[Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread Samuel Cartinhour
Hi,

I've been trying to set up my SDR-1000 for PSK31 operation using MixW 2.18
and sometimes DigiPan. I am at v1.10.1 of PowerSDR. I had my first QSO
last night (MixW) and received a good report on my signal.

However, I've noticed the following: when I transmit an idle signal into
a dummy load using either program, the forward power reported by PowerSDR
fluctuates between 0 and 25 watts. I also read power fluctuations on my
antenna tuner's meter. Is this normal for PSK31? Or is it diagnostic of a
setup problem? If I key PowerSDR directly by clicking TUN, there is no
fluctuation. The forward power reads 8 watts steady.

Some additional details: The sound card is an FA66. PowerSDR is set to
DIGU. TX GAIN is at -8. Following a suggestion I saw on the reflector, the
drive is set to 100 and the TX GAIN was adjusted until forward power was
around 25 watts (although this was difficult due to the fluctuating
reading as noted above). During transmission of an idle signal, the ALC
reading ranges from -8 to -12 dBm. The CPU% varies between 10 and 20%
whether or not I'm transmitting.

I am not sure what additional information would be helpful in diagnosing
the problem, so if I need to provide buffer settings, etc. please let me
know.

I checked the reflector archives and a similar question was posted once
before, but I couldn't find a description of a solution.

Thanks as always,

Sam W2SNX




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[Flexradio] AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail

2007-08-22 Thread KQ8RP
MessageI see Newegg has this dual core, Asus mobo and case on sale for around 
$200 total.  Would this run a 5K ok? Comments appreciated, thanks KQ8RP Scott


AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 
Processor - Retail 

Enabling dual core desktop computing and featuring two cores each operating at 
2.4GHz with a 512KB (1MB in total) L2 Cache, the Dual-Core AMD Athlon 64 X2 
4600+ Socket AM2 processor can perform calculations on two streams of data to 
increase efficiency and speed while running multiple programs and the new 
generation of multi-threaded software. A new 65w thermal power design saves 
more power than ever before and generates less heat. 

The new Socket AM2 from AMD is designed to enable next-generation platform 
innovations such as AMD Virtualization and high-performance, unbuffered DDR2 
memory (supporting up to DDR2 800) to the award-winning AMD64 architecture. 
Other advanced features include support for 3DNow! Professional technology and 
SSE3 to accelerate multimedia applications and enable stellar performance when 
working with games, audio, video and photography software. This adept processor 
is designed for people who want to stay at the forefront of technology and for 
those who depend on their PCs to keep them connected, informed, and 
entertained. 



Mobo and Case

ASUS V2-M2V890 AMD Socket AM2 AMD Athlon X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 VIA 
K8M890 2 x 240Pin VIA Chrome9 Barebone - Retail 

  Model 
  Brand ASUS 
  Model V2-M2V890 
  CPU Supported 
  CPU Type AMD Athlon X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 
  CPU Socket AMD Socket AM2 
  FSB 1000MHz HyperTransport 
  Chipset 
  North Bridge VIA K8M890 
  South Bridge VT8237A 
  Memory Supported 
  Memory slot 2 x 240Pin 
  Memory Type Supported DDR2 533/667 
  Max Memory Supported 2GB 
  Expansion Slots 
  AGP None 
  PCI Express 1 x PCI Express x16 + 1 x PCI Express x1 
  PCI 2 
  Storage 
  IDE ATA 2 x ATA 100 
  Serial ATA 2 x SATA 150 
  Graphics 
  Onboard Video VIA Chrome9 
  Video Memory Shared 
  Audio 
  Onboard Audio Realtek ALC880 
  Channel 8-CH 
  Communications 
  First LAN 10/100/1000 LAN 
  Max LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps 
  Extension Bays 
  3.5 Internal bays 1 
  3.5 External bays 2 
  5.25 External bays 2 
  Front Panel Ports 
  Front USB 2 
  Front Audio Ports 2 jacks 
  Back Panel Ports 
  PS/2 2 
  COM 1 
  LPT 1 
  VGA 1 x D-Sub 
  Rear USB 4 
  RJ45 1 
  Rear Audio Ports 6 jacks 
  Power Supply 
  Power Supply 250 W (PFC) 
  Physical SPEC 
  Dimensions 15.0 x 14.0 x 6.7 
  Packaging 
  Package Contents V2-M2V890 
  Driver Disk
  User Manual
  Software Disk
  SATA Cable
  Power Cord 
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[Flexradio] repeating question

2007-08-22 Thread FireBrick
I asked before but either didn't get a reply or missed.

My Quadra amp has a 'Set' feature.
By clicking the 'Set' button, it will activate a PTT and if the Rig 
transmits will recognize what band/antenna setting it should choose.

I can activate the PTT manually via the x2 ptt pins, but is it possible to 
also tell the SDR to transmit, as if I enabled the 'Tun' button?

pse and tu


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[Flexradio] SDR 1000 For Sale

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Harley
The SDR-1000™ from FlexRadio Systems is the hardware component of a 
complete Software Defined Radio (SDR) transceiver interface to a Windows 
Personal Computer. It was purchased April 2006 and still has 8 months on 
the warranty. The covers have never been of the unit

It provides everything needed to convert a PC into a high performance, 
11KHz-65MHz general coverage receiver with 160M-6M (2M optional) Amateur 
Radio band transmit capability.

The SDR-1000™ delivers 100W PEP on the 160-10m (50W 60m)HF bands and 
0.5W on 6 metres. (This package includes the SDR-100W PA linear stage.

I am suppling with this SDR-1000 the Delta 44 sound card, and breakout 
box and all the cables to hook it up. I am also suppling the parallel 
cable to connect the SDR-1000 to the PC.
Package price $12000. The reason I'm selling is because I have a 5000 on 
order.


The FlexRadio SDR-1000™ is also the first open source software, amateur 
radio transceiver to incorporate the scalable DSP performance of a 
personal computer (PC) and sound card to perform all modulation, 
demodulation, and control functions of the radio. The general purpose PC 
architecture now vastly outperforms even the best proprietary DSP chips, 
with cost/performance constantly improving. In addition, the 
professional audio market is driving significant improvements in sound 
card technology. The SDR-1000™ takes advantage of these trends to 
provide upgradeable hardware and software performance…the TT3O IMD .

The SDR-1000™ incorporates a novel Quadrature Sampling Detector (QSD) to 
provide high dynamic range with minimal components.

An Analog Devices AD9854 quadrature DDS and 200MHz 1ps jitter clock 
oscillator provides continuous coverage with very low phase noise.

The combination of the QSD and DSP digital signal processing produces a 
transceiver that has superior performance over conventional radios and 
easily upgraded with new software features provided at no additional 
cost. Receiver dynamic range and selectivity are in the top performance 
class of all amateur radio transceivers.

*SDR 1000 TRANSCEIVER SPECIFICATIONS*

All features and specifications are subject to change without notice.

Features and Options



SDR-1000





Available



NOW

Industry leading 2 KHz spacing, two-tone, third-order dynamic range 
performance

(IMD DR3 @ 14 MHz)



99 dB[1]

Preamp Med

Top performing 2 KHz spacing third-order intercept point

(IP3 @ 14 MHz)



+26 dBm[1]

Preamp Med

Receiver frequency range

(MHz) [optimized for amateur bands]



1.8 – 60 MHz

Transmitter frequency range

(MHz)



160-6m

Amateur Bands

Operating modes



USB, LSB, DSB, CWL, CWU, AM, SAM, DRM, DIGIU, DIGIL

FM (narrow)

RF power output



100W

160-10m

0.5W 6m

Frequency stability

[after warm up]



No data

DDS clock frequency



200 MHz

Control interface



USB or Parallel

TX/RX antenna connections

(connector type)



(1) BNC

RX only antenna connections

(connector type)



N/A

Transmitter 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 2 antenna routing options



N/A

Physical dimensions

(inches)



10.00 W

4.50 H

9.50 D

Physical dimensions

(cm)



24.1 cm W

11.4 cm H

25.4 cm D

Open Source PowerSDR™ DSP/User Interface software compatible



192 KHz wide, low-latency Panadapter spectrum display



Narrow band, real-time spectrum analyzer



Point and click snap tuning of signals on spectrum display



Balanced  unbalanced microphone inputs



One year warranty



External PTT controls



High volume, internally mounted, quiet cooling fan



Audio line-in  line-out

(RCA jacks)



Three (3) RCA keying outputs



DB-15 Connector

QSK operation



Semi QSK Only

External frequency reference input



Optional

Internal 2 meter transverter



Optional


*POWER SDR SOFTWARE*

The software functionality is provided via free download of the Power 
SDR software (from the Flex Radio web site). The PowerSDR™control 
software provides 100% of the signal processing and control for the 
SDR-1000™. A free download makes available the latest new features and 
performance improvements which are updated on almost a weekly basis. GPL 
open source licensing allows many users to contribute to the radio’s 
enhancement. On the other hand, NO software programming knowledge is 
required to operate and enjoy the radio.

Some of the features of PowerSDR™

· Real-time Panadapter and Waterfall Spectrum Displays of the passband

· User defined On the Fly drag and set Filter Setting

· Brick wall filters down to 25 Hz with no ringing

· Zero beat click tuning of signals in the Panadapter

· Advanced digital AGC performed after the filter

· DSP Noise Reduction, Noise Blanking (2) and Notch 

[Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Harley
The SDR-1000™ from FlexRadio Systems is the hardware component of a 
complete Software Defined Radio (SDR) transceiver interface to a Windows 
Personal Computer. It was purchased April 2006 and still has 8 months on 
the warranty. The covers have never been of the unit

It provides everything needed to convert a PC into a high performance, 
11KHz-65MHz general coverage receiver with 160M-6M (2M optional) Amateur 
Radio band transmit capability.

The SDR-1000™ delivers 100W PEP on the 160-10m (50W 60m)HF bands and 
0.5W on 6 metres. (This package includes the SDR-100W PA linear stage.

I am suppling with this SDR-1000 the Delta 44 sound card, and breakout 
box and all the cables to hook it up. I am also suppling the parallel 
cable to connect the SDR-1000 to the PC.
Package price $1200. The reason I'm selling is because I have a 5000 on 
order.


The FlexRadio SDR-1000™ is also the first open source software, amateur 
radio transceiver to incorporate the scalable DSP performance of a 
personal computer (PC) and sound card to perform all modulation, 
demodulation, and control functions of the radio. The general purpose PC 
architecture now vastly outperforms even the best proprietary DSP chips, 
with cost/performance constantly improving. In addition, the 
professional audio market is driving significant improvements in sound 
card technology. The SDR-1000™ takes advantage of these trends to 
provide upgradeable hardware and software performance…the TT3O IMD .

The SDR-1000™ incorporates a novel Quadrature Sampling Detector (QSD) to 
provide high dynamic range with minimal components.

An Analog Devices AD9854 quadrature DDS and 200MHz 1ps jitter clock 
oscillator provides continuous coverage with very low phase noise.

The combination of the QSD and DSP digital signal processing produces a 
transceiver that has superior performance over conventional radios and 
easily upgraded with new software features provided at no additional 
cost. Receiver dynamic range and selectivity are in the top performance 
class of all amateur radio transceivers.

*SDR 1000 TRANSCEIVER SPECIFICATIONS*

All features and specifications are subject to change without notice.

Features and Options



SDR-1000





Available



NOW

Industry leading 2 KHz spacing, two-tone, third-order dynamic range 
performance

(IMD DR3 @ 14 MHz)



99 dB[1]

Preamp Med

Top performing 2 KHz spacing third-order intercept point

(IP3 @ 14 MHz)



+26 dBm[1]

Preamp Med

Receiver frequency range

(MHz) [optimized for amateur bands]



1.8 – 60 MHz

Transmitter frequency range

(MHz)



160-6m

Amateur Bands

Operating modes



USB, LSB, DSB, CWL, CWU, AM, SAM, DRM, DIGIU, DIGIL

FM (narrow)

RF power output



100W

160-10m

0.5W 6m

Frequency stability

[after warm up]



No data

DDS clock frequency



200 MHz

Control interface



USB or Parallel

TX/RX antenna connections

(connector type)



(1) BNC

RX only antenna connections

(connector type)



N/A

Transmitter 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 2 antenna routing options



N/A

Physical dimensions

(inches)



10.00 W

4.50 H

9.50 D

Physical dimensions

(cm)



24.1 cm W

11.4 cm H

25.4 cm D

Open Source PowerSDR™ DSP/User Interface software compatible



192 KHz wide, low-latency Panadapter spectrum display



Narrow band, real-time spectrum analyzer



Point and click snap tuning of signals on spectrum display



Balanced  unbalanced microphone inputs



One year warranty



External PTT controls



High volume, internally mounted, quiet cooling fan



Audio line-in  line-out

(RCA jacks)



Three (3) RCA keying outputs



DB-15 Connector

QSK operation



Semi QSK Only

External frequency reference input



Optional

Internal 2 meter transverter



Optional


*POWER SDR SOFTWARE*

The software functionality is provided via free download of the Power 
SDR software (from the Flex Radio web site). The PowerSDR™control 
software provides 100% of the signal processing and control for the 
SDR-1000™. A free download makes available the latest new features and 
performance improvements which are updated on almost a weekly basis. GPL 
open source licensing allows many users to contribute to the radio’s 
enhancement. On the other hand, NO software programming knowledge is 
required to operate and enjoy the radio.

Some of the features of PowerSDR™

· Real-time Panadapter and Waterfall Spectrum Displays of the passband

· User defined On the Fly drag and set Filter Setting

· Brick wall filters down to 25 Hz with no ringing

· Zero beat click tuning of signals in the Panadapter

· Advanced digital AGC performed after the filter

· DSP Noise Reduction, Noise Blanking (2) and Notch 

Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread Jim, W4ATK
Sam, if you want to check your power out on PSK31 send a series of
semi-colons. You will indeed see fluctuation during PSK31 transmissions
because some characters exhibit a smaller duty cycle than others, hence
sending the semi-colons will exhibit near 100 percent duty cycle. Do not
exceed the rating of the amplifier which on PSK31 should be 40W maximum.
Actually I usually run at 30 to 35W here. Remeber PSK31 does a very good job
at low power levels. I hope this helps.

Jim, W4ATK

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Samuel Cartinhour
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:33 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31


Hi,

I've been trying to set up my SDR-1000 for PSK31 operation using MixW 2.18
and sometimes DigiPan. I am at v1.10.1 of PowerSDR. I had my first QSO
last night (MixW) and received a good report on my signal.

However, I've noticed the following: when I transmit an idle signal into
a dummy load using either program, the forward power reported by PowerSDR
fluctuates between 0 and 25 watts. I also read power fluctuations on my
antenna tuner's meter. Is this normal for PSK31? Or is it diagnostic of a
setup problem? If I key PowerSDR directly by clicking TUN, there is no
fluctuation. The forward power reads 8 watts steady.

Some additional details: The sound card is an FA66. PowerSDR is set to
DIGU. TX GAIN is at -8. Following a suggestion I saw on the reflector, the
drive is set to 100 and the TX GAIN was adjusted until forward power was
around 25 watts (although this was difficult due to the fluctuating
reading as noted above). During transmission of an idle signal, the ALC
reading ranges from -8 to -12 dBm. The CPU% varies between 10 and 20%
whether or not I'm transmitting.

I am not sure what additional information would be helpful in diagnosing
the problem, so if I need to provide buffer settings, etc. please let me
know.

I checked the reflector archives and a similar question was posted once
before, but I couldn't find a description of a solution.

Thanks as always,

Sam W2SNX




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Re: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000

2007-08-22 Thread Jim McLester
Shucks, I hoped the going price for an sdr1k was gonna be $12k, I might even 
sell mine for THAT!!!

Jim - W4YXU

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Harley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FlexRadio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000


The SDR-1000™ from FlexRadio Systems is the hardware component of a
complete Software Defined Radio (SDR) transceiver interface to a Windows
Personal Computer. It was purchased April 2006 and still has 8 months on
the warranty. The covers have never been of the unit

It provides everything needed to convert a PC into a high performance,
11KHz-65MHz general coverage receiver with 160M-6M (2M optional) Amateur
Radio band transmit capability.

The SDR-1000™ delivers 100W PEP on the 160-10m (50W 60m)HF bands and
0.5W on 6 metres. (This package includes the SDR-100W PA linear stage.

I am suppling with this SDR-1000 the Delta 44 sound card, and breakout
box and all the cables to hook it up. I am also suppling the parallel
cable to connect the SDR-1000 to the PC.
Package price $1200. The reason I'm selling is because I have a 5000 on
order.


The FlexRadio SDR-1000™ is also the first open source software, amateur
radio transceiver to incorporate the scalable DSP performance of a
personal computer (PC) and sound card to perform all modulation,
demodulation, and control functions of the radio. The general purpose PC
architecture now vastly outperforms even the best proprietary DSP chips,
with cost/performance constantly improving. In addition, the
professional audio market is driving significant improvements in sound
card technology. The SDR-1000™ takes advantage of these trends to
provide upgradeable hardware and software performance…the TT3O IMD .

The SDR-1000™ incorporates a novel Quadrature Sampling Detector (QSD) to
provide high dynamic range with minimal components.

An Analog Devices AD9854 quadrature DDS and 200MHz 1ps jitter clock
oscillator provides continuous coverage with very low phase noise.

The combination of the QSD and DSP digital signal processing produces a
transceiver that has superior performance over conventional radios and
easily upgraded with new software features provided at no additional
cost. Receiver dynamic range and selectivity are in the top performance
class of all amateur radio transceivers.

*SDR 1000 TRANSCEIVER SPECIFICATIONS*

All features and specifications are subject to change without notice.

Features and Options



SDR-1000





Available



NOW

Industry leading 2 KHz spacing, two-tone, third-order dynamic range
performance

(IMD DR3 @ 14 MHz)



99 dB[1]

Preamp Med

Top performing 2 KHz spacing third-order intercept point

(IP3 @ 14 MHz)



+26 dBm[1]

Preamp Med

Receiver frequency range

(MHz) [optimized for amateur bands]



1.8 – 60 MHz

Transmitter frequency range

(MHz)



160-6m

Amateur Bands

Operating modes



USB, LSB, DSB, CWL, CWU, AM, SAM, DRM, DIGIU, DIGIL

FM (narrow)

RF power output



100W

160-10m

0.5W 6m

Frequency stability

[after warm up]



No data

DDS clock frequency



200 MHz

Control interface



USB or Parallel

TX/RX antenna connections

(connector type)



(1) BNC

RX only antenna connections

(connector type)



N/A

Transmitter 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 2 antenna routing options



N/A

Physical dimensions

(inches)



10.00 W

4.50 H

9.50 D

Physical dimensions

(cm)



24.1 cm W

11.4 cm H

25.4 cm D

Open Source PowerSDR™ DSP/User Interface software compatible



192 KHz wide, low-latency Panadapter spectrum display



Narrow band, real-time spectrum analyzer



Point and click snap tuning of signals on spectrum display



Balanced  unbalanced microphone inputs



One year warranty



External PTT controls



High volume, internally mounted, quiet cooling fan



Audio line-in  line-out

(RCA jacks)



Three (3) RCA keying outputs



DB-15 Connector

QSK operation



Semi QSK Only

External frequency reference input



Optional

Internal 2 meter transverter



Optional


*POWER SDR SOFTWARE*

The software functionality is provided via free download of the Power
SDR software (from the Flex Radio web site). The PowerSDR™control
software provides 100% of the signal processing and control for the
SDR-1000™. A free download makes available the latest new features and
performance improvements which are updated on almost a weekly basis. GPL
open source licensing allows many users to contribute to the radio’s
enhancement. On the other hand, NO software programming knowledge is
required to operate and enjoy the radio.

Some of the features of PowerSDR™

· Real-time Panadapter and Waterfall Spectrum Displays of the passband

· User defined On the Fly drag and set Filter Setting

· Brick wall filters down to 25 Hz with no ringing

· Zero beat click tuning of signals in the Panadapter

· Advanced digital AGC performed after the filter

· DSP Noise Reduction, Noise 

Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread Tim Ellison
Sam,

How are you interfacing PowerSDR to the sound card program?  If it is
VAC, you might be seeing audio buffering problems that can cause the
behavior you are seeing.  Based on the way you have MixW configured, you
can easily see (and hear) this behavior.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Cartinhour
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:33 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

Hi,

I've been trying to set up my SDR-1000 for PSK31 operation using MixW
2.18 and sometimes DigiPan. I am at v1.10.1 of PowerSDR. I had my first
QSO last night (MixW) and received a good report on my signal.

However, I've noticed the following: when I transmit an idle signal
into a dummy load using either program, the forward power reported by
PowerSDR fluctuates between 0 and 25 watts. I also read power
fluctuations on my antenna tuner's meter. Is this normal for PSK31? Or
is it diagnostic of a setup problem? If I key PowerSDR directly by
clicking TUN, there is no fluctuation. The forward power reads 8 watts
steady.

Some additional details: The sound card is an FA66. PowerSDR is set to
DIGU. TX GAIN is at -8. Following a suggestion I saw on the reflector,
the drive is set to 100 and the TX GAIN was adjusted until forward power
was around 25 watts (although this was difficult due to the fluctuating
reading as noted above). During transmission of an idle signal, the ALC
reading ranges from -8 to -12 dBm. The CPU% varies between 10 and 20%
whether or not I'm transmitting.

I am not sure what additional information would be helpful in diagnosing
the problem, so if I need to provide buffer settings, etc. please let me
know.

I checked the reflector archives and a similar question was posted once
before, but I couldn't find a description of a solution.

Thanks as always,

Sam W2SNX




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Re: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000

2007-08-22 Thread Tim Ellison
Me too! LOL 


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McLester
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:33 AM
To: Jerry Harley; FlexRadio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000

Shucks, I hoped the going price for an sdr1k was gonna be $12k, I might
even sell mine for THAT!!!

Jim - W4YXU

- Original Message -
From: Jerry Harley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FlexRadio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000


The SDR-1000(tm) from FlexRadio Systems is the hardware component of a
complete Software Defined Radio (SDR) transceiver interface to a Windows
Personal Computer. It was purchased April 2006 and still has 8 months on
the warranty. The covers have never been of the unit

It provides everything needed to convert a PC into a high performance,
11KHz-65MHz general coverage receiver with 160M-6M (2M optional) Amateur
Radio band transmit capability.

The SDR-1000(tm) delivers 100W PEP on the 160-10m (50W 60m)HF bands and
0.5W on 6 metres. (This package includes the SDR-100W PA linear stage.

I am suppling with this SDR-1000 the Delta 44 sound card, and breakout
box and all the cables to hook it up. I am also suppling the parallel
cable to connect the SDR-1000 to the PC.
Package price $1200. The reason I'm selling is because I have a 5000 on
order.


The FlexRadio SDR-1000(tm) is also the first open source software,
amateur
radio transceiver to incorporate the scalable DSP performance of a
personal computer (PC) and sound card to perform all modulation,
demodulation, and control functions of the radio. The general purpose PC
architecture now vastly outperforms even the best proprietary DSP chips,
with cost/performance constantly improving. In addition, the
professional audio market is driving significant improvements in sound
card technology. The SDR-1000(tm) takes advantage of these trends to
provide upgradeable hardware and software performance...the TT3O IMD .

The SDR-1000(tm) incorporates a novel Quadrature Sampling Detector (QSD)
to
provide high dynamic range with minimal components.

An Analog Devices AD9854 quadrature DDS and 200MHz 1ps jitter clock
oscillator provides continuous coverage with very low phase noise.

The combination of the QSD and DSP digital signal processing produces a
transceiver that has superior performance over conventional radios and
easily upgraded with new software features provided at no additional
cost. Receiver dynamic range and selectivity are in the top performance
class of all amateur radio transceivers.

*SDR 1000 TRANSCEIVER SPECIFICATIONS*

All features and specifications are subject to change without notice.

Features and Options



SDR-1000





Available



NOW

Industry leading 2 KHz spacing, two-tone, third-order dynamic range
performance

(IMD DR3 @ 14 MHz)



99 dB[1]

Preamp Med

Top performing 2 KHz spacing third-order intercept point

(IP3 @ 14 MHz)



+26 dBm[1]

Preamp Med

Receiver frequency range

(MHz) [optimized for amateur bands]



1.8 - 60 MHz

Transmitter frequency range

(MHz)



160-6m

Amateur Bands

Operating modes



USB, LSB, DSB, CWL, CWU, AM, SAM, DRM, DIGIU, DIGIL

FM (narrow)

RF power output



100W

160-10m

0.5W 6m

Frequency stability

[after warm up]



No data

DDS clock frequency



200 MHz

Control interface



USB or Parallel

TX/RX antenna connections

(connector type)



(1) BNC

RX only antenna connections

(connector type)



N/A

Transmitter 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 2 antenna routing options



N/A

Physical dimensions

(inches)



10.00 W

4.50 H

9.50 D

Physical dimensions

(cm)



24.1 cm W

11.4 cm H

25.4 cm D

Open Source PowerSDR(tm) DSP/User Interface software compatible



192 KHz wide, low-latency Panadapter spectrum display



Narrow band, real-time spectrum analyzer



Point and click snap tuning of signals on spectrum display



Balanced  unbalanced microphone inputs



One year warranty



External PTT controls



High volume, internally mounted, quiet cooling fan



Audio line-in  line-out

(RCA jacks)



Three (3) RCA keying outputs



DB-15 Connector

QSK operation



Semi QSK Only

External frequency reference input



Optional

Internal 2 meter transverter



Optional


*POWER SDR SOFTWARE*

The software functionality is provided via free download of the Power
SDR software (from the Flex Radio web site). The PowerSDR(tm)control
software provides 100% of the signal processing and control for the
SDR-1000(tm). A free download makes available the latest new features
and
performance improvements which are updated on almost a weekly basis. GPL
open source licensing allows many users to contribute to the radio's
enhancement. On the other hand, NO software programming knowledge is
required to operate and enjoy the radio.

Some of the features of PowerSDR(tm)

* Real-time Panadapter and 

Re: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000

2007-08-22 Thread Jim, W4ATK
Ah Phooey! I was gonna sell mine and order another Flex-5000A or two!

Jim, W4ATK

- Original Message -
From: Jerry Harley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FlexRadio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000


The SDR-1000(tm) from FlexRadio Systems is the hardware component of a
complete Software Defined Radio (SDR) transceiver interface to a Windows
Personal Computer. It was purchased April 2006 and still has 8 months on
the warranty. The covers have never been of the unit

It provides everything needed to convert a PC into a high performance,
11KHz-65MHz general coverage receiver with 160M-6M (2M optional) Amateur
Radio band transmit capability.

The SDR-1000(tm) delivers 100W PEP on the 160-10m (50W 60m)HF bands and
0.5W on 6 metres. (This package includes the SDR-100W PA linear stage.

I am suppling with this SDR-1000 the Delta 44 sound card, and breakout
box and all the cables to hook it up. I am also suppling the parallel
cable to connect the SDR-1000 to the PC.
Package price $1200. The reason I'm selling is because I have a 5000 on
order.


The FlexRadio SDR-1000(tm) is also the first open source software,
amateur
radio transceiver to incorporate the scalable DSP performance of a
personal computer (PC) and sound card to perform all modulation,
demodulation, and control functions of the radio. The general purpose PC
architecture now vastly outperforms even the best proprietary DSP chips,
with cost/performance constantly improving. In addition, the
professional audio market is driving significant improvements in sound
card technology. The SDR-1000(tm) takes advantage of these trends to
provide upgradeable hardware and software performance...the TT3O IMD .

The SDR-1000(tm) incorporates a novel Quadrature Sampling Detector (QSD)
to
provide high dynamic range with minimal components.

An Analog Devices AD9854 quadrature DDS and 200MHz 1ps jitter clock
oscillator provides continuous coverage with very low phase noise.

The combination of the QSD and DSP digital signal processing produces a
transceiver that has superior performance over conventional radios and
easily upgraded with new software features provided at no additional
cost. Receiver dynamic range and selectivity are in the top performance
class of all amateur radio transceivers.

*SDR 1000 TRANSCEIVER SPECIFICATIONS*

All features and specifications are subject to change without notice.

Features and Options



SDR-1000





Available



NOW

Industry leading 2 KHz spacing, two-tone, third-order dynamic range
performance

(IMD DR3 @ 14 MHz)



99 dB[1]

Preamp Med

Top performing 2 KHz spacing third-order intercept point

(IP3 @ 14 MHz)



+26 dBm[1]

Preamp Med

Receiver frequency range

(MHz) [optimized for amateur bands]



1.8 - 60 MHz

Transmitter frequency range

(MHz)



160-6m

Amateur Bands

Operating modes



USB, LSB, DSB, CWL, CWU, AM, SAM, DRM, DIGIU, DIGIL

FM (narrow)

RF power output



100W

160-10m

0.5W 6m

Frequency stability

[after warm up]



No data

DDS clock frequency



200 MHz

Control interface



USB or Parallel

TX/RX antenna connections

(connector type)



(1) BNC

RX only antenna connections

(connector type)



N/A

Transmitter 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 1 antenna routing options



BNC

Receiver 2 antenna routing options



N/A

Physical dimensions

(inches)



10.00 W

4.50 H

9.50 D

Physical dimensions

(cm)



24.1 cm W

11.4 cm H

25.4 cm D

Open Source PowerSDR(tm) DSP/User Interface software compatible



192 KHz wide, low-latency Panadapter spectrum display



Narrow band, real-time spectrum analyzer



Point and click snap tuning of signals on spectrum display



Balanced  unbalanced microphone inputs



One year warranty



External PTT controls



High volume, internally mounted, quiet cooling fan



Audio line-in  line-out

(RCA jacks)



Three (3) RCA keying outputs



DB-15 Connector

QSK operation



Semi QSK Only

External frequency reference input



Optional

Internal 2 meter transverter



Optional


*POWER SDR SOFTWARE*

The software functionality is provided via free download of the Power
SDR software (from the Flex Radio web site). The PowerSDR(tm)control
software provides 100% of the signal processing and control for the
SDR-1000(tm). A free download makes available the latest new features
and
performance improvements which are updated on almost a weekly basis. GPL
open source licensing allows many users to contribute to the radio's
enhancement. On the other hand, NO software programming knowledge is
required to operate and enjoy the radio.

Some of the features of PowerSDR(tm)

* Real-time Panadapter and Waterfall Spectrum Displays of the passband

* User defined On the Fly drag and set Filter Setting

* Brick wall filters down to 25 Hz with no ringing

* Zero beat click tuning of signals in the Panadapter

* Advanced digital AGC performed after the filter

* DSP Noise Reduction, Noise 

Re: [Flexradio] AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail

2007-08-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann
That looks like it would run fine.  We have gathered a bit more experience
using the FLEX-5000 with a variety of computer speeds lately and I have
concluded that in order to run 192kHz without interruptions (pops, glitches,
burps, etc), it is necessary to have dual core computer.  

There are some exceptions to this rule on the high end of the single core
hypertheaded CPUs (P4 3.4GHz), but our general rule from experience is that
dual cores are the way to go.

Having said that, 96kHz works on much lesser machines.  We have a Celeron
2.4GHz Dell Optiplex that hums along just fine with a fairly low CPU% (teens
and 20s) at 96kHz.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of KQ8RP
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:32 AM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB
 L2Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
 
 MessageI see Newegg has this dual core, Asus mobo and case on sale for
 around $200 total.  Would this run a 5K ok? Comments appreciated, thanks
 KQ8RP Scott
 
 
 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2
 Processor - Retail
 
 Enabling dual core desktop computing and featuring two cores each
 operating at 2.4GHz with a 512KB (1MB in total) L2 Cache, the Dual-Core
 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Socket AM2 processor can perform calculations on
 two streams of data to increase efficiency and speed while running
 multiple programs and the new generation of multi-threaded software. A new
 65w thermal power design saves more power than ever before and generates
 less heat.
 
 The new Socket AM2 from AMD is designed to enable next-generation platform
 innovations such as AMD Virtualization and high-performance, unbuffered
 DDR2 memory (supporting up to DDR2 800) to the award-winning AMD64
 architecture. Other advanced features include support for 3DNow!
 Professional technology and SSE3 to accelerate multimedia applications and
 enable stellar performance when working with games, audio, video and
 photography software. This adept processor is designed for people who want
 to stay at the forefront of technology and for those who depend on their
 PCs to keep them connected, informed, and entertained.
 
 
 
 Mobo and Case
 
 ASUS V2-M2V890 AMD Socket AM2 AMD Athlon X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 VIA
 K8M890 2 x 240Pin VIA Chrome9 Barebone - Retail
 
   Model
   Brand ASUS
   Model V2-M2V890
   CPU Supported
   CPU Type AMD Athlon X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64
   CPU Socket AMD Socket AM2
   FSB 1000MHz HyperTransport
   Chipset
   North Bridge VIA K8M890
   South Bridge VT8237A
   Memory Supported
   Memory slot 2 x 240Pin
   Memory Type Supported DDR2 533/667
   Max Memory Supported 2GB
   Expansion Slots
   AGP None
   PCI Express 1 x PCI Express x16 + 1 x PCI Express x1
   PCI 2
   Storage
   IDE ATA 2 x ATA 100
   Serial ATA 2 x SATA 150
   Graphics
   Onboard Video VIA Chrome9
   Video Memory Shared
   Audio
   Onboard Audio Realtek ALC880
   Channel 8-CH
   Communications
   First LAN 10/100/1000 LAN
   Max LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
   Extension Bays
   3.5 Internal bays 1
   3.5 External bays 2
   5.25 External bays 2
   Front Panel Ports
   Front USB 2
   Front Audio Ports 2 jacks
   Back Panel Ports
   PS/2 2
   COM 1
   LPT 1
   VGA 1 x D-Sub
   Rear USB 4
   RJ45 1
   Rear Audio Ports 6 jacks
   Power Supply
   Power Supply 250 W (PFC)
   Physical SPEC
   Dimensions 15.0 x 14.0 x 6.7
   Packaging
   Package Contents V2-M2V890
   Driver Disk
   User Manual
   Software Disk
   SATA Cable
   Power Cord
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Re: [Flexradio] repeating question

2007-08-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann
Not TUN.  I believe X2 pin 11 will key the radio, but it will not put out a
tone (unless, of course you are in FMN, AM, or SAM mode).


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of FireBrick
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:37 AM
 To: FlexRadio List
 Subject: [Flexradio] repeating question
 
 I asked before but either didn't get a reply or missed.
 
 My Quadra amp has a 'Set' feature.
 By clicking the 'Set' button, it will activate a PTT and if the Rig
 transmits will recognize what band/antenna setting it should choose.
 
 I can activate the PTT manually via the x2 ptt pins, but is it possible to
 also tell the SDR to transmit, as if I enabled the 'Tun' button?
 
 pse and tu
 
 
 -
 Timing has an awful lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
 -
 
 Bill H. in Chicagoland
 webcams at http://76.16.160.118:8080/
 weather at http://hhweather.webhop.org
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail

2007-08-22 Thread Neal Campbell
At our beach house, I was using a single core AMD 3800 with a gig of
memory and 96Khz/512 buffer size ran a cool 30% cpu. I did follow the
excellent advice in the knowledgebase though on optimizing WinXP
(sorry for the oxymoronic term).

Neal

On 8/22/07, Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That looks like it would run fine.  We have gathered a bit more experience
 using the FLEX-5000 with a variety of computer speeds lately and I have
 concluded that in order to run 192kHz without interruptions (pops, glitches,
 burps, etc), it is necessary to have dual core computer.

 There are some exceptions to this rule on the high end of the single core
 hypertheaded CPUs (P4 3.4GHz), but our general rule from experience is that
 dual cores are the way to go.

 Having said that, 96kHz works on much lesser machines.  We have a Celeron
 2.4GHz Dell Optiplex that hums along just fine with a fairly low CPU% (teens
 and 20s) at 96kHz.


 Eric Wachsmann
 FlexRadio Systems

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  radio.biz] On Behalf Of KQ8RP
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:32 AM
  To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  Subject: [Flexradio] AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB
  L2Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
 
  MessageI see Newegg has this dual core, Asus mobo and case on sale for
  around $200 total.  Would this run a 5K ok? Comments appreciated, thanks
  KQ8RP Scott
 
 
  AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2
  Processor - Retail
 
  Enabling dual core desktop computing and featuring two cores each
  operating at 2.4GHz with a 512KB (1MB in total) L2 Cache, the Dual-Core
  AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Socket AM2 processor can perform calculations on
  two streams of data to increase efficiency and speed while running
  multiple programs and the new generation of multi-threaded software. A new
  65w thermal power design saves more power than ever before and generates
  less heat.
 
  The new Socket AM2 from AMD is designed to enable next-generation platform
  innovations such as AMD Virtualization and high-performance, unbuffered
  DDR2 memory (supporting up to DDR2 800) to the award-winning AMD64
  architecture. Other advanced features include support for 3DNow!
  Professional technology and SSE3 to accelerate multimedia applications and
  enable stellar performance when working with games, audio, video and
  photography software. This adept processor is designed for people who want
  to stay at the forefront of technology and for those who depend on their
  PCs to keep them connected, informed, and entertained.
 
 
 
  Mobo and Case
 
  ASUS V2-M2V890 AMD Socket AM2 AMD Athlon X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 VIA
  K8M890 2 x 240Pin VIA Chrome9 Barebone - Retail
 
Model
Brand ASUS
Model V2-M2V890
CPU Supported
CPU Type AMD Athlon X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64
CPU Socket AMD Socket AM2
FSB 1000MHz HyperTransport
Chipset
North Bridge VIA K8M890
South Bridge VT8237A
Memory Supported
Memory slot 2 x 240Pin
Memory Type Supported DDR2 533/667
Max Memory Supported 2GB
Expansion Slots
AGP None
PCI Express 1 x PCI Express x16 + 1 x PCI Express x1
PCI 2
Storage
IDE ATA 2 x ATA 100
Serial ATA 2 x SATA 150
Graphics
Onboard Video VIA Chrome9
Video Memory Shared
Audio
Onboard Audio Realtek ALC880
Channel 8-CH
Communications
First LAN 10/100/1000 LAN
Max LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps
Extension Bays
3.5 Internal bays 1
3.5 External bays 2
5.25 External bays 2
Front Panel Ports
Front USB 2
Front Audio Ports 2 jacks
Back Panel Ports
PS/2 2
COM 1
LPT 1
VGA 1 x D-Sub
Rear USB 4
RJ45 1
Rear Audio Ports 6 jacks
Power Supply
Power Supply 250 W (PFC)
Physical SPEC
Dimensions 15.0 x 14.0 x 6.7
Packaging
Package Contents V2-M2V890
Driver Disk
User Manual
Software Disk
SATA Cable
Power Cord
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[Flexradio] Faros/Rocky/sdr-1000/fa-66 ...

2007-08-22 Thread richard allen
Notes on using Faros 1.2 with sdr-1000 and fa-66 audio.

You can use Faros 1.2 with your sdr-1000 if you are using the Edirol fa-66 
sound device.

First set the fa-66 and sdr-1000 up for 96000 Hz sample rate.  Go to 14.100 CWU 
with CW Pitch set to 600 Hz. Turn off SR (Spur Reduction). Also make sure that 
the DDS IF is set to the default 9000 Hz.  I am using the Beta 1.9.1 release 
although I'm certain this would work with newer SVN's.  My setting for 
Audio:Sound Card:Buffer Size was 1024 and DSP:Options:Buffer Size was 2048 for 
these tests.

Bring up Faros 1.2 and make sure it is paused. Go to Settings:Audio and select 
EDIROL FA-66 In 2 as the Audio input device.  Set the samplling rate to 96 kHz 
and select I/Q (Right/Left channels).  Set the CW Pitch to 600 and the Audio IF 
to 9600 (not 96000).

Start Faros and it should all come up running.  For a warm feeling that you 
have it correctly set, tune the sdr-1000 to WWV and make sure that the carrier 
is centered on the Faros waterfall display.  Then tune back to 14.100 for the 
NCDXF beacons.  You can also set Faros 1.2 up to drive the CAT of the sdr-1000 
to have it automatically switch beacon frequencies. Use the ts-2000 setting on 
both the sdr-1000 and Faros.  The virtual serial port, VCom, works fine here.

The neat thing about this is that it needs no wires or VAC.  Faros 1.2 does not 
do well with VAC due to some kind of problem in VAC.  With the above setup, the 
delay correction in Faros is only about 20 ms to bring the short path hits in a 
nice grouping.  Using VAC the delay was considerable and the timing was very 
messed up.

Rocky 3.32 can also be used in a similar fashion with the sdr-1000 being used 
as a fixed frequency setup and Rocky doing the tuning.  Since this setup is so 
simple, it would be really great if Rocky and PowerSDR could exchange 
information via some, as yet undefined, link.

With the same sdr-1000 settings as above, tune the sdr-1000 to the 'rock' 
frequency that you want.

In Faros Settings:Audio select EDIROL FA-66 In 2 again at 96 kHz and select 
Left/Right = Q/I.  Then in Settings:DSP select Single Band and your 'rock' 
frequency - 9600.  For the 14.100 MHz setting on the sdr-1000, set Rocky's 
Local Oscillator to 14090400 Hz.  Set the CW pitch to 600 and Upper for the CW 
Sideband.  You can now use the beautiful Rocky displays to tune around the 
fixed sdr-1000 frequency.

I hope I didn't miss any details; there are a lot of settings.

Enjoy!

Richard W5SXD

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Re: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000

2007-08-22 Thread FireBrick
Sowhy not all of us just advertize our SDR1K's for $12K.
If we tell them, that's what they are worth

Or do you think the FTC will come after us for Price Fixing and collusion?
LOL

After all, it works for MS, BP, Detroit, and all the others.
Have you bought a gallon of MILK lately?


On 8/22/2007 9:39:37 AM, Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Me too! LOL
 
 
 -Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McLester
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:33 AM
 To: Jerry Harley; FlexRadio
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000
 
 Shucks, I hoped the going price for an sdr1k was gonna be $12k, I might
 even sell mine for THAT!!!
 
 Jim - W4YXU
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jerry Harley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FlexRadio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:47 AM
 Subject: [Flexradio] Opps - price correction on the SDR-1000
 
 
 The SDR-1000(tm) from FlexRadio Systems is the hardware component of a
 complete Software Defined Radio (SDR) transceiver interface to a Windows
 Personal Computer. It was purchased April 2006 and still has 8 months on
 the warranty. The covers have never been of the unit
 
 It provides everything needed to convert a PC into a high performance,
 11KHz-65MHz general coverage receiver with 160M-6M (2M optional) Amateur
 Radio band transmit capability.
 
 The SDR-1000(tm) delivers 100W PEP on the 160-10m (50W 60m)HF b

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Re: [Flexradio] [KB] Knowledge Base articles updated and added

2007-08-22 Thread Jim Lux
At 09:46 AM 8/22/2007, FlexRadio KB Admin wrote:
Based on recent questions posted on the reflector, the Knowledge Base has
been updated with new information.

The KB article, Q10410 - What kind of PC should I buy for the FLEX-5000A?,
has recently been updated.  It can be reviewed here:
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10410


One piece of advice in that article I might quibble with, and that's 
the recommendation to get a system that's expandable.. Based on a 
fair amount of experience and discussion in the high performance 
cluster computing (Beowulf) community,  I'm not sure that's a good 
systems approach, and here's why:

You have two alternatives:
#1 Buy the highest performance computer, and one that has 
expandability.  Some time down the road, spend some money to enhance 
the computer to meet a future requirement.  Note that:
a) you will pay more (today) for the extensability
b) you will pay something (in the future) for the enhancement
c) you will spend some of your time doing the modifications and 
debugging unforseen hardware interactions.

#2 Buy the computer that works for today, but with no allowance for 
modification.  Some time down the road, you'll need to buy a new 
computer because the existing one won't work.
a) The computer you buy today will be cheaper
b) The computer you buy in a couple years will be about the same 
price as the one you buy today, but with more performance
c) You'll spend some time moving software over, but not redoing the hardware.


So it comes down to how much the modification parts and labor value 
is associated with #1, complicated by the fact that you will be 
modifying a computer for which all the other components are already 
several years old, and that much closer to the end of their life.  In 
alternative 2, you'll be installing into a nice new clean machine, 
most likely with a bigger faster disk, faster processor, and more 
faster RAM than the modified machine #1 would be.

Figure that the motherboard and infrastructure in the computer you 
buy today are designed to optimize value for a particular nominal 
configuration (disk size, RAM size/speed, and processor).  You might 
be able to drop in a faster CPU, but it will be limited by the RAM 
(which was selected to match the previous CPU) and the various bus 
controllers (North and South Bridges, etc.). If you replace the RAM 
too, then you have to worry about the board's clocking and various 
bus controllers.

There's also things like power management features and thermal 
control that one will have to deal with in a modification.

Unless you're planning on doing the upgrade in the first few months, 
it's likely that several years down, you might not even be able to 
get compatible upgrade parts (e.g. CPU socket styles keep changing).

If you take a 3 year life cycle (which is probably short for a ham, 
but typical in business), and look at the CPU/memory/infrastructure 
requirements of PowerSDR over that time, you'd find that no matter 
how expandable the computer was that you bought 3 years ago, it 
probably wouldn't work for today's PowerSDR.  As recently as 2004, 
here were the stated PC requirements for SDR-Console:
CPU- 800MHz
RAM- 256MB required, 512MB pref
16 bit sound card

One could buy a computer that would do this stuff for around $500 
(exclusive of monitor) without working too hard, and it might have a 
20 or 40GB drive.


At that time, a hot stuff PC would have been a 2.8GHz P4, and 768MB 
of RAM, and it would have had a USB1.1 interface, and some PCI slots, 
and would have set you back, say, $3000, and you probably would have 
bought a big CRT monitor. Whether it would support today's F5K is 
sort of dicey.. would it support full speed FireWire?

So here we are today, 3 years later, and one can buy, for $350, a PC 
with a 3.6GHz AMD, 1GB ram, 160GB hard drive, etc., but no 
monitor  And that's a box stock unit from Dell, not some swap meet 
scrounging and spending a few hours assembling it.

For $500, you could get the Dual Core, the LCD monitor, 1G ram, etc.


So, maybe the better systems approach is to plan spend $500 every 
year, getting whatever is at that pricepoint, and which will run the 
current version of PowerSDR.  Over the 3 years, you'd spend $1500, 
and still wind up with a computer that is more powerful than the 
$3000 beast you bought back in 2004.


Fundamentally, modern inexpensive consumer PCs are not designed for 
modification.  They are an appliance (you don't upgrade the heating 
element in your toaster, do you?).

The wear-out and age factors ARE important.  Consumer gear is 
definitely designed for a certain life, and for cost containment, 
they don't invest anything extra in improving life.  In a well 
engineered system, all the components tend to fail together.


Some of these assumptions aren't valid if:
a) you're buying surplus or find a really good deal - a perfectly 
valid strategy for a one-off application.. not valid for a cluster 
computer with 1000 

[Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Jim Lux
I note the following comment in the KB article:

You definitely want to get a multi-core (AMD or Intel)  or a Pentium 
D processor since future versions of PowerSDR will be taking 
advantage of the technology. 

Leaving aside the fact that today dual core processors aren't hugely 
expensive (in fact, one of the cheapest computers Dell sells is a 
dual core), so the whole issue might be moot.

However, if one is going to buy for the future, it would be nice to 
know when that future will arrive. If the future version of 
PowerSDR that takes advantage of the processor doesn't arrive until, 
say, 2009, maybe you'd be better off saving your pennies and spending 
them on some other piece of ham gear (that second receiver 
option?).  One might also want to know how that taking advantage 
will work, so that one could know what other enabling conditions (if 
any) that would be required (e.g. a particular OS or version, etc.).

Maybe limping along with your existing computer, and waiting a year 
to upgrade the computer, might be a better strategy.



Jim, W6RMK 



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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Lyle Johnson
 You definitely want to get a multi-core (AMD or Intel)  or a Pentium 
 D processor since future versions of PowerSDR will be taking 
 advantage of the technology. 
 
 Leaving aside the fact that today dual core processors aren't hugely 
 expensive (in fact, one of the cheapest computers Dell sells is a 
 dual core), so the whole issue might be moot.

Maybe a statement that In the Flex 5000C the computer spec is:. CPU 
RAM VIDEO HD FIREWIRE will further give us an idea of what is 
really needed for the future, especially if one is going to dedicate a 
computer to the radio, since one assumes that the 5000C will work with 
whatever is planned for future versions of PowerSDR...


73,

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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Neal Campbell
I just upgraded my computer to a Q6600 configuration. The Q6600 (quad
core) is only abt 70 bucks more than the E6600 (dual core).

I honestly think any modern CPU (Athlon 3800 or greater, Pentium
3gHz, any dual  core) will pass muster. I think video cards are also a
moot point, other than avoiding embedded video cards. For my money, I
think system tuning is the first prerequisite and then memory. I would
say 2gb of dual channel memory is a good starting point.

Should we create a configurator (like the wonderful Vista
compatibility program that BS, er MS offers) that gives an opinion?

Neal

On 8/22/07, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You definitely want to get a multi-core (AMD or Intel)  or a Pentium
  D processor since future versions of PowerSDR will be taking
  advantage of the technology. 
 
  Leaving aside the fact that today dual core processors aren't hugely
  expensive (in fact, one of the cheapest computers Dell sells is a
  dual core), so the whole issue might be moot.

 Maybe a statement that In the Flex 5000C the computer spec is:. CPU
 RAM VIDEO HD FIREWIRE will further give us an idea of what is
 really needed for the future, especially if one is going to dedicate a
 computer to the radio, since one assumes that the 5000C will work with
 whatever is planned for future versions of PowerSDR...


 73,

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Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread lwloen

 Hi,

 I've been trying to set up my SDR-1000 for PSK31 operation using MixW
 2.18 and sometimes DigiPan. I am at v1.10.1 of PowerSDR. I had my first
 QSO last night (MixW) and received a good report on my signal.

 However, I've noticed the following: when I transmit an idle signal
 into a dummy load using either program, the forward power reported by
 PowerSDR fluctuates between 0 and 25 watts. I also read power
 fluctuations on my antenna tuner's meter. Is this normal for PSK31? Or
 is it diagnostic of a setup problem? If I key PowerSDR directly by
 clicking TUN, there is no fluctuation. The forward power reads 8 watts
 steady.

 Some additional details: The sound card is an FA66. PowerSDR is set to
 DIGU. TX GAIN is at -8. Following a suggestion I saw on the reflector,
 the drive is set to 100 and the TX GAIN was adjusted until forward power
 was around 25 watts (although this was difficult due to the fluctuating
 reading as noted above). During transmission of an idle signal, the ALC
 reading ranges from -8 to -12 dBm. The CPU% varies between 10 and 20%
 whether or not I'm transmitting.

 I am not sure what additional information would be helpful in diagnosing
 the problem, so if I need to provide buffer settings, etc. please let me
 know.

 I checked the reflector archives and a similar question was posted once
 before, but I couldn't find a description of a solution.

 Thanks as always,

 Sam W2SNX


I don't know about an idle signal, but I have always noticed power
fluxuations on PSK31 using MixW and the SDR 1000.  It has not (to my
knowledge) been an issue in terms of transmitting and receiving signals. 
I have used two versions of MixW now and it has been that way on both
versions.

Maybe it has something to do with the way the signal is generated for
PSK31 (where the mark is done by a switch of tones??), but anyway,
unlike RTTY, it is not a steady power level and hasn't been, at least not
at my QTH.  I did not realise this could be a problem -- but at least I've
been getting out reasonably well, fluxuations notwithstanding.


Larry  Wo0Z

PS, I've run ham radio deluxe, too, a bit, but I can't remember whether
this happens with it as well.


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[Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Monnier
Hello Folks,

I have been looking forward to 1.10.1 for some time. I don't use beta 
versions, only official releases.

I downloaded and installed 1.10.1 and imported the database from 1.8.0.

When I turn on PowerSDR 1.10.1 it looked as if the rig was in transmit with 
HIGH SWR light on and 578 watts. I shut it down right away. I checked 
through all settings on the setup menus of both 1.8.0 and 1.10.1 and they 
are the same. 1.8.0 works fine but 1.10.1 now dose nothing. The receiver 
pumps from a high noise floor to a higher straight line and back, no sound. 
It looks like I was able to calibrate the PA. I get no warnings.

SDR 1000
100 watt
tuner
Delta 44
Dell Optiplex
Windows XP Pro
Pentium 4-3GHz, 1GB Ram
PCI epp/ecp parallel card (port settings are correct)
no USB adapter
no VAC
I can be available for Log Me In remote assistance.

Any advice? Normally a new version might need some tweaking but this doesn't 
seem normal. Thanks in advance.

Mike Monnier
W8BAC 


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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread Tim Ellison
Mike,

It is always best to use a NEW database with a new version of PowerSDR
rather than doing an import of an older one.  Try this first,
recalibrate and see if your problems go away.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Monnier
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:04 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

Hello Folks,

I have been looking forward to 1.10.1 for some time. I don't use beta
versions, only official releases.

I downloaded and installed 1.10.1 and imported the database from 1.8.0.

When I turn on PowerSDR 1.10.1 it looked as if the rig was in transmit
with HIGH SWR light on and 578 watts. I shut it down right away. I
checked through all settings on the setup menus of both 1.8.0 and 1.10.1
and they are the same. 1.8.0 works fine but 1.10.1 now dose nothing. The
receiver pumps from a high noise floor to a higher straight line and
back, no sound. 
It looks like I was able to calibrate the PA. I get no warnings.

SDR 1000
100 watt
tuner
Delta 44
Dell Optiplex
Windows XP Pro
Pentium 4-3GHz, 1GB Ram
PCI epp/ecp parallel card (port settings are correct) no USB adapter no
VAC I can be available for Log Me In remote assistance.

Any advice? Normally a new version might need some tweaking but this
doesn't seem normal. Thanks in advance.

Mike Monnier
W8BAC 


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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Naruta
Try renaming your database (the file that is a .mdb)
and create a new one without importing.  You will
need to recalibrate.


Mike - AA8K



Mike Monnier wrote:
 Hello Folks,
 
 I have been looking forward to 1.10.1 for some time. I don't use beta 
 versions, only official releases.
 
 I downloaded and installed 1.10.1 and imported the database from 1.8.0.
 
 When I turn on PowerSDR 1.10.1 it looked as if the rig was in transmit with 
 HIGH SWR light on and 578 watts. I shut it down right away. I checked 
 through all settings on the setup menus of both 1.8.0 and 1.10.1 and they 
 are the same. 1.8.0 works fine but 1.10.1 now dose nothing. The receiver 
 pumps from a high noise floor to a higher straight line and back, no sound. 
 It looks like I was able to calibrate the PA. I get no warnings.
 
 SDR 1000
 100 watt
 tuner
 Delta 44
 Dell Optiplex
 Windows XP Pro
 Pentium 4-3GHz, 1GB Ram
 PCI epp/ecp parallel card (port settings are correct)
 no USB adapter
 no VAC
 I can be available for Log Me In remote assistance.
 
 Any advice? Normally a new version might need some tweaking but this doesn't 
 seem normal. Thanks in advance.
 
 Mike Monnier
 W8BAC 
 

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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Monnier
Hi Tim, Mel and Mike,

Thanks for the fast response. I simply deleted the database in 1.10.1 and 
went through the wizard setup. So far so good.

I cannot calibrate since power needs to be applied. When standby is pushed 
the rig key's, High VSWR and high output power.

Could it be the new software won't allow communications from/to LPT address 
de98?

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mike Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working


Mike,

It is always best to use a NEW database with a new version of PowerSDR
rather than doing an import of an older one.  Try this first,
recalibrate and see if your problems go away.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Monnier
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:04 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

Hello Folks,

I have been looking forward to 1.10.1 for some time. I don't use beta
versions, only official releases.

I downloaded and installed 1.10.1 and imported the database from 1.8.0.

When I turn on PowerSDR 1.10.1 it looked as if the rig was in transmit
with HIGH SWR light on and 578 watts. I shut it down right away. I
checked through all settings on the setup menus of both 1.8.0 and 1.10.1
and they are the same. 1.8.0 works fine but 1.10.1 now dose nothing. The
receiver pumps from a high noise floor to a higher straight line and
back, no sound.
It looks like I was able to calibrate the PA. I get no warnings.

SDR 1000
100 watt
tuner
Delta 44
Dell Optiplex
Windows XP Pro
Pentium 4-3GHz, 1GB Ram
PCI epp/ecp parallel card (port settings are correct) no USB adapter no
VAC I can be available for Log Me In remote assistance.

Any advice? Normally a new version might need some tweaking but this
doesn't seem normal. Thanks in advance.

Mike Monnier
W8BAC


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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry Flanders
Don't we already have a program to test the competence of the CPU? 
Ignoring the additional load of the firewire transfers, just running 
PowerSDR 1.10.1 demo mode with an I/Q file should give a pretty good 
idea of CPU utilization at the I/Q file's speed - no?

I assume the firewire transfer load is small in comparison to the DSP 
processing. If this is true the above should tell the newbie all he 
needs to know(?)

If SOMEBODY AT FLEX WOULD HURRY  and send my 5000 ;-), I would be 
glad to see how well a minimum machine works and pass it along. I 
have a dual-core 2.8GHz P4 here, but will try my 2.2GHz Sempron first 
(it has firewire already, the dual core does not). Based on what I 
see now with PSDR 1.10.1 on the Sempron, it may run OK. I also have 
an intermediate P4 machine I could test.

Jerry W4UK

At 02:15 PM 8/22/2007, Neal Campbell wrote:
...
I honestly think any modern CPU (Athlon 3800 or greater, Pentium
3gHz, any dual  core) will pass muster

Should we create a configurator (like the wonderful Vista
compatibility program that BS, er MS offers) that gives an opinion?

Neal

On 8/22/07, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   You definitely want to get a multi-core (AMD or Intel)  or a Pentium
   D processor since future versions of PowerSDR will be taking
   advantage of the technology. ...
 
 
  73,
 
  Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread FireBrick
I use a lpt. DCB8

I find that when I goof and get that SWR warning.
Turn off the radio, shut down the software and restart both.

I get that response if I don't remember that I turned the SDR off but start 
the software.


On 8/22/2007 2:47:45 PM, Mike Monnier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi Tim, Mel and Mike,

 Thanks for the fast response. I simply deleted the database in 1.10.1 and

 went through the wizard setup. So far so good.

 I cannot calibrate since power needs to be applied. When standby is pushed

 the rig
 key's, High VSWR and high output power.

 Could it be the new software won't
 allow communications from/to LPT address
 de98?

 Mike
 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mike Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:19 PM
 Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working


 Mike,

 It is always best to use a NEW database with a new version of PowerSDR
 rather than doing an import of an older one.  Try this first,
 recalibrate and see if your problems go away.


 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Monnier
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:04 PM
 To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

 Hello Folks,

 I have been looking f 


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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread Mike Monnier
Tim and all,

It's fixed, Thanks to all that helped. I made a note in notepad to remind me 
next time to make a new database for all new installs.

Apparently, The database transfer told the new software to communicate on 
de98 but that didn't happen. With the new database on 1.10.1 and the lpt 
address set correctly, communications are restored.

Thanks Again,
Mike Monnier
W8BAC


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From: Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mike Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working


Mike,

It is always best to use a NEW database with a new version of PowerSDR
rather than doing an import of an older one.  Try this first,
recalibrate and see if your problems go away.


-Tim

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Monnier
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:04 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

Hello Folks,

I have been looking forward to 1.10.1 for some time. I don't use beta
versions, only official releases.

I downloaded and installed 1.10.1 and imported the database from 1.8.0.

When I turn on PowerSDR 1.10.1 it looked as if the rig was in transmit
with HIGH SWR light on and 578 watts. I shut it down right away. I
checked through all settings on the setup menus of both 1.8.0 and 1.10.1
and they are the same. 1.8.0 works fine but 1.10.1 now dose nothing. The
receiver pumps from a high noise floor to a higher straight line and
back, no sound.
It looks like I was able to calibrate the PA. I get no warnings.

SDR 1000
100 watt
tuner
Delta 44
Dell Optiplex
Windows XP Pro
Pentium 4-3GHz, 1GB Ram
PCI epp/ecp parallel card (port settings are correct) no USB adapter no
VAC I can be available for Log Me In remote assistance.

Any advice? Normally a new version might need some tweaking but this
doesn't seem normal. Thanks in advance.

Mike Monnier
W8BAC


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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Rob Sherwood
I have run the Flex-5000A with 1.91 beta and 1.10.1 software on the following 
PCs.
HP dc7600, Pentium-D, 3.4 GHz, 1 GB RAM.
HP dc7700, Core 2 Duo, 2.13 GHz, 2 GB RAM.
Both worked fine, except for the sluggishness of rapidly slewing the tuning 
frequency.
N9EWO will be testing it starting Thursday with a 1.5 GHz with 512 MB RAM.  
That should be interesting.
I have test data on the 5000A that I can share via e-mail.
I cannot post the data on my web site at this time.
Overall, the lab numbers look good.  
I think cleaning up remaining bugs in the 1.10.x is presently the biggest issue.
It was necessary to delete my database file twice, due to some kind of 
corruption.
I have had a few crashes that required restarting PowerSDR.
It was not necessary to reboot the PC.  
I would like to hear from others if they have had similar problems.
The software automatically recreates the database, of course starting at base 
settings.
When there are a few hundred 5000As in the field, the software will get the 
real test.
Few software packages use multi-core effectively.  
I doubt the software for the 5000A is much different.
I imagine a 3.0 GHz single-core would work just fine, maybe considerably slower.
Probably comes down to RAM.  If RAM starved, swapping to HD would likely really 
kill the program.
Computer hardware is always ahead of software.

Rob Sherwood
NC0B 


 Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/22/2007 1:51 pm 
Don't we already have a program to test the competence of the CPU? 
Ignoring the additional load of the firewire transfers, just running 
PowerSDR 1.10.1 demo mode with an I/Q file should give a pretty good 
idea of CPU utilization at the I/Q file's speed - no?

I assume the firewire transfer load is small in comparison to the DSP 
processing. If this is true the above should tell the newbie all he 
needs to know(?)

If SOMEBODY AT FLEX WOULD HURRY  and send my 5000 ;-), I would be 
glad to see how well a minimum machine works and pass it along. I 
have a dual-core 2.8GHz P4 here, but will try my 2.2GHz Sempron first 
(it has firewire already, the dual core does not). Based on what I 
see now with PSDR 1.10.1 on the Sempron, it may run OK. I also have 
an intermediate P4 machine I could test.

Jerry W4UK

At 02:15 PM 8/22/2007, Neal Campbell wrote:
...
I honestly think any modern CPU (Athlon 3800 or greater, Pentium
3gHz, any dual  core) will pass muster

Should we create a configurator (like the wonderful Vista
compatibility program that BS, er MS offers) that gives an opinion?

Neal

On 8/22/07, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   You definitely want to get a multi-core (AMD or Intel)  or a Pentium
   D processor since future versions of PowerSDR will be taking
   advantage of the technology. ...
 
 
  73,
 
  Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Lyle Johnson
 The reason stated above is just one of many reasons the KB article
 indicates that specifically defining a hardware configuration, whether
 it be in a configurator or a recommended hardware configuration matrix
 is a very subjective thing to quantify.

I respectfully disagree.

Flex knows *exactly* what the required minimum computer configuration is 
to run the present and all future versions of PowerSDR for the next 5 to 
7 years. Instead of being vague, they can plainly state it.

Why do I make this bold assertion?

Consider: the SDR-1000 was an accessory you hung on your computer to 
make it into a radio.  It was nor unreasonable to expect you to throw 
away your computer -- er, upgrade it -- every three years or so.

But the 5000C is a standalone radio product, *not* a PC accessory.  If 
you buy a 5000C, you are buying a radio.  Conceptually, this is no 
different than buying any other radio.  And at almost 5 grand, you 
cannot be reasonably expected to throw it away in three years, nor to 
have to send it to the factory for new hardware to run your software 
defined radio.  There is an implication that, since most hams expect to 
use a new, standalone, $5,000 radio for at least 5 to 7 years, you 
should reasonably expect today's 5000C to run any upgrades to PowerSDR 
for the next 5 to 7 years.

Therefore, if you have a computer that meets the same spec as the 
embedded PC in the 5000C, and if you dedicate it to running your 5000A 
and don't bloat it with your myriad other PC applications, you can 
reasonably expect that computer to fully support the PowerSDR upgrades 
for the next 5 to 7 years.

All we need is a specification of the embedded computer in the 5000C: 
CPU, RAM, Disk, Video, Firewire controller, OS, etc.  This model radio 
is in production according to the website, so the embedded PC spec must 
be known!

Why guess, or speculate?

73,

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Re: [Flexradio] G3UKB new API demo filter GUI

2007-08-22 Thread Bob Cowdery
Thank you for the kind words. It does kind of have a mind of its own now
and one thing seems to follow on naturally from another. One day it
might get published if there is enough interest. If I had a dedicated
month I could really push it forward but it takes me about a year for a
months work! Right now I'm getting pulled in the direction of turning
the guts of my UI into a library of components that sits on top of the
API to raise the level of UI building. Then again I want to complete
jDSP and then again I want to do the porting work for Linux, Mac and
then again put in support for the 5000, HPSDR. 

73 de Bob
   
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 19:58 -0400, Joe - AB1DO wrote:
 I too have been following Bob's progression from time to time and I think it 
 is absolutely spectacular what he is doing (and I only understand a fraction 
 of it!). As far as I can see Bob is and has been continously pushing the 
 envelope in creating a tremendously versatile and flexible software 
 environment for SDRs. I just don't know how you find the time to do it all 
 Bob.
 
 73 de Joe - AB1DO
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ken N9VV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Flex-radio Reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 19:19
 Subject: [Flexradio] G3UKB new API demo filter GUI
 
 
  Bob G3UKB has created a little demo of how to make a simple filter
  selection window using the new API that he has created for his ER-Link
  project:  http://www.g3ukb.co.uk/api.html
 
  good work Bob,
  de ken n9vv
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Jim Lux
At 01:50 PM 8/22/2007, Lyle Johnson wrote:
  The reason stated above is just one of many reasons the KB article
  indicates that specifically defining a hardware configuration, whether
  it be in a configurator or a recommended hardware configuration matrix
  is a very subjective thing to quantify.

I respectfully disagree.

Flex knows *exactly* what the required minimum computer configuration is
to run the present and all future versions of PowerSDR for the next 5 to
7 years. Instead of being vague, they can plainly state it.

Why do I make this bold assertion?

Consider: the SDR-1000 was an accessory you hung on your computer to
make it into a radio.  It was nor unreasonable to expect you to throw
away your computer -- er, upgrade it -- every three years or so.

But the 5000C is a standalone radio product, *not* a PC accessory.  If
you buy a 5000C, you are buying a radio.  Conceptually, this is no
different than buying any other radio.  And at almost 5 grand, you
cannot be reasonably expected to throw it away in three years, nor to
have to send it to the factory for new hardware to run your software
defined radio.  There is an implication that, since most hams expect to
use a new, standalone, $5,000 radio for at least 5 to 7 years, you
should reasonably expect today's 5000C to run any upgrades to PowerSDR
for the next 5 to 7 years.


I'm not sure that assumption is valid.  It does, however, raise some 
interesting questions about support for the embedded PC  (the same 
question come up when you buy a new piece of test gear like a 
spectrum analyzer or oscilloscope with an embedded PC)..

It kind of depends on whether the 5000C (D) are sold as
radio with embedded computer dedicated to radio
or
radio with PC that happens to be in the same box.

Ferinstance..

Will Flex periodically supply a verified set of updates for the OS 
that are known not to interfere with PowerSDR, etc.? Or, would there 
be the expectation that users would run WindowsUpdate periodically.. 
(Good thing it's patch *tuesday*, because that would give you a 
couple days to shake out the problems before the contest on the weekend.)

What happens if you install other software on the embedded 
PC?  What if it breaks the radio (logically, not physically.. I 
assume that the firmware in the 5000A core prevents equipment damage 
no matter what's running on the PC).. Does Flex fix it under 
warranty? (For test equipment, the mfr gives you a bootable CD with a 
clean image, you lose whatever you've done, but at least it's back to 
as shipped state.)

These are interesting sorts of questions that are not unique to Flex, 
and I can see perfectly valid ways to approach it from a variety of 
standpoints.  The test instrument people seem to be converging on 
WinXPEmbedded with an update stream coming from the mfr. The updates 
roll together anything from MS along with the inevitable application 
updates.  I might add that the existence of a ethernet port on such 
computers gives institutional IT security people fits and starts, 
because the equipment mfr focuses on patches and supports for the 
equipment function, but not necessarily for security holes. Anti 
Virus software is a notorious instrument killer for us at work.

Lyle's comments do bring up the interesting question of whether there 
would be a limit to the radio that just keeps getting better.. I 
wouldn't expect to run the current PowerSDR on the PC that I ran 
SDRConsole on 4 years ago.  It would be reasonable (in my mind, but 
perhaps not others) to have several versions of PowerSDR in the 
future, tied to the hardware capability.  Even now, there are 
features of PowerSDR that do not work with my original 3board 
stack.  If I wanted that functionality, I'd be on the hook to buy the 
needed hardware upgrade.  It could be exactly the same for the 
embedded processor.  Maybe, to be able to use some features of 
PowerSDR 3.5, you WOULD need to upgrade the processor.  If it were 
reasonably priced, this might not be a big deal... $500 isn't a huge 
sum compared to the $5000 in the radio in the first place.


Therefore, if you have a computer that meets the same spec as the
embedded PC in the 5000C, and if you dedicate it to running your 5000A
and don't bloat it with your myriad other PC applications, you can
reasonably expect that computer to fully support the PowerSDR upgrades
for the next 5 to 7 years.


Or, more properly, to support anything that a 5000C that you bought 
at the same time would support.


All we need is a specification of the embedded computer in the 5000C:
CPU, RAM, Disk, Video, Firewire controller, OS, etc.  This model radio
is in production according to the website, so the embedded PC spec must
be known!

Why guess, or speculate?


Indeed.. the website is quite vague about what that embedded PC 
actually is other than telling you it has a VGA output and comes with 
a wireless keyboard and mouse.


Jim, W6RMK 



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Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread Samuel Cartinhour
I'd like to thank everyone who has responded so far to my original message.

I did a more thorough search through the archives and found additional
postings that seem to describe the same, or a similar behavior with VAC
and MixW (for example, search on pulsing).

Jim (W4ATK) suggested I try sending a stream of semicolons to get a better
reading on fwd power. I tried this and see a max power of around 25 watts.
There are still fluctuations down to the single digits during this test.

Tim Ellison asked me to try monitoring my output directly on the MixW
waterfall to check for horizontal lines and listen for drop outs. When I
do this, I definitely see horizontal lines that correspond to brief audio
pops. There are also slightly longer dropouts during which the signal on
the waterfall actually disappears (i.e., there is a thin black line across
my signal). During these moments, fwd power is zero.

A few other data points: I am using version 4.04 of VAC. The VAC buffer is
set to 512. The VAC sample rate is 11025. I am identifying as a TS-2000.

As I mentioned before, I am using an Edirol FA-66. The sound card buffer
size is 1024 and the sample rate is 192000.

The computer is a Dell Dimension E520. System properties shows a Dell
Dimension DM061, Pentium D CPU 2.80 GHz, 1.00 GB RAM. With version 1.10.1
of PowerSDR, I rarely see CPU% go over 20%. PowerSDR is set to normal
priority. Changing this setting to high has no effect on the problem.

Finally, Larry (Wo0Z) has also seen this behavior with MixW but has not
noticed any effect on his ability to make PSK31 contacts.

If there are other tests I should run, or if I should try different
settings, please let me know. I will post the results here.

Sam W2SNX





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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working

2007-08-22 Thread Jim
I thought it stated older mdb's than version 1.9 would not work.

73, Jim N9VC

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:04 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.10.1 Not Working


 Hello Folks,

 I have been looking forward to 1.10.1 for some time. I don't use beta
 versions, only official releases.

 I downloaded and installed 1.10.1 and imported the database from 1.8.0.

 When I turn on PowerSDR 1.10.1 it looked as if the rig was in transmit 
 with
 HIGH SWR light on and 578 watts. I shut it down right away. I checked
 through all settings on the setup menus of both 1.8.0 and 1.10.1 and they
 are the same. 1.8.0 works fine but 1.10.1 now dose nothing. The receiver
 pumps from a high noise floor to a higher straight line and back, no 
 sound.
 It looks like I was able to calibrate the PA. I get no warnings.

 SDR 1000
 100 watt
 tuner
 Delta 44
 Dell Optiplex
 Windows XP Pro
 Pentium 4-3GHz, 1GB Ram
 PCI epp/ecp parallel card (port settings are correct)
 no USB adapter
 no VAC
 I can be available for Log Me In remote assistance.

 Any advice? Normally a new version might need some tweaking but this 
 doesn't
 seem normal. Thanks in advance.

 Mike Monnier
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Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread Tim Ellison
Sam,

You have half of the battle won.  You identified the issue.

Now for the resolution.  This is what worked for me running MixW.

1.) Update VAC to 4.07.  There are several fixes that help the buffer
problem you are experiencing.  You should be able to get this from the
place you purchased VAC from originally.

2.) The KB article on how to setup VAC (along with MixW) in the KB was
updated several weeks back to a configuration that is more stable.  That
is by setting the VAC sample rate @ 48 KHz and the MixW sample rate at
something much lower, like 12 KHz.  I recommend using that as a guide
for configuring your system.
http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10218


3.) You may need to increase the VAC buffers.  I use the same buffer
size for both the audio and VAC buffers (in the PowerSDR setup).  In my
case, 1024

-Tim



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Cartinhour
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 6:38 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

I'd like to thank everyone who has responded so far to my original
message.

I did a more thorough search through the archives and found additional
postings that seem to describe the same, or a similar behavior with VAC
and MixW (for example, search on pulsing).

Jim (W4ATK) suggested I try sending a stream of semicolons to get a
better
reading on fwd power. I tried this and see a max power of around 25
watts.
There are still fluctuations down to the single digits during this test.

Tim Ellison asked me to try monitoring my output directly on the MixW
waterfall to check for horizontal lines and listen for drop outs. When I
do this, I definitely see horizontal lines that correspond to brief
audio
pops. There are also slightly longer dropouts during which the signal on
the waterfall actually disappears (i.e., there is a thin black line
across
my signal). During these moments, fwd power is zero.

A few other data points: I am using version 4.04 of VAC. The VAC buffer
is
set to 512. The VAC sample rate is 11025. I am identifying as a TS-2000.

As I mentioned before, I am using an Edirol FA-66. The sound card buffer
size is 1024 and the sample rate is 192000.

The computer is a Dell Dimension E520. System properties shows a Dell
Dimension DM061, Pentium D CPU 2.80 GHz, 1.00 GB RAM. With version
1.10.1
of PowerSDR, I rarely see CPU% go over 20%. PowerSDR is set to normal
priority. Changing this setting to high has no effect on the problem.

Finally, Larry (Wo0Z) has also seen this behavior with MixW but has not
noticed any effect on his ability to make PSK31 contacts.

If there are other tests I should run, or if I should try different
settings, please let me know. I will post the results here.

Sam W2SNX





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Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread lwloen
 Finally, Larry (Wo0Z) has also seen this behavior with MixW but has not
 noticed any effect on his ability to make PSK31 contacts.


Well, I have not measured it as carefully as you have (and I haven't run
RTTY or PSK31 for several months now).

I do notice that PSK31 has more fluxuation than RTTY, and my external
power meter really jumps around to the point that I could talk myself into
having identical symptoms.  But, yours may well be more extreme than mine.

Your report of seeing/hearing audio pops is definitely nothing I ever
saw on my machine.  I think I would have noticed something like that.  On
RTTY, it's fairly steady and on PSK, the power needle moves around, but I
think I'd notice audio pops sooner or later.

Certainly, whatever is going on with my machine hasn't interfered with my
usage of either RTTY or PSK31.

Whatever my fluxuations are, it all seems normal to me.  And, no pops.


Larry Wo0Z



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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Rob Sherwood wrote:

 Probably comes down to RAM.  If RAM starved, swapping to HD would likely 
 really kill the program.

Swapping is fatal for any pseudo-realtime program. Experience with the 
headless version of the SDR code (just DSP, no console) shows pretty 
conclusively that it's the display and graphics that are the killers, 
not the pure radio functionality.

The easiest way to prevent swapping is to prune the OS and ancillary 
services.

The easiest way to gain CPU efficiency is to clean up the panadapter -- 
stop computing a 4X oversampled spectrum -- and cut down on the number 
of idle controls showing at all times.

 Computer hardware is always ahead of software.

Except when the hardware is tailored to the software, like the Lisp 
Machines, or Crays ;-)

73
Frank
AB2KT


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Re: [Flexradio] Power fluctuation when using PSK31

2007-08-22 Thread Samuel Cartinhour
Following Tim's suggestions, I modified the VAC sample rate to 48 KHz and
the MixW sample to 12 KHz. I also used the VAC settings shown in the
revised KB article on how to setup the VAC software. Audio and VAC buffers
(in the PowerSDR setup) are now both set to 1024. I haven't yet upgraded
VAC from 4.04 to 4.07; I'll take care of that tomorrow.

I see an immediate, dramatic improvement in my signal on the waterfall. I
can still hear a few pops in my headphones but the horizontal lines have
completely disappeared. There are no longer any black bars where power
goes to zero. The idle signal is a clean pair of parallel lines.

My power still varies but I'm guessing this is not a serious problem, or
maybe is completely normal (?) (whereas the popping and dropouts were
not). BTW, I incorrectly summarized Larry's observations in my last
posting. He sees the power fluctuations but not the popping and dropouts.

Sam W2SNX






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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Lyle Johnson
 Computer hardware is always ahead of software.
 
 Except when the hardware is tailored to the software, like the Lisp 
 Machines, or Crays ;-)

Or the Harris RTX-2000 series...

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Re: [Flexradio] more on CPU speeds, etc.

2007-08-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Lyle Johnson wrote:

 Or the Harris RTX-2000 series...

Good point, and it brings to mind the supreme example, the Burroughs B5000!

73
Frank
AB2KT


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[Flexradio] Audio Streaming

2007-08-22 Thread Craig Monsen
Has anyone had any experience with streaming the audio of the SDR1000 over a
network?

I would like to have this capability, and would be interested in successful
setups either using Windows or Linux based tools.

Craig, KC2LFI
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Re: [Flexradio] Audio Streaming

2007-08-22 Thread Ken N9VV
http://www.svenstedt.se/ip-sound/ (Winblows)
others may have solutions that are multi-platform

Skype might prove unsatisfactory because you have to connect to their 
server network with it's associated latency.

de ken n9vv

Craig Monsen wrote:
 Has anyone had any experience with streaming the audio of the SDR1000 over a
 network?
 
 I would like to have this capability, and would be interested in successful
 setups either using Windows or Linux based tools.
 
 Craig, KC2LFI

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[Flexradio] SVN 1467 Chopyy CW

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Brougham
Hi Folks,

I'm having a problem with sending CW on the SDR-1000/FA-66  with SVN 
1467. They paddle is attached directly to the rig. All is OK with 
release 1.8.0, but in 1467 when I send two dahs it will come out as dit 
dah. Any ideas? My setup is via the KB Howto for both versions. I can't 
quite puzzle this out as it seemed to work OK in another beta release.

Thanks for any help!

-- 
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[Flexradio] SVN ALL OK!

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Brougham
Sorry folks it was all me. I downloaded the latest 1.10.1 release  (not 
the SVN)  and it's all good. Even better than 1.8.0. PC issue I think.

Sorry for the double post too (don't why that happened either!!).

-- 
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