Re: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list,no?
This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi W. Peter Randall, If you can get hold of a training collar. I have one that is an electic collar that is controlled by a hand held button. Most of the larger pet store carry them, some will even rent them for a week or so. The collar work for me on a guardian dog, who as a year old pup decided that the goat he was to protect were fun to play with. It does sound like you mare may be bagging up. Alison Bakken Sundre, Alberta ...One of the hottest and driest on record. The price of hay has gone thur the roof.
Re: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list,no?
This message is from: bolinsj [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree that I don't recommend the procedure, but my first pony, Beast trained our poodle not to chase and nip his heels. He was usually a dog hater and would blast them good, but seemed to know that Elan was one of us. He waited until she made a grab at his ankle and 'lifted' her clear into the air, throwing her a few feet. She hit with a thud. She continued to follow us around, but at a comfortable distance. Beast discouraged a lot of dogs over the years we had him. And anyone or anything that looked like it was 'after his herd'. I think the 'shocker collar' is a pretty good method even though it sounds harsh. I have a couple neighbors who have used it to deter their dogs (sheepdog, setter) from chasing neighbors cows. I couldn't find a shocker collar small enough for our little dogs. Martie in MD T Peter, Let me say that I don't really reccomend this method because it cost me money at the dog vet, but my Irish Setter was cured 2 years ago from chasing horses by one swift kick to the head. He lived but won't talk about. When the horses come out into the lawn where he is ( with an invisable fence ) he
RE: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list,no?
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] That wasn't positive reinforsement but it worked. You MIGHT be able to duplicate this more safely if you could administer an electric fence sized shock that the dog would think had come from the horse. I do not have experience with shock collarsbut I have seen dogs that would not even walk anywhere in the direction of an electric fence line after they were once shocked by it. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list,no?
This message is from: Bill Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carol J. Makosky Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:14 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list,no? This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W. Peter Randall wrote: This message is from: W. Peter Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few things from the Niagara Region in heat struck Ontario... 2) I have a new dog who is just great with our three small kids and wonderful on the farm except where horses are concerned. He takes after them and especially bothers my exquisite filly Elsa (Leader Lane) - and she's something, never had a horse person see her who didn't want to buy her. The dog is a Shep\Collie mix, one year old and always been in a city. I have been leading horses down the drive, by the dog while my wife has him on a leash and choke collar and she chokes him and says no everytime he barks at a horse. We also tie him up whenever he is bad like this but as you can imagine it can be quite dangerous. Last night I was taking Elsa into her stall after grooming and the dog flew out of nowhere biting her back legs and Elsa and I did dangerous out of control circles around her stall till I kicked him out and got the metal stall door shut. I am praying the horse novelty will wear off but am obviously concerned for the safety of the horses and us humans! ADVICE GREATLY APPRECIA Peter, Let me say that I don't really reccomend this method because it cost me money at the dog vet, but my Irish Setter was cured 2 years ago from chasing horses by one swift kick to the head. He lived but won't talk about. When the horses come out into the lawn where he is ( with an invisable fence ) he normally goes to the other side of the house so he won't be reminded of being knocked silly. That kick was from a rather porky QH mare. The Fjord (Henry)got a good kick in to the head of a neighbors German Shepard that charged him from behind while we were adjusting our saddles on the side of the road accross the street from the dogs house. Henry was eating grass and never lifted his head. The dog went flying and yelping back to the house. The owners adult son came out and told us not to ride by their house anymore because we hurt their dog (who would never attack a horse, Henry had to attack him). We had to apoligise for my horse because his dog crossed the road (leash law in effect)so my horse could attack him . That dog doesn't even bark at horses anymore. That wasn't positive reinforsement but it worked. Bill Kelley Webster NY
Re: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list, no?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Peter- So much to learn! And it never ends. I resisted using fly spray till quite recently. No, it's not natural and yes, it is toxic. However, in nature horses roam over a large area and their dung does not pile up in one place, attracting flies. Also they are not fenced so they can seek relief in dust, shade, water etc. AT my new boarding facility there are LOTS of flies. I'm swatting them off myself, and it's rather annoying. I purchased and tried the new spot type fly repellent, and it worked well. It only needs to be applied once every two weeks, and it's odorless. The horses are much more comfortable. Re: dogs. Congrats on your new pup! Negative reinforcement (pulling on leash, saying no) will actually make the problem worse. Your dog will start to associate horses with punishment and get more and more agitated around them. Check around for a good dog trainer who uses positive reinforcement/clicker training. With these methods it's possible to reprogram your dog's responses to certain stimuli, like horses. Keep us posted! Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html; Fjordings West/A / )__~ /L /L
Re: Dogs\Flies and Foals - Good title for a message to the list,no?
This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] W. Peter Randall wrote: This message is from: W. Peter Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few things from the Niagara Region in heat struck Ontario... 2) I have a new dog who is just great with our three small kids and wonderful on the farm except where horses are concerned. He takes after them and especially bothers my exquisite filly Elsa (Leader Lane) - and she's something, never had a horse person see her who didn't want to buy her. The dog is a Shep\Collie mix, one year old and always been in a city. I have been leading horses down the drive, by the dog while my wife has him on a leash and choke collar and she chokes him and says no everytime he barks at a horse. We also tie him up whenever he is bad like this but as you can imagine it can be quite dangerous. Last night I was taking Elsa into her stall after grooming and the dog flew out of nowhere biting her back legs and Elsa and I did dangerous out of control circles around her stall till I kicked him out and got the metal stall door shut. I am praying the horse novelty will wear off but am obviously concerned for the safety of the horses and us humans! ADVICE GREATLY APPRECIA Hi, I would try a remote shock collar on the dog. This sounds like a very bad and dangerous situation and is not good training for your horses to accept and trust dogs. I don't even want to think of what could happen if you are driving down the road and a dog comes out after the horses have had to deal with the one at home. Did you get this dog as a pup? Good Luck I want to take this time to thank all of you in Canada for sending down the high with much cooler and drier air for us in WI. I enjoyed an almost bug free drive this morning. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
