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2003-03-19 Thread Conerstonefjords
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Greetings from Cornerstone Fjords in very spring-like Deer Park, Washington 
where the temp was about 60 today!
 After a chip exploded in our hard drive we are finally with the program 
again after lots of time and money!  Lost some important things so please 
send me your e-mail addresses again.  I am happy to hear all your news and 
stories and have been reading them with great interest.  I did get caught up 
on all the digests but couldn't read them all word for word.
 Just wanted to drop a note to tell you we have a lovely, very correct 
colt for sale that will be 10 months old on April 6th.  His name is 
Cornerstone's Jon Patrik and is by Kila Grani and out of a Gjest daughter.  
He has a  beautiful, rich, dark coloring and a gorgeous head.  He has super 
floating movement and would be an excellent prospect for any breeding 
program.  He will be listed on Betsy Bauer's foal e-zine shortly or you if 
interested you can also contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Jon patrik is the only Grani offspring on the west coast.  Come see him.  
You won't be dissapointed:)  We are located just 13 miles north of Spokane, 
WA and only 45 min from the Spokane airport.  We are always happy to pick 
folks up at the airport and have them stay a few days with us to see that the 
horse you are looking at is the right fit for you and your program.  
Kathleen Rollins



Ole the runaway....( warning, long and boring )

2003-03-19 Thread Sweetmule56
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LISA!!!
   NOT FAIR!  I was reading along, thinking of all my non-Fjord 
friends that drive, and one that is just starting to with her mule that HAS 
run away under saddle.and you didn't finish the story  Thinking that 
I needed to send them this storythen you QUIT!  You are making us 
WAIT!!  NOT FAIR!  ROFL!
   Carole Sweet  Modesto, CA
ps.am desensitizing Nattmann as we go along.with the pack saddle and 
panniers..lines everywhere around him, under his legs, 'tween his legs, 
crupper, etc, etc.



Re: "prayers for the soldiers"

2003-03-19 Thread Glen L. Porter
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Debby:
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Pat and Glen
- Original Message -
From: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: "prayers for the soldiers"


> This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Keep my husband and his fellow soldiers in your hearts and prayers tonight
and
> everynight until them come home to us safe and sound.  And prayers to the
> Iraqi people and hope for freedom and democracy and a better life for men,
> women, and children.  Thanks.  Debby



Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!

2003-03-19 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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> "Brigid Wasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So you did get the Tundra after all! Mine is still going strong, after a 
> bizarre transmission problem. [...]  Of course the warranty had expired 5 
> minutes earlier...

Funny how that works.  Like all the recent postings about mares
foaling when one turns one's back, I guess.  OTOH, the reason we have
stuck with Toyotas is that repairs are rarely needed.

> >  tow with "too small" vehicles
>
> [...] Did this with my Toyota Tacoma, although it probably wasn't such
> a hot idea. I'd say I "got away with it" but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm 
> sure it put a heck of a stress on the engine.

Yeah---both our little Toyota pickup and the 4-Runner "used up" their
clutches somewhat prematurely.  My husband blamed it on the way I
would "slip" the clutch, to get the rig moving on a steep hill (trying
not to knock the equines off of their feet).  Then, I'd remind him of
the time he weighed out of the quarry with 3500 lb of gravel in a
certain little truck rated to carry 1000 lb  I joke that it's a
good thing Toyotas don't read English very well---they don't know they
aren't supposed to be able to do that!  So, they just grunt, dig in
their toes, and get on with it---rather like Fjords.  ;-)

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Re: "prayers for the soldiers"

2003-03-19 Thread Holly Tuck
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Debby,
Our prayers our with you.
Holly 
> Keep my husband and his fellow soldiers in your
> hearts and prayers tonight and
> everynight until them come home to us safe and
> sound.  And prayers to the
> Iraqi people and hope for freedom and democracy and
> a better life for men,
> women, and children.  Thanks.  Debby 

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Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!

2003-03-19 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 3/19/2003 10:51:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Our most recent upgrade has been to a 2002 Toyota Tundra (still 4WD,
> V8, towing capacity 7000 lb).  Man, what a difference!  Now, my only
> problem towing on the freeway is keeping the rig under 70 mph!


So you did get the Tundra after all! Mine is still going strong, after a 
bizarre transmission problem. Some small part broke, lodging itself in other 
parts, causing a $2400 repair! The transmission guy swore this was the best 
transmission on the market and this is the first time he's ever seen a 
problem. Great, so it's just MY Tundra. Of course the warranty had expired 5 
minutes earlier...


> 
> Bottom line---one can tow with "too small" vehicles, IF they are
> Toyotas.  ;-) 

I hear that. Did this with my Toyota Tacoma, although it probably wasn't such 
a hot idea. I'd say I "got away with it" but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm 
sure it put a heck of a stress on the engine.


Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
Fjords 
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>Fjordings 
West



"prayers for the soldiers"

2003-03-19 Thread Debby Stai
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Keep my husband and his fellow soldiers in your hearts and prayers tonight and
everynight until them come home to us safe and sound.  And prayers to the
Iraqi people and hope for freedom and democracy and a better life for men,
women, and children.  Thanks.  Debby



Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!

2003-03-19 Thread Jean Gayle
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Jayne, I have an older two horse, oversized 2300 lb trailer towed by my 3/4
ton 1987 ford truck.  I think the "sway bars" add stability altho the
trailer tows quite smoothly on it's own.  Just a little less movement with
the bars.  Jean







Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



Re: Traditional Fjord Rider or Historical Pictures?

2003-03-19 Thread Quycksylvr
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In a message dated 3/19/2003 2:44:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, RkyMtnTrls 
writes:

> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hello, all -
> 
> I'm thinking of a new fjord cartoon - need to get an idea of the traditional 
> norwegian clothing - for a rider, or warrior, heck even a maiden (medieval or 
> the like?)  Having no luck finding this rather vague search on the internet - 
> problem is, I don't know how to phrase it!   :-)
> 
> If anyone could give me some tips - would greatly 
> appreciate it!
> Sher

Hey Sher, 

Try "Norse" "clothing" and whatever century you're after (example: "10th 
century") on someplace like ask Jeeves or Google.  The only picutres I'm aware 
of are in books, I can suggest a good title if you like, but I haven't gone 
looking on the net, either.

Shawna



Traditional Fjord Rider or Historical Pictures?

2003-03-19 Thread RkyMtnTrls
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Hello, all -

I'm thinking of a new fjord cartoon - need to get an idea of the traditional 
norwegian clothing - for a rider, or warrior, heck even a maiden (medieval or 
the like?)  Having no luck finding this rather vague search on the internet - 
problem is, I don't know how to phrase it!   :-)

If anyone could give me some tips - would greatly appreciate it!
Sher



Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!

2003-03-19 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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> Jayne Malueg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We have
> looked at some WW trailers that weigh around 2,000
> lbs.  This is more than our horses (smaller Fjords)and
> in a good range for the truck to tow.

I think you earlier mentioned that you were getting young Fjords?  Be
sure to allow for "growth"!  They do tend to "fill out"

> Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for
> the trailer hitch?

I've had some experience towing with "small" vehicles.  We started out
with a 1982 4-cylinder Toyota pickup (4WD, 2000-lb towing capacity), a
small 2-horse trailer that claimed to have curb weight of 1500 lb, and
a 400-lb donkey.  This was all perfectly legal, and actually worked
quite well, even in the steep mountains where we lived.

The donkey eventually acquired a couple of Fjord friends (1100 and 900
lb), and the little pickup was starting to struggle when it was asked
to pull both horses together.  (We still got where we were going, just
weren't setting any land speed records.)  So, we "upgraded"---to a
1990 Toyota 4-Runner (again 4WD, V6, rated to tow 3500 lb).  That put
us back to "legal" again, and worked well.

But then one of the Fjords decided he didn't like being shoe-horned
into the small trailer, so we ended up getting a 2-horse slant-stock
trailer (which I heartily recommend, for its versatility; I use mine
slant-rear).  Trouble is, that weighed 2600 lb, a great deal of which
was tongue weight, and in crosswinds, it sometimes felt like the
trailer was trying to "wag" the 4-Runner.  That was when we added a
weight-distributing hitch, which solved the "squirrely" feel of the
trailer.

As the 4-Runner aged, it became less able to haul that trailer around.
Our most recent upgrade has been to a 2002 Toyota Tundra (still 4WD,
V8, towing capacity 7000 lb).  Man, what a difference!  Now, my only
problem towing on the freeway is keeping the rig under 70 mph!

Bottom line---one can tow with "too small" vehicles, IF they are
Toyotas.  ;-)  Given what my neighbor has said lately about his Dodge
trucks, I don't think I'd want to try towing "on the line" with a
small Dodge.  And, a weight-distributing hitch is good insurance, no 
matter what you're towing with.

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Sue Knaak's Caption - free cartoon shirt!

2003-03-19 Thread RkyMtnTrls
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As many of you know - I caught a cold in early Dec. that became the flu.  Was 
almost over it, then woke up a couple of weeks ago with trouble breathing.  
Hubby rushed me to emergency and found it was now pnuemonia (I had that a 
year ago - doc warned me it could come back easily!)  I'm just this week 
being allowed to get back to work - so am behind on some of my orders (I've 
written to them, and explained what's up!)

When I was confined to bed, I wasn't allowed to do much - so I worked on some 
sketches.  I have 4 fjord cartoons now, and will have those ready on my 
website for interested folks to take a peek - in about two weeks (after I'm 
caught back up).  Will post to the list, so y'all know when they're ready.

While confined, I sketched a fjord scrambling up a cliff face with his rider 
dangling from his tail.  I really liked the caption Ruth submitted first 
"Built Fjord Tough" for that cartoon ... instead of for the cartoon contest 
of the driving fjord.  So, my website will show "Built Fjord Tough" with the 
cliff cartoon instead.

Of course, Ruth still gets the free tshirt, because I used her caption (just 
for a different cartoon!)

I am going to go ahead with the # 2 pick from submissions for the cartoon of 
the fjord being driven, turns back to the driver with a snappy comment  
that is "Is my stripe straight?!?" submitted first by Sue Knaak.  

I did keep everyone's submissions, recorded by date & time, so that when 
there was duplicate ideas, I could pick fairly!  Also, if I draft up a new 
cartoon, and a submission caption fits it from those that were submitted - 
that person will still get credit and a free tshirt!

So, Sue, when you have time, please send me an email with your shirt size, 
and the address I mail it to!   :-)It will be about 2 weeks for 
delivery, as I have a lot of work to catch up from.  Thanks again for your 
submission!

Sher
www.RockyMountainTrails.net/horsepony.html



Re: A day of horseshopping (long)

2003-03-19 Thread Epona1971
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Dagrun, you have such a delightful way of telling a story! I read this email 
several times and laughed every time ;-D

You forgot to mention the fact that we met a FJORD while horse shopping. This 
horse was boarded in Knightsen, owned by a nice older lady who uses him for 
driving. His name was Anvil's... something with and "A", Arne? She said he 
was one of those used in the 13th Warrior. He was fat and uninterested in us!



Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our 
Fjords 
 http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>Fjordings 
West



Trailers

2003-03-19 Thread M Korose
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Hi LIst
Just an opinion for the person loking at trailers.  I
really like stock trailers, especially for the Fjords.
 My biggest Fjord (and first) was hauled in my old
2-horse (Thorobred) and used to try and scoot under
the butt bar.  In a stock trailer, the horses
(usually) get to choose how they travel and I have
found that there are individual (horse-type)
preferences.  I like to let them choose if I can. 
Also, almost all get to enter and EXIT facing forward.
 This has meant that we have never (with 8 horses and
hauling others once in awhile) (Knock on wood here
that we continue) had a horse more than just
momentarily hesitate to get in or out.  We have a
small 14' and goose 20' stocks and (carriages aside)
never will have any other type.  Been to the dressage
shows, the fancy carriage shows, trail rides
etc...etc.
Look into it, prices are better and you can also haul
the lawntractor to the lawntractor vet if needed.

Marsha in VA
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Thanks for the truck and trailer help!

2003-03-19 Thread Jayne Malueg
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To summarize the concerns I would say that trailer
weight, hills and stopping are the biggies.  We have
looked at some WW trailers that weigh around 2,000
lbs.  This is more than our horses (smaller Fjords)and
in a good range for the truck to tow.  Hills are
nearly a foreign word in this area.  There is barely
inclines much less real hills.  We will likely haul to
Northern WI, but only the last bit of that route has
some rolling hills - still not very big.  The truck
and trailers we have looked at have brakes so that
should be fine.  I think we will need to be very alert
and plan ahead in driving as suggested.  We don't
intend to travel in any high traffic, but one always
needs to think of the unexpected.

Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for
the trailer hitch?  These are rated very well, but I
was wondering if any of you had experience with them.

Thanks again,

Jayne
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Driving Team for Sale

2003-03-19 Thread ruth bushnell
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We have for sale a very promising team of 2-year old geldings, "Duke" and
"Dewey," half-brothers by A2Z Thorson, that have been fondly imprinted since
birth and gently trained by Gene for driving.

"Duke of Url" is a Rokida's Niklaus (GR CH) grandson and "Honi Dew" is of
Dustin lineage. These two youngsters have been schooled to work together
beautifully. Sold ONLY as a team.

We also have a very feminine and friendly yearling filly with black stockings
for sale.. 2nd place at Libby. "Honi Bunn" can be seen at our site..
http://www.libby.org/~bushnell

We are located alongside the Idaho Panhandle, 17 miles east of Bonners Ferry,
Idaho, and are 35 mi. west of Libby, MT
406-295-5050

Ruthie, nw mt