[Flexradio] audio punch

2008-01-07 Thread FireBrick
I' tweaked my equalizer settings while calling TO5JF (St. Barts).

The output of my MFJ DVK was too low compaired to using the Heil ProSet mic.
Duh, read the instructions and adjusted output pot to equal ProSet mic.

Got the St. Barts 2 calls later.

I found just the slightest uptic on 500  2K setting and 1.5 marks on 1K 
setting worked and sounded well. Comp and Cpdr setting 1  2 respectively.



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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR won't start after Delta 44 upgrade to5.10.00.5065

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Wachsmann
It sounds like they changed their interface in the new driver.  For now, I
would reinstall the older driver.  This may be one of those if it ain't
broke, don't fix it kind of things.  The older driver has served well for
some time.  I suspect there may be Vista related reasons to upgrade though.
We'll look into this.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Naruta
 Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:35 PM
 To: FlexRadio
 Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR won't start after Delta 44 upgrade
 to5.10.00.5065
 
 I upgraded my Windows XP Pro to the latest
 M-Audio Delta 44 driver,
 Delta_V32_5.10.00.5065.exe
 
 Now, when I start PowerSDR for my SDR-1000, I get:
 
 Unable to load DLL (DELTAPNL.DLL)
 
 Windows system sounds play fine through the
 Delta 44 and and D44 control panel comes up fine.
 
 Do I have to give up and run the old driver?
 
 Will Windows allow me to install an older driver?
 
 
 Mike - AA8K
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR won't start after Delta 44 upgrade to5.10.00.5065

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Naruta
Thanks Eric.  I went back to M-Audio 5.10.0.5051
and PowerSDR talks to the SDR-1000 again (SVN 1875).
Even though I removed the old driver, the latest
control console still starts up along with the
previous one.  I hate Windows.

What would be the latest M-Audio Delta-44 driver
that works with PowerSDR?


I upgraded the Delta-44 driver to try to eliminate
one cause to diagnose my sudden reboots.  Ever
since I installed VAC, my PC randomly boots
without warning.


Mike - AA8K


Eric Wachsmann wrote:
 It sounds like they changed their interface in the new driver.  For now, I
 would reinstall the older driver.  This may be one of those if it ain't
 broke, don't fix it kind of things.  The older driver has served well for
 some time.  I suspect there may be Vista related reasons to upgrade though.
 We'll look into this.
 
 

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Re: [Flexradio] audio punch (SVN 1879) - K6JCA Console

2008-01-07 Thread Edwin Marzan

I wrote here a few months ago concerning the fact that I was unable to drive 
the audio hard enough on my SDR1000 to see the meters kick up on my power 
supply and watt meter. Using Comp  Cpdr settings at 2 made a considerable 
difference. I also noticed John (W5GI)mention the DX button on the console. 
Holy smokes, what a difference!! I spoke to a gent in Cuba last night on 
80meters and was able to reach him with just one call with the DX button 
engaged. And now those meters are really kicking!! I don't believe this to be a 
coincidence. Thanks Flex, for listening to your customers. You folks always 
come through!
 
Thanks Jeff for the new features on the console. I heard a fellow ham using 
your simplified recorder function yesterday and the folks on the air were 
really enjoying it. I understand why the backlit old style meter is gone. 
Hopefully it will be easier to implement when the new architecture is realized.
Edwin MarzanAB2VW From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: 
Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:32:03 -0600 Subject: [Flexradio] audio punch  I' tweaked 
my equalizer settings while calling TO5JF (St. Barts).  The output of my MFJ 
DVK was too low compaired to using the Heil ProSet mic. Duh, read the 
instructions and adjusted output pot to equal ProSet mic.  Got the St. Barts 
2 calls later.  I found just the slightest uptic on 500  2K setting and 1.5 
marks on 1K  setting worked and sounded well. Comp and Cpdr setting 1  2 
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Re: [Flexradio] audio punch (SVN 1879) - K6JCA Console

2008-01-07 Thread Thompson_Peter
I got some audio feedback data while in a QSO this weekend.  This was
relatively local stuff on 75m in the evening but what I heard seems to
be in agreement with the described functionality of the new DX button.  

Basically, when the DX button is engaged, there is considerable punch,
providing a nice boost for working the DX; for casual rag chewing as was
the case in this QSO, the additional boost was not needed and the audio
sounded more natural without DX engaged, which is as I would have
expected.

All in all, sounds like a nice new feature which I hope to try out soon
under DX conditions.

73, Pete N3EVL

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 radio.biz] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:08 PM
 To: FireBrick; FlexRadio List
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] audio punch (SVN 1879) - K6JCA Console
 
 
 I wrote here a few months ago concerning the fact that I was unable to
 drive the audio hard enough on my SDR1000 to see the meters kick up on
 my power supply and watt meter. Using Comp  Cpdr settings at 2 made a
 considerable difference. I also noticed John (W5GI)mention the DX
 button on the console. Holy smokes, what a difference!! I spoke to a
 gent in Cuba last night on 80meters and was able to reach him with
just
 one call with the DX button engaged. And now those meters are really
 kicking!! I don't believe this to be a coincidence. Thanks Flex, for
 listening to your customers. You folks always come through!
 

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Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR won't start after Delta 44 upgrade to5.10.00.5065

2008-01-07 Thread Dudley Hurry
Mike,

On your intermittent reboots,  look for a defective powersupply or a 
cooling fan failing on you.50 -50 on which is causing the 
problem,  just about anything else will leave some information on the 
failure in Event Viewer log.

73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ


At 12:00 PM 1/7/2008, Mike Naruta wrote:
Thanks Eric.  I went back to M-Audio 5.10.0.5051
and PowerSDR talks to the SDR-1000 again (SVN 1875).
Even though I removed the old driver, the latest
control console still starts up along with the
previous one.  I hate Windows.

What would be the latest M-Audio Delta-44 driver
that works with PowerSDR?


I upgraded the Delta-44 driver to try to eliminate
one cause to diagnose my sudden reboots.  Ever
since I installed VAC, my PC randomly boots
without warning.


Mike - AA8K


Eric Wachsmann wrote:
  It sounds like they changed their interface in the new driver.  For now, I
  would reinstall the older driver.  This may be one of those if it ain't
  broke, don't fix it kind of things.  The older driver has served well for
  some time.  I suspect there may be Vista related reasons to upgrade though.
  We'll look into this.
 
 

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[Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Amos
Alan,

[begin rant]

I've had a similar question, but phrased it less delicately: Is it just me or 
is the requirement to build a new 
database just a bad design decision that doesn't improve with age?  

In a previous incarnation as a software developer, I would not have been able 
to foist off such a design decision on my 
boss much less a consumer products customer (it would never have got past a 
design review.)  I can hear his first 
question: What do you mean you've designed it so that the customer has to save 
the database and use a third-party 
utility to re-import settings?  I can think of 5 different ways to do this 
better [he would list them while beating me 
with a rolled up copy of the design spec...]  Now, go back and re-design this 
piece!  

So, now that I'm no longer a developer but rather an unruly customer, I get to 
ask questions like this!  In this case, 
however, it's one of those things that seems so obvious, I am embarassed to 
even ASK.

I can understand it with beta releases -- so I just rebuild it each time and 
don't complain (much) because beta users 
got no right to complain about nothin'.  But really, for production versions of 
consumer software. Geez, as da kids 
would say, WTF? (kidspeak for That is a bad idea.)

[end rant]

Mark


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:15 PM
To: Alan NV8A; Flex Group
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio Punch

No, it is not a requirement to create a new DB for every SVN that contains a 
PowerSDR change.  See the KB article about 
when a new DB should be considered.

http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10394


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:02 PM
To: Flex Group
Subject: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio Punch

Are we supposed to start with a new database for every new SVN, or
simply keep the database used with SVN versions separate from that used
with the release version? It'll be a pain changing antenna, CAT, VAC and
other settings for every new SVN I download.

73

Alan NV8A


On 01/05/08 01:57 pm John P Basilotto W5GI wrote:

 One thing I left out, with the changes-- in SVN versions it is recommended
 you start with a new database. I recommend trying SVN 1875.



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[Flexradio] MD-100 mic and 5000A

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Walsh
Hi,

Is anyone using a Yaesu MD-100 mic with their 5000?  If so, did it plug
right in with no modifications required and how does it sound?

Thanks,

Mike - ke5akl

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[Flexradio] Straight key/5000A problem resolved

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Walsh
Hi,

Awhile ago I posted saying that none of my straight keys or my
external key worked reliably when plugged into the key input on the
back of the 5000A. This is resolved now so thought I'd post the cause
and solution.

The problem was caused by a combination of wiring and software.

Table 2 in the manual seems to indicate that both the ring and tip
should be connected to one side of a straight key and the sleeve to
the other.  This is not correct and wiring this way was the biggest
cause of the problem.  Apparently transitions on ring and tip cause
separate interrupts and a simultaneous transition on both, as occurs
when both are wired, generates two interrupts that tend to step on
each other.  After wiring only the tip and sleeve while leaving the
ring unwired, my straight keys and external keyer worked much better.
However, at the time, I was running an older version of PowerSDR from
the CD that came with the 5000 (version 1.3.10).  That version still
had fairly frequent bobbles even with the new plug wiring.  Switching
to the latest SVN cleared things up pretty much completely and at this
time both straight keys and my external keyer are working fine.

73,

Mike - ke5akl

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[Flexradio] Discrepancy between meters

2008-01-07 Thread Alex Gonzalez
Has anybody noticed a substantial difference in RX signal between the dbm
meter readout and the PanAdapter scale while receiving white noise?

 

73's de Alex

 

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[Flexradio] Fw: [CommCat] New QSXer and Activity Map Page

2008-01-07 Thread KQ8RP
Here is a awesome freeware program.  This can easily show you where other 
Flexers are operating.

Scott Gordon
http://www.kq8rp.us

- Original Message - 
From: Howard Nurse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CommCat List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:23 PM
Subject: [CommCat] New QSXer and Activity Map Page


 Hi All--

 As promised, QSXer 1.1 (freeware) is ready for download.  I will make
 announcements outside this mail reflector in the next day or so, but I
 wanted to let CommCat owners know first.

 This new version creates a web page that includes personal information, an
 S-meter with 1-minute updating, a biography panel, and an e-mail form.
 QSXer is now compatible with CommCat, TRX Manager, Ham Radio Deluxe, 
 Logic,
 and HAM-LOG.  Download QSXer 1.1 from:

 http://www.commcat.com/files/QSXerSetup11.exe

 If you have installed QSXer version 1, please uninstall it before 
 installing
 the new one.  I've gone to a completely new installation program (pretty
 slick), and the new Installer needs a clean start.

 I've combined the Live and QSXer Activity Maps into one page.  CommCatLive
 users are shown with asterisks after their calls, and in their map pins.
 Active stations are shown on the map, and in the Active list.  The QRT 
 list
 shows stations that have been active within the past 24 hours but not 
 within
 the last fifteen minutes.

 The Activity Map also has a new search box.  Put any call in the box, 
 click
 Find Call, and open a QSXer page for that call.  If the call is not
 registered, there is an inviation to download QSXer.

 Take a look at the new map:

 http://MyQSX.net

 Click the Activity Map tab.

 QSXer is a great way to introduce the CommCat family to folks using other
 programs.  Please help spread the word.

 73,

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Re: [Flexradio] Discrepancy between meters

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Walsh
Hi Alex,

Yes - in fact I was going to post this same question.  My S-meter
always seems to be 20 dB or more above the Panadapter display.

73,

Mike - ke5akl

Has anybody noticed a substantial difference in RX signal between the dbm
meter readout and the PanAdapter scale while receiving white noise?

73's de Alex

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Re: [Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
At 03:03 PM 1/7/2008, Mark Amos wrote:
Alan,

[begin rant]

I've had a similar question, but phrased it less delicately: Is it 
just me or is the requirement to build a new database just a bad 
design decision that doesn't improve with age?

In a previous incarnation as a software developer, I would not have 
been able to foist off such a design decision on my boss much less a 
consumer products customer (it would never have got past a design 
review.)  I can hear his first question: What do you mean you've 
designed it so that the customer has to save the database and use a 
third-party utility to re-import settings?  I can think of 5 
different ways to do this better [he would list them while beating 
me with a rolled up copy of the design spec...]  Now, go back and 
re-design this piece!

So, now that I'm no longer a developer but rather an unruly 
customer, I get to ask questions like this!  In this case, however, 
it's one of those things that seems so obvious, I am embarassed to even ASK.

I can understand it with beta releases -- so I just rebuild it each 
time and don't complain (much) because beta users got no right to 
complain about nothin'.  But really, for production versions of 
consumer software. Geez, as da kids would say, WTF? (kidspeak for 
That is a bad idea.)

[end rant]

Production versions of PowerSDR are fairly infrequent 
(notwithstanding that lots of folks, on this list anyway, do retrieve 
frequent alpha releases). (Oddly, I couldn't find a list of official 
releases, but my gut feel is that they're about every six months to a 
year apart.)

I would imagine that the logic behind not fixing it runs something 
along the lines of:

We have 2.0 architecture coming out soon, and that will have a 
totally different database mechanism, since it won't be using MS 
Access as the underlying engine. Why deal with migrating 1.x to 
1.1+x, now, since we'll have to write some sort of utility to migrate 
from 1.x database to 2.x database anyway.

Not such a bad decision, at that time. Put the resources towards the 
new version, rather than the legacy.


The fact that the transition is pushed out some 3 years(*) or more 
for a variety of reasons just makes it seem like a terrible decision 
in retrospect.  PowerSDR is by no means unique this way.

(*)Yep, it really has been more than 3 years in the making.  A couple 
comments from the mailing list archives (which only goes back to May 
2005.. before that it would be the forums):

This will come with the new architecture
that is currently being revised for the 1.5 Beta
branch of the source.
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 30 Aug 2005, 16:35

  ..As you may have followed in the
discussions this week, we are in the process of restructuring the
current code in the interest of enabling people like yourself to
contribute more easily. ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 1 Sep 2005, 14:21


Hey Eric,
Has it really been 4 years?  Time flies, etc.



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Re: [Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Mark Amos
Jim,

Yes, I agree that this was a reasonable trade as long as this design decision 
doesn't get carried forward to the new 
product.  (I have to plead ignorance regarding how the new design will 
implement the storage of user settings.)

Though I am generally pessimistic about fixes that are promised in next 
release of most software products, so far my 
pessimism has proven unwarranted for most Flex software releases.  

Mark

At 03:03 PM 1/7/2008, Mark Amos wrote:
Alan,

[begin rant]

I've had a similar question, but phrased it less delicately: Is it 
just me or is the requirement to build a new database just a bad design 
decision that doesn't improve with age?

In a previous incarnation as a software developer, I would not have 
been able to foist off such a design decision on my boss much less a 
consumer products customer (it would never have got past a design
review.)  I can hear his first question: What do you mean you've 
designed it so that the customer has to save the database and use a 
third-party utility to re-import settings?  I can think of 5 different 
ways to do this better [he would list them while beating me with a 
rolled up copy of the design spec...]  Now, go back and re-design this 
piece!

So, now that I'm no longer a developer but rather an unruly customer, I 
get to ask questions like this!  In this case, however, it's one of 
those things that seems so obvious, I am embarassed to even ASK.

I can understand it with beta releases -- so I just rebuild it each 
time and don't complain (much) because beta users got no right to 
complain about nothin'.  But really, for production versions of 
consumer software. Geez, as da kids would say, WTF? (kidspeak for That 
is a bad idea.)

[end rant]

Production versions of PowerSDR are fairly infrequent (notwithstanding that 
lots of folks, on this list anyway, do 
retrieve frequent alpha releases). (Oddly, I couldn't find a list of official 
releases, but my gut feel is that they're 
about every six months to a year apart.)

I would imagine that the logic behind not fixing it runs something along the 
lines of:

We have 2.0 architecture coming out soon, and that will have a totally 
different database mechanism, since it won't be 
using MS Access as the underlying engine. Why deal with migrating 1.x to 1.1+x, 
now, since we'll have to write some 
sort of utility to migrate from 1.x database to 2.x database anyway.

Not such a bad decision, at that time. Put the resources towards the new 
version, rather than the legacy.


The fact that the transition is pushed out some 3 years(*) or more 
for a variety of reasons just makes it seem like a terrible decision 
in retrospect.  PowerSDR is by no means unique this way.

(*)Yep, it really has been more than 3 years in the making.  A couple 
comments from the mailing list archives (which only goes back to May 
2005.. before that it would be the forums):

This will come with the new architecture
that is currently being revised for the 1.5 Beta
branch of the source.
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 30 Aug 2005, 16:35

  ..As you may have followed in the
discussions this week, we are in the process of restructuring the
current code in the interest of enabling people like yourself to
contribute more easily. ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 1 Sep 2005, 14:21


Hey Eric,
Has it really been 4 years?  Time flies, etc.





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Re: [Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Frank Brickle
On Jan 7, 2008 8:04 PM, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hey Eric,
 Has it really been 4 years?  Time flies, etc.


Just think of how much you could have improved PowerSDR in that time had you
spent it coding rather than bitching and sniping, Jim.

Therewith I also am gone from this list.

73
Frank
AB2KT
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Re: [Flexradio] Discrepancy between meters

2008-01-07 Thread n3evl
I think this question came up before and if I remember correctly it is 
because the s-meter reading relates only to the signal strength (average 
power?) within the filter passband whereas the level shown in the panadapter 
window is averaged across the entire sampled bandwidth.  This is by design. 
No doubt our resident gurus can express it more clearly.

Pete, N3EVL

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From: Mike Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Discrepancy between meters


 Hi Alex,

 Yes - in fact I was going to post this same question.  My S-meter
 always seems to be 20 dB or more above the Panadapter display.

 73,

 Mike - ke5akl

Has anybody noticed a substantial difference in RX signal between the dbm
meter readout and the PanAdapter scale while receiving white noise?

73's de Alex

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[Flexradio] Re discrepancy between meters

2008-01-07 Thread Jerry
The meter indicates the signal level in the selected bandwidth. The
panadapter shows the noise within the FFT bins. The later is about 11 Hz
for a 48 kHz sample rate.

It's not rocket science, but it is real. Change your bandwidth and look 
at
the change in noise amplitude on the meter.

73 de Jerry NO2T

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Re: [Flexradio] Re discrepancy between meters

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Dennison
Quite so Jerry,

In fact, with my quick check, the difference in signal strength between
that measured in the 25hz CW filter and the noise level in the panadapter
is in the noise.

Had thought perhaps the intent was to use a central FFT bin for the
meter.   Just for consistency.  

Thanks for the explanation... always science works!

vy 73's
Rob
AB7CF



On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:15:43 -0500 Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The meter indicates the signal level in the selected 
 bandwidth. The
 panadapter shows the noise within the FFT bins. The later is about 
 11 Hz
 for a 48 kHz sample rate.
 
 It's not rocket science, but it is real. Change your 
 bandwidth and look at
 the change in noise amplitude on the meter.
 
 73 de Jerry NO2T
 
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Re: [Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Dudley Hurry
Mark,

No it's not a requirement to generate a new database, but there are 
times that additional information needs to be stored in the local 
database,  which changes the overall relationship.   They do try to 
hold down the changes, but particularly between major changes,  many 
things get added (like the 5000, second receiver, new DSP code, more 
features, etc)  so the database gets rearranged..   You might notice 
some things not wroking correctly, or not at all..

Another time the DB needs to be rebuilt is when you might have an 
unexplained shutdown or even a loss of power might rearrange the 
Access DB for you..



73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ


At 05:03 PM 1/7/2008, Mark Amos wrote:
Alan,

[begin rant]

I've had a similar question, but phrased it less delicately: Is it 
just me or is the requirement to build a new
database just a bad design decision that doesn't improve with age?

In a previous incarnation as a software developer, I would not have 
been able to foist off such a design decision on my
boss much less a consumer products customer (it would never have got 
past a design review.)  I can hear his first
question: What do you mean you've designed it so that the customer 
has to save the database and use a third-party
utility to re-import settings?  I can think of 5 different ways to 
do this better [he would list them while beating me
with a rolled up copy of the design spec...]  Now, go back and 
re-design this piece!

So, now that I'm no longer a developer but rather an unruly 
customer, I get to ask questions like this!  In this case,
however, it's one of those things that seems so obvious, I am 
embarassed to even ASK.

I can understand it with beta releases -- so I just rebuild it each 
time and don't complain (much) because beta users
got no right to complain about nothin'.  But really, for production 
versions of consumer software. Geez, as da kids
would say, WTF? (kidspeak for That is a bad idea.)

[end rant]

Mark


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:15 PM
To: Alan NV8A; Flex Group
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio Punch

No, it is not a requirement to create a new DB for every SVN that 
contains a PowerSDR change.  See the KB article about
when a new DB should be considered.

http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10394


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:02 PM
To: Flex Group
Subject: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio Punch

Are we supposed to start with a new database for every new SVN, or
simply keep the database used with SVN versions separate from that used
with the release version? It'll be a pain changing antenna, CAT, VAC and
other settings for every new SVN I download.

73

Alan NV8A


On 01/05/08 01:57 pm John P Basilotto W5GI wrote:

  One thing I left out, with the changes-- in SVN versions it is recommended
  you start with a new database. I recommend trying SVN 1875.



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Re: [Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Dennison
For sure Chuck,

I have a hard time remembering that a release such as v1.10.2 is a beta
and a SVN such as 1875 is an alpha that we are privileged to help check
out.   Our comments on the SVN code should be restricted to constructive
comments to an open source programmer checking out his code!

I think it's amazing that those incremental SVN releases are so good we
forget they're alphas!  

All our flexRadio programmers need our heart felt thanks!   I am
certainly guilty of slipping over the edge some times.  They are
terrific.

vy 73's
Rob
AB7CF



 
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:10:46 -0600 Chuck Mayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Bitching, Moaning, Ranting and Sniping with regards to Alpha Test 
 Software seems to be counterproductive.  Maybe we should all 
 periodically remind ourselves that we are very fortunate that FRS 
 has 
 given us access to the SVN's and associated alpha updates.  How many 
 
 other for-profit companies can you name that have so freely shared 
 with their customers?
 
 If we can not handle rebuilding the database once in a while, 
 because 
 it is structurally modified to provide additional features, etc., 
 then perhaps we should just  operate with the Releases and maybe 
 even 
 Beta-releases.
 
 73,
 Chuck - AA5J
 
 
 At 10:21 PM 1/7/2008, Dudley Hurry wrote:
 Mark,
 
 No it's not a requirement to generate a new database, but there 
 are
 times that additional information needs to be stored in the local
 database,  which changes the overall relationship.   They do try 
 to
 hold down the changes, but particularly between major changes,  
 many
 things get added (like the 5000, second receiver, new DSP code, 
 more
 features, etc)  so the database gets rearranged..   You might 
 notice
 some things not wroking correctly, or not at all..
 
 Another time the DB needs to be rebuilt is when you might have an
 unexplained shutdown or even a loss of power might rearrange the
 Access DB for you..
 
 
 
 73,
 Dudley
 WA5QPZ
 
 
 At 05:03 PM 1/7/2008, Mark Amos wrote:
  Alan,
  
  [begin rant]
  
  I've had a similar question, but phrased it less delicately: Is 
 it
  just me or is the requirement to build a new
  database just a bad design decision that doesn't improve with 
 age?
  
  In a previous incarnation as a software developer, I would not 
 have
  been able to foist off such a design decision on my
  boss much less a consumer products customer (it would never have 
 got
  past a design review.)  I can hear his first
  question: What do you mean you've designed it so that the 
 customer
  has to save the database and use a third-party
  utility to re-import settings?  I can think of 5 different ways 
 to
  do this better [he would list them while beating me
  with a rolled up copy of the design spec...]  Now, go back and
  re-design this piece!
  
  So, now that I'm no longer a developer but rather an unruly
  customer, I get to ask questions like this!  In this case,
  however, it's one of those things that seems so obvious, I am
  embarassed to even ASK.
  
  I can understand it with beta releases -- so I just rebuild it 
 each
  time and don't complain (much) because beta users
  got no right to complain about nothin'.  But really, for 
 production
  versions of consumer software. Geez, as da kids
  would say, WTF? (kidspeak for That is a bad idea.)
  
  [end rant]
  
  Mark
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim 
 Ellison
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:15 PM
  To: Alan NV8A; Flex Group
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio 
 Punch
  
  No, it is not a requirement to create a new DB for every SVN 
 that
  contains a PowerSDR change.  See the KB article about
  when a new DB should be considered.
  
  http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10394
  
  
  -Tim
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:02 PM
  To: Flex Group
  Subject: [Flexradio] SVNs and new database. Was: SSB Tx Audio 
 Punch
  
  Are we supposed to start with a new database for every new SVN, 
 or
  simply keep the database used with SVN versions separate from 
 that used
  with the release version? It'll be a pain changing antenna, CAT, 
 VAC and
  other settings for every new SVN I download.
  
  73
  
  Alan NV8A
  
  
  On 01/05/08 01:57 pm John P Basilotto W5GI wrote:
  
One thing I left out, with the changes-- in SVN versions it is 
 
  recommended
you start with a new database. I recommend trying SVN 1875.
  
  
  
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Re: [Flexradio] SVN's and new database.

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Lux
Quoting Frank Brickle [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Mon 07 Jan 2008 05:45:33 PM PST:

 On Jan 7, 2008 8:04 PM, Jim Lux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hey Eric,
 Has it really been 4 years?  Time flies, etc.


 Just think of how much you could have improved PowerSDR in that time had you
 spent it coding rather than bitching and sniping, Jim.

I think you misinterpret my comment.

Eric W. started with Flex-Radio 4 years ago this month, I think...Just  
as Flex was starting to transform into a real company with real  
fulltime staff and so forth.  If he's like most of us, I suspect that  
back in 2004, he never thought we would be where we are today. Heck,  
he may not have even thought that he would still be working at Flex  
(or that it would be in business?).. Certainly, that's true for lots  
of folks in their first job out of college.

Sure, nothing works like planned, but that doesn't mean that it's not  
a fun and interesting ride on the way.  I think that Flex (and you)  
have done a great job overall. Certainly, the Flex product line is an  
industry leader, now, in a relatively short time.. Probably not what  
most thought would happen when Gerald's first articles came out in  
QEX, what? 5-6 years ago?

Yep, things might not go like the public statements and wishes say  
they will, but, OTOH, I think that folks are more than willing to cut  
Flex a huge amount of slack on missing their predictions, given the  
outstanding results that have been produced.  Sure, we'd love to have  
seen the new architecture implemented sooner rather than later, but,  
I'm sure that you'll be in agreement that when you're supporting  
hundreds of customers, fighting the fire in the wood building today  
sometimes takes precedence over building the fireproof concrete  
building of tomorrow. (Or some such metaphor.  it's late..)


Jim, W6RMK



As far as bitching and sniping.. ad hominem is never pretty, so we'll  
leave it there.






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[Flexradio] carrier SVN 1886

2008-01-07 Thread hartfuss
Hi,
bandwise carrier suppression routine now works fine with recent SVN 
1886. I had a problem on 80m with the carrier only about 30dB below PEP. 
Later I found the same on 15 and 10m. Running HTRX-Test, Carrier, Check 
All solved the problem. All bands are again within specifications. The 
questions remains why was the readjustment necessary, components aging? 
The radio was built in November.
73s, Hans, DL2MDQ.



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