Re: Blanketing Weegees
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't blanket my Fjords here in Alaska...It would be counter-productive to my way of thinking. The coat they grow far outdoes any winter blanket, here in the dry cold. Even at 50 below their own coats do better in this windless dry cold. I have thought (and have ordered) a "raincoat" for the wet cold rain/sleet in the spring and fall would be a good thing. My younger Fjord, Adel, was shivering severely last year during a couple of windy cold rain/sleet storms; the transitions from fall to winter, with all the wind, rain, cold wet snow is the time when a waterproof blanket would be helpful. This year tho, with all the rain and sloppy wet snow in the last couple weeks, none of the fjords were shivering and when I poked a finger down through the wet surface layer of hair, they were dry underneath to my surprize! Their hair, if left undisturbed, seems to shed the rain. DON'T towel them off if they are going out in the rain again. Don't disturb that top wet layer of hair. The fur underneath next to their skin is still dry! All of my fjords are pretty fuzzy now and would get pretty sweaty when worked. I use a hairdryer and put them in the stall to dry some after a workout in the winter, but I notice that their fur dries from the inside out...with the moisture collecting on the tips of the hair and freezing..Sort of freeze drying. Again, they will be dry next to the skin even when the sweat moisture has frozen on the tips of the hair. I sometimes trace clip in the early fall, when they start to get their coat and one year trace clipped old Bjarne in March when we had temps in the 50's. He was "panting" through his nostrils with all that hair and 55 degrees! He grows the thickest, longest coat of the four. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska where the messy "in-between" weather continues and the horses are a MESS, but seem plenty warm with the temps in the 30's. At 09:05 PM 10/6/1999 PDT, you wrote: >This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I can only blanket a fjord if a) the are penned or stabled solo, and b) for >short periods of time, as they think it's great fun to "shred the binkie"! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fencing
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes we also have "electric fence standards " that hold the tape above > the ground. The standards are light and easy to push into the ground so > to move the wire where you want it. Yep, I used to use those too. Tor thinks they make great chew toys. Pulls them out of the ground, without breaking the hot wire, and procedes to destroy them. Found one in about 30 pieces. *sigh* Laurie
Re: Brag Alert - Tank goes to KC!
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Way to go Cynthia and Tank! Have fun in Iowa. -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Blanketing Weegees
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I can only blanket a fjord if a) the are penned or stabled solo, and b) for short periods of time, as they think it's great fun to "shred the binkie"! Usually it's only a sheet, to keep them clean. I think these horses hair up quite well,thank you, and any insulated blanket is kind of a joke, kind of like a seal in a wet suit. When I am going into winter/fall, and want to keep up the workload or compete, I do a good old fashioned trace clip, in essence creating a blanket out of the top 2/3 of their body hair, but clipping out the belly,chest, and underside of neck. Looks really cool if done right, and you CAN go wild,if you are the creative type, (and what weegee owner isn't?),and do snazzy designs on flanks and hips...Great fun for those who love to clip. Tonite I will turn on my electric blanket for the 2nd time in a month...B! Karen __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: new to the list
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:52 PM 10/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Pat is the talented artist who is responsible for the design on the > List tee-shirts we all love. So let's all welcome her with a big > Thank You for our great shirts. .. WELCOME to the List Pat! You are one talented lady! I'm not a t-shirt person but the illustration was so "right," and so darling, I had to have one. THANK YOU! You must have a website with artwork? Ruthie, NW MT
Re: Blanketing horses
This message is from: "Brigid Verry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I find it hard to know where to start! Here in NZ our horses do get rugged, especially in winter. The ones that are in work often are clipped to help with the drying process, so that they don't get a chill. Heavy coats which have got very sweaty with work, or the horse galloping around the paddock, and don't dry, are a problem in winter. We have rugs suited to our conditions, of mainly wet weather.( There is very little snow in the Nth Island). Canvas with a wool lining, and often fitted with neck pieces and tail guards too. It did amaze me when I was working in Canada and USA how horses lived in the snow with no rugs. But it's the cold rain and wind which we mainly protect our horses from here. If I can help further I would be happy to. Kiwi Brigid
Re: fencing
This message is from: "Brigid Verry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Again in NZ we use electric tape alot for break feeding our cattle their pasture. Horses also learn to respect the tape, and will stay behind it. Some do jump out, and small ponies with thick coats have been known to go under it if the power is not on. Yes we also have "electric fence standards " that hold the tape above the ground. The standards are light and easy to push into the ground so to move the wire where you want it. I would be happy to take photos to show what a tape fence with standards looks like, and post them at a web site or send them by email if anyone wants more information. At the moment there are 4 horse/ponies behind a electric tape fence. I do not recommend it for very young foals. Kiwi Brigid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fencing
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Fred & Lori Osmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi to all, > > I haven't had time to go exploring on the web yet, but do any of you > know much about the white hot wire that people use? It's about 2 inches > thick and I usually see one strand up to keep horses in... > I have friends that have used this kind of fencing and they seem to be happy with it so far. Not sure if I'd use it for fjords though. I used to be able to use the more narrow tape for my horses, until I got Tor. It kept him in just fine..until he wanted to get out. : ) Yes, it was hot. Has anyone used the 2" tape with their fjords? Laurie
Re: new Fjord owner in TX
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/6/99 4:32:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Amber also drinks a tremendous amount > of water and her stall shows proof of this also. My Baldur drinks a huge amount of water also. As long as they urinate frequently my vet has had no concerns. As per your dressage question...be patient. B has just learned to canter on the bit and he's 11. He was severely fried by a dressage trainer 2 years ago and has just begun the mental healing. These are smart horses but they can be rather opinionated about their training. Kate
Re: Hog Fuel?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Josie I live in Sandia Park in the mountains outside Albuquerque and have never had any reason to blanket my fjords. As long as they have a wind break our weather in the high desert should never get cold enough to need to blanket. It gets much colder in weegie land than it does here. I also own a yearling sired by Bjarni she is wonderful. Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park,NM
Re: All things beautiful
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/6/99 16:34:08 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Not at all... I want a Fjord for pleasure driving for the same exact reasons you like them too; size and calm temperament. Not to mention, they are just darn gorgeous! I can't wait to be a weegie owner too some day! >> Also since we're digressing just a bit, along with the fjords, we've got a beautiful palomino quarter horse mare. After much thought and deliberation, we've decided to keep her. She's just a wonderful mare, needs some training though. Next breeding season, I'm looking for a bay Andalusian to breed her to. I know there are bays out there, but I need to check conformation/temperment too. I think an Azteca in my herd of fjords and lonely quarter horse would be great. So I'll be getting the best of three worlds, fjords, quarter horses and andalusians! Pamela
RE: Hog Fuel Warning
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Forgot to mention that the burning area (where the stuff was shoveled...or fed tosometimes by a belt) was also called the HOG. Is was called the HOG by the voracity at which it ate fuel. Best wishes to all, Fred Pack's Peak Stables Answer: Wood not suitable for lumber was chipped, or ground, into chunks. These chunks were fed into boilers to create steam. The boiler "ate" these chips like a hog. Voila: Hog Fuel. This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why is it called "hog fuel"?l
Re: All things beautiful
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not at all... I want a Fjord for pleasure driving for the same exact reasons you like them too; size and calm temperament. Not to mention, they are just darn gorgeous! I can't wait to be a weegie owner too some day! Sarah -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: All things beautiful >Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 7:22 AM > > I know what you mean. I hope I didn't imply in my other post that I thought > they were flighty or anything, they are wonderful!
Re: All things beautiful
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/6/99 14:38:00 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Monty loved my mare, but couldn't choose her because guess what??? She was TOO laid back! He required a horse that was more of a challenge to teach the audience with. >> I know what you mean. I hope I didn't imply in my other post that I thought they were flighty or anything, they are wonderful! Something that impressed me when I lived in New Mexico and visited another friend on her Andalusian ranch. All the Andys were really wanting some attention from us and TLC, they were lining up in a row, crowding each other to get patted. One grandma type of mare was getting miffed at the upstart yearling who was trying to edge past her to get to us. She picked up her hind leg, gently put it on his chest and PUSHED him away. I was absolutely dumbfounded. She was so gentle, but definitely made her point. Pamela
Re: new Fjord owner in TX
This message is from: Kathy Spiegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debby Stai wrote: > This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello from Debby in San Antonio, Texas. I hope to be able to announce > I'm the owner of a 10yr. old mare, "Amber". She'd come back from > training with a bum leg, a fall while being lunged we think, so > hopefully just some soft muscle injury. We'll know more in a few days. > The seller is paying the vet bill as she wants "Amber" sound for me. I > have lots of questions, too many to ask right now, so I hope you will be > patient with my ignorance of Fjords but also with mares as she is my > first mare. Amber drives and was with the trainer for undersaddle > training. Shes 10yrs and had never had anyone on her back. I am an > amateur dressage rider so any help from dressage riders with Fjords > would be greatly appreciated. Amber is very strong on the ground, I have > no idea how she is undersaddle. Amber also drinks a tremendous amount > of water and her stall shows proof of this also. My vet will do a blood > test on her to check for Cushings disease. She's only ten though, has > anyone else had this in their horse. I think its a thyroid disease but > haven't been able to find much on the internet. If anyone has info on a > website I can visit I would appreciate the help. Thanks for any and all > help and information. Debby Re: Cushings - Cushings syndrome is too much cortisol - the primary corticosteroid in mammals. It may arise by one of three mechanisms - one excessive administration of steroids like prednisone ( temporary ) - two over stimulation of the adrenal gland by a pituitary hormone ACTH- or three overproduction of cortisol by the adrenal gland itself in the absence of high levels of ACTH. Cortisol is the primary stress hormone and has many- many effects. It may take several blood tests to pin it down. Look under adrenal disorders or hypercortisolism as well as cushings.
Re: All things beautiful
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I brought my 3.5 year old Andalusian mare to a Monty Roberts clinic in November of '98 to be used as a "subject" for his join up demonstration that evening. My mare had no training other than leading/loading and standing still. Monty loved my mare, but couldn't choose her because guess what??? She was TOO laid back! He required a horse that was more of a challenge to teach the audience with. After the polite turn down for using her at his demo, he promptly requested to use her in a TV interview instead! She got on the 6pm news! That was worth the trip in itself! Sarah -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > A friend of > mine owns a beautiful great tempered Andalusian stallion. She puts her > handicapped nephew on him and he's an angel. He drives well and is a great > riding horse. All his babies are calm and nicely conformed. They are good > horses. I almost bought one before I bought my fjords. BUT I chose > fjords for a couple reasons 1) I like being a bit closer to the ground 2) I > like the temperment just a little bit better than the Andys. Andys are > gentle and sweet, but the fjords I've met have all been a bit more laid back.
Re: new to the list
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat-- Wednesday, October 06, 1999, you wrote: > Just wanted all of you on the list to know Green Valley Farm in Galena, > IL has subscribed to the Digest. We're happy to be a part of your > "family". We've only been on for a very short time so I'm not sure of > all the ins and outs, but I learn quickly. I just want to let everyone on the list know that Pat has ties to the list that go back much further than her recent subscription. She is the talented artist who is responsible for the design on the List tee-shirts we all love. So let's all welcome her with a big Thank You for our great shirts. -- Steve McIlree & Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA The horse has so docile a nature, that he would always rather do right than wrong, if he can only be taught to distinguish one from the other. --George Melville(1821-1878)
new to the list
This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just wanted all of you on the list to know Green Valley Farm in Galena, IL has subscribed to the Digest. We're happy to be a part of your "family". We've only been on for a very short time so I'm not sure of all the ins and outs, but I learn quickly. If anyone who is not familiar with Green Valley Farm, and would like to know more, just let me know. I guess through the Digest or privately through [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Pat Holland Manager/trainer Green Valley Farm
new Fjord owner in TX
This message is from: Debby Stai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Debby in San Antonio, Texas. I hope to be able to announce I'm the owner of a 10yr. old mare, "Amber". She'd come back from training with a bum leg, a fall while being lunged we think, so hopefully just some soft muscle injury. We'll know more in a few days. The seller is paying the vet bill as she wants "Amber" sound for me. I have lots of questions, too many to ask right now, so I hope you will be patient with my ignorance of Fjords but also with mares as she is my first mare. Amber drives and was with the trainer for undersaddle training. Shes 10yrs and had never had anyone on her back. I am an amateur dressage rider so any help from dressage riders with Fjords would be greatly appreciated. Amber is very strong on the ground, I have no idea how she is undersaddle. Amber also drinks a tremendous amount of water and her stall shows proof of this also. My vet will do a blood test on her to check for Cushings disease. She's only ten though, has anyone else had this in their horse. I think its a thyroid disease but haven't been able to find much on the internet. If anyone has info on a website I can visit I would appreciate the help. Thanks for any and all help and information. Debby
Re: All things beautiful
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/6/99 7:38:54 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Andy's also have this lovely temperament, which sounds very similar to the Fjord, also they are a strong horse, but can be kind and gentle, and love people. But you have to work with them, and teach them to respect you thru kindness and firmness..so am I learning about a breed that is a small version of another breed that I admire, when though they have evolved quite differently? >> Way different breed, but one I admire immensely. I think they're a little more "hot" than a fjord, but still have a wonderful temperment. A friend of mine owns a beautiful great tempered Andalusian stallion. She puts her handicapped nephew on him and he's an angel. He drives well and is a great riding horse. All his babies are calm and nicely conformed. They are good horses. I almost bought one before I bought my fjords. BUT I chose fjords for a couple reasons 1) I like being a bit closer to the ground 2) I like the temperment just a little bit better than the Andys. Andys are gentle and sweet, but the fjords I've met have all been a bit more laid back. Good luck and happy horse hunting! Pamela
Re: Blanketing horses
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I blanket Gunthar - and he loves it. During El Nino he was soaking wet for days and days on end. Sometimes it was cold and windy too. I never saw him shiver when he was wet - but he certainly did not look happy. At the time I figured he had SAD (or is it SADD). Now I blanket him when it rains hard - and, more importantly, blanket him after I ride in winter if he won't have time to dry out before nightfall. People here talk of horses on trail rides at the coast who have sickened and DIED from being tied to the trailer overnight after working up a heavy sweat - then sitting still while all salty and wet as the coastal fog comes in. In some circumstances that thick coat can be a handicap. At 12:29 PM 10/6/1999 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Larson wrote:"Do any of y'all blanket your Weegies for Winter? We are high >desert here and, though it can get below zero >and blizzards, the last few Winters have been very mild. This one, >however, is predicted to be colder than >normal. > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
RE: Re: White Fjords
This message is from: Mary Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was just wondering, do the white and yellow (diuted) fjords have pink skin and blue eyes like my cremello quarterhorse, or do they have dark skin and eyes? If bred to a darker dun fjord, will they always dilute the color? Thanks Mary Wood --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Fjord Filly for sale!
This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well just saying hello from Norther Ontario where we just had some snow fall. The fjords seem happy about it. Winter is coming and we have a filly and a gelding for sale. I know some people buy horses in the spring and some buy them in the fall. I was wondering if anyone was interested in a trained gelding or a 1999 filly. If anyone is interested please feel free to contact us at anytime. Wild Flower Fjord Farm 1-705-268-0848 fax 1-705-268-4068 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MZ
Re: White Dun Fjords
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 08:27 AM 10/6/99 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Anita Unrau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cameron Pedri that owns Anvil's Salamon and had him showing at the Turlock
show in Sept. was here yesterday to see Sal's sire and dam and
siblings. She said that Sal was registered in the US as a yellow dun
instead of white dun like we had him registered in Canada. Maybe Mike May
can clarify the white body color being called yellow dun.
Sure can. According to what I have read a White Dun has a black or grey
stripe in the mane. The Yellow Dun has a yellowish or barely discernable
stripe in the mane. Here is a clip from the descriptions I use:
Uls (White) Dun
Uls dun ("ulsblakk") is a variety of the brown dun color caused by a factor
which reduces the production of pigment, so-called diluted color. The color
of the body is almost white or yellowish-white. "Midtstol", dorsal stripe
and "halefjaer" are black or grey. Mane and tail has a lighter shade than
the body.
Yellow Dun
Yellow dun ("gulblakk") is the rarest of the Fjordhorse Colors. It is a
variety of red dun caused by the same factor as mentioned under uls dun.
The color of the body is yellowish-white. "Midtstol", dorsal stripe and
"halefjaer" are darker yellowish than the color of the body. Forelock, mane
and tail can be completely white, and on such individuals the dorsal stripe
can be indistinct.
I still am confused over the proper names for the white body colors.
Take a look here for color descriptions:
http://www.nfhr.com/Colors.htm
As far as I know Modellan is the only white stallion breeding in N. America.
Since Modellen is now deceased I don't know of any White Dun stallions that
are breeding in North America any longer. I have a couple listed as
stallions but they have not had stallion breeding reports filed for several
years so I suspect that they are probably geldings.
Eric and Judy Uthiem had also brought over one or two white mares. They
must have had some white foals that are out there somewhere. Sorry to
ramble on for so long but I really do like the White Duns.
Yes they had LIN. She had several White Dun foals. Not sure who the other
white dun they imported was.
Mike
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RE: Hog Fuel Warning
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Answer: Wood not suitable for lumber was chipped, or ground, into chunks. These chunks were fed into boilers to create steam. The boiler "ate" these chips like a hog. Voila: Hog Fuel. This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why is it called "hog fuel"?l
Re: White Fjords
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:12 AM 10/6/99 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I believe that Modellen's dam, Modella, is sired by Line's full brother Kviten. Am I correct? Yes you are. Here is Modellen's pedigree: MODELLEN N-1919 N-U-040-S Foaled September 30, 1981 Bred by ODD SCHEI, FORDE VALEBU N-1569 REIDULF REE N-1664 D-481 ADA N-10804 REI HALSNAES N-1833 D-542 HORSKJAER EID D-471 GITTE D-5294 PERLE D-5051 OLA GIK N-1703 KVITEN N-1758 FLIKKA N-13310 MODELLA N-14023 MONAR N-1579 MONLAUG N-12834 ELAINE N-10809 === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hog Fuel Warning
This message is from: "Teressa Kandianis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, actually, in my area (which isn't so far from Gary's), hog fuel comes from two different furniture factories - from one we get hardwood and the other one is cedar. The stuff isn't bark, its very coarse wood chips. Our local supplier gets it from the furniture factories and delivers it in 80 or 90 cubic yard batches for about $225. Lots of horse places use it around here because it doesn't break down as quick as bark or sawdust and for footing around the barn in the wintertime, it doesn't compact and get buried in the mud so it keeps feet dry - and water drains right through it. I haven't seen either of my fjords even attempt to eat it - they will try to paw down through it to get to a sprig of grass underneath. I don't have time right now but plan to check out that Canadian website that lists plants toxic to animals. And I have no clue why its called hog fuel. I tried to get some from the local rock yard where I get my bark for landscaping but they said they haven't been able to get it - which tells me its something different than bark because they have all grades of all kinds of bark there all the time. Teressa the novice from cloudy but still warm Ferndale. My older guy is away at school and you just can't believe how much more cooperative my yearling filly is being now that she's lost her cohort. Want a foot? No problemo - which one and how long? Don't need either a halter or a line to get her to stand still for mane trims and feet cleaning.I guess she's just showing off when her big bro is around.
Blanketing horses
This message is from: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Larson wrote:"Do any of y'all blanket your Weegies for Winter? We are high desert here and, though it can get below zero and blizzards, the last few Winters have been very mild. This one, however, is predicted to be colder than normal. Larson, NM where it is getting chilly..." Our "Weegies" grow their own blankets and seem to do quite well up here in N. Minnesota where the temps get down to -40F. Ours have a run-in type shelter to get out of the wind and weather. They do just fine. It's the cold-rainy inbetween stuff that seems to set them to shivering once in a great while. Then we just give them more hay on those days. Mary Ofjord North Coast Fjords
Transportation needed?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, My husband, Daniel, is leaving Sunday, October 10th from White Cloud, MI to Riverside, CA. Does anyone need horses transported in that general direction? Thanks, Lynda Lynda Daniel Bailey and Lynda C. Welch-Bailey Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Great Lakes Fjordhest Fun Day
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone! We thought we would share our first Fun Day with the list. It was held October 2nd, in Marshall, MI. It was pretty chilly and rained the entire time. Nonetheless, we still had 18-19 people show, and managed in the cold and rain to have a wonderful time! Bernie had been told somewhere along the line that if a new club managed to draw five people to the first event, the club would be a success, so everyone is quite happy about the turnout. Robin Bellor taught our safety/harness/driving clinic and was absolutely fantastic. She then gave private lessons in the afternoon, and later told me by phone she so enjoyed the Fjords and Fjord people she would be more than happy to teach more clinics for us in the future. The stallion, Ivan, owned by Anne Karns-Crandall from Nottawa Crossing Fjords was Robin's "guinea pig" for the clinic and lessons. He did wonderfully well, and even when he got a little bored all Robin would have to do is say..."Ivan, as soon as we are done I will give you COOKIES, I promise!", and off he would go again. It was amazing to see how calm he was with various drivers, experienced and non, and how patient he remained for the afternoon. Bernadine and Gordon Karns, also from Nottawa Crossing Fjords brought their two mares, Marie and Gretel. As a group we all had decided to bypass the fun classes due to the weather, so Marie and Gretel were perfectly content to hang out, eat hay, be offered water, and get LOTS of pets and pictures taken. Nancy Truipano brought her HUGE white dun gelding. He got lots of attention as well, and looked absolutely smashing in harness and cart. What a wonderful trot! Nancy is a very good driver, and I have no doubt those two will go far. The Northwest Promotional Fjord Group (I hope I got that right!) had sent us a package of wonderful items to sell at our first event, and the items were a success!! It was so nice of them to do this, it was really kind of them to "go the extra mile" to support a new Fjord club. Thanks to all the members of the Northwest club! All in all, we all had a great time with the clinic, lessons, playing with the horses, lunch, and just chatting! What a great group of people the Fjord people are. Thanks much to all who came, supported us, and of course our members! See you next year! Lynda Daniel Bailey and Lynda C. Welch-Bailey Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902
Re: blankets
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We live in Northern Minnesota. We don't even own a blanket for our horses. They prefer to be out in all weather, even -30 degrees. They are OK unless it is windy and sleeting (then we put them in the barn).The -30 is actually better because it is dry cold. Their fur puffs up like a new stuffed animal and they are quite toasty. Suzan
Re: Hog Fuel Warning
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Thorson, Gary" wrote: > Hog fuel is ground up tree bark. Why is it called "hog fuel"?l
Re: Hog Fuel Warning
This message is from: "Thorson, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hog fuel is ground up tree bark. In lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest, they strip the bark off of the trees before they saw the trees up into lumber. The bark is then ground up. Some people use hog fuel as bedding for horses. The problem with hog fuel is that you never know what kind of trees the bark came from. So if your horses are allergic to some kinds of bark, or if they were milling poisonous trees, hog fuel can be dangerous unless you know exactly what kind of trees they were milling. Gary Thorson Tumwater, WA
re: "Lighter colors"
This message is from: Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Jean wrote: there IS one downside to these beautiful light >colors: How do you ever keep them looking clean? Not all the "other" colors are light! Our Bjorn-Knutson is VERY dark grey; almost what you'd call "gun-metal" grey. Our only problem with keeping him clean is that the dirt around here is a reddish brown and tends to clash terribly with his grey, making him look dark brown at times! Yuck! ;) Amy Bud, Tillie & Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589 "Speak yer mind, but ride a fast horse."
Re: White Dun Fjords
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Me too! I really like the contrast of the white (wool) colored body, with the dark stripe in the mane and tail. On the other hand, i have always been attracted to a white horse in general, so I suppose I would like the type without the dark color in the mane and tail as well! Anita; your white duns are beautiful! Thank you for sharing the photos again. I have learned a lot from my original post! Sarah -- >From: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: White Dun Fjords >Date: Wed, Oct 6, 1999, 10:27 PM > > Sorry to ramble on for so long but I really do like the White Duns. > > Anita Unrau > Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjord Horses. > >
fencing
This message is from: "Fred & Lori Osmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi to all, I haven't had time to go exploring on the web yet, but do any of you know much about the white hot wire that people use? It's about 2 inches thick and I usually see one strand up to keep horses in... Do you know where to get it and do you recommend it??? Thanks and happy fjording... Lori in colder California, but getting warmer again... CATSOFOZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/MadisonAvenue/8660
Re: Horses for kids
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Jean Gayle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Jean Gayle" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hogfuel---hemlock---I have Hemlock trees and the > horses chew on the bark > etc. Don't you mean another tree or shrub? We also have hemlock trees/stumps/branches galore in the winter when the wind blows. All of our Fjords have "cut their teeth" chewing on hemlock in various forms and have had nary a problem. I think it is juniper which sometimes gets into the "hog fuel" and causes a problem. Is that right? Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Fløtren
This message is from: "Brigid Verry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with you, and would love to see photos and pedigree too if possible. Kiwi Brigid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All things beautiful
This message is from: "Brigid Verry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everyone I have really enjoyed hearing all your comments on Fjords for kids etc... thanks to all the great replies. I now hope I can own the right Fjord for our family. This will be a long shot since we live so far from Norway and even USA/Canada. ( I should know since I have spent sometime your part of the world( incl. Alaska) before returning to NZ and marrying a farmer, plus having 2 kids.) Firstly I know that Fjords do not cross with other breeds, but has anyone had any first hand experiences with cross-breds? Secondly, I realise many of you own other horses apart from the Fjords. Does anyone also own an Andalusian? A couple of days ago I was visiting a friends stud to see the new foals( it's spring here and our breeding season starts the 1st August and not 1 Jan) I was surprised to see the Andy foals with the eel mark. My filly is dark bay/brown so I don't notice it on her, but it seems the Andy has the eel mark too. (dark line down the spine) Andy's also have this lovely temperament, which sounds very similar to the Fjord, also they are a strong horse, but can be kind and gentle, and love people. But you have to work with them, and teach them to respect you thru kindness and firmness..so am I learning about a breed that is a small version of another breed that I admire, when though they have evolved quite differently? I look forward to your thoughts on the matter Kiwi Brigid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: White Dun Fjords
This message is from: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I found the comments about white Duns made by Sarah very interesting. Not sure if anyone else other than ourselves are raising the white ones but they sure have not been hard to sell. Over the years and the two hundred plus foals we have raised since 1973 the only color we have had a hard time selling is the red duns. Have always had to drop their price down to sell them where as the white ones are always our higher priced Fjords. Another interesting thing about the color is the different body types and personalities that seem to go with each color. When we were in Norway in October 1981 buying mares we had a hard time finding mares that were of equal or better quality then what we had at home. As we could not find enough brown duns Orville finally let me get the white dun mother and daughter mares that we had come across. They had the size, conformation and most important the disposition that we were looking for in breeding mares. Line, now owned by Mary Thurman, had a filly on her when we looked at her. It was a color we had never seen before. Gold body color and white mane and tail. Looked just like a palamino. All the foals we had seen up to then had been an off white with various shades of brown or grey. Never before or since have we seen the gold color. The Norwegians told us it was a rare yellow dun. Stella now owned by Jean Ernest, was the other white dun we brought over. Both mares had brown dun sires and been bred to brown stallions. Line had white dun twins in the spring of 1982 and the filly was born dead and the colt lived for three months. Stella was open but we had bought her anyway. Before selling Rusten to Chip Lamb in the early 80's we bred both Line and Stella to Rusty and they both had brown dun foals. Bred to Rudaren, who we imported from Norway in March of 1981, Line had brown duns as well as a red dun filly with a white strip. Her birth is another interesting story. We still have a daughter of Line and Rudy called Anvil's Lyna. Stella, bred to Rudaren, had brown duns as well as a white filly that we keep and named Anvil's Stina, the mother to Jean's Anvil's Adel. Stina has been bred to Leidjo all but one year when we bred her to Orrjo and the result was a brown dun filly that was sold to California. The Leidjo babies have been white's except for Anvil's Rebekka that is one of our darkest mares. Stina has produced two different types of whites. The ones with black in the mane and tail are smaller and squarer built and the ones without the black are taller and leggier. Cameron Pedri that owns Anvil's Salamon and had him showing at the Turlock show in Sept. was here yesterday to see Sal's sire and dam and siblings. She said that Sal was registered in the US as a yellow dun instead of white dun like we had him registered in Canada. Maybe Mike May can clarify the white body color being called yellow dun. I still am confused over the proper names for the white body colors. As far as I know Modellan is the only white stallion breeding in N. America. Eric and Judy Uthiem had also brought over one or two white mares. They must have had some white foals that are out there somewhere. Sorry to ramble on for so long but I really do like the White Duns. Anita Unrau Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjord Horses.
Subject: Re:_Fl�tren
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Julia, > > Would love to see pictures (and a JPEG of his > pedigree too, please, if > possible). :) Yes, Julia, please share his pedigree with all of us. When a new stallion comes in from Norway it is indeed an EVENT. Share, please! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: White Fjords
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Dave McWethy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: " Dave McWethy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have some wonderful Modellin pictures if folks > want to see them. I'll > have to dig them out of a disk. Yes, Dave, I for one would love to see them! I assume the "representative" picture of a white dun on the Fjord Colors page is also of Modellen - I think I have the same picture around here somewhere. His first owner sent the picture to me years ago when we exchanged pictures of Modellen and Line. We laughed when we received the pictures, as each of us thought we were looking at the same horse at first - we just happened to exchange pictures of them in almost exactly the same pose. They were so much alike in body and carriage that you had to look closely to tell them apart. I believe that Modellen's dam, Modella, is sired by Line's full brother Kviten. Am I correct? Would also like to see pictures of Modellen's son and grandson that you kept. Did they retain the dun stripe, or has it sort of disappeared by the third generation? Some of Line's ulsdun grand- and greatgrand- babies no longer have any black on them, although that characteristic may come from the stallion used. Thanks in advance for the pictures. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Hog Fuel?
This message is from: Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Okay, what was the original purpose in using hog fuel? Things are quiet here in NM. All the winterizing is finally finished. Just in time, too, as the temps are dropping and there's frost on the pumpkins. Now we get busy prepping the Weegies (sorry, Fjords) for the Christmas Cantata. They'll carry the kings to Bethelehem once again. I hope to get some good photos this year for the website but it's an inside theater situation with spot lights aand I'm a serious amateur with a camera. Do any of y'all blanket your Weegies for Winter? We are high desert here and, though it can get below zero and blizzards, the last few Winters have been very mild. This one, however, is predicted to be colder than normal. Larson, NM where it is getting chilly...
