Re: remedial riding, part 2...

1999-07-03 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 7/3/99 8:27:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 Brigid, regarding arena work.  I would suggest you are as bored as the
 horses with the arena.  Always have something you are working on, leg
 yields. turn on the fore or haunches, do the latter on a square, etc.  It
 keeps the horse interested and yourself working toward something. 

Amen.

I need help, and have found a trainer I am really pleased with. 
Unfortunately, my stable owner does not allow outside persons to train. I am 
having many other problems with this stable, and have decided to move. With a 
trainer's help I may actually know what I'm doing : )

Brigid



Re: No FJORD chat this Sun. / UTAH dreaming !

1999-07-03 Thread Pedfjords
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  Hi List ! Just returning from a vacation to our place in UTAH, 
and very hard to be back to the heat, smog, traffic, YUK . Hoping to relocate 
very soon. Except for Louanna Day, is their any other Fjord folks in that 
beautiful state?  If so, E-Mail me please...

Our bosses at PetsandVets anounced that due to the July 4th Holiday, we 
would NOT be having any chats on Sun.  Hope to see you all next week though 
for the FIRST, the ORIGINAL, much COPIED FJORD CHAT. VBG



 A HREF=http://www.petsandvets.com/;PETS AND VETS/A  
A HREF=http://volano1.suresite.com/petsvets/vcclient/horsechat.html;HORSE 
CHAT ROOM/A Im off to feel sorry for myself about being back to work, 
and seeing the air I breathe.  So sorry for the pity party. 

Oh yea.and fishing in lakes so clear, you can see the trout chase your 
bait all the way in.   :( Oh YEA, and turn around and 
trip over deer and elk munching grass everywhere. Oh yea..
 Lisa Pedersen



Re: remedial riding, part 2...

1999-07-03 Thread Epona1971
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  If all your horses were 
 reacting right after shoeing by not going forward, I think it was the right 
 thing to do and stop riding.  If you know your horse well and he's usually 
 honest and going, I would trust your hunch on the shoeing.
 
 Elaine Olsen

Thanks Elaine!

This is what I suspected. Their hooves are fine for carrying their own 
weight, but perhaps my additional weight caused discomfort. If so, I'm glad 
that (typically Fjord) they stopped rather than trying to throw me : )

Brigid

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 br/pre/td/tr



[Fwd: 'working' Fjords and equipment]

1999-07-03 Thread Martie John Bolinski
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Hi,  Martie and Kilar in muggy MD again.

Some time back, I posted about wanting to use Kilar for a little
farm work.  Not knowing what type of equipment he could handle by
himself (he is still an only Fjord), I asked about forecarts and types
of equipment I could expect him to handle.
Thanks again to all of you for the suggestions.
We did not act on any of our ideas yet, waiting to go to the Horse
Progress Days in Kinzer PA this weekend to actually see first-hand some
horses (various size hitches, various size horses, mucho various
equipment and harnessing and types of work).
Now I have even more trouble deciding if I can work him.
I had hoped to get a forecart that did not weigh too much and maybe a
manure spreader (which we need anyway) that could be pulled either by
the horse (with the forecart) or by our tractor.  The forecarts we saw
today came in 2 categories - 1) light weight, easy maneuverability but
NO BRAKES and 2) heavy weight, not real maneuverable but good brakes.
There does not seem to be a difference in Horse or Pony weight
forecarts.  Just BIG (with brakes) or SMALL (no brakes).
As our pastures have some slight hillyness, I am assuming I NEED
brakes?  Yes?  The hills are not really steep, but fairly long.  We
would be pulling either a 25 BU or 35 BU spreader (probably full for the
tractor and not so full for the horse).
Of course, all the sales reps insist that a Fjord can singlehorsedly
pull both the forecart (heavy or light) AND all manner of farm
machinery.  But none of these fine folks have small draft horses or have
ever (admittingly) owned/driven these slightly smaller drafties.  The
seller of the small brakeless carts insist that the breeching is the
only brake I need.  The seller of the large cart insists that the weight
of the heavy (15 car tires on a heavy metal frame) cart plus the 35 BU
spready should be no problem for a 'strong little horse' to pull.  Like
a Halflinger.  Everyone knows the Halflingers, no-one seemed to know the
Fjords until we mentioned the racing stripe (Oh yeah, the little striped
cream colors horses).

Anyone with any advice on brakes vs no brakes; large vs small
forecarts; 25 BU vs 35 BU spreaders, or ANY advice on what type of
equipment to purchase for a single horse, please get back to me??

Also, if you are on line - THANKS many times over to the poor
Fjord owners that I hounded during the day with my questions.  I thought
I had a card with your  names on, but I can't find it.  My apologies for
that, but thanks again for all your help in giving me the questions to
ask and some thoughts about the philosophy of working horses.
The first thing we saw when we arrived at the Progress Days was a
pair of beautiful TALL Fjords raking hay.  This is especially great for
me, as Kilar was used for raking hay and training the younger horses to
pull/rake before I bought him.  Explains his need to follow the trail of
grass clippings with the cart every time John mows the pasture where we
drive.

thanks again,
Martie, John and Kilar - still hoping for rain.



Re: remedial riding, part 2...

1999-07-03 Thread Jean Gayle
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Brigid, regarding arena work.  I would suggest you are as bored as the
horses with the arena.  Always have something you are working on, leg
yields. turn on the fore or haunches, do the latter on a square, etc.  It
keeps the horse interested and yourself working toward something.


Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 4:34 PM
Subject: remedial riding, part 2...


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Happy Fjording to All!

Anvil's Tommes  Rafael are doing very well. They just had new shoes and
their sheaths cleaned (yuck!) yesterday. I have ridden both bareback, with
a
loose ring snaffle. We have walked around the arena, done a few
circles/figure-8's, fast/slow pace, and of course whoas : )

Today they both decided to walk halfway around, then stop and refuse to
move.
I decided it was best to dismount and end for the day, rather than get
upset
and confuse all three of us. Could their feet be sore from the new shoes,
or
are they just pulling a fast one on me? In either case, what should I do?

Brigid in CA




Re: Re[2]: fjordhorse-digest V99 #95

1999-07-03 Thread Jean Gayle
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Steve, it was Gayle Ware in Eugene who asked the question re shirts.  But I
am glad you wrote as I did not know we were to send checks before the shirts
arrived.  Problem, I have talked to several people who do not recall how
many they ordered or the cost.  I believe I ordered two extra large and one
large?  Is that correct?
Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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From: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 7:44 AM
Subject: Re[2]: fjordhorse-digest V99 #95


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Gayle--

Thursday, July 01, 1999, you wrote:

 Would you please post the price for the t-shirts?

  The price is $11.95, for sizes S thru XL. Size XXL is $13.34, XXXL
  is $14.45 and L is $15.95. Shipping and handling will be $5.00
  for 1 to 3 shirts, and $7.00 for 4 to 6 shirts.

  Checks can be made to Steve McIlree, and sent to:
2852 Martin Ave.
Omaha NE, 68112-2855

  So far only seven of the people who indicated they wanted shirts
  have sent checks. I really would like to go to the printer next week
  so we can have shirts in time for Blue Earth. Please folks, this is
  a big chunk of change I'm going to have to front. If you want
  shirts, please send your checks, and if you have changed your mind,
  please let me know so I don't over-order.

--
Steve McIlree  Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha,
Nebraska, USA
  People may talk of first love--but give me the flush, and triumph, and
  glorious sweat of a first ride. --George Borrow(1803-1881)





Re: halters

1999-07-03 Thread Jean Gayle
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Lynda, no halters after three days of having a carrot or a half an apple or
a handful of grain in their stall feeders when they come in, one at a time
so you can close doors behind them.  Jean


Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 7:53 AM
Subject: halters






Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Denise Delgado
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Dear Brigid,  Where is Calif. do you live?  I  live up in the foothills eat
of Stockton and Sacto.  Do you want to take the Fjords out someday?  Let me
know and maybe, if it is'nt too far, we can do a ride together.  Denise in
cooler and breezy, Mokelumne Hill.
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Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: New Fjord Fan


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 In a message dated 7/3/99 9:10:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I think the one thing Fjords dislike most is ARENA work, boring,
repetitive
  going around in circles.  

 Me, too! I'm sure this is why my Fjords are deciding to stop walking
around
 the arena. I need to convince horsey friends to help me ride on the trail.
 I'll feel more confortable with someone to back me up.

 Brigid in CA




Re: remedial riding, part 2...

1999-07-03 Thread OLSENELAIN
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Bridged,

I have had horses get sore after shoeing when they were either cut too short, 
or too much sole was removed. Sometimes, they are not lame, but foot sore and 
sore with hoof testers. They might not be sore on the nails, but sore right 
under the shoe. I find that this breed does not have a lot of sole and it is 
important that farriers do not carve it away.  If all your horses were 
reacting right after shoeing by not going forward, I think it was the right 
thing to do and stop riding.  If you know your horse well and he's usually 
honest and going, I would trust your hunch on the shoeing.

Elaine Olsen



Re: remedial riding, part 2...

1999-07-03 Thread Jenn Hammon
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Hi. Next time take each horse in the ring by it's self. It might help
them listen to you better.

Welcome. Kay.


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 In a message dated 7/2/99 3:24:23 PM Pacific
 Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  First of all never just stop when A horse stops.
 And if thay are sore
  from the shoe get a new blacksmith. 
 
 Hi Kay-
 
 I realize I reinforced their wrong behavior, that
 is, stopping when they feel 
 like it. But I chose it over getting
 frustrated/upset and confusing all 3 of 
 us. I figured it was best to consult the list and
 others more knowledgeable 
 before moving on.
 
 They show no lameness at all from the shoes. It was
 just a thought -- I 
 always like to rule out physical problems before
 assuming it's behavioral.
 
 Brigid
 

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Re: Halters

1999-07-03 Thread Jenn Hammon
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Hi. just make sure that the halters aren't tite.You don't want big old
sores on their face do you? 
Thanks Kay.


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 In a message dated 7/3/99 7:36:14 AM Pacific
 Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:
 
  Has anyone tried rope halters? 
 
 Hi Lynda-
 
 I am enjoying the posts on halters. I started with
 the halters which came 
 with my two geldings. They were flat nylon. I had
 problems keeping the 
 horses heads out of the grass, especially when
 leading both at once! I heard 
 that thin rope halters offered more control, and
 found this to be true. When 
 my horses' heads hit the ground, you need a crane to
 get them back up. The 
 rope halters give me an extra edge in keeping the
 heads up while leading.
 
 I agree that leaving halters on can be dangerous. I
 let my horses run loose 
 in the arena (halters on)  before we work, but I
 am there watching. When 
 unsupervised, halters are off (and removed from the
 area, as they will chew 
 them up : )
 
 Brigid in CA
 

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Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Jenn Hammon
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Hi. Just NEVER  stop for the day or time because the horse has had
enough. That makes the horse think he is the boss not you when you ar
with him. 

Thanks Kay.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 In a message dated 7/3/99 9:10:12 AM Pacific
 Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I think the one thing Fjords dislike most is
 ARENA work, boring, repetitive
  going around in circles.  
 
 Me, too! I'm sure this is why my Fjords are deciding
 to stop walking around 
 the arena. I need to convince horsey friends to help
 me ride on the trail. 
 I'll feel more confortable with someone to back me
 up.
 
 Brigid in CA
 

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Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Carolyn Dumong
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Jean Ernest wrote:
 
 This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi Carolyln, welcome to the list!
 
 I do mostly trail riding and having four fjords for the one of me, am
 afraid that I don't ride my two oldsters much (22 and 24)  But they are
 perfectly happy to lounge about, eat and socialize with the others.
 
 I would say Fjords are happiest when they are EATING!  but of course we
 can't let them do that as much as they would like..They are happy just to
 schmooze with you, get petted and groomed.  I would say your pleasure
 riding activiities would suit them just fine.
 
 I think the one thing Fjords dislike most is ARENA work, boring, repetitive
 going around in circles.  Get them out on the trail, do intersting things
 with them like cavaletti if you have to do much arena riding, etc.  Amuse
 them with Clicker training, retrieving things (see Steve Mcilree's page on
 the Fjord Mailing List Web page:
 http://members.home.net/smcilree/Steve.htm
 
 While you may be only touching the tip ot the iceberg with the trail
 riding (as I am sure I'm doing..not developing the full potential of my
 fjords, etc.) I wouldn't feel too guilty If that's all you do with your
 Fjord.  Enjoy them, that's the main thing.
 
 Just my $.02 worth
 
 Jean in HOT Fairbanks, Alaska, upper 80's today, but They're delivering hay
 today!
 
  I do strictly pleasure riding and camping with horses and
 friends from the barn where I board my 12 year old Palomino, Daisy (my
 best friend and love of my life!)  From the information I have gathered,
 the Fjord is happiest when working and if pleasure riding is the only
 interest, you are only touching the tip of the iceberg.
 
 Jean Ernest
 Fairbanks, Alaska
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Jean!  Thanks for your feedback, especially the comment about not
feeling guilty if all I wanted to do is trail ride, camp with my Fjord!
Yes, I agree, arena riding is totally BORING!!!  I probably haven't
ridden in the arena for 2 years!  I would much rather be out discovering
a new trail or just grazing along the way!!!  Since we had a long dry
spell down here and our pasture was virtually dried up, I loved taking
my Daisy out to just let her eat anything GREEN in sight!  Of course,
during the last month, we have had 13 inches of rain, so goes the old
adage..Be careful what you pray for!!! Mud City!  I will continue to
research...I must have one of these little guys for sure!  Is there a
major show which you all attend?  Looking forward to corresponding with
you...Carolyn.



Re: Halters

1999-07-03 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 7/3/99 7:36:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Has anyone tried rope halters? 

Hi Lynda-

I am enjoying the posts on halters. I started with the halters which came 
with my two geldings. They were flat nylon. I had problems keeping the 
horses heads out of the grass, especially when leading both at once! I heard 
that thin rope halters offered more control, and found this to be true. When 
my horses' heads hit the ground, you need a crane to get them back up. The 
rope halters give me an extra edge in keeping the heads up while leading.

I agree that leaving halters on can be dangerous. I let my horses run loose 
in the arena (halters on)  before we work, but I am there watching. When 
unsupervised, halters are off (and removed from the area, as they will chew 
them up : )

Brigid in CA



Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Epona1971
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 7/3/99 9:10:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think the one thing Fjords dislike most is ARENA work, boring, repetitive
 going around in circles.  

Me, too! I'm sure this is why my Fjords are deciding to stop walking around 
the arena. I need to convince horsey friends to help me ride on the trail. 
I'll feel more confortable with someone to back me up.

Brigid in CA



new member web page

1999-07-03 Thread fjords
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This message is from : Lauren Sellars [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hello  I would like to introduce myself and my family.  My partner Walter
and I run an organic farm with fruit trees  a huge garden. We use our
fjords for  tilling the soil, hauling rocks  logs and in the buggy.  Most
of all;  we all love riding. We have  a total of  17 fjords including our
newest filly Snowy's  Chardonnay born July 1st . We have yet to see if she
is a grey or golden.
 We are just putting together a Web page with a few more changes and  fun
pictures to come. It is http://www.fjordhorse.net  Take a look  and let us
know what you think.  We  totally enjoy the idea of this chat line.
Have a great day all of you.



Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Heyvaert
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Hi from Susan in Minnesota!  Had to comment on your inquiries about the Fjord 
and riding for pleasure.  We have a Fjord (along with an Arab and 2 Quarter 
horses).  I can't comment on the hot humid weather for the long term but for 
the short term, Major seems to do just fine in the hot weather even when 
going on a hour to hour and a half drive.  I try to throw a bucket of water 
on him when we get back and blade him off or, if we're near a lake (there are 
lots here in Minnesota!), we go swimming!  He actually seems to handle the 
hot weather better than my Quarter horse who sweats like crazy when it's hot  
-- I always attribute it to her heavy muscle mass -- or maybe it's just in 
the genes.

I have just started to trail ride with my Fjord because I have other horses I 
need to ride too.  He enjoys the rides but I think driving is his true love.  
Because we live in suburbia with our horses, I don't like to drive around 
here much.  That means trailering him to a park or dirt roads just out of 
town.  To exercise him in between drives, I ride him around and do a fair 
amount of arena work -- longeing, ground work, bending, responding to leg 
pressure, etc.  He enjoys any attention he can get.  He sticks his hoof out 
between the fence rails whenever anyone walks by just begging for attention.  
He is calm on the trail but tends to walk a little too slow for my liking.  I 
usually am riding with a couple friends on Tennessee Walkers and Quarter 
Horses so he has a hard time keeping up without trotting.  Other than that, 
he enjoys about anything I do with him.  I think most Fjords are that way -- 
they just want attention !!

I know I've rambled on but I hope this gives you an idea what one person does 
with her Fjord!  good luck!  Susan



Re: New shoes

1999-07-03 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 7/3/99 4:17:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Brigid, for your freshly shod horses, if you suspect you have a problem 
with
 a new shoeing, check out each foot.  

Thanks Dave!

I will do this check today. I am very satisfied with my farrier and do not 
suspect problems, but I always like to rule out each possibility.

Brigid



Re: remedial riding, part 2...

1999-07-03 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 7/2/99 3:24:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 First of all never just stop when A horse stops. And if thay are sore
 from the shoe get a new blacksmith. 

Hi Kay-

I realize I reinforced their wrong behavior, that is, stopping when they feel 
like it. But I chose it over getting frustrated/upset and confusing all 3 of 
us. I figured it was best to consult the list and others more knowledgeable 
before moving on.

They show no lameness at all from the shoes. It was just a thought -- I 
always like to rule out physical problems before assuming it's behavioral.

Brigid



New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Everyone!  Just subscribed to the mailing list a few days ago and
would appreciate your input!  I was first introduced to this beautiful
breed at Equitana in June.  I never knew they existed, and I fell in
love!  I have several questions, which I am sure you can answer...I
picked up some general info from the booth, other than that, I am
totally green!  I have only been riding for 4 years (and am not a
youngster!).  I do strictly pleasure riding and camping with horses and
friends from the barn where I board my 12 year old Palomino, Daisy (my
best friend and love of my life!)  From the information I have gathered,
the Fjord is happiest when working and if pleasure riding is the only
interest, you are only touching the tip of the iceberg.  I can
honestly say I would probably never do any driving or pulling logs,
although I am considering dressage seriously in the near future. Since I
live in southern Florida, which is hot and humid most of the year,I
would like to know if they fare well in this type of climate?  It seems
like most of the breeders are in northern states.  Do any of you ride
strictly for pleasure. i.e. trail riding?  Although this is all I have
thought about since returning from Equitana, I certainly would not want
to do injustice to a magnificent animal that might require more than my
capabilities/riding interests.  Any information you could provide me
regarding your Fjords would be very much appreciated!



Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Carolyln, welcome to the list!

I do mostly trail riding and having four fjords for the one of me, am
afraid that I don't ride my two oldsters much (22 and 24)  But they are
perfectly happy to lounge about, eat and socialize with the others.  

I would say Fjords are happiest when they are EATING!  but of course we
can't let them do that as much as they would like..They are happy just to
schmooze with you, get petted and groomed.  I would say your pleasure
riding activiities would suit them just fine.  

I think the one thing Fjords dislike most is ARENA work, boring, repetitive
going around in circles.  Get them out on the trail, do intersting things
with them like cavaletti if you have to do much arena riding, etc.  Amuse
them with Clicker training, retrieving things (see Steve Mcilree's page on
the Fjord Mailing List Web page:
http://members.home.net/smcilree/Steve.htm 

While you may be only touching the tip ot the iceberg with the trail
riding (as I am sure I'm doing..not developing the full potential of my
fjords, etc.) I wouldn't feel too guilty If that's all you do with your
Fjord.  Enjoy them, that's the main thing. 

Just my $.02 worth

Jean in HOT Fairbanks, Alaska, upper 80's today, but They're delivering hay
today!  

 I do strictly pleasure riding and camping with horses and
friends from the barn where I board my 12 year old Palomino, Daisy (my
best friend and love of my life!)  From the information I have gathered,
the Fjord is happiest when working and if pleasure riding is the only
interest, you are only touching the tip of the iceberg. 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #97

1999-07-03 Thread GailDorine
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A woman I know, who is a good person but not knowledgeable about horses, put 
hers out in halters and one of them hung himself.   It's a real, real scarey 
thing to do.



Re: New shoes

1999-07-03 Thread Jenn Hammon
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Hi this is Kay. 
It could also be that if they have pads that they have a sore under the
pad. My friends horse had one of those. The farrier opened it up and
drande it out and he is doing alot better.

Thanks Kay.


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 Brigid, for your freshly shod horses, if you suspect
 you have a problem with
 a new shoeing, check out each foot.  Lift the
 horse's foot and with a light
 hammer, lightly tap each of the nail heads.  You can
 also lightly tap each
 clench.  If the farrier has placed a nail in an area
 that is sensitive, the
 horse will flinch when you hit the right one.
 
 If the horse has pads, and a little time has gone
 by, it is possible that
 sand or tiny gravel can get inside a pad and cause a
 sensitive spot on a
 sole particularly if the sole might be pared a
 little too much.
 
 If there is no pad, a stone bruise is always
 possible, and again, is more
 likely if the sole is thin.
 
 Other than that, notice heat anywhere around the
 hoof.  If you spot an area
 and are not sure, pour water or alcohol on the hoof,
 and see where it dries
 quickest.
 
 I hope the problem has gone away by itself already!
 
 

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Re: Halters

1999-07-03 Thread Jenn Hammon
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Well you might have the halters to tite. My horse did that so I loosend
the halter some and he was fine. Or you could just take the halter off
when they are out in the pasture.

Welcome Kay.


--- Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This message is from: Karen McCarthy
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 We seem to be having problems with halters causing
 sores on a few of our 
 Fjords...We only use halters for leading and we do
 leave them on when the 
 horses are out to pasture for their allotted 1-5
 hours
 per day.  Lynda
Bailey's Fjord Horse Farm
 
 Gee,Lynda,
 
 The first thing that comes to my mind, and probably
 most of us here at the 
 List is: Why are you leaving the halters on while
 they are out at pasture? 
 Unless you are using funky,old leather halters that
 can easily break should 
 a horse get hung up, forget using them at turnout!
 I live in arid N. Nevada, and my herd is on
 irrigated pasture at least half 
 a day. The few bugs we do have here really seem to
 drive them nuts.They itch 
 their cheeks and jaws and just about every other
 kind of anatomical 
 protrubrance on the fences and trees. A halter would
 really cause some bad 
 rubs and also pull out a few fenceposts, not to
 mention cause injury to the 
 horses.
 For itchy spots caused by Buffalo gnats and
 mosqoitos,and just plain old 
 rubbing I have been applying a product by Gold
 Nugget called GnatAway, (to 
 repel them) and following it up with another product
 they make called Equine 
 Theraputic Lotion,( ETL.) I used this stuff on a
 filly,that overnight looked 
 like she had rubbed half of the hair on her face. In
 3 weeks she was on the 
 road showing, most of her hair growing in nicely.
 
 Take care, Karen
 
 
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New shoes

1999-07-03 Thread Dave McWethy
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Brigid, for your freshly shod horses, if you suspect you have a problem with
a new shoeing, check out each foot.  Lift the horse's foot and with a light
hammer, lightly tap each of the nail heads.  You can also lightly tap each
clench.  If the farrier has placed a nail in an area that is sensitive, the
horse will flinch when you hit the right one.

If the horse has pads, and a little time has gone by, it is possible that
sand or tiny gravel can get inside a pad and cause a sensitive spot on a
sole particularly if the sole might be pared a little too much.

If there is no pad, a stone bruise is always possible, and again, is more
likely if the sole is thin.

Other than that, notice heat anywhere around the hoof.  If you spot an area
and are not sure, pour water or alcohol on the hoof, and see where it dries
quickest.

I hope the problem has gone away by itself already!



Re: Halters

1999-07-03 Thread Karen McCarthy

This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]


We seem to be having problems with halters causing sores on a few of our 
Fjords...We only use halters for leading and we do leave them on when the 
horses are out to pasture for their allotted 1-5 hours

per day.  Lynda

  Bailey's Fjord Horse Farm

Gee,Lynda,

The first thing that comes to my mind, and probably most of us here at the 
List is: Why are you leaving the halters on while they are out at pasture? 
Unless you are using funky,old leather halters that can easily break should 
a horse get hung up, forget using them at turnout!
I live in arid N. Nevada, and my herd is on irrigated pasture at least half 
a day. The few bugs we do have here really seem to drive them nuts.They itch 
their cheeks and jaws and just about every other kind of anatomical 
protrubrance on the fences and trees. A halter would really cause some bad 
rubs and also pull out a few fenceposts, not to mention cause injury to the 
horses.
For itchy spots caused by Buffalo gnats and mosqoitos,and just plain old 
rubbing I have been applying a product by Gold Nugget called GnatAway, (to 
repel them) and following it up with another product they make called Equine 
Theraputic Lotion,( ETL.) I used this stuff on a filly,that overnight looked 
like she had rubbed half of the hair on her face. In 3 weeks she was on the 
road showing, most of her hair growing in nicely.


Take care, Karen


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