Re: Oh Really??
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From CD-List, 3/26/01: Date:Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:49:05 -0600 From:millcreekfjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ponies - Fjords Norwegian Fjord Horses shouldn't be confused with ponies. The only = Fjords that we have under 14.2 are under the age of 3 and they are even = 14.11/2. Some breeders breed for the ponies just so they don't have to = compete with the horses or for their children but the quality Norwegian = Fjords I'm used to are horses. Frank Mann Mill Creek Fjords =20 ___ Found this missive of misinformation on the CD-List. Couldn't believe my eyesI did send him a polite little note, after the obligatory cooling-off period ;-/ Anyone else care to educate this poor man? Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: New foal
This message is from: truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: John Bosomworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday morning Deere Country Bess presented us with her first foal. Deere Country Peppin showed up in spite of the fact that on Saturday night John said She definitely won't be doing anything tonight. Congratulations on your little Deere! Judy
Purdy Horses (was: Feet)
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Marsha, Monday, March 26, 2001, 21:28:21, you wrote: Continuing the Fjord history lesson There were a few importations of Fjords into the US in the late 1950's and early 1960's. However, the first of the US Fjord registries (Norwegian Fjord Association, NFA) wasn't started until the late 1970's. In the interim, breeders kept their own records. One of these was Robert Purdy, of Buffalo, Wyoming (28 Ranch). I was told recently that many of Purdy's horses originally came from the Broadmoor Hotel herd in Colorado Springs? Can anyone speak to the accuracy of this story? Where did other horses from the Broadmoor go? -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse. --Robert Smith Surtees(1803-1864)
New foal
This message is from: John Bosomworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday morning Deere Country Bess presented us with her first foal. Deere Country Peppin showed up in spite of the fact that on Saturday night John said She definitely won't be doing anything tonight.Both mom and baby are fine and we had a good night's sleep. Her little boy came with a wolly winter coat on.He is so HAIRY!Guess he knew winter wasn't over.He had trouble latching on because her teats are so small. Don't think God did his best when he designed the horse's nursing station. Foals have to turn their heads in such an awkward position.They really don't appreciate help either. Is it right that they nurse every 15 minutes 24 hours a day?No wonder a horse can sleep standing up. Our stallion Turbo is now a grandpa! Fjordally yours, Eunice[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Eunice Bosomworth Deere Country Fjords Ayton, Ontario, CANADA `
Re: Fjord virus
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] truman matz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bravo the old mare! A horse that can infect a non-horsey husband with the Fjord virus is one that needs to have her bloodline perpetuated! What are these lines? Nansy's lines go back to one of the original importations of Fjords into the US, in the late 1950's by the Star Cattle Company in Texas. Her grand-sire is Solvfast, who appears in the pedigrees of a large percentage of the Fjords in the western US---often thru Nansy's sire, King Harald. (Both of my geldings have these stallions in their pedigrees, as well.) Unfortunately, Nansy had only one foal. The reason that I was able to get her for a using horse was that she was a poor breeder. This may be linked to her thyroid deficiency, or to the fact that she is inbred---her parents were half-siblings. By modern standards, she would be unregisterable, but back in the late 1960's, there were still very few Fjords in the US, making it harder to avoid inbreeding. She very definitely got the good mind that is reputed to come from those bloodlines! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: HM Travel
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exactly how long does the virus live away from its host animal? IN nostrils? In some kind of suspended animation? Did he say why all livestock? How on earth are the killing/funeral pyre crews in England managing to avoid spreading the disease to new areas? Perhaps we should all meet on Sunday or Monday in Oslo and share a bathtub full of vinegar to wash our clothing out in. I am only partly kidding. Gail At 03:12 PM 3/26/2001 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello - I just crossed the Canadian Boarder with a stallion and the vet at Sumas said... If you go to a farm in a country that has a case of HM reported... When you come home you should stay away from your livestock (all livestock) for 6 weeks. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Supplements
This message is from: Don Jane Brackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue - Blue Seal is the distributor for Tiz Wiz. We feed a pound (about 12 oz) of the Tiz wiz broodmare supplement to each of our Fjords. It is very close to the TDI 10 that Steve mentioned, but we couldn't find the TDI here in Maine. The horses love it and I feel happy that they are getting their vit and min. and they aren't getting fat. It only has 8% protein. Jane
HM Travel
This message is from: l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello - I just crossed the Canadian Boarder with a stallion and the vet at Sumas said... If you go to a farm in a country that has a case of HM reported... When you come home you should stay away from your livestock (all livestock) for 6 weeks. Norway does not have a case reported at this time. Bring plastic bags to seal the shoes and clothes in that you wear on the farms or near livestock. Or wash prior to coming home. The Ag control people may still require you to dip your shoes once back anyway so ... I like the throw away the shoes idea the best... Catherine Lassesen
DE-worming
This message is from: Joel Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nit picky, however, we are de-worming. Unless there is pasture mgmt one can de-worm daily not make any difference. Manure needs to be dealt with in pastures, stalls, whatever. Very nice if one can rotate pastures. One needs to remember horses constantly re-infect themselves total removal of parasites is almost as bad as a pandemic of parasites. - The plowing bee in Wilson Ck ,WA was fun even if it did rain sideways Sat nite. Not too many in the furrow on Sun. We mostly sat around in the shop, ate, told lies to each other. Progress, there was another team of fjords there. A good time was had by all. I think the discussion on hoof quality is good but have a hard time believing any breeder will volunteer that their stallion passes on bad feet. So I'll say C-1389 passes on good feet, bone, head, etc. Toot! toot.! Want to buy him ? Why do I always refer to him by number? Hard to misspell a # when looking up a pedigree. Joel Harman Brass Ring Ranch Mosier OR logging custom farming with fjords
Re: rubber horseshoes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] this answer if from mary harvey we recently had rubber shoes put on a non-fjord pony that was given to my granddaughter because she had been grass foundered for several years - anyway. we have kept her in a dry lot, feet trimmed and had her lose a bit of weight for two years - her feet are much better, but in an effort to see if she could become more sound with shoes, we put front shoes on her - she is trained to the cart and the first time, i took her on the road after shoeing, she slipped - upon telling our farrier, he said of course borium?? or the police dept in our nearby city(roanoke) uses rubber shoes and they wouldn't use the shoes for a second shoeing - long story made short - he uesd the rubber shoes that the police horses had used one 6 wk period and cut them down for our pony and she is going real well with them - i had her on the road last week and not a slip (she couldn't believe it either - she kept trying for the first mile to go to the side of the road and finally realized she was good to go) - i don't know long term what effect they will have on feet, etc - but she sure didn't slip and she seems a bit more sound with the rubber shoes - she went farther and quicker without as much urging after the rubber shoes - a friend told me that rubber shoes are hard to keep on, but so far they are fine (it's been about 4 or 5 wks) hope this will help some mary it is cold here in the virginia mountains today - had some tomato plants freeze last evening -
Hoof Quality
This message is from: Sherrie Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Ron Dayton, Yes Marsha, I know what you mean about the climate and humidity and the effects on hoofs. A few years ago we stopped at our friend Del Tanners farm near Minden Nevada and he had his two geldings, Dick and Duke standing in wet moss for a few hours before the hoofs could be trimmed. This was in the mid summer July/August and very dry conditions. Our farrier said we could get the thin wall built up by some of the hoof dressing they have out now and if there is a crack, use a good coating of iodine (we use a spray bottle) to kill the fungus that causes the crack to spread. It does seem odd that most of our horses have very thick and healthy hoofs. One thing I have noticed is that the overall build of the horse with the light hoofs, is long body, more athletic and lean, where as the others are more drafty and larger boned. RD
Re: tying after exercise
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/25/01 10:18:50 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A trainer I really like that helps me out always ties up his trainee's for 1/2 hour after their daily lesson. He's convinced it makes them a better horse and less barn sour. Nancy, I have read about this. The article said that instead of looking forward to being free, they're looking forward to a lesson in patience and with much less anticipation. It's 80 degrees here and everything is blooming that blooms -- we do live in the desert. Time for the nasty dust storms to start. Our falls and winters are marvelous. now comes the tricky part. Gail Dorine Las Cruces, NM
Re: Canola Oil
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sue Harrison wrote: This message is from: Sue Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again everyone ...well I have an entirely different topic today. I received an email this morning warning of the dangers to man and beast of consuming a familiar oil...Canola Oil. This is an urban legend, see the link below, http://urbanlegends.about.com/science/urbanlegends/library/blcanola.htm Lori
Canola Oil and Blue Seal Sunshine plus
This message is from: Sue Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello again everyone ...well I have an entirely different topic today. I received an email this morning warning of the dangers to man and beast of consuming a familiar oil...Canola Oil. Rather that put the letter in here, I am just enclosing the web address of a very informative article to those interested. http://www.karinya.com/canola1.htmne I have been using Becel marjarine thinking that it is a healthy substitute to colestrol- containing marjarines or butter. Then I read this Just what is considered safe to eat anymore? Contaminated meat, unsafe vegetable oils...the list goes on and on. Man will surely destroy himself at this rate! I will be much interested in hearing the opinion of anyone who checks this article out. It even makes a reference to Mad Cow disease. I have a question Is anyone out there in Fjordland familiar with Blue Seal feeds? What supplement would you recommend feeding to a Fjord? There are several to choose from...Blue Seal Sunshine Plus is one. It is 25% protein and the recommended amount to feed is up to 2 lbs. daily. Another is Blue Seal E-Z Pellets. Steve you mentioned TDI 10 . Do you know if it is available in Canada? I am unsure which of the Blue Seal ones to try, unless of course this one you mentioned is available here. Since I am unsure what else to feed, we are still feeding the 12% Blueseal Rider. Storm loves it and is doing very well on it. And I am wondering if the old saying might prove true here...If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Have a great day everyone Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)
Ticket Prices for Norway
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who are going to Norway in the April/May time frame, many of the prices for flights from North America to Europe have decreased. This is probably due to the hoof and mouth disease reducing travel to most of Europe. You may want to check with your airline directly to see if you can get a reduce price ticket. If you have already bought a ticket and can get a reduce price, they will probably give you a travel voucher equal to the difference. For Marsha and myself, the difference was $147 each. For those who were not going, maybe you may want to change your mind. The airline prices will probably never be lower. See you in Norway on May 1! Curt Pierce Bristow VA The Fjords are enjoying spring!
re hoof problems
This message is from: M.Bijster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary wrote: . Lack of exercise on good ol' natural ground can lead to a myriad of hoof problems, not the least of which are slow hoof growth and decreased wall thickness. If you don't use it, you lose it maybe? That is very well said, Mary Because Fjords are so easy to keep, many are not well looked after and get too little exercise and develop therefore hoof problems My farrier told me that only now Hansje had grown good strong hoofs, after a year. It takes a hoof a year to renew completely She had indeed decreased wall thickness, a bit loose even due to bad maintenance and no exercise People forget easily that they require good care, just as other horses do. By the way, the hoof and mouth disease is a real disaster here in Holland. 5 Farms are infected now and because the country is so crowded and the animals have been transported throughout the whole country (and Europe) there is much fear that it will spread. In England more than 600 farms are infected now The didease has reached Ireland and France as well. We are not allowed to go trailraiding, nor to transport our horses We may visit the barn and ride in the arena Some friends of me have their horses stabled at a farm with cows or sheep and they are not allowed to enter the farm. So the farmer looks after the horses and they have to wait untill the danger is over. greetings, Marion
