fjordhorse-digest V2003 #53

2003-02-23 Thread fjordhorse-digest

fjordhorse-digest Monday, February 24 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 053



In this issue:

   Horse Sale in Waverly
   Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #52
   Waverly sale
   broken axis
   Re: Waverly Auction, Hamlett Herd
   weather
   FJORD HORSE CHAT   SUNDAY NIGHT
   more Grabbson
   In support of my son
   Re: weather
   Fjords in Hamlett Herd
   Re: more Grabbson
   Re: broken axis
   Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd
   Evaluation results and record book
   Re: Evaluation results and record book
   13 th Warrier Sunday night on SCI FI on Dish TV
   Re: In support of my son
   RE: Loki's picture
   RE: Loki's picture
   Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd
   Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd

See the end of the digest for information on how to retrieve back issues.

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:44:10 -0800
From: "Ulrike Schnabl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Horse Sale in Waverly

This message is from: "Ulrike Schnabl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have been reading the fjord horse digest for some time now,but this is
my first contribution.To introduce myself: I live in southern BC and
currently own 3Fjords.I also own one previously abused American Shetland
Pony. He is the one I want to write about today.I bought him at an
auction where a whole pony herd was sold off,most of them were in poor
condition,all but two untrained,most of them were shy (even the trained
ones ) .I had planned to purchase some equipement there,but when I saw
all the meatbuyers ,I couldn't resist? to "rescue" one pony.I bought one
that apparently previously took part in parades.He had been driven in a
team.How anybody could have driven this pony in a crowd of people is a
mistery to me,since he is the flightiest horse I have ever encountered.It
took me a year of incredible patience and a lot of work?to gain his
trust,but I would never consider him for driving .

When I read about the horsesale in Waverly it shattered my illusions that
stuff like this does not happen in the Fjord World .Isn't it sad that
there are still people out there that think they can make a profit on
animals by producing quantity instead of quality?

Unless somebody has lots of time,endless patience and the necessary
experience one should really think twice before purchasing a neglected
?horse at an auction,no matter how cheap he might sell for.

Just a few thoughts

Ulrike

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Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:15:51 -0800
From: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #52

This message is from: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello from the WEST COAST FJORD FORUM!  We had a wonderful day with Wayne
Hipsley educating us all about conformation and form to function and Fjord
Type... We send our greetings to everyone. "We wish you were here." quote
from Gayle Ware!

PS. "Hi MOM" from Amy Evers

We are enjoying the wine and fellowship...

BETH & SANDY LOVE THE TAPE!  Wayne will email you later...

Catherine Lassesen
Days Creek, OR

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Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:37:48 -0600
From: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Waverly sale

This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Greetings from b ND.

I will be going to the auction as well, first I was going just to get a horsey
weekend away, then thinking it would be fun to stop in at the Midwest mtg. as
well.  We'll see.  Maybe I'll follow behind you Patti Jo.  :>

Now, we are thinking it may be a good idea to go and MAYBE bid on a couple of
the horses.  It is a buyers marekt currently, and it seems some of these
horses, tho lately not used, may be of interest to us.  After I received the
Waverly list , I did notice that some of the mares will be very close to
foaling and/or have young foals by their side, whci makes it risky for them to
be at a sale.  So, those buying, be sure you keep the newly boughts seperate
from your herd at home, as they almost need to be in a quarantine of sorts
after any auctin sale, just a caution from experience!!  But ya'll may know
all this already.


As far as not bidding each other up, and being able to recognize each other, I
think this is a great idea.  Lynda, come up with an idea and I will wear
whatever, - well, almost whatever, :>   However, the healthy bidding on a good
horse someone wants will still happen.  Some of these may get a good price.  I
heard a recent auction out west, either WY or MT where a pair of geldings went
for $6000.

So, who's all going??

PS. Great to here the good talk about Tim from Susan G.  and others, - after
all, he has had ads out for his stock for a long time, so after a while I
guess he needs to move them.  Linda L. had it right when

Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd

2003-02-23 Thread HorseLotti
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Thank you for providing the links, Lynda.  

Interesting!

Linda in MN



Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd

2003-02-23 Thread HorseLotti
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The mare you said you could not read the letters:

Annika . 

Linda in MN



RE: Loki's picture

2003-02-23 Thread Frederick J. Pack
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Oops
It decided to work this timeNice buggy Sandra.

Fred

Subject: RE: Loki's picture


Sandra, check the spelling of the link and re-send.  I clicked on you link
and get no page.

Fred



RE: Loki's picture

2003-02-23 Thread Frederick J. Pack
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sandra, check the spelling of the link and re-send.  I clicked on you link
and get no page.

Fred

All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus.
Fred and Lois Pack
Pack's Peak Stables
Wilkeson, Washington 98396
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158
   
  


This message is from: "sandra church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You're welcome to check us out at www.catalystdriving.com  



Re: In support of my son

2003-02-23 Thread MNoonan931
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Loretta, from one Marine Mom to another. Be proud of your son. He is joining 
the Few, The Proud, The Marines

My son is 20 and is currently in Okanawa, Japan (he left for bootcamp Sept 
24, 2001) and getting ready to ship out to the Phillipines for two months of 
Embassy duty. He is in military police. Jake was never much into the horses, 
but when he left and came back, he said he missed their peaceful company and 
volunteered to do all the feeding while he was home. Guess he found what the 
simple things in life can bring you. He is definetly a changed young man. 
Although still our Jake

Michele Noonan
Stevensville, Mt

BR it's currently 3 degrees



13 th Warrier Sunday night on SCI FI on Dish TV

2003-02-23 Thread Deb Williams
This message is from: "Deb Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

13th Warrior will be on Dish TV tonight at 9:00 PM
Debi Williams
Williams Hill Fjords
Waterford, Pa
Home of Tolgar,Belle and Levi,Hilda,Senja,Beckett,Rosie and Daniel



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Re: Evaluation results and record book

2003-02-23 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OK, another idea...Would it be possible to upload the photos which will be
in the Record Book to the pedigree page for that particular horse along
with evaluation scores?   (For all evaluated fjords)
Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska

>Mike May, 
>Are there going to be available supplements to the RECORD BOOK?  And there
>must have been photos taken of all horse evaluated, you (or someone else?)
>must have at least the photos of those receiving reds and blue?  Is there
>any way of seeing some of these photos, 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Evaluation results and record book

2003-02-23 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mike May, 
Are there going to be available supplements to the RECORD BOOK?  And there
must have been photos taken of all horse evaluated, you (or someone else?)
must have at least the photos of those receiving reds and blue?  Is there
any way of seeing some of these photos, especially of the Fjords in
Hamlett's herd that were evaluated in the 2002 Galena evaluation?  Do you
have these photos?  
Could you email these pictures to interested parties? 

Just an idea, I am sure we all would like to see pictures of some of these
evaluated fjords going to auction.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska
  
>I noticed in the Winter 2002/3 issue of the Fjord Herald the 2002 Galena
>Evaluation results listed A.S. Rinska, Amanda's beauty, North creek Gjoi,
>and Skyview Sven all getting reds in conformation, altho there isn't a
>numerical score given.  Seems to me these might me some nice fjords and Tim
>was trying to do something right.  
>
>Also, Rinska is a Modellin daughter, and her dam was a red dun, imported
>from Germany.


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Fjords in Hamlett Herd

2003-02-23 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I noticed in the Winter 2002/3 issue of the Fjord Herald the 2002 Galena
Evaluation results listed A.S. Rinska, Amanda's beauty, North creek Gjoi,
and Skyview Sven all getting reds in conformation, altho there isn't a
numerical score given.  Seems to me these might me some nice fjords and Tim
was trying to do something right.  

Also, Rinska is a Modellin daughter, and her dam was a red dun, imported
from Germany.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, mild and cloudy. +25F

HREF="http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372&OwnerName=Tim%20Ham
lett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0">A. S. RINSKA PAM-H-795-M
1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson.


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: broken axis

2003-02-23 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If Norway does not look for this, why would that be?  My guess would be that
they have not "suffered the consequences" of this conformational attribute
(I won't call it a defect right now, since the Norwegians, at least, do not
see it as a defect.)  

I did a bit of research on "broken + axis + pastern" and found it does
predispose horses to various nasty sounding problems, depending upon whether
the axis is broken forward or broken backward.  Not sure which Viktor has.
Could it be that the Norwegians use their horses in such a way that the
problems associated with the broken axis pastern do not really impact them?  

My guess is that Norwegians are not doing extensive endurance riding on
Norwegian Fjords.  Maybe, as Curtis pointed out, they have not really had to
pay attention to this because they are using Fjords for driving, and draft
for the most part (and selling to Americans :)).  

My guess is that the American evaluation system is going to have a serious
affect on the Fjords in Norway as a result of Tim's taking Viktor to be
evaluated.  It is probably for the good of the Fjord, but it is too bad that
Tim had to be disappointed in this way. :(.  In any case, Tim should be
congratulated for taking Viktor to be evaluated. I hope he gets a good price
for him!

Gail
>
>Tim was told that Norway does not look for this sort of thing and that they do
>have it in several of their stock.  You will see it in certain lines.  I
>believe in a past Herald they had the top stallions of Norway listed with
>pictures and one of them had it, they still placed him up there



Re: more Grabbson

2003-02-23 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There is a picture of Grabbson in Tim Hamlett's ads in every issue of the
Fjord Herald for the last 2 years,as well as the "Record Book" in case
anyone is interested.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +25 today

>I have a Grabbson grand daughter and she's quite a nice horse. Never been
>evaluated, but a good horse nonetheless. She's very much like how Linda
>Lottie described her Lena.


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Fjords in Hamlett Herd

2003-02-23 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello everyone,

For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and information as 
listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree page, being 
auctioned from Hamlett's herd:

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>GRABBSON
NFR-Y-150-S 1985-06-17  Untrained stallion, evaluated red.  

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>RO
 SANDY'S KATE C-669   BOF-D-477-M 1990-02-06  Trained mare, thrown 
gray, evaluated blue.  Bred to Grabbson.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=48&HorseName=Donder&Sex=G&Page=1&Sort=0";>BDF
 DONDER  BDF-Z-083-G  1986-06-01 Trained gelding.  Not registered to Tim.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=768&HorseName=haakon&Page=1&Sort=0";>LOCHSA
 FJORDS HAAKON PBP-E-309-SG  1991-07-09  Trained gelding.  Not 
registered to Tim.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>AMANDA'S
 BEAUTY C-621   EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15  Trained mare.  Is bred with 
colt at side.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>NORTH
 CREEK GJOI KS-K-1411-M1997-05-06  Trained and bred mare.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=817&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>HELDIG
 STJDRNE C-424 AA-Z-490-M 1986-05-28 Trained mare, throws gray, bred. 
http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200372&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 BENNY   TH-N-1562-G 2000-02-20  Gelding, started in training.

Bobby, 2000 gelding.

Buster, 1999 gelding, started training.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=5321&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 JUDY TH-N-1724-M 2000-05-24 Filly, leads.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 SVEN TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>A.
 S. RINSKA PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson.

Rick, 2001 gelding.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=5564&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 RAMONA TH-O-1944-M  2001-02-07  Filly.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=5874&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>GURI
 N-89-2710 N-C-2128-M 1989-05-27 Mare imported from Norway, trained and 
bred to Grabbson.

A 1986 mare, registered, has never had a foal but has been checked by a 
specialist, supposedly should be able to be bred.  I cannot read the name, 
starts with A, then 2 letters I cannot make out, ends in LKA.  Not registered 
to Tim.  Trained.

Raymond, 2001 colt.

Rustan, 2001 gelding.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 HENRY   TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=5870&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 SYLVIA  TH-P-2129-M 2002-04-22 Filly.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=5876&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>SKYVIEW
 TONYA   TH-P-2130-M 2002-08-20 Filly.

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=360&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>TEKLA
   BAS-X-178-M 1984-04-18 Crippled mare.  I cannot read this to see if 
she is bred or not. 

There is another that I cannot read, plus he added:

http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379&OwnerName=Tim%20Hamlett&OwnerState=IA&SearchFor=1&Page=1&Sort=0";>VIKTOR
 FRA SKARHAUG N-00-2529 N-N-1555-S  2000-06-13 Stallion imported from 
Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow.  

This is information as listed in the flyer.  I do not know if anything to do 
with the training is accurate.

Thanks, 

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords 
Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack & Accessories
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
FAX: 775-383-6813
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords


United Equine Foundation
http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm

Lynda C. Welch
President, PMU and Breed Specific Division
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  



Re: weather

2003-02-23 Thread tillie34
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  Oh that's too funny Martie.  I sure love the chat we are reading on our 
list lately. 
   I was looking out the window yesterday after our girls Emily and 
Taffeta finished their feed.  
  Taffy's 10 mo. old  "Prins " who was gelded before 3 mo. old  and weaned 
before 5 months  old is always the last at the feed box.   When he finished 
the girls were laying down looking so full and contented.  He goes over to 
Mom , nudged then nibbles on her face ,ears, and head.I watched  as Mom ,  
finally Mom gets up and walks away, he then followed her and  has his nose 
under her, looking for a little milk. Mom scolded and he left her to get 
what's left.  Water!!!  Its great to have a little one around. Tillie
P/S  our weather has been a little cold at night 30 to 35  and the days gets 
up to low 50. Beautiful but we need moisture. 

Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond OR  (541) 548-6018
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589



In support of my son

2003-02-23 Thread loretta reynolds
This message is from: "loretta reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello everyone,
  I figured that this might be worth a few grins...
My son Jeremy left this past Wednesday morning for Parris Island in South
Carolina. He is now beginning what he calls "a very long job interview" I've
never quite heard joining the Marines put quite like that. Now you might be
wondering what this has to do with fjords but.
  I decided that to show support for Jeremy, my 4 legged boy would have his
mane cut Marine style. So some friends who have a great set of clippers,
buzzed Duncan military style. He does look cute I have to say.
  Since we've had alot of tears here the last few days, I'm so grateful I have
such a wonderful horse in my life. (How could he not be wonderful? He's a
fjord)
Loretta who's now a proud Marine Mom and Duncan (the proud Marine Fjord)



more Grabbson

2003-02-23 Thread Lori Lemley
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I have a Grabbson grand daughter and she's quite a nice horse. Never been
evaluated, but a good horse nonetheless. She's very much like how Linda
Lottie described her Lena.

Lori Lemley
Conway, Arkansas



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weather

2003-02-23 Thread bolinsj

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Weather again today!  Just as we went out to feed this morning, a big 
gale and driving rain started.  I ran for the barn (late this morning 
cause I was on the phone), sloshing through shin high water and frozen 
melt from the 28 inches of recent snow and started getting the feed 
together.
Usually, Kilar and Wee eat on one side of the barn in two side-by-side 
stalls and Frida goes to the other side of the barn for her food.  (Away 
from the brat, Wee).  Today, because of the downpour, both Fjordies dove 
into Kilar's stall and when I put the feed in the feeders, Frida said NO 
way was she going back out into that rain to walk around the barn. 
Well, I was NOT going to grab her and LEAD her around in this mess, so 
I let her come across the barn aisle from one stall to the other.  On 
the way, she grabs an unopened bale of hay and drags it along to her 
stall :-) .  I yelled at her and she dropped it, looked at me like 
'sheesh! first they feed me late, then they expect me to walk through a 
downpour, and NOW they're mad at me for trying to help speed things up a 
little! Boy Mom sure is a crab!'   She's so ..  Frida.  Gotta love 
the Fjord-helpful mentality.  Wow are they shedding!  With all this 
rain, their manes are falling over again too.  Guess its clipper time.


Martie -looking for ANYTHING cheerful in this dreary weather.  



Re: Waverly Auction, Hamlett Herd

2003-02-23 Thread Curtis Pierce
This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Is it possible that a broken hoof axis is fixable.  I gather it can be
> created by poor farriery (or lack thereof).  So could it be fixed?
Are
> you meaning to imply that he could "grow out of it"?

I have seen cases of poor hoof care that looked similar to both broken
hoof axis or club foot.  When you look at the whole horse very closely,
after awhile, you can usually tell the difference between poor hoof care
and a natural defect.  The signs are very subtle, but usually they are
there.  You have to put the whole horse into the proper perspective and
not look at just each individual fault.

In the case of a natural defect like broken axis or club foot, I would
not use the horse in a breeding program.  In both cases, the horse can
still be used for performance with proper hoof care, and in some cases,
you can no longer see the problem.  Proper hoof care in these cases
means trimming more often than normal and by a farrier that has
experience with these problems.  Since "form leads to function", there
are qualifications in terms of what performance the horse can be used
for.  In this regard I remember what my German riding instructor past on
to me from his father, "There is no such thing as a bad horse
(conformation), only we have to find the right use (riding, driving,
etc) for that horse."  Therefore, although not recommended for endurance
racing, a horse with these conditions is still very usable.

By the way, I'm the one who bought a stallion in Norway with a stifle
problem.  In Solvar's case, his body was telling me that he was going
though a growth spurt, and his movement and hindquarter conformation was
not that far off to indicate a permanent problem.  As it turned out, I
have the best looking and moving gelding I have seen in a long while.

Curt Pierce
Bristow, VA



broken axis

2003-02-23 Thread Dave & Patti Jo Walter
This message is from: "Dave & Patti Jo Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm hoping Steve, our Vet will jump in here, I'm way over my head on this one.
BUT, this is what I know.  This is not something they can outgrown and I'm
pretty sure it's genetic.  He was NOT looking like a gangly teenager or "just"
young looking.

Tim was told that Norway does not look for this sort of thing and that they do
have it in several of their stock.  You will see it in certain lines.  I
believe in a past Herald they had the top stallions of Norway listed with
pictures and one of them had it, they still placed him up there

My feeling is, if the judges are telling you you have a problem and time,
feeding, training are not gonna help it, listen to the judges, take their
advice.  Viktor was looking good, really good for a young 2 yr old! If it were
not for this broken axis he would have gotten a red easy and most likely a
blue when he matured, he's a nice looking boy.

Perhaps if one of the judges would like to speak up and explain this as well
as Steve as vet, that would help others understand??

Patti Jo Walter
Francis Creek Fjords


I like the idea of wearing a green ribbon at the Waverly sale so we can tell
each other apart.  Perhaps the ribbon should go on a baseball cap so we can
see it



Waverly sale

2003-02-23 Thread Janne
This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Greetings from b ND.

I will be going to the auction as well, first I was going just to get a horsey
weekend away, then thinking it would be fun to stop in at the Midwest mtg. as
well.  We'll see.  Maybe I'll follow behind you Patti Jo.  :>

Now, we are thinking it may be a good idea to go and MAYBE bid on a couple of
the horses.  It is a buyers marekt currently, and it seems some of these
horses, tho lately not used, may be of interest to us.  After I received the
Waverly list , I did notice that some of the mares will be very close to
foaling and/or have young foals by their side, whci makes it risky for them to
be at a sale.  So, those buying, be sure you keep the newly boughts seperate
from your herd at home, as they almost need to be in a quarantine of sorts
after any auctin sale, just a caution from experience!!  But ya'll may know
all this already.


As far as not bidding each other up, and being able to recognize each other, I
think this is a great idea.  Lynda, come up with an idea and I will wear
whatever, - well, almost whatever, :>   However, the healthy bidding on a good
horse someone wants will still happen.  Some of these may get a good price.  I
heard a recent auction out west, either WY or MT where a pair of geldings went
for $6000.

So, who's all going??

PS. Great to here the good talk about Tim from Susan G.  and others, - after
all, he has had ads out for his stock for a long time, so after a while I
guess he needs to move them.  Linda L. had it right when she said this must be
really hard on him. lets not judge, but rather pray for blessings on him and
his horses!!

Janne in 20 below and cabin fever!!!



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #52

2003-02-23 Thread Lassesen
This message is from: "Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello from the WEST COAST FJORD FORUM!  We had a wonderful day with Wayne
Hipsley educating us all about conformation and form to function and Fjord
Type... We send our greetings to everyone. "We wish you were here." quote
from Gayle Ware!

PS. "Hi MOM" from Amy Evers

We are enjoying the wine and fellowship...

BETH & SANDY LOVE THE TAPE!  Wayne will email you later...

Catherine Lassesen
Days Creek, OR