Re: Sonny

1999-10-02 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Knutsen Fjord Farm wrote:
 
 This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi List -
 
 I'm writing to ask for your supportive thought and good wishes.  Our
 sweet weanling colt, Rustenson, has pneumonia.  I guess the combined
 stresses of compromised immune system from weaning, trailering to Libby,
 the over-stimulation of the show, and the heavy dust there and here at
 our farm were too much for his little healthy bod.  We're giving him
 10ccs of Penn. twice daily, and the vet says prognosis is very good.
 I'm still really concerned, though, even forgot my riding lesson this
 AM.  Writing to the list feels like sharing my worries with good
 friends, so thanks for being there. - Peg
Hi Peg!  Just received your message about your little guy.  I haven't
been on the list for a few days and am now just getting caught up.  Many
prayers from us here in S. Florida for his quick recovery.  Yes, I know
how you feel about sharing with the list.  I did the same thing when we
were faced with Floyd and I was so scared.  So many of you responded and
I truly believe that is why we were spared.  It was a great comfort to
know so many people were sending their best wishes and prayers for us. I
will be looking for an update from you on your little one
Carolyn



Libby Video

1999-09-26 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Everyone!  Was wondering if any of you who went to Libby might
have a video they would be willing to share with me?  I would send you a
blank tape, along with a postage-paid return mailer for same.  It would
be very much appreciated, since I was unable to attend this year.  Still
in search for my very first Fjord, I am trying to learn all that I can!
Best wishes from Carolyn in S. Florida...where it is STILL rainy and
soggy.  Everything is under water; we are doing nothing but road-riding
and taking care of many hooves.  September has been bad, weather-wise. 
Can't believe last Spring we had wildfires because of the extreme
dryness!  Be careful what you wish for!  Have a great week!



Re: Hurricane Floyd

1999-09-25 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  I'm curious - do you keep the horses in the barn when hurricanes are coming?
  If not, where's the safest place for them?
 
 We in Western Mass. received a LOT of wind and rain from Floyd.
 Norma noted that through most of it, all 14 fjords were stadning out
 calmly trying to get that one more bite of green grass before they
 starve. During the whole storm, they would take little breaks and go
 into the three-sided shelters in each pasture, but the majority of
 time they were outside by choice.
 
 ---
 William M. Coli
 Extension Educator/ Statewide IPM Coordinator
 Dept. of Entomology
 Agricultural Engineering Bldg.
 UMass
 Amherst  MA  01003
 Phone: 413-545-1051
 Fax: 413-545-5858
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Always drink upstream from the herd. From: A Cowboy's Guide to Life, by 
 T.B. Bender
Hello from Carolyn in S. Florida.  It is our belief that the safest
place for the horses during a hurricane is in open pasture, opposed to
in a barn which may be destoyed along with the horses in them with no
place to escape.  However, for those who were involved with rescue 
after Andrew in '92, you will get conflicting opinions.  Many horses
were lost because of electrocution due to downed live power lines  and
displacement because of the severity of that storm..So it is a Catch 22.
You do what you feel is best, depending on your location and pasture
size, power lines, number of trees on your property, etc.  But it is
still a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.  With Floyd, we
all just said a lot of prayers and trusted that our critters would take
care of each other the best that they could...and they did..all huddled
together, sort of protecting each other..even the ones that crab on each
other on a daily basis!  Thank God, we were spared!
Carolyn



Hurricane Floyd

1999-09-19 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi List!  I have been trying to answer all of you who e-mailed me
privately re: Floyd... with my heartfelt thanks and appreciation for all
of your thoughts and prayers!  It really did work, as we escaped with
very little of his wrath.  This was such a very scary, stressful time;
not knowing what was going to happen and if we would ever see our horses
again.  The thought of that was totally overwhelming and we all felt so
totally out of control.  This has taught me, I believe, some very
valuable lessons which I wanted to share with all of you..who were there
for me.  My best friend, who also owns the barn where I board my horses,
is a native Floridian and has seen what horses do during a hurricane. 
They will band together in a tight herd..with the stronger and the ones
that have gone thru this before...herding the smaller and weaker into
the center.  I asked, how about the ones that snip and bite at each
other on on daily basis?  Doesn't matter...they are one...protecting
each other. This really got me to thinking...animals seem to take care
of each other...why can't us humans do the same?  Wy does it take a near
disaster to wake me up to this??? We were one of the last to board up
our house..but, yet all our neighbors were there to help out.  I am
looking at things a lot differently right now..I don't want to
forget..this was a wake-up call!  The little petty things that used to
get to me seem sort of un-important right now.  I hope all of you can
benefit from what I am trying to say.  I dont even own a Fjord
(yet)...but, yet, you were the first ones I thought of for support
during this most difficult time.  Thanks to you all for being there and
for your prayers.  It is much appreciated by all of usDaisy, Missy,
Belle, Tuffy, Merlin, Blaze, Buckwheat, Star, VeeJay, Red, Diva, Roxie,
Pumpkin, Chief, Dakota, James and all their moms/dads!!!



Re: safety for Carolyn

1999-09-19 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jean Gayle wrote:
 
 This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So glad to hear the good news Carolyn and was hoping you got through okay.
 Can not imagine the agony of the wait for something you have no control
 over.  We do have some strong storms here, not yet over 90 mph that I know
 of, but again the sense of dread for the animals.
 
 Jean Gayle
 Aberdeen, WA
 [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter
 Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
 http://www.techline.com/~jgayle

Hi Jean!  Yes, we were spared...I truly believe because of all the
thoughts and prayers that you all sent my way.  I was very scared..and
the thoughts that run thru your mind, knowing that you may never see
your horse again is so overwhelming.  My Daisy has no fur left on her
face because I think I have kissed her a million times in the last 3
days!!! It taught me many lessons - most importantly, not taking
anything or anyone for granted ever again.  Life is so fragile..maybe
this is His way of showing and teaching us that.  Animals have a
miraculous way of protecting and taking care of each other...I think us
humans could learn a very valuable lesson from them.  I am grateful for
your concerns for us at a most difficult time.
My best,
Carolyn



Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #190

1999-09-18 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I can't imagine what it must be like to have a storm coming and be afraid for
 your horses.  If positive energy can help, I am sending my bit.   Gail in
 Albuquerque
Thanks Gail, your positive energy really did work!  I appreciate your
thoughts and prayers for all of us down here.  As you probably know,
S.Florida escaped the wrath of Floyd with that northerly turn at the
last minute.  It was pretty scary - I never want to go thru that again.
We only had some rain and wind gusts of 60 mph...but all the horses were
fine and ready to have their breakfast the next morning!!!  Being herd
animals, they take pretty good care of and protect each other.  Too bad
humans don't do the same!!!  I am grateful for you writing back to me.
It helped get me thru a very bad time.  Hope to talk to you soon!
Carolyn



Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #190

1999-09-18 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ursula Jensen wrote:
 
 This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Hi List!  I'm sure most of you are aware of the major hurricane Floyd
  which is predicted to be a major hit on Florida (at least at this point
  in time).  It doesn't look good.
 -
 Hi Carolyn...I can't even imagine how scary that isour prayers are
 definitely with you. Take care and the best of luckI will now listen
 extra carefully to the weather reports from the States.
 
 Welcome back Saskiago with your heart. (if you can afford it)
 ---
  The veterinarian doing the pulse and respiration checks said heavily
  muscled horses take longer to cool down. He held her back for a 20 minute
  rest mid-trail, which accounted for most of the loss in score.
 -
 Barbara, remember that Fjords are cold-bloods and keep their heat longer to
 warm their organs, this is definitely a consideration when doing events like
 that. We have a mare in our 4-in-hand- who does not like to sweat (maybe a
 girl thing) but she is always hard to cool after a marathon and is always
 our first consideration at PR stops. She is a more drafty type compared to
 Sambar, Stein and Sakama who sweat profusely after the first km and have no
 problem ridding themselves of excess heat. Right now our horses are starting
 to get their winter fur already and with another marathon this weekend , we
 even considered a partial clip but decided against it with winter so close.
 We will just do what we can. Our four are in great shape for what we are
 able to do in a short season and we will just have to go with that.
 
 Like Nancy, our thoughts were in Libby this weekend. Our nightly phone calls
 from Aaren and our students kept us abreast of how the show went. The new
 star of the show was Beth Beimer who came away with the versatility award
 and racked up many 1st place standings.way to go girl.
 We were thrilled that so many of our driving students from the summer came
 away with 1st and 2nd place ribbons. Beth Beimer, Woody Hoopes, Kathy
 Rollins and Don Torgenrud...ya done did us proud and I'm looking forward
 to the Brag Alerts this weekwe'll give you a day or two to unload and
 rest up.
 
 We, on the other hand , are  packing the trailer for the last time this year
 to head for the Victoria Horse Trials on Thurs. This is a CDE that has
 become quite popular here on the west coast and attracts many very competent
 drivers in the Pacific North West. The four-in-hand are primed and ready to
 gowe will probably be the only ones driving a four but that's ok...it
 will show the Fjords in grand style. Kathy and Errol Koshman will also
 compete this year and Sue Billings usually drives her Fjord Tekla a good
 representation of Fjords. With any luck we will get Anton hooked on the
 sport in years to come...
 Have a nice week everyone.
 Ursula
Hi Ursula!  Well, we made it thru Floyed with no more than 60 MPH wind
gusts.  Thank God for that last mintue turn to the north!  It was
getting pretty scary here for awhile.  All horses made it thru fine;
however, I am still feeling nuclear meltdown!  Thanks so much for your
thoughts for us, it is greatly appreciated.  Now I want to think about
getting my first Fjord and to coming to see you for a driving weeked
with Laurie (Pittman)!  Talk to you soon!
Carolyn



Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #190

1999-09-18 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheryl Beillard wrote:
 
 This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Oh Carolyn .. what an ordeal!  We will all be thinking of you and your
 fjords with concern I'm sure -- have to say, never having experienced a
 hurricane up here, in Ontario, (we have ice storms)  I have tended to focus
 on the human tragedy (my normal tendency is to put animals first! don't know
 why this dimension never hit me before?) and your message really hit home.
 What is a hurricane collar?  What can you do to prepare the barn, etc. and
 what dread you must feel as you wait for it.   Please let us know you and
 the herd are all fine.
Hi Cheryl!  Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you and let you
know how much I appreciate your thoughts and prayers for us during the
Floyd thing.  Well, somebody was listening because we escaped with only
light rains and some gusty winds!  We were very lucky for that northward
turn at the very last minute.  We battened down the barn as much as we
could, brought in all jumps, ground poles, buckets...anything that could
become flying missles in 150 MPH winds.  Our 18 horses had hurricane
collars (white, plastic-like things that you hang around their neck with
a buckle).  You can write on it with permanent marker...name, address,
phone #, Vet #...as much as you can fit!).  We also put our SS #'s and
phone numbers on their hooves with nail polish as well as spray painted
their bodies with the name of our barn, phone numbers, etc.  It was
quite a sight.  They all looked like walking billboard advertisements! 
I can laugh now, but it was not so funny at the time.  I was scared to
death and so afraid for all of them.  I am still going thru somewhat of
a nuclear meltdown.  This taught me that we must not take things for
granted...and that there is great power in prayer and our friends who
are there for us in times of need.  Thank you again for being there!
Carolyn



Re: Can't I go away for a couple days?

1999-09-17 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve McIlree wrote:
 
 This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I just got back from a wonderful visit to Libby and a leisurely trip
  back thru the scenic state of Montana, Yellowstone Park, and the
  beautiful Bighorn mountains. And what do I find? You kids have been
  talking about ducks and dogs and being mean to new kids. Can't I go
  away for a couple days and trust you to play by yourselves?
 
  Seriously, the discussion had gotten off-topic, but only for a short
  time. The new kid had been subscribed for less than 24 hours when
  he started criticizing. Was that appropriate? Maybe, since that short
  time had been entirely filled with dog discussion. However according
  to the rules of netiquette it is entirely improper for a newbie to
  contribute to, let alone criticize an online group for at least a
  week. Who's right? I won't make a call on this one, but I'm happy to
  say that Gerry has rejoined us and I hope he will find that the
  valuable information exchanged on the list far outweighs the
  off-topic chat.
 
  As for splitting to a serious and a social list, I don't believe the
  size of the list yet warrants that. I personally am very interested
  in the serious discussions about evaluations, breeding and where
  the North American Fjord breed is headed in the future. However, I
  started this list to be a virtual kitchen table for socializing about
  Fjord related topics, and I would miss the warmth of what has
  developed in the year and a half since.
 
  I'll have more on Libby and some serious topics I've been thinking
  about later. Glad to be off the road and back online.
 
  Steve McIlree
  Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List
Dear Steve:
Well, your post made me laugh, probably for the first time this week
since the stress-out with Floyd!  Thanks for being there!
Carolyn



Re: safety for Carolyn

1999-09-15 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bushnell's wrote:
 
 This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 We've repeatedly tried to e-mail Carolyn privately but it always returns
 and we did want to add our best regards for her safety! (I always seem to
 have trouble discerning ones from L's in an e-mail address)
 
 
 Hi Carolyn,
 
 we did pray for you last night and we're thinking of you and your family
 and animals today, hoping that all's well! The Lord Bless you all and spare
 your farm!
 
 be sure and tell the List how it goes! we're all anxious to hear I'm sure,
 Ruthie and Gene Bushnell, NW MT
 
 
 
 
Dear Ruthie  Gene:
I appreciate and am grateful for all your thoughts and prayers for all
of us thru Hurricane Floyd.  We miraculously escaped it's wrath due to a
last minute shift to a more northerly direction.  All we experienced was
some strong wind gusts and rain.  All of our horses were ID'd with spray
paint, hurricane collars and our SS #'s on their hooves with nail
polish!  It was very hard and heartbreaking to put them all out to
pasture yesterday afternoon, not knowing what was going to happen as we
progressed into evening and the worst weather yet to come.  Well, I
guess there must be someone who was listening to all our
prayers...because they were answered.  All of our critters were fine -
all 18 of them!  I will never take any of them for granted again.  My
own two got lots of hugs, kisses and treats today!!! Thank you so much
for thinking of me during this very scary time.  I am now going to do
the same for the folks up in the Carolina's where Floyd is now headed.
XOXOXO  Carolyn



Hurricane Floyd

1999-09-12 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi List!  I'm sure most of you are aware of the major hurricane Floyd
which is predicted to be a major hit on Florida (at least at this point
in time).  It doesn't look good.  We are calling in all the troops
tomorrow to get our barn and 18 horses secured as much as we possibly
can...all things that could be flying debris missles and tagging
horses with hurricane collars.  Thankfully, most of them have microchips
for identification.  3 of our horses have survived major hurricanes and
we know they will take care of each other as best as possible.  I am
asking all of you for your thoughts and MAJOR prayers for us and our
beloved horses at this time.  I am not one to freak out very easily
(hello, I have a teenage daughter!)...but this is not looking very
positive right now.  You sort of feel out of control.  I thought of you
guys and knew you would be there for me in your hearts if nothing else.
Thanks for listening and your prayers and I will let you know how we and
our sweeet little fur faces fare!  Love, Carolyn (in S. Florida)
andDaisy, Missy, Merlin, Tuffy, Belle,Dakota, VeeJay, Star, Roxie,
James, Pumpkin, Chief, Blaze, Diva, Red and Buckwheat.



Tennessee Walker Bridles

1999-09-06 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi List!  My riding buddy just recently acquired a Tennessee Walker (oh,
well!)...do any of you know where she can get a T.W. bridle?  She thinks
there is a place in TN, but does not know the name.  Any help would be
appreciated and thank you!
Carolyn



Individual vs. Digest

1999-08-15 Thread Carolyn Dumong
I think I am receiving individual messages, since I never requested
Digest format.  Tell me, what is the difference!  I am really enjoying
the List, even tho I do not yet own a Fjord!  I have gathered so much
info and hopefully, I will be able to have a Fjord face in my very near
future!  I am thinking of going to Libby next year (unfortunately, I
cannot make it this year).  Do you feel that is the best show for
meeting most of the breeders and Fjord owners?  Since I am located in S.
Florida with not many Fjord people around, I thought that would be my
best bet..what do you think?  Thanks,
Carolyn



Replying to Messages

1999-08-01 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At the risk of sounding Stupid...for us newcomers..how exactly do we
respond to a message without including little or none of the original
message?  This just does not come easy to some of us who are new to this
internet stuff! Especially when nobody has clued us in!  So tell me!  I
know I receive the same message sometimes 2,3,4 times.  If I haven't
signed on for a couple of days, there are sometimes 100+ messages (alot
duplicates), even tho I delete as I go.  
Another subjectfor those of you going to Libby...is anyone going to
be videotaping highlights of the show or are there videos that will be
available.  I presented this question a couple of weeks ago, but did not
receive any response.  Thanks for your help.
Carolyn



Re: pine tree sap removal...

1999-07-28 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ingrid Ivic wrote:
 
 This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  but it has been pine sap..very dark brown sticky, tarry substance
  that she gets on her coat...next to impossible to get off short of
  cutting it off. Do you have pine trees on your property?
  Carolyn
 
   Hi Carolyn,
 You don't have to cut any of your fjord's coat off to remove the
 pine tar. I know all about this sticky mess on our fjords coats, because
 about an acre of our turnout area is studded with pines. Our farm used
 to be a tree nursery. The pines give them shade and keep some of the
 bugs away, but our little darlings love to rub against the trees and get
 sappy.
 Here's what you do...cover the tarry areas with a good bit of
 vaseline and wait awhile (about an hour or so in warm weather), wipe the
 resulting goo away, then wash it all off with a mild shampoo. The
 combination of vaseline and their body heat sort of melts the stuff
 off...it becomes liquified enough to scrape away. Yeah, they can be a
 little bit greasy afterwards (just shampoo a second time), but its
 better than the tar!
Thanks for the tip on the pine sap removal!  No more chunks out of
Daisy's coat!



Re: A mystery

1999-07-27 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Laurie Pittman wrote:
 
 This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
I have a mystery here folks, maybe some of you can help. Tor has been
 coming in from the pasture lately with his nose covered in something
 black and tacky feeling. It is also on the guard hairs under his jaw
 (looks like the hair has been coated with mascara). I'm also seeing it
 on the hair above his hooves and his feet look like they have hoof black
 on them. With a little work it will wash off. I've walked the field
 looking for something that might have been thrown into the pasture, but
 found nothing. Tor has been in this field for almost 5 years and I've
 had other horses in this field for more than 15 years and I've never
 seen this before. Until today Copper was not showing any sign of this
 black stuff, but this morning I found it on him too, although not near
 as much. If I hadn't been looking for it I don't think I would have
 noticed it. He is kept in a different section of this field.
 
There was no sign of this stuff while Tor was being kept in the diet
 pen. It didn't start showing up until he started getting time on the
 pasture again. If it's a plant growing in the field (I'm pretty sure it
 is), I have no idea which one. I've been taking different plants and
 rubbing them on my hands, but no black stuff. I haven't noticed any on
 my shoes or pants after walking the field either. There are a couple of
 alders in the field that I've never seen them bother, and a wild rose
 bush that Tor sometimes uses to scratch on. Anyone have any ideas?
 
On another note, I've noticed that Tor is wearing down the front of
 his two upper middle teeth. I'm assuming that this is from micro
 managing his diet pen. What can I do about this! I can't just let him
 have the pasture all the time.
 
Any thoughts on any either of these problems would really be
 appreciated. Thanks.
 
 Laurie in NW Washington
Laurie, I have had a similar thing happen here in Florida with
Daisy..but it has been pine sap..very dark brown sticky, tarry substance
that she gets on her coat...next to impossible to get off short of
cutting it off. Do you have pine trees on your property?
Carolyn



Libby Videos

1999-07-23 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Everyone!  Since I will not be able to attend Libby this year, I
was wondering if there are videos available, or if not, if anyone will
be video-taping highlights of the show that they would be willing to
copy and share with me???  Thanks to all of you for all of the info you
have shared since I joined the list a very short time ago!
Carolyn



Re: Need Help Finding a Fjord

1999-07-06 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi everyone,
 I am fairly new to the mailing list and I really enjoy reading all of the
 input and advice everyone has to offer.  It's such a help. I have been riding
 for 24 years and have owned horses most of that time.  I currently have a
 horse which I enjoy riding on trails and for just pleasure.  Over the past
 few months I have learned a lot about Fjords and have ridden them a couple of
 times and have completely fallen in love with this breed.  I was at Equitana
 in June and visited the wonderful and organized booth that so many of you
 helped to put together and man while the event was taking place.  Well done.
 I think your booth was one of the very best  I am now serious about
 purchasing a Fjord and would like some help in locating one.  I live in
 Indiana.  I would really appreciate any help in locating a Fjord for sale.
 Thanks again for all the great help!!!  Please feel free to respond to my
 email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Take care...Tracy :o)
Tracy, you wrote my story..however, I have not had the pleasure of ever
riding a Fjord!  Keep me in mind in Southern Florida, everyone!  Need to
have one of these little guys!!  Carolyn.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #100

1999-07-05 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 In a message dated 7/5/99 2:57:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
  We are looking for ideas and input.  We are thinking of starting up a
  boarding facility because there is a need for this in our area.  What we
  would like to hear are any ideas or opinions regarding horse boarding
  facilities.  If you board, what do you like or dislike about where you
  board?  Do you have a contract with your facility?  What does your board
  include?
   
 I have boarded and trained outside horses for quite a few years.  I have
 learned a lot - mostly the hard way!  Here are some suggestions:
 
 Only offer full care.  Partial care gets to be a real ROYAL PAIN!  I have
 tried to offer partial care in the past and it is more trouble than it's
 worth.  I like to have the stalls cleaned in my barn early in the morning
 everyday so that if someone 'stops by', the barn is clean and tidy.  With
 partial care, invariably someone has a reason why they couldn't come to clean
 their stall.  That means that sometime during the day, you have to interrupt
 your schedule to clean that stall.  I charged $2 extra each time I had to do
 their stall, but it was irritating.
 
 Also with partial care, one needs a lot of extra room to store their hay and
 grain to keep it separate.  Then invariably, they run out of feed, even
 though they have been reminded.  You end up feeding yours and having to keep
 track of that.  When they finally do bring feed, it often is not of the same
 quality.
 
 By offering only full care, I also have control of the quality and amount
 each horse is fed and know that their nutritional needs are being properly
 met.  Also, the horses are all fed at the same time.  It is quite upsetting
 for the horses to have someone coming to feed one or two horses at different
 times.
 
 A written contract is a MUST.  You can lay all of the requirements in front
 of the folks, up front and in black and white.  I require each horse to
 comply with our schedule for innoculations so that we don't get a barnfull of
 sick horses.  We have horses that travel to shows, poker rides, etc., where
 they are exposed to large numbers of horses so I need to make sure everyone
 has current shots.  In our area we give 4-way, rhino, Potomac Fever, and
 nasal strangles.  The horses that travel get flu/rhino every 90 days.  The
 other shots are annual.  We also worm every 2 months.  I do all of the shots
 and worming myself and charge the boarders only the cost of the drugs.  It
 saves them money and I KNOW it has been done when it should be.
 
 Another clause in my contract states that dogs are not welcome to come poop
 in my yard instead of yours!  There is nothing more irritating to have dogs
 jumping on people's cars, scratching the paint, or fighting with each other.
 
 Another clause states that there will be NO UNATTENDED CHILDREN.  This is not
 a day care center where Mommy can come and play whilst Johnny is allowed to
 wander around and get himself into trouble.
 
 You also must be very specific about when board is due!  I took my contracts
 to a lawyer to have him look them over and make recommendations.  I have a
 clause that says boarding bills are due on the first of the month.  If it is
 not paid by then, they will be charged 2% per day on the unpaid balance.  He
 raised his eyebrows at that!  I said, Do I make myself clear that it had
 better be paid on time?!  He added a blank space beside that paragraph for
 them to initial in case it should ever go to court.  That way they couldn't
 say they didn't read the contract carefully before signing.
 
 Insurance is another issue that must be considered carefully.  One can go
 insurance broke when it comes to horses!  Our state has an 'inherant risk'
 law which says that if you are on this property you are considered a
 participant and must assume your own liability.  A sign stating such must be
 visibly displayed.  It has been tested in court and has stood up so far.
 
 Hope this helps you in making your decisions.  These are some of the key
 issues that have been of importance in my business.
 
 Gayle Ware
 Field of Dreams
 Eugene, OR
Altho I do not have my own boarding facility, I board my horse and my
daughter's horse at my best friend's barn (for the past 4 yrs.).  All I
can say is AMEN to Gayle's comments.  My friend has been thru the same
things...partial boarding, babysitting service for kids, dogs, late
payments.  Disaster!!!  We have a full board deal for everyone...horses
fed and stalls done a on set schedule EVERY day!  I also have the
confidence that if my horses are sick or get a boo-boo, she will take
care of it for me until I can get on the scene, and that is only if it
is something major!!!  That means alot to me, since I work full-time. 
One other comment...we have alot of kids doing lessons and summer
camp

Re: New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jean Ernest wrote:
 
 This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi Carolyln, welcome to the list!
 
 I do mostly trail riding and having four fjords for the one of me, am
 afraid that I don't ride my two oldsters much (22 and 24)  But they are
 perfectly happy to lounge about, eat and socialize with the others.
 
 I would say Fjords are happiest when they are EATING!  but of course we
 can't let them do that as much as they would like..They are happy just to
 schmooze with you, get petted and groomed.  I would say your pleasure
 riding activiities would suit them just fine.
 
 I think the one thing Fjords dislike most is ARENA work, boring, repetitive
 going around in circles.  Get them out on the trail, do intersting things
 with them like cavaletti if you have to do much arena riding, etc.  Amuse
 them with Clicker training, retrieving things (see Steve Mcilree's page on
 the Fjord Mailing List Web page:
 http://members.home.net/smcilree/Steve.htm
 
 While you may be only touching the tip ot the iceberg with the trail
 riding (as I am sure I'm doing..not developing the full potential of my
 fjords, etc.) I wouldn't feel too guilty If that's all you do with your
 Fjord.  Enjoy them, that's the main thing.
 
 Just my $.02 worth
 
 Jean in HOT Fairbanks, Alaska, upper 80's today, but They're delivering hay
 today!
 
  I do strictly pleasure riding and camping with horses and
 friends from the barn where I board my 12 year old Palomino, Daisy (my
 best friend and love of my life!)  From the information I have gathered,
 the Fjord is happiest when working and if pleasure riding is the only
 interest, you are only touching the tip of the iceberg.
 
 Jean Ernest
 Fairbanks, Alaska
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Jean!  Thanks for your feedback, especially the comment about not
feeling guilty if all I wanted to do is trail ride, camp with my Fjord!
Yes, I agree, arena riding is totally BORING!!!  I probably haven't
ridden in the arena for 2 years!  I would much rather be out discovering
a new trail or just grazing along the way!!!  Since we had a long dry
spell down here and our pasture was virtually dried up, I loved taking
my Daisy out to just let her eat anything GREEN in sight!  Of course,
during the last month, we have had 13 inches of rain, so goes the old
adage..Be careful what you pray for!!! Mud City!  I will continue to
research...I must have one of these little guys for sure!  Is there a
major show which you all attend?  Looking forward to corresponding with
you...Carolyn.



New Fjord Fan

1999-07-03 Thread Carolyn Dumong
This message is from: Carolyn Dumong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Everyone!  Just subscribed to the mailing list a few days ago and
would appreciate your input!  I was first introduced to this beautiful
breed at Equitana in June.  I never knew they existed, and I fell in
love!  I have several questions, which I am sure you can answer...I
picked up some general info from the booth, other than that, I am
totally green!  I have only been riding for 4 years (and am not a
youngster!).  I do strictly pleasure riding and camping with horses and
friends from the barn where I board my 12 year old Palomino, Daisy (my
best friend and love of my life!)  From the information I have gathered,
the Fjord is happiest when working and if pleasure riding is the only
interest, you are only touching the tip of the iceberg.  I can
honestly say I would probably never do any driving or pulling logs,
although I am considering dressage seriously in the near future. Since I
live in southern Florida, which is hot and humid most of the year,I
would like to know if they fare well in this type of climate?  It seems
like most of the breeders are in northern states.  Do any of you ride
strictly for pleasure. i.e. trail riding?  Although this is all I have
thought about since returning from Equitana, I certainly would not want
to do injustice to a magnificent animal that might require more than my
capabilities/riding interests.  Any information you could provide me
regarding your Fjords would be very much appreciated!