Re: boarding blues
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/9/99 4:00:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Things eventually cooled down, maybe yours will too. However it sounds like there may already be too much friction between you now. Hi Jean- I wish it would cool down, as I hate for things to get personal. The main problem is, my horses need work and I cannot bring my trainer on the premises because the stable owner forbids it. She called the cops the last time he visited. She is crazy, and has personal vendettas against people. I just can't take it any more. Brigid
Re: boarding blues
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/9/99 5:23:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Congratulations on keeping a cool head and not allowing yourself to be intimidated. Thank you! I stand up for myself, but I hate pointless arguing and temper. I don't know where you live in California, but there are some barns I can recommend where the owners are sane and supportive. I am in San Mateo County. The place I am considering is in Daly City. Cool and foggy, but that's what the Fjords like : ) Brigid
Re: boarding blues
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/9/99 1:01:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You say the horses were untended for 15 hours, does that mean you were the last one out of the barn? If so than you must have not closed the stall securily. If that is so you are probably responsibile for damages. That's what I was afraid of. I did close the stall, which doesn't lock because the door has settled too much. Is a stable owner supposed to check the horses during the night as a regular routine? I don't know. It just seems like an awfully long time in a very hot barn. Brigid
Re: LAST CHANCE for Tee-Shirts!!!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve I will take Tee-shirt XXL please. I will put a check in the mail in the morning. Sue in not so hot and dry (tonight at least) New Mexico.
Clinic and horses for sale
This message is from: ceacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again to all of you who manage to stay connected on the list once the weather got nice. I am finally getting back to reading my e-mail after a 4 month lapse. My aplogies to folks who sent me messages that I never got. The death of a close friend was what got me off track to begin with and then there was foaling season, we had four lovely fillies, and then the exhibitions Mass. Expo and Equitana, and then breeding season and fencing and haying well I suppose its the same for all of you too. Anyway, I have perservered and have been reading all the past list entries from this and the other list I am on, which is a clicker training list. I have read a few references to clicker training on this list so I thought I would post a notice about an upcoming 5 day clinic I am hosting at my farm. Aug.9-13 Alexandra Kurland, the author of the book Clicker Training For Horses , will be conducting a hands on clinic using clicker training. The first two days will be an introduction on how clicker training works, shaping behavior, applications of this method, and skill improvement. The last three days will be under saddle and combines clicker with John Lyons one rein method of training. I have been working with Alex for awhile and have found this method to be very ,very useful with Fjords. I gave a demo at the Mass. Equine Expo. with Alex last April and we used my stallion Konggard at liberty in the arena. We showed the attention getting stuff like fetching and retrieving stuff, and playing tag, but we also demonstrated what I think is particularly useful for Fjords, which is what I refer to as therapeutic gymnastics. These are ways in which you can use clicker training to teach your horse exercises that will improve their muscle tone, flexibility, and balance. For example, I used this method to teach Konggard to raise the base of his neck which is an important part of collection and self carriage. I have been using it to teach him how to rock his weight back onto his hindlegs in the halt, and doing exercises to free up his shoulders. The best part is that you can do this kind of work almost anywhere and at anytime, despite the weather! We also did the clicker demos with Alex at Equitana only this time we did both in hand and under saddle with Konggard and we did a demo with my two Konggard daughters, Tedra and Tara, who are both yearlings. They had to walk through buildings and up a ramp onto a stage, and participate in an hour long lecture/ demo. They both work at liberty and will stay at your side while you walk, trot. halt, and back up. We use this method to halter and lead train our youngstock, to teach them to pick up there feet for trimming, and to learn to load. They are target trained and can also play fetch etc. This brings me to my other reason for posting this lengthy message. These two very pretty and well trained fillies are for sale. Tara is By Konggard and Out of my Brusvein daughter, Elda. Her dam is the Ster mare Unika. Tedra is By Konngard and out of my other Brusvein daughter, Freya I. Her dam is the Model mare Cindy. For those of you who are not familiar with Konggard's pedigree he is the son of the Elite stallion Myrstein, out of the Ster mare Fjellgard. Konggard was bred by Bob von Bon,who still owns Konggard's mother, grandmother ( Armgard a Ster mare ) , and his great grandmother , the Elite mare, Sunngard. Tedra, is a full sister to Vivian Creigh's two mares , Penfrydd's Nykka, and Penfrydd's Oksana, and to Brian and Ursula Jensen's mare Penfrydd's Rayetta. Dick and Sue Giagiari have just purchased the 1999 full sister, Penfrydd's Vera. Perhaps some of the other folks who were at Equitana and saw both the youngsters and the clicker demos can add their comments. I believe that both of these fillies are going to be superb performance mares, very pretty with excellent temperament as demonstrated by their ability to handle the trip to Equitana. All my mares are used in our summer program for kids, and both of these mares are as reliable as they get. I would be happy to send out videos of both sire and dam and babies for sale. I also have Elda's 1999 filly for sale as well as another Konggard daughter out of a Norwegian imported mare, Rosita. She is the grandam of Brian Jacobsen's young stud Arve. We have had seven fillies in a row so I have no colts for sale. I am not very good at blowing my own horn, but these are exceptionally nice yearlings with really terrific breeding behind them. It would be nice for them to go to someone who is interested in breeding or performance. Sorry to be so long winded! Ceacy Henderson, Penfrydd Farm, Colrain, Ma. 01340 413-624-8969
Re: LAST CHANCE for Tee-Shirts!!!!!
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve I put my check in the mail Friday. Hope it is correct. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle -Original Message- From: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FjordHorse List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 10, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: LAST CHANCE for Tee-Shirts! This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LAST CHANCE for Tee-Shirts!!!!!
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is it!! Last chance!! The artwork went to the printer yesterday, and the order for the shirts is going Monday. If you still want to order a shirt and email me before noon CDT on Monday, I'll trust you. The price is $11.95, for sizes S thru XL. Size XXL is $13.45, XXXL is $14.45 and L is $15.95. Shipping and handling will be $5.00 for 1 to 3 shirts, and $7.00 for 4 to 6 shirts. Checks can be made to Steve McIlree, and sent to: 2852 Martin Ave. Omaha NE, 68112-2855 -- Steve McIlree Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA It's never the horse, it's always the rider. --Old Cavalry Adage
Re: grain?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those were some very good answers to Candace's question about feeding grain! Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina
Off Topic, But Hope You Don't Mind Me Sharing This One
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Re: DNA Testing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/9/99 21:00:38 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you did all 50 at once, the horse might never speak to you again! Julie g or speak only evil to me henceforth. I've heard a couple people say they do it all at once, and the instructions look like that's what they want you to do. But if I can do it just a few at a time, I can handle it and keep Skylark's good will. Pamela
Re: DNA hair pulling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/9/99 20:18:23 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I pull from several sites and do not try to pull the required 50-100 hairs from one site. None were delighted with me, but were stoic about it. Since it's finally nice and hot in Oregon, I think today I'll give Skylark a nice bath. And a very good grooming session as she dries. Then in the midst of the grooming session I'll pluck a few here, a few there and she'll just think it's part of her grooming. Thank you all for your responses and help. I never had to do this with my arabs, qhs and tbs. So I was at a complete loss when I got my DNA test kit. Now I have some sort of a clue how to do this today. Pamela
Re: DNA Testing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks~ I was thinking you'd have to yank really hard to get 50-100 in one shot, and that my lights would be kicked out by the time it was over. Glad to hear that they come out relatively easy and the horses don't seem to care. I did used to pull the mane on the TB I had, but she was such a prima donna, she'd fuss and complain constantly! Pamela
grain?
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Feeding can be such an individual thing depending on the horse. In our situation with a 25 year old mare - she needs grain (lots of it - 10-12 pounds of senior feed daily), 1 cup of oil and all the good quality grass hay she can eat along with unlimited opportunity to graze. Keeping weight on her is our main mission at this point in her life. On the other hand, we have a yearling and he gets a little grain and good hay morning and night. When the vet gelded him a couple of months ago, she mentioned he was just a little plump! After cutting back on his grain, his ribs started showing. So, increased the grain again. He's growing and he needs good, solid nutrition, but not too much protein - don't want him to grow too fast or get fat. In the winter I will feed a Timothy Grass/Alfalfa mix and possibly increase the horse's daily ration of grain if it's really cold. Mainly watching each horse for weight loss or gain. It's a good idea to use a weight tape occasionally and check for changes also. I do know people who only hay their Fjords, some of them have fluffy Fjords, especially if they have good pasture for them. And most Fjords owners seem to need to limit at least part of the herd's pasture access, because some Fjords just get so huge on grass. But at some point, grain usually enters the picture - either as a treat or as a way to give supplements it seems. I personally like to give some grain. They don't need much, but they need good quality grain and always good quality hay. It would be best to discuss your horse's needs with your Vet the next time they are out your way and come up with a feeding plan together. And watch your horse's condition and vary the feed with the condition of the horse and the season and the amount of work the horse is doing. Feeding requirements can change and the circumstances change. Mostly, Fjords LOVE THEIR FOOD!!! It's a big part of their day!!! Sarah Nagel in warm Idaho with June and Sonny
DNA Testing
This message is from: Jon A. Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I pull hairs for DNA testing, I wrap the hairs around my index finger close to the base of the hair and give a quick, but firm tug in a downward direction. They all come out in a nice bundle and no one seems to mind at all. They don't even flinch. I always was under the (probably incorrect)impression that the hair in horses manes and tails don't have the same nerve receptors as our do, hence they don't seem to feel it like we do. Look what we do the the QH manes and tails-they get pulled all the time. MAry Ofjord North Coast Fjords
Re: Show Time in Libby
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Morning! I have a rare moment to myself (and the computer.) Egads! You read, somewhere, that Libby was Sept. 24, etc.? I would have been in a panic. Just about our whole summer revolves around making that trip! It's been really tough balancing training, lessons, work and our private lives. I can't wait until the work part of it becomes training and managing this place full time. Of course, I'm sure I'll be busier than ever, but at least I'll be able to make more time for our own horses! Looked at a King Haakon gelding last night. Very nice gelding, but it was a great example of a very nice front end and a light hind end. His movement was consisntent with his conformation. We're looking at him to re-sell, and have been discussing options with the owner. What are the your terms for placing a horse on consignment, if you don't mind sharing that info? Just looking for some guidance. How is your summer going? Sounded like the grass was turning brown! Is that possible? We've been extremely hot here, 90+, until today. Only one hour of rain in the last month. We just signed up for irrigation water, and learned that we can't get anymore (for free, anyway) so have to scramble to try to buy some. Things might be pretty brown by the time you get here! 'till next time Beth
