Re: Help!
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >original message was from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>anyone have any thoughts on this? Or on what type of saddles could possibly >work that would fit my mares plus allow me to feel them? I seem to really >need to feel them to feel secure. > >I would appreciate any input. > Dear Lynda, I recently began riding again following a long period of time of not riding. A saddle that has worked well for me, as well as fitting 3 different fjords is the Abetta Endurance Saddle. It has a small skirt and is very lightweight. It has no horn, is easy maintenance and a wide tree. It fits my 4 & 16 year old Fjord mares, as well as fits a huge, drafty mare belonging to a friend of mine. I also ride in a 17inch seat (western size) and this saddle has been wonderful. I can feel the horse very well, each and every breath and movement. I am very comfortable and feel very secure riding in the saddle. And it comes with rings for the breastcollar, saddle bags and a crupper if you ride with any of those. The saddle was very inexpensive (approx. $280) and is working out very well for my trail rides. I am extremely happy to have this saddle, and will continue using it on the trail while I explore getting back into English riding in the arena and while I am looking for "my perfect" saddle, whether it be an endurance or a nice leather western saddle. I would recommend it highly, unless you are planning on showing ... as I believe these synthetic saddles would not be used in showing. Sarah Nagel in cold, crisp Northern Idaho where we had wind, rain and hail today.
Re: Gayle Ware Post
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> original message wasfrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hi Everyone, > >I have this morning off from the barn so will try to catch up on responses to >several posts from this past week. > >Gayle Ware >Field of Dreams >Eugene, OR > Gayle, thank you so much for the insights and information you shared in your post. I appreciate the opportunity to learn and found the scheduling/breeding/foaling info as well as the stallion/gelding info particularly interesting! Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho with the muddy, furry Fjords!
Re: Rhythm
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>My instructor yelled at me >"Sing--sing!!" Huh? She started the group at Row row row your boat in slow >rhythm. So I sang too. Oh you can imagine my delight when spactators came >in seeing Ingmar flying around the arena and me singing row row row your >boat. Especially when it was obvious that Ingmar was singing, "Inna gadda >la vida baby" at top speed. >However, it worked! Ingmar found that I was not fighting him, that he could >move forward, but that it was more comfortable to go at a slower rhythm >---the one I was singing, because with each breath I took to sing, he was >feeling my rhythm through arms and seat. Cool huh? > Yes, this is Cool! I can't wait to try it. I have a 4 year old mare, Lara (Quad-L Trixie x Paradise Blue Jeans) who is very new to us and just home from the trainers. After a short training period and a few lessons with Lara, we have found that she is very forward moving, which is good, unless you know the rest. She can easily get "charged up" and intense when there are other horses around or any kind of stimulation at all. The trainer kept saying to me "breathe" "relax". (Yeah, right. Easy for you to say, I'm thinking as we charge around.) So now I will be singing!!! I think it's a wonderful idea and appreciate hearing about this. I know it calms me and my children ... so why not my horse! Sarah Nagel who gets to "de-mudd" the weegies today. It's done raining cats and dogs in Northern Idaho, I think.
Wendy and weegies that don't go away
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >previous message is from: Jo Anna Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Pam: Wendy and Juniper are both King Gjestar daughters. Wendy's dame >is Jonetta who, I believe, is Rinna's sister? And Wendy's not due till >late April but she looks like she going to birth a tank. Jo Anna, it's nice to hear that you have one of Jonetta's (June) daughters. It sounds like she is well loved and we are happy to hear that! If Rinna's sire is King Harald 101-A and her dam is Dagmar 2002-A, then yes, she is Jonetta's full sister. Who is Wendy bred to? I would love to hear all about the foal and am already looking forward to foal watch on the list. (boy, it's gonna be a lng winter :-) > lot of Parelli and Lyons in our ground work. But I have to >admit they don't perform Parelli's yo-yo game as well as the >non-Weegies. They will come to me but won't go away! > boy, if that isn't the truth they don't go away very easily at all!! ha. Sarah Nagel in cold, wet, rainy Northern Idaho where tromping out to feed and do chores is no fun today!!! > >
The day I saw my first Fjord
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Betsy Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Does everyone remember the day you "actually saw our first >Fjord"? Yes, Betsy!!! I do ... When I lived in the Bitterroot Valley in Montana, I was driving over to Michele Noonan's. Very close to her home, right on the corner of the road along a sharp turn there is a field... and in that field were two mares, Jensina and Jonetta and their foals ... and we saw them ... ut oh ... we saw them and something happened. Turns out the Noonan's had noticed those special horses as well. As the months passed by, both families watched those mares and foals. The mares grazed and the foals played and grew. We did a little research on Norwegian Fjords, looked at the pictures and read up on them. And everyday the Noonan family would pass by the field and every couple of days our family would pass by the field. When Mandy (Michele's daughter) found out who those special horses belonged to, it didn't take us long to contact the owners and buy 3 of the four (the owners were keeping Jonetta's foal), otherwise we would have ended up with all four! But we saw them, and simply fell in love. Sarah Nagel Ori, Lara and Sonny in Northern Idaho
Re: stallion and grooming
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> loved the grooming post Ruthie still chucking. About King Herald's offspring, our June (Jonetta) was a King Herald daughter and was very sweet natured. Our Sonny, a King Herald grandson (from a different mare who's sire is also King Herald) is also exceptionally sweet natured and lovey ... So, in our experience, YES!I would love to hear from others with King Herald in their lines. Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho with some very fuzzy fjords these days. -Original Message- From: Bushnell's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 10:33 AM Subject: stallion and grooming >This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi y'all, > >speaking of learning more about particular stallions... I've always >wondered about King Herald seems "somewhere" I heard from "someone" >(this is very technical stuff) that his offspring are particularly sweet >natured. anyone comment on that? > >on the grooming subject (well, not really) I thought I'd share a little >something that came from one of my daughter-in-laws this morning but please >consider the source (at the bottom). > >Ruthie, NW MT >... > >HOW TO BATHE A CAT > >1) thoroughly clean the toilet >2) add the required amount of shampoo to the toilet water, and have both > lids lifted >3) obtain cat and soothe him while you carry him towards the bathroom >4) in one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids > (you may need to stand on the lid to prevent escape) > >CAUTION: do not get any part of your body too close where their claws can >find you! > >5) flush the toilet 3 or 4 times. this provides a "power wash and rinse" > which I have found to be quite effective >6) have someone open the door to the outside and ensure that there are >no people between the toilet and the outside door >7) stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids >9) the now-clean cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run outside > >SINCERELY, >A DOG > > >
Re: bits
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >one thing I learned is to not use a so-called 'colt' >bit, or Tom Thumb bit. A waste of time. Spend more time in the snaffle and >hackamore. > I found this to be very true. One of the bits we tried was a Tom Thumb after my trainer rode Lara with this bit for less than 5 minutes, she declared "waste of time". I haven't even been able to give it away! ha ha. We are pursuing training Lara at this time with a hackamore, and I'm researching and may be ordering a Glory Butterfly bit. I would like to thank all of you for responding and sharing your experiences, advice and thoughts in answer to my questions. I really appreciate it. Sarah Nagel having fun learning in chilly, sunny Northern Idaho
re: carts and bits
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- from: "Tish Pasqual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >We purchased an easy entry cart, cost $495 plus $100 for shipping. We also got sleigh runners for it, I'll let you know how those work out this winter! We bought it from Waggoners, they are on-line and very nice to deal with. > >The driving bit I am using is a Glory bit, which is raved about by lots of folks on the Carriage Driving list. It has a mullen (curved) mouth and a high port, which some folks say suits the Fjords (and others) very well for driving. Tish, We were wondering about the website for Waggoners ... please post it if you have it handy. Also, approximately what is the cost for a Glory bit (and where do you get one?) and what is working so well about it? I have a 4 year old that has JUST begun her ground driving and riding training -- we purchased her about 1 month ago and she has been at a trainers for this time. She has a problem with putting her tongue over the bit and then getting very upset about that. If we stop driving or dismount from riding and "help" her, she allows us to lift the bit and she puts her tongue back underneath and then we go along until the next episode. We have tried a large ring snaffle, a full cheek snaffle, a training snaffle bit with shanks, a military style straight bit and a rubber driving bit and so far we are still experiencing the tongue problem. Any suggestions from you or others on the list would be greatly appreciated! I'm going to look for a hackamore tommorrow and try that out next. But I still need to know how to proceed and with what bits after we try the hackamore. Other than this problem, she is doing really well and shows lots of potential (of course, she's a Fjord!!!) Thanks very much!! Sarah Nagel in Idaho with Ori, Lara and Sonny
Re: She's FINALLY here!!!!! :-)
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >My filly is by Anne Appleby' s Misha out of a mare in Santa Rosa named >Senja!! I am a bit biased I know, but I think she is the MOST beautiful >thing on the planet! She has these HUGE brown eyes with long lashes. Like a >stuffed animal. Quite cute! > I love your description of your new filly!!! She MUST look JUST like my yearling, Sonny. He is the MOST beautiful thing and has the HUGEST brown eyes and long lashes also. And he's getting so fuzzy because winter is coming. And I'm so excited for you ... they are so much fun and soon you won't be able to imagine life without her. Enjoy your beautiful Fjord!!! Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho
Re: Horses for kids
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: mary marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Hi, I'm a current horse owner but do not know much >about the fjord horses and would like to know more. >Could you tell me where to find more info? >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Mary, Yes! the NFHR is a great site to start with and it includes links to many others: http://www.nfhr.com/ Happy Fjording! Sarah Nagel >= > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >
Re: Horses for kids
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 10/1/99 7:29:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > IMHO these guys are great with kids, but somehow got the >reputation for being infallable. They are a horse, and at times have the >same reactions as a horse. They do seem to need a rider that they can >trust...in that situation they are more confident and really develope that >"can do" fjord attitude. > >Kate > Kate -- this is a great point. They are still horses, yes. And any 1,000 pound animal is very capable of hurting any of us, especially our kids. It is important with any horse, Fjords included, that children be taught all safety and handling rules applicable to horses and large animals. And that they be properly supervised, wear helmets and be taught to respect the horse and what it is potentially capable of. To clarify, I also keep ours on a lunge line in an open area, or I lead the horse. My daughter (7) was able to ride our older mare in an enclosed area under our supervision and they did just fine. But as an example, I and my daughter have both been stepped on, accidently, when we weren't paying attention and it hurts!!! Overall, I still believe the Fjord temperment is a steadier one, and they are much less likely to spook or react badly in any given situation. I have ridden a Fjord mare that spooks at EVERYTHING ... but she is the exception. Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho
Misha ... I can relate!
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Misha wrote: >! Lately I have been riding my horse so much and having the >time of my life. It seems all I ever do is WORK. I always had this excuse >not to ride--not because I didn't want to I would rather ride or drive a >horse more than anything else int he world, but I always was saying, well, >you had better get this done first. They days whirled by. Then one day I >said to myself, life is short, get out there and ride. So I am having a >blast. My husband comes home and I am bouncing off the walls. He says, "Oh >you are riding your horse, thank god--you are always so happy when you do!" Misha ... ride your horse! I am also one of those who always has a list of things I "should" do. Well, one of the best things I have done recently is to stop and ride my Ori, at least every other day, sometimes daily. The last two weeks have been heaven in that respect. I come home with much more energy, my mind cleared from the wonderful trail ride and my clothes covered with dust and horse hair. I love it!!! Makes me a better wife and mom after I have my "horsey" fix and some quiet time with my wonderful mare. The other stuff will wait. Grab today and enjoy a couple of hours outside on your horses back! It's the most wonderful, selfish thing I have done for myself in years!!! Sarah Nagel, enjoying the crisp fall weather and the changing leaves in the hills.
Re: Horses for kids
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >This message is from: "Brigid Verry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi Everyone, >I have just joined the mailing list and would like some help. I like what I have read about the breed in my search for a breed of >horse/pony that is suitable for small kids to gain their confidence and >then go on to have a lovely riding pony to do things on. >Are the Fjords too strong for small children? I Dear Brigid, Our family very much depends on our Fjords for teaching our kids about horses. This was one of the reasons we selected Fjords as a breed. We had a 25 year old mare with perfect manners and who was able to stand patiently and move carefully and gently around the kids (5 and 7). At the same time, you must always approach teaching the kids the basic safety and handling rules that pertain to all horses. We now have a 16 year old mare who is patient and kind and actually loves all the attention bestowed on her by my youngsters, but I notice that she moves more quickly and yet seems very aware of the kids and is careful with them. Our yearling is much more energetic, and yet he also will slow down and put his head down to be near the kids ... the Fjords seem to really "like" children as a rule. Also, with their mostly steadier and unflappable (all tho not all of them) personalities, I feel they are particularly suited to being around kids. My daughter had the opportunity to school on a Fjord owned by the Anderson family -- Budd, an 8 year old gelding who is over 15 hands and big as a tank. He was gentle, aware and very careful of my 7 year old. There is no cuter site than the site of a small child leading a big old boy like that around. He would actually lower his head and shorten his stride so as not to step on her, he was so good. Well, maybe the site of her cleaning out one of his big feet...that was pretty darn cute also. Well, maybe the site of her cantering bareback on him on the lunge line with Laree teaching her ... ah, Fjords and kids! All in all, Fjords are great family horses, offering something for each of us. Even tho, they have great strength, they are easily trained and very willing to do what we need them to do. IMO, they are also SMARTER than "other" horses!!! This makes them special as well. I'll stop now ... cuz I could go on and on and on ... Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho loving her fuzzie Fjords
Re: Looking for Pedigree Info
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeri ... look on http://www.clrc.on.ca/fjord.html this is the Canadian Registry website ... you can search pedigrees there. Good luck. -Original Message- From: Jeri L Rieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Fjord Horse' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:06 AM Subject: Looking for Pedigree Info >This message is from: Jeri L Rieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi! I am looking for information on the Stallion "Gromar". I think that he >is a Canadian fjord, don't know if he still around or anything about him. I >have two mares that have him in their backgound.both Canadian >registered. I must like him? I think that not too long ago on the List >there was mention about a way to track pedigrees on the internet? > >Jeri in Washington, Missouri >
Re: Betsy's address
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hello Ruthie! hope you are doing well. on Betsy's card her email is listed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]and [EMAIL PROTECTED] her website is http://www.fjordpony.com she mentioned some trouble with her email here lately, but keep trying. her phone # is (559) 645-4111 and fax is 645-5250. hopefully you can reach her! Sarah Nagel -Original Message- From: Bushnell's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 4:04 PM Subject: Betsy's address >This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I've tried every-which-way to e-mail Betsy Bauer but returns each time. >Just looked at the List directory and her site comes up faulty here.. >didn't see her address on the NFHR site neither and not listed in the >roster. Maybe one of you can supply it please? > >Twenty degrees here the last two mornings!!! Hope there's no significance >to low temperatures (like a nasty winter in store) Fjords are donning their >warm fuzzies already. > >Lisa, did I miss the explanation of why you moved your barn so far? (from >CA to UT) That's a major undertaking.. what was so special about it? That's >a pheripheral question I suppose but enquiring minds want to know =) > >Ruthie, NW MT > > >
Kathy Rollins .... promotional booth
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List excuse me please I'm trying to get in touch with Kathy Rollins!!! Kathy, please contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Thanks! Sarah Nagel
Re: new shoes
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> oh Denise!!! Enjoy the classes in Turlock and best of luck to you After going to Libby for my first time, I know I will be entering classes next year as well. And as for an older rider getting back into horses after a long while ... count me in!!! LOL -Original Message- From: Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 1:09 PM Subject: new shoes >This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hello list members, > >Today, my farrier applied some new shoes to my seven year old, Knute. Knute >is ouchy here, riding and runny on the hard sun-baked clay and rocks of >northern California. Especially after a trim job. So we are trying some >new shoes. They are a little wider to support the hoof wall and a little >thicker, cause he's a big boy. He also added some chucks of borium at the >tip to give him a little more traction on pavement. I ride him on pavement >out of our neighborhood to get him to rocky dirt paths to trail ride. (not >far, about 6 house lengths, don't worry). The farrier says the borium will >outlast the shoe. Does anyone have experience with borium for traction? >I'm going to ride him tonight when it is cooler. I 'll start out slow with >him, since he won't be used to the new stopping power he'll have. > >Thanks to all for the Libby updates. I sounded like a wonderful weekend. >Hope to attend next year. See you all at Turlock. I am entering a couple >of classes. Please be kind to an older rider, who is getting into horses >again. Don't laugh too loud Denise in Calif. > >
Fw: wrong list?
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> this didn't come through this morning when I sent it ... so here we go again. Gerry, I sure hope you are still with us. -Original Message- From: Carl and Sarah Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 8:42 AM Subject: Re: wrong list? >Gerry --- > >WAIT!!! don't unscribe yet. give it a chance. this list USUALLY discusses >Fjords and related issues. > >Only occasionally do we get off topic, and for the most part, we enjoy it >when we do and we hear about it from all who don't. > >And then we go on ... and get back to Fjords!!! We really love them and >hope you do also. And you can learn so much from the discussions here, as >well as contribute and help us learn. > >Hope you can hang on for a little while longer before making up your mind. > >Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho (can you say Libby?? :-) > >-Original Message- >From: Andersen, Gerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 8:12 AM >Subject: RE: wrong list? > > >>This message is from: "Andersen, Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>I have been told to lighten up or to delete e-mails when the subject >>matter is not interesting to me. >> >>In the 2 days I have been on this list I received 26 e-mails (and it's >>not yet noon on the second day). 4 regarding horses. 22 regarding dogs. >> >> >>I don't feel I should have to delete 5 e-mails for each one that is on >>topic. >> >>So I will lighten up and unsubscribe. >> >
Pictures on NFHR website
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Mike (and all who contributed) for the pictures on the NFHR site. They are just the best. What a bunch of great people on some awesome horses!!! Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho Libby starts tommorrow!!! :-) -Original Message- From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 5:48 AM Subject: The Queen >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Well since the topic has changed to Dogs instead of Fjords... Here is a >link to a new picture I have put on the NFHR web site. This picture was >sent to me by David Stewart, the Registrar of the Fjord Horse Registry of >Scotland. > >This link is to the NFHR.com gallery. Click on the link that says >"Princess Elizabeth & Hans" > >http://www.nfhr.com/gallery.html > >Yes this is the present Queen Elizabeth. > >Mike > >
Re: Libby, The Laurels & ducks
This message is from: "Carl and Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Vivian, Oh!! I enjoyed the story of Chuck. Thanks so much for sharing ... we can learn so much from our critters!!! I am sorry to hear that your father-in-law passed away. Our thoughts and prayers are with your family. May God richly bless all of you. Best of Luck to you and Marnix on your upcoming adventures. Sarah Nagel -- who is so very excited as Libby approaches -- this is our first year to attend!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:35 AM Subject: Re: Libby, The Laurels & ducks >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I wanted to wish everyone going to Libby good luck, some of you are already >on the road. I hope you have wonderful weather and a great party. >Unfortunately Marnix and I will not be able to compete at The Laurels ASHA >Pony CH. this weekend as my father-in-law passed away yesterday and Sam needs >to be with his mother in Arizona. My oldest is coming home to help out so >I'll be taking Marnix to The GMHA Pleasure show instead since it is a day >trip for me, and I have to keep conditioning for Gladstone on the 23rd. It's >alot more interesting to condition at a show than on the roads alone. > >Now for something completely off topic > >I own two female ducks, a Muscovy and a Pekin The Muscovy, named "Oakie >from Muscovy" was incredibly broody this season, but with no male around to >fertilize her eggs her many attempts to hatch a brood ofcourse failed... >Until she ousted a banty hen from her nest and sat the chicken's eggs as well >as some of her own. Well miracle of miracles she managed to hatch a chick as >in chicken chick. The little black banty chick was vigorously protected by >his"mother" and about day three "Oakie" managed to get the chick across the >road to my mother's pond. My son rescued them as we were certain the duck >would insist her baby swim and the chick would drown. A week later my >daughter and I heard splashing and plaintive cheeping coming from the plastic >pool we keep near the house for the ducks. When we went to look there was the >Muscovy swimming around the pool followed by a frantically flapping baby >chick doing it's best to keep it's head above water. We drained the pool >after rescuing the chick. The chick whom my husband has named "Chuck" -Half >chicken half duck- is about a month old now. His "mother" has enlisted the >baby sitting skills of the Pekin female so that she may fly across the road >for frequent swims. In the evening you'll find the chick proudly sitting on >his "mother's" back or tucked under her wing with her "Nanny" the Pekin in >close attendance. My daughter considers this arrangement to be the essence of >the true 90's family. In the beginning I wouldn't have given this arrangement >a chance of success. Just goes to show the power of a Mother's Love as well >as making the best out of the cards one has been dealt as I am sure in many >respects "Chuck" is a huge disappointment to his doting "mother". >Good Luck to everyone this weekend Vivian Creigh >
Re: Goodbye to Our June
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you Nancy and to all of you who sent condolences regarding June. I just love hearing about her foals ... and really enjoy knowing her zebra stripes are still out there!!! And I know why her Jon is your favorite horse, Nancy ... he MUST have his dam's personality and willingness! Thank you again! Still looking forward to Libby Sarah Nagel -Original Message- >This message is from: Nancy Hotovy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sarah - I'm very sorry you lost your mare Jonetta. Our Frida must have >been one of her first foals (she is 20 years old) and must be the >"Princess of Zebra Stripes". She's one of the heaviest marked I've >seen. She has produced many fine foals for us including TUF Reba which >received her Silver Medallion at the last Evaluation in Blue Earth, >after doing the conformation, draft, driving and Western Riding. > >I also have a 12 year old gelding out of Jonetta and Anvil's Haugull. >"Jon" is (and I'm sure always will be) my favorite horse. He was the >6th horse to receive the Register of Excellence Award from NFHR. > >So you see, your girl certainly made her mark in the Fjord world and I'm >sure she will be greatly missed. > >Regards, > >Nancy >
Goodbye to Our June
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Today our family sadly said goodbye to our beautiful Fjord mare June (Jonetta). She had been sick for the last 3 weeks with COPD/heaves and also had pneumonia. After the pneumonia cleared, the heaves did not respond to the drug treatments and she was laboring for each breath. Together with our vet, we decided it was best to put her down. June was 25 years old, a very loving and gentle horse. As my 7 year old daughter led her into the trailer today, June touched the top of Amy's head with her nose. She was one of the best and we loved her. Our only regret is that we didn't get more time with her. June will be fondly remembered. Any of you out there who knew June or have one of her offspring (she contributed 14 registered foals to the breed), please let us hear your stories. She was a noble and hard working gal. And if you ever saw her legs, you would know that she was "Queen of the Zebra Stripes". We will miss her. Sarah Nagel and family in Northern Idaho
Fw: Fjords of all sizes.
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Oscar & Shirley Anderson wrote: > >> Anyone who has ever seen my daughter, Laree, ride Budd in the show ring knows >> that he is all Fjord, right down to his size 3 feet. so very true and Budd is a georgeous Fjord ... he is awesome! Sarah Nagel in Idaho with June and Sonny :-)
Re: Fjords/Size
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean. Hear Hear. I love Fjords - all sizes! My mare, June is 14 hands. I don't ride her. I'm 5'10", overweight, and 42 years old - my extra isn't going anywhere fast, anytime soon. I am looking so hard for a 15 hand gelding, heavy and sturdy, so that I will feel comfortable riding. Lots of folks say, the fjords can handle it, even the 14 hand mares. But I don't feel like I should ask a smaller horse to bear my weight. Now driving - that's another story and I'm learning to drive. Makes me very happy! When I ride one of the taller Fjords, I feel comfortable, the horse seems comfortable and I like that. So, let's hear it for those 15+ hand Fjords, that are out there!!! Sarah Nagel in slightly overcast and cooler Northern Idaho with June and Sonny :-) -Original Message- From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, August 08, 1999 1:48 PM Subject: Re: Red Duns/Movie Fjords/Size >This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >My main riding horse is Bjorken, 15-2, who I raised. Gelded at 11 months >but not weaned until 14 months, maybe he grew taller than he would have if >he hadn't been gelded until 2 or 3 and weaned much earlier. He has withers >that add a good 2 inches to his height. However, Stella has another son, >Anvil's Solvaktig, who is also 15-2. Anyway, Bjorken has good, balanced >conformation, a pretty head, a wonderful fjord temperment and remains >sound. I suppose he wouldn't be considered "typey" but then when will I >ever get to enter him into a Fjord show to know? Meanwhile, I am a big >woman, tall (5'9"+ and a bit overweight. :) He suits me just fine. > >I have a 4 year old filly, Anvil's Adel who is perhaps 14-2 and my >instructor/trainer was worried that Adel would be too small for me..My >instructor likes the thoroughbreds and warmbloods. I think she is >surprized how well Adel is handling my weight. We are taking it very easy, >careful of her back. but Lisa said we looked real good when I was riding >Adel in the lesson last Friday. > >I don't think I would look good on a really small Fjord. I sometimes wish I >were your size, Karen, but one has to take what they get I guess. I'm >working on the weight thing, tho. My old gelding, Bjarne, is also only 14-2 >but much stouter than Adel as he is drafty, and he feels great to be on and >not as far to the ground as Bjorken! > >Jean in soggy Fairbanks, Alaska, after it rained all night..but the sun is >trying to show. > > >>I can't tell you how turned-off I am when someone tells me, or I overhear >>comments about how "neat" it is that such a fjord, or so and so's fjord is >>15hh+, or they are only interested in "tall" fjords... So? IMO they become >>too spindley legged, and too "horsey" looking. > >Jean Ernest >Fairbanks, Alaska >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Instructions and Quote
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thanks so much, Mike!!! loved the instructions as well as the quote!!! :-) Sarah Nagel in overcast & rainy (we really needed it!) Northern Idaho with June & Sonny -Original Message- From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, August 06, 1999 5:29 AM Subject: Quote >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Just came across this quote. Thought it was quite appropriate as to the >discussion of kids & stallions of today. > >--- --- > >"If the whole world depends on today's youth, I can't see >the world lasting another 100 years." >--Socrates > > >
Re: Stallion Strength
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vivian - thank you for the information on the Dutch Studbooks. I appreciate it! And I feel s much better. The idea of 'government involvement' gets my hackles up - and that's for sure! Sarah Nagel feeling so much better in Northern Idaho with June and Sonny :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Stallion Strength >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Breeding of Fjord Horses as well as other breeds in the Netherlands is >"controlled" by independent stud books not the Dutch government. The Fjord >stud book cannot make you geld your stallion however it will issue papers of >resulting offspring in a color to indicate that the parents were either not >evaluated or not evaluated favourably. > >The gestapo will not come to your farm and shoot your horses and haul you off >to jail. > > People may privately own stallions and they can go through the evaluations >and if said stallion is favourably evaluated he will be represented in the >Stallion Roster. However most people choose to allow the studbooks to own the >stallions and farmers lease them on a yearly basis. Just because a certain >stallion is standing in your district that year there is nothing preventing >an individual from taking their mare outside the district to breed to a >particular stallion. > >Evaluations and record keeping are the studbook's job and the studbook is >run by a BOD of interested individuals, none of whom are stallion owners by >the way. The Dutch government is not involved in setting policy for >individual breed organizations. > Vivian Creigh >
Re: Stallion Strength
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, being so new to this, I'm not sure I'm qualified at all to comment. But I do have a perspective I'd like to share for thought among the group. And it may be more an overall "way of life" comment than specific to breeding Fjords. As individuals, breeders can do a much superior job of breeding their horses than can a government controlled agency. We DON'T need the government to tell us what stallions or mares to breed. That can be done through evaluations sponsored by farms and the NFHR, etc. The sharing of experience and knowlege gained, and the lessons passed on, as well freedom to choose who to geld and who to breed will continue to produce a fine, strong breed of Fjord. The breed standards, the competition at shows, and other instruments currently in place should continue to serve us well. I would shudder to think the government would be intruding into yet another part of our lives. Sarah Nagel in hot, dry Northern Idaho with June and Sonny :-)
filly or mare?
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i think a filly is a filly until age three, at age four she becomes a mare. same for a colt - a stud colt til three, then a stallion at four. anyone else know? Sarah Nagel in Idaho with June and Sonny :-) >> and at what point is she a mare? Webster says a filly is a young mare... ? >> >> Thanks for responding. Ruthie >> >> > >
Re: Aged Horses and Ponies
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> well, it looks like my Jonetta (June) who is 25 could have quite a ways to go ... and that thought makes my day!!! thanks Mike, for the information. Sarah Nagel with June and Sonny in Idaho -Original Message- From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 7:36 AM Subject: Re: Aged Horses and Ponies >This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 12:17 PM 7/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> I know that ponies live longer than horses, I think the record is >>fifty-six. How long do Fjords normally live. Seems I have heard a lot >>about stallions having life-ending or at least life-threatening colic in >>their late twenties. Tell about your longest-lasting Fjords, okay? > >Well I can tell you that the oldest Fjord we have registered is now 32 >years old. Her name is Sonja and she is owned by Dick McGuire in Montana. > >The second oldest we have is Marsha Jo Hannah's mare Nansy. She just had >her 30th birthday. > >It looks like the oldest stallion is KING OSCAR. He is 28 yrs old now. > >Mike > >
Re: Supplements
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean - thank you for the heads up on the Selenium Salt Blocks. I have always assumed they were a "good thing" and my horses don't seem to lick too much of it. I will check out the concerns you mentioned with my Vet and some local fellow Fjord owners. I appreciate your insights. I'm very new to this and find that I learn more and more as time goes on! Sarah Nagel in Idaho with June and Sonny -Original Message- From: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 10:45 PM Subject: Re: Supplements >This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I hesitate to provide a salt block that has Selenium, because a couple of >my horses lick a LOT of salt and you can't control the amount of Selenium >they get. The vitamin supplement that I use has selenium in it. We are >selenium poor up here in Interior Alaska also, and I buy local hay. > >I was talking with someone at the spring tack swap that said their horses >used to have beautiful manes and tails but for some reason the mane and >tail of both horse was breaking off and falling out and they didn't know >why..they had checked for lice and other things. I happened to think to ask >if they were feeding Selenium. He said, well, the only thing different was >that he had gotten selenium salt blocks about 6 months before.. I told him >to throw them out...maybe that wasn't the cause, but to be safe , get rid >of them! I never was able to talk to this man again, so don't know what >happened, but I would be careful about the selenium salt blocks. Give >selenium in the supplement, so you can control the amount! > >Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, enjoying a brief break from the rain, but more >due tomorrow. > > At 09:58 PM 7/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >>This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Here in Northern Idaho I provide my horses with a salt/mineral block that >>contains Selenium. Also, I feed grain that has selenium added and my older >>mare, June, eats senior feed that contains selenium.If your feed >>contains Selenium, check with your vet before adding any more Selenium to >>your horses diet (like with a supplement) as you don't want TOO much >>selenium either. >>Sarah Nagel in hot (mid-90's) Northern Idaho with June and Sonny > > >Jean Ernest >Fairbanks, Alaska >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Supplements
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here in Northern Idaho I provide my horses with a salt/mineral block that contains Selenium. Also, I feed grain that has selenium added and my older mare, June, eats senior feed that contains selenium.If your feed contains Selenium, check with your vet before adding any more Selenium to your horses diet (like with a supplement) as you don't want TOO much selenium either. Sarah Nagel in hot (mid-90's) Northern Idaho with June and Sonny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:54 PM Subject: RE: Supplements >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This is kind of a question for the Northwest Fjord owners, but do any of you >feed your Fjords a selenium supplement? Many of the horses at my barn are on >a selenium supplement as was my warmblood. Just wondering if I should plan >on feeding the selenium or if the Fjords tend not to have a problem with it >even though the Northwest grown hay is either grossly deficient or lacking >that mineral. > >Thanks -- Tami (& Soroya) >
Re: Aged Horses and Ponies
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes, Jonetta (June) turned 25 on June 6th. She is full of life, healthy, willing and obedient and the best darn horse my 7 year old could have. We do feed her senior feed, she doesn't digest regular grain fully anymore - although she does still have a full, healthy set of teeth. She loves her grain and hay, and most of all -- attention!!! We hope for many more years with her - she's responsible for our family catching "Fjord Fever"!!! :-) Sarah Nagel in Idaho with June and Sonny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, July 25, 1999 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Aged Horses and Ponies >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hi Alex, Glad to hear your old guy is going strong >jensina is 25 as of June 10. She too has to have senior grain and not many >teeth left. But she is pregnant with her #? (Mike May, can you tell me how >many ?) foal due in spring. She has to have her babies weaned at the >earliest, as she cant keep on the weight when she is nursing. She is full of >energy and spirit, and our kids ride her. I ride her around the neighborhood >to keep her in shape. Her 1/2 sister Jonetta is going strong too. Right >Sarah? Please put in your two cents >Michele Noonan >In Sunny Bitteroot Valley, >Stevensville, Montana >
Re: wolf teeth
This message is from: "carl and sarah nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> my yearling gelding, Sonny, has wolf teeth. our vet indicated that she will want to remove them in the next 6 months or so. some breeds have them. seems that Fjords do. that's all i know! according to the vet, they just "pop" right out. she had wanted to remove them when she gelded him, but they weren't in enough. Sarah Nagel in Northern Idaho with June and Sonny >chances of finding 3 wolf teeth in 2 mares was phenomenal, that mares rarely >have wolf teeth. Does anyone know if this is common in fjords? >
