Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-16 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Update on Fair Hill
Spent today at Fair Hill, grooming trails and staining/urethaning hazards.
Saw NO 'gators, but by the looks of the water hazard, there could be a 
couple
of Loch Ness monsters in there and no-one would see them before they grabbed a
horse.
Should be safe from wild animals if nothing else.  I didn't notice if the 
'fox
den' was set up this year as a hazard.  Maybe there will be problems with the
animals.

Martie, LOL

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> In a message dated 10/15/99 19:10:42 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> << And no I didn't know that gators meant navigators.  I hear the term
>  navigator all the time at the CDEs but didn't really understand that a 'gator
>  was a 'navigator' and not a 'aligator'. >>
>
> Sigh and here all this time, I've been thinking it was alligators!  Which
> are not a laughing matter, mind you.  One of my friends lives in Florida and
> tells me gator stories.  .  Kinda glad I'm in the
> Northwest.  No rattlers, gators or tarantulas!
>
> Pamela
> Thinking about the local mountain lions



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-16 Thread Denise Delgado
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how about gladitator or instigator?  denise



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-16 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am reminded of the game of whispering to your next neighbor at the table
and then they whisper etc. and the end result is nothing like the beginning.
When I said "gator" it was the Floridian term for alligator!!!  Surprise!!
I love the quipping that goes on here, gives one a lift.Jean



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
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Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Trace clipping


>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>In a message dated 10/15/99 19:10:42 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
>
><< And no I didn't know that gators meant navigators.  I hear the term
> navigator all the time at the CDEs but didn't really understand that a
'gator
> was a 'navigator' and not a 'aligator'. >>
>
>Sigh and here all this time, I've been thinking it was alligators!
Which
>are not a laughing matter, mind you.  One of my friends lives in Florida
and
>tells me gator stories.  .  Kinda glad I'm in the
>Northwest.  No rattlers, gators or tarantulas!
>
>Pamela
>Thinking about the local mountain lions
>



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 10/15/99 19:10:42 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< And no I didn't know that gators meant navigators.  I hear the term
 navigator all the time at the CDEs but didn't really understand that a 'gator
 was a 'navigator' and not a 'aligator'. >>

Sigh and here all this time, I've been thinking it was alligators!  Which 
are not a laughing matter, mind you.  One of my friends lives in Florida and 
tells me gator stories.  .  Kinda glad I'm in the 
Northwest.  No rattlers, gators or tarantulas!

Pamela
Thinking about the local mountain lions



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread Denise Delgado
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i have seen coyotes doing lots of things, but never riding.  perhaps they
howl and yip at sundown to gather up their night ponies and take a ride when
the humans are'nt out!!!  i was afraid to comment myself till i saw all the
others.  i did'nt want to take the chance after my last lesson from the
list.  i hope the original author takes all of this as jest, not a grammar
lesson.  i trace clipped quinn the other day after all the talk of clipping.
he loves it, but did'nt do any acrobatics as misha described, darn!!!  that
sounds like fun!!!  he is recently from canada and looks like a shaggy
buffalo,  (north american fjord that he is),  sans the little pig eyes.
next year i am going to add spirls and racing flames.  maybe that will make
him speed up.  though when he lopes, he has a rocking chair feel, like
waves.   i'm waiting for my husband to fix the trailer plug.  i think i ran
over it.  i hope he hurries, as there is a team penning tonight and i would
like  to introduce quinny to steers and lots or people, dogs and other
horses.  we won't be doing any penning till he feels comfortable about the
ruckus.  i learned a lesson from the knutemeister in turlock.  gotta eat
dinner,  denise in mokelumne hill, calif.  cooler and breezy, still sunny.
i wish fall would get here!!!



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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He he he,
Me riding, coyote walking or stalking or whatever coyotes do.  Although the
buzzards were riding one day.  On my horse!  With me!  And the horse was NOT a
happy camper.  Of course, neither was the confused buzzard whose meal we had
disturbed.  Boy are they BIG birds!
And no I didn't know that gators meant navigators.  I hear the term
navigator all the time at the CDEs but didn't really understand that a 'gator
was a 'navigator' and not a 'aligator'.

So you learn something new everyday.  LOL
Martie

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> John and Martie Bolinski wrote:
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> >  We have coyotes but have never seen one riding.
>
> Boy, I hope you never do see one riding 'cause then they could keep
> up with your horse. [:o)



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-15 Thread wcoli
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John and Martie Bolinski wrote:

>  We have coyotes but have never seen one riding. 

Boy, I hope you never do see one riding 'cause then they could keep 
up with your horse. [:o)



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-14 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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Jean,
No gators, but at least no bears or moose either.  Just the average
run-of-the-mill
killer buzards (drive my horses cuckoo) and guinea hens ('feral' vs wild?) plus
dogs,
bikes, and so on.  We have coyotes but have never seen one riding.  Wild
turkeys
spooked us a couple times and the usual deer.
But no gators,

Martie

Jean Gayle wrote:

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> Martie I must have seen a Florida address tucked into your response.  I too
> have never heard of gators in Maryland!
>
> Jean Gayle
> Aberdeen, WA
> [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
> Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
> http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-14 Thread Jean Gayle
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Martie I must have seen a Florida address tucked into your response.  I too
have never heard of gators in Maryland!



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
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Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-13 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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Jean,
Alligators?  I live in MD.  We get some pretty big snakes but the
only other reptiles I know of would be the occassional
run-away-from-home lizard.
Have ridden in Mexico where we had to watch for and avoid
aligators.  The horse I rode had been bitten by one as a foal.

Martie

Jean Gayle wrote:

> This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Martie, do you ever have to worry about alligators and horses??
>
> Jean Gayle
> Aberdeen, WA
> [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
> Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
> http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-12 Thread Jean Gayle
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Martie, do you ever have to worry about alligators and horses??



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
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Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-12 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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Vivian,
Glad you will be at Fair Hill.  I hope to see you there.  I think I have
Friday to look at the horses.  The rest of the weekend will be pretty busy.
RE: Floyd.  There was a lot of damage to the driving trails caused by
flooding and trees down.  I don't think they will have too much of it repaired 
by
the show.  The actual marathon will be through areas that were not too severely
damaged.  I have not had the opportunity to go out and hike/ride/drive it 
because
of so many other commitments, but some friends who drive there every day say it
is pretty bad and most of the bridges are unpassable with a carriage.  I think
they will have to dig out the 'tunnels' also before the show.  It is such a 
shame
because it is the nicest place for driving in our area.  Driving just does not
seem to be high on the priority of the maintainance group.  They are clearing
enough for hiking/biking and riding but will probably not do anything for the
forseeable future about making the bridges passable and safe for driving.  Or
that is what I have heard through the grapevine from friends who live adjacent 
to
the land.  I need to trailer there (about 1/2 hour) so I don't get there often.
Many years back I used to board close enough to ride over from the boarding
stable.  Fox hunting!

Martie


> 
> Good Luck in your debut. I'll be looking for you at Fair Hill. How does the
> place look after Floyd went thru? Vivian C



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-12 Thread Reinbowend
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Martie,

I would clip him before the CDE, but maybe not until about 2 weeks prior. 
Marnix gets an entire body clip, again, I clipped him before Gladstone, but 
even with a blanket he's grown too much coat to do a marathon. He will remain 
blanketed thru-out the winter until I go south and then he'll get clipped 
again. 

Boots Wright used to wear a black velvet hard hat in cones and dressage 
phases. She added some black tulle to the hat and some red ribbon. It actualy 
looked quite attractive. Like somethinbg out of the hunt field from days gone 
bye. The tulle obscured the harsh lines of the hat and the red ribbon brought 
the color scheme of the turn-out together. 

Good Luck in your debut. I'll be looking for you at Fair Hill. How does the 
place look after Floyd went thru? Vivian C



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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Marsha,
And boy do I need a confidence boost!  Ran the dressage test today;
enter ring zigzag to X; halt at 45 degree angle and salute.  Kilar takes a
dump.  Trot on.  Circle right no problem.  Circle left half circle plus
another zigzag.  This is a test we were doing Ok three weeks ago!  And I
know he can do it.  Oh well.
I'll get the clippers out tomorrow morning and get started.  He'll be an
attention getter no matter what I do.  At least he'll be comfortable.  He is
just such a ham!

Marsha Jo Hannah wrote:
Think of this as a learning experience.  You're learning how to clip.

> You're learning how to do CDEs.  My guess is that you'll make enough
> other (normal-for-beginners) mistakes that a fraction of a point for
> "pretty" isn't going to change your placing!  Go with what makes you
> and your horse comfortable.  IMHO, the added confidence is likely to
> improve your performance!
>
> Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
> 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.
> ---



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Marty,
go for it and clip. Kilar will be ever so grateful - and hey, they don't 
call it a 'trace clip' for nothing... And my vote is with the hard hat. If 
it feels right, and safe, JUST DO IT!



Good luck, good night and happy driving,Karen



(-So says a woman with 5 driving hats, one ea. western straw and felt, and a 
velvet hunt cap tht's not legal, and one that is.A real fashion victim!)


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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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> John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would like to clip him again but plan to show him (our 1st show)
> in November.  [...]  I don't do a really beartiful job and I'm afraid
> he will look 'strange'.  The show is a CD, not a pleasure show [...] I
> had planned on wearing a hard hat rather than a nice dressy hat for
> this show.  I understand that this is acceptable, but my instructor
> thinks I should dress up.  [...]  We will only be doing dressage and
> cones.

In Combined Driving, "pretty" is far less important than "clean and
safe".  Yes, if you get a picky judge, you might lose a fraction of a
point in "Presentation" for a really bad clip job or a really ugly
helmet.  However, at some events (the ones with marathons), you can
get eliminated for having a horse that's overly stressed, i.e. doesn't
get his pulse and heart rate down properly at the rest stop, or the
end of the marathon.

Think of this as a learning experience.  You're learning how to clip.
You're learning how to do CDEs.  My guess is that you'll make enough
other (normal-for-beginners) mistakes that a fraction of a point for
"pretty" isn't going to change your placing!  Go with what makes you
and your horse comfortable.  IMHO, the added confidence is likely to
improve your performance!

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif.
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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread OLSENELAIN
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Martie,
I compete my Fjord a lot in dressage and to me, it is imperative that they 
are clipped otherwise they suffer by overheating. I live in a warm 
climate(CA) and I often do a full body clip twice a year. I clipped my 
competition horse at least a week before the show because even clipping a 
horse can create some stress because of the difference in body cooling. I 
clipped him in Oct. and I am sure he will need it again in January. I think 
Fjords look beautiful with a full body clip...just like a summer coat. And I 
do sheet or blanket him when his clipped.

So clip away!
Elaine Olsen



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread Mike May

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At 02:46 PM 10/11/99 -0400, you wrote:

 Also, I had planned on wearing a hard hat rather than a nice dressy
hat for this show.  I understand that this is acceptable, but my
instructor thinks I should dress up.  I always work Kilar with the hard
hat.  Since this will be our first show, I would be more comfortable
wearing the hard hat.  Thoughts on this?  We will only be doing dressage
and cones.


If you are more comfortable with the hard hat by all means wear it!!!



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
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I trace clipped Kilar last year and was thrilled to be able to work with
him all winter without the hours-long drying and cleanup time.

Today I drove him after about 3 weeks off.  It was really warm today and
he sweated badly and tired after just 1/2 hour.  I would like to clip
him again but plan to show him (our 1st show) in November.  That means I
will be driving more regularly for the next couple weeks to get ready.
And it means I will be spending a LOT of time cleaning up.

Any thoughts about whether it would be better to clip him now, before
the show or wait until after?  I don't do a really beartiful job and I'm
afraid he will look 'strange'.  The show  is a CD, not a pleasure show
so maybe it is more important for him to be really comfortable than
really  Fjordy?  He does look a little strange with the trace clip and
all the heavy body hair.

Also, I had planned on wearing a hard hat rather than a nice dressy
hat for this show.  I understand that this is acceptable, but my
instructor thinks I should dress up.  I always work Kilar with the hard
hat.  Since this will be our first show, I would be more comfortable
wearing the hard hat.  Thoughts on this?  We will only be doing dressage
and cones.

thanks,
Martie



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-11 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Since moving to the more temperate climate here in
> Oregon, I have found it 
> necessary to trace a couple of our heavier coated
> Fjords.
  
> Some time later, one of our clients, Becky Crosbie,
> purchased Lars, out of 
> Mary Thurman's white mare, Line.  He is another one
> who grows way too much 
> hair for this climate.

He comes by his long coat naturally!! Line grows way
too much coat every year, but solves it much the way
Molde does - she starts to shed around mid-December,
and sheds steadily all winter long(although not in
bunches).  Don't even own a pair of clippers, but
maybe I can borrow a pair and get someone to help me
clip her this winter if she doesn't need all that
coat.  Will wait to see what winter has in store for
us this year, though.

Mary


 

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Raintree Farms
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Re: Trace clipping and Athletic Fjords

1999-10-11 Thread Mike May

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At 08:57 AM 10/8/99 -0800, you wrote:

This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 I like Carol Rivoires idea of putting some of
the super athletes on the NFHR page. Whaddya say Mike? I think we should
use NA horses as these guys are the ones we are most likely to see around.
We have to include geldings too or we would miss out on Wez.


I don't have a problem with that at all.  All I need is the pictures.  I do 
have one of Laurie's sliding stop pictures of Dusty on the site.



One of the pages I love to send people to, other than Laurie Pittman's 
photo page, is Mike May's personal page with Malla flying over that log 
jump! What a horse! Not to mention the great rider.


I guess I should put that one on the NFHR site too.  It is a cool 
picture.  The resolution of it isn't great because it was taken at quite a 
distance and blown up during the scanning of it.


Mike



Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-10 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Anne,
You gave a really good explanation of clipping! I did want to add a couple 
of things.
I always try to clip as clean a horse as I can muster, weather permitting. 
Dirt is THE enemy of clipper blades. I use the big (Oster?) variable speed 
clippers for the bulk of the job, and switch to the regular Clipmaster 
clippers for the finish work.Learn how to properly adjust the blade tension, 
and this will also help extend the life of your blades.
It really helps to have a helper, as when I get into the folds of skin 
behind the forearms, it sure makes life easy if someone can hold up and 
extend the leg out. (Also when I am getting a bunch ready for a show , and I 
have to almost "sculpt" under the jawline,I have someone hold their head up, 
as a fjord has a pretty heavy head when you are trying to get eveything 
"just right" and support their head at the same time!)
If you can have extra sharp blades on hand, to switch out to, this really 
helps. I try to clip at least a full week before a show in order to 
"disappear"those clipper tracks. To clean up some of the clipper tracks that 
are really tough to get out, and if you are afraid of taking too much off 
with your other clippers to remedy it, try using a disposable razor. It 
sometimes does the trick.
Lastly, something that is pretty obvious, never clip a horse that is tied 
hard and fast.
On a regular "maintenance" basis I really don't clip more than the goat 
hairs and bridle path, but have done allot of trace clips, and only a couple 
of full body clips on the ultra hairy ones before a fall show - and yes, I 
blanketed the body clipped ones until their hair came back, which was 
amazingly soon!


Nite all, Karen

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Re: Trace clipping

1999-10-10 Thread Anneoly
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Misha asked how to get a clip to look smooth.. I am no expert here but the 
theory is to follow the direction of hair growth as closely as possible with 
the clippers. This might mean curving them around as you move along. Long 
even slow paths with the direction of growth often work to give even cut. If 
you go across the direction of growth you will get clipperb blade marks, if 
you lean too heavy on one side of the clippers you will get the long line 
marks between runs...I am sure anyone who has clipped knows all about those 
lines!! ANy way it is a real art that I cannot say I have totolly mastered to 
get a completely smooth, line free clip job, especially on these beasts with 
their arctic coats. It is a different experience on Thoroughbreds or thinner 
coated breeds... I try to clip in the fall when there is still going to be a 
little growth of winter coat left so that hopefully those lines will grow out 
and fade away.. Other wise you are stuck with them for the season. Happy 
clipping. Anne A.



Trace clipping

1999-10-09 Thread misha nogha
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Okay guys, Ingmar is clipped. Thank you for every one's advice. We rode in
the arena at top speed, he didn't get too hot and towel dried quickly. I am
a happy gal. Ingmar is a happy boy. He was much more peppy with the new
haircut as he didn't overheat as quickly. That is saying a lot. Ingmar is a
very lively Fjord. YAHOO! The thing is--it was kind of comical. My clippers
ran out of steam (portable Wahls) halfway through the job--didn't want to
work with the cord--too long a cord too much resistance? I don't know. So
we went with a half clip. Ha. I finished it today though so don't worry. My
clipping ability is not so smooth, how do you get em looking smooth?
Anne--for just trace clipping you don't need a blankie do you? I could sure
put one on if you think so. He will only be clipped this once and then it
can grow back. Gosh he looked right smart though.

Okay, loaded one colt off to a new home. Owner and he are happy, I am happy
he got a great home! I still have two foals if any one is looking. These
are real typy kids, elegant, athletic and pretty. Very sweet. I have one
weanling filly and one weanling gelding left.

Oh, and the tape, as I was moving it around the horse, Ingmar got ahold of
one end of it and started chewing on it. I did the rest by eye. It wasn't
that hard. It's not perfect but I think it looks neat.

Misha from Shota Fjords http://www.eoni.com/~mishamez



Trace clipping

1999-10-09 Thread FofDFJORDS
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Since moving to the more temperate climate here in Oregon, I have found it 
necessary to trace a couple of our heavier coated Fjords.

We moved here in Dec. and our horses had grown their LONG JOHNS in 
preparation for the normal sub-zero weather in MT.  Our oldest mare, Molde, 
grows more hair than I have ever seen.  Her forelock is clear down to the end 
of her nose.  I usually end up cutting at least 6" a year off of her tail.  
She is a 'rough coat'.

When we arrived in Eugene from MT. it was 50 degrees - and that was above 
zero!  Molde was prepared for 50 degrees BELOW (I have seen it reach that 
cold in MT).  The poor dear was totally miserable and wet from sweat 
constantly.  I was not sure what to do for her.  I was afraid that she might 
catch cold being wet all of the time.  If I blanketed her, she would sweat 
even more.  If I clipped her, then would HAVE to keep her blanketed so she 
wouldn't get sick.  The vet suggested doing nothing and let Mother Nature 
take care of her.  She was inside in a stall as we didn't have fencing yet.  
After a short time she began to shed like you couldn't believe.  Her hair 
came out in big matted wads like when buffalo shed.  She was a sight.

Some time later, one of our clients, Becky Crosbie, purchased Lars, out of 
Mary Thurman's white mare, Line.  He is another one who grows way too much 
hair for this climate.  It was not uncommon to see these two wet from sweat 
just standing in their stalls in the winter.  I tried a trace clip on both of 
these horses.  They just looked miserable all of the time.

It was as though I had given them a new lease on life!  The first time Becky 
rode Lars after his haircut, he was like a new man!!  He had spring in his 
step and a renewed sparkle in his eye.  It was SOOO obvious that these two 
felt much better.

It makes cool out time and drying time much easier when they are worked 
during the winter.  Have never tried the tape, Karen.  Will do that next time.

Gayle Ware
Field of Dreams
Eugene, OR  



Re: Trace clipping and Athletic Fjords

1999-10-08 Thread Karen McCarthy

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You don't tape the whole horse, silly! You can re-site the tape to get it 
even, and it also provides a good edge, or guide, for the clippers, sort of 
a template.


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Re: Re: Trace clipping and Athletic Fjords

1999-10-08 Thread Anneoly
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Hello out there,
 I am currently riding two fjords year round here in the Pacific Northwest, 
Wez and Misha. I clip both of them for the same reasons that others have 
stated ie they get hot and wet from work and then stand around and risk 
getting chilled. Once clipped I am 100% obligated to provide them the warmth 
and dryness that their coat would otherwise provide. Different blankets fit 
different horses  but I like ones that have a nylon interior and a good 
comfortable fit to avoid chafing. I also look for materials that  dry well on 
the horse to avoid fungus growth from damp material against the skin. We in 
this wet climate have to worry about that. Rambo rigs work well if they fit 
your horse (Wez always got his legs caught up in the straps). Get a weight 
appropriate to your climate so they are not too hot on a typical day.
Wez already got a complete body clip in Sept. in preparation for the 
Championships and has now grown another almost complete coat. He and Misha 
will get a reverse blanket clip at the end of the month. Keep those blades 
sharp for those thick coats!! Anne A.



Re: Trace clipping and Athletic Fjords

1999-10-08 Thread John and Martie Bolinski
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

re: trace clipping and tape
We draw the clip  line on Kilar with those washable pens before we clip.
This works pretty well as you can get an idea where to clip and how it will
look.  The thought of taping the whole horse is a little daunting.

Martie



Trace clipping and Athletic Fjords

1999-10-08 Thread misha nogha
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Martie and Karen for your comments on trace clipping. Gues I'll take
the plunge. I like the masking tape idea, or my horse would be naked as I
tried to even it out. Ha. My friend Alex is going to do her dressage Fjord
too so I am going to wait until she does it and then she can tell me what
not to do. Right Alex--ha. I like Carol Rivoires idea of putting some of
the super athletes on the NFHR page. Whaddya say Mike? I think we should
use NA horses as these guys are the ones we are most likely to see around.
We have to include geldings too or we would miss out on Wez. I have to say
people act shocked when I tell them a Fjord has got a Prix St. Georges, but
then when they see Ingmar move it out and perform some of the more
difficult moves, they can see it. I just have to catch up with Ingmar. I
want to say also I want to see some of the draft discipline Fjords too. I
love the draft capabilities of Fjords!! One of the pages I love to send
people to, other than Laurie Pittman's photo page, is Mike May's personal
page with Malla flying over that log jump! What a horse! Not to mention the
great rider.

On foals and tape. I have had a lot of success with the wide white tape
with foals. They can see it well and usually put their noses out slowly to
touch it. In fact, most of my mares encourage the kids to do it on the
first outing, standing back as soon as the foal gets near it. When I used
the regular sized tape, I found the foals pushed through it but for some
reason, I think the visual barier one, they don't seem to do that to the
wide white tape. 

Okay, thanks a lot for your response! Misha from Shota Fjords



Re: Fjord colors and trace clipping

1999-10-07 Thread Karen McCarthy

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Subject: Fjord colors and trace clipping
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:56:55 -0800

This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Any one out there ever trace clip a Fjord for winter work out?If you do
will the hair grow back during the winter or not?


Yes, it grows in slowly.  I do not re-clip.  My guys have suffered no ill 
effects from it - like Jean in Fairbanks,I have felt under the guard hairs, 
and they are quite warm . Even when their topline is frozen hard in the 
morning, all their vitals are quite toasty. Shivering is a natural response 
to cold. I have brought babies in to a dry barn during long 2-3 day storms 
though. Good experience for them being in a stall, if nothing else! I have 
never blanketed a trace clipped horse,(yet). A hint when trace clipping: get 
a roll of masking tape out and stick it where you want your clip to be.Easy 
to adjust and really helps in make it look even!


Karen

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Fjord colors and trace clipping

1999-10-07 Thread misha nogha
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Any one out there ever trace clip a Fjord for winter work out?If you do
will the hair grow back during the winter or not? If you do, do you blanket
the horse too? I feel sorry for my gelding when we are working in the arena
at night right now because he gets so much sweatier than the other horses
having such a long coat. I have not worked them so intensely int he winter
before so Inever trace clipped. The horses have run in stalls only--unless
mare and foal--so I am not sure about the trace clipping. Ideas?

I love the Fjord color variety too. Thanks to Bluebird lane for sharing
those great photos. Just loved that yellow dun! I always wanted a white
dun. All of my horses are brown dun but I like that too. With the yellow
grasses it looks to me like I have a herd of exotic animals out there. In
the brown dun color I like the real pale ones---spun honey color--with real
light face markings--kind of toast. That's my favorite Fjord 'variety' of
the brown dun.

Yes Julie--we are all REAL excited to see photos of your new stallion!!!
Please send some to me!!

About the 2" white tape. I use it in some areas alone and in some areas in
conjunction with New Zealand wire. I like the high visibility of the white
tape. it holds up better than the thinner ones, it does stretch in the wind
or snow though, so keep that in mind.

Misha from Shota Fjords

Misha