Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-30 Thread dhbailey
Don Hart wrote:
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.
If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.
Thanks,
Don Hart
Great idea!  Even of others shoot you down for it, if it's something you 
think would benefit you, you should make a request for it anyway.  You 
have just as much say in such matters as any of the rest of us do!

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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Go ahead, and I may do that, too. I also miss this feature, especially
as I have changed from articulation dynamics to expression dynamics, and
most of the time they absolutely need to be note expressions, but still
appear in several or all staves.
Johannes
Don Hart wrote:
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.
If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.
Thanks,
Don Hart
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Strictly speaking, that's not true. As I demonstrated with my dynamic
articulations library years ago you can use the shape designer to quite
easily construct multi-character articulations.
However, that doesn't mean that articulations are the solution,
especially as normal dynamics don't play back properly when they are
entered as artics.
Johannes
Darcy James Argue wrote:
But then we'd lose all of the advantages of post Fin2004 text 
expressions.  Also, articulations can only be a single character.

- Darcy
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On 29 Jan 2005, at 7:22 PM, Harold Owen wrote:
Don,
You could add text expressions to the Articulation Window. Then you 
could enter them like articulations. You can even set up key 
velocities for them.

Hal
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was 
implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff 
lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note 
positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.

If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to 
Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.

Thanks,
Don Hart
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Go ahead, and I may do that, too. I also miss this feature, especially 
as I have changed from articulation dynamics to expression dynamics, and 
most of the time they absolutely need to be note expressions, but still 
appear in several or all staves.

Johannes
Don Hart wrote:
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.
If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.
Thanks,
Don Hart
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Strictly speaking, that's not true. As I demonstrated with my dynamic 
articulations library years ago you can use the shape designer to quite 
easily construct multi-character articulations.

However, that doesn't mean that articulations are the solution, 
especially as normal dynamics don't play back properly when they are 
entered as artics.

Johannes
Darcy James Argue wrote:
But then we'd lose all of the advantages of post Fin2004 text 
expressions.  Also, articulations can only be a single character.

- Darcy
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On 29 Jan 2005, at 7:22 PM, Harold Owen wrote:
Don,
You could add text expressions to the Articulation Window. Then you 
could enter them like articulations. You can even set up key 
velocities for them.

Hal
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was 
implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff 
lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note 
positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.

If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to 
Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.

Thanks,
Don Hart
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[Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-29 Thread Don Hart
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.

I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.

If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.

Thanks,

Don Hart

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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Don,
This is the first thing I suggest to MacSupport when Finale 2004 first 
came out.  I've been suggesting it regularly ever since.  Maybe if more 
people write to Coda about it, we can get this feature added for 
Fin2006.

- Darcy
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On 29 Jan 2005, at 5:56 PM, Don Hart wrote:
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes 
by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented 
and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff 
lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note 
positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.

If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to 
Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.

Thanks,
Don Hart
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-29 Thread Don Hart
Darcy,

I shot the request off to Coda.  Now that you mention it, I probably did see
your post on the matter.  However, it was back when my older machine had me
stuck in 2002, so it didn't mean a lot to me at the time.

This would be a significant improvement to the expression tool for me, for
the way I work.  I'd love to see it happen.

Don Hart


on 1/29/05 4:59 PM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Don,
 
 This is the first thing I suggest to MacSupport when Finale 2004 first
 came out.  I've been suggesting it regularly ever since.  Maybe if more
 people write to Coda about it, we can get this feature added for
 Fin2006.
 
 - Darcy
 -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Brooklyn, NY
 
 
 On 29 Jan 2005, at 5:56 PM, Don Hart wrote:
 
 Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
 
 I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes
 by
 drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
 natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented
 and I
 had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff
 lists,
 but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note
 positioning is
 available, this would be quicker and more convenient.
 
 If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to
 Coda
 and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Don Hart
 
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-29 Thread Owain Sutton

Don Hart wrote:
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.

I agree, particularly when I've had hundreds of 'sfz's to deal with 
(yeah, it was that kind of piece :p )  However, I feel that the whole 
implementation of expressions needs a complete overhaul, far more than 
the tinkering with definitions seen in recent versions.  The caveat is 
that it's well down on my list of 'things that need sorting out', due to 
other things currently being in almost-unusable states (nonstandard key 
signatures, anyone?)
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-29 Thread Harold Owen
Don,
You could add text expressions to the Articulation Window. Then you 
could enter them like articulations. You can even set up key 
velocities for them.

Hal
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.
If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.
Thanks,
Don Hart
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Re: [Finale] Note expression feature request

2005-01-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
But then we'd lose all of the advantages of post Fin2004 text 
expressions.  Also, articulations can only be a single character.

- Darcy
-
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Brooklyn, NY
On 29 Jan 2005, at 7:22 PM, Harold Owen wrote:
Don,
You could add text expressions to the Articulation Window. Then you 
could enter them like articulations. You can even set up key 
velocities for them.

Hal
Maybe this has been suggested before, but if it has I've missed it.
I would love to be able to apply note expressions to a group of notes 
by
drag selecting, just like we can articulations.  It seems like such a
natural I actually tried it once to see if the feature was 
implemented and I
had just missed it.  I realize we have measure expressions and staff 
lists,
but for a lot of things, especially now that automatic note 
positioning is
available, this would be quicker and more convenient.

If not too many of you shoot a hole in my notion I'll send this of to 
Coda
and request that any of you that like the idea follow suit.

Thanks,
Don Hart
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