Re: fjords at auction

2005-11-22 Thread CrystalZak
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reading patti jo's note makes me realize what a great resource it is to have 
people do what she, and others do, as far as selling horses for others. it 
just makes it a lot easier and safer than just picking one off the net or at a 
sale. she knows the background of the horse, what's it's personality is like 
and 
what to expect. while she may connect, she doesn't have the same emotional 
attachment to the sale as the owner might and therefor can make a better 
choice. 
i know when i was selling my QH it was hard for me to determine whether or 
not he was going to a good home. someone who was able to ride him made an 
offer, 
and i accepted it. 

when i went to buy oz patti jo opened her home to me, and let me see him as 
he was, in a comfortable place for him. she got to see kind of what i was like 
(hmm, still surprises me that she let me take him home LOL) and if we would be 
a good match. and let me tell you, even though i know i don't ride as much as 
i should, i really love that big guy. he's just so easy to have around, and 
quite the clown..as i always say to her, what's not to love?

laurie, and oz the fuzzy fuzzy dirty dirty





Re: Fjords at Auction

2005-11-21 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 11/21/2005 10:25:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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I'm not positive and someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I "think" the
majority of the Fjords at auction are not of the highest quality. Perhaps they
bought them cheap and don't mind letting them go cheap.
* * * * *

My personal experience has been that most of the Fjords that have been 
offered through the Small Farmer's Journal auction have been of very good 
quality. 
They have been well groomed and prepared for sale and they have brought very 
good prices. But again There are auctions and there are auctions. 

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
260 May Creek Rd
Days Creek, OR 97429
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Re: Fjords at Auction

2005-11-21 Thread BaileysFjords
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HI Patti Jo,
 
I agree with you.  Many of the folks I have spoken with over the years  who 
take their Fjords to auction are just in a hurry, or want the money NOW, or  do 
not want to go through the work necessary to get the horse ready for sale at  
the price they want.  I have always advised consignment in such a  situation, 
for it is a win win situation, whereas auctions simply are not.
 
As for Amy's comments regarding Waverly, IA, I simply must disagree.   While 
many nice horses do go through that auction at a good price, just as many  do 
not.  The two days Waverly allows to run market horses tells us this  much.
 
If someone truly cares about the future of their horse, they are going to  
take the time to do the best they can to place it well and if they cannot,  
utilize the services of some of the fantastic trainers and breeders who take in 
 
consignments.  In fact, except for extinuating circumstances (death or  illness 
in the family), I personally would not consider buying a horse from  a 
breeder who uses auctions as an outlet for their horses.  My reasoning  for 
this is 
if a breeder is willing to take horses to auction without any  control over 
the new home of the Fjord/s, then it stands to reason this lack of  concern is 
predominant throughout the time the Fjord/s has spent with this  breeder.
 
Lynda
 
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Maybe  some people don't have the time or don't want to or don't want
to send them  to people like me to help sell them. I think it's too bad, this
way is much  nicer for the horse and the people butI guess to many it's a
way of  life??  As horses have been sold at auctions since just about  the
beginning of time.





Thanks much,  references are available. 

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's 
White Cloud,  MI
231-689-9902
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Fjords at Auction

2005-11-21 Thread Dave and Patti Walter
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That is a good guestion about why are Fjords ending up at auctions? I guess
the simple and plain truth would be, because it's an easy access to some
people. Some people just don't like to sell, they would rather just take their
chances at an auction and know they will be done with the horse. They don't
want to take the time, put any more money into the horse or energy. AND some
breeds do very well at some NICE auctions.

I'm not positive and someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I "think" the
majority of the Fjords at auction are not of the highest quality. Perhaps they
bought them cheap and don't mind letting them go cheap.

I think it's a different frame of mind, those that buy and sell at auctions.
Times have changed and a lot of people like myself, take horses on consignment
to help sell for the owner. Like myself, we have found there is a need out
there, connecting horses for sale with buyers. We do it in a much more humane
way then an auction house.

This year I've taken in 10 and sold 8. Typically they sell within the first
month, sometimes two and rarely does it take longer but it can.  I think it's
a much nicer way to sell your horse, you know where it's going and a good
match can be found.  Selling horses is a LOT of work,much more so then a lot
of people think. I LOVE it. I love meeting new people, love finding the right
match, love working with the horses and love talking about them. BUTit's a
lot of work. Lot of emails and phone calls, making video's, showing the horse,
etc etc. Maybe some people don't have the time or don't want to or don't want
to send them to people like me to help sell them. I think it's too bad, this
way is much nicer for the horse and the people butI guess to many it's a
way of life??  As horses have been sold at auctions since just about the
beginning of time.

Patti Jo Walter
www.franciscreekfjords.com





mn fjords at auction

2004-05-15 Thread CrystalZak
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there is a herd disperal of fjords here in minnesota tommorow at the verndale
auction house. i have no idea where they are coming from.

this is the website.√http://www.rjhorsesales.com/current-catalog.htm

if you click on the online catalog 5/16 horses it lists their pedigrees.

i hate to see them (or any horse) sold this way.

laurie with
central minnesota



Re: fjords at auction

2003-10-13 Thread Jean Ernest
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I just looked up these mares in the NFHR pedigree site...They are full
sisters, 9 and 10.  Looks like good bloodlines too.   Hope somebody good
gets them!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still mild for mid October, but getting cooler
by the day! Still above freezing!


>Looks like the mares & stud colt I've been trying to sell for a friend
>will go through the Hermiston, OR auction this Sat. The yard is located
>at exit 180 on I-84 in Oregon.
 
>The mares, Blaken & Marikka, are NFHR registered but will go through as
>unregistered because the original papers are lost & won't be replaced in
>time for the auction. The colt isn't registered yet.


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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fjords at auction

2003-10-12 Thread wandawoman9
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This is from Joel Harman.

Looks like the mares & stud colt I've been trying to sell for a friend will go 
through the Hermiston, OR auction this Sat. The yard is located at exit 180 on 
I-84 in Oregon. 

Coggins & health certificates are in order. Knock yourself out. The colt IS NOT 
stallion quality but the flies just quit this week & I will not cut him now as 
he will be somewhere else this time next week. The mares, Blaken & Marikka, are 
NFHR registered but will go through as unregistered because the original papers 
are lost & won't be replaced in time for the auction. The colt isn't registered 
yet.

If you just can't stand to see them go through the auction make us an offer we 
can't refuse.

Because we have all slept since the last time I posted about these horses they 
are good on farm machinery & wagons. Have been worked 4 abreast & they have 
been ridden some but not under saddle. They wear 21" collars but Blakken needs 
a pad under her's. They are heavy boned brown duns. Both are open.  

Bye

Joel Harman
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Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-27 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 2/27/2003 8:40:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> The Waverly auction, while massively marketed, also can be a bit tense as 
> there are a large number of meat buyers that attend.  The Waverly auction 
> has 
> actual "kill pens" on the premises.  Because of the high number of meat 
> buyers, the large number of Fjords going through this auction, and the 
> condition of some of these Fjords, some of us have been concerned, and 
> therefore, decided to help market these Fjords.  Personally, I believe we 
> are 
> helping Hamlett, not putting him down.
> 
> We are requesting everyone that attends this auction to wear a bandana so 
> we 
> can all recognize each other.  Also, the majority of the meat buyers are 
> allowed to actually be in the ring at Waverly, so this will help all of us 
> figure out what meat prices are and also, be able to observe to make sure 
> none of them are able to keep a bid on any of these Fjords.

Good for you.  While I don't find anything wrong with somebody buying a horse 
at auction (admirable more like it) it is important to recognize that there 
is the potential, at some auctions, for horses to go to slaughter.  I was 
blythely naive and innocent when I bought my first horse, a beautiful, sweet 
Arab.  My trainer started taking me with her to the Friday night auctions in 
Southern California.  I was so thrilled, all the tack, horses, action.  It 
was heavenly.  Till she burst my bubble.  And said "Listen for every time a 
horse is sold to Buyer # (whatever the number is).  He's the meat buyer.  I 
was horrified and didn't believe her.  Till I found that the horses that were 
old, anti-social, or otherwise undesirable, and some horses that were pretty 
nice too were sure 'nuff, going to that specific buyer.  My eyes were opened 
that day.  And I've learned about the seamy side of the horse business.

At the same time I worked some of the thoroughbred auctions, at Hollywood 
Park and Del Mar.  Those auctions were class operations and I knew not one of 
those babies were going to the knackers.  :)

Pamela
 http://hometown.aol.com/northhorse/index.html";>Northern Holiday 
Horses 



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-27 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello Amy,

> I guess I just don't understand why some folks are getting so worked up and 
> putting someone down because, for whatever the reason, they have made the 
> 


I do not believe anyone is "putting someone down", in this instance, Hamlett, 
for selling his Fjords through the Waverly auction.  We all have been working 
very hard to help promote these Fjords as there are a large number going 
through and many could be considered high risk.  Hopefully, all of the 
promotion of the Waverly catalog and flyer, plus our discussion on this list 
will ensure all these Fjords will find a good home.

The Waverly auction, while massively marketed, also can be a bit tense as 
there are a large number of meat buyers that attend.  The Waverly auction has 
actual "kill pens" on the premises.  Because of the high number of meat 
buyers, the large number of Fjords going through this auction, and the 
condition of some of these Fjords, some of us have been concerned, and 
therefore, decided to help market these Fjords.  Personally, I believe we are 
helping Hamlett, not putting him down.

We are requesting everyone that attends this auction to wear a bandana so we 
can all recognize each other.  Also, the majority of the meat buyers are 
allowed to actually be in the ring at Waverly, so this will help all of us 
figure out what meat prices are and also, be able to observe to make sure 
none of them are able to keep a bid on any of these Fjords.

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords 
Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack & Accessories
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
FAX: 775-383-6813
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United Equine Foundation
http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm

Lynda C. Welch
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Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 2/26/2003 12:24:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there?
> 

I have never seen this type of harness at our sale. Most of the harness we 
get is from reputable harness makers such as Big Sky, Midwest, Sampson, and 
Miller Harness. I'm not saying that the cheap harness couldn't make it's way 
here, but we do try to encourage the quality makers.

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
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Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 2/26/2003 5:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there?
> I bought some at Martin's at Turlock...that was almost the only kind of
> harness there...there was lots there and all sold for $140 to $180.  Got it
> home and the tug fell off the backstrap. 

LOL! I just bought a pony-size bridle for training, wanted something cheap 
and got it. Funny, most sellers try to disguise the fact that their stuff 
comes from India, but this bridle arrived with a big sticker saying MADE IN 
INDIA. Later my roommate came home and said, "What's that smell? Did one of 
the cats pee on the carpet?"  I explained how leather is tanned in 
India...


Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
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Fjords 
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West



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread Joe Glick
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>>GAIL RUSSELL wrote:
I would never buy a horse at our local livestock auction without considering
the very real possibility that it is a rogue horse, or ill or lame in some
way.<<

In Pennsylvania there are laws regarding horses going to auctions. If a
horse is sent to the auction that is lame or is too thin, the owner can be
fined. Not just the owner but also the hauler that took it to the auction.
The same laws apply while being ridden or driven in the public. If you get
stopped on the road with a lame horse, you pay a fine and must have him
trucked to your place or to a vet. This law was passed about 2 years ago, I
haven't heard of any cases where it actually happened. But it could easily
have that I'm not aware of.

Joe Glick
Glick Family Farm
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Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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There must have been 30 or 40 sets that day.  It is the same stuff they sell
on E-bay. It was really all that was available other than draft harness and
one or two other decent harnesses.  I was advised to buy it by someone who
should have recognized it was dangerous.  I hate to think where the rest of
it is!

Gail



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread ruth bushnell
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> Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up
there?
> I bought some at Martin's at Turlock...that was almost the only kind of
> harness there...there was lots there and all sold for $140 to $180.  Got
it
> home and the tug fell off the backstrap.  Not fixable.  It was an accident
> waiting to happen!
>
> GAil

Guess you can't expect much in the way of a harness for that price. I don't
recall seeing any like you describe but maybe when you're looking for
leather that's all you see =))) They do have a great variety of just about
anything you could think of that's horse related.  Ruthie, nw mt



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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Does the cheap East Indian-made harness with the red buttons show up there?
I bought some at Martin's at Turlock...that was almost the only kind of
harness there...there was lots there and all sold for $140 to $180.  Got it
home and the tug fell off the backstrap.  Not fixable.  It was an accident
waiting to happen!

GAil
>Regards harnesses sold there--- a few years ago we bought a new custom made
>Fjord set of harness there (used once or twice) and it was in mint condition
>and fit like gloves! They have plenty to choose from!
>
>The Sisters area is beautiful and the folks are wonderful! Guess you can
>tell we're SFJ fans.  =)))
>
>Ruthie
>Bushwhacker Fjords
>Gene and Ruthie Bushnell
>http://www.libby.org/~bushnell
>Troy, Montana



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread ruth bushnell
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> Also...I am curious as to how the SFJ auction is run.  Are the horses
> screened?  Do people have a chance to really pre-view them well?
> Gail
==

The Small Farmer's Journal Auction in Sisters, OR, (this year 4/25-27) is in
a quality auction class of it's own! Directed by Lynn Miller, author of the
best books that have been written on draft hitching, it is a first class
operation!

Last year while attending this huge well run auction, I often "visited" the
area where there were fine looking Fjords for sale waiting for auction. They
were all good specimens and well cared for, and there were several family
type interested parties eagerly inspecting for purchase.

Additionally, it is a great social occasion with like-minded folks, as well
as a huge bazaar of every kind of thing horse folks are interested in.

Remember--- some of the firest artwork and collectibles in the world are
sold by means of auction!

Regards harnesses sold there--- a few years ago we bought a new custom made
Fjord set of harness there (used once or twice) and it was in mint condition
and fit like gloves! They have plenty to choose from!

The Sisters area is beautiful and the folks are wonderful! Guess you can
tell we're SFJ fans.  =)))

Ruthie
Bushwhacker Fjords
Gene and Ruthie Bushnell
http://www.libby.org/~bushnell
Troy, Montana



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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There are auctions, and then there are auctions.  I think it depends on how
well-promoted the auctions are, and how well regulated.  I know the draft
community quite often trades horses at auction and that one does not
automatically assume that a horse in the auction has some kind of problem.
I would never buy a horse at our local livestock auction without considering
the very real possibility that it is a rogue horse, or ill or lame in some
way.  On the other hand, the California Red Bluff Bull and Gelding Sale
every January has a fairly detailed system of vet and performance
checks.much like an evaluationand then the horses are auctioned off.
It takes two or three days to do everything for all 150 horses, and lots of
them are "sifted."  People are not buying these horses for meat.  The lame
ones, or bad actors are simply not run through the auction.  I think it IS
possible that some of these horses flunked the x-ray portion of a vet check
when they were being sold as trained reiners or cutting horsesthere is
some fine breeding and training that goes through that auction that the
owners receive almost nothing for.  

I had an interesting experience with the Turlock Draft Horse and Equipment
Auction...where I know a pair of Unrau-bred geldings went very cheap.  (They
were ill at the timeI traced their history...they had been sold as a lot
by a divorcing woman to a friend, on the stipulation, I believe, that he
find decent homes for them...he took them straight to the auction, at which
point they had shipping fever and unloaded them at a profit.  As I remember,
they went slightly over meat prices...in the middle of the stock market
boom. BTW...they found good homes.)  I bought Whodini from that auction, on
impulse, at a different time.  He was no-saled, as he was going for little
more than meat price.  That year there was a big hay shortageso stock
was going cheap.  However, when I went to pick him up from a well-respected
draft horse breeder I was told that the Martins auction quality was not as
good as it had once been (maybe because of the hay shortage) .
(BTW...Whodini is the most sought-after horse in my herdI could have
sold him several times over since then.)  What I saw confirmed this.  There
were several horses there that were biting at people...viciously.  ONe
"shopper" turned her back on a big draft horse.  He was tied in a tie stall,
and she was at his head.  He reached over and took a bite out of her back.
I did not see it, but heard the scream.  I know she had a BAD bruise.
SEveral more horses tried to bite at me.  Even when the horses are "shown"
at these events, they are often in situations where they cannot be properly
shown.  Often the "teamsters" resort to theatrics that are not fair to the
horse.

Years earlier I had gone to the Turlock auction.  There were imported,
untrained French-bred Percheron mares going for meat prices.  They had been
pulled straight from pasture and put in the sale.  Most were pregnant, but
they had been pasture-bred, possibly with more than one stallion having
access to the mares...such that the off-spring were going to have
registration problems. A well-known breeder had become ill (probably chronic
heart problems that take their toll slowly, over years) and was doing a
dispersal sale.  They were selling for $400.  The owner was heart-broken,
and, I believe, no-saled most of them when he saw what was happening.  They
were beautiful horses.  I almost brought one home to put in my carport in
Marin County!  It was so sad.

In a waythe best outcome is to try to see to it that Fjords that are
sent to auction are either marketed properly before the auction, or go
through an auction that allows people some kind of assurance that they are
not "problem horses."

Hmm...I would be interested to know if people are selling horses right after
the Fjord evaluations...when the shoppers have had a good chance to see them
in their best light.

Also...I am curious as to how the SFJ auction is run.  Are the horses
screened?  Do people have a chance to really pre-view them well?

And finally, be careful about buying harness from these auctions if you do
not know what you are looking at.  Get help from someone knowledgeable.

Gail



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 2/26/2003 7:34:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi Brian,  Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate the
> sensible and insightful thoughts that you and Ursula
> share with this list.
> 

I must second this notion!!  I personally think the whole "auction" thing is 
being a bit blown out of proportion.  We must remember that the word 
"AUCTION" is NOT synonymous with "Slaughter house".  Many other breeds have 
been having specialty auctions (whether for a particular breed or particular 
disipline/purpose) for a long time with great benefit to the breeds involved. 
Take a look sometime at the prices they get for TB yearlings at some of the 
race horse auctions for instance.  Our Small Farmer's Journal Draft Horse 
Auction has had Fjords consigned several times in the last few years. These 
horses are bringing some of the top prices for the sale. These horses are 
getting exposure at these auctions, being seen by people that may not 
otherwise ever have seen a Fjord horse. These people may end up being future 
Fjord buyers - whether at another auction or from a private party. How can 
this be a bad thing?

I guess I just don't understand why some folks are getting so worked up and 
putting someone down because, for whatever the reason, they have made the 
choice of selling horses at auction.

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
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RE: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-26 Thread Cynthia Madden
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Hi Brian, I hope you recover from your flu soon.
Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate the
sensible and insightfull thoughts that you and Ursula
share with this list.

=
Cynthia Madden
Las Cruces, NM
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Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-25 Thread BaileysFjords
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Hello Karen,

> I am sitting out here in Colorado with my two auction Fjords (who I adore), 
> and sometimes I feel like an outsider to the list because of the rhetoric 
> about auctions.  And BTW, I didn't rescue these animals, I just purchased 
> them.
> 

You should not feel like an outsider, many people have purchased horses 
through auctions and have been very pleased.  Nor are most of these 
considered "rescues", that is dependent on the situation at hand.


> The funny thing is I talk to my friend who breeds Haflingers and she can't 
> figure out what the big hoo-hah is all about.  A great percentage of 
> Haffies 
> 

It is very unusual to see this large a number of Fjords going through an 
auction.  This is by no means a tradition for the Fjords in the States for 
the majority of breeders.  The unfortunate aspect of selling at an auction is 
the fact that unless the sellers opts to "no sale" due to the bid not being 
high enough, the seller has no control over whom purchases their Fjord.

Fjord breeders and owners are notoriously well known for their care in 
placing Fjords in new homes.  Most breeders I know take a great deal of time 
placing the right Fjord with the right owner.  

Our entire goal with the Waverly auction which I had thought we were being 
very clear with, was to let everyone know these Fjords were going through, 
#1, and to do our best to give bloodlines and any other information possible 
concerning the individual Fjord in order to ensure it does get a good home.

While Fjord breeders certainly do wish to show a profit from their offspring, 
most breeders are adamant they help the buyer choose the best Fjord for them. 
 This is the Fjord tradition, and I for one am very proud to be a part of 
such a great and caring group of peers.  Maybe the Haflinger breeders have a 
different tradition, there are many other breeds that do, no doubt!  
Hopefully, most of the Fjord breeders do not find themselves in the position 
of Tim where they are forced to sell at auction.

Lynda

Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords 
Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack & Accessories
White Cloud, MI
231-689-9902
FAX: 775-383-6813
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords


United Equine Foundation
http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm

Lynda C. Welch
President, PMU and Breed Specific Division
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  



Re: FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-25 Thread Karen Keith

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Thanks, Ursula, for bringing some balance to the discussion.

I am sitting out here in Colorado with my two auction Fjords (who I adore), 
and sometimes I feel like an outsider to the list because of the rhetoric 
about auctions.  And BTW, I didn't rescue these animals, I just purchased 
them.


The funny thing is I talk to my friend who breeds Haflingers and she can't 
figure out what the big hoo-hah is all about.  A great percentage of Haffies 
are sold at auction; that's just been the tradition with that breed.


Cheers!

Karen



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FJORDS AT AUCTION

2003-02-25 Thread Ursula & Brian Jensen
This message is from: "Ursula & Brian Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Dear List from Brian Jensen;
Yes, I am home with the flu, so hence all the mails to the
list!!! Although Auctions are not my first choice of buying and selling
Fjords they do provide an opportunity in our free-enterprise system. In the
past months on the list there has been some Doom and Gloom mailings on the
list around Fjords being Auctioned. I call it awfulizing or catastrophizing
to illicit an emotional response where a measured response of good
thinking and  timely action is far more helpful and productive to all
involved.
The present example of the Waverly Auction of Fjords  is a
case in point. I see it as a win/win situation for the vendor who no longer
wishes to keep a herd. For the purchaser who can acquire a Fjord at a
reasonable price. Most of all for the Fjord who can leave one situation and
hopefully move to another home where there will be good care and training
allowing the Fjord to be the best at whatever it can do. This whole
situation can evolve into a positive experience for all involved.
Many years ago in Alberta, Canada ,a buyer purchased by
auction two geldings named George & Harvey. The buyers names were the Unraus
who have went on to become prominent breeders and importers of Norwegian
Fjords. The Unraus of Anvil Acres have provided breeding stock to all of
North America and beyond. George & Harvey became Orville's first pulling
team and were a hit in the West and the beginning of a families life with
the Fjord horse.
I am sure many of the lists readers have had similar humble
beginnings with a Fjord ---who has changed their life forever. The humble
beginning does not lessen the full experience . Brian J Ursula &
Brian Jensen
Trinity Fjords
Box 1032
Lumby BC, V0E 2G0
Canada 250-547-6303
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Re: Fjords at Auction

2002-10-19 Thread Holly Tuck
This message is from: Holly Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It is possible they came from PMU farms and are all
crosses.  I know of some people who are breeding up to
7/8 cross right now.

Holly 

>What I do know is that they're all grade and came
from Canada.
DT 

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Re: Fjords at Auction

2002-10-19 Thread Fjordlove
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi DT,

I used to live in the Tri-Cities (right outside Hermiston, Oregon) and have 
been to the auction numerous times (with a QH breeder/trainer I worked for, 
when he went to purchase/sell his stock).  On ~ 5 different occassions, I've 
noticed Fjords going through - which is really unusual - as most folk in that 
area know it's mainly a QH dominated auction.  Even Arabs are a rare sight.  
In any event, I'm 99.9% sure my friend knows the owner of the Fjords - and 
from what I remember, they weren't quality bred or valuable enough to be sold 
privately (which is no fault of the horse).  It's my hunch, like so many 
other horses sold there, that they're basically recycled - having passed from 
one auction to the next.

Are you looking into purchasing one?  If so, I might be able to do some 
tracking down for you

Gretchen in Arizona (formerly from Tri-Cities, WA)



Fjords at Auction

2002-10-19 Thread canoetoo
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I'm at the horse auction down in Hermiston OR this weekend.  I stopped by 
last night to take a look at the horses to discover what looks like 5 
fjords (one might be a fjord cross).  Unfortunately, I couldn't find a 
catalof and it was late at night so I don't have any details.  What I do 
know is that they're all grade and came from Canada.  I think they came 
from the Maple Valley area from someone named James or Jamie.  Anyone know 
anything about who this may be?

Thanks,

DT



Re: Fjords at auction

2002-03-27 Thread SorgerJ
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 3/26/02 6:27:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< There are 7 fjord horses consigned to the Harley Troyer Draft Horse and
 Equipment auction coming this April 5th and 6th.  I was wondering if
 anyone might know anything about these horses?  There is no description
 about where they come from. There is a team of two year old geldings;  a
 four year old mare and gelding; a five year old gelding; a nine year old
 gelding and a 7 year old gelding.  A couple of my friends have expressed
 an interest in the possibility of purchasing them.  If anyone has any
 information, would you please e-mail me privately?  Thanks.
  
Beth, In the section of the flyer I received from Troyer there is another 5 
year old fjord gelding listed, he is in the section under consigned but not 
pictured.
  
   Sue

 Sue Clark-Sorger
Crown Oak Fjords
Sandia Park NM






Fjords at auction

2002-03-26 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

There are 7 fjord horses consigned to the Harley Troyer Draft Horse and
Equipment auction coming this April 5th and 6th.  I was wondering if
anyone might know anything about these horses?  There is no description
about where they come from. There is a team of two year old geldings;  a
four year old mare and gelding; a five year old gelding; a nine year old
gelding and a 7 year old gelding.  A couple of my friends have expressed
an interest in the possiblity of purchasing them.  If anyone has any
information, would you please e-mail me privately?  Thanks.

Beth

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Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO
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Re: Fjords at Auction

2002-01-09 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 03:59 AM 1/10/2002 +1100, you wrote:

This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear List:

Mary's post concerning the number of fjords showing up at auctions made me 
wonder:  Is there any fjord rescue set up, much like many dog breeds have, 
to intervene and find new owners before a horse gets shipped off to a sale?


None that are Fjord only that I am aware of anyway.

Mike






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Fjords at Auction

2002-01-09 Thread Karen Keith

This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear List:

Mary's post concerning the number of fjords showing up at auctions made me 
wonder:  Is there any fjord rescue set up, much like many dog breeds have, 
to intervene and find new owners before a horse gets shipped off to a sale?


Just wondering.

Karen





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