Re: Truck and trailer
This message is from: S K Just a tad too far from me, seeing I'm in MaineI have a trailer but like everything else, it's getting old...just had some work done on it will last for awhile yetthanks for the info From: Robin Churchill To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: Robin Churchill Yes in Bonita Springs which is about 40 minutes south of me. I just thought if anyone was interested, I could send them the ad and even possibly go look at it for them. My friend had some lady from Ohio buy her horse trailer and I bought one in Indiana once--probably wouldn't do it again but who knows? If it is the right trailer at the right price, might be worth it. Robin From: S K To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: S K This horse trailer is in Fla? From: Robin Churchill To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Truck and trailer This message is from: Robin Churchill If anyone is in the market for a truck and/or trailer, there was a nice-looking four-star two horse bumper pull and an F-150 with 42K miles on it for sale on craigslist here. The woman said she was getting out of horses so she was selling them. She was asking 9k for the trailer and 15.5k for the truck but probably is negotiable. I have a four-star and they are good trailers. Just thought I would mention it. If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately and I can send you the listing Robin in Florida where it is certainly stinkin hot, muggy and miserable--did I mention buggy? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Truck and trailer
This message is from: Robin Churchill Yes in Bonita Springs which is about 40 minutes south of me. I just thought if anyone was interested, I could send them the ad and even possibly go look at it for them. My friend had some lady from Ohio buy her horse trailer and I bought one in Indiana once--probably wouldn't do it again but who knows? If it is the right trailer at the right price, might be worth it. Robin From: S K To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: S K This horse trailer is in Fla? From: Robin Churchill To: "fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com" Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Truck and trailer This message is from: Robin Churchill If anyone is in the market for a truck and/or trailer, there was a nice-looking four-star two horse bumper pull and an F-150 with 42K miles on it for sale on craigslist here. The woman said she was getting out of horses so she was selling them. She was asking 9k for the trailer and 15.5k for the truck but probably is negotiable. I have a four-star and they are good trailers. Just thought I would mention it. If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately and I can send you the listing Robin in Florida where it is certainly stinkin hot, muggy and miserable--did I mention buggy? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: "shawna smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for the trailer hitch? These are rated very well, but I was wondering if any of you had experience with them. Thanks again, Jayne Jayne, I haul a 16ft. stock trailer with a 1-ton Ford and can haul 1-4 horses. It is equipped with a weight distribution system (load leveler). I always use it. This system is excellent in preventing sway and increasing stability of the load. I would call it mandatory for your Dakota, but it will not make towing with a light-weight pick-up fool-proof. However it will be very beneficial to you. I have in the past, when hauling 1 horse short distance, just hooked up straight to the bumper and could feel a big difference. Good Luck!! Shawna
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This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Brigid Wasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you did get the Tundra after all! Mine is still going strong, after a > bizarre transmission problem. [...] Of course the warranty had expired 5 > minutes earlier... Funny how that works. Like all the recent postings about mares foaling when one turns one's back, I guess. OTOH, the reason we have stuck with Toyotas is that repairs are rarely needed. > > tow with "too small" vehicles > > [...] Did this with my Toyota Tacoma, although it probably wasn't such > a hot idea. I'd say I "got away with it" but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm > sure it put a heck of a stress on the engine. Yeah---both our little Toyota pickup and the 4-Runner "used up" their clutches somewhat prematurely. My husband blamed it on the way I would "slip" the clutch, to get the rig moving on a steep hill (trying not to knock the equines off of their feet). Then, I'd remind him of the time he weighed out of the quarry with 3500 lb of gravel in a certain little truck rated to carry 1000 lb I joke that it's a good thing Toyotas don't read English very well---they don't know they aren't supposed to be able to do that! So, they just grunt, dig in their toes, and get on with it---rather like Fjords. ;-) Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/19/2003 10:51:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Our most recent upgrade has been to a 2002 Toyota Tundra (still 4WD, > V8, towing capacity 7000 lb). Man, what a difference! Now, my only > problem towing on the freeway is keeping the rig under 70 mph! So you did get the Tundra after all! Mine is still going strong, after a bizarre transmission problem. Some small part broke, lodging itself in other parts, causing a $2400 repair! The transmission guy swore this was the best transmission on the market and this is the first time he's ever seen a problem. Great, so it's just MY Tundra. Of course the warranty had expired 5 minutes earlier... > > Bottom line---one can tow with "too small" vehicles, IF they are > Toyotas. ;-) I hear that. Did this with my Toyota Tacoma, although it probably wasn't such a hot idea. I'd say I "got away with it" but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm sure it put a heck of a stress on the engine. Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our Fjords http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html";>Fjordings West
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jayne, I have an older two horse, oversized 2300 lb trailer towed by my 3/4 ton 1987 ford truck. I think the "sway bars" add stability altho the trailer tows quite smoothly on it's own. Just a little less movement with the bars. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jayne Malueg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have > looked at some WW trailers that weigh around 2,000 > lbs. This is more than our horses (smaller Fjords)and > in a good range for the truck to tow. I think you earlier mentioned that you were getting young Fjords? Be sure to allow for "growth"! They do tend to "fill out" > Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for > the trailer hitch? I've had some experience towing with "small" vehicles. We started out with a 1982 4-cylinder Toyota pickup (4WD, 2000-lb towing capacity), a small 2-horse trailer that claimed to have curb weight of 1500 lb, and a 400-lb donkey. This was all perfectly legal, and actually worked quite well, even in the steep mountains where we lived. The donkey eventually acquired a couple of Fjord friends (1100 and 900 lb), and the little pickup was starting to struggle when it was asked to pull both horses together. (We still got where we were going, just weren't setting any land speed records.) So, we "upgraded"---to a 1990 Toyota 4-Runner (again 4WD, V6, rated to tow 3500 lb). That put us back to "legal" again, and worked well. But then one of the Fjords decided he didn't like being shoe-horned into the small trailer, so we ended up getting a 2-horse slant-stock trailer (which I heartily recommend, for its versatility; I use mine slant-rear). Trouble is, that weighed 2600 lb, a great deal of which was tongue weight, and in crosswinds, it sometimes felt like the trailer was trying to "wag" the 4-Runner. That was when we added a weight-distributing hitch, which solved the "squirrely" feel of the trailer. As the 4-Runner aged, it became less able to haul that trailer around. Our most recent upgrade has been to a 2002 Toyota Tundra (still 4WD, V8, towing capacity 7000 lb). Man, what a difference! Now, my only problem towing on the freeway is keeping the rig under 70 mph! Bottom line---one can tow with "too small" vehicles, IF they are Toyotas. ;-) Given what my neighbor has said lately about his Dodge trucks, I don't think I'd want to try towing "on the line" with a small Dodge. And, a weight-distributing hitch is good insurance, no matter what you're towing with. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: Jayne Malueg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To summarize the concerns I would say that trailer weight, hills and stopping are the biggies. We have looked at some WW trailers that weigh around 2,000 lbs. This is more than our horses (smaller Fjords)and in a good range for the truck to tow. Hills are nearly a foreign word in this area. There is barely inclines much less real hills. We will likely haul to Northern WI, but only the last bit of that route has some rolling hills - still not very big. The truck and trailers we have looked at have brakes so that should be fine. I think we will need to be very alert and plan ahead in driving as suggested. We don't intend to travel in any high traffic, but one always needs to think of the unexpected. Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for the trailer hitch? These are rated very well, but I was wondering if any of you had experience with them. Thanks again, Jayne Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: truck and trailer - again!
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:34 PM 3/18/99 -0600, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >hi everyone - this is Nancy - think we have finally decided on getting a >3/4 ton chevy pickup truck - does any one have any opinions or short bed >versus long bed with a gooseneck trailer? Thanks - can't wait till we have >everything together and are mobile! The thing to watch out for with the short/long bed is the type of trailer your going to have. Some trailers require a long bed for the turning clearance to the cab. I am not sure if any of the common horse trailers are this way or not but I guess I would be looking at them first and talking to the trailer dealers before buying the truck. I know this is true for some 5th wheel camp type trailers. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
truck and trailer - again!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi everyone - this is Nancy - think we have finally decided on getting a 3/4 ton chevy pickup truck - does any one have any opinions or short bed versus long bed with a gooseneck trailer? Thanks - can't wait till we have everything together and are mobile!
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This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good for you Nancy! Forget that F-150! You're right about it being mind boggling with all the truck and trailer choices out there. Like I said before, take your time and look around at what others are doing and when you go to look at trailers take your cart along if at all possible. Softouch makes a very nice aluminum trailer, that's what I have. Their workmanship is excellent. Good luck shopping! Laurie Pittman http://www.angelfire.com/wa/torshome
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This message is from: Paula Steinmetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I also agree that a 150 is not enough truck! I just sold mine for some of the reasons the others have mentioned. Not enough power being the main reason - even with a 351 V8 and 3.55 rear end gearing - it was not enough truck for hauling over even the "minor" hills we have in this part of otherwise flat country. I would recommend at least a 250, and gas powered. Paula in somewhat warmer Wisconsin
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This message is from: "Frederick J. (Fred) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Nancy and Ernie, The other comments on the board, in reply to your question, are "right on". I would especially emphasize the two vehicle. We use a Ford 250 with a BIG 460 cubic inch GAS engine. Fred Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington USA you wrote: Hi - this is Nancy and Ernie from NH - we are in the market for getting our first truck and trailer - we want a trailer that would house both Sonnie and a meadowbrook carriage. We are thinking of getting a Ford F150 and a gooseneck 2 horse stock trailer. Does anyone have any suggestions about wether this combination is adequate. We would appreciate any info. Thanks everyone! Nancy
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This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda, I agree with Joe and Denise that you should get a bigger trailer. I often haul 2 horses and my cart and I had looked at a 3 horse trailer. I soon realized that it just wasn't enough. I can just about promise that you wouldn't be satisfied for long.Take your cart along if you can when looking at trailers so you can see how it fits. Also, it makes a big difference if you can remove the shafts for hauling. Get a ramp if you can, it makes loading so much easier! Good luck! Laurie Pittman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: Truck and trailer >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >This message is from Linda in Mn. > >We, too, are in the market for a trailer and plan to pull with an F-250. Am >thinking of getting a three-horse trailer for two horses and a cart. I am not >sure I am allowing enough room for the cart and two horses. Have looked at >both the stock-type and the more enclosed type. What is a "ramp tail"?? >Appreciate your comments about your trailer experiences.
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This message is from: "Joe & Denise Galbraith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perhaps "ramp tail" is an inappropriate term. By that I meant that the back of the trailer is enclosed by a full width/full height "swing" door, behind which is a ramp (about 4' high) that closes up from the bottom of the trailer. When we open the trailer, first the ramp is released (with an Eberhart latch, which is the kind you see on the semi-trailers ... much more secure than just a pin or ordinary latch) and comes down to create a ramp from the road surface up into the trailer, then the big back door is released and swings open to allow entry into the trailer. Because of the ramp, its easy to roll wagons, carriages, forecarts, whatever up into the trailer. Our smaller trailer does not have a ramp, and I really don't think it makes a difference to the horses. They seem just as willing to step into a trailer as walk up a ramp. The ramp sure does help, though, in loading a wagon. Again, I think the bigger the trailer you can afford and feel comfortable handling, the more likely it will be adequate for you as your needs expand. We have been lucky to find GOOD used aluminum trailers. A word of caution about aluminum trailers though (from a metallurgical engineer); acid and aluminum don't mix. Most acids can eventually distroy the alumina layer that gives aluminum its corrosion resistance. One should frequently wash out the floors of aluminum trailers after use so that the urine and manure don't create a corrosion problem (if you see white power on aluminum, this is not good)
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Linda in Mn. We, too, are in the market for a trailer and plan to pull with an F-250. Am thinking of getting a three-horse trailer for two horses and a cart. I am not sure I am allowing enough room for the cart and two horses. Have looked at both the stock-type and the more enclosed type. What is a "ramp tail"?? Appreciate your comments about your trailer experiences.
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This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 1:49 PM Subject: Truck and trailer >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Hi - this is Nancy and Ernie from NH - we are in the market for getting our >first truck and trailer - we want a trailer that would house both Sonnie >and a meadowbrook carriage. We are thinking of getting a Ford F150 and a >gooseneck 2 horse stock trailer. Does anyone have any suggestions about >wether this combination is adequate. We would appreciate any info. Thanks >everyone! Nancy > No! A 150 is not enough, it may seem ok at first but you will wear out the transmission, and you won't have enough power. Get at least an F-250 and one that is set up for towing. I towed with a 150 for a few years and thought it was ok, but I ended up having to get the transmission rebuilt. Then I went to a F-250 Trailer Special. It has 1 ton suspension, 1 ton brake system, and a heavy duty transmission, with a 460 engine. Now maybe you don't need that big of an engine, but I'd much rather has too much power than not enough! Also this tows so much better than a 150. Much more stable! This is a 78 model, by the way, not a fancy new truck that costs a fortune. I love this truck. I do agree with getting a gooseneck. I have one now and I'll never haul a bumper pull again if I can help it. I have a 4 horse gooseneck and I can get it in and out of places I would never take my 2 horse bumper pull. A gooseneck also tows much nicer. I'm not sure that a 2 horse trailer will work for you though. Being a stock trailer it might, but if you can, load your cart into it before you buy and see if it will fit and leave room for your horse. Personally I like to load my cart first, then the horses. That way if you ever get in a wreck, God forbid, you don't have to unload your cart to get to your horse. That was one thing that really bothered me about hauling with my 2 horse. I think I would look at a 3 horse trailer myself. I haven't looked at stock trailer in awhile, but if it opens up into the tack room you might be able to load the cart up front. Also, does it have a ramp? I avoided these for years thinking I didn't want or need one. But I got tired of dealing with boards to load my cart (I have to do all this by myself) so my new trailer also has a ramp. I love it! Wouldn't be without it. No problem with the horses either. I also added a stud divider to the center of the trailer. Sometimes I pack a lot of stuff in around the cart and this way if we had a wreck, none of the equipment would get to the horses. Well, this is all just my opinion, but I have been hauling for about 20 years, so I think I can speak from experience. There are lots of ways you can go with the type of trailer you get. Just put a lot of thought into what you really want and look around at what others have done. Just DON'T skimp on the truck!! Also, have you considered aluminum? Well worth it if you can. This is my 4th trailer and I wanted it to be my last so I got aluminum this time. Lasts longer, holds its value much better, and being lighter is easier on your truck. Didn't mean to get so long winded. Hope I was some help. Good luck! Laurie Pittman www.angelfire.com/wa/torshome
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This message is from: "Joe & Denise Galbraith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have had horses of various types and trailers to haul them for many years now. Currently, we have both bumper-pull and gooseneck trailers. Two are 4-Star trailers (one 22ft custom-built bumper-pull and - 28ft 6 horse gooseneck), one is a Gooseneck stock trailer, one is a Neckover bumper-pull stock trailer, with assorted others. The bumper-pulls are nice ... easier to hook up, but we generally just use them locally and use the goosenecks for longer hauls. I feel the goosenecks are safer on the roads at highway speeds. We have hauled horses all over the country with a number of runs up and down the AlCan highway between Montana and Alaska using both types. I wish we had started out with the trailers we now have. I do think the aluminum trailers are worth the money; less weight, easier to keep up, safer floors. We have used a Circle J steel and a Logan steel in the past ... they are nice too. Our preferred trailers are the 4-Stars. Because of the easy-going attitudes of the fjords, we do not use dividers in the big one and have put up to 8 horses in it. It is 8ft wide with the horse compartment 24ft long. The versatility is great. It has a ramp tail, so we can put 2 horses with a wagon or carriage in, or any number of horses in it. Our recommendation would be don't buy something too small. If you get something that is just adequate for your present needs, you'll probably be trading it in for a larger one soon. On the matter of the truck, I would not try to haul much with a half-ton of any type. We use a one-ton Ford with a flat-bed. It has a 7.3 liter diesel, which gives us the power, but when we get another truck it will be at least a 1.5 ton (F 450 to F 650). I have driven diesel powered trucks for many years and do like them, but our next will be a gas-powered. Some years ago (about 5, I think), the feds forced refiners to cut the sulfur content of diesel fuel. That might have helped the pollution, but it sure hurts the longevity of the engines. Sulfur provided the lubricity needed for the injector pumps. If you get a diesel and want it to last 150,000+ miles (and who wouldn't?), you'll need to put a lubricity additive into each tankful. Gets expensive and a bother. Good luck with your selection.
Truck and trailer
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi - this is Nancy and Ernie from NH - we are in the market for getting our first truck and trailer - we want a trailer that would house both Sonnie and a meadowbrook carriage. We are thinking of getting a Ford F150 and a gooseneck 2 horse stock trailer. Does anyone have any suggestions about wether this combination is adequate. We would appreciate any info. Thanks everyone! Nancy
