Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #52

2007-03-03 Thread CrystalZak
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 And we live in northern Minnesota, where we get
 20-40 below zero temps for months every year, too. 


kate, i have probably asked this before, but since i am indeed 60(!!!) now, i
can't remember. where in minnesota are you? are you going to the minnesota
horse expo in april? there is another 15 hand, drafty fjord loverboy who is
going to be there..OZ. and he would love to meet you. this is the first
year i
have taken him down, and we get to ride in the huge arena of the coliseum,
and talk fjord for 3 straight days..

laurie, and oz, who got a couple of days off from riding this week, since i
was basically snowed in


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Re: National Drive

2007-03-03 Thread JadeBear
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Hi Tiffany!
I'm planning to go to the National Drive at the Horse Park in October and 
I'm really excited about it.  I'm not sure how to sign up for stalls 
though...do you know with whom we should speak on that subject?  On which 
website did 
you see the reservation info?  I'm hoping to take both my Fjords (and my 
brother too - it'll be a really different kind of weekend for him!).  I've 
never 
been to the park but everyone says it's beautiful, that the Museum of the Horse 
is not to be missed and that the seminars and workshops are great!
I hope we can both get it arranged.  If you bring your Fjord, maybe we 
can stage pony races to the carrot bar!

Kay Van Natta @ Yellow Pony Farm in SE MI
and Braveheart, who says, Oh boy!  New trails!
and Bogie, who says,Trailer ride?  Why?  I like the old trails.

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Re: ugly stages

2007-03-03 Thread kate charboneau
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Hi Linda,  I agree, time will improve things. Fredlet was looking better,
well, less bad anyway, this morning, so I measured him.  He's only
downhill by 1 now, so this just has to be about growthiness. I found a
zillion internet pictures of an old Blue Earth show on Living in Oz. 
Of course I went immediately to the group titled, 2  3 yr old geldings
and saw quite clearly what a good fit my Fred would have been with that
group.  Then I checked out the 4  5 yr old geldings and lo and behold
that group of boys had pulled their bodies together.  You are right, I
just have to get the expectations out of my head that he should mature
like Other Breeds.  Seeing that picture group of 2  3 year old geldings 
really did me alot of good.  As well as so many of you telling me to just
hold on, he'll get around to maturing in his own time.  Thanks, all. 
I've settled my brain down on it.  It's like he's a year slower than I
expected.  I can deal with that.  Kate

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Kate.give your boy time.  Winter is the worst time of the year for
looksfjords mature slowly.  If you are used to the other breeds,
well, just give him time.  About this time of year I have to trim the
goat
hairs as I am just tired of looking at the yak look :)

Linda

Laurie  Oz,

I'm so sure that we must be nearly neighbors... I'm in Bemidji.  Where
are you? 

I will be going to Expo, just hubby  me; Fred will stay home.  We're
planning on taking in the fun, and especially on hanging with the Fjords
 their people.  I'm eager to meet you  Oz there!  I'd love to try my
hand at hugging and smooching on a 15H, drafty Fjord loverboy!  Since I'm
a retired show mom, I am much better at supporting the do-er than on
being the do-er; and I'm eager to lend a hand to all you do-ers at
Expo.   :)   

Also, I've been wondering if the Heike you write about is the same woman
that I've heard has a Fjord stallion that is a certified Posse horse? If
so, I think she may have a mare, Lily,  that's from Bemidji. 

:)  Kate  Fred

laurie, who has been working from home because minnesota is in the midst
of a
3 day blizzard

kate, i have probably asked this before, but since i am indeed 60(!!!)
now, i
can't remember. where in minnesota are you? are you going to the
minnesota
horse expo in april? there is another 15 hand, drafty fjord loverboy who
is
going to be there..OZ. and he would love to meet you. this is the
first
year i
have taken him down, and we get to ride in the huge arena of the
coliseum,
and talk fjord for 3 straight days..

laurie, and oz, who got a couple of days off from riding this week,
since i
was basically snowed in





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Content preview:  Hi Linda, I agree, time will improve things. Fredlet
  was looking better, well, less bad anyway, this morning, so I measured
  him. He's only downhill by 1 now, so this just has to be about
  growthiness. I found a zillion internet pictures of an old Blue Earth
  show on Living in Oz. Of course I went immediately to the group
  titled, 2  3 yr old geldings and saw quite clearly what a good fit
  my Fred would have been with that group. Then I checked out the 4  5
  yr old geldings and lo and behold that group of boys had pulled their
  bodies together. You are right, I just have to get the expectations out
  of my head that he should mature like Other Breeds. Seeing that picture
  group of 2  3 year old geldings really did me alot of good. As well as
  so many of you telling me to just hold on, he'll get around to maturing
  in his own time. Thanks, all. I've settled my brain down on it. It's
  like he's a year slower than I expected. I can deal with that. Kate
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RE: choosing low-maintenance Fjord

2007-03-03 Thread kate charboneau
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My aged Welsh/Paint has soft, white feet.  He has lovely shaped feet, but
they sure are soft, and he's gimpy on anything but sugar-sand or grass. 
Therefore he's shod spring through fall.  Those white feet are topped
with flashy high white socks that have soft, thin skin which is
continually getting scratches (a fungal infection).  This lovely boy
also has a wide blaze that touches his pretty blue eyes.  This means that
the glare of the sun off the snow is very painful for him. In winter I
smudge black horse make-up (the stuff my daughter used to use to blacken
her bay's muzzle for showing) around his eyes to help lessen the
glare.  In the summer I am constantly putting sun screen around his eyes,
and I still can't entirely keep him from burning and peeling.  His silky
soft forlock, mane  touch-the-ground tail are constantly in dredlocks,
even though I brush them out almost daily. 

These are some of the factors involved in my choosing a Fjord to be the
horse to take over as my Welsh/Paint retires.  I am eager for those rock
hard, nicely cupped hooves to take us down the roads  trails!  I love
that no-nonsense brown dun with dark brown eyes that just take care of
themselves!  I love his thick winter coat and pokey-uppy mane.  I love
that tail that never gets dredlocks!  My husband teases me that I've
never really outgrown Barbies, because I so love brushing, braiding, and
dressing my horses.  He's right, I absolutely love the tending and
fussing; but I chose the Fjord for my next horse because its a choice to
do all that for him, not a necessity like it is for my retiring horse.



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  shaped feet, but they sure are soft, and he's gimpy on anything but
  sugar-sand or grass. Therefore he's shod spring through fall. Those
  white feet are topped with flashy high white socks that have soft, thin
  skin which is continually getting scratches (a fungal infection).
  This lovely boy also has a wide blaze that touches his pretty blue
  eyes. This means that the glare of the sun off the snow is very painful
  for him. In winter I smudge black horse make-up (the stuff my daughter
  used to use to blacken her bay's muzzle for showing) around his eyes to
  help lessen the glare. In the summer I am constantly putting sun screen
  around his eyes, and I still can't entirely keep him from burning and
  peeling. His silky soft forlock, mane  touch-the-ground tail are
  constantly in dredlocks, even though I brush them out almost daily.
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Safer Driving

2007-03-03 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 2/26/2007 10:37:33 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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 I saw the fury and power of a runaway team.
 It reminds me of a quote from one of Connecticut's oldest
 residents visited by a reporter at her nursing home. She was asked how
 she had lived so long and she said, My Dad long ago told me to watch out
 for mad dogs and runaway horses.
 Valerie in snowy Connecticut


Thanks for the post and good reminder Valerie. I also missed Ruth's
post about the wreck in the Tueson Rodeo Parade, which sadly resulted in a
childs death.  * This next, copied with permission from a Pony List,is another
sad
but timely reminder of what can and will go wrong in the dangerous sport of
carriage driving.


*
*
 We have a Shetland pony I have been ground driving for years. 
Finally,  last year I bit the bullet and bought a cart and decide I'm
going to learn to drive.

I found several good groups through yahoo,  and started reading in
search for knowledge (I'm always searching for knowledge and
sometimes that gets  in the way of things I already know).   I made a
few post in hopes of finding some more pony friends.

To make a long story short, I met someone fairly local and went and
drove with her a few times. I enjoyed it and respected the fact she
had been driving for several years and seems like she has had
extensive training.  I felt greateful for the opportunity to drive
with her.  She came out a time or 2 and watched my pony ground drive
and such.

  I did months of ground work with pony and the cart, and  I was
anxious to hook my pony for the 1st time.   I thought with her
experience and help I would be more confident.  When the day came and
we decided to hook him, my confidence was chipped away as I followed
the guidence I was given.

   I was told it is best to be in a open area to do the first hitch  -
I wanted to do it in the small fenced area I had available -not
ideal but it would have kept the pony from running into the road, etc.
 
  I thought someone should hold a saftey line to help turn him in a
circle if he bolted. I asked and was told it wasn't needed. My
mentor's son even said Shouldn't we take it? and again,  We won't
need it. was the reply.
   I tried to take all the precautions I could - I even took the
pony's barn buddy to the field at the end of the farm lane he was
going to be driven down, thinking he would be calmed by the sight of
his buddy once we got to the end of the lane.

A truck at the other end of the lane complicated things.  As we were
trying to hook him,  he kept wanting to turn and watch that truck, so
I was told to let him stand facing the truck(and road) while we
hitched. OK,  now we're hitched.  I say we need to turn him around -
I'm told to ask him to step up and  then we'll turn him.  Well, Dummy
me did!!  All my instincts told me not to do what I was doing but I
did! He bolted and I dragged behind as long as I could and had to
release him.   It wasn't a fun learning experience. 

Since this is getting long enough I'll just say I was extremely
lucky no one was hurt and pony was ok.  I'm totally to blame for not
trusting my own gut instinct and 37 yrs of horse sense! 
  
I Blame NO ONE for what transpired that day but myself!! But I have
read something that makes me feel as though I need to defend myself,
family, and pony! 
  We have been a QH family with extensive Rodeo, Horsemanship, halter
and pleasure training experience.  Driving was new to my family and I
was seeking knowledge from where ever I could find it.  My Mother
never tried to step in and say anything about my driving and or
training, because she was not familiar with the driving world.

  Mom was in the house with my kids when we hooked the pony and never
had any part in the hitching of the pony.  She was in the house until
she saw the pony running down the road.  To my knowledge my mother
never,  ever stepped in and said anything  until after that day! 
Now,  as I ran frantically down the road after the pony, I have no
idea what my mother could have said as things unfolded.  I know we
were all very distdraught over this event.  I have never heard her
say anything negative about my mentor.  She just told me what I
already knew -  I should've have known better -than to do anything
new to a horse that wasn't in a controlled enviroment.  It was never
a matter of listening to my mother over the mentor. Mom kept her
mouth shut and let me figure it out. My mother had absolutely nothing
to do with the meltdown!! 
   This pony would be driving today If I had had the confidence to
rehook him that day- in a controlled enviroment.   If that pony would
have been contained in the first place, he wouldn't have ran into
traffic and unfamiliar territory. That freaked him out even more than
the cart chasing him.  He didn't know where he was once he headed
west of my 

Re: choosing low-maintenance Fjord

2007-03-03 Thread jgayle

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Whoops!!! Fjords do not get dread Locks?,,Gunnar must not be a pure 
bred!!! His voluminous tail is in one hundred plus dread locks.  It is easy 
to get them out with that cowboy sheen so I do not worry about him in the 
muddy long winter.   Jean






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National Drive

2007-03-03 Thread mom
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In response to the post below, as of this date, there will be at least three
fjords at the National Drive--MVF Venn (my pony) and Curt Pierce and Marsha
Korose' pair, LLF Ulend and HOG Solvar.  Will be with a friend who drives a
mule, so we will surely stand out!  I know Olaf Nyby was there last year and
imagine he will be there again this year.  I am SO looking forward to it!
Sue Freivald






I was just wondering if anyone from the list has gone to or is
planning on going to the National Drive at the Kentucky Horse Park?
It sounds like great fun to be able to drive all over the Park,
participate in the clinics (I hear they have a dressage and cones
ring set up) and socialize with other driving people. It's so early
in the year that I don't know for sure if I'll be able to go (or if
either of the 2 possible driving horses - Fjord or Friesian - will be
ready!) My Friesian mare might have to go evaluations this fall and
of course, that isn't scheduled yet, but I did see on the website
that you can make reservations, and if you cancel 90 days before you
get 100% refund.

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Expo

2007-03-03 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 3/3/2007 4:41:23 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
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 I just
 got back from five days in Harrisburg PA at the Expo with Curt Pierce and
 Marsha Korose of Deep Creek Farm.  It was an exhilirating time--the breed
 demos were colorful and fun to say the least.  Joe Glick was there with his
 stallion Sivert and gelding Halnes, Curt and Marsha brought HOG Solvar and
 LLF Ulend.  Joe's son Ivan at 14, showed Sivert in hand, and Joe showed him
 under saddle.  Ulend was also shown under saddle and driving in the pair
 with Solvar, Halness demonstrated draft work with the stone boat.  With
 three of the 5 colors there it was a nice showing (brown, grey, white).
 

 Congratulations guys for another great Expo !  Having done a few 
myself, I must say that they are not easy, but your hard work is sure good for 
the breed. I like how you take not only beautiful Fjords, but Stallions as well 
!  Great representitives of our breed. I do not like to hear from people after 
events like these about fractous acting Fjords out in public. Of course, 
keeping your animal in-hand and under control is always important but leave 
the ones at home that bite or need heavy handleing IMHO.  Anyway too cool !   
You guys always pull off a class 
act ! 
   Lisa


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my .2 on hoofs

2007-03-03 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 3/3/2007 1:55:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
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 Stop shoeing and let the horse go
 barefoot - the hoof starts regaining its original shape, and eventually will
 get back to it's natural shape if you leave the shoes off long enough.  It
 takes a good year for the new healthy hoof to grow out from the coronal
 band.  It needs to be appropriately trimmed during this time.  Hoof boots
 can be put on if the horse has tenderness issues, such as when going on
 gravel and rocks, or maybe dealing with an old abcess that is growing out.
 

 I would love to stop shoeing. With 18 here, my monthly farrier bill is often 
200.00. All winter, as usual everyone was barefoot, with every 6-8 week 
trims. Now that its warming up and we have started riding ( and soon driving ) 
the 
ones heading out on the sand, rocks and gravel of Southern UT. need shoes. Not 
practicle for easy boots, I do however have a set in my Search and Rescue 
pack.for thrown shoes. We tend to drive the shoes here into flat blades 
with 
the miles put on for CDE's. Just what works here...Lisa



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Belated Thank You to MWFHC Members - Some What Long

2007-03-03 Thread Lazyvalleyranch
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Hello, 

Please accept my apologizes for the lateness of this  message.  In trying to 
finish up the final details of the meeting/seminars  and getting my house back 
in order after dumping every thing at the front door  last Sunday night, the 
time slipped away from me.   

I would  like to say THANK YOU, THANK YOU to everyone who battled the weather 
to get  to the Midwest Fjord Horse Club Winter Meeting.  You all stuck with 
us and  were so easy to please. We had a great turnout in spite of the weather, 
out  of the 60 people who signed up, 45-48 were able to make it.  Some  came 
on Friday night, but then had to turn around and go home on Saturday due to  
the possibility of not being able to get back into their driveways and care for 
 their animals.  We missed each and everyone of you.  
 
The get together on Friday night was wonderful, the food was good  and 
everyone sat around and visited.  Saturday morning we started a  little late 
with 
our English Saddle fitting lecture give by LuAnne Reaumes from  the Schleese 
Saddle Company.  LuAnne covered a lot of information on  the structure of the 
horse, the importance of having a good fitting saddle  and the issues that can 
come up if your saddle does not fit.  The feedback  from everyone I spoke to or 
who privately e-mailed me was excellent  and they appreciated the time she 
took to answer everyone's questions.   LuAnne even saved the day when the 
Western 
Saddle Fitting lady was unable to  make it due to the weather.  She went off 
with those people who had  questions and worked with them.  I did not know at 
the time but Schleese  Saddle Company also makes Western Saddles.  Thank you 
to Sophie Fiedler,  Pat Holland and Phil Odden for participating in the English 
portion and to Kay   Jim Barnhart for providing the horse for the Western 
portion of the  lecture. 
 
Then after lunch Rich Hotovy and Bob Gudknecht gave a harness fitting  
lecture for both Breast Collar and Draft harness.  First, Rich  went through 
some of 
the terminology for harness, then they fit the Breast  Collar harness to the 
horse, then the horse/harness to a cart and then  provided a short driving 
demo.  Next came fitting a team with  Draft harness and demonstrating how to 
hitch a team to a wagon and then  took the team for a short drive around the 
arena.  Thank you to Jeff  and Lisa Lovett for providing the horses used in 
demos.  
Also thank  you to Mike Sadlon, Tyler Schlickman and Phil Odden for their 
assistance  out in the arena proving help where ever needed.  
 
People then went back to the hotel to relax while some of us stayed back to  
get the smaller arena prepared for the Dinner/Meeting/Auction and Dance.   The 
caterers did a fantastic job with the food, the dessert was to die  for.  
Congratulations to all who won the Fjord center pieces, it paid to  sit in the 
right chair :)  Syl and Anne Weyker put the Auction together  this year and did 
a wonderful job, they helped to raise $2,748 dollars for the  club.  THANKS 
for a job well done!!  There were many great items  to bid on and no one went 
home a loser.  Rich Hotovy did a fine job as the  Auctioneer.  Our President, 
Chuck Kelly led the meeting, took care of  business and then we got on to more 
fun.  The band did a great job and some  of us hung on and danced until 11:30 
pm.  Therine and Bob Gudknecht sure  can cut a rug!  By the time we left the 
arena the weather was a bit  better and the roads were not as icy.  
 
Sunday morning started a little slow, Ben Eyster, our Clinician for the day  
called at 6:00 am and canceled, but by 9:00 am called back and said the roads  
were not as bad and did we still want him to come.  We hurried around and  
asked people if they were still interested and the answer was YES!!!  So  when 
he arrived we got things started.  Ben's clinics are for starting the  young 
horse, working with problem horses and helping people work with their  horse, 
first on the ground and then in the saddle.  I consider what he  does magic, 
but 
it is much more than that.  Ben put on a great clinic and  provided us with a 
lot of info to process.  Many of the people there are  interested in getting 
together and working with Ben at another time.  
 
It was then time to say goodbye until July when the Club will hold it's  
annual horse show in Blue Earth, Minnesota.  Pat Holland, Show Chairperson,  
promises another great show  I for one am looking forward to this  years 
show 
as I have final worked up enough nerve to try and show.  I have  been a horse 
show mom most of my life and as a little girl have always dreamed  of showing, 
but did not have the nerve.  This show and the great people who  come to this 
show have given me the courage to try.  I have observed the  last few years of 
coming that everyone is encouraging and supportive  to anyone who is showing. 
 I have seen people running around at the last  minute to get someone 

Wireless PA Systems

2007-03-03 Thread fjords
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I am currently researching wireless PA systems with headset or lapel
microphones for hands free use.  I need 2 systems since we will have 2
clinicians working at a time in an indoor arena - one at each end of the
arena.  The speakers will be set in front of the grandstand so people in the
respective clinic can hear what the clinician is saying that is in front of
them and not the other clinician at the other end of the arena.  Does that
make sense?

I've found a lot of them on the internet but would prefer to hear from
people with experience using them.  If anyone has a recommendation I'd love
to hear about it!  

You can email me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks in advance!

Taffy Mercer
Kennewick, WA

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