[Finale] Question About Proper Notation
Hi, Everyone... I'm notating a song in 6/8 time and in one spot it has syncopated rhythm, and I'm not sure which way is the proper way to notate it! There are 4 notes in the measure, each getting 1.5 counts - would this be portrayed with 4 dotted-eighth notes? Or would you do dotted- eighth, 16th-tied-to-8th, dotted-eighth, 16th-tied-to-8th? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestral Notation
On Dec 3, 2006, at 4:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, when I use Finale I am forced to use the "show in concert pitch" option because when I enter a note for a transposed instrument, let's say a written F for horn (sounding Bb) the note that Finale plays isn't the real note, the Bb, but a concert F. I'm afraid this is enough to trash my train of thought and I really don't understand why Finale does it this way. Maybe others prefer it, I don't know. Thank you! That's what I thought I was hearing as I was entering notes on the transposed instruments! So - during note entry, Finale plays the note "incorrectly" (non-transposed) - but when you hit "play" on the playback controls, then it does play each transposed instrument correctly...? I thought I was going nuts there for a minute! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Orchestral Notation
On Dec 2, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: It is possible to enter everything into Finale at concert pitch (I don't do this myself, so I don't remember where it resides, but there is a "toggle" called "Display score in concert pitch" ). If you do this, you write at the normal pitch, and then view the transposed score, and all the transposing instruments will appear correctly transposed. They always play back at the correct concert pitch, whichever view you have chosen. Thanks so much, Chuck! I really appreciate it... - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Orchestral Notation
Hi, Everyone... I have never notated for orchestra before and have a few questions... I'm using Finale 2007/Mac. I'm a little confused about the transposing instruments. I've gone through the tutorial on how to select the proper staves, etc., for each instrument. If I'm notating, for example, a Bb Trumpet, I know this means it has to be 1 step higher than standard pitch. If I'm in the key of C, it puts the key of D on that staff. Do I then notate as if I'm in D and think "up" 1 step for the whole song - or is there a way to notate everything in C and after the fact, tell Finale to switch that staff to a Bb Trumpet staff and have it automatically reconfigure the transposed staff for me? When I'm playing back these staves, do they play back in standard pitch - or in the transposed pitch? I mean - can I audition what I've done and hear it play back properly, or is it going to sound wrong because it's notated in D instead of C? Lastly... I'm confused as to what the "alto" staff is for viola...? Just not familiar with these alternate types of staves and need some guidance! Thanks so much for any tips! - Jacki - Personal web site: http://www.ourlittleplace.com/ Myspace page: http://myspace.com/note_master ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Jazz Piano Instruction Book?
Thanks for the recommendations! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Jazz Piano Instruction Book?
Hi, Everyone...Just wondering if anyone here knows of a good jazz piano instructional book you could recommend? I do already play piano, but am most interested in learning more about jazz techniques - especially jazz chords, etc. Would appreciate any suggestions!Also - does anyone by chance know if there's any way possible to get pen marking off of piano keys?! A friend's child was over here and marked up my piano :(Thanks!Jacki -Personal web site:http://www.ourlittleplace.com/Myspace page:http://myspace.com/note_master ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] "Slide" mark?
On Jul 28, 2006, at 7:32 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: I think what you want is what jazz musicians call a fall-off. There are symbols for that in the Jazz font and in Bill Duncan's new articulations font. Short of that, you can use a downward glissando symbol at an angle around 45° extending about a quarter of an inch after the note, and most singers will know what you mean. What you are hearing is a common enough gesture. Thanks, Chuck! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] "Slide" mark?
Hi, Everyone - I'm doing a vocal arrangement in Finale 2005b Mac, and I'm wondering what the proper symbol would be for a "slide" down in the vocals - a slight drop in pitch but not really notes...? Thanks for any tips! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2007
On Jul 28, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: A lite version of TGTools is bundled with Finale, but I don't know much about it. The full version, which I find indispensable, is available for purchase from tgtools.com. Thanks so much, Aaron! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Open recent
On Jul 15, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: It is most certainly not the same on Mac, this option is and was never present on the Mac version. I would just be happy if it WORKED on the Mac version! I'm still in 2005b and when I switched my OS to Tiger, for some reason the "Open Recent" totally quit working. Calls to Finale's support line were to no avail :( I'm hoping it will start working again when I go ahead and upgrade to 2007... Anyone else have this happen?!! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2007
On Jun 29, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Using TGTools, you can optimize any staff no matter what's on it. I can't imagine doing staff optimization w/o TGTools, esp. for large numbers of staves. It would be like returning to the Stone Age. How do you get these TG Tools? I go to that menu but there's nothing there :) Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Question Again :)
Thanks so much for the explanation and response! - Jacki On Jul 19, 2006, at 5:32 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Jacki Barineau / 2006/07/19 / 05:14 PM wrote: Later on, the same chord is used that does include a G... Does this change things?! :) Yes, very much. The reason why 6/9 chord is used by specifying to omit major 7th is because melody is root of the chord, that will produce distractive flat 9th sound. If there is no root in the strong beat of the melody, there is no need to use 6/9 chord. It is more correct to say Maj 13th. In another word, 6/9 chord notation is to tell the performer "don't dear voice major 7th!". :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA <http://a-no-ne.com> <http://anonemusic.com> ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Question Again :)
On Jul 19, 2006, at 5:01 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: A-NO-NE Music / 2006/07/19 / 04:58 PM wrote: It's Ab69 since there is no D in it. I meant "G". Sorry! Later on, the same chord is used that does include a G... Does this change things?! :) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord Question Again :)
Hi, Everyone - Another chord question for you! This song is in Cm and the chord is spelled: Ab - C - Eb - F - Bb - Eb Would this be an AbMaj13? The chord before it is an Eb. The chord after it is a Cm. This chord is kind of a "suspended" sounding chord that does not resolve. Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Definition Question!
Hi, Everyone - I sent this question a few days ago and haven't gotten a response yet - does anyone know how to do this?! Thanks! On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Okay - now that I've got this chord figured out... :) How can I tell Finale what notes to play for each chord? What I've tried seems to only let you alternate the root or bass if I'm understanding it correctly. Well, obviously for chords like this and even Maj9ths I have to ADD notes to the root triad - so is there some way to tell Finale the spelling of the chords? Thanks so much! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2007
Does it look like they've fixed the "tie" problem as far as not being able to put "half ties" in certain places?! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord Definition Question!
Okay - now that I've got this chord figured out... :) How can I tell Finale what notes to play for each chord? What I've tried seems to only let you alternate the root or bass if I'm understanding it correctly. Well, obviously for chords like this and even Maj9ths I have to ADD notes to the root triad - so is there some way to tell Finale the spelling of the chords? Thanks so much! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
Thanks! That worked great - though tedius :) On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The short answer: just because. (shrug) LOL - makes sense :) Okay - next problem! I'm trying to put F6/9(#11) above the staff, but it keeps changing it to F6/E!! I made sure "simplify spelling" is off and I even went in to edit the chord symbol manually, but it still turned it back into F6/E!! How do I get it to keep the F6/9(#11)? Yeah, Finale construes the diagonal slash as an alternate bass. You have to fool it into writing this suffix. I take it you don't already have the suffix constructed, so you will have to do this the hard way. I assume you are using Maestro rather than JazzFont. Chord Menu, select Manual Input. Click on the note. Down at the bottom of the window, you have Suffix ID, click Select Click Create TYpe in 6, then click Next. Type in / then click Next. Type in 9 then click Next. Type in ( then click Next Now careful. Type 11, click Number, and prefix #, then click next. Numbers are the only thing you can enter two of at a time. Type in ) then click Ok. Check the suffix number, because you will need it from now on to use this suffix more easily. It might be 83 if you haven't already added new suffixes. Cancel your way back to the score. Now, to enter this suffix using Type Into Score, select Type into score from the chord menu. Click the note. Type exactly F:83 (eff colon eight three) assuming the suffix number is 83. Hit the space bar to move to the next note as usual. The chord F with suffix number 83 will magically appear. If you have forgotten the suffix number, enter zero instead, and select the suffix from the list. Whew! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The short answer: just because. (shrug) LOL - makes sense :) Okay - next problem! I'm trying to put F6/9(#11) above the staff, but it keeps changing it to F6/E!! I made sure "simplify spelling" is off and I even went in to edit the chord symbol manually, but it still turned it back into F6/E!! How do I get it to keep the F6/9(#11)? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Right -- "F6/9#11)" is the most concise non-compound chord notation. Hi, Everyone... I just have one more question about this chord! I'm just curious why it wouldn't be referred to as an F2/6(#4) or F2/ #4/6...? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:07 AM, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: I think that most keyboard players (of which I am minimally one) would recognize either notation, but would assume that you were asking specifically for a particular voicing (F chord in the bass and G chord in the treble) with the G-over-F notation. Specifying the target instrument and musical genre might help someone provide a more definitive answer. Thanks, Dennis... It's targeted for both piano and guitar actually - a band, and it's a very jazzy-style Christian contemporary genre. - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Both are correct. What you write depends on the context: is this chord symbol just a label above a fully written-out piano part, or is it above slash marks? If the specific triadic G-over-F voicing is crucial, and it's above slash marks, G-over-F is your best bet. If the precise arrangement of notes in the voicing can be left to the discretion of the player, or if it's just a label above a piano part that's already fully-written out, "F6/9(#11)" is better. Thanks, Darcy... It's actually a "lead sheet" with one staff of notes, lyrics, and the chord symbols above the staff. I'm thinking for the group I'm doing this for, the G over F will be more clear - they will probably have no idea how to play an F6/9(#11)!! :) - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Right -- "F6/9#11)" is the most concise non-compound chord notation. Thanks, Everyone, for the responses! I'm learning a lot here! Okay, so which would be better to use - the compound G"over"F or the F6/9#11 - I mean which would a musician understand better, and which would be the music theory "correct" way of symbolizing this chord? Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!
Hi, Everyone! Okay - I've got another jazz chord I'm trying to figure out. It's basically a G chord in the treble (G-B-D) with an F chord in the bass (F-A-C). Is this some sort of F13#4? Or what would you call this?! It definitely has the "F" flavor to it. It is in the key of G (Em) and the chord before this one is an Em7. The chord after it is an Fmaj7. Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hyphens Acting Weird
Thanks so much for the help! That was just weird because it's never happened before :) - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hyphens Acting Weird
Hi, Everyone - for some reason suddenly the hyphens separating syllables are not putting just 1 dash like it usually does, but it's putting 2-3 dashes in between syllables and it looks silly! How can I set this back to just putting 1 dash for each hyphen. I'm not sure what I changed to cause this!! Thanks so much, Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rearranging chords
On Jun 20, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: I don't know how the canonic utility works. If you figure out something, please let us know. Wow - that worked like a charm!!! Much easier than the explode/ implode option... All you do is go under Mass Edit, choose the Canonic Plug-in, then choose "chord inversion down" (since that's what I wanted) - click "apply" and viola! No fuss, no mess! Thanks so much! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rearranging chords
On Jun 20, 2006, at 2:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sounds like a job for the Canonic Utilities plug-in.What's that, and where can I get it?! :)Thanks!___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rearranging chords
Thanks so much, Chuck! I didn't even think of that, but it worked just fine! Only thing now is it put 3 chord symbols on top of each other when I imploded the staves back together! Any way to tell it to only leave 1 chord symbol and get rid of the other 2 - or do I have to manually hit delete twice on each chord? :) If I'd have realized it was going to do this, I guess the solution would've been to delete the chords off the extra staves before imploding, but now I've made a bunch of other edits I don't want to lose... On Jun 20, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: Jacki, How about exploding the music (using the mass edit tool) into new staves, transposing the top note (staff) down the octave and imploding the staves? Maybe there's an easier way, but that's what occurs to me. Chuck On Jun 20, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone... Is there some easy way to change all chords in a song to invert the top note down to the bottom? For example, I have a song that has soprano, alto, tenor all together in one layer on a staff and I need to switch the order to have the alto note become the soprano note, the tenor note to become the alto note, and the soprano to go to the bottom of the chord and become the tenor note... Any way other than manually dragging each note down to the bottom of each chord?!! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Rearranging chords
Hi, Everyone... Is there some easy way to change all chords in a song to invert the top note down to the bottom? For example, I have a song that has soprano, alto, tenor all together in one layer on a staff and I need to switch the order to have the alto note become the soprano note, the tenor note to become the alto note, and the soprano to go to the bottom of the chord and become the tenor note... Any way other than manually dragging each note down to the bottom of each chord?!! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sustain When Importing Midi Files
On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:45 AM, dhbailey wrote: That's in the Playback Controls. Click on the little speaker icon to open the Playback Settings dialog, then click on Playback Options. Uncheck the boxes for the four boxes which have labels that begin "Play Recorded" and you'll get the notation as it appears onscreen with none of your recorded data being played back. THANKS so much! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Sustain When Importing Midi Files
On Jun 18, 2006, at 10:44 PM, Cecil Rigby wrote: you don't say what version or platform you're using... Sorry about that! I keep forgetting... I'm running FinMac 2005b. Your instructions did work, though, so thanks so much! One other question now that's midi related. How can I get Finale to play it just as it's written instead of how I played it - I mean holding a quarter note the full length instead of chopping off the end as in how I played it in the Digital Performer file... Is there some command or setting to get Finale to ignore the "performance data" and just play it as it's displaying on the page? Thanks so much! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Sustain When Importing Midi Files
Hi, Everyone... I've created a midi file from Digital Performer. It's a piano part and I used the sustain pedal throughout the song. It has carried over into Finale when I imported the midi file. However, the "off" doesn't seem to be working and I get a jumbled mess! Is there some way to just have Finale delete all sustain pedal controllers? I don't see anywhere you can get into the actual midi data within Finale to delete or edit things like this... A search in the manual didn't come up with anything. Thanks for any help! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting Layers to Look Right
On May 8, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: For that single 8th note, put all the notes on a single stem in layer 1, like a chord. In the other layers, put in an eighth rest and hide it so it doesn't display. Or you may find that it looks better to leave the notes in separate layers, with stems in different directions. It is not always true that a single stem is best when rhythms are the same. Thanks a bunch - it definitely looks better in this case with a single stem due to the flags all hanging out, which makes it look like a 32nd note! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Getting Layers to Look Right
Hi, Everyone - I have a song where just 2 measures need layers for 3 voices. The last beat of the measure, all 3 notes are back together rhythm-wise and I need the stems and flags to all match up again (they're 8th notes). When I flip the stems, it's showing multiple flags... What do you do to make this look right (have them all share the stem and flag again)? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Merging Notes
On May 7, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Implode is what you want. You will have to create a new dummy staff which will be deleted afterward directly under the target staff. Let's call the earlier passage A and the later passage B. Copy A to the dummy staff so that it is aligned with B. Select B and the A directly underneath it with Mass Edit. Hit 1 (or select Implode from the menu). Delete the dummy staff. Done. Thanks so much, Christopher for the explanation - it's weird that they call "merging" "imploding"!! I would like to see a simple "Merge" option under the "Edit" menu so you can copy and paste without going through all that other stuff! Anyway - the 2 rhythms are identical, so it sounds like this option will work fine for me. Thanks again - I really appreciate it! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Merging Notes
On May 6, 2006, at 9:27 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Have you perhaps checked the Manual under MERGING MUSIC? Okay - now I did a search on "merging music" and nothing came up either! I did find "merging music" in the index, but when I click on it, it takes me to something called "imploding music" which doesn't sound like what I'm doing (everything I have is on a single staff already) - and I can't find anything about actually "merging" when pasting If you could point me to the right page of the manual I'll be happy to look it up! BTW, I'm using Fin-Mac 2005b... Thanks, Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Merging Notes
On May 6, 2006, at 9:27 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Have you perhaps checked the Manual under MERGING MUSIC? I did a search on "merge" and nothing came up... Sorry. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Merging Notes
Hi, Everyone... Is there some easy way to merge notes together... For example, I have a section of single notes and I want to merge another section of single notes by copying them and pasting onto the other section but add to those notes instead of replacing them like normal pasting does...?? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tie Question
Hi, Everyone - Just thought I'd update you on this. I finally called MakeMusic's tech support to ask if there's a way to do this tie thing. He said there isn't, but offered a work-around that did okay. I just put in multiple slurs on that chord and then placed them to look like the 3 notes were tied... Seems Finale should be able to handle something as common as this, but at least that made it look right! - Jacki On May 2, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Éric Dussault wrote: Le 06-05-02 à 21:47, Jacki Barineau a écrit : I'm having another problem with a needed backwards tie that's not working :( It's right after a repeat sign. The last beat of the measure with the repeat contains an Eb chord (Eb, G, Bb) that has a tie I've shortened in length to go with the first chord in the first measure that gets repeated... No problem there. The problem is with the first chord in the measure after the measure with the repeat sign. It seem that it doesn't work in this situation. It would if you had a tie end starting a second ending. sorry. Eric Dussault Finale 2006c for Mac Real-time Finale discussion - http://www.finaleirc.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Extracting Notes From Chords
Hi, Everyone... Is there some way to extract, for example, the top note in every chord in a song? Or the middle note or bottom note? I have a song that is 3-part harmony, all on 1 staff, no layers. Can this be done simply, or do I have to manually erase the notes I don't want?! What I'm wanting is to make a separate file for each of the 3 parts. Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Keeps Changing Chord Name!
On May 4, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Rafael wrote: Chord tool menu. Uncheck the simplify spelling option. That should do it. THANK you! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale Keeps Changing Chord Name!
Hi, Everyone... I'm trying to put a Cbmaj9 chord symbol in the key of Gb major but every time I enter it, Finale changes it to read "Bmaj9". How can I make it leave it as a Cbmaj9??!! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tie Question
On May 2, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Éric Dussault wrote: have you tried checking «tie end» when, in speedy, you ctrl-option click the measure? When I ctrl-option click the measure, nothing happens :( I'm using Fin-Mac 2005b BTW... The other weird thing is even though it's putting the backwards tie on the lower 2 notes of this chord, when I click "Tools" and the tie adjustment tool, then click in that measure - no ties are shown at all... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tie Question
I'm having another problem with a needed backwards tie that's not working :( It's right after a repeat sign. The last beat of the measure with the repeat contains an Eb chord (Eb, G, Bb) that has a tie I've shortened in length to go with the first chord in the first measure that gets repeated... No problem there. The problem is with the first chord in the measure after the measure with the repeat sign. It's a Cm chord (Eb, G, C) - and when I do the "shift-T" in Speedy Entry to get my backwards repeat, it will put a tie on the bottom 2 notes (Eb and G) I'm assuming since the preceding chord also contains these notes. But it won't put a backwards short tie on the C... In another song, I know I made this work somehow even with NO notes (a rest) in the preceding measure... Any clue what the problem might be?!!! Is there a way to manually draw in a tie?! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Adjusting Rests
Thanks a bunch! Got it to work :) - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Adjusting Rests
Hi, Everyone... Is there some way to force the rests in Layer 1 to move down into the "normal position" even though there's a layer 2 voice in the first beat of the measure? It just looks funny with them sticking up above the staff!! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Chord Question
On Apr 29, 2006, at 10:30 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: By the way, if the first chord, the correct version: G - F - Cb - Eb - G - Bb is supposed to be reproduced exactly how it is, it must be spelled 'Eb over G7'. Thanks for the ongoing discussion about this!! I'm learning a lot from you all! Okay - so it's appropriate to actually put a "double decker" chord symbol, such as Eb/G7? Is this common practice these days?! Just never heard of doing that :) Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Chord Question
On Apr 29, 2006, at 1:52 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Looks (and sounds) to me as if the C flat continues in that measure, which makes perfect sense harmonically. The result is not a C minor chord at all, it's a G 7 #5#9, and everything is right in the world of normal, functional, jazz harmony. Chuck DUH THANK you, Chuck, for noticing that C flat! I had totally missed that and that definitely makes all the difference, especially since the G7 #9/#5 chord is used elsewhere in this same song - just spelled a little differently as far as voicing... I'm going to recheck all the chords I've analyzed and make sure I'm not missing anything else like this - hope you don't mind me asking for verification on a few others I've figured out just to make sure! Thanks again, EVERYONE, who helped in solving this "mystery chord"!! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Chord Question
On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Stan Lord wrote: Just played this on the pno. and it sounds odd, in that I don't know the context. What are the preceding chord and melody and bass notes, and the following? Thanks, everyone, for helping me figure this out! Okay - I've taken a snapshot of the measure that includes the chord in question and a couple of measures after it... http://www.ourlittleplace.com/images/snapshot.jpg The chord I'm referring to is the 2nd chord in the first measure shown (following the Db9). While we're at it - I am calling the chord *after* the one in question (1st chord in the next measure) a Cm11 - is this also correct?! Like I said, this song is full of "jazz chords" that I'm just not familiar with!! Thanks again for the help with analysis! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: When you have selected one, there'll be a place to select "duplicate." Do this so that you are working with a copy of the original, and the original will remain untouched, in case you need it later. Then select the duplicate and find the "edit" button. Select that, and now you will be in the window that allows selection and positioning of chord suffix elements. A little playing with that should make it clear how to add and remove elements and position them vertically and horizontally. Try this, and if you have trouble after you've gotten this far, write again, and I'll continue to help, but this should become clear after a little playing with it. Thanks so much, Chuck - I got it! It's weird that they don't have a "large" parenthesis in there - I had to choose a larger font size to force it to work, but I think it's okay... They interestingly did have a "7 #9 #5" with the "#5" underneath the "#9" - just no ( ) - which I think makes it look better... Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord Symbol Question
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:28 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Always put the highest altered extension on top, and go down in order. IOW: #9 #5 in one ( ) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! Now the question is - how do I DO this in Finale?! I mean - how do I make it put these 2 intervals in one ( ) and underneath each other? I can't figure out how to type it in that way! Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Another Chord Question
I knew I'd have another question as soon as I sent the last note! It's been 23 years since I took music theory in college, and though I remember a lot, this song interpretation is really challenging my old brain here!! What I did is have the piano player play the song into a midi file so I could interpret the chords he's playing and notate the song for the composer (the piano player plays by ear only)... What is the "rule of thumb" on when you call a chord a 9th, 11th, or 13th? I remember something about the 7th needing to be present or otherwise you'd call it a 6th instead of 13th or an "add2" instead of a 9th...?? This particular chord definitely has the "dominant" feel/ sound to it and is used in that way as it leads to the tonic. The song is in Cm. This chord I'm trying to define is: G - F - C - Eb - G - Bb Would this be a Gm13? Or what?!! Thanks a bunch! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord Symbol Question
Hi, Everyone - I have a song with lots of "jazz chords" that I've never used before and need some help in how to display them properly! For example, a G7 (#5, #9) - how can I make it display with the #5 then the #9 underneath? Like this: G7(#5 #9) (except with only 1 set of parentheses) I might have further questions as I go in this song - thanks for any help!! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Playback of Chords
On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:33 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: Under the "Chords" pull-down menu, the last item is "Enable chord playback." Un-check that, and it should go away. THANK you! I really appreciate it! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Playback of Chords
Hi, Everyone - Is there some way to tell Finale NOT to play back the chords that are entered above a staff line? I need to hear the song without the chords Finale is trying to play :) Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Key Change Weirdness
On Apr 27, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: What you show here is "correct" practice. See, for example, Gardner Read, "Music Notation", p. 227. Read points out that while repeat signs often coincide with bar lines, they are not *actually* bar lines. He says: "When a change of meter or key signature comes at the beginning of a section to be repeated, the change is indicated on the staff *before* the position of the first repeat bar." And he gives an example very much like yours, except that the bar line before the key change is a double bar line. Thanks a bunch! That's what I needed to know - I'll leave it "correct" then :) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Key Change Weirdness
Hi, Everyone! I'm working on a song that has a key change right where a forward repeat needs to also be displayed. It looks like it's putting in an extra bar line for some reason. Is there a way to make this not do this?!! I've put a snapshot up on my site for you to see what I mean: http://www.ourlittleplace.com/images/snapshot.jpg Between measure 18 and 19 is where this "extra" bar line is showing... Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Stem Length and Beamed Notes
On Apr 4, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone - I read in the manual how to shorten the stems of beamed notes. However, when I do so, the beams disappear (not even leaving flags in their place)! I'm using Finale Mac version 2005b. How do I get the stems shortened without losing my beams?! Sorry - I figured it out... I was using the wrong tool :( ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tie Question
Thanks so much for the responses about the ties! I actually did the Speedy Entry, clicked into the measure, moved the cursor over the note I wanted the backwards half-tie, then "shift-T" put the tie there. I'm on a Mac using 2005b... Thanks again! Jacki On Mar 28, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Speedy Entry. Command-click (on Mac) or Control-Click the measure, and then you'll see it. Also look in the online documentation under Edit Frame. Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone... Is there some way to have a tie extend over a repeat situation? For example, a first and second ending where the first note in the ending is tied to the last note in the measure preceding the endings? I guess I need something like a little "half tie" to go with the first note of the 2nd ending to show it's a tied note...? Also, where it's repeating back to the beginning of the verse - that first note is also a tied note so I would need the last note in the 1st ending to have some kind of "half tie" to show it's tied to the note it's about to repeat back to... Hope this makes sense... If not, I can snapshot the example for you to show what I mean. I thought about making the repeats go to a measure where there isn't a tied note but this song pretty much has tied notes at the beginning and ending of each measure (going from the last note of the measure to the first note of the next measure)...??!! Help! Thanks, Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Stem Length and Beamed Notes
Hi, Everyone - I read in the manual how to shorten the stems of beamed notes. However, when I do so, the beams disappear (not even leaving flags in their place)! I'm using Finale Mac version 2005b. How do I get the stems shortened without losing my beams?! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Tie Question
Hi, Everyone... Is there some way to have a tie extend over a repeat situation? For example, a first and second ending where the first note in the ending is tied to the last note in the measure preceding the endings? I guess I need something like a little "half tie" to go with the first note of the 2nd ending to show it's a tied note...? Also, where it's repeating back to the beginning of the verse - that first note is also a tied note so I would need the last note in the 1st ending to have some kind of "half tie" to show it's tied to the note it's about to repeat back to... Hope this makes sense... If not, I can snapshot the example for you to show what I mean. I thought about making the repeats go to a measure where there isn't a tied note but this song pretty much has tied notes at the beginning and ending of each measure (going from the last note of the measure to the first note of the next measure)...??!! Help! Thanks, Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Shifting Music
On Mar 26, 2006, at 11:51 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: So, to particularize my response: in the first measure where the melody was in the wrong place, after making certain that the "rebar music" box was _not_ checked I'd make certain that the values in the "measures in the range of " otpion both contained the measure number of the measure I wanted to change, I'd change the meter / time signature of the measure by adding two beats (that is, if the desired measure had a time signature of 4/4 before, it would have a time signature of 6/4 after). Then I'd insert a half note rest at the beginning of the measure in which I just changed the meter signature. Then, making sure that the "rebar music" option was selected, I'd place the measure number of the measure I'd changed as the first measure of the range, and place the appropriate value as the highest measure number in the range, and change the time signature back to what it originally was (in the case of my example, 4/4). Thanks a bunch - this worked perfectly! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Shifting Music
On Mar 27, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: Or maybe just Select Partial Measures, Copy the music, add in a beat, then Paste the selected music? Interestingly, This is what I tried the first time (before I wrote the list asking for help!) - and it worked at the beginning but about 10 measures into the song it went wacky again for some reason... So I wondered if there were another (possibly better) way! :) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Shifting Music
On Mar 26, 2006, at 3:54 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Maybe. But since the exact details of how to do it depend upon knowing more about your score, more information would be useful. Does the part of the music you need to shift lie in only one layer? Only one staff? All staves? Sorry for the vagueness... The song is a simple lead sheet - melody line only (1 staff), 1 layer at this point. Thanks so much for the response! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Lyrics Colliding
on 6/18/05 4:23 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: > If you have locked the systems (in Mass Edit, little non-printing > padlocks show up in the right-hand margin) then Finale is prevented > from re-flowing crowded measures to the next system. Select All and > find Unlock Systems in the Mass Edit menu (on Mac the command for this > is command-U; I don't know the PC keystroke) then do what Hal suggested > and Update Layout for it all to take effect. > > In reality, though, the algorithm for spacing when lyrics are taken > into account is badly designed. You may have to make quite a lot of > manual adjustments in any case, no matter how you end up spacing > automatically. Having a long syllable like "through" on a short > rhythmic value messes the entire measure up. Turning OFF lyric > collisions, respacing just that measure with Mass Edit 4, then manually > adjusting (including resizing the measure) is the only way I know of to > work it out. TG Tools has some additional help, but I don't imagine you > have that. Thanks, Christopher, for the additional info! This was a song I originally scanned in, and I *thought* when I chose the Page Format and then "Reformat Pages" it erased all the little padlock thingies. But maybe it really didn't remove that formatting... Anyway - I checked and my version (2005) does have "TG Tools"... Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Lyrics Colliding
on 6/18/05 3:42 PM, Harold Owen wrote: > Jacki, > > Go to Options/Document Options/Music Spacing and check "Lyrics" under > "Avoid collision" Select measures where lyrics collide, and press > 4, then update the layout. If that doesn't solve the problem, you may > have to use "Fit Music" to arrange for fewer measures per system. Thanks so much, Hal! The "4" did the trick - what is that a command for anyway?! Neat little thing there...! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Lyrics Colliding
Hi - I'm working on a song and even though I've chosen for it not to let lyrics collide, they are doing so! Instead of manually having to space out every single spot this is happening, is there some automatic way of doing this?! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Note Moving
Hi - Is there an easy way to move a note or group of notes from one clef to the other? I'm working on a piano part that's split point moved around a lot, so I now have several notes in the treble that need to move down to the bass. Is there some way of doing this without just deleting the note from the treble and putting it manually into the bass? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Another Notation Question!
Thanks a bunch, everyone, for the "bad news"! I'd rather know what's wrong than continue to notate incorrectly! I just feel so "rusty" on all this - it was over 20 years ago that I was in college as a composition major, and I'm really just now getting back into serious notating! So I appreciate you all bearing with me here... Okay - I've revised these 2 measures and uploaded them to: http://www.ourlittleplace.com/snapshot2.jpg The first one, for reference is still there, too, at: http://www.ourlittleplace.com/snapshot.jpg Before I go any further in correcting the rest of the song, could y'all tell me if this is correct now? The only other thing I wasn't sure about is the beaming - when to and when not to in vocals... Seems like there's some rule about not beaming if there are different syllables...? And thanks for the book recommendations! I will try to get these as soon as I can - I just have to have this particular song ready by tonight, so I really appreciate your help with this! - Jacki P.S. I'm so glad that my post at least got Darcy and Christopher to agree on something! :) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Another Notation Question!
Boy, it looks like I really stirred things up with my question about suspended chords, etc.!! Hope this one is more straightforward! I was wondering which is the proper way to notate syncopated rhythms for vocals... Whether, for example, it's better to use all 16th's and tie the syncopated notes together - or to use 16th's followed by off-the-beat 8th's...? I've taken a snapshot which shows the 2 ways I'm referring to - Staff 1, measure 1 is showing method 2 - Staff 2 is showing method 1... Which would be correct for vocals? And would you notate a piano (or any other instrumental) part differently? I've uploaded the snapshot to my web site at: http://www.ourlittleplace.com/snapshot.jpg Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tempo in Hyperscribe
on 4/25/05 5:13 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: > Hi again, Everyone... I'm trying to use hyperscribe for the first time and > can't figure out how to get it to slow down the tempo during recording! I'm > use the internal metronome (not tap tempo) and have set the tempo in the > playback controls at 70. If I choose playback it plays at that speed. > However, when I start up hyperscribe to record, it plays way faster and I > can't keep up with it! Where do I tell it what speed to play during > recording?? Okay - answering my own post... I found the spot in the click options that tells hyperscribe how fast to click... However, it is now changing tempos right in the middle after clicking the 2 countoff measures. It starts clicking the countoff at the tempo I told it to - then when the actual recording begins, it speeds back up to the old original tempo that is too fast to play to! Isn't there some way to tell it to stay at one consistent tempo throughout the whole song (to "reset" the tempo or something)? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Tempo in Hyperscribe
Hi again, Everyone... I'm trying to use hyperscribe for the first time and can't figure out how to get it to slow down the tempo during recording! I'm use the internal metronome (not tap tempo) and have set the tempo in the playback controls at 70. If I choose playback it plays at that speed. However, when I start up hyperscribe to record, it plays way faster and I can't keep up with it! Where do I tell it what speed to play during recording?? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notating Suspendeds
on 4/25/05 1:01 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > * Some guy I knew at NEC wrote a tune called "What a Friend We Have in > Gsus". Oh how funny!! :) Thanks for the explanations, everyone - I think I get it now! Basically, if a chord has the root, third, and fifth and then an additional note - it's an "add X"... If it's missing the 3rd and has the 4th - it's a sus or sus4. If it's missing the 3rd and has the 2nd it's a sus2... Is that about it?! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Notating Suspendeds
Hi, Everyone... I was wondering what the "rule" is as far as when to call a chord a "suspended" chord or an "add X" chord. For example, a Gsus4 - meaning G in the root, then C, then D... I have seen this same chord sometimes labelled as a "GaddC" or "Gadd4". Is it only referred to as the "suspended 4th" (or 2nd or whatever the case may be) if the 4th is going to resolve to the 3rd? I personally have always called this chord a Gsus4... But now I'm notating for a client and want to make sure I have it right! Another question is the "9th" chord vs. the "sus2" chord or "add2"... For example, G9 - would be G-B-D-F-A. If the F is left out, I'm assuming that's when you'd refer to is as a "Gsus2" instead? Or is Gadd2 or GaddA also proper terminology? I would always call this a Gsus2...?? Another similar example/question is the 6th chord. For example a C6 (C-E-G-A) - I've seen this called a C13 (since A is also the 13th!) - is this correct - or only in certain situations - i.e., if the 7th, 9th, or 11th is also present? Just trying to brush up on my music theory - it's been a while since I've had to dig into this deeper stuff! Thanks for any clarification of this! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Rates for Notation/Transcription?
Hi, Everyone - It's been a long time since I've done any notation or transcription for people for a fee. I wondered what the "going rates" are these days? I used to charge $10 per page 20 years ago! Is there a "per page" rate that most people use now? What about for transcription from a CD (figuring out the parts/notes with no draft manuscript to go by)...? Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How Do You Reposition Staves?!
on 4/13/05 2:46 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > How's this work for you: Staff Tool, grab staff handles and drag them into > place, then Staff | Sort staves and Staff | Respace staves? Thanks, Dennis - That got it! Okay - is there any easy/quick way to move the chords to the "new" top staff?! I'd attached them to the original top staff so now they're showing up in the 2nd staff instead of the top one! :( ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] How Do You Reposition Staves?!
Hey, Everyone... Working on a time crunch here and can't seem to find this in the manual - I'm sure I'm just not using the correct search terms - that seems to always be my problem! What Finale calls things isn't what I would think they would be called! Anyway - I have a score with 3 vocal staves and a piano staff at the bottom. I need to swap 2 of the vocal staves with each other (moving my 2nd staff to the top and the top staff in the middle). How do you do this?!!! Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder
Title: Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder on 2/24/05 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just said "bend" in italics. I think sometimes there was a diagonal line too . I must admit I've not seen it very often as I tend to stay away from jazz in case it makes me ill. :-) LOL!! :) Thanks, Lawrence – that should make sense I would think... (the bend part I mean!) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder
Title: Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder on 2/23/05 6:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 23/02/2005 23:10:02 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know how you notate those "slides" they do - like when they hit a low note and kind of "float" up to a higher note? When I've come across this type of thing it hasn't been notated, it's something you add as an improvised ornament. Would the standard glissando mark be used for this? One more question...!! I’ve forgotten how to notate the notes involved in a glissando – the way it is being played is a 16th note, followed by an 8th rhythmically. So would I just put those 2 notes as the 16th and 8th and put the gliss. between them? Or would I put 2 8th notes with the glissando and it would be understood that the first note is quicker and the 2nd note is the one the glissando “lands” on? Thanks again! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder
on 2/24/05 10:58 AM, John Howell wrote: > It isn't part of Baroque recorder technique, but I'd suggest using > the jazz signs for pull up and fall off to get the idea across. > > Also, just to make sure you know, unless your player asks for > something else it should be notated in treble clef at concert pitch > (not transposed) in the octave from the F above middle C to the F two > octaves higher (F1-F3 Helmholtz notation). That way a Celtic flutist > can read from the same part. Alto players reading from vocal > notation read from notation an octave lower and play it up an octave, > but solo parts are almost always notated at pitch. Thanks for the tips, John - I appreciate it! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Question About Staff Order
on 2/23/05 6:01 PM, dhbailey wrote: > Generally I've seen this with the recorder on top (I just checked a > German edition of a Handel Cantata for soprano and recorder and > keyboard) with the vocal line next, and the keyboard (or other > instrumental accompaniment) parts underneath that. Thanks, David - That makes sense! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Notation for Recorder
on 2/23/05 6:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I've come across this type of thing it hasn't been notated, it's > something you add as an improvised ornament. > > Would the standard glissando mark be used for this? > > I've seen the indication "bend" in some music which wants this type of thing, > but this was "jazzy" type stuff, not Celtic. Thanks, Lawrence... I bet you're right about the gliss. Mark for the "slides". So where you've seen the "bend" indication - is it just the word "bend" itself, or is there a symbol for this? Thanks again, everyone! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Notation for Recorder
Hi, Everyone - I have another question about notating for alto recorder! Does anyone know how you notate those "slides" they do - like when they hit a low note and kind of "float" up to a higher note? Or when they hit a note and kind of "droop" down to the next note. Don't know if I'm explaining this right, but it's done frequently in Celtic style recorder playing! I have an mp3 file (18 seconds) that would show what I'm talking about but I wasn't sure if it's okay to post attachments to this list! Thanks for any help with this! I've never notated for recorder before, so between that and learning Finale(!) - I just figured out how to do the grace notes, but just wasn't sure how to notate these "slide" things... - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Question About Staff Order
Hi - I'm notating a song that has a vocal staff and an alto recorder staff. Is there a "rule" about which staff should be the top one in each system? The recorder begins the song, then the vocals take over, then the recorder re-enters in the middle of the song... Thanks! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respacing Music
on 2/21/05 3:53 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: > Jacki, > > You'll have to respace it before updating layout. > > The easiest way to respace is Mass Edit tool, Select All (cmd-A) then > hit the number 4 over the E and R keys, which is the MetaTool for Note > Spacing. You may have to unlock the systems if they are locked, so that > the respacing actually has someplace to send the squooshed bars if it > has to. Thanks, Christopher! I got it fixed now... This is taking some relearning to get used to how Finale does things compared to my old software, but I'm starting to get the hang of it! - Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Respacing Music
on 2/21/05 3:49 PM, d. collins wrote: > Jacki Barineau écrit: >> Hi, Everyone - I have a song that I've changed the time signature a few >> times and had it "rebar" - which it did. However, now several of my lyrics >> are "squooshed" together and even though I've chosen "Update Layout" and >> made sure it says for lyrics not to collide or anything, it's not reflowing >> for some reason. How do you get Finale to respace everything to not collide >> when you add things like this? > > Did you "respace" the music (Mass Mover, Music spacing)? Thanks, Dennis - that was it. I'm very new to Finale, having converted over from MOTU's "Mosaic" since they never upgraded to OS X for Mac! I'm finding Finale not too hard to learn - but kind of difficult to find out the terminology for what I'm trying to do - and then finding it in the manual! I had been looking at "measure spacing" and wasn't getting anywhere. The music spacing is the one I needed and it's now fine, thanks so much! Jacki ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Respacing Music
Hi, Everyone - I have a song that I've changed the time signature a few times and had it "rebar" - which it did. However, now several of my lyrics are "squooshed" together and even though I've chosen "Update Layout" and made sure it says for lyrics not to collide or anything, it's not reflowing for some reason. How do you get Finale to respace everything to not collide when you add things like this? Thanks! Jacki :) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
