tank heaters

2009-01-17 Thread Melinda Schumacher
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher melinda.schumac...@gmail.com

Hello Fjord Friends:

I have been shocked by the exorbitant cost of powering tank heaters.  Two of
them have more than doubled my entire household monthly electric bill!  I am
wondering if I could save electricity if I unplugged them for the warmest
part of the day.  Do they draw power continuously or is there a thermostat
which cycles them on and off?

Melinda
in Marengo OH with Mirakel and Norrman

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Re: tank heaters

2009-01-17 Thread Jon Ofjord

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Melinda,

Most of the drain hole heaters are thermostatically controlled. I 
build insulated boxes for the tanks and cut a hole in the top for 
access by the horses. I believe the boxes pay for themselves in a 
season or two.


Jon, in Northern Minnesota where it stayed above zero all day!


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I have been shocked by the exorbitant cost of powering tank heaters.  elinda
in Marengo OH with Mirakel and Norrman

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Re: tank heaters

2009-01-17 Thread Steve McIlree

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Melinda Schumacher wrote:


I have been shocked by the exorbitant cost of powering tank heaters.  Two of
them have more than doubled my entire household monthly electric bill!  I am
wondering if I could save electricity if I unplugged them for the warmest
part of the day.  Do they draw power continuously or is there a thermostat
which cycles them on and off?


Cynthia installed a Bar-Bar-A waterer for the horses last year. It works 
quite well. The idea is that there is never standing water in the bowl. 
The water turns on and fills the bowl when the horses drink, then after 
a very short delay it drains to below the frost line. No electricity at 
all, and never any ice with which to deal. You can see them on the 
company's Web site: http://www.horsedrinker.com/ . These things are 
really slick, and though they aren't cheap they should save quite a bit 
on your electric bill.


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Re: tank heaters

2009-01-17 Thread Melinda Schumacher
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher melinda.schumac...@gmail.com

I think this is an excellent idea.  I expect they have to be installed when
the ground is not frozen.  And even though I don't know what the
installation cost would be, one of these would pay for itself (unit +
shipping) in just about 6 weeks of my moderately cold winter.

thanks!
Melinda



On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.comwrote:

 This message is from: Steve McIlree st...@carriagehorse.com

 Melinda Schumacher wrote:

  I have been shocked by the exorbitant cost of powering tank heaters.  Two
 of
 them have more than doubled my entire household monthly electric bill!  I
 am
 wondering if I could save electricity if I unplugged them for the warmest
 part of the day.  Do they draw power continuously or is there a thermostat
 which cycles them on and off?


 Cynthia installed a Bar-Bar-A waterer for the horses last year. It works
 quite well. The idea is that there is never standing water in the bowl. The
 water turns on and fills the bowl when the horses drink, then after a very
 short delay it drains to below the frost line. No electricity at all, and
 never any ice with which to deal. You can see them on the company's Web
 site: http://www.horsedrinker.com/ . These things are really slick, and
 though they aren't cheap they should save quite a bit on your electric bill.

  --
 Steve

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Re: tank heaters

2007-03-24 Thread Fhtrp
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For more winters than I care to count - I thawed water buckets and water  
tubs using a propane heater usually sold to heat garages. Took a litle while to 
 
get the distance right so I wouldn't melt the actual container but warmed the  
ice enough to slide out. Each year I created mountains of GIANT ice cubes.
   Now we have in tank heaters that work well most of the time.  My two older 
mares having been shocked several times won't drink from the tubs  with 
heaters. What they will drink out of I bought at Dover Saddlery and it's  muck 
bucket size with a built in heater in the false bottom and coiled electric  
cord 
which plugs in. Easy to keep clean and perfect size for the two of  them.   
Robyn in MD



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Re: tank heaters

2007-03-23 Thread Brian Blevins

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Please tell me about the propane heater.  It is difficult for me to get 
power to one of my stock tanks and need a different approach.  My father 
told me about kerosene heaters he used as a kid but that was when they used 
horses to do farm work - not kidding. I have looked for those heaters in 
antique stores but can not find them.   Propane sounds interesting - is it 
on a small tank or a large home tank?


Brian

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From: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: tank heaters
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:17:06 -0700

This message is from: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have never recovered from the guilt of mildly electrocuting my four 
donkeys on a daily basis some years ago.  I had installed an electric tank 
heater and hadn't realized there was a grounding problem until I discovered 
they weren't drinking - I put my hand in the water and yes, there was a 
definite tingle.


Now, living in New Mexico off the grid, (i.e. I am not connected to the 
national grid)  I have to produce my own power, relying on solar panels for 
electricity. My equine population has now increased to eight, including two 
Fjords, so water in winter is an issue.  So, I am conscious of the wattage 
needed to heat stock tanks and can't use anything with more than 20 watts. 
This winter I installed a propane water heater which has been a lifesaver 
and does't electrocute anyone.  And, thanks to all of you and that 
interesting discussion, I am planning to put fish in my tank - let's hope my 
super efficient propane heater won't fry them to a crisp.


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Re: tank heaters

2007-03-23 Thread Holly Tuck
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I too would be very interested in the propane heaters.
 I live in Canada and would like to use these if
feasible.
Thanks,
Holly

 Fjords, so water in winter is an issue.  

 This winter I installed a propane water heater which
 has been a lifesaver 
 and does't electrocute anyone.  

  Holly A. Tuck
  72 Falls Road
  R.R.#3
  Site 8, Comp 12
  Thunder Bay, Ontario
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Propane Stock Tank Heaters

2007-03-23 Thread Linda Patorni

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For those interested in propane stock tank heaters, I bought a Trojan 66B 
Stock Tank Heater at about $389.  It's not cheap, especially when you 
fiigure a dedicated propane tank and a large enough stock tank to make it 
worthwhile.  I bought a 90 gallon propane tank from Home Depot as my main 
1000 gallon propane tank was too far to run a connection.  The heater worked 
throughout winter (from November to March) on one tank of propane (I am at 
7000 feet with fairly cold New Mexico winters).  The link for the Trojan 
heater is : http://www.trojanlivestock.com/HeaterPages/TankHeaters.html


It might not work for everyone, but for me, (off grid, so I can't run high 
wattage electricity), it has been a lifesaver.  No more breaking ice each 
morning, and I can go away for a couple of days knowing that my guys have 
water.   The heater hooks on the side of my stock tank and is lit down at 
its base which is at the bottom of the stock tank.  Once lit, there's 
nothing to do- it stayed alight even in strong winds because the flame is 
right at the bottom.  You set it and it has a thermostat, so it fires up if 
the temperature gets too cold.  I found that my 6ft. round stock tank stayed 
completely ice-free throughout winter, even with our four foot snowfall in 
January.  I can't compare it, cost-wise, with electric heaters as I don' 
have electricity bills, but it saved my own energy and mental stress!


Happy to discuss further, if anyone has questions.

Linda

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RE: tank heaters fish poop

2007-03-22 Thread Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\)
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you feel a tingle when you stick your hand in the tank, you probably
have a open neutral leg feeding your stock tank, even a
corroded/resistive connection could cause your water to feel a little
tingly, because the 120 volts or part of it, is basically then going
thru your heater, and back to the point where the neutral is open or
resistive.  So your water would then be the same potential as that
voltage, especially in a insulated stock tank, such as a Rubbermaid.
When the horse sticks his mouth into the water, the horse is grounded,
and he touches a voltage with his mouth and gets a shock or tingle.  I
have heard of cows being killed because of this situation.  Your heater
could also have a nick or leak in the cord or connection point of the
heater, and cause stray voltage.  If you feel a tingle, I would unplug
power right away and fix it.  You might be able to stick a volt meter to
a metal fence post or something metal that is stuck in the ground real
good, and put the red lead into the tank, and measure the voltage, you
shouldn't read anything.  You would set your meter to the AC
(alternating current) setting.  If you have a voltage reading, then get
it checked out.

I don't know why the horse with shoe's wouldn't go over the electrical
cord, if it was buried any depth it shouldn't have  been a problem.  If
it was right on the surface or a inch or two under the surface, maybe
the current flowing thru the wire, when the tank heater thermostat was
closed so the heater was on, could have had enough magnetic flux lines
around the wires, to cause a slight current in your horses shoes if he
stood on the wire.  Not sure.  Basically that is how a transformer
works,  the magnetic flux lines in one wire causing current to flow in
another wire in very close proximity, but not actually touching it.

Usually the stock tank heaters have a Hot, Neutral and Ground wire, and
if for some reason there is a short circuit their would then be a
current in the ground wire.  If you have a ground fault interruptor
outlet (only about $7 at home depot) then it would trip and the horses
wouldn't get shocked.  If it keeps tripping, then don't bypass the
ground fault outlet, get your problem fixed.

Of course your stock heaters may be faulty, as we all know if we aren't
cleaver in how we conceal the heater cord or heater itself, then our
Fjords will figure out how to chew on the cord and pull the ting out and
bend it all up nice for us.  They aren't cheap.  I put a board on the
back half of the tank, and stick it half way thru the fence so the horse
only has access to the water side, and the cord comes out from under the
board on the opposite side of the fence from the horses.  I learned in
the early 90's about Fjords and how they seem to love chewing on
anything, and it doesn't seem to matter if it has electricity going thru
it. 

Mark Skeels


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lois Berenyi
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:14 AM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: tank heaters  fish poop

This message is from: Lois Berenyi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a question about the fish poop, once having had an aquarium I
hated to clean.  What happens to the fish waste products.  Do the fish
recycle that as well as the algae and dropped grain?

I have a comment to make about tank heaters.  When we lived in NJ we had
used them for years without incident except when one of the steers
pulled one out and left it on the ground.  But we had an interesting
incident one year with a mystery.  We had run the electric underground
to the heater in the tub.  The horses drank from the tub without any
sign of upset.  The tub was near the gate for easy filling or topping
off.  All the horses except one would go through the gate and the one
who pulled back and went slightly wild had gone through that gate
before.  Then it occurred to us that he was the only one shod and when
we turned off the heater he would go through the gate but when it was on
he would not.  Rather than re-do the electric we disconnected the heater
and removed it and had no further incidents.  After that we insulated
the tubs and covered them and did away with all the heaters since each
one would run up the bill about $50 a month x 4 tanks.

Lois Berenyi now horseless in sunny, shirtsleeve North Carolina

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Re: tank heaters

2007-03-22 Thread Linda Patorni

This message is from: Linda Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have never recovered from the guilt of mildly electrocuting my four 
donkeys on a daily basis some years ago.  I had installed an electric tank 
heater and hadn't realized there was a grounding problem until I discovered 
they weren't drinking - I put my hand in the water and yes, there was a 
definite tingle.


Now, living in New Mexico off the grid, (i.e. I am not connected to the 
national grid)  I have to produce my own power, relying on solar panels for 
electricity. My equine population has now increased to eight, including two 
Fjords, so water in winter is an issue.  So, I am conscious of the wattage 
needed to heat stock tanks and can't use anything with more than 20 watts. 
This winter I installed a propane water heater which has been a lifesaver 
and does't electrocute anyone.  And, thanks to all of you and that 
interesting discussion, I am planning to put fish in my tank - let's hope my 
super efficient propane heater won't fry them to a crisp.


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RE: tank heaters

2007-03-22 Thread Gail Russell
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My fish have survived literally two inch deep water in mid summer when we
developed a leak.  They are pretty hardy.

GailAnd, thanks to all of you and that 
interesting discussion, I am planning to put fish in my tank - let's hope my

super efficient propane heater won't fry them to a crisp.

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tank heaters fish poop

2007-03-21 Thread Lois Berenyi
This message is from: Lois Berenyi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a question about the fish poop, once having had an aquarium I hated to
clean.  What happens to the fish waste products.  Do the fish recycle that as
well as the algae and dropped grain?

I have a comment to make about tank heaters.  When we lived in NJ we had used
them for years without incident except when one of the steers pulled one out
and left it on the ground.  But we had an interesting incident one year with a
mystery.  We had run the electric underground to the heater in the tub.  The
horses drank from the tub without any sign of upset.  The tub was near the
gate for easy filling or topping off.  All the horses except one would go
through the gate and the one who pulled back and went slightly wild had gone
through that gate before.  Then it occurred to us that he was the only one
shod and when we turned off the heater he would go through the gate but when
it was on he would not.  Rather than re-do the electric we disconnected the
heater and removed it and had no further incidents.  After that we insulated
the tubs and covered them and did away with all the heaters since each one
would run up the bill about $50 a month x 4 tanks.

Lois Berenyi now horseless in sunny, shirtsleeve North Carolina

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Re: tank heaters fish poop

2007-03-21 Thread Ed Sullivan
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Hi Lois, that's a *shocking* tale!  I think I've got a similar mystery, maybe
there's an electrical guru among the group who can tell us...  Each year at
the Haddam Neck Fair horse show, a couple of usually staid, unflappable horses
will take off and go bonkers during the trail class.  The course is set up
under some big power lines, the kind you can actually hear if it's quiet,
which of course the fair is not.  The weather is often hazy-hot-and-humid,
Labor Day weekend.  Perhaps there's a little stray voltage hitting the ground
somehow?  So far our Fjord mares (both shod) have always behaved just fine in
trail, and enjoy visiting with fairgoers -- every year we meet some who have
never seen a Fjordhorse before!

Ann in CT
dry lot ?? HAH !

- Original Message -
From: Lois Berenyi
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:28 PM
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Subject: tank heaters  fish poop

This message is from: Lois Berenyi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

..All the horses except one would go
through the gate and the one who pulled back and went slightly wild had gone
through that gate before.  ...

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Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-20 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Alison Bakken wrote:


This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Don,

I have used the blue buckets.  If you are using the buckets outside, you need 
to watch the plug
in, if you are using extension cords.  I have had snow get in the
connection and cause problems.

Alison Bakken
In sunny warm Alberta.


 


Hi Alison,
Take electricians tape and wrap the connection several times.  Don't be 
stingy with it and cover both ends well.  Stretch the tape a bit when 
wrapping and then squeeze it all over.  This should make the connection 
fairly water proof, but I would not let it lay on the ground.  
Carol M.




Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-20 Thread Alison Bakken
This message is from: Alison Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Don,

I have used the blue buckets.  They work very well.  I use them for
goats and a dog.  The horses water out of a stock tank, with stock tank
heaters.  If I only had a couple of horse I would use the buckets for
them. If you are using the buckets outside, you need to watch the plug
in, if you are using extension cords.  I have had snow get in the
connection and cause problems.

Alison Bakken
In sunny warm Alberta.



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-17 Thread bolinsj
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There is a recycle center near us that makes plastic wood out of 
recycled bottles and stuff.  If you haul yourself, it is not much more 
expensive than real wood and works nice in the barns.  All our stalls 
are built from it.  It is sort of like the decking, but less expensive 
and maybe has some 'holes' (bubbles?) in the interior that make the ends 
look less pleasing than the good decking, but it works great.  We used a 
'barn red' color so it also hides some of the dirt.  There are some 
tricks to working with it, but I guess it is the same with the plastic 
decking.  More reinforcing than wood.  But way less maintenance.

Martie in MD

GAIL RUSSELL wrote:

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Like Trex decking?

 I'm thinking about that plastic wood this year?

I'll have to try the rubber duckies too.

Gail Russell
Forestville CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-17 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Jean Gayle wrote:


This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re the five gallon bucket with heater in the bottom..  I have not used my
two for fear the horses would get burned by the heater at the bottom or
shocked.??
 


-- Jean,

The heater is not exposed in my 5 gal. bucket.  It seems there are two buckets 
together and the heater is between the two bottoms.  I do make sure it is never 
totally empty.  So you do not see the heater at all and the cord has wire on 
it, but I still make sure it is not within chewing range.

Carol M.



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-17 Thread Jean Gayle
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re the five gallon bucket with heater in the bottom..  I have not used my
two for fear the horses would get burned by the heater at the bottom or
shocked.   Jean





Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
Author:The Colonel's Daughter
$20 PO Box 104
Montesano, WA 98563



tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread Janet McNally
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after reading all those funny stories about fjords and floating tank heaters, I
have to recommend the one we use, its a heater that screws in to the bottom of a
rubbermaid tank.  like someone else said, park the tank with the chord under the
fence out of reach.  Only problem with these 1500 watt heaters... they are very
hard on the electric bill, up to $60/month in a Minnesota January.

janet



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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Like Trex decking?

 I'm thinking about that plastic wood this year?
I'll have to try the rubber duckies too.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread bolinsj

This message is from: bolinsj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We tried both a wooden and a chickenwire cage for over the top of the 
tank.  Wee Willy took off with the wire one day and the Fjords ate a 
hole in the wood.  I was afraid the splinters would hurt them so I took 
off the wooden top.  I'm thinking about that plastic wood this year?

I'll have to try the rubber duckies too.  And stand by with a camera!

Martie in MD

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In a message dated 11/16/2002 11:48:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



OH yeah, we have that problem too. Seems the Fjords just can't resist playing 
with the cool floaty thing in the tank.  So Dad has constructed a Fjord 
Proof wooden cover which covers about 1/2 the tank, with a chicken wire 
screen that goes all the way down to the bottom of the tank so that the 
heater is safely contained where the horses cannot get to it. (we have the 
regular oblong shaped metal stock tanks)  

With one very persistent filly we used to have, we had to resort to also 
putting a hot wire around the edge of the wood cover so she wouldn't grab 
that with her teeth and pull it off.


If you ever want to have some fun in the summer, try putting some rubber 
ducks in the stock tank! But, be prepared to keep retrieving them from the 
ground and putting them back in the water..


Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread Bossmare
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There is a heater available for the Rubbermaid tubs that screws in where the
plug goes (so horses can't reach it or the wire).  I believe it also shuts
off if water level gets too low.

One caution from an experience we had...we noticed the horses avoiding the
tub and suspect they were getting a shock when they touched the tub. At that
time we had the floating type.  We also had problems with cattle pulling it
out where it seared the ground and did not shut off when out of water.  We
discontinued using tub heaters at that timealso our electric bill per
month in the winter was approx. $50 for each heater and we had 3 tubs.

Just our experience.

Lois Berenyi in NJ

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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: stock tank heaters


 This message is from: Don Brackett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 We've finally decided that our desire to haul hot water out to the
 animals all winter to de-ice the water tanks is no fun!  So do any of
 you have any advice on the different water tank heaters.  There are so
 many out there.  We only have the two horses so our current tank is
 small, only about 20 gallons.  Do any of you use the blue buckets with
 heaters built in.  There is one at Dover for $90 some - 16 gallons.  Do
 they hold up?

 The sheep have a slightly bigger tank but they drag alot of hay and
 manure into theirs  so it needs freqent cleaning out.

 What are the various safety issues with these heaters.  What types of
 things do you do to protect the wires?
 Any and all advice is happily accepted.

 Jane
 Maine where winter has arrived and the Fjords are very fuzzy indeed.



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread Sarah Nagel
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 Don Brackett wrote:

 What are the various safety issues with these heaters.  What types of
 things do you do to protect the wires?
 Any and all advice is happily accepted.

Some safety issues we have found with various stock tank heaters and open
topped tanks mostly involved younger playful Fjords that just won't leave
them alone, whether or not they are the floating type or the sink to the
bottom with a wire cage around them type.   I've found 2 of our heaters
OUTSIDE the tank and still plugged in, just laying there.

A mare I have, who is now 6 managed to remove a caged heater, run off with
it, smash it to bits and leave it out in the middle of a 12 acre field where
she stood and snorted at the bad thing.   That's how I found it.   I
wondered what in the world was upsetting her so.   My guess is from the
looks of that heater, it had managed to jump out of the tank, and grab her
by the foot and wrap itself around her ankle, forcing her to flee for her
life.

One time, I came outside to find a 3 year old gelding swinging the heater in
the cage up and down, around and around by the cord.  He was having a ball
and decided to trot off with the heater in his mouth when I approached him
to retrieve it, hopefully before the big goof managed to electrocute
himself.  He ripped it out of it's socket thankfully before he proceeded to
bite through the wire and destroy the heater.  I'm not sure how many heaters
I had purchased at this point.  But the heater is the least expensive part
of this problem!I was worried about losing the horse!

We spent a few years making 'tops' of various things over our stock tanks,
using wire, fencing, wood ... always trying to fashion it so the horses
could get into drink, but not manage to 'grab' the heater that they find so
fascinating.   Mainly the problem with this was one particular horse, would
then put his front leg through the opening and start fishing around for his
heater.  I wasn't sure if he managed to step on it just right, if it was
going to electrocute him or not.

The best solution I finally ended up with was changing over to the
Rubbermaid tanks, and using the screw in type of heater that goes in through
the bottom side.  I then put that side of the tank up against the fence and
take the cord directly outside of the fence and run it through conduit over
to the exterior, weather proof, gfci outlet.  All this is located on the
OUTSIDE of the fence, where they cannot get to it.   In one pasture I have
now, it would be possible for a horse to crane his/her neck over the fence
and possibly get to the outlet, so I purchased a metal covered outlet with a
cover that locks from the outside.   If he ever figures out the combination
lock, I might be in trouble again!

Sarah Nagel
Stevensville, MT



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread Mariposa Farm
This message is from: Mariposa Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Don Brackett wrote:

What are the various safety issues with these heaters.  What types of
things do you do to protect the wires?
Any and all advice is happily accepted.


Hi Jane-

We have 23 horses in 12 different paddocks and we use 8 different stock
tanks to service them all.  We're also located in northern Wisconsin where
it can get chilly.  I built insulated boxes for the 75 and 100 gallon
Rubbermaid tanks and equipped them with lids that have a cut out for the
horses head.  This keeps heat and the heaters in the tanks.  I use the
sinking basket type heaters (around $30.00 each and they burn 1500 watts
maximum). Only use ground fault protected outlets, which is code in
Wisconsin anyway and add up your watts and divide by the voltage (115) to
get how many amp circuit you need.  Two heaters could possibly burn 26 amps
but in reality they burn less.  Once I put the tanks in insulated boxes my
electric bill dropped by 25%.

In the stalls we use the blue 5 gallon electric buckets that go for around
$35.00 each.

Be careful using the floating type without a basket.  A friend I know had
their tank catch on fire when the tank was empty.

Mark McGinley
Mariposa Farm
Washburn WI
http://www.mariposafarm.com



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread FjordAmy
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In a message dated 11/16/2002 11:48:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Only 
 problem we have with it is that FJORDS like to play with the heater and 
 pull it out of the tank. 

OH yeah, we have that problem too. Seems the Fjords just can't resist playing 
with the cool floaty thing in the tank.  So Dad has constructed a Fjord 
Proof wooden cover which covers about 1/2 the tank, with a chicken wire 
screen that goes all the way down to the bottom of the tank so that the 
heater is safely contained where the horses cannot get to it. (we have the 
regular oblong shaped metal stock tanks)  

With one very persistent filly we used to have, we had to resort to also 
putting a hot wire around the edge of the wood cover so she wouldn't grab 
that with her teeth and pull it off.

If you ever want to have some fun in the summer, try putting some rubber 
ducks in the stock tank! But, be prepared to keep retrieving them from the 
ground and putting them back in the water..

Amy


Amy Evers
Dun Lookin' Fjords
Redmond, OR
Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread SSlotness
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We have a 50 gal rubbermaid tank with a heater that goes into the drain plug.
It is up against the fence so they can't monkey with the cord. We plug it in
to the barn outlet.

Suzan

One discovers a friend by chance, and cannot but feel regret that 20 or 30
years of life may have been spent without the least knowledge of him.
— Charles Dudley Warner



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread bolinsj

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We have those floating tank heaters in our 'bathtub' trough.  Only 
problem we have with it is that FJORDS like to play with the heater and 
pull it out of the tank.  The electric cord is 'covered' so they can't 
bite through or anything, but I find it really frustrating to go out and 
discover the float sitting on the ground heating nothing!  while the tub 
is now frozen.  Must be some way to make it stay in the trough.


Martie in MD



Re: stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Don Brackett wrote:


This message is from: Don Brackett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We've finally decided that our desire to haul hot water out to the 
animals all winter to de-ice the water tanks is no fun!  So do any of 
you have any advice on the different water tank heaters.  There are so 
many out there.  We only have the two horses so our current tank is 
small, only about 20 gallons.  Do any of you use the blue buckets with 
heaters built in. 


Hi,
I only have one horse and use the 5 gal. bucket with heater in the 
bottom.  It has held up very well for the last 4 years.  Go to the 
archives for more talk about this.  It must be that time of the year.  
Carol M.

N. WI



stock tank heaters

2002-11-16 Thread Don Brackett

This message is from: Don Brackett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We've finally decided that our desire to haul hot water out to the 
animals all winter to de-ice the water tanks is no fun!  So do any of 
you have any advice on the different water tank heaters.  There are so 
many out there.  We only have the two horses so our current tank is 
small, only about 20 gallons.  Do any of you use the blue buckets with 
heaters built in.  There is one at Dover for $90 some - 16 gallons.  Do 
they hold up?


The sheep have a slightly bigger tank but they drag alot of hay and 
manure into theirs  so it needs freqent cleaning out.  

What are the various safety issues with these heaters.  What types of 
things do you do to protect the wires?

Any and all advice is happily accepted.

Jane
Maine where winter has arrived and the Fjords are very fuzzy indeed.