Coming 7 Year Old Superb Gelding For Sale In Oregon
This message is from: northho...@aol.com I have been busy beyond belief and have not had a lot of time to read emails regretfully. Being so busy, I realized I have too many horses, and have decided to downsize a little. I am offering for sale my very best, most talented Fjord, Polaris (aka Polo). You will not find a better bred horse anywhere. He is the horse with the best work ethic in my barn. He is very correctly built, and is a joy to watch move. He is very uphill, and lifts beautifully into a canter. He is also very well started. He can go any direction you want. Trail, dressage, driving.? If you are interested in this wonderful gelding, either drop an email to me at northho...@aol.com or give me a call at (503) 809-1168.? ? Pamela Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #158
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/26/2008 8:22:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Reading "Natural Horsemanship Explained" by Dr. Robert Miller, and thought > this really applied in many ways to our Fjords - at least to mine. This > section was talking about why donkeys are less flighty than the average horse. > > "It evolved in steep, arid terrain. Blind flight, so effective for the > plains dwelling horse, could be fatal here. Donkeys, therefore, make decisions > rather than blindly fleeing. This is what I have intuitively felt about my horses' "spooks" where they freeze as opposed to a true spook. Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Hitching A Ride For Gas
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, you would not believe how busy it has been here, and how rarely I get to read, let alone post. But I've got a quick request for a friend. She lives down in the Southwest and is acquiring a very special mare (nonfjord however) up in the Spokane area. She does not want the mare to go via one of the big shippers. The horse could stay in Spokane for a while longer (now is an awfully hot time to be hauling horses). But are any of you going from that general area down to Colorado, Oklahoma or Texas in the next few months? With gas being as outrageous as it is, it might be helpful for you to take on a hitchhiker who can pay her way. If not now, how about in September. Will any of you have a spare slot in a trailer coming home from the show? Thanks! Hopefully my life will smooth out soon and I'll have a chance to join in the discussions more often. :) Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Energizer Bunnies
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got to the current Fjordhorse Digest and was able to relate to Gayle's mentioning Pam Adler's Dusty son in an endurance race, and that Dusty must have passed on the "energizer bunny" gene.? I just started my Dusty/Holly son.? My instructors have called him "the original energizer bunny" (will have to tell them he is a son of the original) who just has so much go in him.? No real off-button.? We have to tell him he's done.? He has also been called a Hummer and a tank, because on trails if there is something in the trail that the other horses are walking around, he just goes right over, or through.? He's calm and gentle, interested in no things on the trail, not afraid of dogs coming out of the bushes and running up behind him, water crossing is a breeze.? He's absolutely perfect. We were toying with the idea of endurance in a couple of years, or, more importantly, he would be the best search & rescue horse in my herd (and that is saying something).? This boy has a future in front of him.? He turns 4 in June, so he's still a baby (one of the reasons why we have to tell him when he's done, so he doesn't overdo himself when he's this young). Pamela Medley The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
NW Shows
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/5/2007 6:53:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, contrary to some beliefs, none of this was done with the idea of destroying the Libby show. The idea that the NW Fjord show is too close to the Libby show is in my opinion garbage. Back when I was involved in the draft horse world (no I was never a driver, I just threw lots of harness for friends of mine) some of these guys would spend 2 weeks at the Puyallup fair, then 2 weeks later be at Monroe and 2 weeks later be in Sand Point and yes there were times I was at all three. All these shows were two weeks apart and the ones who wanted to be there were always there. Well thought out post, and I could understand your perspective. I do disagree with this above paragraph. For me, it is hard to get away, there is a lot on my plate, more now than ever. I could, theoretically, make it to a show in a month and not have the other responsibilities take a nose dive, but two in the same month would be difficult. If I were to show, I'd have to make a choice. Because of the direction my life has gone in, I find it very difficult to show so far from home. I was only just able to manage attending Libby, without a horse, in 2001. Still I would LOVE to show my horses at a fjord show. In my perfect little world of my own creation, I'd love to see a show a month during the late spring-early fall season. Maybe June in California, July in Oregon, August in Western Washington (no offense Moses Lake but you talked about how HOT it is there) and September, the jewel in the crown, the Libby show. I think there could be room for all. I could even imagine a smaller show in Alaska, a "Midnite Sun" show, what a kick that could be! I would love to see more opportunities for people who, like me, cannot travel all that far but DO want to participate in some fjord function. Just a thought. A thought I really like, but I don't know how many others would have as much enthusiasm for this idea as I have. I think there are ways to make multiple fjord shows a beautiful thing instead of a struggle. Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Monday Fjord Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, it's Monday and time for my once in a blue moon advertisement that I am trying to sell a horse. I don't WANT to sell him, but husband has convinced me that it would be a good thing. I start working soon though, so I may end up just buying him back from myself if he doesn't sell very soon! He really is a bargain at $3500. He will be 3 in June. He's a Misha grandson (I love that horse) and a Dusty son (nothing chopped liver about him either). This is the only horse I've ever seen doing a capriole in the field. A capriole is an amazing sight to see from any horse, but a fjord, wow. This boy is a love. Come June, if he's still in my barn I will start training him for saddle. Price will go up (if he's even still for sale by then). So if you want a beautiful, smart, sweet, talented young fjord, that you can train to go in any direction you want and expect excellence, check him out. We're just outside of Portland, Oregon. He's listed on Dreamhorse.com Here is an ad for him. _DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 979750_ (http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=979750) Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2007 #91
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/20/2007 9:05:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was a top ten moment in my horse life. I just love introducing people to this beautiful breed and watching Clyde slowly charm the pants off them. They all understand why I can't wait to add another potato chip to my herd. That happened long ago to me with, not a fjord, but an arabian. I came home late, he was lying down. I checked on him, he picked up his head, put it in my lap and went back to sleep. It was a beautiful starlit night in Malibu, and it was enchanting. It only happened the once. Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Hostar
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/10/2007 3:29:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With a few years behind both of them.I can only look forward to seeing what they both achieve in 2007 and beond ! So.to HOSTAR, and O E Wilson..HAPPY BIRTHDAY A birthday today? I have to say, I am very VERY happy with his 5 year old child in my barn. He does good work. This horse is the most curious, thoughtful (you can see the wheels spinning in her brain) horse I have. She probably has the most talent and is super fun to ride. I am so glad to have a Hostar offspring in my life. :) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Pergolide
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got off the phone with my vet. The liquid Pergolide is being taken off the market, not the caplets or powder. The liquid was unstable. Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Horse TV
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jerry, Thanks for the heads up about Egon von Neindorff. He trained my riding instructor, Thomas Ritter. Thomas is the most thoughtful, insightful instructor I have come across. You just inspired me to sign up for Horse TV, just so I can watch this show. I was going to pay $40.00 to buy the video! Just so you know, Egon died several years ago. It is a blessing that we have videos of him. I'd love to find video of Nuno Oliveira. I've been reading one of his books, and he is simplicity, grace and elegance. Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Foal Video
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have no foals this year unfortunately, but next year Anyway, to remind myself of how sweet these babies can be, and to get you all in the mood for those newborn fjords, here's a video of a couple of our babies on my Myspace. Makes me so wish Polo had a little sister or brother this year. _MySpace Videos: Fjords Horses by Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1873495709) Either link should get you there. _http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=18734957 09_ (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1873495709) Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Gunnar
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could it possibly be his teeth that are a problem? If his teeth are bad, or scarce, then he might not be able to chew very well and may not be digesting as well. We had an old mare in New Mexico that had this problem. She was a little pinto, and was of undetermined age, since she didn't have much in the way of teeth. When we bought her she was underweight with a dull coat. We switched from hay to Equine Senior and soaked alfalfa cubes and that horse blossomed. I don't know if this is Gunnar's problem, obviously, but it's worth mentioning, just in case. Pamela _Northern Holiday Horses_ (http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html) _Welcome Polaris 2_ (http://hometown.aol.com/sowestern/myhomepage/index.html) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Carol - Raffles
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/15/2007 4:33:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Regarding Foal Raffles. -- This may be a good money-making idea to help Catherine out of a bad situation, but basically I'd like to say, and say it very firmly that I am absolutely against raffling foals. To me, it's almost an immoral thing to do. -- I just simply don't like the idea of someone winning a baby horse in a raffle. --- That's my emotional take on this subject. I agree with most of your post. Well thought out. Just wanted to point out that the raffle that was being discussed was a jackpot raffle, not for a foal. The winner would win half of the money, the other half going to pay for the vet bill, at least that was the way I read it. :) Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re:Rough weekend at Hestehaven
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/13/2007 5:27:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was pretty sure from previous conversation that the buyer would be unable to do that based on the estimate, as much as they were truly heads over heals for this boy, but I would need to confirm that. As the registered owner, I was unable to do that also, as much as we really loved him. Yes, that is "what credit cards can be for" (if you have that high a credit limit and I don't) but I am also a single parent of a young child and must consider that as well. When Catherine said she'd take him to OSU if we weren't, we signed over ownership. Signing him over was a wonderful act of love. In the end it worked out well. It can be a balancing act having animals and children. We have to do the best by our children first, but then do our best by our animals. You managed to do both. I do like the raffle idea Amy had so that Catherine's act of love doesn't put her too far in the hole also! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Amy's Idea To Help
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/13/2007 5:27:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After getting a good night's sleep and talking to a few other members of our Oregon Fjord Club, we have come up with an idea to try to help pay for the coliced colt's surgery, and maybe get him back with the family that were trying to buy him. The Oregon Fjord Club will be sponsoring a 50/50 raffle! The way it works - Tickets will be $1 each, and at the conclusion of the raffle the winner will receive 1/2 of the total money collected. The other half will go directly to pay for the surgery. We will draw the winning ticket on Sunday March 25 at the conclusion of the Northwest Horse Fair and Expo, where we will again be promoting Fjord Horses to thousands of spectators. I partially like this idea. I would LOVE to buy raffle tickets that would help benefit this little gelding. Catherine, again, showed herself to be a true horsewoman, putting the horse's health and well being above pocketbook or self. It could just be me, but I wouldn't feel as comfortable trying to get him back into the family who was trying to buy him before. Was he under their care when he colicked so badly? That isn't what would bother me so much, as accidents happen, horses get sick, despite our best care.I have a wonderful horse suffering from laminitis now with no known cause. No grain, she's not fat, she didn't get into anything, but she's got a mild fever. She has cost us, over, oh, $600 or $700 in the last few days in medical care and she's not out of the woods yet. (Now I'm getting to what troubles me about giving him back to this family). We all know that the cheapest part of horse ownership is the initial purchase. If they could not afford his medical attention this time around, what will happen if he becomes sick or injured again. And are they experienced horse people? If not, will they be able to afford his training? Just some stick-in-the-mud questions I have about what would become of the horse. That all having been said, I would still gladly buy some raffle tickets just to help defray Catherine's costs. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Very Nice Young Gelding For Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have a coming 3 year old gelding for sale. His bloodlines include superior athletes on both sire and dam side. He has wonderful movement and personality. Polo is ready to start training. He will make a great riding horse. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Reflex
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/2/2007 9:28:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What has not yet happened is installation of a new reflex that overrides the fetal-position reflex when a horse moves suddenly underneath me. Someone suggested sitting on a rubber ball and having someone kick it suddenly, which requires you to readjust your balance. Any suggestions? I want to get beyond the reflex that involves doubling forward and yanking on horse's mouth. That's a hard one. Muscle memory is tough to overcome. My head learned, long before my body could respond, that if a horse does something unexpected, it is far safer to sit back and down and you are less likely to tumble if you just sit a little deeper and sit straight. It helps to not look down, and your shoulder exercises should help too. Abdomenal work will also help keep your core straight. Even though I have found this effective and it does work, on the odd occasion, while I don't do the fetal thing anymore, I have to work on not standing in my stirrups! My quickest reflex is to put some weight in my toes. Maybe riding without stirrups for a while will take away that reflex!!! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #276
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/3/2006 11:21:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That was great, especially the "airs above the ground"!Jean Gayle You mean the "Magic Floating Pony" picture, as a friend in Ireland has named it? Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Myspace Video
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just want to get some holiday spirit going here. We had snow on the ground last week for just a couple of hours. Enough to make the ponies ecstatic. I took some pics and put them to music on Myspace. If you want to see some happy fjords, check it out: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=117256062 Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fjords similar to Lipizzans.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/1/2006 5:18:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A couple of weeks ago people were trying to come up with a comparison of Fjordhorses to other breeds. Mike had suggested they move like Quarter Horses. Other breeds were mentioned. -- Try as I might I couldn't come up with a good comparison. -- But, now Vanessa Weber has the answer with the Lipizzan breed. Of all the various breeds, I believe Lipizzans are the most similar to Fjords. I don't know why I didn't think of Lipizzans as I've used that comparison myself over the years. My dressage instructor owns, trains and breeds lipizzans. (Website is www.classicaldressage.com of anybody is interested in reading his site). Quite often in the middle of a lesson, he'll have me stop and flex my horse's poll, saying that fjords are quite like the lipps, and it is more difficult to get them supple at the poll than a warmblood or an arab. He often points out the similarities in training both breeds during our lessons. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re:Mountain Trail Event
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/12/2006 8:31:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will keep you posted on the outcome after everything is over. I sure would encourage more of you to participate in this event. It is certainly a terrific venue to show off the Fjord disposition that we all love. Several months ago I contacted the people who run this. I don't want to compete (yet) but wanted to do the course anyway. They told me that after the competitions, the course will be open for riding the next week (or weekend?) I may drive down with Juniper and Pandora just for fun. If it goes as well as I think, we may compete next year. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #252
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/9/2006 11:01:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do you keep them in stalls, anyway? My Fjords live outside in a very large corral with a run-in shelter. They move around a lot more and I think are healthier. I have never had a case of thrush, even when we have had long periods of wet, muddy ground. AND I don't clean their feet regularly, as I believe that the dirt packed into the foot protects it, where as digging out the crevices may cause damage. of course if they ARE kept in a stall with shavings or pellets,manure and urine, you do have to clean the feet out regularly. Moving around , walking a lot, and running and playing cause the feet to naturally clean themselves to some extent. They are kept in stalls because we live in Oregon. They get turnout in our pastures, but if I left them out full time they'd be fat and laminitic. Their stalls have turnouts attached. My point wasn't that there was a problem with my horsekeeping. They've been fine, healthy and happy for years. Their feet only became bad when we switched from shavings to pellets. Now that we're back on shavings, the feet are starting to harden up and be good the way they have always been. I also think it's important to check and clean a horse's foot daily, regardless of if they are inside or outside. JMO, but it's always worked for me. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #252
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/9/2006 11:01:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always wanted to try pellets, but instead I " potty trained " my horses. Nobody does their business in their stalls, except one of 3 stallions, who insists on peeing in front of his stall door.requiring us to put a wee bit of shavings there. Everyone else thats stalled is on mats, with a quick sweep each day to keep nice and perfect. Out back in their paddocks, which they have 24 / 7 access to..they all have their pile which gets cleaned down to dirt daily. Only our gelding likes to go outside. You are lucky. :) Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #251
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/8/2006 12:19:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which brand do you use? We used Noah's Ark, ABM (advanced bedding management) and Barn Dry, depending on what our feed store had in stock at the time. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re:Heads Up On Pellets
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/8/2006 12:19:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use pellet bedding in the stalls here and have never had this problem. The one thing I will say is that there are pellets, and there are pellets... Some brands are definitely not up to snuff. I'm wondering if it is my line of fjords. They're all daughters or grandsons of Juniper. Maybe there is some chemical composition in their urine or their hooves that cause this problem. There has been no problem at all with the QH. We used what was supposed to be pretty good quality pellets, and cleaned stalls twice a day religiously, picking feet daily and still had this problem. I don't think many people will have this problem. But if there is one person out there, doing everything right and still getting thrushy feet, just wanted to point out that they may want to think about this. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Heads Up On Pellets
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not everybody will have this problem, not even many people will have this problem, but one or two of you may, or I may be the lone soul who has had to deal with this issue. Here's a little heads up just in case somebody else does. I sent one of my horses out to a phenomenal horseperson and was happy with how the horse came back. Horse was home for 2-3 days and we pulled the shoes. The whole barn reeked of thrush. It was awful. It was weird though, and not obvious till after shoes were pulled, I want to be clear that nobody could have known the horse was so riddled with thrush. It didn't make any sense to me how the horse could have such bad thrush after being left in really good hands. And I have been trying to figure it out ever since. I finally figured it out. All of our horses have had great feet, no thrush, no problems. When this horse came home, both the farrier and the vet recommended, among other treatments, that we switch to bedding pellets as they'd keep the stall drier. So we switched ALL of our horses over. Pellets were cool, economical, easy to use. And I noticed that even over the dry summer (bone dry with temps up to 108 degrees!) all of our fjords feet were not as healthy as they had been, and the horse with the initial problem was not clearing up as it should have. It came to a head last month when Juniper's right front foot started to look very weepy and wet and unhealthy. I wracked my brain thinking "our horses have always had healthy feet. What has changed". Bingo. The only thing that changed was the bedding, going from pine shavings to pellets. The pellets, when broken down, seemed to cling more to the foot, even when given a good cleaning. The shavings, even when wet, let more air in, and when the foot was cleaned, ALL of the shavings were removed, not like the pellets that left tiny particles of shavings behind. We switched about 2 weeks ago back to shavings and our horses feet have stopped deteriorating and have been making some improvements. None of my friends, my farrier, vet or the shavings company had ever heard of problems with pellets. But all my fjords had problems. My QH, no problem regardless of the bedding. I'm chalking this up to "live and learn". The pellets were so much easier to use and more economical, but they just weren't right for my particular little herd. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris 2 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Being Ready To Get Another Horse After A Loss
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/10/2006 3:36:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, how do you know and how do you get over the fear? I had the same experience with my Arabian as the lady you discussed with her Arabian. I lost my first horse in an untimely manner and I was asked a month later to look at a foal. I was in no way ready or interested, as my heart was broken. But I went anyway, to get my friend off my back. :) When I saw the colt, my heart stopped for a moment or two. It was instant love. I have never had a better horse than that little Arab, although Juniper is just as good, in a completely different way. If you are ready to look now, feel free to look and meet horses, but do not feel obligated. If you don't feel ready, don't go. When I lost my second Arabian, I couldn't bear to own another horse for nearly 10 years. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #194
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/1/2006 2:17:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, I want to thank all of you who have sent kind thoughts and concern about His Majesty. Your support is much appreciated. I think of Digest folks as one of my communities, especially at times like this. Unfortunately, the tissue samples came back and do not show any abnormalities or bugs. So it's back to the black $ hole tomorrow. He definitely has something going on with his airways, but that doesn't explain his stiffness when moving. He also is not eating well. Yes, he is a full-blooded Fjord It really scared me when the internal medicine doc told me she'd line up a surgeon to look at him also. No, no, no! This time, I'm taking a book. Hmmm I'm sure they've already checked for epm? More good thoughts being sent for him. He was on my mind first thing this morning when I flipped my calendar to September, and there he was. Such a handsome boy! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Crossbred
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/5/2006 11:59:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was as well asking a question"is it any ones business?" I understand the whole no cross breeding thing I never ment to upset any one.. it was just a simple question...I see now that it fell on a very senstive subject..I just think that if someone is doing this you should talk to them about it what good does it do to talk about it here if they are not a part of the conversations?mary Asking is a good thing. And you really should have received a thoughtful response, but I think because the issue has been brought up here many many many times, folks get a little testy. Here's my thoughts (simple as they are) about not crossbreeding fjords. Some of the thoughts were my own, others were things other people have written that makes good sense. My own thought: When I bought my first fjord in New Mexico, my farrier really wanted to breed his arabian stallion to her. I do love arabians (my first two horses were great arabs) but can you imagine a fjord body on arab legs? It would not be responsible. I have heard of some arab/fjord crosses that were lovely, but why take a chance? What I've learned on this list is that sometimes a crossbred fjord is thought of as a purebred by the unknowing novice looking to buy a horse. The horse could look mostly like a fjord, be advertised a fjord and NOT have a fjord temperment. So the person has a rough time with the horse, and starts saying that fjords are mean, rude, pushy, bad tempered, spooky or whatever. The whole fjord world is then painted with the same brush when it could easily have been the other contributing breed to the cross that made it a bad actor. Hope this made sense to you. I'm sure others can give you more reasons, after they take some deep breaths!!! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Daniella
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:31:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My two remaining Fjords, Hannah and her colt Gren, will miss her. I will miss her. I'm still numb in shock at this moment, but it's starting to seep through my nerves and heart that she is gone. Please remember, latches on all grain storage bins. I welcome your thoughts, and any memories you have of my brave, funny Winnie. And if you pray, I'd welcome prayers for me in my mourning. Rhonda, I cannot tell you how sorry I am for you. I'm saddened also. Your girl was almost my horse. She and Juniper were for sale at the same time. I was charmed by Wendy, it's my niece's name and the mare left her foal to follow me around. Juniper was still pregnant and was very aloof (turns out you have to earn her love and respect). Both horses were exactly what I was looking for and I could not make up my mind. Ginny kept telling me that Juniper would suit me better because she'd also be for my special needs son. But my heart kept going back to Wendy. Finally one day Ginny told me I MUST make up my mind she had other buyers looking for horses, and because of what she said, I chose Juniper, who I've been very happy with (she now has Cushings which we are treating). I do love my Juniper, but it wasn't love at first sight. Your Wendy/Winny/Daniella stole my heart the moment I met her. Things happen. We do our best with our ponies but sometimes they leave us before we are ready. I'm sorry she left you so soon.s Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #143
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/29/2006 3:30:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I found your information interestingnot offensive, irritating or suggesting we encourage folks to breed their mare to any ole' tailswisher. Same here. It gives one pause for thought. I do try to breed as far from my mares' genetics as possible, but I may go even deeper into the pedigrees now. Thank you for posting it. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re:Hostar
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/2/2006 11:56:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am so very proud to be able to present this horse again to the public because I think he earned it - he earned the right by virtue of his history - and all that he has done and can do. He does not deserve to be forgotten - he is one of a kind, and in my opinion a great, great horse. I adore this stallion and have a red dun daughter in our barn. At the lesson barn we go to (where they have a couple fjords of their own) she is admired greatly. She is very different looking than my other horses. Very distinct, but so beautiful, so smart and very thoughtful. You can see the wheels turning in her brain. Give Hostar a hug for me and a great big thank you for passing on his wonderful genes. :) Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
re: thank you
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/1/2006 7:35:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She does lateral work fairly well, if you give her enough room and time, but I can't say it excites her. So far we are just walking, but she seemed a lot more willing. We just worked for 15 min, but will go for more time. The horse should respond immediately to the aid. In a nice, crisp manner. Juniper would want to take her time too, and she would not energize if I let her. If she doesn't respond immediately to the leg aid, the dressage whip is laid on her (not laid on as in beat, but laid up against right behind my leg). If she does not respond, a vibration of the whip. Even the laziest horse gets a clue soon enough! Once you have the crisp response to asking for lateral work, you will most likely find that your horse does indeed get energized. Especially, at least for us, turn on forehand in motion! During a solid hour ride, Juniper will revert to her low-keyed nature frequently and I remind her that she gets to graze green pasture, gets fresh hay, clean water, regular grooming, consistent vet and hoof care, and the least she can do for me is give me an hour a day when I ask! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re:Ringwork
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/29/2006 8:29:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There must be some other way. She is a dominate mare and she doesn't want to do ring work and I can't figure out how to make her. She is a little like the 800 lb gorilla - she sits where she wants to! (except she is more like 1100 lbs) But we have worked through our other issues, stepping on me, trailer loading, going through trail obstacles and she has come to trust me somewhat and do what is required. But she sees no sense in ring work at all. It could be that you are shouting at her so loudly with your aids that she is tuning you out. Just a guess and I could be very wrong. But I found that when I refined my aids more, Juniper, who is very laid back, began listening to me more. But she would still be very mellow and a bit like your horse. She takes every opportunity to relax! If it's not your aids, lateral movements work really well to energize a phlegmatic horse. Start with a sidepass, one way, then the other. Ride a circle. Then do 2 sidepasses each direction. Your horse will start to wake up. If she won't do this with you, have somebody on the ground support your request. Turn on the forehand in motion gets Juniper going very forward. After a little lateral work I have a very different horse underneath me, one that feels full of fire and is very forward (yet calmly paying attention, I do not make her crazy, just wake her up). If your horse is not paying attention to one side of your aids, maybe running through them, stop and have the horse sidepass away from this side. One of the lessons I have learned in the past few years is you must make a hot horse relaxed, and a phlegmatic horse a bit hot, you get them to that nice middle place where they are alive, alert and listening to you and it is a wonderful place to be. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
I didn't bring my camera
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/21/2006 12:08:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok Pam, PLEASE tell us that someone has a video of this!! I would be willing to pay for the video and postage!!! Your description was fabulous and very visual, but I would love to have a video, even a video that might be a little dark or did not 'catch' all the action...let us know, someone HAD to have had a video. :>)) I knew I forgot SOMETHING when I left home to go to the Expo, and it was my camera! I don't know how I could have forgotten it, but I've been thumping myself for forgetting. It certainly was one of the most entertaining acts I have seen in a long time. I'd like to know where you can get chariots like those used. Catherine, did you build those, or buy them? I was intrigued. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Oregon Horse Expo
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just came back from the Horse Expo, and even though I'm a tad prejudice, the fjords ruled! They followed a Tennesee Walker drill team that seemed to go on forever. Then a little Darth Vadar came in and kidnapped the Walker ringmaster, tied up and all and took her out of the arena. Then in came a fjord being driven by an Ewok with a little spaceperson behind ski jjoring (sp?). There was a ramp that the little spaceperson jumped a couple of times. Then out they went (to a fair amount of applause, considering the audience who were mostly quiet for most of the presentations). Then came in two chariots, one white, one black. The white one had Princess Leah and the other had Darth Vadar and his captive Tennessee Walker person. The Princess attempted rescuing the captive, and then suddenly nobody cared what happened to the captive because two of the most adorable foals galloped onto the scene. OMG, there were tears in my eyes, they were so precious! Real scene stealers. Catherine, I hope to win little Tulepin! Wow. What a sweetie. Finally peace was restored to the galaxy as the Walker person was rescued, the foals were captured and all exited. It was a phenomenal show. I loved the t-shirts, "Star Fjords". Loved the act. And adored the foals!!! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #35
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/13/2006 1:54:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, Yahoo does maintain limited archives for free for the lists which are run through their servers. This list will never be moved to Yahoo for many reasons having to do with privacy and uncertainty what tomorrow's contract with Yahoo will be. I did find an obscure Web page dated at the end of last October that eScribe was working on technical problems and would be back up some time in the future. Gotcha. It makes sense, as driving back from getting some horse supplements I was listening to OPB. They were saying that Yahoo in China had given personal information to the Chinese government and the people who were posting anti-government emails were arrested for sedition. One given 8 years, one 10. NOT that that is an issue in the U.S., but it is unnerving to have a server do something like that. Wonder how far into the future Escribe is looking! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2006 #34
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/12/2006 12:28:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So how about it? If you want archives find me another free archive service. I don't know if it's free or not, but the Classical Dressage list and the Lipizzan list (don't ask!) are on Yahoo and you can get archives. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: [OregonNFH] Savannah Home :-) / Raffle Help PLEASE
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/16/2005 8:54:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The gelding is a very nice put together colt. He is out of my mare Lupin who is very performance talented and the full brother to our stallion. The person that wins this gelding will be VERY HAPPY. He is quality in every sense of the word. I am not as good as others in fluffing up my breeding talents… but this colt will place well in conformation and in performance once trained. He is just a yearling and he does anything I ask him to do as a yearling. I've got my seven tickets sold already and could possibly sell more if you want to send me some. I could probably, maybe go to my local tack store with a poster and ask if they'd sell some tickets. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: drop + roll
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/11/2005 7:39:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Out on a trail ride we came to a nice warm, sandy spot + my stallion once tried to roll w/ me aboard - one time only. And my reaction, just like any horse dropping in water as well is: "put the pedal to the metal"! He got as far as his knees then decided if he was to remain in my good graces he'd better get his ass up off the ground. Never happened since. LOL, my Holly gets very itchy when she's working. Juniper knows that after a good ride she gets a treat. Holly wants to roll. Normally she waits patiently till saddle & bridle are off, but once she tried going down with me on her. I found out I have quick reflexes! Another time I had warmed her up, but was standing beside her waiting for my instructor to finish up another lesson. She decided to roll then. Luckily she listens when I tell her no. She's beginning to get the idea that she has to wait for me to tell her it's okay. Stay tuned. :) Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Fjord List?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just checking in to see what's up. I get the list in digest form and haven't seen a digest today. Have tried to log into the archives and Escribe seems to be down. If anybody gets this message can you give me a heads up? I'm wondering what is going on, if Escribe is down for the count permanently or if this is just a glitch. Or is it a glitch with MY computer? I seem to be able to get onto other websites with no problem. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #185
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/17/2005 10:12:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I currently have a mare that has not shed out this year. I am still looking for answers. The Vet though maybe thyroid, but she hasn't responded to treatment. I don't know what I will do next. It will good to hear how you make out with you horse. Same here with my best mare. :( Just got off the phone with the vet and blood showed infection, probably in her intestine and liver enzymes are elevated, probably as a result of the infection. Also a potassium imbalance which we are going to really follow up on. I thought pre-Cushings or possibly thyroid, but was wrong. If it's a simple infection, I will be HAPPY because the antibiotics should work. If there is something else going on... stay tuned. Hope this helps you figure out your horse a little too. At least it's something to discuss with your vet. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Gene Pool
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gayle wrote: """Yes, I guess you did miss the point I was trying to make, but I think Amy answered for me. Thanks, Amy. Once again, this was a long time ago before most folks in the Fjord world were even thinking about the big picture - the fact that the Fjord population was relatively small as was our gene pool. As I said earlier, it had to start somewhere and that was my feeble attempt of ONE to protect the future of our Fjords in this country.""" I was a bit confused also, but somebody else asked the question and the answers were very good, clear and helped me understand. And I commend you on what you are doing, as the owner of a young Dusty gelding, for your forward thinking. Your point struck close to home as I was reading the Lippizan list this morning (I would love to own a Lip one day along with my fjords). There are some horses in dire straits in Merced Ca. It's a pretty ugly situation and confusing. BUT one of the ladies spoke up about the stallions (who haven't been outside of their stalls in three years, can you imagine?) when somebody recommended gelding them. They're from a relatively rare stallion line and she thinks they shouldn't be cut for many reasons, the main one being that the other stallion lines have pretty much saturated the Lipizzans in the U.S. and the gene pool is limited. The stallions who need rescue can make a contribution to their breed. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Pony Sausage
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/7/2005 9:32:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Truth be known folks, that in Norway, if a Fjord doesn't pass muster, he is on your breakfast plate as sausage. Oh Gayle, you just made me laugh. It is almost exactly what my dressage instructor said when Holly was being very difficult a few weeks back, that in Germany if a horse doesn't come 'round, they end up in the sausage. Remind me, on my next trip to Europe I never order sausage. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Trailer For Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We bought a nice 3 horse slant a few months back and are selling our perfectly servicable 2 horse straight load (but for a fjord, it is better to take out the center divider and use it as a 1 horse). It's older, a 1980 model, but in very good shape with just a little bit of rust here and there. Floor was replaced about 2 years ago, mats, padded walls. Asking $1500 for it, and it is definitely worth the price. We're just outside of Portland, Oregon. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Scary Parades Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #148
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/5/2005 10:16:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parades are for sure, the most scary, dangerous horse related things you can do. I moved to UT and LOVE it hereBUT. LOL!!! THANKS A LOT LISA!My posse has been trying to get me to be in a parade for over a year now. And I decided I'd try the one on the 19th in Sherwood. Oh well, at least it is a small parade, and Juniper is mostly pretty sensible. ~gulp~ But I was nervous enough already before reading this Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: FINALLY! -- Fjords are out there at open shows - Dressage & others
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carol wrote: Isn't this great? That finally the Fjords are getting recognized for what they can do. -- I'm glad I lived long enough to see it. I was beginning to wonder if it would ever happen. But, guess what? -- This acceptance by dressage judges and beginning acceptance by riders is exclusive to North America. It is NOT happening in Europe. In Europe Fjords are still looked at as chubby, plodding ponies. This wasn't a huge show I went to, but a couple weeks ago I went to my first show ever. It was a local dressage show. I tried to have enough time to do everything, but with a special child in my life, I had a few delays. I just barely started warming Juniper up and my number was called. Reviewing the video of the performance, I could see that the lack of warm up really showed as far as my own position. But Juniper was alert, happy and responsive to me. My patterns weren't the best, as I had not practiced the test more than a couple of times, and I cut a couple of corners, but we still came in third. Our second ride was better and we got even higher marks. I can imagine how she'll do when we've got more experience under our belts/girths and when we have time to warm-up. The people I showed against are very dedicated to the art of Classical Dressage, and they had a variety of horses at various stages. What was endearing is that they'd all be walking by with serious looks on their faces and then they'd see Juniper and it was like the sun breaking through the clouds. They'd all get this delicious grin on their faces when they looked at her, and we received lots of comments on how cute she is and how well she did at her first show. When I saw my riding instructor the following week, he told me that everyone he talked to was very impressed with her. I was never interested in showing now, but when you are riding a fjord, it can be a fun experience! The ribbons are secondary. The adventure is primary! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Rodeo Queens
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] They must raise their rodeo queens differently in Utah than they do in Oregon!We had a statewide mounted S&R training a couple weeks ago at Silver Falls (in the rain, of course :/). When we left, I stopped by a grocery store to get supplies for Raymond, my respite provider and myself. There were 3 youngsters in all their Rodeo Finery by the door selling tickets. I told them that I'd give them a donation on the way out, when I knew how much cash I had left to spare. The mom and I chatted a bit about Mounted Posse, and she wanted to join. I asked the girls what kind of horses they had and they chirped "Paint!", "QH", "Appy". And they asked what I had. They about melted out of their rhinestones when I said fjords. They oohed and aahed about how cute they were. :) They were sweet kids and a credit to the world of horses! Maybe there are more fjords out here than Utah and that's why these little girls needed no convincing that fjords are cool. Or maybe their momma just raised them right. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re:Grooming
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/6/2005 4:53:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . And nothing seems to work on detangling his tail. Any suggestions. Thank you, Onna The owner of the local tack store swears by a mane & tail detangler called "Canter". I tried it and it IS pretty good. But the best I have found anywhere is called Survivor. You put a little bit on your hand, work it into the tail and the most tangled tail basically unravels under your fingers. Great stuff. A tad spendy, but a little goes a long way. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Kanada King Deceased????
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/22/2005 3:53:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Malcolm Locke is the full brother to two other well-known stallions - BDF Kanada King (deceased) and BDF Obelisk, owned by Starfire Farm. -- OMG. Is this true? He should be in the prime of his life now. I had no idea. When did this happen? He was a truly beautiful horse, and I'm unhappy to hear of his demise. I hope he is happy and content in the next world. :( Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Iron Jaw
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Question. How can I start working with her to change this behavior and don't tell me to get another horse as she is mine only one. I realize that this is herd behavior, but I would think that her jaw would be so numb after all the pressure from the curb chain and so on. Need ideas and I am not surprised that my shoulders and back aren't complaining about this over time.<< When Juniper has gotten strong with me, I was taught to work on lateral movements. Each ride it seems she starts out stiff on the left rein. Riding turns on the haunches, sidepassing, leg yielding and milling REALLY help. After 5-10 minutes (at the most) she's soft, yielding and pliant. It might be a bit more difficult to do lateral stuff on trails, but maybe shoulder-in would help to keep her from leaning on you? Check out www.Classicaldressagejournal.com and look at the article about flexions from the ground (written by my instructor). It's the second article about flexions and I've found flexing my horses' polls before a ride does help to soften them up. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Gjest
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/7/2005 7:32:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I make no apologies for the superlatives -- This horse deserves every single adjective. Carol, I think you have a lovely stallion who is a credit to his breed. I've seen a few of his offspring and most of them I would love to have in my barn! There was only one that I question temperment, but I believe that is probably due to being mishandled (just my opinion) by people after he left your place. The rest were both beautiful and well behaved. You do a lot to promote the breed. Your enthusiasm for your horses is overwhelming (in a good way). I learned from Juniper how easy it is to be enchanted with the wonderfulness of a good fjordhorse. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re:Oregon Gold
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All right all you western states Fjord owners, it's getting close to show time and we are so far seeing a serious lack of Fjord entries coming in. Please! Plan to come and join us at our 5th annual show here in central OR. We have lots of Fjord only classes as well as open classes and a WHOLE DAY of driving classes - including a few classes for multiples! If anyone needs info please Email me at my personal address below & I can send the class list & entry forms to you by Email. Hope to see lots of Fjords there this year Amy, I'm planning on going, but will be registering there. I hope there are still stalls available! This will be my first show in 30 years, and even then it was just a little Arab halter class I was in. I need to get GOOD directions to the show. Yahoo maps has it being a 3 hour drive from Hillsboro to Prineville. I found out what is acceptable wear for a halter class, but for Green Horse and Novice Rider (English), what color breeches are acceptable? Can I wear black? Or Tan? I tell you this is ALL NEW to me! I'm bringing Juniper, and she's doing wonderfully at home. But I have a feeling this is going to be a bit confusing for both her and me. You may all laugh while we're riding, and I won't mind. This is a learning/schooling situation for us, and while I'll turn out my horse and myself as best as possible, and we'll do our best job riding, we're bringing our senses of humor with us. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Birth Announcement
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/14/2005 7:54:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are proud to announce the arrival of PPS Meera-cle. She IS a miracle. At 8:20 this morning, our mare Troika (bred to Misha) went into labor. The bubble appeared, but no feet...nothing. Finally I saw a hoof. The baby was on its back in the birth canal. Working against the clock, I got the second leg and started pulling. Having to pull UP instead of down. 0840 little Miracle was lain gently on the ground. Mother and baby doing fine. CONGRATULATIONS! She was considerate to wait till a decent hour to give birth to the baby. I have a Misha daughter (her birthday is today also, by the way!) and she is wonderful, elegant and beautiful. May your little Meeracle be the same. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #81
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations on making your local Posse, Lisa. It's fun to be part of one of these groups. We've found that the things that spook the other horses don't faze Juniper one tiny bit. But she does take note of the "bad actor" horses and really wants to avoid them! I think she's taking care of me. But she is learning that sometimes we still have to ride with the bad actors and she has to trust that I will take care of her as well. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Got The Herald
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is very different looking, but very nice. :) The minutes sure do seem to be missing. A start-up problem I'm sure. But it is beautiful and professional. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Did Anybody Get Their Fjord Herald Yet?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just checked the archives and Mike sent an email saying they were mailed out on the 9th. I'm checking the mail daily for it and still nothing. Just wondering if it's just taking its time, or if somehow I got skipped. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: intuition
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The next time you hit a brick wall (not literally) with your horse, stop and think and listen to your gut feelings - I bet some of you may find you have the answers all along. Yes indeed. I actually have two dressage instructors. One is pretty darned good, the other is phenomenal. When I was taking a lesson with the PDG one, my horse became balky. She asked me to KICK my mare, but I felt that would have polarized us more and led to more problems. I didn't know at the time what I was doing, but felt it was rider error. I said I wouldn't kick, and instead turned the mare and asked her to move forward. Immediate compliance. The next week I went to the phenomenal trainer's barn with the horse, and told him what the problem was. He wanted to watch me ride to see what was going on. First he watched the horse being lunged and noted that she really pounded her right fore into the ground as she went. When I got on, I found my old habit of leaning slightly forward comes back when I am the slightest bit nervous. I asked the mare to go forward while leaning on her stiff leg. And she resisted. Poor thing is sensitive and was probably confused that how could I ask her to move that leg when I was blocking it! So I really really listen to the instructors when they speak. And usually do what they say. But once in a while my inner self screams "WRONG". And I refuse (only once with the phenomenal trainer) and find out later that I was reading my horse absolutely correctly. There is a lot to be said for intuition and just listening to what your horse is trying to tell you. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Update: Dressage Magazine
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just had an interesting lesson at my instructor's barn this morning (young horse, very fresh, possibly in season). We were talking about the Classical Dressage Journal and he said that for some reason the first issue (at this point the ONLY issue!) is online. So anybody who wants to read about The Role of Flexions In Classical German and Austro-Hungarian Dressage (and other great articles) you can find it at: http://www.classicaldressagejournal.com/articles/index.html If the link doesn't come through, just type in ClassicalDressageJournal.com and look for articles and index. Great stuff there! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Lori - Cantering
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Patti Jo. And sorry everyone if my cantering message came across as a rant. It came across with a lot of vehemence that I didn't intend. I think I need to stay away from the computer on the day before my period, those hormones can turn into weapons! It wasn't taken here as a rant at all!!! It was a very well thought out, timely email. There ARE several roads to Rome, as you say. I was surprised when I found out that Juniper had not been cantered at all when I bought her, and didn't even know what it was! We had fun teaching her. :) And I think she even has fun learning. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
re: new owner advice
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am stalling him at night until spring comes for my old guys sake. I have had him just a week, I have fed "copy" free choice grass hay all day in the field and a generous portion again in his stall at night, i am giving him 1/4 of a plastic horse scoop of 12% pellet (Prime). He is pleasantly plump but not obese (YET!) I know this is an issue with Fjords from lurking here on the list most of you comment on your chubbies. I will not be riding or working him until Fall since i am 5 mos pregnant now. Any comments are welcome. First I'd like to congratulate you on your upcoming baby! Then on your getting your first fjord!!! About the feeding, if I fed my fjords like that, they'd be happy little piglets.. until they exploded I've had to remind my husband over and over again that he can NOT feed our fjords like regular horses. It is killing them with kindness. Finally I think I have gotten through to him and he is more sensible with the feed than he used to be. We've got about 2 acres set up for the horses (the rest needs to be fenced) and they really eat that down, just on two hours a day! That is ALL they get as far as pasture. Unless it is late summer and it is brown and dry, they can stay out for 3-4 hours. And have their hay cut back a bit. The way things work for us, and I still have to be certain that I keep them well exercised is like this: A thin flake of grass hay in the morning. Then they have to wait a couple hours before they are turned out on the pasture. A couple hours pasture, then into the barn. And the horses that I'm going to exercise are exercised. Brush them, and then give them MAYBE a half a flake of hay. Then they wait several more hours till dinner where they get a decent sized flake. I try to feed them as often as possible so we don't have to worry about ulcers. But try to keep their meals on the small side. We have cob for our QH mare who is not an easy keeper, and the fjords get a handful with their vitamins and Continuex. More for taste than anything. The growing horses get a little more. Maybe a cup or two. Maximum. Hope this helps you just a little bit. We all have different ways of horsekeeping, but this is what works for me. I'm sure others will have different systems that work well for them and their horses too. Have fun with your Copycat! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think some of you have hit the nail on the head. I have been taking dressage lessons for almost 3 years and I have learned that if the horse does not relax his jaw and bend at the pole, which causes him to raise his back up, you will get a rough ride, no matter what the breed. A horse has to learn to balance with the rider in the saddle. ++ Onna, you might be interested in a new magazine that is out. It's the Classical Dressage magazine. In the first issue it has a great article on flexing the poll from the ground, written by my instructor. For the time being the magazine is being piggybacked onto the Horse of Kings mag (Andalusians, Freisans and Lippizans) but it is very worthwhile. Fjords, at least my fjords, tend to have HUGE saliva glands which make it harder for the horses to flex properly. But it is well worth the effort to teach the horse to do so. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re Fjord Trot
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two references to a rough Fjord trot in one digest, but it was my understanding that the Fjord trot is not supposed to be rough at all! Can any folks who know a lot more than me elaborate on this? I thought the Fjordhorse is supposed to have a very smooth trot, much smoother than the average trotting horse, especially as it sped up - comparatively. If my fjords are any indication, a fjord trot can be MORE comfortable than a gaited horse! When I got Juniper she did have a bit of a jackhammer trot, and I posted a lot. But after many dressage lessons with an excellent instructor who taught me how to get Juniper to move more correctly (lots of transitions and lateral work) she has THE smoothest trot I've ever ridden. Fast, slow, working trot, she's super comfortable. The only time she gets jarring is if she lifts her head up and drops her back, and one would expect a jarring trot then. Her daughter Holly has an excellent trot also. I did have problems with Juniper's canter for a while. It was simply lack of balance. We're still working on getting the right lead consistently (more rider problem than horse problem) but she's gone from a disorganized, strung out canter to one that has my instructor (who owns Lippizans and Andalusians) saying that she has a BEAUTIFUL canter! And it feels so smooth and comfortable. So if any fjords out there have less than perfect gaits, they CAN be improved with properly gymnasticizing your horse. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Prejudice against Fjords??
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am currently in a barn with very down to earth people, many western, several dressage, all colors and breeds of horses and everyone loves Finne and thinks he is the cutest. I am very lucky, but I am no longer at a fancy dressage barn, which suits me just fine. I did take him to a 5 day dressage clinic and all the women with their hugh warmbloods or Andulsions liked him. I think the cute factor wins people over and then if they pay attention, they can see how versitile and talented the Fjords really are. Many people are even envious that I have a horse with good energy and work ethic, but who is not at all spooky or stupid. +++ The dressage barn where I trailer to lessons has a lot of Andies and Lippizans. My fjords really get fawned over. The trainers are some of the finest dressage trainers in the country, and Juniper was paid the ultimate compliment by one of them a couple weeks back. When I mentioned that her daughter, Holly is much more talented, but I love riding Juniper so much, she looked into my horse's eyes and told me that she really wished she had a horse like Juniper to give beginner's longe line lessons on. Juniper LOVES going to that barn because she is always told how cute and sweet she is, and they always have a treat or two for her. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Sonny & Parelli
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Beth, I'm glad to hear that you aren't giving up on Sonny. Parelli IS a good program, but sometimes you have to adapt it to your horse. Good luck finding a good trainer to come to you. There are some out there. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Sonny
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is home now and I work with him as often as I can with the weather being bad now. Today my husband and I worked with him. Sonny ran away from us because he was so strong we couldn't hold onto the rope while lunging him. We got him under control there, lunged some more until we felt he knew we were boss. I rode him next and he did okay but I could feel he wanted to run away. My husband said let me get on him, so he got on and Sonny took off and my husband slid off the side when Sonny rounded the corner. Here we have the problem, I don't mind keeping Sonny, never riding again, just letting him be a lawn mower and buddy to my other horse or should I sell him to someone who would use him to his full potential. There are people who say I am wrong to keep him and not use him. They say I am not being fair to him. What do you all think, it is a fact I am not going to do any more work on him. I will lunge him and walk him around but that is it. I am too old and I can not do it. I know I should have thought of that before I bought him but we are here now. Should I sell him or keep him? What is best for Sonny? Beth Knuth Don't despair. I see a few possible issues based on what you said. First, don't ever put yourself into a situation that you feel is unsafe, and if what I'm saying to you doesn't make sense for your situation, ignore it. Fjords have strong necks and if they want to set them against you, especially on a longe line, they can. I had some problems longeing a young fjord who knew her strength. First, do NOT use just a halter and a line. They can just tear away from you. I use cavessons, but the cavessons I had were way too gentle, very padded and it was nothing to pull away from me. I discussed the situation with my dressage trainer and he recommended I think it is called a Portuguese cavesson (if you are interested I will find the site and send it to you). It has no padding and if a horse decides to misbehave he/she punishes themself. To be fair, I don't want to punish a fresh horse just out of its stall that has pent up energy, so I allow some turnout time before longeing. Then when the cavesson is on, it is time for business. They learn pretty quickly that they cannot pull shenanigans on the longe line and you can then go forward with your lessons. Next, I wouldn't even attempt to ride the horse at all until it understood the basics on the longe. It just isn't safe. Even my very talented instructor won't get on a horse that is not safe. I don't know what style riding you are doing, but check out this website if you are interested (it's my instructor's site) www.Classicaldressage.com Even if you don't want to ride dressage, it is a good way to get any horse started for any discipline. He has a lot of great training articles there. When you had the horse at the trainer, did you ride under his/her supervision, so you knew what had been done with the horse, and what buttons he had installed in his training? Good luck, and I hope this was of at least a little help to you. Pamela
Temperment & Dusty
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way, that year, Johan, our gray stallion was Grand Champion Stallion and his grampa, Dusty, was Reserve Champion Stallion. A humbling experience for Dusty (giggle), but I wasn't complaining! - On a side note here, we've had a few fjord babies born at our barn, and all of them have been wonderful sweet characters. But of them all, the one with the most loving, sweet and beautiful disposition is the one sired by Dusty, our Polaris. If he stays with us, he'll be gelded within the next two months and I think he'll be the most wonderful trail horse, and a great dressage prospect in our barn. Juniper is the only one whose temperment compares with him. The others are good, but he is great! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2005 #44
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/20/2005 11:18:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a nutshell, she wanted you to sit on your TAILBONES, not your crotch. This, and of course moved your leg back and toes a bit outward.nothing like I have ever learned to do while riding. Anne is also into having saddles pretty far back, compared to how most of us are used to doing as well. You were supposed to find your horses withers, and also shoulder blades, then draw a line and place your saddle behind this lineallowing for more free forward movement. Hey Lisa, this is pretty common in my dressage training. You are to find not the tail bone, but your seat bones and sit on them. Sitting on the crotch gives you a fork seat and that is not where you want to be! I used to place my saddle way forward till I learned about the shoulder movement, etc. And I've found my horses DO move more freely if my saddle isn't sitting on their shoulder. I wouldn't worry so much about finding where the withers end as much as making sure you don't have the saddle on the shoulder. You should be okay then. Question about your SAR training. Are you doing this as part of an independent group, or is it with your local posse? I joined our posse over a year ago because I wanted to do SAR, but they didn't offer training. Had to go to a different county where they trained SAR, both on foot and horseback. This year our posse is now (finally) interested in getting trained for SAR. Yay! Won't have to drive an hour each way with horse to complete my training. :) Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Polo For Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I've advertised (albeit halfheartedly) once before on this list, and now (with the same mixed emotions) have put Polaris up for sale at Dreamhorse. If he doesn't sell soon, well, I'll just have to bite the bullet and keep him. :) He's a sweet and athletic colt. Very easy to be around, loves people and loves attention. He should be an easy one to train as he really wants to please. So if any of you are interested, let me know soon. As soon as I give up trying to sell him, he'll be gelded. I really don't need a stallion and all my mares are related to him anyway! He's reasonably priced, and he could do just about anything you put your mind training him to do, IMO. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: long, maybe boring, toot toot
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:42:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After seeing a few other horses in high anxiety mode, I noticed that Ayla was calm and very interested in getting out into the course. We warmed up doing some minor drill team type stuff, wheels, pairing off and doing formations and some crowd control " push's ". We were at the center of the arena when all 3 squad cars lit up their lights and sirens. Horses scattered a bit, some needing their riders to unmount and try to calm them, others just very snorty and up-headed. Ayla stood her ground and kept her feet in one place. : ) You are going to love this! I joined our local posse last year and Juniper is fantastic with most of the stuff. She doesn't really care for a couple yahoos who will be walking behind her then suddenly gallop right off from her, but other than that, she's cool. Especially around the lights/sirens, flares and all. We're doing the SAR training also. Our local county didn't offer it when I joined, so I went to the next county for SAR training, but now it looks like the local posse is going to include us in their SAR. So I won't have to make a 2 hour round trip drive to complete the training! After seeing a lot of the other horses, I'm convinced that fjordsare the perfect horse for the job! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Beaver Dam
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got a copy of Dressage Today and was pleasantly surprised to see some of Beaver Dam's horses, with a little paragraph about it. Well done Carol. I just wish the author had said a bit more about the fjords than "you'll fall in love with their temperment". She should have included their beauty, talent and charm! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #296
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/27/2004 4:30:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are moving to an area that has an unbelievable number of horses, with many Fjord horses in the region. It works well for us in a lot of ways. To answer a question that I have been asked - will this affect Camptown Harness? - the answer is no. It will travel with us, unchanged except when we can figure ways to improve the harness. Thanks for all the voices of support. We're a bit further south than you are, (just west of Portland) but are happy to have you on the Left Coast! Welcome. You'll love it here in the Northwest. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Mule & Mountain Lion
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/5/2004 3:53:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was on the CD-L, but I also got the pics from a friend. Don't mess with mules! I saw these pics at my posse meeting on Thursday. Very impressive. I'd have a healthy respect for that mule! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Volcano
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/2/2004 4:56:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone getting ash yet from our eruption? I am North of it so we may have escaped this time. Not a big eruption but ash clouds are drifting to the south west towards Portland. How well I remember the 1980 one where we thought we were to be another Pompeii. I had covered water troughs and put the horses in. Jean Gayle I'm 14 miles west of Portland and, knocking on wood, so far we're okay. The sky does remind me of when I lived in Los Angeles, a bit hazy, but other than that it's a beautiful day. We're at Stage 3 alert though, if it gets bad, the horses get locked in the barn with doors closed and we close all the windows to the house. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re:Knee problems and horse purchasing on hold
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/20/2004 2:55:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For now, I am still riding the horse I am leasing on alternate days as my knee needs a day of rest in between. Once I hear the final verdict on my knee, I will decide if buying a horse is a good or very bad idea at this time. Holy Moly, youre ortho is letting you ride I had a torn medial meniscus tear earlier this summer, it came out of the blue. I went to the ortho before I even considered getting on a horse and was told not to kneel, squat, jump on or twist the knee for a good month, and that if it wasn't better after a month, then surgery would be a good option. I took it very easy for that month. My husband did stalls for that month (the silver lining) and the knee is now near perfect. Just a bit of a slight twinge here and there, but nothing like the first week. NOT being a doctor myself, I'd still recommend NOT posting or squeezing with your knee for a while. You know that old joke, somebody goes to a doctor and says "doc, it hurts when I do this" and the doctor's answer is "don't do that!". Good luck to you! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Colt For Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have a fabulous 3 month old colt for sale. His bloodlines are the culmination of what I think are some of the very best fjordhorses in the U.S.A. His sire is Gayle's great reining stallion, Dusty. His dam is Holly who is the daughter of Misha and my Juniper (Juniper is my favorite horse in the world!). With these bloodlines it would have been hard to go wrong. And we didn't. He is a very athletic, just beautiful young colt. It will be hard to give him up, but I think he's got fabulous stallion potential. I'm not geared for stallions and even if I were, all my mares are closely related to him. So, anybody looking for a good natured, well put together, athletic colt, drop me a line. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re: Red Dun Genetics
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/6/2004 7:30:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For a foal to certainly carry the gene one parent *must* be red. I was quite surprised when my brown dun mare who had had nothing but brown dun babies and was bred to a brown dun stallion gave me a red dun two years ago! Surprised, and in the end pleased. I love all my brown duns, but this red dun filly seems to shimmer and appears nearly mythical. She's going to be a show stopper when she starts going out in the world on rides! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re T Shirt
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/27/2004 10:47:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: "Krist Martinsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know where I could get a t-shirt that has a Fjord and Cart on the front (no driver) and the saying "Driven a Fjord Lately)? The driver must have bailed out. Mine is worn out. Can't remember where we bought it, but I liked it and would like another. Krist I bought a similar one at the Libby Show in 2001, but it was "Have You Ridden A Fjord Lately?". Probably the same people sold it. Check with Betsy Bauer, I have a feeling she'd know. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
What Is An Iron?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/22/2004 6:59:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what is this thing called an iron? And who uses one in this day and age? :-) LOL, it's something my husband tinkers with. :)I don't have much familiarity with it. Once in a while I'll see that one of my son's Hawaiian shirts is all wrinkly, I pass the shirt to my husband and voila! A nice, crisp shirt. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Thanks For The Try Steve, And An Idea
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/21/2004 6:32:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got the separations from the original printer; when they bailed, they gave me the artwork. The problem has been finding a printer able to do a large run of high quality four color screens at a price comparable to the first company. I received my refund check several days ago also. Thanks Steve, and thank you for trying so hard to get these t-shirts done. Darned printers. There is a way we could still do these t-shirts, and it could be done with minimal muss or fuss I believe. If Steve or Pat would want to load the image onto their computer, and then send to those who want it, we could download the image and do iron-on transfers. They have the transfer papers at any Office Depot. We could all have our own t-shirts in whatever color, size, etc. that we wanted. While playing with ideas for a logo for our small ranch, I did a couple iron on transfers. It takes some practice though. You have to iron a bit harder and hotter than I'm used to. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
T-Shirt Refunds?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember a month or so reading that the money from the t-shirts would be out asap. I had ordered 2 of them and haven't received a check yet. Anybody else get theirs? Just curious, because I was under the impression that the refund would have been here by now. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Re Foal Birth/Death
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/28/2004 10:01:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Appreciate those normal births, and give your live foals a hug from me. I know I WILL. I'm so sorry. Sometimes things are out of your hands. I will give my 3 week old baby an extra hug indeed. Give your mare a lot of extra hugs and TLC. I feel so sorry for her, the way you described her nickering for a foal that never answered. :( Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris
Another Baby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We had our first colt, after 5 fillies, this Thursday. His mom is Holly, and his sire is Dusty. He already seems to want to live up to his dad's good name, as his sliding stops and spins are phenomenal at 2 days old! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Re: Fjords and Heat
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Myriam, My family drove through France in late August, early September of 1988, and I know how hot it can get, even in "normal" years! It gets pretty hot here in Oregon on occasion also. My fjords don't particularly care for it, but get by. I have stalls that are well-ventilated and I try to keep them cool. If you can hook up a misting system, that really helps sometimes, where you attach the mister to a hose. But it can also make your barn feel a bit swampy. I don't usually like fans in barns, as a friend of mine had her barn burn down (coincidentally at the same time I was driving through France) when her fans caught fire. But they do make some fans that are safe for barns. I know that the horses will get used to the heat if it last for some time, but two-three day heat waves are the pits for animals and humans alike! I remember driving through Toulouse and it was enchanting. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Re:A Star Is Born
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/25/2004 7:12:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A couple week later we got the news.Vesla was still pregnant! We could hardly believe it! Going through surgery and all. With Beth and Sandy's diligent care, Vesla was slowly healing. Her feet still hurt her some, but they assured us she IS getting better and better. When I talked with the veterinarian taking care of her, he told me they(Beth and Sandy) were doing more than most people could or would do to make this horse comfortable. This meant more work for Beth. Changing the pads on her feet, keeping the stall cleaned, getting the shavings, getting her feet trimmed. She told me she was going to be in this for the long haul. Taking the time to care for this horse, that wasn't even theirs, plus taking care of all their own horses at Starfire is an enormous amount of work. Congratulations on your baby. This story makes me appreciate that not only is Beth a phenomenal rider and trainer (I watched the Denver Stock Show tape and was mesmerized!) but she and Sandy are true horsewomen. The best compliment I can come up with! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #108
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/15/2004 8:03:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll wait until next Friday to give any change of addresses to get here, then I'll send everyone a refund. Sorry this couldn't work out. I'm sorry too, but that's the way it goes. For what it's worth, I'm glad that this subject came up, because I haven't seen any posts from you in a long time. Or maybe you've been back for a little while and I've not noticed because I've been so busy that I've just been skimming the digest? Whichever, it's nice to see that you are back. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Re:T Shirt
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/13/2004 9:05:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will add my voice to the cry. I ordered and paid for 2 Tshirts going on 2 years ago. I would like my money back. Valerie Pedersen Wow! It's been so long that I almost forgot about them. I'd kinda like my money back now too. For 2 t-shirts. But I'm not certain Steve is going to see this email. He's been MIA for so long, I don't really know if he even checks in any more. Cynthia? Can you help us out here? Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Merek's Address
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is his email addrss? Maybe we c;ould at least write personal emails to him. Also, can he go to the website and sign up there? check out the website: http://www.fjordhorselist.com/ I believe he has tried signing on at the website, but forwardd your email to him just in case. His email address (which I probably should have included when he lost Lars) is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know he would appreciate hearing from any of you who care to write, and he's particularly concerned about finding the right fjord. So if any of you have any horses for sale, I know he'd like to hear about them. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Merek
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what to do, but would like to help out a friend. As you know, Merek lost his beloved horse, Lars recently. He's bereft. And is really wanting the support of the fjord community, and wants to buy another pony. He's sent emails that have gone unanswered to try to get reinstated. I sent an email to you Cynthia, and I don't know if you got it or not. I never got an answer either. In the meantime, Merek is going through this time of crisis without the support that I know he could use from the wonderful members of this list. Is there anybody who can tell me what Merek needs to do to get signed up again here? I'll be happy to relay the information on to him. Thanks! Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Ginny
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/8/2004 12:26:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I also have a mare from Los Trigos, half sister to King Gjestar II (same > dam) her name is Heather. Also have a 2 year old Gelding by King Gjestar II > named Keswick. > Ginny still has about 14 fjords and 350 acres just not the thousands she > sold > to Kilmer. I visited with Ginny about 6 weeks ago and was very impressed by > the bronzes she had made of Fjords, a lady of many talents. > Ginny sold me the best horse I've ever had in my life. I thank her silently nearly every day for steering me towards Juniper. I was torn between her and another mare, and she helped me realize that Juniper would be the best match for me, and she certainly is. If you see her, could you tell her that Juniper is impressing those who she comes in contact with, including the finest dressage instructor I have ever met, and we most likely will be involved in Search & Rescue soon. Juniper also has two lovely daughters, that I keep meaning to send pictures of to Ginny. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Sad News From Merek
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember Merek, with his wonderful fjordhorse Lars? The one who went to parties and all sorts of wonderful places? I received the following email from him, and am so sad. He was a special horse. I know Merek would appreciate a bit of moral support about now. Here's his email: Lars died tonight at 10PM of a mysterious illness that started earlier today and seemed to improve after the vet gave him various supportive drugs in the afternoon. Around 8PM he suddendly took a turn for the worse, and I went out to meet the vet there. Within an hour it had gone so bad that he was down and convulsing and unable to rise, and I had to have him terminated. Please forward this to the list, as I have not rejoined it. Don't know if I will look for a replacement eventually, but will check with the list if I do decide to. Merek Pamela Northern Holiday Horses
Re: Fjords & Ground Manners
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Tamara, It seems just about any type of horse will dive for fresh green grass, if given the opportunity, and fjords maybe a little more so. I had a problem with this when somebody in my household (who shall remain nameless for this email!) would allow the horses to dive for grass. All it took for me to remedy the situation was to have a stern talk with the culprit who allowed this behaviour, and a couple short little jerks on the leadrope when the horses attempted this with me. Now all the horses, yearling included, are very well behaved. I certainly would not pass up on buying a horse because of this easy to fix habit. Yes, they have heavy necks, but doesn't make them more difficult to work with. If they want to set the neck against you, you do have to have the finesse to not let the horse think it can do it. What I've learned from Thomas Ritter, a great dressage instructor, is that you need to be precise with what you ask of a horse. When you ask it to do something, you need to expect the horse to comply. And if it doesn't immediately, ask again, a bit more firmly. If the horse still doesn't comply (but understands and is capable of complying) then the horse gets a reprimand. And then you can go right back to being friends with said horse again, after compliance or at least an attempt to comply. If the horse hates having something in its mouth, as the mare you looked at did, I'd get a dentist to see if there were tooth problems. If not, before worming time, I'd get the horse used to a syringe with molasses, applesauce or some other treat. You'll find the horse looking forward to the worming syringe. I don't exactly know what you meant about having to back the horse into a tie down area, but if the horse was resistant, I'd find out why. A lot of resistance you see in horses is owner-operator error. And did I see a lot of that the other day! Resistance and owner-operator error. I signed up to join the local mounted sheriff's posse, and had my first ride with them on Friday night. I was horrified by what I saw! The typical "yahoo" attitude, okay, I guess I could get around some of that. The riders didn't have very good arena etiquette, but what really got me was the lady on the 3 yo QH. It was crowhopping, spooking, bolting, etc. Anything to get away from the rider. The rider thought the best way to deal with this was to crank the standing martingale tighter. So the horse tossed her head even more. Which made the rider SLAP the side of the horse's face. Oh woe! This happened more than once. I then found out that this terrorist rider had taken the same horse (that she raised from a foal) to the same arena as a yearling, and let a 7 year old child race around the arena on it Let me tell you, Friday night was a real rodeo, and I'm not sure how well I'll fit into this group. But my fjord was stellar, and even better than I expected. She looked as horrified as I was, and I could feel her tense up under me, as people galloped as fast as they could right on us, horses were screaming (the one with the tie down), people were getting bucked off. I just went about my regular routine with her, getting her soft and supple, and got her to focus on me. She then realized that I was indeed in control, and I wouldn't let anything happen to her. We didn't do our best work, with all the distractions, but we both buckled down and practiced our dressage lessons. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Re: Fjord Saddles
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/27/2003 6:08:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > For those of you still on the fabulous fjord saddle fitting quest, I > just wanted to fwd this post by Laurie Neely (below). It appeared on the > CDList today. What a small world it is! I got that same post on a private email group the other day! A lady in the group, who just bought a fjord cross (and is thrilled with it) just bought a Duett saddle. It fits her cross and her Arabs. She's quite pleased. When I'm in the market for another saddle, I'll look into these myself. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Re: Feral, Mustangs
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/19/2003 10:19:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bait &switch? > > Before we were talking about feral horses &donkeys. Now we are talking about > keiger mustangs. Different story. > No, no, no. Not bait & switch. As far as I know, the feral horses in question are indeed commonly known as mustangs. Kiger is just the best of the bunch. However, I've seen some pretty nice mustangs that were not Kigers. Great hooves, legs, pretty nice heads and very nice movers, in general. If it weren't for finding fjords I would have bought a mustang. The mustangs had what I wanted. I've heard different about where mustangs came from than you have heard. I heard that they were Spanish horses that got loose over the years and turned feral. I imagine some ranchers turned some horses loose too, but I don't think that is the main way in which they developed. BTW, I find it interesting to learn, that horses, left to their own genetic predisposition over generations, they eventually start developing the same color markers as our fjords, the zebra striping and dorsal stripe. I understand Joel, you not liking to hear people arguing emotional arguments, rather than relying on facts. What the writer of that awful article did was rely on both. He took his negative emotion towards any and all horses, and put in the facts that supported his emotions, and made an ugly article. Not balanced at all. It would be very easy to come up with more facts on the positive side of range horses, spice it with emotion and come up with a completely different article. I don't begrudge the horses their wild range. In the whole country there are only something like 20,000 (at best) wild horses. This country is pretty big. And I don't think (but don't have the facts to back up my thoughts here) that that is much of a sacrifice to our public lands. I think that's about all I have left in me to say about the subject, cause I'm sure everyone on the list knows exactly how I feel about it now. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Grumpy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My apologies to the list for my grumpy tone of the last post. The whole Field & Stream article by McIntyre creeped me out. It wasn't just his attacks on feral horses that were unkind and specious. He was attacking horses in general, starting with their smell. It was truly a horrible article. And Joel, if you read the article (which is hard to find online these days, unless you have the link, and even then it won't open unless you click on "Print Article"), I think you'll find that, while you may agree on some aspects of his article (range decimation) that there will be a lot of tripe in there that you would also find offensive. I had fallen in love with the horse at a very young age, and to read the sheer nastiness unleashed in this article rocked me back on my heels a bit. I don't expect everybody on the planet to be in love with the beasts, just as I don't really care for snakes. But the lack of respect for another species was appalling, in my view. To make this fjord related (and to get OUT of this grumpy mood) I would like to state that we have a DUSTY BABY in the making. We had problems getting this mare pregnant last year (not from lack of effort on Dusty and Gayle's part), and this year I was holding my breath, but Ms. Holly is 4 months pregnant. She's a beautiful mare, and has great movement and temperment, and I cannot wait to see the baby that she and Dusty have made together. I have a feeling it will be worth the wait. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Re: Field & Stream
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/17/2003 5:56:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This message is from: Joel A Harman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Maybe there are enough of here on this list that understand what feral > horses &donkeys do to the range. You think cows are bad? At least they > are regulated. They aren't put on the range until there is forage for > them to eat &they are taken off when the forage is gone. > > No one regulates the equines so they trash everything they range over. > Any range has a carrying capacity. With no natural predators the equines > breed indiscriminately. > > It's called range management. I had a feeling that you'd side with the author of the article! BLM is doing a very decent job of managing the Kiger horses, IMO. There is a place for everything. Viva la mustang! Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Re: f
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/14/2003 1:47:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It is time to get out our flaming red pens. I learned this from my > "Horse Health E-Newsletter" One of this weeks items is an article in > "Field &Stream" by Thomas McIntyre suggesting that donkeys and horses > from the open range be shot and or grilled for barbecue. If you go to > this site, there is a email to reply to. I sent my response to McIntyre's idiotic article a couple of weeks ago. He's got a lot of horsemen/women upset. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #258
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/5/2003 8:09:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've recently had three people warn me against buying > a Fjord because "they have a pony attitude with draft > horse strength". By 'pony attitude' I believe they > mean difficult to handle. Please comment. Too funny. I heard this too, after I bought my first fjord. Ignorance, plain and simple. People changed their tune after they met Juniper. :) She's still changing mis-perceptions of people. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #228
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/29/2003 5:45:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > These horsy accidents can happen soo fast and so unexpectedly !!! (even > playing it safe) > > May the Lord touch Amy and awaken her, restoring her to full health ! Our > thoughts and prayers are with her. > They do. I just took a fall off of Holly in a nearly completely safe environment. Just sprained an ankle and tore the skin off my fingers (when the reins slid through my hands). My prayers that Amy comes out of her coma soon. Your description of her makes her sound like a wonderful person.
GNW Expo Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #77
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/25/2003 11:52:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And of > course I wish we had had someone with a video camera for Catherine's Ski > routine - it was really the high point of the show from all the comments we > > heard afterwards. > My husband taped that. Pamela http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday Horses
