[Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
Hi, I'm in the process of creating my first Fink package, but I seem to running into a minor problem with the CustomMirror field. I need to use a custom mirror because the package is unavailable at any of the standard Fink mirrors. So, I've specified the following in my .info file: CustomMirror: nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/ Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar When Fink tries to install this package, it's supposed to download the file at http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/aspectj-1.2.jar. At least, that's what I think it should do, based on the fields above. Instead, Fink for some reason tries to download the file at http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/aspectj-1.2.jar, which of course is unavailable. This causes curl to return a failure, and I get this prompt: (1) Give up (2) Retry the same mirror (3) Retry another mirror from your country (4) Retry another mirror (5) Retry using next mirror set Custom Mirror Now, my question is, why doesn't Fink go to the custom mirror I specified in the first place? Or at least, why doesn't Fink check the other mirrors automatically, instead of prompting me? I mean, if I were a user trying to install this package, and I saw the above prompt, I would think something has gone seriously wrong. Thanks for any advice, Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Trevor Harmon wrote: | Hi, | | I'm in the process of creating my first Fink package, but I seem to | running into a minor problem with the CustomMirror field. I need to use | a custom mirror because the package is unavailable at any of the | standard Fink mirrors. So, I've specified the following in my .info file: | | CustomMirror: | nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/ | | Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar | | When Fink tries to install this package, it's supposed to download the | file at http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/aspectj-1.2.jar. At | least, that's what I think it should do, based on the fields above. | Instead, Fink for some reason tries to download the file at | http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/aspectj-1.2.jar, which of course | is unavailable. This causes curl to return a failure, and I get this | prompt: | | (1) Give up | (2) Retry the same mirror | (3) Retry another mirror from your country | (4) Retry another mirror | (5) Retry using next mirror set Custom Mirror | | Now, my question is, why doesn't Fink go to the custom mirror I | specified in the first place? Because it is a good program and does exactly as you told it to do in your fink.conf. Have a look at the MirrorOrder: directive. Which can be set using fink configure. | Or at least, why doesn't Fink check the | other mirrors automatically, instead of prompting me? This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best choice in this case. - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBT9HrPMoaMn4kKR4RA67BAJ9wDfEMD6B6SV5u7GnawnHUaWWU7ACfao5P I7Ot+o6oWb1SPWZI2ZDUNCs= =jQ3T -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
On Sep 20, 2004, at 11:51 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote: When Fink tries to install this package, it's supposed to download the file at http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/aspectj-1.2.jar. At least, that's what I think it should do, based on the fields above. Instead, Fink for some reason tries to download the file at http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/aspectj-1.2.jar, which of course is unavailable. Oops, it's in the FAQ. I had checked it earlier, but this time I found it: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php#master-problems But my questions still stand... If a .info specifies a custom mirror, that's a good indication that the file is not in a master mirror, correct? So why does Fink try to check the master in the first place? And if it doesn't succeed, why doesn't Fink automatically move on to the next mirror instead of prompting me? Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
On Sep 21, 2004, at 12:02 AM, D. Höhn wrote: This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best choice in this case. Hmm... It still seems like a strange choice. I mean, why give up if there are still more mirrors to search? Perhaps there is a mailing list thread that explains what the thoughts were on this matter? After all, I've seen some .info files that specify five or six custom mirrors. Does that mean Fink will prompt me five or six times until it finds the file? Or will it just prompt after failing in the master, and then walk through the mirrors automatically, without prompting? OK, how about this: Let's say I get my .info working, and it gets accepted into the main Fink distribution (whatever that means). Will the source tarball for the package (or jar or whatever it is) eventually be placed into http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/? Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] DocFiles directory tree
Hi, The DocFiles field in a .info file can take any number of files and wildcards. However, the doc files that I would like to include in my package consist of several hundred files several directories deep. There seems to be no way of telling DocFiles, Add this directory, and all of the files in all of its subdirectories, to the DocFiles list, and preserve the original directory structure. In other words, DocFiles cannot recurse, and I am forced to add dozens and dozens of lines to the field. Is there a workaround? (I suppose I could write an install script to do it.) If not, I think DocFile recursion should be in the next version of Fink. Thanks, Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 12:05:37AM -0700, Trevor Harmon wrote: On Sep 20, 2004, at 11:51 PM, Trevor Harmon wrote: When Fink tries to install this package, it's supposed to download the file at http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/aspectj-1.2.jar. At least, that's what I think it should do, based on the fields above. Instead, Fink for some reason tries to download the file at http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/aspectj-1.2.jar, which of course is unavailable. Oops, it's in the FAQ. I had checked it earlier, but this time I found it: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php#master-problems But my questions still stand... If a .info specifies a custom mirror, that's a good indication that the file is not in a master mirror, correct? So why does Fink try to check the master in the first place? Incorrect. Fink's master mirror automatically mirrors source tarballs for packages that are part of the fink dist (those that are available via 'selfupdate') for which it is legal to do so. But also, all other sources behave the same way, i.e., a mirror:gnu file for a package you are just writing wouldn't be on finkmirrors either. dan -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] Re: Custom mirror not selected by default
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Trevor Harmon wrote: | On Sep 21, 2004, at 12:02 AM, D. Höhn wrote: | | This is a design choice. We have often thought on different ways to | handle such situations. We do agree that manual interaction is the best | choice in this case. | | | Hmm... It still seems like a strange choice. I mean, why give up if | there are still more mirrors to search? Perhaps there is a mailing list | thread that explains what the thoughts were on this matter? | I do not have such at hand, but you might find some by searching the logs for the IRC channel, as well as the mailing list archives. | After all, I've seen some .info files that specify five or six custom | mirrors. Does that mean Fink will prompt me five or six times until it | finds the file? Or will it just prompt after failing in the master, and | then walk through the mirrors automatically, without prompting? | When a download fails, for whatever reason, you will get a prompt. If it fails six times, you will get a prompt six times, because you might choose to change the mirror set before you have walked through all X choices of a particular one. | OK, how about this: Let's say I get my .info working, and it gets | accepted into the main Fink distribution (whatever that means). Will the | source tarball for the package (or jar or whatever it is) eventually be | placed into http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/? | As long as the License allows this, yes. See also message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -d -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBT/HQPMoaMn4kKR4RA+/ZAJ9lDwVgX3B9saU4yRePMhCec5zwZACfSQ4Z 0gmGQRxtk3hOG4/2+gXxZMw= =0OKh -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
On 21 sept. 2004, at 08:51, Trevor Harmon wrote: CustomMirror: nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/ Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar If you have only one URL for the source, it doesn't make sense to use the CustomMirror field (there is no *mirror*, after all, just the original source URL). If you do, it gives the exact same behavior as if you don't. -- Martin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] xearth-1.1-11
xearth would not build for me. I have Apple's X Windows on my machine. I get the complaints: Information about 2743 packages read in 2 seconds. The following package will be installed or updated: xearth /bin/rm -rf xearth-1.1-11 /bin/mkdir -p /sw/src/xearth-1.1-11 gzip -dc /sw/src/xearth-1.1.tar.gz | /sw/bin/tar -xf - xmkmf imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config make all /usr/bin/cc -g -Os -Wall -Wpointer-arith -no-cpp-precomp -I/usr/X11R6/include-D__DARWIN__ -DNO_ALLOCA -DX_LOCALE -DCSRG_BASED -I/sw/include -c -o xearth.o xearth.c In file included from xearth.c:46: xearth.h:49:21: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory In file included from xearth.c:54: /usr/include/sys/resource.h:81: error: field `ru_utime' has incomplete type /usr/include/sys/resource.h:82: error: field `ru_stime' has incomplete type xearth.c: In function `main': xearth.c:140: warning: implicit declaration of function `getpid' xearth.c: In function `output': xearth.c:209: warning: implicit declaration of function `fork' xearth.c: In function `using_x': xearth.c:426: warning: implicit declaration of function `strcmp' /usr/include/stdio.h: At top level: kljcpyrt.h:45: warning: `Copyright' defined but not used make: *** [xearth.o] Error 1 ### execution of failed, exit code 2 Failed: compiling xearth-1.1-11 failed -- Package manager version: 0.18.4 Distribution version: 0.7.0 Mac OS X version: 10.3.5 December 2001 Developer Tools gcc version: 3.3 make version: 3.79 Feedback Courtesy of FinkCommander -- Bob Sloan http://www.cs.uic.edu/~sloan/ Dept. of Computer Science (312) 996-2369 University of Illinois at Chicago --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] freeglut package
I have had my proposed freeglut packaging in tracker for awhile now and there has been no further comments even though it is still marked as undergoing evaluation. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=414256aid=1017330group_id=17203 Is there any particular problems with this package keeping it out of unstable? Jack --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
Trevor Harmon wrote: But my questions still stand... If a .info specifies a custom mirror, that's a good indication that the file is not in a master mirror, correct? So why does Fink try to check the master in the first place? And if it doesn't succeed, why doesn't Fink automatically move on to the next mirror instead of prompting me? No. Once your package gets released to the fink tree, the mirrors will pick it up and the file *will* be there. -- Benjamin Reed, a.k.a. Ranger Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://ranger.befunk.com/ You CAN'T clean the toilet, Neil, it'll lose all it's character! -- Vyvyan --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] xearth-1.1-11
On Sep 15, 2004, at 5:37 AM, Robert Sloan wrote: xearth would not build for me. I have Apple's X Windows on my machine. I get the complaints: Information about 2743 packages read in 2 seconds. The following package will be installed or updated: xearth /bin/rm -rf xearth-1.1-11 /bin/mkdir -p /sw/src/xearth-1.1-11 gzip -dc /sw/src/xearth-1.1.tar.gz | /sw/bin/tar -xf - xmkmf imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config make all /usr/bin/cc -g -Os -Wall -Wpointer-arith -no-cpp-precomp -I/usr/X11R6/include-D__DARWIN__ -DNO_ALLOCA -DX_LOCALE -DCSRG_BASED -I/sw/include -c -o xearth.o xearth.c In file included from xearth.c:46: xearth.h:49:21: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory That's probably it there: apparently Apple's Installer lost this file for you. Try reinstalling the X11SDK. -- Alexander Hansen Fink Documentarian [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] freeglut package
On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 08:47:32AM -0400, Jack Howarth wrote: I have had my proposed freeglut packaging in tracker for awhile now and there has been no further comments even though it is still marked as undergoing evaluation. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=414256aid=1017330group_id=17203 Is there any particular problems with this package keeping it out of unstable? Is there any reason to use freeglut? I tried compiling it myself and compiled rbogl against it and then I found some examples that work with glut are broken with freeglut. Also freeglut I compiled has compatibility version 12.0.0 in the library while glut has 3.7.0. Does your packaging fix that? Thanks Michal Suchanek --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] freeglut package
Michal, I have been told that the compatibility version is rather arbitrary and that is a non-issue. All the major Linux distros have adopted freeglut since it is trully open source and, more importantly, actively maintained. As for rbogl, I would suggest you file a bug report with the form on freeglut.sourceforge.net. In the meanwhile, I'll check the current Fedora development freeglut srpms to see if there are any patches we might merge into the fink freeglut package. Jack --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
On Sep 21, 2004, at 4:44 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: On 21 sept. 2004, at 08:51, Trevor Harmon wrote: CustomMirror: nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/ Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar If you have only one URL for the source, it doesn't make sense to use the CustomMirror field (there is no *mirror*, after all, just the original source URL). If you do, it gives the exact same behavior as if you don't. Ah, yes, that's exactly what I need: a way to specify an original source URL. That's the solution I'm looking for, since it would prevent Fink from going to its mirror, I assume. But I couldn't find anything about this in the packaging manual or the tutorial. (I assumed that custom mirrors *are* the way to specify an original source URL.) Can you please tell me how to specify an original source URL in the .info file? Thanks, Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] fink using apt-get
Hi Rob On 08.09.2004, at 00:32, Rob Braun wrote: On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 04:31:33PM -0700, Rob Braun wrote: I've come up with a patch that does this. I've been testing the patch locally, but have not tested it extensively. I'll test it with larger dependency chains later, when I get access to better connectivity. Known issues: it is not controllable by a switch (command line or otherwise). The plan is to not have this on by default, but use a switch of some sort to enable it. I'm open to suggestions on how best to toggle this. Also, it does not run apt-get update from fink index, so you'll need to do that seperately. It should update apt-get's notion of reality. I just tested this on larger sets, and it fails miserably. I have some ideas on how to fix it though, so stay tuned. Any helpful comments/code would be appreciated. ;-) Are there any updates on this enhancement of fink? I just had a very long discussion about installing a package from unstable, that needs a lot of dependencies that are available from fink 0.7.1. The procedure was quite tedious, and it would help _a lot_ if fink could decide itself which packages are available from binary and install them. It would help daily (non-techie) users of fink a lot and would spare as some discussions about when to use fink and when to use apt-get. So, am i correct that the problem at the moment is, that we can't tell apt-get to _just_ install the requested package, and not all dependencies with it? One idea i had was: Couldn't we use apt-get with the --download-only option to download the packages, and then dpkg to actually install them? This is just an idea. I haven't tested anything. Chris, you hopes to see this enhancement to fink soon, but hasn't time to do it himself. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] freeglut package
Jack Howarth wrote: Michal, I have been told that the compatibility version is rather arbitrary and that is a non-issue. All the major Linux distros have adopted The compatibility version may be a non-issue on linux, but Mac OS X enforces compatibility version at the OS level, so if it's different, freeglut and glut's libraries will not be interchangeable. This would definitely preclude it's inclusion in Fink as something that would provide/replace glut. -- Benjamin Reed, a.k.a. Ranger Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://ranger.befunk.com/ You CAN'T clean the toilet, Neil, it'll lose all it's character! -- Vyvyan --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] cannot build mozilla in fink unstable
I have errors building mozilla: Package manager version: 0.22.2 Distribution version: 0.7.1.rsync mozilla-1.7.2-1 unstable tree XCode 1.5 Mac OS X 10.3.5 fink output snippet: --- make[4]: Leaving directory `/sw/src/mozilla-1.7.2-1/mozilla/gfx/src/shared' make[4]: Entering directory `/sw/src/mozilla-1.7.2-1/mozilla/gfx/src/freetype' nsFreeType.cpp c++ -o nsFreeType.o -c -DOSTYPE=\Darwin7.5.0\ -DOSARCH=\Darwin\ -I../.. -I../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../dist/include/string -I../../../dist/include/pref -I../../../dist/include/uconv -I../../../dist/include/unicharutil -I../../../dist/include/gfx -I../../../dist/include -I/sw/src/mozilla-1.7.2-1/mozilla/dist/include/nspr -I/sw/include -I/sw/include -I/sw/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -I/sw/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -no-cpp-precomp -fno-common -fshort-wchar -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O -I/sw/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../mozilla-config.h -Wp,-MD,.deps/nsFreeType.pp nsFreeType.cpp In file included from nsFreeType.h:39, from nsFreeType.cpp:48: ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:53: error: `FTC_Image_Cache' was not declared in this scope ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:53: error: `aImageCache' was not declared in this scope ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:53: error: variable declaration is not allowed here ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:92: error: `FTC_Image_Cache' was not declared in this scope ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:92: error: parse error before `,' token ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:104: error: type specifier omitted for parameter `FTC_Image_Cache' ../../../dist/include/gfx/nsIFreeType2.h:104: error: parse error before `*' token In file included from nsFreeType.cpp:48: nsFreeType.h:107: error: `FTC_Image_Cache' was not declared in this scope nsFreeType.h:107: error: `FTC_Image_Desc' was not declared in this scope nsFreeType.h:107: error: parse error before `,' token nsFreeType.h:113: error: type specifier omitted for parameter `FTC_Image_Cache' nsFreeType.h:113: error: parse error before `*' token nsFreeType.h:145: error: `FTC_Image_Cache' was not declared in this scope nsFreeType.h:145: error: `aImageCache' was not declared in this scope nsFreeType.h:145: error: invalid data member initialization nsFreeType.h:145: error: (use `=' to initialize static data members) nsFreeType.h:145: error: `GetImageCache' declared as a `virtual' field nsFreeType.h:145: error: `FTC_Image_Cache' was not declared in this scope nsFreeType.h:145: error: parse error before `,' token nsFreeType.h:145: error: type specifier omitted for parameter `FTC_Image_Cache' nsFreeType.h:145: error: parse error before `*' token nsFreeType.h:216: error: 'FTC_Image_Cache' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. nsFreeType.cpp:101: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Done_Face' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:101: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:102: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Done_FreeType' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:102: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:103: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Done_Glyph' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:103: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:104: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Get_Char_Index' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:104: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:105: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Get_Glyph' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:105: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:106: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Get_Sfnt_Table' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:106: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:107: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Glyph_Get_CBox' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:107: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:108: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Init_FreeType' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:108: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:109: warning: invalid access to non-static data member ` nsFreeType2::nsFT_Load_Glyph' of NULL object nsFreeType.cpp:109: warning: (perhaps the `offsetof' macro was used incorrectly) nsFreeType.cpp:110: warning: invalid access to non-static data
[Fink-devel] Differences between system-java and system-java-dev
Hi, I'm packaging an application that requires Java's jar utility at build time (but not runtime). So, I'd like to specify whatever BuildDepends flag that maps to the jar utility. This is where I'm stuck, because there are packages called system-java14 and system-java14-dev (as well the 13 and 15 counterparts), but there is no explanation of the differences between them (at least, no explanation I could in the Fink docs or by searching Google). FinkCommander shows no package descriptions for them. Anybody know where I can find details on exactly what these packages provide? Thanks, Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
Trevor Harmon wrote: On Sep 21, 2004, at 4:44 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: On 21 sept. 2004, at 08:51, Trevor Harmon wrote: CustomMirror: nam-US: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/ Source: mirror:custom:%n-%v.jar If you have only one URL for the source, it doesn't make sense to use the CustomMirror field (there is no *mirror*, after all, just the original source URL). If you do, it gives the exact same behavior as if you don't. Ah, yes, that's exactly what I need: a way to specify an original source URL. That's the solution I'm looking for, since it would prevent Fink from going to its mirror, I assume. But I couldn't find anything about this in the packaging manual or the tutorial. (I assumed that custom mirrors *are* the way to specify an original source URL.) Can you please tell me how to specify an original source URL in the .info file? Thanks, As others have explained, what fink does for downloading depends on two things: On what is written in the *.info file and on what is written in the user's own /sw/etc/fink.conf file. The latter determines if the URL given in the *.info file is used first or last. The normal way for your *.info file would be to have just a Source line and no CustomMirror: Source: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/%n-%v.jar -- Martin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Custom mirror not selected by default
On Sep 21, 2004, at 11:15 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: The normal way for your *.info file would be to have just a Source line and no CustomMirror: Source: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/ajdt/%n-%v.jar Ah... From reading the packaging manual, I got the impression that the mirror:mirror-name:relative-path syntax was required. I didn't realize it was optional until I re-read it. Anyway, as long I know that the source file will eventually land in the master mirror (after the package gets accepted, of course), then I'm okay with the way it all works. Thanks, everyone, for clearing all this up for me. Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Differences between system-java and system-java-dev
Trevor Harmon wrote: Hi, I'm packaging an application that requires Java's jar utility at build time (but not runtime). So, I'd like to specify whatever BuildDepends flag that maps to the jar utility. This is where I'm stuck, because there are packages called system-java14 and system-java14-dev (as well the 13 and 15 counterparts), but there is no explanation of the differences between them (at least, no explanation I could in the Fink docs or by searching Google). FinkCommander shows no package descriptions for them. Anybody know where I can find details on exactly what these packages provide? Thanks, It should be safe to BuildDepend on system-java14. Currently, the way it figures out whether you have the dev packages installed is by checking for the existence of JNI headers. The Apple (non-dev) java package includes the jar utility, so it should be safe to assume if system-javaXX is there, jar is there. -- Benjamin Reed, a.k.a. Ranger Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://ranger.befunk.com/ I've found that people who are great at something are not so much convinced of their own greatness as mystified at why everyone else seems so incompetent. -- Paul Graham --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Differences between system-java and system-java-dev
On Sep 21, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Trevor Harmon wrote: I'm packaging an application that requires Java's jar utility at build time (but not runtime). So, I'd like to specify whatever BuildDepends flag that maps to the jar utility. This is where I'm stuck, because there are packages called system-java14 and system-java14-dev (as well the 13 and 15 counterparts), but there is no explanation of the differences between them (at least, no explanation I could in the Fink docs or by searching Google). FinkCommander shows no package descriptions for them. Anybody know where I can find details on exactly what these packages provide? Thanks, It should be safe to BuildDepend on system-java14. Currently, the way it figures out whether you have the dev packages installed is by checking for the existence of JNI headers. The Apple (non-dev) java package includes the jar utility, so it should be safe to assume if system-javaXX is there, jar is there. Okay, that's what I expected; I just wanted to make sure. For future reference, how were you able to confirm this? I knew that they were virtual packages, but surely there must still be some way of knowing exactly what they provide, whether it is just a collection of other packages or whatever. Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Differences between system-java and system-java-dev
Trevor Harmon wrote: On Sep 21, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Trevor Harmon wrote: I'm packaging an application that requires Java's jar utility at build time (but not runtime). So, I'd like to specify whatever BuildDepends flag that maps to the jar utility. This is where I'm stuck, because there are packages called system-java14 and system-java14-dev (as well the 13 and 15 counterparts), but there is no explanation of the differences between them (at least, no explanation I could in the Fink docs or by searching Google). FinkCommander shows no package descriptions for them. Anybody know where I can find details on exactly what these packages provide? Thanks, It should be safe to BuildDepend on system-java14. Currently, the way it figures out whether you have the dev packages installed is by checking for the existence of JNI headers. The Apple (non-dev) java package includes the jar utility, so it should be safe to assume if system-javaXX is there, jar is there. Okay, that's what I expected; I just wanted to make sure. For future reference, how were you able to confirm this? I knew that they were virtual packages, but surely there must still be some way of knowing exactly what they provide, whether it is just a collection of other packages or whatever. I know because I wrote the tests. ;) You can dig into it by looking at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackages.pm if you grok perl, otherwise, there's no non-programmer description of what goes into the tests. It's not a bad idea to have some though, I'll look into documenting it in the pod and see if there's a way we can get that into the real documentation. -- Benjamin Reed, a.k.a. Ranger Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://ranger.befunk.com/ I've found that people who are great at something are not so much convinced of their own greatness as mystified at why everyone else seems so incompetent. -- Paul Graham --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Differences between system-java and system-java-dev
On Sep 21, 2004, at 1:30 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: Okay, that's what I expected; I just wanted to make sure. For future reference, how were you able to confirm this? I knew that they were virtual packages, but surely there must still be some way of knowing exactly what they provide, whether it is just a collection of other packages or whatever. I know because I wrote the tests. ;) You can dig into it by looking at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackages.pm if you grok perl I looked at the code and I believe I found some problems. You specify a system-java15 package even though no Java 1.5 is yet available for Mac in any from (to my knowledge). By itself, this is not a problem, because I assume you were just trying to make VirtPackage.pm forward-compatible and future-proof. However, I doubt this will work as expected now that Sun has reversioned 1.5 as 5.0. In fact, it could cause serious problems: I noticed that your Perl code compares versions by gobbling up periods and then doing a numeric comparison. In this case, your code would think that Java 1.4.2 is a more recent version than 5.0 (because 142 50). Also, you said that the -dev packages are included if the JNI headers exist. On looking at the code, however, this doesn't seem to be the case. On line 196 of VirtPackage.pm, it appears that you only check for the existence of the Commands directory (not 100% sure, though; I'm not a Perl guy). The Commands directory contains commands like appletviewer, javac, and jar, which means if my package depends on jar, I would, in fact, need to specify the -dev package. I think this is why in your other packages, such as xalan-j, you depend on -dev, even though it doesn't need JNI headers. Trevor --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
[Fink-devel] yacas and linking weirdness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm working on writing an .info file for yacas. At this point, it compiles, but won't run because of linker oddness. Somehow this happens: w-102112:~$ otool -L /sw/bin/yacas /sw/bin/yacas: /sw/lib/libgmpnumbers.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /sw/src/root-yacas-1.0.56-1/sw/lib/libyacas.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /sw/lib/libyacasplatform.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 71.1.1) /sw/lib/libgmp.3.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.3.0) As you can see, it's linked to a library in /sw/src, and shouldn't be. How do I make that go away? I'm having trouble getting my head around how it even happened in the first place. thanks, crh -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBUJpQHttEfMmUResRAgOwAJ9VMD36LVrpc13/fwQb6L8q0fsXegCfYjQh zFlLkgSyRHT81ZtSt8l8MbM= =Dvk0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Differences between system-java and system-java-dev
Trevor Harmon wrote: I looked at the code and I believe I found some problems. You specify a system-java15 package even though no Java 1.5 is yet available for Mac in any from (to my knowledge). By itself, this is not a problem, because I assume you were just trying to make VirtPackage.pm forward-compatible and future-proof. However, I doubt this will work as expected now that Sun has reversioned 1.5 as 5.0. In fact, it could cause serious problems: I noticed that your Perl code compares versions by gobbling up periods and then doing a numeric comparison. In this case, your code would think that Java 1.4.2 is a more recent version than 5.0 (because 142 50). Actually it only uses the first 2 digits, so it would be 14 50. If it becomes 5.0 we'll end up with a system-java50. Also, you said that the -dev packages are included if the JNI headers exist. On looking at the code, however, this doesn't seem to be the case. On line 196 of VirtPackage.pm, it appears that you only check for the existence of the Commands directory (not 100% sure, though; I'm not a Perl guy). The Commands directory contains commands like appletviewer, javac, and jar, which means if my package depends on jar, I would, in fact, need to specify the -dev package. I think this is why in your other packages, such as xalan-j, you depend on -dev, even though it doesn't need JNI headers. I was incorrect about the jni headers, but you're looking at the wrong bit for system-javaXX. system-javaXX looks for the Commands directory, system-javaXX-dev looks for the Headers directory. Regardless, the original point (you don't need to depend on the -dev if you just want the jar command) still stands. I am adding POD to the VirtPackages.pm file so a future version will at least be documented. =) -- Benjamin Reed, a.k.a. Ranger Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://ranger.befunk.com/ Yeah, rpm is for people who can't keep track of hundreds of scraps of paper. -- John Beimler --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] DocFiles directory tree
On Sep 21, 2004, at 4:13 AM, Trevor Harmon wrote: The DocFiles field in a .info file can take any number of files and wildcards. However, the doc files that I would like to include in my package consist of several hundred files several directories deep. As a workaround, include in your InstallScript 'cp -r docsdir %i/share/doc/%n', and forget about using DocFiles for that directory. Dave PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Fwd: [Fink-devel] Fwd: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 error continuing...
Hi all and Martin, The below error is continuing after having reinstalled X11 SDK, rm -r /sw, and reinstalled fink 0.7.1. This is irritating cuz I'm trying to install ettercap -G (GTK), and other packages conisidered unstable. I've got xcode 1.5 installed running 10.3.5. please help... Thanks, Jonas Begin forwarded message: From: Jonas Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: September 15, 2004 11:37:20 PM EDT To: Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 Martin, Thanks. I'll reinstall the SDK and if any problems I'll repost to fink-devel. Thanks again, Jonas On Sep 15, 2004, at 6:15 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Jonas Roel wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Jonas Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: September 13, 2004 1:20:37 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 Hi all, I having trouble compiling from CVS and it may be an XCode 1.5 issue To me this looks more like the problem with /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/freetype/internal/ftmemory.h which we have seen several times (there was a thread on the fink-users list on September 3, for example). This file seems to be sometimes forgotten by the Apple installer. Look from what time it dates. If it is older than Sept 15 2003, you need to reinstall teh X11SDK.pkg. -- the readout follows: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DPANGO_ENABLE_ENGINE -DSYSCONFDIR=\/sw/etc\ -DLIBDIR=\/sw/lib\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../.. -no-cpp-precomp -O3 -funroll-loops -fstrict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -MT otlbuffer.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/otlbuffer.Tpo -c otlbuffer.c -fno-common -DPIC -o .libs/otlbuffer.o otlbuffer.c: In function `otl_buffer_ensure': otlbuffer.c:32: warning: implicit declaration of function `FT_REALLOC_ARRAY' -- Martin
Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 error continuing...
You might try flushing out /usr/X11R6 and reinstalling X11User and X11SDK. On Sep 21, 2004, at 7:32 PM, Jonas Roel wrote: Hi all and Martin, The below error is continuing after having reinstalled X11 SDK, rm -r /sw, and reinstalled fink 0.7.1. This is irritating cuz I'm trying to install ettercap -G (GTK), and other packages conisidered unstable. I've got xcode 1.5 installed running 10.3.5. please help... Thanks, Jonas Begin forwarded message: From: Jonas Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 15, 2004 11:37:20 PM EDT To: Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 Martin, Thanks. I'll reinstall the SDK and if any problems I'll repost to fink-devel. Thanks again, Jonas On Sep 15, 2004, at 6:15 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Jonas Roel wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Jonas Roel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 13, 2004 1:20:37 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 Hi all, I having trouble compiling from CVS and it may be an XCode 1.5 issue To me this looks more like the problem with /usr/X11R6/include/freetype2/freetype/internal/ftmemory.h which we have seen several times (there was a thread on the fink-users list on September 3, for example). This file seems to be sometimes forgotten by the Apple installer. Look from what time it dates. If it is older than Sept 15 2003, you need to reinstall teh X11SDK.pkg. -- the readout follows: pango1-xft2-1.4.0-27 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DPANGO_ENABLE_ENGINE -DSYSCONFDIR=\/sw/etc\ -DLIBDIR=\/sw/lib\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../.. -no-cpp-precomp -O3 -funroll-loops -fstrict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -MT otlbuffer.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/otlbuffer.Tpo -c otlbuffer.c -fno-common -DPIC -o .libs/otlbuffer.o otlbuffer.c: In function `otl_buffer_ensure': otlbuffer.c:32: warning: implicit declaration of function `FT_REALLOC_ARRAY' -- Martin -- Alexander K. Hansen Fink Documentarian Day Job: Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: YOU BE THE JUDGE. Be one of 170 Project Admins to receive an Apple iPod Mini FREE for your judgement on who ports your project to Linux PPC the best. Sponsored by IBM. Deadline: Sept. 24. Go here: http://sf.net/ppc_contest.php ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
