llamas

2006-04-30 Thread CrystalZak
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lest you think i have forgotten what list i am posting on, this is fjord 
related. as you all may know, oz is still at the equine spa while i am 
rehabbing 
from my knee replacement (which is going quite well). for some unknown reason 
hubby got a bug in his bonnet and decided we needed some llamas. he wants to 
breed them and sell the babies. i was vehemently opposed but for some reason he 
didn't understand or care, and now we have two of them in the paddock. so far 
all they do is stand and stare, and get wet. it's been raining cats and dogs 
for 2 days, and been cold to boot, so our horse charlie has been in the barn. 
at his age (27) we tend to be a little extra careful with him.

anyhow he hasn't met these creatures yet, and though they lived with horses 
at their previous home, i am unsure as to how to introduce them to oz when he 
comes home. does anyone have any experience with horses and llamas? i have 
heard some tales about some horses being scared seeing them when they are out 
being ridden, but i am hoping fjords are more sensible and say hmm, that 
strange 
horse needs a trim, now where's my hay?

by the way, he's also adopted two orphan lambs and a boer goat. oz has lived 
with goats and i am not worried about that, but these hairy things are closer 
to his size. perhaps it will help that they are timid.

laurie, who is not quite sure when hubby will be forgiven for this little 
event


Re: Whip it GOOD

2006-04-30 Thread HapDayBMF
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In a message dated 4/30/2006 12:48:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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You all  can keep your own set of rules
Whisper ( shh )  to your Fjords all  day
Mine only hear when I hollar to them
 BULLWHIP'S  COMMING OUT  TO PLAY  






Lisa 

( hiding down here )



AMEN Lisa   LOL
 
Aimee


Re: llamas?

2006-04-30 Thread JadeBear
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Dear Laurie,
Across the lake and down a road that Braveheart and I like to ride/drive 
on, there is a llama ranch/farm/factory/on-going convention.  The first time 
BH saw them he was in harness (that wouldn't have been my first choice of an 
introductory outfit).  He got suddenly taller and came up with some really loud 
blowing and snorts which startled them from stationary llamas to running 
llamas.  That seemed to satisfy him along with me getting really active with my 
voice and the reins.  My beloved trainer, the long-suffering Melissa, is always 
telling me that they should be more worried about you than they are about 
anything else around them.  Anyhow, we trotted on and he just gave them a 
passing 
glance on the way back. I'll bet Oz won't mind them at all once the novelty has 
worn off.  
So, what color are your llamas?  Are they friendly?  I've heard that they 
can have some personality issues but then again I've heard that Fjords are 
stubborn and stupid too so that could just be idle gossip.  Have you named 
them? 
 Are you going to take llama-shearing lessons?  Will your sainted spouse be 
getting you carding combs and a spinning wheel for Christmas?
Keep us posted!

Kay
and Braveheart, who believes that llamas are really fat deer
and Clementine, who doesn't care as long as they keep off her grass.


Re: Pushy Fjords

2006-04-30 Thread Beaver Dam Farm

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Good Morning Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm Fjords in Nova 
Scotia.


I haven't had a chance to read the List for the last few days so missed out 
on the beginnings of the pushy Fjords thread.  --  But today I read it and 
saw Lisa's poem about the whips.  --  Not a bullwhip, of course, but whips 
are a good idea to keep  handy.  --


Many years ago, Arthur and I took three Fjords down to Southern Pines, NC 
for winter driving. We stabled at Bill Long's place.  --  I'll never forget 
someone down there --  it was a blacksmith, vet, or horse dentise --  One of 
them commented that he was surprised that our Fjords weren't pushy.  --  I 
was surprised that he thought Fjords in general were pushy.  --  My reply 
was . . . Of course they're not. Why should they be?


Our Fjordhorses are not pushy because from the earliest age, or whenever it 
is they land on our farm ---  We just don't allow pushiness.  --  My theory 
is that an owner/trainer just has to KNOW what is acceptable and what is 
not!  --  If you know that even the littlest bit of pushiness isn't 
allowable, then you'll take the necessary steps to correct it.


This goes back to my previious posts on LEADLINE TRAINING for the 
abies.  --  This is where the manners begin!  --  However, if you're not 
lucky enough to be able to influence your horse from teh beginning, then you 
should count the day he arrives at your place as THE BEGINNING and lay down 
the ground rules from the  moment he steps on your property.


This Day One is a great opportunity to correctly previous bad habits because 
for the horse it really is Day One.  He's unsrue of himself in a new place 
and much more amenable to taking directions from you, than after he gets 
settled in.


We never ride or drive new horses right away.  We wait at least five days 
and use those days to establish law and order and leadership.


If the horse is pushy, put a chain over his nose and tweak it.  --  Don't 
break his now --  Just rattle the chain and remind him to mind his manners.


Carry a crop!  --  This is a good idea because you may need to use it, and 
if you don't have it in your hand, you're forced to smack him with your hand 
which may hurt you, and worse . . . May have absolutely no impression on the 
horse.


I remember one of the books I read while living in France  --   riding 
without spurs was like riding in pantoufles (slippers)  --  He also 
advised always carrying a crop.  Not that you often have to use it, but it's 
a good thing to have in case you do.  --


We leave an old driving whip at the each gate, so that if the horses even 
think of crowding the gate, we can remind them not to.


Now I've got to run and work outside.

Kind Regards,  Carol Rivoire




Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II, Ltd.
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Re: llamas

2006-04-30 Thread Beth Pulsifer
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I haven't a clue but wish you luck anyway... I love LLamas ... This should
be interesting! :)

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Date: 04/30/06 02:44:22
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: llamas

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lest you think i have forgotten what list i am posting on, this is fjord
related. as you all may know, oz is still at the equine spa while i am
rehabbing
from my knee replacement (which is going quite well). for some unknown
reason
hubby got a bug in his bonnet and decided we needed some llamas. he wants to
breed them and sell the babies. i was vehemently opposed but for some reason
he
didn't understand or care, and now we have two of them in the paddock. so
far
all they do is stand and stare, and get wet. it's been raining cats and dogs
for 2 days, and been cold to boot, so our horse charlie has been in the barn

at his age (27) we tend to be a little extra careful with him.

anyhow he hasn't met these creatures yet, and though they lived with horses
at their previous home, i am unsure as to how to introduce them to oz when
he
comes home. does anyone have any experience with horses and llamas? i have
heard some tales about some horses being scared seeing them when they are
out
being ridden, but i am hoping fjords are more sensible and say hmm, that
strange
horse needs a trim, now where's my hay?

by the way, he's also adopted two orphan lambs and a boer goat. oz has lived
with goats and i am not worried about that, but these hairy things are
closer
to his size. perhaps it will help that they are timid.

laurie, who is not quite sure when hubby will be forgiven for this little
event

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Fjords at the Minnesota Horse Expo

2006-04-30 Thread jfallander
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I just want to congratulate the fjord contingent at the Minnesota Horse Expo. 
The breed demonstration had many wonderfully turned-out fjords who did a great 
job showing off what fjordies can do. I'm looking forward to the official 
report, but as a member of the audience who got to watch all of the breed 
demos, I can tell you the fjords were one of best there.
 
Well done!
 
-Jane in Saint Paul
Fjord admirer 


Parelli Fjords

2006-04-30 Thread KateSeidel
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I happened to see a copy of the Parelli Savvy Club DVD (Issue 10 - June  
2005).  There is a clip of a group of kids playing with their Fjords in  
Germany.  
Some of them are definitely Fjords, although they almost all have  long 
manes.  I was wondering if anyone else had seen this clip?  The  piece was 
great - 
the sight of 6 or 7 Fjords cantering and galloping in unison  in this arena, 
bareback, no bridles was inspiring!
 
Kate and Joe (sporting a newly trimmed, albeit slightly lopsided,  mane)


Re: llamas

2006-04-30 Thread CharsFunnyFarm
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Laurie,
 
I have two llamas in an enclosure around my shed-barn.   They have kept my 
chickens and ducks safe for the past few years.  When I  brought home my TWH, 
the llamas made him snort and shy as we walked by to his  separate corral.  The 
neighbor will stop all outdoor horse activity if my  llamas get out of their 
enclosure and roam the dividing field because her horses  are so afraid of 
them.  
 
However, when we got our little 11hh pony last week, I led her  right up to 
the enclosure and put her in with the llamas.  The llamas ran  around acting 
like rabbits - BOING-BOING-BOING
and have stayed WAY far away from that scary pony!   Since the pony has 
found out it's kinda fun to follow the squawking chickens and  ducks, I have no 
doubt she'll soon be chasing the llamas around,  too!
 
To make this Fjord relatedWoody is still at the trainer's,  so that my 13 
year old son learns basic riding skills.  When Woody comes  home, he'll be in 
a corral next to the llamas so that he gets used to them  quickly. 
 
Another llama fact is that they sell for SO cheap ($300.00 in  California) 
and not everyone really wants a llama.  My Mama Llama was one  of those 
original 
high priced llamas, and people just weren't willing to spend  $$$ on llama 
babies from her, when they could go elsewhere and get a $300.00  llama.  I 
ended 
up giving away my herd and only keeping Mama Llama and  Llacy Llama, her baby.
 
Charla


Re: llamas

2006-04-30 Thread Brian Blevins

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Regarding llamas and fjords - it always depends on the individual but when I 
introduced my two new fjords to my 3 llamas they could care less about each 
other.  Now that one fjord is at the trainers the other fjord has decided 
these hairy guys are not that bad.  They graze with each other and will 
sleep next to each other - they all have free roam of 30 acres but stay 
close together.


Llamas have very interesting personalities and life styles.  They are fun 
but I do not think you will make much money with them.  My 3 came fully 
trained for packing and cost me less than $1,000 for all 3.


Original Message Follows
From: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: Re: llamas
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:11:16 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

This message is from: Beth Pulsifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I haven't a clue but wish you luck anyway... I love LLamas ... This should
be interesting! :)

---Original Message---

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 04/30/06 02:44:22
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: llamas

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lest you think i have forgotten what list i am posting on, this is fjord
related. as you all may know, oz is still at the equine spa while i am
rehabbing
from my knee replacement (which is going quite well). for some unknown
reason
hubby got a bug in his bonnet and decided we needed some llamas. he wants to
breed them and sell the babies. i was vehemently opposed but for some reason
he
didn't understand or care, and now we have two of them in the paddock. so
far
all they do is stand and stare, and get wet. it's been raining cats and dogs
for 2 days, and been cold to boot, so our horse charlie has been in the barn

at his age (27) we tend to be a little extra careful with him.

anyhow he hasn't met these creatures yet, and though they lived with horses
at their previous home, i am unsure as to how to introduce them to oz when
he
comes home. does anyone have any experience with horses and llamas? i have
heard some tales about some horses being scared seeing them when they are
out
being ridden, but i am hoping fjords are more sensible and say hmm, that
strange
horse needs a trim, now where's my hay?

by the way, he's also adopted two orphan lambs and a boer goat. oz has lived
with goats and i am not worried about that, but these hairy things are
closer
to his size. perhaps it will help that they are timid.

laurie, who is not quite sure when hubby will be forgiven for this little
event

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Re: Parelli Fjords

2006-04-30 Thread Jean Ernest
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Yes, I am a member of the Savvy club so have that DVD. I was happy to see 
the Fjords! Pretty impressive.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny  and snow almost gone.


I happened to see a copy of the Parelli Savvy Club DVD (Issue 10 - June
2005).  There is a clip of a group of kids playing with their Fjords 
in  Germany.
Some of them are definitely Fjords, although they almost all have  long
manes.  I was wondering if anyone else had seen this clip?  The  piece was 
great -
the sight of 6 or 7 Fjords cantering and galloping in unison  in this arena,
bareback, no bridles was inspiring!