Fjord horses in New Zealand?
This message is from: Sofia Jagbrant *Dear international fjord horse friends,* I'm wondering if someone of you are from New Zealand, or could forward me a contact from there? I am currently doing an article about Fjordhorses in Australia since I'm studying in Melbourne during one semester. I am going to New Zealand as well, and would therefore, if possible like to include this in my article or do a separate one. It is really interesting to find fjord horses so far away from my native Scandinavia and I'm sure plenty of people in both Sweden and Norway would like to read more about it. My email is: sofia...@gmail.com and it is the best way to contact me. Thanks in advance and good luck with your fjords! Regards Sofia -- Sofia Jagbrant +46739895789 "Smile and the world will smile with you" Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Christmas card
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry the link did not work. Here it comes again: http://www.angelfire.com/super2/belizzi_buz/julkort_english.bmp /Sofia - Original Message ----- From: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:58 AM Subject: Christmas card > This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello, > I want to wish everybody on the list a Merry Christmas and a happy new (fjord) > year, with my own-made Christmas card. > > /Sofia
Christmas card
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I want to wish everybody on the list a Merry Christmas and a happy new (fjord) year, with my own-made Christmas card. /Sofia
Re: Introduction
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Lisa, Welcome to the list! Your fjord looks cute, but I hope you give her a real fjordmane, when she comes. She will look any better with that, and look like a real fjord :-) I hope you will enjoy the list, as much I do. /Sofia ----- --- Sofia Jagbrant Mariannelunds gård 570 33 Mariannelund Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Introduction > This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > > I am new here. I live in Connecticut. I am waiting for my Fjord to get > here. She is a PMU mare. She has been bred to a Fjord stallion. You can > see her at http://theanimalifarm.com/73.html . I have several minis and I > drive a POA pony. I have always wanted a Fjord. I am planning to start > with clicker training to get her to trust me. She has had no training. Her > name is Fiona. > > Lisa Wiley > Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs > Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose > http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ > http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #284
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The fjordhorse list is great! I'm glad that you liked you card Janice, so did Lori and the other who have seen them too. I got some of them from the man in chair, in our association, and I think they are more useful in some other fjordfriends home, then in by desk :-) /Sofia - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #284 > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I got such a nice surprise today in the mail!! Sofia from Sweden sent me > some beautiful postcards and a nice note. Sofia spent the summer with Lori > Albrough, lucky girl. Well, I guess they were both lucky, because Lori loved > Sofia > and her way with horses. > > Thank you Sofia. > > Isn't it wonderful , when you can meet someone on the Fjord list, and make a > new friend half a world away. > > I also have 2 Finnish girls as penpals that wrote me after we purchased > Saethersblakken. The girls knew him or his offspring and we started > corresponding. > Now I get weekly messages from these girls and we talk about all kinds of > things. Sometimes I help correct their English homework. They say that > writing > in English has really helped them in class. Riikka and Marjo are lovely 15 > year old girls and I look forward to their letters. > > And of course, Sini, who served as our interpreter during the purchase of > Blakken has remained a dear friend. We stay in touch and discuss everything > from > horse behavior to politics via email.. > > > What an interesting turn my life has taken since buying my first Fjord. > > > > Janice in Nebraska > > ps Thanks Steve, for making this list possible.
Sorry for the last email
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi list, The last email was meant privatly to Pat. Sorry for that. Sofia
Re: Going shopping
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Pat, Have you ever been in Sweden? We have a lot of nice and high quality fjordhorses here too. A woman in the same area as I, has a long experince of fjordhorses, and she is also a judge of fjords and many other breeds. She has also been the secretary in the Swedish fjordhorseassociation. I know her well, and trust her, so if you have time to go here too, I'm sure we can find some high quality filles for you. We have a lot of conections with high quality breeders, and fjordhorsepeople. It would be fun to meet you again, last time I was not so social, becouse I became really ill, on the Fingerlakes. Sinceraly, Sofia Jagbrant - Original Message - From: "Pat Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fjord-digestt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:13 AM Subject: Going shopping > This message is from: "Pat Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > In February I'm going to Denmark and Germany looking for young mares. I will > be looking for high quality yearling fillies with new blood lines. > If anyone is interested in me finding them a young horse please contact me > direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or check my web site at www.patwolfefjords.com > Pat
Re: Norway?
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If somebody is tired on the evaluation, but wanna go to Norway and see something "fjordy", I can suggest the Nordic championship for fjordhorses. See the best rider and driver from Norway, Sweden and Denmark fighting about the ribbons. The championship takes place in Oslo the 30th of June to the 3 of July 2005. Well, and if somebody are tired on Norway, but not on evaluations you can allway go to our stallion evaluation in Sweden who is in september. Questions? Contact me for more information. Sofia
About bits
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here in Sweden we have got new knowledge about bits, and how big a bit should be. I'm not a expert of this area, but I will try to explain. We have got a couple of good vets who specialize on the horse mouth and the bits influance of the mouth. We have one really good horse-dentist who is known allover our country. He has just written a book about the big subject after 20 years of researching, and says that the old knowledge, who says that you should have one cm from both sides of the bit outside the mouth, is totally wrong. A shorter bit does that the bit is keeping on that's place, down in the mouth, and keeping it straight. As higher the bit is in the mouth as higher is the pressure. And this pressure is killing the mouth tissues, it does'nt take a day, but over 70 % of all his patients have got something wrong in the mouth becouse of the bit. A bit take absolutly smallest place in the mouth if it is short, and of that reason will be straight in the mouth. I have a 10,5 cm bit on my normal fjord, and that fits him well. My friend have a Newforest pony, and he could have a 9,5 cm bit. That's not how big body t! he horse has, who decide what size on the bit it should have, it's the horse mouth and the jaw. Well, I hope you understood a little of my maybe, not to perfect explainations. Happy fall! Sofia
About bits
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here in Sweden we have got new knowledge about bits, and how big a bit should be. I'm not a expert of this area, but I will try to explain. We have got a couple of good vets who specialize on the horse mouth and the bits influance of the mouth. We have one really good horse-dentist who is known allover our country. He has just written a book about the big subject after 20 years of researching, and says that the old knowledge, who says that you should have one cm from both sides of the bit outside the mouth, is totally wrong. A shorter bit does that the bit is keeping on that's place, down in the mouth, and keeping it straight. As higher the bit is in the mouth as higher is the pressure. And this pressure is killing the mouth tissues, it does'nt take a day, but over 70 % of all his patients have got something wrong in the mouth becouse of the bit. A bit take absolutly smallest place in the mouth if it is short, and of that reason will be straight in the mouth. I have a 10,5 cm bit on my normal fjord, and that fits him well. My friend have a Newforest pony, and he could have a 9,5 cm bit. That's not how big body t! he horse has, who decide what size on the bit it should have, it's the horse mouth and the jaw. Well, I hope some of you understood a little of my maybe, not to perfect explainations. Happy fall! Sofia
Re: Norway?
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If somebody is tired on the evaluation, but wanna go to Norway and see something "fjordy", I can suggest the Nordic championship for fjordhorses. See the best rider and driver from Norway, Sweden and Denmark fighting about the ribbons. The championship takes place in Oslo the 30th of June to the 3 of July 2005. Well, and if somebody are tired on Norway, but not on evaluations you can allway go to our stallion evaluation in Sweden who is in september. I think the Danish have their evaluation one week before our, so it's possible to see both of them :-) Questions? Contact me for more information. Sofia
Home in Sweden again, and about fjordhorsetype
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi list, I'm now home after a fantastic summer at Bluebirdlane fjordhorsefarm. I had a great time, and learned a lot about both riding and fjordhorses in North America (Thanks to Lori). The last weekend before I traveled home to Sweden, after 7½ weeks in Canada, we went to Fingerlakes fjordshow in NY. There I met a lot of nice people, and also saw a lot of nice fjords. A nice experince and a gentle show, I'm sure I will visit again if it's possible. Only a day after I came home I went to our Swedish fjordhorse championship. There I saw a lot of nice fjords too, and even a lot of fjordhorsefriends, who I don't see so many times in a year. Now have my school started, and the life here is going on. Yesterday went I to a halterclass (but in Sweden we show with bridle) with my four year old gelding. He won his class, and got 39 of 50 points. I'm happy with that. I have read the messages about the fjordhorse type. In my opionion we should try to get a horse who is really allround, and could do both dressage, jumping, driving, draft and many more things. Here in Sweden on the 1970:s, the fjordtype became bigger and bigger in the front. The neck got really heavy, becouse the opionion wanted a small drafthorse in this time. Before this the fjords looked better in my opionion, with a not so heavy neck, and more like a fjord in orginally. Now and for a couple of years we started to get the "real" fjordhorse type back here in Sweden. A horse who you can do everything with, and a not so heavy horse. We have a couple of fjords here who is not so heavy in the front, and looks "modern" ( but in my opionion, they look like they did before 1970), and they do real good on draft too. Fjordhorses have won "forestdriving" (pulling wood out from the forest), and even plough driving, and other drafty competions here agains big Belgians and other more drafty horses. And the fjordhorses who won are'nt just using for this, they are good at many other things too. I read that some of the listmembers have Gotlands ponies. I had no idé that you can find them in North America too, it's a nice knowledge becouse I like that breed. Once we had one in the barn. He was fantiastic and totally gorgerous. I have upload some pictures from both the championship, and the halterclass on internet. You can see them here: http://medlem.spray.se/fjords Friendly regards Sofia
Re: hello
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome to the list both Myriam and Catherine! Your fjord looked gentle Myriam, (I don't found yours Catherine) I am a 18 old years girl who lives in Sweden. I have been in the "fjordworld" on real about four years. It's lovely, and here in Sweden I have got many new fjordfriends, who all are very nice. In about a week I travel to Lori, and Bluebirdline Fjord, in Canada. I am sure that I will meet very nice people there too :-) I have a own fjordgelding, called Buz (http://medlem.spray.se/fjordfia/HPIM1352.JPG) . He is four years old, and a very lovely boy, who I both ride and drive. I His dad is the stallion Lunbrigg. (http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100217&HorseName=Lunbrigg&Page=1&Sort=0) I take also care about his mum. She is a lovely mare, who loves to work, especceilly jumping. She have a wonderful trot, and a wondeful head. Yesterday came she home from the stallion, so next year I hope she will have a nice fjordfoal. Picture at her: http://medlem.spray.se/fjordfia/Belizzibisss.jpg In Sweden think many people the same about fjords like in France --> They are fat, boring, and lazy... But I think the opinion have changed a little bit anyway. Maybe becouse they have seen what our horses could do with a little bit traning. One more time, Welcome to the list! Sofia Jagbrant--> http://medlem.spray.se/fjordfia Send a fjordcard --> http://get-me.to/fjordcards - Original Message - From: "Myriam/Ptite_marmotte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: hello > This message is from: =?iso-8859-1?q?Myriam/Ptite=5Fmarmotte?= <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > Hello > > I m a new member of fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com, I > live in France, my name is Myriam and I have a > marvellous fjord horse named Fuego.We do a lot of ride > in country,Fuego is afraid by nothing,I have a lot of > fun and happiness with him. > > In France,sometimes fjord horses havent a good > reputation;many people think that fjord horses are > very fat, and very stubborn because it is the > rumour.It s not the reality,my fjord isnot more > stubborn than other horse,and he 's just a little > chubby that make him more beautiful! > > What is the reputation of fjord horses in your > country?are they numerous in your country? > > Here you can see a photo of Fuego: > http://site.voila.fr/poneyfjord/chev20.JPG > > http://site.voila.fr/poneyfjord/page1/A.JPG > > http://site.voila.fr/poneyfjord/chev18.JPG > > Thank you > Bye > > Myriam > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Mail : votre e-mail personnel et gratuit qui vous suit partout ! > Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ > > Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis grâce à Yahoo! Messenger !Téléchargez > Yahoo! Messenger sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Gayla Bluegrass CDE + own driving
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations to good driving and a good drivingpony Ardeth! I became so inspired when I read your post, so I have to write a own and tell about my own driving competetion, with my own 4 year old gelding. Yesterday (on my 18 :th birthday) I compete both cones and another class which is called "brukskorning" on Swedish, in a small competition which my local fjordhorse club had. The main point in the class "brukskorning" is to do things like everyone did before, at the farm, with a big carriage. Both me or Buz (dad: Lunbrigg 181), my 4 year old gelding have never driven a so heavy carriage, but he was a good boy and after a while he was very good to drive that kind of wagon too. My horse and I have never heard so much good things after that class. All people was so impressed of his gentle and calm temperament, and after that I had a smile on my lips the hole day :-) I came on the second place of three in the class, but the winnerhorse was mare who will foal in a month, so if I want could I go on our Swedish big fjordhorse championship. I don't know if I will do that, but it is very fun to drove a class like that. After that I started in the coneclass. I didn't thought Buz would be so happy and run so fast in the cones, so sorry I got two balls down. But I really loved it, and so did Buz! Here are some photos from the competition: http://medlem.spray.se/fjordbilder/ny_sida_8.htm Sofia Jagbrant--> http://medlem.spray.se/fjordfia Send a fjordcard --> http://get-me.to/fjordcards - Original Message - From: "Ardeth Obenauf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: Gayla Bluegrass CDE > This message is from: Ardeth Obenauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I just returned from Georgetown, Ky where my 4 yr old fjord mare, Lena, placed > second overall in Single Pony Training Level at the Gayla Bluegrass CDE. This > was her first competitive event and only her second trip away from home. > > We were first in dressage under one judge and second under the other, 5th in > cones and tied for 1st with no penalties after the marathon. Lena took > everything in stride with the exception of the one post with three black paper > plates on it that caused a momentary startle. > > Even though it pelted down rain on Saturday for dressage and cones, she did > what I asked of her. There was also a pair of fjords entered and three other > fjords present that live full time at the Gayla Driving Center. They all had > a good time greeting each other and calling across the fence to each other. > > My navigator, Jeanette Haislip, another fjord owner, was a huge help keeping > everyone calm, on track and on time. We all had a great time and expect to do > this again soon. > > Ardeth Obenauf > The Lazy AO Farm > Shelbyville TN 37160
Therapeutic Riding
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I have became more and more intrested of Therapeutic Riding, maybe becouse I think I have a horse who would be a superb Therapeutic Riding/driving pony, and even for I think everyone will have a possibly to feel the same wonderful feeling like I, when I am with the horses. Next year when I am finish with the school for a while and hopefully work outside Sweden, I hope my calm and really sweet 4-years old fjord, who loves children could be a nice and useful Therapeutic riding/driving pony. Last week when I visited Gothenburg Horseshow, a disabled girl was riding a fjord when their club got a price for best "Ridingclub for disabled". I became very happy, becouse I thought I didn't see any fjord at all. Sunny Regards Sofia - Original Message - From: "Betsy Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 4:47 AM Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #85 > This message is from: "Betsy Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Re: horses in therapeutic programs > > We, at Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center (southern Illinois), are still > looking for a Fjord for our program. The horse should be between 8-12 yrs > old, and be able to walk, trot, & canter on both leads in an arena quietly > and nicely enough for a beginner. > > I have enjoyed the discussion about therapy horses. Many people think that > therapy horses don't do much besides plod around. Some people even think > that lame horses can be used in a therapeutic program. We currently have 5 > quarter horses in our program, and value and cherish each one of them. We > count ourselves lucky to have such wonderful animals. They are so tolerant > of all we ask of them from having people walking on both sides of them, > having a leader, having a rider giving cues, playing games with all kinds of > props including balls, rings, clip boards, stickers being put on them to > identify parts, etc. The list is as long as your imagination. Our horses > also work in an able bodied riding lesson program. It helps keep them fit, > and gives them something else to do and look at. They all live in a pasture > so they have plenty of down time. Good, suitable horses are so hard to find > that we protect and take very good care of the ones we have. > > Our horses are now all over 20 (20 is the youngest) so we are looking for a > younger horse that will carry us through the next years of our program. If > anyone knows of a Fjord that would be suitable, please let us know. > > Thanks! Betsy Moore
News from my place
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List, First I will say that's so nice to hear about you and your fjords :-) Here in my place in Sweden are all fine. I have easter holiday from the school, and it's lovely. I have droven my 4 years old fjordgelding Buz down to another stable in the middle of the small village where I live. There will I drive him in the village, we need both that experience. Today rode another girl him. She is only 11 years old, and have became such of afraid to the smart and strong haflinger she rent by a not so serious old man. So this day we change horses, and she was very happy after the trip in the forest. We will do the same tomorrow. It feels nice to could help her, even if it's only for a week. I have done a lot new photos on my e-card service. Now have I both a easter-card and "Fjords do it all" card. Look here: http://pub41.bravenet.com/postcard/post.php?usernum=3488477321 This week will I also start write to our Swedish fjords newspaper who I have written in one year. If somebody here have experinces with Fjords and disabled people, I would be very happy if I got a email. I hope I can write about it in the next number. Here is some pictures of me and other people/horses I know: http://medlem.spray.se/fjordfia/ny_sida_10.htm (I hope I can get time to build my English-website this week) Regards Sofia
Re: New Fjord owner :)
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Paula, Congratulation on your new fjord! I have looked at all photos and I think he looks very nice and sweet- with a good trot. How old is he? About the mane, I think you should look at pictures on fine manes, cut, analyze, and try to make it better next time. Never give up! It is not easy but when you try more and more, you became better :-) I still think it is hard, especcialy to exhibitions, there I really wants them fine. Good luck! - Original Message - From: "Paula Chmura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:43 AM Subject: New Fjord owner :) > This message is from: Paula Chmura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi I'm new to the list and a new Fjord owner. My name is Paula and my > Fjord is "Frodo" or Julevan and we live in Los Angeles, California. I > am curious to know about Frodo's early history - he is by Gjestarson > by Svarina and was bred by Gene Bauer. Here are some pictures of Frodo > if anybody recognizes him and can tell me anything about his early > history http://www.pbase.com/paula_chmura/fjord_pony > > 00Frodo and I found each other just before Christmas and it was love at > first sight - he is truly a joy and I am so taken with this pony. I am > doing some trail riding and dressage with him and he is so willing to > please and learns so fast! Everybody at my barn is just so taken with > him - one of the other ladies with my trainer even just went out and > bought another Fjord so we'll have another dressage Fjord here soon. I > call Frodo my little Norwegian Warmblood ;) > > At this point I have a couple of questions for the list if that's > okay. First how do I do a Fjord mane properly? Frodo came with a mane > completely flopped over. I've trimmed it some with scissors but it > just looks choppy and still flops over. Will it always flop, or do I > need to just get it really short? Second, am I supposed to trim his > feathers on his legs? Is this considered a breed trait that should be > left or should it properly be trimmed off? Or does it matter? > > Thanks! > > Paula Chmura and Frodo [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of 350A492E-7B56-11D8-8171-000C416444EFsig.png] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of sig.jsp]
Re: 17 year old mare
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It sounds like a good ideé. Good luck! Regards Sofia - Original Message - From: "Tamara Rousso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 11:21 PM Subject: 17 year old mare > This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thank you Sophia. I ended up not getting the horse. > She is very sweet, but her ground manners would > required a higher skill level than I have. I decided > I would rather keep saving and wait until I can buy a > horse that has been trained well enough for me to > handle. > > Tamara > > --- Sofia jagbrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > In Swedish ears it sound to be much money for a 17 > > old year old horse, who, > > what I understand, has not very fantastic pedigree, > > give exellent foals, or > > is a star on riding or driving. In Sweden could you > > got a young horse, with > > good pedigree, and who is good at riding and driving > > for that price. But you > > live don't in Sweden, there we have had low > > fjordprices in 10-20 years > > (because fjords was born). But now is the price for > > our wonderful fjords, > > going up. Many people understand what a nice horse > > they are and because it > > is not born so many fjords wítch it does on the > > 1980, our price and demand > > for fjords goes up. It is great, but many people who > > compete want not buy a > > fjord, only because they are a fjord. My friend has > > a great fjordjumper (136 > > cm high) witch have won a 110 cm compete with > > sportponnies on a high level, > > and he is even a good drivinghorse, disablehorse. If > > this pony would be a > > brown maybe the owner would got 7000 $, if she would > > to sell him. But now > > she did'nt only because he have the "wrong" colur. > > This is a shame. > > > > My point, is that even if I think it is much money > > for the horse in my ears, > > maybe it it not that there you live. Becouse it gets > > not so many fjords > > there. > > > > Sorry for my English today, but I hope you > > understand my point. > > > > Regards// Sofia > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tamara Rousso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:40 PM > > Subject: value question > > > > > > > This message is from: Tamara Rousso > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > This seems like a reasonable price to me for this > > > mare, but I would like input from breeders. We > > are > > > unable to purchase a younger horse because $3500 > > is > > > the max I can go. We are not interested in > > breeding > > > this mare - only in a confidence building horse > > for > > > my 11 year old and a horse for me when I learn to > > > ride. > > > > > > > > > http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=370921 > > > > > > For those not wanting to take time to go to the > > ad: > > > She is 17 years old and has been used by all level > > of > > > riders. I have not been to see her yet, but the > > owner > > > says her back is strong. She has had 10 foals. > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > Tamara > > > > > > = > > > > > > ***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^*** > > > If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is > > necessary that at least > > > once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, > > all things. Rene Descart > > = > ***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^*** > If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least > once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descart
Re: value question
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, Sorry for being indistinct. What I mean was that if he have had another colur, brown or black and not being of the breed fjord he would be more expensive. Many people have prejudice about fjords here, and don't want to buy one, only becouse they have the "wrong" colur and breed. That was my point, hope you understand :-) Regards //Sofia - Original Message - From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: Re: value question > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Sofia, > > What color is the "wrong" color?I am curious. It seems that once the > White duns (ulsdun) were not popular here but now they are becoming > popular as are the greys. And perhaps the red duns were less popular, > perhaps because they did not have the dark stripe in the mane and tail. > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, less than 4 hours daylight, +5F > > My friend has a great fjordjumper (136 > >cm high) witch have won a 110 cm compete with sportponnies on a high level, > >and he is even a good drivinghorse, disablehorse. If this pony would be a > >brown maybe the owner would got 7000 $, if she would to sell him. But now > >she did'nt only because he have the "wrong" colur. This is a shame. > > > > Jean Ernest > Fairbanks, Alaska > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: value question
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In Swedish ears it sound to be much money for a 17 old year old horse, who, what I understand, has not very fantastic pedigree, give exellent foals, or is a star on riding or driving. In Sweden could you got a young horse, with good pedigree, and who is good at riding and driving for that price. But you live don't in Sweden, there we have had low fjordprices in 10-20 years (because fjords was born). But now is the price for our wonderful fjords, going up. Many people understand what a nice horse they are and because it is not born so many fjords wítch it does on the 1980, our price and demand for fjords goes up. It is great, but many people who compete want not buy a fjord, only because they are a fjord. My friend has a great fjordjumper (136 cm high) witch have won a 110 cm compete with sportponnies on a high level, and he is even a good drivinghorse, disablehorse. If this pony would be a brown maybe the owner would got 7000 $, if she would to sell him. But now she did'nt only because he have the "wrong" colur. This is a shame. My point, is that even if I think it is much money for the horse in my ears, maybe it it not that there you live. Becouse it gets not so many fjords there. Sorry for my English today, but I hope you understand my point. Regards// Sofia - Original Message - From: "Tamara Rousso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: value question > This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This seems like a reasonable price to me for this > mare, but I would like input from breeders. We are > unable to purchase a younger horse because $3500 is > the max I can go. We are not interested in breeding > this mare - only in a confidence building horse for > my 11 year old and a horse for me when I learn to > ride. > > http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=370921 > > For those not wanting to take time to go to the ad: > She is 17 years old and has been used by all level of > riders. I have not been to see her yet, but the owner > says her back is strong. She has had 10 foals. > > Thanks for your help, > Tamara > > = > ***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^***^^*** > If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least > once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descart
Re: Fjord Christmas cards
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When we talk Christmas card I most say, that I have done free e-mail Christmas cards, with only fjordhorses. Look and send them here: http://pub41.bravenet.com/postcard/post.php?usernum=3488477321 I hope somebody enjoy them :-) Best "soon Chrismas" regards Sofia - Original Message - From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Fjord Christmas cards > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > look at the Mischka Farm Christmas cards: There is a really nice Fjord > card! http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/StoreFront.bok > It may be a little late to get them and send out, but I'm going to order > some anyway (never get my cards out till after Christmas anyway) and they > will be good for next year! > > "Dinner Call" by Artist Robert Duncan. > http://store.binc.net/mischkafarm/Detail.bok?searchpath=ac14010bf9425a3f06ee > &category=Christmas+Cards&start=1&total=13&no=84 > > The other cards are nice also (even if they don't have Fjords on them! > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, warmed up to 0 degrees F, seems balmy in > contrast to two days ago when it was -40F > > > > Jean Ernest > Fairbanks, Alaska > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjord People are the Best
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fjordpeople seem to be nice allover the world :-) Here in Sweden, are many other horsebreeders people envious on our good friendly feeling. Regards Sofia - Original Message - From: "Patti Jo & David Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fjord horse" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 5:50 AM Subject: Fjord People are the Best > This message is from: "Patti Jo & David Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I justed wanted to say I think Fjord Owners are the best people! I have met > the most wonderful people over the years and there is just something abouty > Fjord owners!! Just so nice and down to earth and friendly. So unlike > other horse breeds, sorry don't mean to put them down,it's just Fjord owners > are just different!! > > I just want to share what Leo McNally, Janet's husband did for me. I sent > them some pictures of my stallion Ole. Who by the way recieved a blue in > Conformation at the LaCrosse Evaluation. Still so proud! ;-) Anyways he > added a webpage to their website. That was sooo kind and sweet of him, and > I've never met him. I do know Janet but that was just so beyond what he had > to do. If you are interested in seeing Ole, you can click on > www.tamaracksheep.com/users/patti/ and see the big boy! There is just > something to seeing your horse on the internet. > > Patti Jo Walter > Francis Creek Fjords > Two Rivers WI-where it's starting to feel like WINTER BRR
Re: Testing "Manes"
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ohh, please don't let your fjords have long mane =O Even if it is up to the owner, I think we would keep the fine tradition from Norway. Many fjords with long mane do not look like "real" fjord, they look more like Icelandics. And the mane become very heavy at many fjords. I have don't seen one fjord with long mane witch I have think been beautiful. But, but... By the way, very welcome to this nice list :-) Nice to have you hear. //Sofia (in Sweden, who cut the mane yesterday) - Original Message - From: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: RE: Testing > This message is from: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello Tish, > > It is nice to hear from a fellow Minnesotan on the list. I live in Lakeville > with my two Fjords, a mare and her son a gelding. So you have left your > Fjords mane grown long, like quarter horse long?? How does that look? I > don't know that I have ever seen one with a long mane. Anyway, do you drive > or ride or both? I am new to the list, so I don't know too many people on > the list yet. > > Julie > Lakeville, Minnesota > > -Original Message- > From: Pasqual, Patricia A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Fjord (E-mail) > Subject: Testing > > > This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have sent a few messages to the list recently, but never saw them in the > digest. Didn't get a bounce back either. So, just testing. > > A brief word on manes - I have been conducting and experiment since last > fall, allowing Elph's mane to grow. It looks beautiful, and with a bit of > Cowboy Magic it all stays to one side. Heresy, I know, but I rather like > it. > > Tish and Elph in Snowy Minneapolis
Therapeutic Riding
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Betsy, For a year I went a youngleadercourse, there we talked about people with handicap. In next year, when I study my last upper secondary school year, we will work with a project in a hole year. I am very intressed what horses could do for helping handicap people, ecspecially kids. I have heard the expression "Therapeutic riding" before, but I have never really understood what mean with it. Maybe could you explain? I would be very nice. I have a thrre year old fjordgelding whitch I think could be a good handicap horse here in Sweden sometime, so I want like to hear more. Regards Sofia - Original Message - From: "Betsy Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:51 PM Subject: Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #245 > This message is from: "Betsy Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, we are still looking for a Fjord to > use in our riding program. If any of the rescue horses would be older and > suitable, we would be interested. Or if anyone knows of a Fjord that would > be suitable and very affordable, please email me. Thanks. Betsy Moore, > Rafter M Therapeutic Riding Center, Harrisburg, IL
Re: For Sale, miscellaneous (long)
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Linda, I am sorry to hear that you not is psysically able to ride, and that you most sale Ricka. I hope you will be better, and not forget the horses, even that you don't have a own anymore. They is my ground when I feel bad. I hope you get well soon. Best Regards Sofia http://medlem.spray.se/sofian86/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on MSN Messenger - Original Message - From: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 2:35 AM Subject: For Sale, miscellaneous (long) > This message is from: "Linda Lehnert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It is with great reluctance and many tears that I find I must sell my > Fjord mare, Ricka. I am no longer physically able to ride and Ricka > will be better off with an owner who can ride her on a regular basis. I > will be better off not having to pay for a pasture ornament in Herr > Wolbert's pasture. Ricka is a 6 yo mare, a proven broodmare having had a > foal at age 4. She is by the Danish-bred, German-owned stallion, Jon > Halsnaes, a former German national champion who has been on lease to a > farm in Scotland for breeding for the last 2 years. Jon Halsnaes is by > the famous Danish dressage great, Rei Halsnaes. Her dam is Randy by Eller > out of Rikke. Eller is a son of Gramann. Ricka is a light brown dun, 145 > cm tall (Lori says this is 14.1h) and is quite beautiful. Unfortunately, > due to not being ridden lately, she is quite fat right now. She is very > healthy and is the calmest horse I have ever seen. She has outstanding > temperament. She is very reasonably priced at 2,800 and someone has the > opportunity to acquire a high quality German-bred Fjord directly from the > English-speaking owner. A good home is essential. If anyone is > interested, please e-mail me privately for pictures and a copy of her > pedigree. I do not have a video available and don't think I can get one, > but I do have a digital camera with a 4000 page manual. I can ask Herr > Wolbert if he has a video camcorder. I will also be selling my > custom-made Mexican saddle. It is very beautiful and is all handmade of > the finest leather. It has some tooling and some of the fancy stitching > like the Mexican saddles have. Sofia, I am glad to see you're back on the > list again. You're doing very well with your English and it's a hard > language. I remember my mother telling me how much trouble her parents, > Norwegian immigrants, had in learning English when they immigrated to > Texas. You're obviously doing very well with your horses too. Joel, I > enjoy Jord's account of life on the farm. I believe the lady from Green > Meadows is Karen Emirzian and she lives in New England, MA I think. I > remember from one of her previous postings that she is another list > member who has had Morgans for many years. Karen, if I am correct, when > you are snowbound this winter with absolutely nothing better to do, I > would be interested in hearing about your Morgans. I want to stay on the > list even after I have to sell Ricka since it is interesting and I have > found the people some of the most helpful I have encountered. Linda in > Lindenfels in der Odenwald, Hessen > > > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*
Re: Dusty's Great Adventure
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I look on your website, and look at Dustin's page. Very cool western photos, he looks to love what he is doing =) //Sofia - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: Dusty's Great Adventure > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi, > > I just wanted to share with everyone an exciting adventure that has been > presented to us. Dusty and I are heading to southern Oregon later this month to > participate in shipping 1600 head of yearling cattle. I've never seen that > many cattle all in one place! WOW! > > I was contacted by a free lance writer (a Fjord owner, by the way) who has > written an article that she hopes to get published in Western Horseman about the > versatility of Fjords. She wanted to take several rolls of pictures of Dusty > cutting. When I told her that I didn't have any cattle to use at the moment, > she 'mentioned' that they had PLENTY and that they were going to be shipping > in Oct. DISCUSSION FOLLOWED! > > The purpose of this mission seems to be twofold since the lady mentioned that > the cowboys who work for her husband are always teasing them about their > 'draft' horses. Think she's planning on Dusty, once again, 'kicking some serious > Quarter Horse behinds!' LOL! > > I am sure that I will encounter the usual tongue-in-cheek, smug attitude from > the 'real cowboys' when we arrive. Just hope I can pretend to accept it > graciously, knowing full well that it will be ME snorkling inside when they see > Dusty work a cow. It always does my heart good when he raises eyebrows. TEE > HEE! > > I am excited and a bit apprehensive at the same time. I've never been > involved in anything on this huge of a scale before so am not sure what to expect. > This is going to be TOOO much fun. Just hope I don't ride poor Dusty to > death! 1600 is a LOT of cows!! > > I've always said that Dusty likes working cattle because it is the only time > he is allowed to boss something around. For his entire life, I have always > 'told' him what he can and cannot do. Cutting is his opportunity to turn the > table! LOL! > > I'll let you know how it goes. > > Gayle Ware > Field of Dreams > Eugene, OR > www.fjordhorse.com
Re: Quite a number things
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Isn't that great, Sofia? You can't question success! Whatever it is > Fjords don't have (height, spirit, long neck...) they certainly make up for in > temperament and ability. They can do just about anything, safely and sure-footedly > [not a real word!]. It is really great! //Sofia
Re: Quite a number things
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks good have nobody said that she looks like a mule :D But I think I have read in the list for some years ago, that somebody have ask a fjordhorse owner in USA, if their horse was a a mule/zebra. Very strange, because mules are sterile :D My friend who have a jumping fjord, have heard a lot of fun on the competitions. Many people have prejudices about fjordhorses in Sweden, so everyone who didn't seen they before wonder why they are there. She have heard: "Oh, my good! She don't have longer spurs (hope it is right word) and she don't hit him, and the fjord is jumping!" It is very fun to hear this strange word from people. When the competition is over, she and her fjord often is very famous, because they often win. For a month ago they won they first 1,10 jumping track. It is a high level, for a 137 cm tall fjord, who have very short legs and not the best body, for jumping. But he have the extreme winning feeling, it makes him to a winner. //Sofia
Re: Quite a number things
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you Jean, My English teasher tells that we should try to use more vivid words when we are writing, because we would try to raise the level on this course in English B. I try to do use difficult words for me, and it is brilliant to write to the list and get feedback. Very funny! What funny and compelling that you have been in Sweden. Most of all I like our colurful nature, it is in sunny days very appealing. I have been in Stockholm sometimes on holidays with my familes. It is a beautiful capitaltown, but of some reason London appealing me more when I was there in last summer. I am 17 years old and live in the province of Smeland, we have a lot of forest and lakes. I don't know so much detailed information about exhange studens programs, but I know that it is possible to make. Where do you live, and how old are you? Have you fjordhorses? A lot of questions, I am very curious! Regards Sofia
Quite a number things
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi! Although I don't write so ambitious and is a such of anonymous person, I most tell that I really enjoy to read all your messages. It is a amusement to read all happy and nice messages. I attempt to take time to read all messages now, before I have not read so much. I have got a superb English teacher, now is the English lessons in school much funnier. So when I read the list I be better on English and fjordhorses. Absolutely perfect! Now I have a little problem, I have subscribe on the "digestform" on the list. Now I would have the "individual". I have try to change on the website, but nothing change. Is it something wrong with the site, or do I wrong? Here in Sweden is it great. All trees have start drop of their leafs now. Today I have enjoy a sunny autumn with the horses. On the morning I was in our nearest town (Vimmerby, the well known childauthor Astrid Lindgrens hometown) There I buy I bikecomputer to my carriage I drive my fjord in, because I would see how fast I am driving. It was not so easy to install, so I will try to be finish tomorrow. After I have try in a hour with the bikecomputer I took a ride on Buz, my three year old gelding. I rode in the paddock with a Hubertus dressage saddle I maybe will buy. It is hard to educate younghorses, but very funny when it goes forward. Tomorrow I think I will drive he in the forest, it will be the last time for some weeks. Because the moose hunter will start on Monday. Today I have also ride Belizzi, a seven year old fjordmare, who is Buz mother. We train a little dressage in the paddock. In the middle of September we were on the Swedish fjordhorseassociation biggest exhibition. We have with us the stables all three fjords, it went best for our sweet colt Brizing. He went best stallion foal, very funny! Now it is very calmly, it is such of boring. I like to have much things to plan and carry out. But I always gets schoolwork to do ;-) But if anybody wants to have help with the horses in Christmas and wintertime in some weeks so tell me. It would to be great to travel somewhere, and learn talk better English, see something new, and help somebody who appreciate help and me. Now will I go to sleep, I most go up early and study mathematics. Regards Sofia http://medlem.spray.se/sofian86/ (Peg, I have read your messages about Vilde, I hope she will be healthy soon)
Nordfjordeid in Norway
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello everyone! I am going to Norway for the first and see the stallion show there in the first May. Are somebody from the list coming? It would be fun to talk with some fjordhorse interested people from a another country. I will have a white/grey sweatshirt witch "Sofia och Belizzi" is write on the back. It is a jumping fjord on she front. If somebody see me it would be fun you come and talk with me. My English is not the best, but I think it is much more funny to talk, then to write. To night I hope we will get a little sweet fjordfoal. It is the lovely fjordmare i ride and take care about who will be a mother for second time. It will be very fun, but I am very nervous! Greeting Sofia from Sweden
My Swedish fjordlife
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello! It was a big time, when I wrote last but now I doing that. Here is it fine. "My" fjordmare Belizzi has only 4 weeks to she will have her foal. She is very big, but beautiful now. Her three year old son Buz I drive with. And I have also ride him a couple of times. He is very good and nice. It begin be a lot to do in the school, today have I english test. And next week we have such of things to do. But it is going well. Last saturday and sunday was I on a "Natural horsemanship" clinic with the norweigan Ellen Ofstadt. It was very logic and nice. I am also going to a "drive horse" clinic. And I also write to every number of the swedish fjord newspaper Lill-Blacken. It is very fun! How are there with the rest of the fjordhorse world? Waiting many new foals? Best Greetings- Sofia in Sweden
New Member from Sweden
This message is from: "Sofia Jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi! I am new on this list. My name is Sofia and I am 15 years old. I live in Sweden. I am so bad at english I hope you understand! I ride a five years old fjord. Her name is Belizzi. Her dad is Alexander Lucas. She loves at run fast and jump! She is wonderful! Have a nice day! /Sofia
