[Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-27 Thread Ken Moore

Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Frankly, I have subscribed to lists where the moderators are way far
 the other direction...everything gets policed and they are always
 stepping in.  That can be a real drag

I quite agree.  I left the mailing list of the Society for Musical 
Analysis not too long after joining it.  I got the impression that the 
moderator was partisan (protecting the views of his Schenkerian friends 
from contradiction), and discovered from private emails that others 
shared my opinion.  This was some time ago, and I don't recall who it was.


The best way to run a list is to expect the contributors to be moderate 
themselves, excluding them, after due warning, if they transgress 
persistently.



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Ken Moore
Musician and engineer

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Re: [Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Aug 2005 at 21:35, Ken Moore wrote:

 The best way to run a list is to expect the contributors to be
 moderate themselves, excluding them, after due warning, if they
 transgress persistently.

That's all well and good, and something that we can all agree on.

But it's completely orthogonal to the types of problems that have 
caused people to complain in the last week, because the two issues 
that were annoying people could only be resolved by the list owner. 
There is nothing that any subscribers could do to unsubscribe the 
autoresponding bozo's address or change the way the list writes the 
Reply-To address.

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David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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Re: [Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-26 Thread Peter

Darcy James Argue:


It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.


Darcy, I have to say I feel you are being unfair and unkind to Henry. 
Although I don't post frequently these days, I for one am very appreciative 
of the service he and his employers provide for us all.  It's not his fault 
that Mr McGann forgot to omit this list from his auto responses, and it's 
not as though Henry could or should have been anticipated it - I don't 
remember it ever happening before, do you?


It seems to me we are lately becoming increasingly intolerant and combative. 
Maybe we need a gentle reminder that a few unwise words recently resulted in 
the loss of our valued friend Jari.  I couldn't blame Henry if he feels 
similarly when he reads this thread.



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Re: [Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-26 Thread Phil Daley

At 8/26/2005 09:36 AM, Peter wrote:

 It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.

Darcy, I have to say I feel you are being unfair and unkind to Henry.
Although I don't post frequently these days, I for one am very appreciative
of the service he and his employers provide for us all.  It's not his fault
that Mr McGann forgot to omit this list from his auto responses, and it's
not as though Henry could or should have been anticipated it - I don't
remember it ever happening before, do you?

I has happened at least several times before, and Henry has always stepped 
in and fixed the problem.


Phil Daley   AutoDesk 
http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley



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Re: [Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-26 Thread Robert Patterson
The most aggravating part of unwelcome list msgs (autoreplies, spam, 
etc.) is all the complaint threads that follow. If everyone would bite 
his/her tongue when such nusiance msgs come thru we'd all be happier.


Henry is, after all, an intelligent adult. Why don't we trust him to do 
his job when he is able to?


At the very least, much as this feels like talking to the sky, can we 
not keep complaint messages off-list?


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Re: [Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-26 Thread Karen


I second what Bob is saying.  I have an e-mail filter that is sending  
all the auto respond messages to their own folder until the lister  
comes back and sets things right.  Not a big deal IMHOand  
certainly a small inconvenience compared to the benefits I have  
enjoyed due to the wonderful community of people we have on this list  
and all the new friends I have made because of this list.


Frankly, I have subscribed to lists where the moderators are way far  
the other direction...everything gets policed and they are always  
stepping in.  That can be a real drag


Gratefully yours,

Karen




The most aggravating part of unwelcome list msgs (autoreplies,  
spam, etc.) is all the complaint threads that follow. If everyone  
would bite his/her tongue when such nusiance msgs come thru we'd  
all be happier.



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Re: [Finale] OT: Thanks for your mail etc

2005-08-26 Thread Peter

Phil Daley:

I has happened at least several times before, and Henry has always stepped 
in and fixed the problem.


Thanks for that, but what's your point?  There could be any number of 
reasons why he's not been able to step in this time.  I just hope nothing's 
wrong.


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