Re: Fjordhorse age
This message is from: Kay Van Natta Wow! Thanks, Marsha! I bought my Braveheart pony as a yearling in '99 and joined the list sometime (fairly soon, I think) after that. Time really DOES fly when you're having fun! Kay V. In MI Sent from my iPad > On Jan 20, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Marsha Jo Hannah wrote: > > This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah > > > The question has come up as to how old the FJORDHORSE list is. > Being an "electronic packrat", I rummaged around in my stored email. > There I found a message from Steve, dated 30 March 1998, inviting > me to join his newly-formed list. I did, and have been on it (with > a brief interruption when we moved to Oregon) ever since. > > Thanks, Steve! > > Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- > han...@ai.sri.com anything that can go wrong, will! > 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fjordhorse age
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah The question has come up as to how old the FJORDHORSE list is. Being an "electronic packrat", I rummaged around in my stored email. There I found a message from Steve, dated 30 March 1998, inviting me to join his newly-formed list. I did, and have been on it (with a brief interruption when we moved to Oregon) ever since. Thanks, Steve! Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- han...@ai.sri.com anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Alice MacGillivray I think everyone has covered my fav kids' books. Great nostalgia! Lori's comment below reminds me of the time the one city teacher in the Denman Island two room school house asked the class--in a grammar lesson--"What is a contraction?" Lori wrote: His face assumed that look, "Ask me after class" he replied. But I had immediately recognized the compression of the facial features, and knew I was onto something: "Is it anything like a gelding?" Alice MacGillivray Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Steve McIlree On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gail Russell wrote: > This message is from: Gail Russell > > > It appears that one has to buy the books published between 1945 and 1965 to > get the original illustrations. There seem to be later reprints, but > people complain that the Wesley Dennis Illustrations are in black and > white. > > here is a list of her books. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marguerite_Henry I didn't have the Black Stallion, but I was hooked on the Island Stallion books. Also I loved Brighty of the Grand Canyon.ââ If you are not already familiar with it, ââa very good place to look for older editions of books is AbeBooks (www.abebooks.com). They have good prices and they list inventory from used booksellers across North America and UK. If you cannot find what you want in stock anywhere, you can place a request and you will get an email when any participating merchant gets a copy in. -- Steve It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.-- Aristotle 384-322 BC Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Gail Russell It appears that one has to buy the books published between 1945 and 1965 to get the original illustrations. There seem to be later reprints, but people complain that the Wesley Dennis Illustrations are in black and white. here is a list of her books. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marguerite_Henry Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Diana Calder I'm not sure about the 1993 reprint, but reviews on Amazon indicate that the 2012 reprints aren't the Wesley Dennis illustrations. Also, the Album of Horses isn't one of her stories, it's a collection of breed info, judging by the Amazon description and reviews. You can probably find an ex-library copy of the big, beautiful hard cover editions for a reasonable price. Amazon Marketplace or abebooks.com may be a better option to track them down. For the younger boy, you might want to search out the gorgeous C.W. Anderson books (especially the Billy and Blaze ones) or Walter Farley's Little Black, A Pony series. There's also Big Black Horse, the picture book version of The Black Stallion. Diana On Monday, March 3, 2014, Gail Russell wrote: > This message is from: Gail Russell > > > > Thank you Thank you! > > A question. Ebay has a 1993 reprint that is cheaper than the other Wesley > Dennis illustrated versions. I suspect they cut the number of > illustrations or the color saturation. I would prefer to get the > beautifully illustrated version. I suspect I need a vintage copy. Anyone > know? > > Here is the 1993 version on Ebay. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Album-of-Horses-by-Wesley-Dennis-and-Marguerite-Henry-1993-Paperback-Reprint-/271404869762?pt=US_Childrens_Books&hash=item3f30fda882 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids? Hi Mary O!
This message is from: Kay Van Natta Hi Mary! I used to imagine the same thing on car trips when I was a kid! Riding the Black alongside the car...jumping over fences and ditches, dodging houses and stores and people. I think this may represent the main video game for generations prior to this one. :) Kay Sent from my iPad > On Mar 3, 2014, at 12:30 PM, "Mary Ofjord" wrote: > > This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" > > > When I was a kid, The Black Stallion (and that whole series) topped my > favorite story list! The Marguerite Henry books are terrific > too...especially if you can find the ones illustrated by Wesley Dennis. My > favorite is King of the Wind, which has the added advantage of telling about > the Arabian influence on British thoroughbred bloodlines without it sounding > like there's going to be a test. > > > WOW! Those were my favorite stories too! I used to imagine myself > galloping alongside our car on the Black as we traveled up north to our > cabin. I also enjoyed the Margurite Henry books with their beautiful > illustrations. One of my favorites was Brighty of the Grand Canyon. > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Gail Russell His face assumed that look, "Ask me after class" he replied. But I had immediately recognized the compression of the facial features, and knew I was onto something: "Is it anything like a gelding?" I got an incredible laugh out of this! Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Gail Russell Thank you Thank you! A question. Ebay has a 1993 reprint that is cheaper than the other Wesley Dennis illustrated versions. I suspect they cut the number of illustrations or the color saturation. I would prefer to get the beautifully illustrated version. I suspect I need a vintage copy. Anyone know? Here is the 1993 version on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Album-of-Horses-by-Wesley-Dennis-and-Marguerite-Henry-1993-Paperback-Reprint-/271404869762?pt=US_Childrens_Books&hash=item3f30fda882 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Carol Makosky wrote: > This message is from: Carol Makosky > > > Don't forget the "My Friend Flicka" series. > > > On 3/3/14 11:30 AM, Mary Ofjord wrote: > >> This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" >> >> >> When I was a kid, The Black Stallion (and that whole series) topped >> my >> >> >> WOW! Those were my favorite stories too! >> > > Important FjordHorse List Links: >> Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e >> FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw >> FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > "God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses." >R.B. Cunningham Graham > > Built Fjord Tough > Carol M. > On Golden Pond > N. Wisconsin > Home of Heidi, > The Wonder Pony > > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Lori Albrough On 3/03/14 12:45 PM, Carol Makosky wrote: Don't forget the "My Friend Flicka" series. My Friend Flicka is a great book. I read it first when I was eleven, though, and I wasn't mature enough to understand a fair bit of it. One particularly funny life story comes from when I got to the part in the book where they were gelding the colts. This seemed to be a serious and somewhat sad time at the ranch. But the book never did say, exactly, what "gelding" is. So, I asked: "Mom, what is gelding?" "Well, Lori," she answered, with a somewhat pained expression, "it's when they cut off ... a certain ... part ... of the horse, so they can't breed." She did pretty well huh? Problem was, I heard "can't breathe" not "can't breed". So I pondered. It really didn't seem kind to make them gasp and suffer so. I thought they would surely die, but slowly, painfully. No wonder the hero of the story seemed sad. "Mom, why don't they just kill them?" It just seemed kinder to do it outright. Another, slightly more pained expression, "Because they want to ride them!" After this I didn't know what to say, and I did go away thinking for a while that geldings were horses with reduced passage of air. Until later that year, when we read "Shane" in school. Another good book, but it prompted another question which I raised my hand to ask one day in school. "Sir, what is a steer?" His face assumed that look, "Ask me after class" he replied. But I had immediately recognized the compression of the facial features, and knew I was onto something: "Is it anything like a gelding?" After that I went to the dictionary with my questions :) Lori -- Lori Albrough Bluebird Lane Fjords R.R.#3 Moorefield Ont Canada N0G 2K0 phone: 519-638-5598 email: l...@bluebirdlane.com http://www.bluebirdlane.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Carol Makosky Don't forget the "My Friend Flicka" series. On 3/3/14 11:30 AM, Mary Ofjord wrote: This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" When I was a kid, The Black Stallion (and that whole series) topped my WOW! Those were my favorite stories too! Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l -- "God forbid that I should go to any heaven in which there are no horses." R.B. Cunningham Graham Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin Home of Heidi, The Wonder Pony Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Me Kint Gail, another series that is great for any age young kids are the Beatrice Potter books: Peter Rabbit, Flopsy Bunnies, Benjamin Bunny, & many more. My very young grandsons loved them as well as daughters when young... When a child really likes a book, they will want you to read the same book repeatedly. I practically had the Tailor of Gloucester memorized... These books teach vocabulary at an early age. In kindergarten, my kids scored very high in testing because of these books Kids love to be read to. This is the beginning of valuable interaction, investment of time. I have found it's the beginning of a child becoming a good reader. I enjoyed reading books with them as well. Mary >From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" When I was a kid, The Black Stallion (and that whole series) topped my favorite story list! The Marguerite Henry books are terrific too...especially if you can find the ones illustrated by Wesley Dennis. My favorite is King of the Wind, which has the added advantage of telling about the Arabian influence on British thoroughbred bloodlines without it sounding like there's going to be a test. WOW! Those were my favorite stories too! I used to imagine myself galloping alongside our car on the Black as we traveled up north to our cabin. I also enjoyed the Margurite Henry books with their beautiful illustrations. One of my favorites was Brighty of the Grand Canyon. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Kay Van Natta
Hi Gail!
When I was a kid, The Black Stallion (and that whole series) topped my
favorite story list! Those should be a hit with your granddaughter as well and
should also be something she could read on her own. Black Beauty is a tougher
read with a lot of British references that may need explanation for a young
American reader. Great lit but a hard solo.
The Marguerite Henry books are terrific too...especially if you can find
the ones illustrated by Wesley Dennis. My favorite is King of the Wind, which
has the added advantage of telling about the Arabian influence on British
thoroughbred bloodlines without it sounding like there's going to be a test.
Without knowing your grandson, it's hard to say what would be appropriate.
He's pretty young. With guys you can't count on love of horses to overcome
developmental realities. On his own, you might want to stick with picture
books and don't wrinkle your nose...there's some great stuff out there. If you
know a real librarian ("media specialists" usually know more about computers
than kiddie lit), ask her/him for some suggestions in (and out of) your
grandson's interest areas.
I'm just sorry you're not in a position to read to the kids. The
experience is enriching for everybody involved. You'd be able to bring life
and drama to the text and they can ask questions, make comments and see in
person that someone they love considers reading a valuable activity. In
addition to getting to know them better, you'd be making memories together that
they'd have for the rest of their lives.
Good luck!
Kay in MI
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> On Mar 3, 2014, at 1:55 AM, Gail Russell wrote:
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> This message is from: Gail Russell
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> OKI am sitting here with a pages-yellowed copy of The Black Stallion by
> Walter Farley. I am contemplating whether or not to send it off to my
> coming 9 year old very-good-reader granddaughter. Or, to send it (or a
> second copy) to my 6 year old grandson.
>
> And, then there is Black Beauty and other classic horse books.
>
> Anyone have any opinions on when to give these classics to kids.
>
> I would like to be able to read them to the kids, but, realistically, never
> have significant amounts of time with them to read a book like this
> through.
>
> Gail
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Age appropriate horse books for grandkids?
This message is from: Gail Russell OKI am sitting here with a pages-yellowed copy of The Black Stallion by Walter Farley. I am contemplating whether or not to send it off to my coming 9 year old very-good-reader granddaughter. Or, to send it (or a second copy) to my 6 year old grandson. And, then there is Black Beauty and other classic horse books. Anyone have any opinions on when to give these classics to kids. I would like to be able to read them to the kids, but, realistically, never have significant amounts of time with them to read a book like this through. Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Ladies of a younger age
This message is from: Sarah Clarke While ladies of a certain age were enjoying one kind of camp, I had 7 girls ages 7 to 17 enjoying a day camp with fjords and a couple of "honorary fjords." It's hard to condense 5 days of dressage, polo, jumping, trail obstacles, etc into a few short words or a few pictures. Gabe was my official cameraman and took about 200 pictures. I think the polo ones were my favorites, as well as several of Nika and the Bianca - the girl who rode her this week. The low point was when we were out on trail and the ponies were trotting up hill ahead of me, and I walked into the cloud of angry yellow jackets that they stirred up. I have recovered mostly but it was a rough afternoon. But the weather was good, the girls (ages 7 to 17) were delightful and everyone had a good time. Everybody is really gung-ho to do it again next year and the little sister of one girl wants to come next year. Things went well considering it was my first attempt. It put the pony business into the black at least one month of the year. Next year I may do 2 sessions - with a month in between to recover. Nika's participation was particularly special since she was bitten on the nose by a rattlesnake in May and nearly died. But a blood transfusion and 2 months later she was high point all around pony of the mini-camp. Pictures can be found at: http://www.freewebs.com/sarahmagdalenclarke/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Ladies Of a Certain Age Retreat and Fjords
This message is from: Bonnie MacCurdy I have such great memories of the wonderful folks at Trinity Fjords and all the exciting things I got to do in Canada with other ladies of a certain age! Driving the four was super fun as was floating peacefully down the river and floating above the trees. That trip was one of the highlights of my life. Best wishes to you all and thanks again, Bonnie MacCurdy From: Ursula Jensen To: fjordhorse-dig...@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:54 PM Subject: Ladies Of a Certain Age Retreat and Fjords This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" Yearly, Fjord ladies with certain high standards of wine, chocolate, food and socializing meet for four days at Trinity Fjords with Ursula Jensen as the hostess. The guest cabin fills, plus the spare bedroom and the motor home. As well our two grooms Wanda and Julie, now accomplished drivers, come as well. Needless to say there is a lot of female energy about, however Dave and I do find places to hide! We show up at appropriate times for food and beverages. Mornings were dedicated to driving Fjords here in, single, three pairs, a unicorn and the four-up. Ursula, Julie and Wanda are practicing for the BC Seniors Games Equestrian events which has a driving mini-CDE component, and then our local Interior Provincial Exhibition with 150,000 folks watching us drive for five days in about 32 classes. Who says ageing has anything to do with it!!! However, in the afternoons they breakaway to lakes, pools, and rivers for floating and kayaking. The nice part about it is that we Fjord folk have a special appeal in the neighborhood, so we are invited out for afternoon drinks and evening meals at local homes. Hard to turn down this sort of ambiance and hospitality. I most go get ready as they will be racing in from the lake for their first set of invitational drinks. Jumping from swim suits to evening wear and again blasting off for a great evening. The lady winning the furthest travelled is from the Carolina's. Life does have its good moments!! Brian J Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Ladies Of a Certain Age Retreat and Fjords
This message is from: Melinda What fun! Melinda Dublin Ohio On Jul 28, 2013, at 6:54 PM, "Ursula Jensen" wrote: > This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" > > > Yearly, Fjord ladies with certain high standards of wine, chocolate, food > and socializing meet for four days at Trinity Fjords with Ursula Jensen as > the hostess. The guest cabin fills, plus the spare bedroom and the motor > home. As well our two grooms Wanda and Julie, now accomplished drivers, come > as well. Needless to say there is a lot of female energy about, however Dave > and I do find places to hide! We show up at appropriate times for food > and beverages. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Ladies Of a Certain Age Retreat and Fjords
This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" Yearly, Fjord ladies with certain high standards of wine, chocolate, food and socializing meet for four days at Trinity Fjords with Ursula Jensen as the hostess. The guest cabin fills, plus the spare bedroom and the motor home. As well our two grooms Wanda and Julie, now accomplished drivers, come as well. Needless to say there is a lot of female energy about, however Dave and I do find places to hide! We show up at appropriate times for food and beverages. Mornings were dedicated to driving Fjords here in, single, three pairs, a unicorn and the four-up. Ursula, Julie and Wanda are practicing for the BC Seniors Games Equestrian events which has a driving mini-CDE component, and then our local Interior Provincial Exhibition with 150,000 folks watching us drive for five days in about 32 classes. Who says ageing has anything to do with it!!! However, in the afternoons they breakaway to lakes, pools, and rivers for floating and kayaking. The nice part about it is that we Fjord folk have a special appeal in the neighborhood, so we are invited out for afternoon drinks and evening meals at local homes. Hard to turn down this sort of ambiance and hospitality. I most go get ready as they will be racing in from the lake for their first set of invitational drinks. Jumping from swim suits to evening wear and again blasting off for a great evening. The lady winning the furthest travelled is from the Carolina's. Life does have its good moments!! Brian J Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Spooking/training/age/Fjord personality
This message is from: "Mary Ofjord" " I bought Miss Osa just before her 5th birthday and this spring she will be 18!!! Wow where did that time go? She came to me a green trail horse. I swear that spooking was just a game to her the first few years. I could just feel her having way too good a time. It took lots of time in the saddle as well as age before she was a steady trail buddy. I think she was at least 10 before I considered her "grown up" in her mind." This sounds exactly like my horse Vedas, who will be 20 this spring! I got her when she was just five, green as grass, and part of the deal when I bought her was the seller would put 30 days training on her! I was in no way at that time in my horsemanship or riding skills able to take on a green broke horse, but I did and we got throught it. She would look at things to see if they might make spook. She is also a horse that goes better with contact rather than a loose rein. I believe she gets security from that feel. She, too, also gave up on the "Famous Vedas Spook" after she became more mature, and so did her rider, and I also got to learn how to ride out a spook from a very good teacher. Since were sharing spooking/bolting stories, I'd like to share another tale; we always go out for a ride on New Year's Day - no matter how cold, we go. This New Year's Day turned out not too cold at around 20 degrees, but it was terribly windy. We invited a friend to come with us, who is not as experienced at riding as my friend and me, so I put her on my best, most trustworthy horse, Mirage. I should also mention the horses hadn't been ridden in probably three weeks and they were anxious to get out and do something. We rode through the woods because it was less windy down in the creek bottom. Everything was going along very well. The little mare that I was riding got to go in the lead for awhile and she was quite jumpy, (Trees cracking, brush moving) but did everything asked of her. We call her our Arab in a Fjord suit. We were heading back towards the barn and going down through a little draw when I saw Mirage pick up his pace from behind me. (I'm always riding all the horses if someone is out on my animals.) He went into a trot, then a faster trot, and I could see our friend's hands come up in the air, holding onto the reins, heels starting to point skyward, going into the fetal position. I could see Mirage thinking "You're not the boss of me. I can go as fast as I want!" and he broke into a canter. Our friend bailed off, luckily into some deep drifted snow, but she was shaken and bruised on her hip. The other two horses thought they probably should have gone with Mirage too. My mare gave a little squeal and shook her head, and I took the left rein and asked her to disengage, which she did, and came to a nice stop so I could dismount! At least it worked this time! The other mare thought about leaving, but it looked like too much energy and was glad to stay with us. Luckily, the other friend that was with us is an EMT and made sure the "dumpee" was okay before we continued towards home - only about 1/3 mile away. The gal that got dumped said emphatically that she knew it wasn't Mirage's fault, and she was worried about where he might have gone. I told her not to worry about him, he'll go back to the barn and my husband will take care of him. He'll be okay. We probably stayed in the draw for about ten minutes, to make sure the gal was okay enough to wade through the knee deep snow back to the barn. None of us are spring chickens. When we started up the hill, I heard the EMT call out, "Here's Mirage!" He had cantered up to the top of the hill, and instead of going home, he found some juicy grasses just below the surface of the snow and was happily munching away. I think he was waiting around for us to come and get him. Mirage: (why go back to the barn when there's nice juicy grass here and I don't have to share!) Mary O. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6855 (20120203) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Grabbson / age
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/14/2008 3:29:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thank you, Lisa, for sharing this news. > > My heart is so sad to hear that this stallion is, once again, needing a new > home. If I recall, he is quite old? > > I have no money to purchase him, nor do I have the experience to handle a > stallion, but, I sure hope someone in the fjord world will provide Grabbson > with a place to live out his years. > Thanks Linda. Grabbson is 23 years young. He is far from old IMHO. We have the honor of standing another aged stallion here, Leidjo, from Anvil's Acres, age 25. I have not ever seen a healthier, more beautiful example of aged studs, and he is still producing wonderful foals for us and enjoying his harum here. Last year, Leidjo gave us 2 beautiful fillys, one grey. I expect another Leidjo foal around June 1, and this year I will be breeding him to several other nice mares. These aged stallions just keep on truckin I wouldnt worry much about his age, more about preserving these nice old bloodlines. Lisa ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: just a home horse person/old age in the country.
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So Jean, If you are in a small enough town, you can move into apartments, and still have a horse nearby to walk and see. Look at 480 Ann Street in Cedarville. We have an "apartment house" (really, just four units) in a town that is so small that you can walk to your horse pasture (probably within a block) and to the senior center, the post office, grocery store, hardware store...all within a few blocks. We do have a vacant unit right now, though I suspect it would be small for you. Maybe there is something like that near you? Somewhere I have the obituary of the 90's ish doctor for the town who just died. She must have been a truly exceptional human being. One of the things the article talked about was her technique for closing scalp cuts. She did not shave the hair. Nor did she stitch the scalp. She just braided the hair from each side of the wound across with the hair on the other side, thereby closing the wound without stitches. Apparently it worked like a charm. She learned how to do this as a missionary doctor in Africa. Took a rifle course in her late 80's and was an exceptional shot. When someone asked her about it, she said something to the effect that "in Africa, you can't afford to miss a lion that is stalking you!" I personally believe that cities are not a good place for the aged if one can find another way. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
training age
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From a trainer's perspective, starting a horse to ride depends a little on the horse and is always MUCH easier when they are physically and mentally ready. When is this??? well.it is different for each horse. I've sent horses home to mature for a year, when they have come in for training and are not ready for it. Many can handle it at age 3, some are not ready until age 4 and some not until 5. Nowshould you just let them sit and not do anything with them until they are ready to have a saddle on them NO!! please NO, especially if you are gonna send them out to a trainer. Nothing worse then working with a 3, 4, 5 yr old horse that has not been handled much. Not fun at all, and let me tell you, i've had my share of Fjords come in this way. No other breed could get away with it like the Fjords. I think they come around easier, but man are they a pain to work with, when they have had little to no handling. I will give my hats off to the owners and the education of the Fjord world. This is getting better. When I started training, more Fjords came in then not, that were unhandled. Now...it's the other way around and WHAT JOY IT IS to get a horse in that has great ground manners, already was taught to do turns on forehand and haunches and side passing from the ground. So...owner's keep up the good work.It really does pay off! I have 2 FULL SIBLING Fjords in for training, one is a coming 5 yr old mare, the other is a coming 4 yr old gelding. The mare is VERY balanced, VERY matured, really a nice ride -right from day one. She has 4 weeks under her now. The gelding is ready but he is not as matured, is not as balanced and will not get as far as the mare most likely in the training. She just is balanced so most everything is easier for her. The gelding is quieter and more relaxed so in some cases he "knows" more what you want and is very willing to try he just doesn't do it as well. You want to get the most out of your money from training, do the ground work and start them later then sooner, you will not regret it. There is lots you can do from the ground. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers W-- where I'm gonna be a GRANDMA again, my daughter is having her 2nd baby as I type. Soexcited I could not sleep, so went on line to email everyone!! Will let you all know what she has soon www.franciscreekfjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Gelding age....
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have also heard that there is good evidence that geldings grow taller than they would have if left entire. I know 2 examples that support (but don't of course prove) this. My Dutch WB boys - same 16.3h mother similar sized sires: Helios was such a twit we gelded him at 6 months. he reached an honest 17 hands, 1400#. Nepenthe was a sweetie and I didn't get around to gelding him until he was 4 1/2 years. He barely reached 16 hands, 1100#. Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest They actually get BIGGER or a least taller when gelded at a younger age! (And haven't you seen a huge house cat who had been neutered very young? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly cloudy with showers >Hope no one else has already said this! It used to be the concern of Vets >that if you cut too young or before maturity, they would not get their >full growth. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Gelding age....
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So right, Jean. I have two Huge House Cats [17 + lbs each] to prove it. Bye, Peg - Original Message - From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Gelding age This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They actually get BIGGER or a least taller when gelded at a younger age! (And haven't you seen a huge house cat who had been neutered very young? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly cloudy with showers Hope no one else has already said this! It used to be the concern of Vets that if you cut too young or before maturity, they would not get their full growth.
Re: Gelding age....
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They actually get BIGGER or a least taller when gelded at a younger age! (And haven't you seen a huge house cat who had been neutered very young? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly cloudy with showers Hope no one else has already said this! It used to be the concern of Vets that if you cut too young or before maturity, they would not get their full growth.
Re: Gelding age....
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hope no one else has already said this! It used to be the concern of Vets that if you cut too young or before maturity, they would not get their full growth. My huge Trakehner was cut at 11months (after he properly mounted his dam after one month of"weaning") ((he was so big he would get down on his knees to suckle and it was the embarrassment of the neighborhood)) and the Vet still swears, altho the horse was 17 3 1/4, that his neck would have been thicker if we had waited. Jean Gayle Author 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520
Re: Gelding age....
This message is from: "Beth Pulsifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Aimee, I agree... Any young ones we've had we've gelded at four or five mo. and wean between five and six mo. depending on how both mare and foal are doing. Haven't had any babies for quite awhile ... :( The ones we have had were either arabs or welsh no Fjords... darn!! :) Wish I'd known then what I know now although I have just absolutely loved my arabs and our little welsh mare Wonderful animals... Am really hooked on Lizbet tho...:) If I were younger there would be more little Lizbets around!! :) Have a great day..Hope it's as nice in Garland as it is here... Beth ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08/08/06 07:42:54 To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Gelding age This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/7/2006 9:44:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The vet won't geld him at this age. He says he's too young. Now he would prefer not to geld until a year, but I don't want to wait that long. Hi Ellen, I've been following your posts. I had a fjord colt that was VERY studdy from day ONE. No one in the herd was happy about it eitherHe was 4 months old, (a long time for the herd to deal with this) well dropped, and needed to be cut - in my eyes. So I called my vet. He wasn't really convinced this FJORD was readynumber one he said they are normally so short it's hard for him to do - this baby was TALL, not a problem therethen his next excuse was he probably didn't have both testicles down YES he did I assured him. He came out and did him - at 4 months. He told me this baby was the same size as the coming 2 yr old (some other breed) he just did the day before..Now when I call at 4 months he comes right out. I like to geld them while they are still nursing, I think it's less stressful for them. I wean between 5-6 months depending upon the baby and the dam. I have gelded 5 colts at 4 months with NO problems and was quite happy to have done it that early. Just throwing in my 2 cents :) Aimee Day Days End Fjords Garland ME. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of IMSTP.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type Image/jpeg which had a name of BackGrnd33.jpg]
RE: Gelding age....
This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Amy, I, too, like to geld while still nursing..just makes sense. Prefer to wean at 5-6 months as well..by then I have put baby in with a gelding - away from mom - for a few hours during the day and just elongate that time until I simply don't take him back to mama. Worked like a charm. We're on the same page today :) LJBL in WI Linda Baker Lottie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Gelding age Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 07:39:10 EDT This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/7/2006 9:44:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The vet won't geld him at this age. He says he's too young. Now he would prefer not to geld until a year, but I don't want to wait that long. Hi Ellen, I've been following your posts. I had a fjord colt that was VERY studdy from day ONE. No one in the herd was happy about it eitherHe was 4 months old, (a long time for the herd to deal with this) well dropped, and needed to be cut - in my eyes. So I called my vet. He wasn't really convinced this FJORD was readynumber one he said they are normally so short it's hard for him to do - this baby was TALL, not a problem therethen his next excuse was he probably didn't have both testicles down YES he did I assured him. He came out and did him - at 4 months. He told me this baby was the same size as the coming 2 yr old (some other breed) he just did the day before..Now when I call at 4 months he comes right out. I like to geld them while they are still nursing, I think it's less stressful for them. I wean between 5-6 months depending upon the baby and the dam. I have gelded 5 colts at 4 months with NO problems and was quite happy to have done it that early. Just throwing in my 2 cents :) Aimee Day Days End Fjords Garland ME.
Gelding age....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/7/2006 9:44:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The vet won't geld him at this age. He says he's too young. Now he would prefer not to geld until a year, but I don't want to wait that long. Hi Ellen, I've been following your posts. I had a fjord colt that was VERY studdy from day ONE. No one in the herd was happy about it eitherHe was 4 months old, (a long time for the herd to deal with this) well dropped, and needed to be cut - in my eyes. So I called my vet. He wasn't really convinced this FJORD was readynumber one he said they are normally so short it's hard for him to do - this baby was TALL, not a problem therethen his next excuse was he probably didn't have both testicles down YES he did I assured him. He came out and did him - at 4 months. He told me this baby was the same size as the coming 2 yr old (some other breed) he just did the day before..Now when I call at 4 months he comes right out. I like to geld them while they are still nursing, I think it's less stressful for them. I wean between 5-6 months depending upon the baby and the dam. I have gelded 5 colts at 4 months with NO problems and was quite happy to have done it that early. Just throwing in my 2 cents :) Aimee Day Days End Fjords Garland ME.
RE: age to breed
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks! I'm really not trying to rush into breeding. I've already bred Lipizzans, (I had 5 foals over 10 years - so I have a clue about the process.) The last time I did that I was boarding elsewhere as I am now...and it's too expensive to breed while boarding. Right now some of the horses are on free leases and doing well with those arrangements. I'd rather breed at home, but I don't have a proper barn/stable yet. I'm not sure whether I'll be able to put one up here on the property or whether I should. I adopted two kids in 2002, who are 6 and 8 and taking lessons now. It might be fun to do this as they get older but I didn't want to breed the older mares if they were too old, and I'm not sure that I will keep all the horses I might sell/place one or two. I've been trying to work all of this out for the past year and it just seems unbelievably complicated. I have the land but I also have a lot of wetlands and the zoning is rather tricky. I may have to cut down lots of trees to build a barn from scratch - which may not be affordable. I have fields but there is too much grass and the fields are pretty far from the house and too close to the pond. I have visions of trudging through them in New England blizzards to check on the horses...not my idea of a fun time. I also run a fairly large kennel of toy dogs and finding affordable help to take care of dogs, horses and kids could get tricky. Anyone who wants a live-in job doing this is welcome to apply! Ha, ha. I think the horses are great and I'm delighted that they have joined my family. I love the breed. They remind me a bit of Lipizzans in their shape, size and temperament and they are a great family horse to have around. Anyway, I'm in no rush...and in some ways that is the problem...so it's good to have parameters to consider. I really appreciate all the input I've been getting from everyone both on the list and privately! Vanessa Weber Westbrook, CT ---Original Message--- From: M Korose Date: 7/15/2006 11:38:32 AM To: Email list reply Subject: RE: age to breed This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sure Curt would be chiming in if he were here, he is at the NY Fjord show this weekend. We had two mares here last year for breeding, they were 3, looked very mature (much more than my 3 year old). One bred very easily and had a beautiful foal this spring, the other just would not take. SHe was back for breeding this year, all went well. We do not breed our horses till they seem mature to us and willing. We bred our (not as mature last year) three year old this year. We have 3 3year olds now and altho one is very mature looking, we do not breed our 3 year olds. We had a 3 year old come for breeding a few years back and she looked immature to me, sure enuf, she never would have anything to do with the stallion. ALtho it is the owner's perogative we don't push horses (last year's 3-year old owner was understanding) as it is a bit of a hazard for us, too. We also bred a maiden mare last year who was 9. She had a lovely colt this year. When you are venturing into the breeding area, pick your FIRST foray with experienced breeders. You can learn alot about breeding cycles, proper vet attention for a successful breeding and how to look at the pedigrees (or evals if available) for the best choices. We have had a mare here as little as 2 weeks when an owner is knowlegable about their mare and works with their (and our) vet as neccesary. my 2 cents Marsha (in WV this weekend, horse sitting, will be 95-100 later this week:-O) Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. - - Text inserted by Platinum 2006: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://127.0.0 1:6083/Panda?ID=pav_39677&SPAM=true - -
RE: age to breed
This message is from: M Korose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sure Curt would be chiming in if he were here, he is at the NY Fjord show this weekend. We had two mares here last year for breeding, they were 3, looked very mature (much more than my 3 year old). One bred very easily and had a beautiful foal this spring, the other just would not take. SHe was back for breeding this year, all went well. We do not breed our horses till they seem mature to us and willing. We bred our (not as mature last year) three year old this year. We have 3 3year olds now and altho one is very mature looking, we do not breed our 3 year olds. We had a 3 year old come for breeding a few years back and she looked immature to me, sure enuf, she never would have anything to do with the stallion. ALtho it is the owner's perogative we don't push horses (last year's 3-year old owner was understanding) as it is a bit of a hazard for us, too. We also bred a maiden mare last year who was 9. She had a lovely colt this year. When you are venturing into the breeding area, pick your FIRST foray with experienced breeders. You can learn alot about breeding cycles, proper vet attention for a successful breeding and how to look at the pedigrees (or evals if available) for the best choices. We have had a mare here as little as 2 weeks when an owner is knowlegable about their mare and works with their (and our) vet as neccesary. my 2 cents Marsha (in WV this weekend, horse sitting, will be 95-100 later this week:-O) Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
RE: Age of mare at first foaling
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vanessa, Have a vet give her a good physical first, then ask HIM/HER for their opinion. If the mare is healthy, there should be absolutely not reason not to. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396
Re: Age of mare at first foaling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/14/2006 1:39:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My personal minimum age to breed is age 4...preferably age 5. * * * * * * Well Said Fred! I too prefer to wait till a mare is 4 before breeding her for the first time. I will admit that SOME mares may mature faster mentally and can be bred at 3 to foal as a 4 year old, but in most cases waiting is better. Like you I had a very bad experience with a filly accidentally being bred way too young (long ago when I was a kid), and we ended up losing the foal because the mare was very protective of it but refused to let it nurse. Fjord live nice long lives, there is plenty of time in a mare's life to have foals! I know of quite a number of Fjord mare in their 20's still having babies! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords 260 May Creek Rd Days Creek, OR 97429 541-825-3303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: Age of mare at first foaling
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Fred, Thanks for the feedback. Do you have a maximum age that a mare should be bred for the first time? I know that in dogs we hesitate to breed if the bitch is over 4 or 5 for the first time. Would you have any reservations if I bred a mare for the first time at age 15, for example? Best, Vanessa ---Original Message--- From: Frederick J Pack Date: 7/14/2006 11:59:03 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: Age of mare at first foaling This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Vanessa, In most ways it depends on the maturity of the mare. Some of my mares have not really matured, and are ready for motherhood until age 5. IMHO anything younger can still be considered a teenager. Fjords seem to mature later than other breeds. IMHO, age 4 is minimum age to expect a mare to be mature enough to be a good mother. I bred one mare too young and she was a pure b*tch as a mother and I almost lost the foal as a result of her immaturity. I would add that I would breed at age 4 (if I considered the mare mature enough) so the mare will be 5 when the foal is born. My personal minimum age to breed is age 4...preferably age 5. Breeding at an older age has yielded better foals. I look forward to others opinions and experiences. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 : Age of mare at first foaling This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, I wondered if you could let me know what age range you think is appropriate for a mare to be bred and foal for the first time. - - Text inserted by Platinum 2006: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://127.0.0 1:6083/Panda?ID=pav_39262&SPAM=true - -
RE: Age of mare at first foaling
This message is from: "Frederick J Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Vanessa, In most ways it depends on the maturity of the mare. Some of my mares have not really matured, and are ready for motherhood until age 5. IMHO anything younger can still be considered a teenager. Fjords seem to mature later than other breeds. IMHO, age 4 is minimum age to expect a mare to be mature enough to be a good mother. I bred one mare too young and she was a pure b*tch as a mother and I almost lost the foal as a result of her immaturity. I would add that I would breed at age 4 (if I considered the mare mature enough) so the mare will be 5 when the foal is born. My personal minimum age to breed is age 4...preferably age 5. Breeding at an older age has yielded better foals. I look forward to others opinions and experiences. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 : Age of mare at first foaling This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, I wondered if you could let me know what age range you think is appropriate for a mare to be bred and foal for the first time.
Age of mare at first foaling
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, I wondered if you could let me know what age range you think is appropriate for a mare to be bred and foal for the first time. I'm as interested in how old she can be as what a suitable younger age is. I've inherited 4 mares, who are now 3, 4, 11 and 12 years of age. I am not yet ready to breed any of them and am not sure when I will be, but I want to consider their ages as part of my overall plans for this crew. Any information and advice would be appreciated. You can e-mail me privately if you wish at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks, Vanessa N Weber Westbrook, CT
Re: age: The Old Horsewoman
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When I am an old Horsewoman: I shall wear turquoise and diamonds, And a straw hat that doesn't suit me And I shall spend my social security on white wine and carrots, And sit in my alley-way of my barn and listen to my horses breathe I will sneak out in the middle of a summer night And ride the old bay gelding, Across the moonstruck meadow If my old bones will allow And when people come to call, I will smile and nod As I walk past the gardens to the barn and show instead the flowers growing inside stalls fresh-lined with straw I will shovel and sweat and wear hay in my hair as if it were a jewel And I will be an embarrassment to all, Who will not yet have found the peace in being free to have a horse as a best friend? A friend who waits at midnight hour with muzzle and nicker and patient eyes For the kind of woman I will be when I am old ~Author Unknown >and to also prove wrong my less than supportive DH, who suggested perhaps i > >was too old (turning 60 this year) to still want to play with horses. >perhaps i > >should sell him and keep the horse. > >laurie
age
This message is from: "mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and to also prove wrong my less than supportive DH, who suggested perhaps i was too old (turning 60 this year) to still want to play with horses. perhaps i should sell him and keep the horse. laurie -- You go, girl! riding/driving is what keeps us young and going! I've got SEVERAL years on you and am just getting started! Sue Freivald
Re: height, age and Minnesota Horse Expo!!!!!
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My first fjord, Sven, is 13.3 and PERFECTwe use him primarily for driving but he is ridden. Lena is a little taller, rides and drives (14.hh) Sven is 18 yrs this year and Mr. Steady Eddy.Lena is 11 and truly in her prime. Both are so wonderful I can't stand it - :):):) Hasse...coming 4 is proving to be every bit as wonderful as him mom, Lena. Soon he will start under saddle. Driving...he is a doll and LOVES to go and see. Hasse's grandfather? Grabbson:) Sven is out of Anvil's Toby (Hotovy's in Michigan) sadly, deceased. LenaGrabbson. BTW..the Minnesota Horse Expo is the last weekend in April.we have a full row of fjords, including several brown dun, a new foal, a gray and a white dun mare. How fun is that Do stop by and see us. ATTENTION!! We will need HELP on Thursday for set-up. If you can spare a couple hours anytime after 10am.PLEASE, come help. It is a really fun day, laid back, exciting as all the horses arrive.and free:) We are located in the horse barn, same stalls...my cell is 612-716-5861 if you need to call/are lost/ Come join in the fun!! Linda Baker Lottie and Kristin Lee and all the gang!! On 4/11/06 8:58 AM, "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > As far as age of the Fjord horse and their product - ability. Hostar is 19 > TODAY! .. > > Everyone say Happy Birthday to Hostar!..and this horse is as > youth full and alive as they come. I have been riding him everyday and he is > sound and bright and happy and without a doubt one of the most pleasurable > horses to be around. > > DO NOT ever dismiss a Fjord due to age. They only get better with time. And > if anyone who owns a Fjord with experience by virtue of his/her age consider > it a blessing. > > As far as the mare that is for sale and only 13-3 > > Do not dismiss the smaller Fjord either - I love the 13-3 types. Of course > I am not tall myself, but there is allot of good things in those smaller > packages. > > Right now I have a little 13-3 mare in for training and she is a doll! I > started her last fall in driving and when she came back this spring was > exactly where I left off with her. She is by Rokida's Markus - ( I tell you > those Rokida's are great) - a full brother to the great (deceased Rokida's > Haakon) and out of a mare by "Thorvald I" (not to be confused with Thorvald, > the import from Green Valley Farm). > "Thorvald I "was a stallion bred by Harold Jacobsen - with Grabb and King > Haakon lines. I've come to really appreciate some of those old lines. > Brains, willingness to please, great work ethics.old or small no > matter ..it's what's between the ears that count. > > Happily training and have a good spring do so. > Pat Holland
Re: age and height & a Birthday!
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As far as age of the Fjord horse and their product - ability. Hostar is 19 TODAY! .. Everyone say Happy Birthday to Hostar!..and this horse is as youth full and alive as they come. I have been riding him everyday and he is sound and bright and happy and without a doubt one of the most pleasurable horses to be around. DO NOT ever dismiss a Fjord due to age. They only get better with time. And if anyone who owns a Fjord with experience by virtue of his/her age consider it a blessing. As far as the mare that is for sale and only 13-3 Do not dismiss the smaller Fjord either - I love the 13-3 types. Of course I am not tall myself, but there is allot of good things in those smaller packages. Right now I have a little 13-3 mare in for training and she is a doll! I started her last fall in driving and when she came back this spring was exactly where I left off with her. She is by Rokida's Markus - ( I tell you those Rokida's are great) - a full brother to the great (deceased Rokida's Haakon) and out of a mare by "Thorvald I" (not to be confused with Thorvald, the import from Green Valley Farm). "Thorvald I "was a stallion bred by Harold Jacobsen - with Grabb and King Haakon lines. I've come to really appreciate some of those old lines. Brains, willingness to please, great work ethics.old or small no matter ..it's what's between the ears that count. Happily training and have a good spring do so. Pat Holland
fjord age
This message is from: "mom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MVF Venn is 21 this June and the people where I board all think he's just the cutest young thing! He has apparently had good care all his life (I got him when he was 15 and the farrier/vet thought he was 6!) and he is sound, willing, and occasionally full of himself. He keeps up with--and often passes--the other horses on the trail and has great recovery. I ride, drive and am starting to do some light draft work with him. Of course we are equivalently about the same age, and I think _I'm_ only 23 (instead of 68). Consistent vet and farrier care, good nutrition. attention paid to teeth, and TLC/Companionship are hard to beat in keep either one/both of us younger than our years. Sue F.
Fjord Age
This message is from: Lisa Sherrodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks so much for the reply to my question about the Fjord age. I have my eye on a 20 year old mare to use for one of my daughters. My husband was concerned about getting a horse that old. I had a feeling that Fjords lived rather long. I really like the looks of this mare, so hopefully I can now convince my husband! She is a Solar daughter. Thanks, Lisa Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Fjord age?
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Lisa, I have a 31 year old gelding and a 29 year old mare (Fjords of corse) The mare is very active yet, looks and acts like a much younger horse. Old Bjarne had a much harder life before I got hi with a shoulder infection which resulted in surgery (staph infection) but after that he has been in pretty good shape. Some arthritis and he is stiff when he first gets up (aren't we all?). I don't ride him any more but I do ride Stella. Bjorken, Stella's son who I raised, will be 19 this ear and I still think of him as my "baby" , he is in his prime in my opinion. So that 20 year old mare could give you 10 good years with good care and luck. i, >Can anyone tell me what is the usual life-span for a >Fjord.? What kind of prospects would a 20 year old >mare have that has had good care? Just curious. >Thanks, >Lisa
Fjord age?
This message is from: Lisa Sherrodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Can anyone tell me what is the usual life-span for a Fjord.? What kind of prospects would a 20 year old mare have that has had good care? Just curious. Thanks, Lisa Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Max. Age of Fjords?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We were once informed by Lindsay Sweeny that the sire of our (now retired) senior stallion Ring (whose name was Apollo) was still alive and servicing mares in Norway at 40. Bill Coli Blue Heron Farm Charlemont, MA
Re: age of Fjords
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Everyone, > > How long do Fjords usually live? > > Vanessa > The good ones not long enough - the not so good ones too long. With a bit of humor left over from Blue Earth Pat Holland By the way, ..I also have TWO helmets I picked up on the grounds Thursday prior to leaving. If anyone is missing any contact me privately.
Re: Age
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:39 PM 7/30/2005, you wrote: This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, who are the "record-holders" (male and female), now? I get the impression that mares outlive geldings. Well these are not confirmed but the records show the mare owned by Ramona Johnson as the oldest: HULDA RR-J-032-M Foaled January 1, 1970 Bred by RON ROUSE, AK STEINBU N-1416 2.pr SANKO N-1522 2.pr BRAGDA N-10793 2.pr BUCK C-34 CFS UNKNOWN SIRE Purdy Mare UNKNOWN DAM LEUNG N-1485 3.pr SOLVFAST N-1557 2.pr HEIDIS N-10149 2.pr THORA C-36 UNKNOWN SIRE Purdy Mare UNKNOWN DAM and the oldest stallion owned by Ester Minty: SIGRUD AFS-K-164-S Foaled January 1, 1971 Bred by BOB PURDY, WY LEUNG N-1485 3.pr SOLVFAST N-1557 2.pr HEIDIS N-10149 2.pr #71 (28 Ranch) TORGNY N-1474 LEIKA N-12082 DENORA N-9584 STEINBU N-1416 2.pr SANKO N-1522 2.pr BRAGDA N-10793 2.pr #72 OR #77 (Purdy mares) SOLVFAST N-1557 2.pr #42 OR #7 MONA N-12080 / EDLA N-12079 === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Age
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How long do Fjords usually live? Mid- to high-20's isn't unusual; low thirties seems to be the high end of the range. Somewhere, there's a web site that lists the records--- I recall that there were a few high 30's and low 40's. I lost my old Fjord mare, Nansy, at age 32. For the few years preceeding that, she was the oldest NFHR-registered Fjord. I'm told that her mother, Skade (who was NFA-registered), made 34. Mike, who are the "record-holders" (male and female), now? I get the impression that mares outlive geldings. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Age
This message is from: "Vanessa N Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, How long do Fjords usually live? Vanessa
old age/rding and Patti Walter
This message is from: "Debby Stai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Patti Jo did a wonderful job working and training with Lang, she brought out the best in him. I know it was rough at first but this guy is sensitive and wants to please and Patti Jo found that in him, and this at 2 and 3 yrs. of age. If anyone, everyone, needs a horse worked with, Patti Jo is your person. She is great. And she has a knack for pairing horses with people. Thanks Patti, you go girl! and be careful out there! Debby
Old age/riding
This message is from: "Dave and Patti Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thought I'd jump in on the conversion of riding when we get older. I also "lost" a couple of the digests, so not sure how I got involved except I read how Laurie thought I'd come and get Oz. :-) Don't Worry Lori, I KNOW you are a wonderful owner and Love Oz and treat him very well and YOU DO ride him more than a lot of other people. I know you have taken him to several clinics, have had several lessons and you brought him to B.E. that is more than a lot of owners. So, give yourself credit where credit is due. I also know I perhaps have more guts than some riders, pr perhaps it's just lack of brains. I'm not always sure. I do know i have a need for speed and a need for adventure. I really do think of safety too, believe it or not. Like Saturday I wanted to go riding, but I am sick of all the ice under the snow. There are only a few place you can go out of walk safely, SO.I thought what fun can I have! There is a path thru our neighbors woods that leads to a creek. I LOVE riding over that creek in the winter when it's frozen. I, know this is gonna sound terrible, but I LOVE it when the ice gives way and you will find out what your horse is made out of. BEING of Sound mind and wanting to be safe I took Ole. You see I've done this with Ole and with Silas, the only two Fjords I'm riding right now. Silas, well, he will jump for the bank on the other side, not the safest. Ole he will stand like a rock if the ice gives way. The creek is shallow,it's not like we're dropping any great distance. Lang, Debbi's Fjord will or did Stand like a rock too, and I swear he said, "ok what do you want me to do now." When I had him in for training. So, like I said I took Ole. He was fun and well the ice was too thick so we just crossed it -there was snow covering it, so it wasn't like I was riding on pure ice. He was a wonderful mount and all in all it was a great ride. We found a nice field with rolling hills that didn't have as much ice underneath so I could trot and canter. Ole was happy to just to get out and about. I know I'm insane. BUT for all you out there the only advice I can give is to keep pushing yourself. Try and stay fit, it's really hard when you get out of shape, your balance gets off and riding is a feel. I know when I blew my knee out it was harder to ride as I wasn't quite balanced after surgery, but just keep plugging away and keep riding! Oh by the way , I"M OLD. I'm a MORMOR remember!!! :-) And I want to be riding when i'm 80 too!! You go girl!!! Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI -where the temps are PERFECT for Winter Riding this Week!!!
Re: age & a good book
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At age 64, I am somewhat reluctant to ride a green horse, Rondi - I would have never known you were 64! Not that - that is old by any means, but the way you speak and the conversations we've had privately I wouldn't have guessed! I don't know if anyone spoke of the book "It's not JUST About The Ribbons" by Jane Savoie. But it is very good. I think Marcy Baer put me on to it - Thank you Marcy - I'm not much into reading books on riding and so forth, but I found this one especially interesting. And for ME, where all my life it WAS about the ribbons - it was especially thought provoking. Worth the purchase. Pat Holland, where... For the first time in a long time the ice is melting. So maybe for you folks up north - your Polar Ice cap will soon be gone - with the exception of Mary Ofjord and Philis Anderson where they will be knee deep yet in July
Re: Riding with age and a good horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/31/2005 5:41:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Riding the right horse is so important when you've been away from it for > awhile. You should not get green or young, no matter how you perceive the > horse to be. A solid horse means years of work with a history of "taking > care" of its rider. > Good point Pat, and like you mentioned before, my gelding will trip some, but he has never hurt me and he is pretty trustworthy with most anybody who rides him. At age 64, I am somewhat reluctant to ride a green horse, but have had to do some of it right now as we have the little rescue fjord here and she is just being broke now. I have ridden her mostly around our property, but have been out on the road and a ways up the hills too, but she is young and skiddish, but seems to be better out on the trail than in the arena. She is scared in the arena and I do not know what has happened to her before, but obviously something has happened in the arena. I have a gal who has been breaking her and riding her for me, but I have been on her as well and I am not quite sure if that is very smart of me as she is green and young. But thank goodness she is only 13.1 hands so it wont be too far to fall,, but still, --- far enough. Rondi.
Re: Riding with age and a good horse
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a wonderful client right now. She is 70 and he is 73. They contacted me awhile ago about finding a couple of solid nice riding Fjords for their home use. She came from a horse world many years ago and as life leads us, had to give it up for family and career. Now that they are retired, with beautiful property to ride on and grandchildren - well, you can see it in her eyes she wants back - I've taken it very seriously, finding the right horses for them. Found one so far and he is in my barn waiting to go to their home - and in the process of looking for another. Riding the right horse is so important when you've been away from it for awhile. You should not get green or young, no matter how you perceive the horse to be. A solid horse means years of work with a history of "taking care" of its rider. Those of us who teach riding, and have had trouble finding that good lesson horse - know what I mean about a horse that takes care of his/her rider. They are rare. In all of my years of riding I can count on one hand the true-true horses that "take care of its riders". They are different and they are to be treasured. They are worth their weight in gold. Patti Walter just wrote me a neat story about her and Ole crossing a frozen creek the other day. Maybe she'll share that with you all. Its a great example of a horse "taking care" with wisdom. And ONCE AGAIN that disposition I speak of so frequently. Green Valley Farm has a great "take care of" mare - Hulda that saved all of our butts time and again driving. Susie Sadlon has a mare with the same history, she's ridden on these marathon trail rides some of you partake in and enjoy? She's told me many stories on the confidence her mare has given her. Mary Ofjord's Dragun is a great example of the "take care" horse. And I believe Sonne the big gelding I found for them is following suit. Treasure those horses - they are far and few. Pat Holland
Re: stallion's age of retirement
This message is from: "Arthur Rivoire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - > This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Carol, why is a stallion "retired" at a certain age. What determines the > time of retirement? Is this also true of the wild stallion or isn't that > because of the younger stallion beating him down? Jean Hi Jean, I'm not sure to what you're referring -- But, we'll retire Gjest when he can no longer sire foals. Regards, Carol
RE: age to breed
This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, First of all, we're glad you are all right. We bred our first Fjord at two and never will again. She was physically ready, but not mentally old enough. She had a great foal, but like a young teenage human girl, she was not really mentally prepared to be a mother. The mare was so rough with the foal that we almost lost her. We did not breed this year as our best gals were going to Libby. Next spring, the youngest we will breed will be 4 years old. I was airborne, 150 miles out of Anchorage when the Good Friday quake hit Alaska. We kept on going to Tokyo, had minimum rest and returned to McCord AFB and began flying supplies to Elmendorf AFB as Anchorage International was all torn up. On the second round trip, we broke down and had to lay-over in Anchorage. You should see my personal pictures and movies of the devastation in Anchorage. In July 1990, I was in Manila on the 9th floor of the hotel when the 7.7 quake hit. 10 times smaller than the Good Friday quake.wow...what a ride that was. We had aftershocks for the next two days of 6.0 to 6.8. We are told, here in WA that yours was a 6.7 quake. Yours released approx. 20 million tons of energy. 6.55 million tons Northridge, CA Quake, 1994 7.0 32 million tons Hyogo-Ken Nanbu, Japan Quake, 1995; Largest Thermonuclear Weapon 7.5 160 million tons Landers, CA Quake, 1992 8.01 billion tons San Francisco, CA Quake, 1906 8.55 billion tons Anchorage, AK Quake, 1964 Do you have any idea of how your Fjords reacted? Ours ran around in circles during our Western Washington 6.8 quake, February 28th, 2001 as the ground was moving laterally 3-4" each way in our area for about a minute. Fred All Mail is scanned in AND out by Norton Anti-virus. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington 98396 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158 Subject: age to breed This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a question for the list. What age do you first breed your young mares and fillies?
age to breed
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a question for the list. What age do you first breed your young mares and fillies? The reason I ask is that I read on one fjord owner's website that they bred their two year old fillie (or at least took her to the stallion) and I think that that is too young. I have heard that you should wait until the mare is at least three years old. Considering that Fjords don't reach their full growth until age 6 or later, could bearing a foal at age three cause harm? I do know that some breeders start breeding their young stallions at age two, to a limited number of experienced mares. Can this cause problems also? What is the best time table for breeding, both young mares and young stallions? and what problems might you have if you breed a two year old? Jean in balmy Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and 50 degrees today, losing our first snow cover, and making icy roads! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
gelding age
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's what we do with ours... Both testicles have dropped, preferably while still on Mom (easier to run to Mom with the big new owie). If they are not acting studdy and unruly, will wait a little bit for the cooler weather and fewer flies(it gets hot here in the San Joaquin Valley in the summer)...WON'T wait if the colt is mounting everything in site!! Disposition means a lot around herenot to mention the ease of turnouts when you can put the little new geldings out with other young ones, instead of preferential treatment due to remaining intact. That pretty much sums up everyone's' thoughts. BTW, the older they get the harder it is on them. We keep anything that is 2 or older to be gelded in at our clinic for at least a day or two after gelding them, to make sure there are no complications..and complications CAN occur, believe me, and might not even show up until the next day. Some of these big boys are packed to help prevent bleeding when they show excessive bleeding, etc, etc. Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
Re: Feeling Your Age?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I have to train myself better when I read this :-)) Seeing myself sitting on sweet little A'simi and saying: please buck! Your owner wants to get fit!
Feeling Your Age?
This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lately I hear folks here mention their aches and pains with the onset of the cold weather; feeling their age. Saw the neatest article in the current "Ruralite" publication. (co-op electrical periodical), entitled "Grandma Gets Kick Out of Rodeo." Along with, there's a photo of a white-haired gal making an upside down bareback dismount at the "Wild and Wooley Women's Rodeo" in AZ. The piece goes on to say that this 58-year old from Idaho is a living legend on the women's professional rodeo circuit; and that for her nothing beats a 24-second ride atop a bucking bronco! Jan Youren "is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the oldest female bareback bronc rider, and has been inducted into the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame." She has traveled up to 30 rodeos a year for 47 years and has broken nearly every bone in her body! She says she had promised her kids that she would quit when she turned 50, "but it got here way too soon," she says. = She says she no longer practises beforehand as she doesn't have enough rides left in her to waste them in the practise bin! She has 60 grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren. And you all thought you were putting out, huh? And some of us thinking we're getting on and maybe better cut back... This story sure puts things in perspective quick = what a gal ! She's going to be a competitor in the 4th Annual Sierra Vista AZ Stampede Rodeo (Jan 19,20); which event benefits the nonprofit Cochise Area Network of Therapeutic Equestrian Resources. www.sierrastampede.com Are you inspired gals? I am. I'd be out there riding hard right now if only it wasn't so darned cold (ahem). Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Age for riding, again
This message is from: Eileen Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Listers: Obviously, this is something many of us will have to agree to disagree on! My point was that as an 'enduser', I'll buy the 3 year old that hasn't been backed, rather than the one that has. Also, in my experience, being ridden or driven doesn't guarantee the horse isn't going to be a brat. In fact, I've run across a lot of horses who were 'broke to ride' who were a disaster on the ground. Just because I choose not to back a youngster, it doesn't mean that it won't be trained (and disciplined as necessary). There is *so much* schooling that can be done on the ground. Again, just my $0.02. Eileen Perry, in eastern WA where it's coool and windy, yeeehaaa
Re: Age for riding
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eileen, This starting age debate has been raging on and on, in various forums for a long, long time, and probably has before this form of electronic communication. I grew up in a 3 day/dressage background, and since then have added on CDE driving (10 years) and western riding, (last 7 years). OK, that said, I perfectly understand what you are saying re. backing a horse at age 4 or 5. But, you are perhaps forgetting to add that many of these youngsters ARE brought up from the lu$h, verdant pastures as late 2 year olds and ground driven and "backed" VERY lightly. Then out they go again to grow on, but with a taste in their mouth of what is to lie ahead, to mentally prepare them for that. This is the ideal. However I do not live in Shan-gri-la yet.) You KNOW (if you have read my posts, and I assume you have) that I am NOT advocating putting a horse into regular work as a 3 year old. Far from it; if anything can be said, it is that I am engaging their minds, for as you noted in your post, you are about to be a first time fjord owner in the near future. Do you really know how "creative" a fjord can be? Do you know how strong they are? They have definite ideas about the world and how they see themselves in it, and I feel it benefits both human and fjord to establish a good working relationship early on. (Remember, they are/were a working breed of horse...) Eileen, its "not that I can't wait to get on a youngster", it's that to develop a good enough horse, I feel I must get on them a couple of times.I don't WANT to wait to get on them when they are 4 and full of themselves. You must trust a good ,experienced handler to know how much is how much; there is allot of caution and discretion used, because I do acknowledge that the horse is young, unbalanced and still growing. Finally, be honest with me: if you saw a 5 year old fjord for sale, and the individual was everything you had been looking for in a fjord horse, would you pay me a minimum of $7,500. for this horse ?, and if it had been evaluated and was the offspring of Evaluation rated stock, would you be prepared to pay a minimum of $10,000.? Eileen, and others out there who are reading this, be very forthright and honest with me if you would and tell me if this is a price you could handle, because, I know all of the costs involved in bringing a horse along to that age. I would be very glad indeed to recieve the above prices, but I am not even coming close, but at least I am just breaking even, and the IRS hasn't questioned my horse portion of taxes as a frivolous hobby. Sorry to ramble here, but I really feel defensive about this subject. Gotta quit here, work beckons... Original Message Follows From: Eileen Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Age for riding Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 07:07:35 -0700 This message is from: Eileen Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All, As a "end-user" I felt compelled add my $0.02. I'm really sorry to hear that breeders feel that they can't afford to wait to get on a youngster. My background is in dressage and trail riding, and I hoping to become an accomplished whip (before I get too much older and grayer). I want a partner that will be working well into their twenties, so the idea of not backing a horse until it's four makes sense to me. FWIW, what I would want in a youngster is the exposure to new things and the fundamentals: being ponied on trails, hauling, all manor of ground handling, and grounddriving. Broke to me means that they're ok with spooky things, noises, etc. (E.g., I feel safe grounddriving them in the open and dragging a tire). I can put the proper aides on them when the time is appropriate. Another consideration is that I'm a large person - 5'9" and *not* skinny. So for me, there's no way I'm riding a youngster or having them pull me and a 200lb cart before they're 4 years old. Again, just my $0.02. Eileen Perry in West Richland WA Soon to become a Fjord person... _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Age for riding
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eileen: You signed your intelligent post "Soon to become a Fjord person". I think you're already a wise Fjord person. You just need a Fjord!! Alan Merrill
Re: Age for riding
This message is from: Eileen Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All, As a "end-user" I felt compelled add my $0.02. I'm really sorry to hear that breeders feel that they can't afford to wait to get on a youngster. My background is in dressage and trail riding, and I hoping to become an accomplished whip (before I get too much older and grayer). I want a partner that will be working well into their twenties, so the idea of not backing a horse until it's four makes sense to me. FWIW, what I would want in a youngster is the exposure to new things and the fundamentals: being ponied on trails, hauling, all manor of ground handling, and grounddriving. Broke to me means that they're ok with spooky things, noises, etc. (E.g., I feel safe grounddriving them in the open and dragging a tire). I can put the proper aides on them when the time is appropriate. Another consideration is that I'm a large person - 5'9" and *not* skinny. So for me, there's no way I'm riding a youngster or having them pull me and a 200lb cart before they're 4 years old. Again, just my $0.02. Eileen Perry in West Richland WA Soon to become a Fjord person...
Re: Age for riding?
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I need to respectfully disagree with you Carol. I know this is just not practical for me to hold off 'til past age 4 to start a horse, when this horse is for sale. If I passed on the true co$t of keeping a horse around until riding age, then started it and went to sell it, do you think I would EVER see any financial gain, or even break even? No way! (I think I price my horses VERY fairly, and the tire kickers are still complaining that they are too spendy. Go figure.Thank god I don't depend on selling horse to make a living ;~) There has to be allot of discretion used by the trainer in starting a youngster. Deep soft ground and/or hard ground, fast work and tight circles, and working off of a bit are not ok IMO. But, what is fast, and what is a tight circle? Too many folks I know start young horses in a roundpen. To me this can translate into a very bad thing, (see above), not to mention it tends to make the horse an un-natural rail-hugger, definitely an unwelcome habit to deal with. Take your time, go slow, but do climb aboard somewhere past the 2 1/2 year, if only to let them know its no big deal,and only for a few short (under 20 min. sessions.) After the third year, start in with trotting, work in the open, easy lopes UP hills if they offer, big circles (nothing under 15m. at a trot). Ride out on the trail with company and do trail "games". (See Marty Marten's book 'Problem Solving' for ideas.) Again, assuming you have done your groundwork, things really can come together well. People who know me, and know my horses will tell you that my horses are not burnt out, crippled wrecks by 5 years. Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV Original Message Follows From: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...my answer to your question is a big NO to any riding until at least 4 or later"Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Age for riding
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anjer Farms wrote: > This message is from: Anjer Farms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all, > > I would appreciate any feedback on a safe age to start riding a Fjord as far > as their physical developement is concerned. Is it OK to ride my 3 yo in an > arena with soft footing? > > Thanks, > Andrea Hi, This was just discussed and a very good explanation of it all was posted on Mon, 28th from Marlene. The subject is: Starting a two year old. Even though your horse looks all grown up, their bones are almost the last to fully mature. The jest of all is do not rush this riding thing. You will only have possible problems in the years to come from this. So my answer to your question is a big NO to any riding until at least 4 or later. And then only light riding by a light person. Do not be in such a hurry to do any riding. We all know it is so tempting, but stay off. There is so much ground work that can be done and even some driving if you are so inclined. That is my opinion. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Age for riding
This message is from: Anjer Farms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, I would appreciate any feedback on a safe age to start riding a Fjord as far as their physical developement is concerned. Is it OK to ride my 3 yo in an arena with soft footing? Thanks, Andrea
Re: Starting age
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Frank & Tammy, I totally agree with you. I do not start my Fjords until they are at least three. They need time to grow up just like kids do. Before they are 3, their attention span is fairly short. They may be big enough to ride etc, but give them a chance for a long life by letting grow up. The horses that are started very young seem to miss some important pieces in their trainning, or develope lameness problems. Hope this helps. Alison Bakken Bakken's Fjord Horse Farm
Re: Starting age
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- millcreekfjords <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could use some advice and supporting information > that anyone may have > regarding the recommended age for starting a Fjord > under saddle. We firmly > believe in waiting until they are 3 to start them > under saddle.. > What's your opionion, particularly with Fjords. We > have some friends > catching quite a bit of heat from the local 4H > Leaders about it being > important to start their 2 year olds and have the > kids on them by fair week > (July). the parents and Frank aren't > going to give in on this one but any supporting > information would really > help. Ah yes, the old "4H go-round". I know, I know, "4H is great for kids". Unfortunately, it isn't ALWAYS as great for the animals - especially the horses. Back in the 'old days' when most of the kids lived on a farm with parents who understood animals it wasn't so bad. Unfortunately, nowdays such is often not the case. Even many 4H leaders are not even especially well-versed in animal husbandry - it's getting harder and harder to find people with the time and inclination to do the work, so they pretty much take anyone willing to volunteer as a leader. Yes, there are many really good leaders out there, but there are also many neophites too. That said - I commend you and the kids' parents for refusing to give in to the 4H leaders' demands. The kids(and their leader) can benefit from doing a 'learning project' on Fjords. Find out about what a Fjord REALLY is, how does he grow in comparison to other breeds, etc., etc. Fjords grow/mature rather slowly compared to other 'competitive' breeds. They are still mentally very young at 2 years old - as well as physically young. Their attention span/retentive ability really begins to develop around 3 or so - some take longer. At 4 they are about ready to withstand some training beyond basics, and at around 5 they are really 'ready to go' and eager to learn. The change in attitude and physical ability between a 3 year old and a 5 year old is truly amazing! At 3 they're pretty willing, but their attention span is still rather short and their coordination isn't yet worked out. I have seen a big, stout 3 year old gelding do a complete summersault with a rider simply because he wasn't paying attention to his feet and got them tangled up with each other. At five this same horse was being trained as a hunter/jumper with no tripping or stumbling problems at all. The difference in him was phenominal. He needed to mature! This same horse was more mentally mature than his stablemate of the same age at 2, but was not as physically mature. The other horse caught up mentally around 3 and matured physically a lot faster - maybe because he was a bit smaller and more compact. SO, no two Fjords mature at exactly the same rate, but generally speaking they are slower to mature than other 'riding' breeds I've worked with. It's just the way they are - but the good part is that, once they do mature, they outlive/outlast the majority of their quicker to mature/quicker to wear out counterparts! Sounds like a good trade-off to me. Patience will pay off in the end. > > Not only do we feel it's not in the best interest of > the horses and their > physical development, it's also never ever good to > mix green horses and > kids. If only more people understood that! The only time this has a chance of working out well is if the kids are lucky enough to have parents who are very accomplished horse people who take the time to supervise the kids while they - and the horse - are learning. Another good situation is to give the young/green horse to a kid who has already proven him/her-self during lessons and shows with an older, trained horse. Kids with experience often have more patience with a young horse than an adult, simply because the kid has fewer demands on his/her time. The right kid - with enough experience and ability - can sometimes do wonders with a young horse, but this is the exception rather than the rule. Stick to your guns on this one. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Starting age
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, We believe firmly Fjords should not be started under saddle until a minimum of three, but preferably four years of age. Of course, as Mary says, each Fjord matures differently. The key is to watch your Fjord grow, pay attention to how attentive they are and for how long, and to discuss such training with your vet. We have three almost three year olds that we have decided to not begin riding training with as they are going through yet another growth spurt, plus they are still young in maturity. We believe if we give them another 6 months to a year of good ground training work, they will be more than ready to start under saddle with a good, trusting, and attentive attitude. Patience really pays with the Fjords! Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231.689.9902 http://hometown.aol.com/heithingi/BaileysNorwegianFjords.html
Starting age
This message is from: "millcreekfjords" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi list! I could use some advice and supporting information that anyone may have regarding the recommended age for starting a Fjord under saddle. We firmly believe in waiting until they are 3 to start them under saddle. Frank does start them under light harness at the age of 2 but no road work or heavy duty stuff. He has seen far too many really nice horses that were pushed so hard at 2 that by the time they are 6 they have already begun to battle lameness and worse. What's your opionion, particularly with Fjords. We have some friends that catching quite a bit of heat from the local 4H Leaders about it being important to start their 2 year olds and have the kids on them by fair week (July). Needless to say, the parents and Frank (who's training them) aren't going to give in on this one but any supporting information would really help. Not only do we feel it's not in the best interest of the horses and their physical development, it's also never ever good to mix green horses and kids. Thanks for your input supporting or opposing. Frank & Tammy Mill Creek Fjords
Re: Intro. /age
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there Wes , Well you took a while to dive in and we are glad to have you with us. Now I know you got home OK . We got more snow after you left so I think you came up on the right weekend. Hope the hips are working good and come spring you are able to hitch up the fore cart. Maybe you will be at Turlock. Say hi to the wife and keep in touch. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> greetings Les and Margaret welcome to the list and hope you enjoy our many faceted topics. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LHCarriage wrote: > This message is from: "LHCarriage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi my name is Les D. Hoagland and I have been lurking for about 2 1/2 year Hi Les, Welcome to the active part of the list. Don't go back into lurking. Join in on our wicked sense of humor. You sound like you have a lot to offer for those of us new to driving and such. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
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This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "LHCarriage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Hi my name is Les D. Hoagland and I have been lurking for about 2 1/2 years..." Well Les, it's about time! Welcome!! Karen McCarthy Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Intro. /age
This message is from: "LHCarriage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi my name is Les D. Hoagland and I have been lurking for about 2 1/2 year because I don't know much about computers. My family, Mother ( 89 ) Wife Margaret ( 64 ) and I ( 57 ) live about 65 miles south of the Oregon border. We have four horses (28 yr.'s)Appy , (17 yr.'s) Standardbred mare, (8 yr.'s) Appy gelding and of course our 5 yr. old Fjord bred mare.I am a semi retired professional horse drawn carriage owner/operator which I've done for over 28 year mostly in So. Cal. We still have a beautiful white Vis-a-Via , which we still use a lot for weddings. Also other carts buggies and horse related things. I have driven ever thing from single, pair, to a four in hand. My wife is a Special-Ed school teacher and hopes to retire in 3 yr.'s. Our main interests with our Fjords will be driving in the mountain and parades. Also enjoying raising cute little fur creatures. I have met a few of the wonderful listers and hope to meet many more. I have learned a lot off the list and will back into the lurk and stop being windy. Les & Margaret H. Callahan,Ca
Re: age
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hey listers, this fun list that i am compiling?.i want to keep it to the "users", people that actually write additions to the list, otherwise it is going to get way too long. nice that kids, husbands, wives and s.os', are involved with fjords (sometimes NOT) but i'd like to just keep it to the users, please. denise
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This message is from: "Frederick J. Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julie, what is your husbands name? Denise will add you folks to the list. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, WA USA http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of julie finn Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:13 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: age This message is from: "julie finn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My name is Julie Finn and I am 43, my husband is 46, my daughter is 13, my son is 12. We own one 4 year old fjord mare named Madison, two dogs and one cat. It is interesting to know the ages of everyone on the list. I have been reading this list for two years now. I feel I have learned so much. We live in quarterhorse country( Western South Dakota) It is nice to be able to read information on fjords. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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This message is from: "julie finn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My name is Julie Finn and I am 43, my husband is 46, my daughter is 13, my son is 12. We own one 4 year old fjord mare named Madison, two dogs and one cat. It is interesting to know the ages of everyone on the list. I have been reading this list for two years now. I feel I have learned so much. We live in quarterhorse country( Western South Dakota) It is nice to be able to read information on fjords. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Claudia Galup) My name is Claudia Galup, age 56. I have two fjords and a retired quarterhorse boarded at a friends wonderful farm 15 minutes from my house. Odin, my gelding is 8 , and Rosan, my mare, is 4. I bought my very first horse, Odin, when I was 50! Like may of the rest of you , fjords were the first horses that I didn't feel nervous around, and I absolutely fell in love. Thank goodness ,I have had wonderful, helpful experienced people around the whole time to help me and my horses learn. At present, Rosan and I are learning to drive. (Actually she knows lots more about it than I do. She'll do anything that I know how to ask. ) But I'm making progress and loving it, and my trainer says she'll be right there waiting for me as I learn! We live in Salisbury, NC, near Brian Jacobsen. claudia
Re: Fjordhesten Book & the age thing
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:31 PM 1/29/01 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Joyce Concklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe Mike May or someone may know if the Norwegian book FJORDHESTIN by A M BAKKEN has been translated yet? Several years ago there was talk about getting it published in English and I wondered if it was done? I have not heard that it was ever done. Maybe when the people from the list go to Norway in May they can find out for us. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: age data base-- revision # 3 additions to.....again
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear fred, where are the additions? i have my original #3 in a file. which ones did you change? please let me know, as it is easier, without having to go down the whole list. thanks, denise - Original Message - From: Frederick J. (Fred) Pack Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:45 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: age data base-- revision # 3 additions to.again This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Behalf Of Frederick J. (Fred) Pack Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:55 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: age data base-- revision # 3 additions to This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 katy andersen-14 caitlin-15 brigid wasson-29 lynn binkowski-29 anneli-34 susan ginise-34 sini seppala-34 steve white-35 amy white-? michele bigelow-35 michele noonan-35 reena-36 tammy hooper (id)-36 aimee day-36 lori albrough-36 russ ginise-37 jane myral(nd)-38 gunnar rogstad-38 candy sloma-38 jane in maine-38 lauren sellars-38 laura-38 PCarterAdler-38 amy evers-39 patty jo walter-39 catherine lassesen-40 mark mcginley-41 ed sloma-42 lisa-42 bonnie liermann-20+22? karen mccarthy-43 sheri kane-43 suzan-43 andrea salkow-44 dave bigelow-44 lisa pedersen-44 carole sweet-44 pauli seppala-45 ellen davidson-45 carm-46 linda hickman-46 pamela (northorse)-46 joni griffin-46 kim rogstad-46 sue giargiari-46 pat mccurty-47 denise delgado-47 micheal melbye-48 pam garofalo-49 sandra church-49 dawn (reddun)-49 teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 john ofjord-50 kathy spiegel-51 cheryl beillard-51 linda in minn-51 merek geiger-52 gail russel-53 marsha jo hannah-53 sue clark sorger-53 mike may-53 betsy bister-54 marion bijster-54 marty in md-54 cynthia madden-54 carol eberhardt 54 betsy in michigan-55 mike noonan-55 gail vinson in n.m.-55 dick giargiari-56 carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 julie will-56 steve mcilree-57 michael (reddun)-57 carol makosky-57 dan makosky-58 pat porter-58 peg knutsen-59 rondi tyler-60 jean ernst-60 carol tacey-60 carol rivoire-60 sue freivald-62 sue (ny)-63 bernie karns-63 tony dimuccio-63 fred pack-64 jack wasson-66 lois pack-67 mel goble-67 tillie evers-67 bud evers-71 jean gayle-75 Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Fjordhesten Book & the age thing
This message is from: Joyce Concklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maybe Mike May or someone may know if the Norwegian book FJORDHESTIN by A M BAKKEN has been translated yet? Several years ago there was talk about getting it published in English and I wondered if it was done? Also ,about that age thing.you can add myself and family to the age list. Myself,Joyce Concklin, 43 My Husband Eugene 49 Daugher Gina 15 One last thing,we have a yealing gelding for sale and will have a weanling for sale by July. Thanks. Fjording in Florida! please send some rain. Joyce __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Fw: age data base-- revision # 4
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 katy andersen-14 caitlin-15 bridgid wasson-29 lynn binkowski-29 anneli-34 susan ginise-34 sini seppala-34 michele bigelow-35 michele noonan-35 steve white-35 reena-36 tammy hooper (id)-36 aimee day-36 lori albrough-36 russ ginise-37 laura-38 jane myral(nd)-38 gunnar rogstad-38 candy sloma-38 jane in maine-38 lauren sellars-38 p. carter-adler-38 amy evers-39 patty jo walter-39 catherine lassesen-40 mark mcginley-42 lisa mcginley-42 ed sloma-42 grace debood-42 tim debood-42 karen mccarthy-43 sheri kane-43 suzan-43 bonnie liermann-43 andrea salkow-44 dave bigelow-44 lisa pedersen-44 carole sweet-44 tish pasqual-45 pauli seppala-45 ellen davidson-45 linda hickman-46 jan bonner-46 carm skjenna-46 pamela (northorse)-46 joni griffin-46 kim rogstad-46 sue giargiari-46 pat mccurty-47 denise delgado-47 micheal melbye-48 ingrid ivic-48 pam garofalo-49 sandra church-49 dawn (reddun)-49 teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 john ofjord-50 kathy spiegel-51 cheryl beillard-51 linda in minn-51 sue harrison-51 merek geiger-52 gail russel-53 marsha jo hannah-53 sue clark sorger-53 mike may-53 betsy bister-54 marion bijster-54 marty in md-54 cynthia madden-54 betsy in michigan-55 mike noonan-55 gail vinson in n.m.-55 dick giargiari-56 carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 randy harrison-56 julie will-56 steve mcilree-57 michael (reddun)-57 carol makosky-57 dan makosky-58 lynn mohr-58 pat porter-58 peg knutson-59 rondi tyler-60 jean ernst-60 carol tacey-60 carol rivoire-60 sue (ny)-63 bernie karns-63 tony dimuccio-63 fred pack-64 jack-66 mel goble-67 tillie evers-67 bud evers-71 jean gayle-75
RE: age data base-- revision # 3 additions to.....again
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Behalf Of Frederick J. (Fred) Pack Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:55 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: RE: age data base-- revision # 3 additions to This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 katy andersen-14 caitlin-15 brigid wasson-29 lynn binkowski-29 anneli-34 susan ginise-34 sini seppala-34 steve white-35 amy white-? michele bigelow-35 michele noonan-35 reena-36 tammy hooper (id)-36 aimee day-36 lori albrough-36 russ ginise-37 jane myral(nd)-38 gunnar rogstad-38 candy sloma-38 jane in maine-38 lauren sellars-38 laura-38 PCarterAdler-38 amy evers-39 patty jo walter-39 catherine lassesen-40 mark mcginley-41 ed sloma-42 lisa-42 bonnie liermann-20+22? karen mccarthy-43 sheri kane-43 suzan-43 andrea salkow-44 dave bigelow-44 lisa pedersen-44 carole sweet-44 pauli seppala-45 ellen davidson-45 carm-46 linda hickman-46 pamela (northorse)-46 joni griffin-46 kim rogstad-46 sue giargiari-46 pat mccurty-47 denise delgado-47 micheal melbye-48 pam garofalo-49 sandra church-49 dawn (reddun)-49 teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 john ofjord-50 kathy spiegel-51 cheryl beillard-51 linda in minn-51 merek geiger-52 gail russel-53 marsha jo hannah-53 sue clark sorger-53 mike may-53 betsy bister-54 marion bijster-54 marty in md-54 cynthia madden-54 carol eberhardt 54 betsy in michigan-55 mike noonan-55 gail vinson in n.m.-55 dick giargiari-56 carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 julie will-56 steve mcilree-57 michael (reddun)-57 carol makosky-57 dan makosky-58 pat porter-58 peg knutsen-59 rondi tyler-60 jean ernst-60 carol tacey-60 carol rivoire-60 sue freivald-62 sue (ny)-63 bernie karns-63 tony dimuccio-63 fred pack-64 jack wasson-66 lois pack-67 mel goble-67 tillie evers-67 bud evers-71 jean gayle-75
the age thing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All right, all right - I surrender. Put me down for age 46, please, and that's good 'til next October! Jan B., in Central Virginia
RE: age data base-- revision # 3 additions to
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Behalf Of Denise Delgado Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:17 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Fw: age data base-- revision # 3 This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 katy andersen-14 caitlin-15 brigid wasson-29 lynn binkowski-29 anneli-34 susan ginise-34 sini seppala-34 steve white-35 amy white-? michele bigelow-35 michele noonan-35 reena-36 tammy hooper (id)-36 aimee day-36 lori albrough-36 russ ginise-37 jane myral(nd)-38 gunnar rogstad-38 candy sloma-38 jane in maine-38 lauren sellars-38 laura-38 PCarterAdler-38 amy evers-39 patty jo walter-39 catherine lassesen-40 mark mcginley-41 ed sloma-42 lisa-42 karen mccarthy-43 sheri kane-43 suzan-43 andrea salkow-44 dave bigelow-44 lisa pedersen-44 carole sweet-44 pauli seppala-45 ellen davidson-45 carm-46 linda hickman-46 pamela (northorse)-46 joni griffin-46 kim rogstad-46 sue giargiari-46 pat mccurty-47 denise delgado-47 micheal melbye-48 pam garofalo-49 sandra church-49 dawn (reddun)-49 teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 john ofjord-50 kathy spiegel-51 cheryl beillard-51 linda in minn-51 merek geiger-52 gail russel-53 marsha jo hannah-53 sue clark sorger-53 mike may-53 betsy bister-54 marion bijster-54 marty in md-54 cynthia madden-54 carol eberhardt 54 betsy in michigan-55 mike noonan-55 gail vinson in n.m.-55 dick giargiari-56 carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 julie will-56 steve mcilree-57 michael (reddun)-57 carol makosky-57 dan makosky-58 pat porter-58 rondi tyler-60 jean ernst-60 carol tacey-60 carol rivoire-60 sue freivald-62 sue (ny)-63 bernie karns-63 tony dimuccio-63 fred pack-64 jack wasson-66 lois pack-67 mel goble-67 tillie evers-67 bud evers-71 jean gayle-75
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This message is from: Bonnie Liermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . . . ooohh Patti! Not nice! . . .I confess that it is true, I am actually 43. I only did it because you guys needed some 20's on the list. My heart was in the right place, really. I can't wait until you, Patti, turn the big 40! You are really going to get it! bonnie
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This message is from: "Dave Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bonnie Liermann is NOT 20!!! Well she was say, 22 years ago. Sorry Bonnie, people on the list know you!!! I also feed equi-shine and love it. It's easy the horses love it, can tell a difference with their coat and they don't go after the mineral/salt block that is outside. Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords
Re: Fw: age data base-- revision # 3
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/25/2001 8:14:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Add my age to the revision and my vote for developing a data base: Carol Eberhardt 54, mom of Prairie Duster in cold, crisp Michigan
Re: Fw: age data base-- revision # 3
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/25/01 5:14:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hi, Do you notice there are no 20s yet? Hey 20s, speak up. >> Not for much longer... I'm 29. And Jack will be 66 next week! Brigid Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA http://members.nbci.com/mrgnpetsit/fjord1";>Our Fjords
Re: Fw: age data base-- revision # 3
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:16 PM 1/24/01 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 Oh no! I am in the second half of the list!
Re: Fw: age data base-- revision # 3
This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Denise Delgado wrote: > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 > > katy andersen-14 > caitlin-15 > anneli-34 > susan ginise-34 > michele bigelow-35 > michele noonan-35 > reena-36 > tammy hooper (id)-36 > aimee day-36 > lori albrough-36 > russ ginise-37 > jane myral(nd)-38 > gunnar rogstad-38 > candy sloma-38 > jane in maine-38 > lauren sellars-38 > amy evers-39 > patty jo walter-39 > catherine lassesen-40 > mark mcginley-41 > ed sloma-42 > lisa-42 > karen mccarthy-43 > sheri kane-43 > suzan-43 > andrea salkow-44 > dave bigelow-44 > lisa pedersen-44 > carole sweet-44 > linda hickman-46 > pamela (northorse)-46 > joni griffin-46 > kim rogstad-46 > sue giargiari-46 > pat mccurty-47 > denise delgado-47 > micheal melbye-48 > pam garofalo-49 > sandra church-49 > dawn (reddun)-49 > teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 > john ofjord-50 > kathy spiegel-51 > cheryl beillard-51 > linda in minn-51 > merek geiger-52 > gail russel-53 > marsha jo hannah-53 > sue clark sorger-53 > mike may-53 > betsy bister-54 > marion bijster-54 > marty in md-54 > cynthia madden-54 > betsy in michigan-55 > mike noonan-55 > gail vinson in n.m.-55 > dick giargiari-56 > carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 > julie will-56 > steve mcilree-57 > michael (reddun)-57 > carol makosky-57 > dan makosky-58 > pat porter-58 > rondi tyler-60 > jean ernst-60 > carol tacey-60 > carol rivoire-60 > sue (ny)-63 > bernie karns-63 > tony dimuccio-63 > fred pack-64 > mel goble-67 > tillie evers-67 > bud evers-71 > jean gayle-75 Hi, Do you notice there are no 20s yet? Hey 20s, speak up. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Fw: age data base-- revision # 3
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: age data base-- revision # 3 katy andersen-14 caitlin-15 anneli-34 susan ginise-34 michele bigelow-35 michele noonan-35 reena-36 tammy hooper (id)-36 aimee day-36 lori albrough-36 russ ginise-37 jane myral(nd)-38 gunnar rogstad-38 candy sloma-38 jane in maine-38 lauren sellars-38 amy evers-39 patty jo walter-39 catherine lassesen-40 mark mcginley-41 ed sloma-42 lisa-42 karen mccarthy-43 sheri kane-43 suzan-43 andrea salkow-44 dave bigelow-44 lisa pedersen-44 carole sweet-44 linda hickman-46 pamela (northorse)-46 joni griffin-46 kim rogstad-46 sue giargiari-46 pat mccurty-47 denise delgado-47 micheal melbye-48 pam garofalo-49 sandra church-49 dawn (reddun)-49 teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 john ofjord-50 kathy spiegel-51 cheryl beillard-51 linda in minn-51 merek geiger-52 gail russel-53 marsha jo hannah-53 sue clark sorger-53 mike may-53 betsy bister-54 marion bijster-54 marty in md-54 cynthia madden-54 betsy in michigan-55 mike noonan-55 gail vinson in n.m.-55 dick giargiari-56 carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 julie will-56 steve mcilree-57 michael (reddun)-57 carol makosky-57 dan makosky-58 pat porter-58 rondi tyler-60 jean ernst-60 carol tacey-60 carol rivoire-60 sue (ny)-63 bernie karns-63 tony dimuccio-63 fred pack-64 mel goble-67 tillie evers-67 bud evers-71 jean gayle-75
Re: age data base-- revision # 1
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear carol, oh, no!! i'm not the officiali just have been doing it for fun. thx. denise > > >OK Are you the official data base list gather? Here is the rest of the > > data on me. My last name is Makosky
Re: age data base-- revision # 1
This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Denise Delgado wrote: > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:54 PM > Subject: eons and eons and eons, etc... > > > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > well, listers. this is what i have come up with so far..some > of > > the names do not have last names. i just took the names listed and > have > > reproduced them here. any of you out there who have neglected to add > > on, feel free to do so. here goes > > > katy andersen-14 > > caitlin-15 > > anneli-34 >susan ginise-34 > > reena-36 >terri hooper (id)-36 >aimee day-36 >lori albrough-36 >russ ginise-37 >janne mydral (nd)-38 >gunnar rogstad-38 >candy sloma-38 > > jane in maine-38 > > amy evers-39 >patty jo walter-39 >catherine lassesen-40 > > mark mcginley-41 >ed sloma-42 > > lisa-42 >karen mccarthy-43 > > suzan-43 >andrea salkow-44 >lisa pedersen-44 >carole sweet-44 > > linda hickman-46 >pamela (northorse)-46 >joni griffin-46 >kim rogstad-46 >sue giargiari-46 > > pat mccurty-47 > > denise delgado-47 > > micheal melbye-48 >pam garofalo-49 >teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 >kathy spiegel-51 >cheryl beillard-51 > > linda in minn-51 >merek geiger-52 > > gail russel-53 >sue clark sorger-53 > > mike may-53 > > betsy bister-54 >marion bijster-54 > > marty in md-54 > > cynthia madden-54 > > betsy in michigan-55 >mike noonan-55 > > gail vinson in n.m.-55 >dick giargiari-56 >carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 > > julie will-56 > > steve mcilree-57 > > carol m, golden pond-57 >pat porter-58 > > rondi tyler-60 > > jean ernst-60 > > carol tacey-60 > > carol rivoire-60 > > sue (ny)-63 > > bernie karns-63 > > tony dimuccio-63 > > fred pack-64 > > mel goble-67 > > tillie evers-67 > > bud evers-71 > > jean gayle-75 > > > > > > > >OK Are you the official data base list gather? Here is the rest of the > data on me. My last name is Makosky (Carol M. On Golden Pond) I am 57 > and retired with my husband, Dan, (58) three years ago. We lived in > Waukesha in southern WI for 23 yrs. We left that area just in time as > the subdivisions started to spring up like mushrooms there. We have two > children, a boy 25 and girl 23. We have one horse, Heidi, my Fjord, 2 > labs and 2 Jack Russells, and one cat. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
age data base-- revision # 1
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:54 PM Subject: eons and eons and eons, etc... > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > well, listers. this is what i have come up with so far..some of > the names do not have last names. i just took the names listed and have > reproduced them here. any of you out there who have neglected to add > on, feel free to do so. here goes > katy andersen-14 > caitlin-15 > anneli-34 susan ginise-34 > reena-36 terri hooper (id)-36 aimee day-36 lori albrough-36 russ ginise-37 janne mydral (nd)-38 gunnar rogstad-38 candy sloma-38 > jane in maine-38 > amy evers-39 patty jo walter-39 catherine lassesen-40 > mark mcginley-41 ed sloma-42 > lisa-42 karen mccarthy-43 > suzan-43 andrea salkow-44 lisa pedersen-44 carole sweet-44 > linda hickman-46 pamela (northorse)-46 joni griffin-46 kim rogstad-46 sue giargiari-46 > pat mccurty-47 > denise delgado-47 > micheal melbye-48 pam garofalo-49 teresa (kodiak fishco)-50 kathy spiegel-51 cheryl beillard-51 > linda in minn-51 merek geiger-52 > gail russel-53 sue clark sorger-53 > mike may-53 > betsy bister-54 marion bijster-54 > marty in md-54 > cynthia madden-54 > betsy in michigan-55 mike noonan-55 > gail vinson in n.m.-55 dick giargiari-56 carol and patrick (jhalst)-56 > julie will-56 > steve mcilree-57 > carol m, golden pond-57 pat porter-58 > rondi tyler-60 > jean ernst-60 > carol tacey-60 > carol rivoire-60 > sue (ny)-63 > bernie karns-63 > tony dimuccio-63 > fred pack-64 > mel goble-67 > tillie evers-67 > bud evers-71 > jean gayle-75 > > > >
Re: Age-"getting to know you"
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joni Griffin in Milwaukee, Wisconsin here. I am 46 yrs old, am a medical secretary to a rheumatologist, wife to Raymond for 26yrs and mother of three boys ages: 26, 25, & 15. I board my 10 yr old Fjord gelding-Green Briar Jock at "The Ranch" in Menomonee Falls where he recently began a career as a therapeutic riding horse and is doing a great job. I am a proud "Mom". Jock and I have also just begun taking ground driving lessons as The Ranch will be using him to give cart rides to the kids who are unable to mount a horse. Jock is one of those horses that "does it all"-he's so agreeable to whatever is asked of him-gotta love him! This April, if all goes well, we will participate in the breed demo again at the annual Midwest Horse Fair in Madison, WI. The demo this year will entail jumping a log that will be skidded in by another Fjord. We'll be taking some jumping lessons to prepare for that! I'm enjoying "getting to know all of you!
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This message is from: "Dave Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, My name is Patti Jo Walter, I am 39 (add me to the list of ages) and live in Two Rivers WI. Most exciting thing recently with my Fjords is the MWFHC's winter meeting coming up in Galena IL, Feb 24, 25. They have asked me to bring my white gelding, OH Silas to ride the introductory english evaluation test WITH ANNE APPLEBY. Sorry Anne, I'm sooo excited, I just hope I don't pee in my pants when I ride with you there. I am so nervous, excited, elated, nervous, delighted, nervous, anxious, nervous. OH Silas is out of Bragda and by Modellen, he is a wonderful gelding, my favorite horse on the farm. He is a coming 4 yr old and I just can't say enough good about him. He is a leaner framed Fjord, standing almost 15HH and has a wonderful mind on him. I am more nervous about me, and not the horse. So if you'll all just pray for good weather and for me to calm that day-will really have to let the spirit work in me that day!!! We have 4-5 hours to travel through Wisconsin in Feb. not always a joy in winter. Can't wait to see you all there!! Patti
