Re: [Finale] Time Lag
dhbailey / 2006/12/11 / 06:04 AM wrote: The Audigy has fine midi interfaces (2) built in. Huh. When I first googled, like this page: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/creativeaudigy2/index.html Has no mention of MIDI function. So, it seems the latest driver was dated September this year. Is the original poster has this driver? (How many times did I ask this? :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Time Lag
I am always impressed with the decency of the members, and the concern they show in their attempts to solve other people's problems. Many thanks to all of you who have submitted suggestions. Since my computer is now three years old (somewhat of an antique in this age of rapid change) I think it best to upgrade. So I shall be scanning the trade mags to find a supercharged, RAM crammed model and hope that will give me as good a service as my old one has done for the next three years. Once again, many thanks to you all. John Hughes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
Eric Dannewitz nailed it -- it's latency, and for immediate response when you hit a midi key, you need one or more of several things: A faster processor, more ram, a different playback engine. If you're trying to use GPO, which is extremely resource-hungry, while entering your music, you'll have to spend a lot of money to get a faster processor and lots more ram. Simply switch to using your normal soundcard playback synth and you'll most likely notice no latency at all. Then when you've got all the notes entered, switch to GPO. The reason it doesn't happen in Fin2004 is that it doesn't have GPO playback capability. You could consider using the same playback device you use in Fin2004 when you're entering music in Fin2006 or 2007. David H. Bailey John Hughes wrote: If anyone has the solution to this problem I would surely like to hear it. John - Original Message - From: John Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [Finale] Time Lag I feel sure some kind person would have the solution to my problem. In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. This first showed up when I installed WinFin 2007, hence I have not yet been able to use it. The problem has now infested my Fin2006. I have spent days off and on searching for ways to correct it, with no results. So far, my Fin2004 seems to be unaffected. If anyone has the solution to this I would be eternally grateful. John Hughes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
Eric Dannewitz / 2006/12/08 / 10:35 PM wrote: It's called LATENCY You need to perhaps get a better sound card or use a Midi module. It may be, or maybe not. The original poster was having the problem on input data, not playback (which includes patch through that many seems to think that is where the problem lies). Crappy MIDI driver can do this. You should check the driver is up to date first. Google around to see if your MIDI interface driver is known to be clean. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
Well, he said In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. Which, without any other information, would sound like latency problems. A-NO-NE Music wrote: Eric Dannewitz / 2006/12/08 / 10:35 PM wrote: It's called LATENCY You need to perhaps get a better sound card or use a Midi module. It may be, or maybe not. The original poster was having the problem on input data, not playback (which includes patch through that many seems to think that is where the problem lies). Crappy MIDI driver can do this. You should check the driver is up to date first. Google around to see if your MIDI interface driver is known to be clean. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
Eric Dannewitz / 2006/12/09 / 11:44 AM wrote: Well, he said In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. Which, without any other information, would sound like latency problems. No. He is getting _rests_ entered, meaning the input data is not reaching. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
Well, it could be a number of problems. Perhaps two problems. The time lag between pressing and hearing the sound is latency. The other problem, Speedy not catching up...could be because he's using GPO sounds and the latency for Finale to generate the sound first, then to update the screen might be making it delayed. Perhaps we need more specific information about this... A-NO-NE Music wrote: Eric Dannewitz / 2006/12/09 / 11:44 AM wrote: Well, he said In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. Which, without any other information, would sound like latency problems. No. He is getting _rests_ entered, meaning the input data is not reaching. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Time Lag
Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions, but I really think it is due somehow to the actual software. Everything was fine before Fin 2007. From the word 'go' I couldn't use it because of this fault. I continued using Fin2006. Then the other day I loaded Fin2007 and tried every possible way to fix it, to no avail. When I returned to Fin2006 I found that it had contracted the same fault. I have now gone back to using Fin2004, which is working OK. - No latency, which indicates that my keyboard and sound card must be alright. John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
John Hughes wrote: Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions, but I really think it is due somehow to the actual software. Everything was fine before Fin 2007. From the word 'go' I couldn't use it because of this fault. I continued using Fin2006. Then the other day I loaded Fin2007 and tried every possible way to fix it, to no avail. When I returned to Fin2006 I found that it had contracted the same fault. I have now gone back to using Fin2004, which is working OK. - No latency, which indicates that my keyboard and sound card must be alright. But you still haven't told us which playback device you were trying to use in Fin2007 -- was it GPO or were you using your basic soundcard synth? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
dhbailey wrote, WRT John Hughes complaint about delay in sound when using Fin 2k6 and 2k7: But you still haven't told us which playback device you were trying to use in Fin2007 -- was it GPO or were you using your basic soundcard synth? I would note further, and perhaps more fundamentally, that Mr. Hughes does not appear to have provided (at least in this thread, and if it was in a previous post, I've deleted it) any information on his platform. In the absence of details about the processor, clock speed, OS version, amount of installed memory, and sound card and driver, are we not guessing as to reasons for the behavior he describes? I remember an episode of latency, I think when I upgraded from 2k1 to 2k2 (or maybe from 2k2 to 2k3), and it was quickly fixed by upping the amount of memory, though I don't necessarily mean to imply that this is the problem in this case. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
If anyone has the solution to this problem I would surely like to hear it. John - Original Message - From: John Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [Finale] Time Lag I feel sure some kind person would have the solution to my problem. In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. This first showed up when I installed WinFin 2007, hence I have not yet been able to use it. The problem has now infested my Fin2006. I have spent days off and on searching for ways to correct it, with no results. So far, my Fin2004 seems to be unaffected. If anyone has the solution to this I would be eternally grateful. John Hughes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
It's called LATENCY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latency You need to perhaps get a better sound card or use a Midi module. John Hughes wrote: If anyone has the solution to this problem I would surely like to hear it. John - Original Message - From: John Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [Finale] Time Lag I feel sure some kind person would have the solution to my problem. In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. This first showed up when I installed WinFin 2007, hence I have not yet been able to use it. The problem has now infested my Fin2006. I have spent days off and on searching for ways to correct it, with no results. So far, my Fin2004 seems to be unaffected. If anyone has the solution to this I would be eternally grateful. John Hughes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Lag
Once again I had this problem on my old computer when I had memory issues. (512Mb of RAM) It was especially bad when other programs were running in the background. Since changing to a 2gb machine I have not had this problem. All the best, Lawrence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Time Lag
I feel sure some kind person would have the solution to my problem. In speedy entry there is a time lag between the moment I press the key on my keyboard and when the sound appears. This in itself is annoying, but when I am entering a string of notes I first get a measure full of rests, then eventually the notes begin appearing. This makes it impossible to work. This first showed up when I installed WinFin 2007, hence I have not yet been able to use it. The problem has now infested my Fin2006. I have spent days off and on searching for ways to correct it, with no results. So far, my Fin2004 seems to be unaffected. If anyone has the solution to this I would be eternally grateful. John Hughes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
