Re: fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/26/02 1:07:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for what early horse ancestor Whinny and Racer represent, it probably isn't the Taki, but Equus caballus mosbachensis or what Dr. deb Bennett calls the Warmblood lineage: Hi Jean- Interesting! I don't think the text mentions a breed or species -- I was just going by the cover art which is clearly Taki. Too bad the Fjord footage was not used in the movie! They are an obvious stand-in for the prehistoric equine with their similar appearance. Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html; Fjordings West/A / )__~ /L /L
Re: fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, you both may be right/wrongThe Unrau Fjords were used in filming of Clan of the Cave Bear but the footage was never used. As for what early horse ancestor Whinny and Racer represent, it probably isn't the Taki, but Equus caballus mosbachensis or what Dr. deb Bennett calls the Warmblood lineage: By one million years ago, the Warmblood subspecies - oldest and most primitive form of the species which we would someday know as the domestic horse - was already well established in central Europe. From this heartland, the horses spread outward, changing in form generation by generation as they encountered habitat differences at the periphery of their range. The Taki or Przewalski was a later offshoot. However, the picture on the book cover of Valley of Horses certainly looks like a Taki. my old gelding, Bjarne, was in that bunch of Fjords that were filmed. Too bad that footage as well as all of the really good Fjord footage from Thirteenth Warrior will never be seen! Jean in hot and smokey Fairbanks, Alaska, with a big fire down the road near the Chena Hot Springs resort. 85 degrees today again! The roots of this is the movie that the Unrau's provided horses to several years ago. Hi Gail- Actually, the horses Whinny and Racer depicted in the book series are Taki. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Competitor Conduct at Fjord Shows Evaluations
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivian-- Saturday, May 25, 2002, you wrote: The difficulty I see in regional Fjord shows is there is no Technical Delegate to help diffuse the competitors anger and if the TD perceives a real problem can then facilitate setting things straight... My comment on qualified judges is in no way meant to demean the NFHR list of judges it is just that in my opinion it takes a mighty amazing judge to be familiar with the NGB rules governing all the disciplines that take place at a breed show. I certainly agree with what you say, however I believe it would be just a hard to find TDs with the requisite breadth of knowledge as judges. And without an agreed set of rules to take as a starting point how can either judges/TDs or competitors really know what's expected in the ring? Just as an example, in a Fjord show several years ago the locally written rules for an obstacle driving class called for elimination for a break to canter, but didn't bother to define a break. As a result, the majority of competitors were eliminated. When I talked to the judge later he said he was aware of the ADS 3 stride definition of a break, and that only a time penalty was called for on the first three breaks, but he was stuck with the rules he had been given by the show committee. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, NE/Las Cruces, NM, USA If I be once on horse-back, I alight very unwillingly; for it is the seat I like best. --Michel Eyquem de Montaigne(1533-1592)
Re: fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/26/02 9:26:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And my Costco ad magazine has a drawing of a FJord horse that is related to the author who wrote Clan of the Cave Bear. The mane is not correct (brown and sticks up sort of sloppily, even though not overlong), but the brown dun face and white muzzle are unmistakeable. The roots of this is the movie that the Unrau's provided horses to several years ago. Hi Gail- Actually, the horses Whinny and Racer depicted in the book series are Taki. Waiting to receive the latest, which I ordered from my book club :-) Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html; Fjordings West/A / )__~ /L /L
Fjord Chat Sunday Night
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Re: fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw that ad also, and was so pleased to see a Fjord! Surprised there aren't more, seeing as they're so darned cute... Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html; Fjordings West/A / )__~ /L /L
Re: Driving Arena
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marsha, We should have known you would know these things. And what about the size for polo? :) Arena polo is something like 60x120 meters. (Our local carriage club used to set up the dressage arena for CDEs in the Horse Park's winter polo arena.) Sorry, no experience with field polo, other than driving around on one field, once. HUGE!!! Particularly when one is driving an 11.2hh donkey who is so nervous that she can't move faster than the frightened mouse creep. ;-) Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] And my Costco ad magazine has a drawing of a FJord horse that is related to the author who wrote Clan of the Cave Bear. The mane is not correct (brown and sticks up sort of sloppily, even though not overlong), but the brown dun face and white muzzle are unmistakeable. The roots of this is the movie that the Unrau's provided horses to several years ago. Hey, this is non-horsey, junk mail; FJords have arrived! In the June 2002 issue of Horse Illustrated there is an ad for BITE FREE fly repellent (page109) that shows a darling picture of a fjord and a young girl. Anyone know the fjord?? Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Driving Arena
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marsha, We should have known you would know these things. And what about the size for polo? :) Maybe play polo too? I can attest that 60' x 130' is too small for anything but a mini or small pony. Unless, of course, you're going Intermediate, Advanced, or FEI levels, then it's 40x100 meters. Yeah, in my dreams Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/26/2002 7:01:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the June 2002 issue of Horse Illustrated there is an ad for BITE FREE fly repellent (page109) that shows a darling picture of a fjord and a young girl. Anyone know the fjord?? It's in Horse Rider too. Very VERY cute! He's got a sweet little horse smile. :) Pamela
horses' adrenaline
This message is from: Jim and Tamara Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to share our good fortune that neither of our Fjords were injured last week. We live in the mountains of North Idaho with local wild animals such as deer, elk and moose. My husband was home sick form work and called me to come check our horses because there had been an incident. The horses are kept in a 40' x 40' paddock with wooden fence posts and stretched wire about 40 high with a single wire on top. They have never challenged it. A big elk came charging through our place. Our mare was going in circles and our gelding ran into the fence hard. The wire stretched out, he rocked back and jumped clearing the fence. He was checked and is fine. He is a big boy: 15 hands about 1,500 lbs. 4 miles from our house a farmer shot a cougar later that day that was attacking a pregnant cow. I wonder if that is what spooked our horses. Our horses are usually very calm and they have recovered. When I rode my gelding around our property yesterday he was a little cautious, but did everything I asked. Our horses are very important to us. Tammy Hooper Naples, ID
Re: Refinishing a Meadowbrook Cart
This message is from: Krist Martinsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI PAT, on refinishing your cart it is necessary to thoroughly sand before applying your finish. I assume cart is made of ash and oak and if you have let it go bare in some spots the wood might be discolored and might need to be bleached out to get rid of dark stains. It is nice to use a vibrator sander on the large flat areas but will require a lot of hand work on spokes and other small areas. there are high quality paper made by 3 M that i would recommend as they cut faster and last longer. Start with a 100 grit and finish with 150 to remove sanding scratches. Either a good marine varnish or exterior polyurethane would be fine. This bit from an old wooden boat builder. Good luck-Krist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 5:11 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Refinishing a Meadowbrook Cart This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fjord Friends- I would like to refinish my Meadowbrook Cart and wondered if anyone had any suggestions on how to proceed. Should I sand the wood and get the old finish off? Then, should I use a polyurethane protection? I don't want to start until I'm sure of what I'm doing. I've considered sending the cart out to someone, but was afraid it would be too costly. Any suggestions or comments would be welcomed! Thanks and Happy Memorial Day! Pat McCurdy Cato, NY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fjord in magazine ad
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the June 2002 issue of Horse Illustrated there is an ad for BITE FREE fly repellent (page109) that shows a darling picture of a fjord and a young girl. Anyone know the fjord?? Linda in MN
dressage judges
This message is from: Dave Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll stick my two cents in regarding judges at dressage shows. Granted we only do low level dressage, but I have found NO prejudice, infact they all LOVE my Silas. He does have wonderful gaits and they can see that. When we get high scores it is because I'm riding him right and when we get low scores I've screwed up. I have had SEVERAL competitors come up to me and say, I can't believe your Fjord moves so nice, or that is the first Fjord I've seen that can move decent or is that a cross breed?. That is my favorite, because I realize that people are just so uninformed about our breed. I find WAY more prejudice with the competitors than the judges. Like I said just my 2 cents. On another note, we've just started our jumping training and I LOVE it. Not sure if Silas does or not yet, but he's gonna have to!!! :-) We are doing lots of grid work. We went to one show last weekend but we were not really ready. Only one class out of 3 was decent for us. I am already getting, I didn't know Fjords can jump I just want to say DOY, they are a [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I smile and say it nicely, sure they can and they do it well. We have an open show on June 2nd, I'm hoping to do one jumping class(the low easy class!!! ), hunter hack, driving and the flat classes(english pleasure). Do you think people will notice how versatile he is. I could have done halter with him as well, but that is in another ring while the jumping is taking place and I'd rather watch the jumping. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI
boys
This message is from: Sara Faull [EMAIL PROTECTED] To add to the foal count- our stallion MVF Karimann produced one foal this year- a colt out of the white dun mare Ylva- he is a brown dun, exceptional conformation and personality. The boy trend seems to include our goats as well- of 19 babies born 6 girls and 13 boys whew. Sara Mandala Farm
Re: Driving Arena
This message is from: ruth bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am going to put in a driving arena. What size do you suggest? Ours is 150x200' and seems to be just right Gene even does figure-8's with the stagecoach in it. Ruthie, nw mt
the dressage issue
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My fjord miss Asa is in training with a dressage trainer in fort Collins and is doing well, my trainer is very happy with her ability to perform movements and her over all ability to be a dressage horse. I know nothing of the event itself except that it is the foundation for all training. Anyway, my trainer found an article about to months ago and had me read it. It was about a fjord that was competing at the prix St. George level. It was very interesting that the article explained that the rider needed to understand the horse and it's ability, that the horses conformation would set the animal on the forehand but that she as the rider had made the fault, and the judge was extremely impressed with the horse. She was given very high scores nothing lower than a six. I have to admit I find the breed to be very interesting. I love Asa very much, and I think that any fjord has the ability to make the marks that they deserve.
Re: Dressage, judge prejudice
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't expect a perfectly executed dressage movement by a fjord to get the same marks as those performed by a warmblood, since a part of the mark even for the individual movement reflects the quality of the gait. Since I am obviously in the writing mood thought I'd respond by pointing out that GAITS are scored in the collectives after the test is over. So a perfectly executed movement would/should be scored the same, be it WB or Fjord. The quality of the gait is always the basis of the score for the movement. You can execute a perfect shoulder-in but if the trot is putzy you'll never get above 6. That's because if the rhythm, impulsion, etc die in the movement it means the horse is not really working through, which means the training is lacking. Lori
