or there is something 
logical about this that I am not aware? All I want is to have stem centered 
staccati, marcati, etc when placed on the stem side without creating a separate 
assignment. The other 2 bugs I noticed just making the articulation libraries 
is when you flip the stem (with L) and you put it back to normal (again with L) 
stem changes stay frozen. The other is not being able to select shape as a 
flipped symbol in the articulation designer when creating new articulation. 
Imported libraries work but you can't see what they are on the PC if containing 
a flipped symbol, but you can see them in the Mac version.

Any ideas?

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[Finale] Pdf problem

[Dejan Badnjar]

Hi all,

I have just discovered that smaller hairpins (cresc. or dim.) are extended a 
little on the closed end when you "Compile Post Script Listings" in the ps 
file. The closed end gets a sharp angle instead of "boxed" one, as in the 
longer ones, so the closed end is touching the dynamic markings when they are 
close to each other. This only happens with shorter hairpins, the longer ones 
seem fine. I have to compile listings for pdf creation because of tremolo slash 
bug. Apart from modifying the font that seems to be the only workaround for pdf 
files with Acrobat.
I also tried different line widths, opening widths, etc., nothing seems to 
work. GhostView also sees the hairpins the same way Distiller does.

Any ideas.

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RE: [Finale] Finale's Music Spacing

[Dejan Badnjar]

I am having a problem conveying my
findings. Éric and Ansgar are so far the only two that really
understand what I was talking about when I started the thread. It is a very
simple matter. Finale SOMETIMES just erratically spaces certain measures on the
same line. Individual bars are spaced OK but the proportionality between two or
three measures is off. What you get is same note values spaced differently
between the two measures. It is mostly evident when you introduce accidentals
in the mix, but happens without them as well. From what I can see so far the
initial spacing is done OK (seen in the page view or TG tools applied Add/Remove
Space) but when Finale scales the measures to fit them on the line it gives
certain measures (combination of values, notes with accidentals, etc) more
space then others. In many cases it DOES NOT. There is no specific situation or
combination that you can pin point and show as an example. Sure you can do
manual adjustments, apply plug-ins etc., but they are never perfect. Dragging
the barline, reducing the measure width is a workaround but not a solution. Allotment
libraries simply don’t work. I don’t know why we still need them
when they introduced the scaling factor. We should be able to get very
different results by adjusting scaling factor, reference duration, minimum
space between the items, etc. Why would I have to specify the values for
Fibonacci spacing when there is the feature that should do it automatically for
me? For example, why do we get inaccurate results if we specify: Scaling factor
1.618, Reference Duration of 1 quarter and reference width of 1 space (84 evpu)
“Use default width if duration not in table” also doesn’t work
properly. And people that completely dismiss Sibelius spacing are wrong. They
had major issues with Version 1 and 2, but tremendously improved with 3 and 4. On
the other hand Music Press has a Scaling Factor and Percentage at which the
factor is applied. Excluding the problem of spacing tuplets on multiple lines
it works wonderfully. 

 

Just my thoughts.

 

 

 



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From:
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Sent: September 6, 2006 11:09 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale's
Music Spacing



 

 





Le 06-09-06 à 15:47, Fiskum, Steve a écrit :







Spacing is a hard thing to
discuss. It comes with experience and

understanding of the extra tools
available. Did you know that some scores

can look just fine by using Time
Signature spacing with all of the measures

staying at the same width? It
really depends on your project and what type

of spacing needs to be applied.
Spacing Octavos vs. spacing Concert Band

music are very different. I am
thankful that at least within Finale we have

options...not so in Sib. I am
leery when I hear people asking MM to "try to

fix" this issue, because
spacing is so personal. What could be fixed for

your issues could make my
workflow a disaster. Personally I believe there

are different spacing concerns
with every piece and that Finale does a good

job getting the initial spacing
setup to start engraving.

 

If there are any improvements: I
would like to have 2 choices for "Min.

Distance Between Notes with
Ties"

1. Notes with ledger lines

2. Notes without ledger lines

 

I can understand your frustration
but with a little extra work you can get

the spacing options you prefer.
Instead of taking 2 days to work on this

issue with MM...take those same
days and try creating your own spacing

allotments. You might be
surprised how well it can work for you.

 

My 2 cents (ducking from the
flames).

Steve

 





I agree that any situation is different and there are always a way to
make spacing look ok in Finale. But it was not Dejan's question.





We know that there are tweakings and workaround in Finale, but he was
pointing out a specific example, very relevant, where Score's music spacing was
great (in general a big strengh of Score), and Finale, Sibelius and Graphire
Music Press more of less had the same inferior spacing. Most of us will agree
that having music spacing that does not distort or alter the visual duration of
notes is something desirable. Why not hope that Finale on two consecutive
measures of sixteenth notes have them spaced more regularly? That's the point
of Dejan and I totally agree with him on this. Are there many of us that would
like default music spacing to be more beautiful?





It's strange that this debate always result in people showing their own
workarounds, thus escaping the real thread (same thing on MakeMusic's forum).





 





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RE: [Finale] Finale's Music Spacing

[Dejan Badnjar]

Hi Johannes,

It does not solve the problem. I got the reply from MM this morning. They
completely misunderstand what I want. I've spent few days on this issue and
I am about to give up on it. Every time I try to explain what a problem is I
get a reply with workaround solution. Sure you can manually adjust the
spacing but it is very time consuming to get good results. Why should I
calculate mathematical algorithms when I have a computer? By closely
examining the spacing after manual adjustments you can see that it's still
not 100% accurate. This is very simple to understand but they choose to
ignore it. The problem is somewhere in the way Finale stretches the measure
in Page View to fill the system. The initial spacing (seen in Scroll View)
seems to ignore the "extra space for accidentals and ledger lines", but when
stretched in page view adds this extra space unproportionally to some of the
measure but not all. The result is anything but 1.618 ratio that they claim
Finale is capable off. There are simply not enough people that care about
this.

Any suggestions? 

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Hi Dejan,

I know exactly what you are talking about, and a few years ago I had 
long exchanges with tech support about this, and although eventually 
they had to  give in and agreed that there is something wrong, it was 
never fixed.

However, I might have a fix for you, but test yourself:

After having spaced the music, use the full TGTools, Spacing->Expand 
Spacing, with a value of 0. You could also use compress spacing, I 
believe, it doesn't matter.

This fixes the beat charts for some reason. I am pretty sure it fixes it 
in most situations.

Try it, and if it works for you as it does for me, let us know.

I usually only apply the fix when I see a problem, however, it may well 
be possible to simply apply it to the complete document.

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[Finale] Finale's Music Spacing

[Dejan Badnjar]

Hi everyone,

 

I’ve started a discussion on the Finale Forum trying to get MM to fix the 
problem with spacing accidentals. I don’t want to do any more of “manual 
adjustments”. I would appreciate if you can take few moments, and if you agree 
with my assessment, send the case to MM so they listen this time. Every time I 
complained in the past nothing had been done. I can’t post files on this forum 
so I will add the link:
 
Finale Default Spacing:

http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=161961


Thanks,


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[Finale] Finale's Music Spacing

[Dejan Badnjar]

Hi everyone,

 

I’ve started a discussion on the Finale Forum trying to get
MM to fix the problem with spacing accidentals. I don’t want to do any more of “manual
adjustments”. I would appreciate if you can take few moments, and if you agree
with my assessment, send the case to MM so they listen this time. Every time I
complained in the past nothing had been done. I can’t post files on this forum
so I will add the link:

 

Finale Default Spacing:

 

http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=161961

 

Thanks,

 

Dejan Badnjar

Musette Desktop Music Publishing

1 Eastview Cres.

Orangeville, Ontario

L9W 4X3

CANADA

Tel.: (519) 942-0407

Fax: (519) 942-4417

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[Finale] Articulation Selection Problem

[Dejan Badnjar]

I am not sure if this issue is isolated with my installation of Finale 2007 or 
it's a bug.
Since I had problems with loading my articulation libraries last night and not 
being able to see half of the symbols I started creating a new library. But 
when I make articulations as "SHAPES" I am not being able to select and keep 
"FLIPPED" symbol as a "SHAPE". The box stays empty not matter what I do. 2006 
libraries load in OK and keep the selection but I can't see some of the symbols 
in the selection window, they appear as dots. Can you gentlemen try this with 
your Fin. 2007.



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RE: [Finale] finale 2007 order / ship to canada (mon treal )

[Dejan Badnjar]

Title: finale 2007 order / ship to canada (montrial)








Jef,

 

Fedex collected:

 

8% PST, 6% GST and CAD$10.00 duties + CAD$23.00
shipping.

 



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From:
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Sent: August 20, 2006 1:28 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] finale 2007
order / ship to canada
(montréal )



 



 





anyone have any extra costs added to their order "as a result of
taxes, customs fees, import duties, brokerage fees, etc."?





 





jef





 





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Shipping Type
Canada $23.95





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fees, import duties, brokerage fees, etc. (to be collected by the shipping
carrier at the time of delivery) Please be aware that these charges and fees
are established by local import offices, and/or local government agencies in
your country, and are not applied or collected by MakeMusic Inc.





 





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RE: [Finale] Clefs in linked parts

[Dejan Badnjar]

Robert, you're absolutely right. I am officially giving up on linked parts
until next time. Separate files are safest for now.

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Subject: Re: [Finale] Clefs in linked parts



Tyler Turner wrote:

> Use a staff
> style to set the staff in the score to use a chromatic
> transposition, set to clef.

This works in many cases, but there is one where it is dicey, and that's 
  a partial-meas cue where the clef changes in the score. Consider a 
cello part in bass clef where the next entrance changes to tenor clef. 
In the part you want to insert a treble-clef vln cue immediately before 
the change to tenor.

The staff style by itself won't work because it must be applied to whole 
measures. If you apply it to the whole meas, you lose your tenor clef. 
The only solution I can think of is a score-only expression, and even 
then you have to hide a spurious clef change at the beginning of the 
next measure.

I also had to use score-only exps to display rests on the correct line 
in a partial-meas cue situation. It's time-consuming and irritating. 
Cues need a great deal more attention.

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RE: [Finale] Clefs in linked parts

[Dejan Badnjar]

The only problem I have that is that I don't want to start the clef change
before the barline, it should be just before the beat of the cue entrance.
(eg. 3/4 time  1/4 rest 1/4 rest clef 1/8 rest 1/8 note) I don't want to
apply stuff styles on the music that does not require it. You can not apply
the style to the part of the measure. After all, we should be able to use
different clef in the part.

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Subject: Re: [Finale] Clefs in linked parts

You can override the clef changes in cues with a transposition staff 
style. It won't actually transpose, but it will use Set to Clef. Other 
clef issues can probably be resolved this way, but perhaps not all of them.

Dejan Badnjar wrote:

> Don't you gentleman think that clefs should absolutely not be "linked" as
a rule, preferably "intelligently linked" or "linked until changed in part".
So many times I've used different clef in the score for many reasons, and
changed them in part. Main reason I have put in case submission to Coda is
because of cuing with stuff styles and clef changes. You can not apply stuff
style to partial measures, etc, etc.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Dejan Badnjar
> Musette Desktop Music Publishing
> 1 Eastview Cres.
> Orangeville, Ontario
> L9W 4X3
> CANADA
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[Finale] Clefs in linked parts

[Dejan Badnjar]

Don't you gentleman think that clefs should absolutely not be "linked" as a 
rule, preferably "intelligently linked" or "linked until changed in part". So 
many times I've used different clef in the score for many reasons, and changed 
them in part. Main reason I have put in case submission to Coda is because of 
cuing with stuff styles and clef changes. You can not apply stuff style to 
partial measures, etc, etc.

Any thoughts?

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RE: [Finale] update staff distance

[Dejan Badnjar]

Just drag the top box down or use stuff usage box to set it to -300 from the
viola stuff.

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Is there a solution to this:

I have an optimized score, and I cannot un-optimize. However, after 
entering figures I need more space between the lowest two systems, ie I 
want to set the distance between the bass staff and the viola staff to 
300 EVPUs for all (optimized) systems. Is there a way to do this without 
losing the optimization (ie hidden parts)?

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[Finale] If I only had an option

[Dejan Badnjar]

Can you imagine if Finale 2007 had an option to draw hairpins in the Smart 
Shape Tool/Tab Slide/Smart Line Designer so that you can be able to make all 
instances of dynamic changes (eg. Ppp, etc) and display them in a 
separate menu for selection (with metatools), applying them as Pedal markings 
attached to notes. Talk about consistency and accuracy. In my long experience 
with engraving scores this is where you spend most time, and more when you do 
the same thing for extracted parts. I have asked Tobias years ago about this. 
This should really be easy to implement. Music Press has similar feature but 
with separate dynamics and hairpins. 

Just a thought.

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[Finale] Cued Linked Parts

[Dejan Badnjar]

Has anybody cued the linked parts using the stuff styles, which seems to be the 
only way to cue the parts and preserve the "linkage" with the score? How 
reliable and/or messy is it? I just don't know if I should go for it or 
experiment later with something less important.


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[Finale] test

[Dejan Badnjar]

I have posted a topic couple of day ago that had not been
delivered to everyone after joining the list. Can anyone reply if this one goes
through.

 

Thanks

 

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[Finale] Finale 2006 slow on 30" monitor

[Dejan Badnjar]

Is anybody running Finale @ 2560x1600 resolution on Dell
3007WFP or Apple 30 ACD monitor? My Finale 2006 seems sluggish on Dell 3007
with GeForce 7800GTX (Win XP Pro). It feels like Sibelius 1 did on Mac when it
came out. I know this is a lot to ask of a music program (or any program) to be
responsive on 4 Mega pixel monitor but Finale 2005 runs beautifully. Sibelius 4
is also slow with all drawing options enabled. 

 

 

 

 

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[Finale] Finale 2006 on 30" monitor

[Dejan Badnjar]

Is anybody running Finale @ 2560x1600 pixel resolution on
Dell 3007WFP or Apple 30 ACD monitor? My Finale 2006 seems sluggish on Dell
3007 with GeForce 7800GTX (Win XP Pro). It feels like Sibelius 1 did on Mac
when it came out. I know this is a lot to ask of a music program (or any
program) to be responsive on 4 Mega pixel monitor but Finale 2005 runs
beautifully. Sibelius 4 is also slow with all drawing options enabled. 

Waiting for 2007. Hopefully it’ll be better.

 

Dan

 






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