Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 cat control to MixW
I use VSP manager now. The interface is easier and the configuration is faster, but I don't see any real difference in operation between VCom, Com0com, and VSP manager. However, thanks to VSP Manager's GUI, I was able to find why a pair of virtual COM ports stopped working. At some point I installed Blackbery Desktop Manager for my Blackberry. It silently stole COM ports 5 and 6 for itself. These virtual pairs had to be moved because of this. KA1GEU Chris -Original Message- From: Tim Ellison [mailto:telli...@itsco.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:50 PM To: Chris seeber; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Cc: w...@rjharris.com Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 cat control to MixW This is why you should start using VSP Manager. You can't inadvertently use a physical com port when defining your port pairs. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Chris seeber Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:39 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Cc: w...@rjharris.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 cat control to MixW RJ, This might be obvious, but does your new computer have physical COM ports that use the same COM ports that you defined in N8VBvCom? I find myself falling into these obvious traps way too often. KA1GEU Chris -Original Message- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:19:22 -0500 From: RJ Harris - W3HP w...@rjharris.com Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 cat control to MixW To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Message-ID: 7846a2088ef341fea6f75676c7ac0...@flexradio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Friends, Recently I was forced to move my Flex SDR-1000 to another PC. The radio is working perfectly, except for cat control, or lack of. VAC is functional, but for the life of me cannot get the cat to work. I have been through the drill numerous times. I am using the N8VBvCom driver. It appears to be installed properly. I have followed the checklist to the letter. Have even tried using other com port pairs. I even duplicated every setting from old PC to new, nothing has worked. Again, Flex and MixW are configured according to the directions.. and I have played with numerous alternatives. I know that this is a matter of one simple setting, but I'm pulling my hair our. Any help is greatly appreciated. RJ Harris w...@rjharris.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to telli...@itsco.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
FWIW as a semi-retired HF dx contester (but you never really get it out of your system) I think I can comment further on SO2R concepts. basic idea is that transmit time is 'wasted'..you should be listening on another band while you're transmitting. you transmit continuously, but not simultaneously ( 'single-multi' we used to call it, which is 'cheating' ) on two bands that you think should produce QSO's. all to produce more QSO's and multipliers and a higher score. this requires a 'canned' transmit message, since most guys (??) cant talk and listen at the same time. I think Cindy can, but sometimesnot so sure the rx is working, ha! the switching back and forth can be automated. on cw, with additional feeds from skimmer and cluster spots, it can get interesting. new records are being set, in 'single-op assisted'...so it must work...on ssb a voice keyer would be needed. and skimmer doesnt work on ssb (yet ?) you need separate antennas, isolated enough that you dont de-sense the listening freq with the tx rf, especially with kw power. aggresive band pass filtering of the tx signal also helps, which is tricky at kw levels... a hyperactive personality, not uncommon among contesters, also helps. personally, i have not tried it yet...but i like Neil's idea of a pair of f3k's.. merry christmas from longview texas, w5xz, dan --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 4:21 AM I wrote a blog entry on how my station is set up for SO2R like operation. I don't run much contesting but I do run on 2 bands for DXing quite often which is the equivalent It's still a work in progress and there are a few refinements that I would like to see but this article gives a pretty good idea what a stock F5K plus RX2 can do http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2009/12/so2r.html 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to w...@att.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] (no subject)
I wrote a second part to the SO2R experience describing some of the aspects of frequency management in a triplex radio system http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2009/12/so2r-part-2.html 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] HP video showing PSDR
Found this on the ARRL web site today http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2009/12/09/11239/?nc=1 In it is mentioned “Computer giant Hewlett-Packard published a Real Life article Behind the Voices of Ham Radio . http://h30429.www3.hp.com/?fr_story=f4e2d0f85dd54ea62ef1ade14c61c0715576a2b3rf=sitemap Note that PSDR is shown in one of the first photos. Zack N8FNR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
Perhaps you failed to grasp what I wrote I can most definitely listen to 2 bands at once. In fact I can work 2 pileups at once. I don't need a bunch of fancy filters because I don't have problems with receiver desense. There is a means that you can add such filters into the receiver chain but I don't need them. This is common FUD from the roofing filter quarter about how SDR receivers fold in high RF conditions. I have never needed extra filters since my pair of SDR-1000 days. 1500W out one antenna never bothered the receiver on the adjacent band with its antenna 100ft away. There is some ergonomic work to be done for sure, mostly in integrating external programs like N1MM and DX lab and things like that into a seamless system and better distribution of audio and VAC to things like multiple instances of Skimmer. What Gerald was offering as far as I could tell was an invitation for people who are SO2R seasoned to provide their expertise to the mix on how to best exploit the feature set of the F5K. My piece was to try and illustrate what is there in its present iteration, and how I have integrated this radio into my station. It is a difficult concept to get across in something like an email so I thought the pictures might better explain how the system is designed. 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
SO2R part 2 http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2009/12/so2r-part-2.html ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Logitech MX 1100 Mouse
Solved the problem when dragging the window with the mouse but still has a hesitation when you flick the spin wheel. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com wrote: Turn on Spur Reduction. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Joe Camilli Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:04 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Logitech MX 1100 Mouse I just upgraded to the Logitech MX 1100 mouse and am having a small issue in PSDR. When I drag the main display window to change the frequency or use the spin wheel in the window there is a noticeable hesitation instead of a smooth flow of the window. I know it has something to with the mouse because this is the only change I made. Before with the old wireless mouse no issues. Any suggestions? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to telli...@itsco.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
Lee, I am not 100% sure if your setup is permanent or requires re-assigning antenna and relay ports as you change bands between the 2 RXs. Let me describe the following set up and see how we can make it work with what we have: Imagine an antenna farm that is switched in the field using a 2 x 10 SO2R antenna switch. There are only 2 coax cables going into the shack and each coax can be connected to any antenna from 160 to 10 m. Each coax goes into its own amplifier, which in turn need its own amp key line. What I want is VFO A to always trigger the first amplifier and VFO B to trigger the second amplifier, regardless of what VFO A's TX frequency and VFO B's TX frequency. And of course I do not want to manually re-assign antenna and relay ports when changing bands on VFO A or B. The important point is that I need to be able to TX on either VFO at any given time. Imagine running on VFO A and SP-ing on VFO B, on 2 different bands. The logger does all the TX VFO focus switch behind the scenes for me. So, can we do this with what we currently have available to us? It appears that the logger can in fact re-program the antenna selection on the fly using the set of available CAT commands. But this is extremely inefficient as the logger will have to send all the CAT commands just to turn the TX on, before even sending the actual contest message. It is much better to extend the existing PowerSDR software with a SO2R mode where antenna and relay outputs are per VFO rather than band. Rudy N2WQ --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting To: Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 11:21 PM I wrote a blog entry on how my station is set up for SO2R like operation. I don't run much contesting but I do run on 2 bands for DXing quite often which is the equivalent It's still a work in progress and there are a few refinements that I would like to see but this article gives a pretty good idea what a stock F5K plus RX2 can do http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2009/12/so2r.html 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to r_baka...@yahoo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
Lee, I think your illustration was very helpful. The real issue, however, is not the ability to listen on 2 bands, but the ability to transmit on 2 bands, one after another, with different antennas and amplifiers, without upfront assignment of bands to ports. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com wrote Perhaps you failed to grasp what I wrote I can most definitely listen to 2 bands at once. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
There is already a way to get the same effect but with one amplifier... I have a SPE-1K amp integrated with my Flex 5000 (with sincere thanks to Steve K5FR for his work on dduti to add the support!) - once the amp is programmed, it is possible to instantly move from one band to another and transmit. The amp takes care of which antenna to use, automatically selects the correct tuner settings, and responds to the PTT - single Flex 5000. When I was considering which amp to buy, I looked at both the SPE and the ACOM 2000 - for me the SPE won over because of 6m support - other's mileage will vary! With this solution, you can configure the amp on one of the antenna ports for the Flex, then use either the RX2 input or a different antenna port for routing the second band receive antenna to RX2. This is simplest with a dedicated antenna for receive on the other band - external switching is needed to support mapping a non-dedicated antenna between the amplifier antenna ports and the RX2 port choice. If band pass filters are used, the external switching is likely already in place. Although I haven't tried SO2R yet, I think the easiest way to deal with the software integration would be to use the VFO AB selection - map TX to always follow VFO A - VFO B is used for RX2 on whatever band for listening. When you want to transmit on the other band, flip the VFOs - make the contact and then flip back. Rudy correctly points out the requirements if you are using non-auto tune amplifiers. Hope this helps! Stu K6TU -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Rudy Bakalov Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:16 AM To: Flexradio; Lee A Crocker Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting Lee, I think your illustration was very helpful. The real issue, however, is not the ability to listen on 2 bands, but the ability to transmit on 2 bands, one after another, with different antennas and amplifiers, without upfront assignment of bands to ports. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com wrote Perhaps you failed to grasp what I wrote I can most definitely listen to 2 bands at once. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to s...@ridgelift.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters
I was hoping others would comment on this situation so that we can determine if this is a bug or if it just occurs in our 2 installations. If others are seeing this I will be more than happy to list this on the bug tracker. Then again PowerSDR 2.0 is coming and this may be irrelevant... Edwin Marzan AB2VW Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:17 + From: radio...@frontiernet.net To: edwin_mar...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters yes I have seen a simular issue when ever I go back to 80m from anyother band. the frequency on 80m will not be what it was when I left it I'm running 1.18.3, Windows XP pro, Core2Duo, 2+GHz, 4GRAM, Flex5000A. Dennis Petrich Amateur Radio Station K0EOO Lakeville Minnesota USA k0...@arrl.net 952-898-1082 - Original Message - From: Edwin Marzan edwin_mar...@hotmail.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:41:50 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters Greetings gents, When I callibrate the PA settings in PowerSDR using an SDR1000 the calibration for 80 meters reverts to 48 after it was set to 44.9 by the callibration routine. Please note that I always click Apply then OK. When I exit and the restart PowerSDR it it changes back to 48.0. The other bands save the settings properly. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks! Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslideid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to radio...@frontiernet.net Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to download. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslideid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters
I don't believe this is unique to 80m... Try the following... all this on PowerSDR 1.18.3 and ddutil latest release 1. Run suitable software that shows you multiple band spots (I use DxLab) 2. Set band to your choice and note the frequency (say 20m, 14.185) 3. Double click on spot that takes you to a different band (it gets set correctly) 4. Click button to reselect 20m (or other band that you had in step 2), the return frequency is NOT what was in the VFO before the QSY. As best as I can tell, the frequency that gets set when you repeats steps 2 thru 4 is random. I know that others have seen this too - I discussed this with Steve K5FR when we were debugging the SPE support - its not a function of ddutil. It looks like under these circumstances the band stacking registers don't function as expected. Tim - any insights or advice? This is 100% reproducible. Stu K6TU -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:27 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters I was hoping others would comment on this situation so that we can determine if this is a bug or if it just occurs in our 2 installations. If others are seeing this I will be more than happy to list this on the bug tracker. Then again PowerSDR 2.0 is coming and this may be irrelevant... Edwin Marzan AB2VW Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:17 + From: radio...@frontiernet.net To: edwin_mar...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters yes I have seen a simular issue when ever I go back to 80m from anyother band. the frequency on 80m will not be what it was when I left it I'm running 1.18.3, Windows XP pro, Core2Duo, 2+GHz, 4GRAM, Flex5000A. Dennis Petrich Amateur Radio Station K0EOO Lakeville Minnesota USA k0...@arrl.net 952-898-1082 - Original Message - From: Edwin Marzan edwin_mar...@hotmail.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:41:50 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters Greetings gents, When I callibrate the PA settings in PowerSDR using an SDR1000 the calibration for 80 meters reverts to 48 after it was set to 44.9 by the callibration routine. Please note that I always click Apply then OK. When I exit and the restart PowerSDR it it changes back to 48.0. The other bands save the settings properly. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks! Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslid eid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to radio...@frontiernet.net Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to download. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslid eid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to s...@ridgelift.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting
Stu, The SPE-1K amp is a good amp, but it also suffers from an underdeveloped approach to SO2R. If you have noticed, in SO2R mode, you are forced to use the SO2R antenna port on RX, instead of the TX port assigned to each input. Even if the SPE-1K firmware changes to address the above limitation, you still need 2 separate PTT lines to trigger a transmission on the appropriate input/band. Which leads us back to the way the Flex selects ports. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Stu Phillips s...@ridgelift.com wrote: From: Stu Phillips s...@ridgelift.com Subject: RE: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting To: Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com, Flexradio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz, Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 10:44 AM There is already a way to get the same effect but with one amplifier... I have a SPE-1K amp integrated with my Flex 5000 (with sincere thanks to Steve K5FR for his work on dduti to add the support!) - once the amp is programmed, it is possible to instantly move from one band to another and transmit. The amp takes care of which antenna to use, automatically selects the correct tuner settings, and responds to the PTT - single Flex 5000. When I was considering which amp to buy, I looked at both the SPE and the ACOM 2000 - for me the SPE won over because of 6m support - other's mileage will vary! With this solution, you can configure the amp on one of the antenna ports for the Flex, then use either the RX2 input or a different antenna port for routing the second band receive antenna to RX2. This is simplest with a dedicated antenna for receive on the other band - external switching is needed to support mapping a non-dedicated antenna between the amplifier antenna ports and the RX2 port choice. If band pass filters are used, the external switching is likely already in place. Although I haven't tried SO2R yet, I think the easiest way to deal with the software integration would be to use the VFO AB selection - map TX to always follow VFO A - VFO B is used for RX2 on whatever band for listening. When you want to transmit on the other band, flip the VFOs - make the contact and then flip back. Rudy correctly points out the requirements if you are using non-auto tune amplifiers. Hope this helps! Stu K6TU -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Rudy Bakalov Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:16 AM To: Flexradio; Lee A Crocker Subject: Re: [Flexradio] More Flex in contesting Lee, I think your illustration was very helpful. The real issue, however, is not the ability to listen on 2 bands, but the ability to transmit on 2 bands, one after another, with different antennas and amplifiers, without upfront assignment of bands to ports. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Lee A Crocker lee_croc...@yahoo.com wrote Perhaps you failed to grasp what I wrote I can most definitely listen to 2 bands at once. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to s...@ridgelift.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters
If it is reproducible, make sure you have submitted the bug and how to reproduce it to the bug tracker. I can't test it. My SDR-1000 now lives in the W4TME Hall of Fame (shack storage closet) since I needed the bench space. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Stu Phillips Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:37 AM To: Edwin Marzan; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters I don't believe this is unique to 80m... Try the following... all this on PowerSDR 1.18.3 and ddutil latest release 1. Run suitable software that shows you multiple band spots (I use DxLab) 2. Set band to your choice and note the frequency (say 20m, 14.185) 3. Double click on spot that takes you to a different band (it gets set correctly) 4. Click button to reselect 20m (or other band that you had in step 2), the return frequency is NOT what was in the VFO before the QSY. As best as I can tell, the frequency that gets set when you repeats steps 2 thru 4 is random. I know that others have seen this too - I discussed this with Steve K5FR when we were debugging the SPE support - its not a function of ddutil. It looks like under these circumstances the band stacking registers don't function as expected. Tim - any insights or advice? This is 100% reproducible. Stu K6TU -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:27 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters I was hoping others would comment on this situation so that we can determine if this is a bug or if it just occurs in our 2 installations. If others are seeing this I will be more than happy to list this on the bug tracker. Then again PowerSDR 2.0 is coming and this may be irrelevant... Edwin Marzan AB2VW Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:17 + From: radio...@frontiernet.net To: edwin_mar...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters yes I have seen a simular issue when ever I go back to 80m from anyother band. the frequency on 80m will not be what it was when I left it I'm running 1.18.3, Windows XP pro, Core2Duo, 2+GHz, 4GRAM, Flex5000A. Dennis Petrich Amateur Radio Station K0EOO Lakeville Minnesota USA k0...@arrl.net 952-898-1082 - Original Message - From: Edwin Marzan edwin_mar...@hotmail.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:41:50 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters Greetings gents, When I callibrate the PA settings in PowerSDR using an SDR1000 the calibration for 80 meters reverts to 48 after it was set to 44.9 by the callibration routine. Please note that I always click Apply then OK. When I exit and the restart PowerSDR it it changes back to 48.0. The other bands save the settings properly. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks! Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslid eid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to radio...@frontiernet.net Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to download. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslid eid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to s...@ridgelift.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to
[Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears that the logger can in fact re-program the antenna selection on the fly using the set of available CAT commands. But this is extremely inefficient as the logger will have to send all the CAT commands just to turn the TX on, before even sending the actual contest message. It is much better to extend the existing PowerSDR software with a SO2R mode where antenna and relay outputs are per VFO rather than band. What you have described, i.e. sending all the commands to change the antenna settings before initiating the transmit, is both necessary and sufficient to meet all cases, present and future. If your data link is fast there will be no appreciable delay. At 19200 bps a 20 byte command sequence is transmitted in 10.4 ms. If it is running on a virtual serial port where the speed is limited only by the context switching time and processing delay, it would be much faster. The only time it might be an issue is if someone is trying to run full QSK on CW and even then, not too much. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
Fair enough. The issue with the logger is the ease of configuration. Many hams are intimidated by messing with CAT commands. Also, there is a much higher risk of an error compared to a visual interface that clearly defines the configuration. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Subject: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:00 PM On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears that the logger can in fact re-program the antenna selection on the fly using the set of available CAT commands. But this is extremely inefficient as the logger will have to send all the CAT commands just to turn the TX on, before even sending the actual contest message. It is much better to extend the existing PowerSDR software with a SO2R mode where antenna and relay outputs are per VFO rather than band. What you have described, i.e. sending all the commands to change the antenna settings before initiating the transmit, is both necessary and sufficient to meet all cases, present and future. If your data link is fast there will be no appreciable delay. At 19200 bps a 20 byte command sequence is transmitted in 10.4 ms. If it is running on a virtual serial port where the speed is limited only by the context switching time and processing delay, it would be much faster. The only time it might be an issue is if someone is trying to run full QSK on CW and even then, not too much. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to r_baka...@yahoo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: Fair enough. The issue with the logger is the ease of configuration. Many hams are intimidated by messing with CAT commands. I don't expect most hams to mess with the CAT commands. I do expect that they are the way that an external program can control the basic radio functions. (And even then I am not sure that CAT commands are the right way to do it.) Also, there is a much higher risk of an error compared to a visual interface that clearly defines the configuration. They are not mutually exclusive. The logical method is to produce a function-specific GUI that then sends appropriate messages to the radio back-end. This presumes that there is a proper control language to allow setting of all functions in the radio back-end. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] (no subject)
Pretty Kool Lee. Thanks for the details and descriptions.. Learn something every day. 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Lee A Crocker wrote: I wrote a second part to the SO2R experience describing some of the aspects of frequency management in a triplex radio system http://w9oy-sdr.blogspot.com/2009/12/so2r-part-2.html 73 W9OY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to jhu...@austin.rr.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] Flex for sale
I'm selling 2 SDR 1000's and 2 Griffin knobs and 3 Flex Parallel to USB adapters on QTH.com for a friend . Type in Flex or K8ICB at QTH.com classified and the ad will come up . 73 Dan K8ICB in Florida ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
Speaking of logging software, have any FLEX users out there interfaced LOGic to their SDR radios? 73 dan k0dan - Original Message - From: Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting Fair enough. The issue with the logger is the ease of configuration. Many hams are intimidated by messing with CAT commands. Also, there is a much higher risk of an error compared to a visual interface that clearly defines the configuration. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Subject: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:00 PM On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears that the logger can in fact re-program the antenna selection on the fly using the set of available CAT commands. But this is extremely inefficient as the logger will have to send all the CAT commands just to turn the TX on, before even sending the actual contest message. It is much better to extend the existing PowerSDR software with a SO2R mode where antenna and relay outputs are per VFO rather than band. What you have described, i.e. sending all the commands to change the antenna settings before initiating the transmit, is both necessary and sufficient to meet all cases, present and future. If your data link is fast there will be no appreciable delay. At 19200 bps a 20 byte command sequence is transmitted in 10.4 ms. If it is running on a virtual serial port where the speed is limited only by the context switching time and processing delay, it would be much faster. The only time it might be an issue is if someone is trying to run full QSK on CW and even then, not too much. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to r_baka...@yahoo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to k0...@comcast.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters
One day you'll be going through that shack storage closet, you'll see the box with the SDR1000 and you'll remember the joy it brought you the first time you fired it up. Mine still brings me lots of joy!! All the best! Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: telli...@itsco.com To: s...@ridgelift.com; edwin_mar...@hotmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:20:00 -0500 Subject: RE: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters If it is reproducible, make sure you have submitted the bug and how to reproduce it to the bug tracker. I can't test it. My SDR-1000 now lives in the W4TME Hall of Fame (shack storage closet) since I needed the bench space. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Stu Phillips Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:37 AM To: Edwin Marzan; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters I don't believe this is unique to 80m... Try the following... all this on PowerSDR 1.18.3 and ddutil latest release 1. Run suitable software that shows you multiple band spots (I use DxLab) 2. Set band to your choice and note the frequency (say 20m, 14.185) 3. Double click on spot that takes you to a different band (it gets set correctly) 4. Click button to reselect 20m (or other band that you had in step 2), the return frequency is NOT what was in the VFO before the QSY. As best as I can tell, the frequency that gets set when you repeats steps 2 thru 4 is random. I know that others have seen this too - I discussed this with Steve K5FR when we were debugging the SPE support - its not a function of ddutil. It looks like under these circumstances the band stacking registers don't function as expected. Tim - any insights or advice? This is 100% reproducible. Stu K6TU -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:27 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters I was hoping others would comment on this situation so that we can determine if this is a bug or if it just occurs in our 2 installations. If others are seeing this I will be more than happy to list this on the bug tracker. Then again PowerSDR 2.0 is coming and this may be irrelevant... Edwin Marzan AB2VW Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:17:17 + From: radio...@frontiernet.net To: edwin_mar...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters yes I have seen a simular issue when ever I go back to 80m from anyother band. the frequency on 80m will not be what it was when I left it I'm running 1.18.3, Windows XP pro, Core2Duo, 2+GHz, 4GRAM, Flex5000A. Dennis Petrich Amateur Radio Station K0EOO Lakeville Minnesota USA k0...@arrl.net 952-898-1082 - Original Message - From: Edwin Marzan edwin_mar...@hotmail.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:41:50 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR 1.18.3 doesn't keep PA settings on 80 meters Greetings gents, When I callibrate the PA settings in PowerSDR using an SDR1000 the calibration for 80 meters reverts to 48 after it was set to 44.9 by the callibration routine. Please note that I always click Apply then OK. When I exit and the restart PowerSDR it it changes back to 48.0. The other bands save the settings properly. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks! Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslid eid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to radio...@frontiernet.net Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. Click here to download. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/videos-tours.aspx?h=7secslid eid=1media=aero-shake-7secondlistid=1stop=1ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_7secdemo:122009 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
Nobody so far has talked about timing and delay issues in the case of doing all the antenna and PTT selection by the logger via CAT commands. I hope someone with deeper knowledge of the F5K can answer the following questions: 1) How long does it actually take for the radio to select antenna and PTT lines? The delay may turn out to be much too long to answer someone in a pileup with good timing. 2) Can the F5K accept all CAT commands as one string? The Kenwood CAT protocol uses a 150ms pacing. So, if 2 seperate commands (select ANT and PTT line) are sent before TX there would be at least a 300ms and maybe as much as 450ms delay. The polling runs all the time so depending when the polling occurs, a string of commands before TX could be delayed further. Then you would add the relay hardware delay on top of this. This delay isn't attractive. If the F5K could accept all commands as one string, that would reduce the TX command delay up to 150ms. 3) What would provide the delay between the RF relay switching and RF being applied? Seems that there would be a chance for some relay damage. The N1MM Logger program sends radio commands and never looks for a confirmation. Unless there are ways of addressing the delays listed above, right now I believe the radio needs to take care of itself. That is, switch the relay, PTT, and antenna when the CAT command is received to select VFO A or B; relying on the logger to do all this and do it quickly is likely not feasible. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting To: Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com Cc: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:44 PM On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: Fair enough. The issue with the logger is the ease of configuration. Many hams are intimidated by messing with CAT commands. I don't expect most hams to mess with the CAT commands. I do expect that they are the way that an external program can control the basic radio functions. (And even then I am not sure that CAT commands are the right way to do it.) Also, there is a much higher risk of an error compared to a visual interface that clearly defines the configuration. They are not mutually exclusive. The logical method is to produce a function-specific GUI that then sends appropriate messages to the radio back-end. This presumes that there is a proper control language to allow setting of all functions in the radio back-end. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
I did, but Logic8 kept locking up, I repeatedly tried to get the developer to fix the problem with no luck. I changed to DXLab suite and have not looked back. You will not get better support on any product than Dave provides with DXLab. George W2GS -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of K0DAN Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:35 PM To: FlexRadio reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting Speaking of logging software, have any FLEX users out there interfaced LOGic to their SDR radios? 73 dan k0dan - Original Message - From: Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting Fair enough. The issue with the logger is the ease of configuration. Many hams are intimidated by messing with CAT commands. Also, there is a much higher risk of an error compared to a visual interface that clearly defines the configuration. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Subject: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:00 PM On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears that the logger can in fact re-program the antenna selection on the fly using the set of available CAT commands. But this is extremely inefficient as the logger will have to send all the CAT commands just to turn the TX on, before even sending the actual contest message. It is much better to extend the existing PowerSDR software with a SO2R mode where antenna and relay outputs are per VFO rather than band. What you have described, i.e. sending all the commands to change the antenna settings before initiating the transmit, is both necessary and sufficient to meet all cases, present and future. If your data link is fast there will be no appreciable delay. At 19200 bps a 20 byte command sequence is transmitted in 10.4 ms. If it is running on a virtual serial port where the speed is limited only by the context switching time and processing delay, it would be much faster. The only time it might be an issue is if someone is trying to run full QSK on CW and even then, not too much. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to r_baka...@yahoo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to k0...@comcast.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to a...@bellsouth.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] SO2R
If the Flex 5000a with a dual receiver could do the following; VFO A = Ant 1 for receive and transmit of VFO A frequency VFO B = Ant 2 for receive and transmit of VFO B frequency AMP RLY TX1 keyed for VFO A transmit AMP RLY TX2 keyed for VFO B transmit -- would that accomplish the desired results? The operator would only have to click on the Tx square next to each VFO to indicate the transmitted frequency while both VFO frequencies could be listened to. Two outboard kilowatt amplifiers could be connected to Ant1 and Ant 2 respectively. Two accessory 6X2 or 6X10 switches could used on Ant 1 and Ant 2 for the band switching of antennas. The software creating the Antenna Selection panel would need to be written with an extra mode. This would allow the ability of an SO2R VFO oriented switching in addition to it's present band oriented switching. No hardware changes would be needed. Each VFO would act like a completely independent radio. Each of the Ant 1 and Ant 2 amplifiers and antennas would not need to be switched to different frequencies thus saving valuable time during a contest. Ted NX6C ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
Rudy asked: 2) Can the F5K accept all CAT commands as one string? The Kenwood CAT protocol uses a 150ms pacing. So, if 2 seperate commands (select ANT and PTT line) are sent before TX there would be at least a 300ms and maybe as much as 450ms delay. The polling runs all the time so depending when the polling occurs, a string of commands before TX could be delayed further. Then you would add the relay hardware delay on top of this. This delay isn't attractive. If the F5K could accept all commands as one string, that would reduce the TX command delay up to 150ms. The CAT program buffers incoming commands and processes them in a FIFO manner. The program is, in essence, processing the commands in one string. There are no built-in internal delays other than the time it takes to process a command and return an answer (if required), which is very short compared to the polling period. Incoming commands that switch a function (like MOX) go straight to the PowerSDR property concerned and effect the change without returning an answer I'm not privy to the code in the external logging programs but I would think that a command initiated by the logger, like PTT, would not be subject to the polling interval but sent immediately. Only command that are requesting status update are polled. That is what I see when monitoring the serial data between third party programs and PowerSDR. I can furnish code snippets from the CAT code if you're interested. Bob Tracy, K5KDN ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] Mouse Dropouts With N1MM Contest Logger
Mouse Dropouts (not mouse droppings!) with N1MM I'm setting up the N1MM Contest Logger with my new Flex-5000A (windows XP home, loaded AMD quad core and latest Flex firmware/PSDR) via K5VR's VSP port manager software. Radio reads N1MM. The Flex follows keyboard up/down arrows and bands I type into N1MM. I can send CW using N1MM. N!MM reads the Flex frequency and tracks frequency on its band map. Problem is my mouse wheel drops out of tuning almost immediately unless I have the Tune Step on 1 Hz, or sometimes 10Hz. I'm tuning the frequency with a new cordless Logitech laser free-spinning wheel mouse. A conventional Logitech wired mouse has the same problem. Left-clicking the mouse re-engages the tuning which almost immediately drops out again. The Flex tunes properly with N1MM turned off. I'd been advised to try turning on the SR (Spur Reduction), but that didn't reduce drop outs. Ideas? Jeff K0OD ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting
I've been running LOGic with hardware radios for a l-o-n-g time, pretty much trouble-free and frankly can't complain about the product or support. OK, so some have reported troubles interfacing with FLEX, others not. Those of you who have switched from LOGic to DXLab or something else, how bad was the data transfer, esp as regards reports, awards, QSLO info, eQSL, LOTW, etc., etc., all that background stuff which you have accumulated for years? Surely all this stuff doesn't just port overor does it 73 dan k0dan - Original Message - From: dan edwards w...@att.net To: George Steube a...@bellsouth.net Cc: flex list flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting i second that motion dxLab work GREAT dan, w5xz --- On Fri, 12/11/09, George Steube a...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: George Steube a...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting To: K0DAN k0...@comcast.net, FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 12:00 AM I did, but Logic8 kept locking up, I repeatedly tried to get the developer to fix the problem with no luck. I changed to DXLab suite and have not looked back. You will not get better support on any product than Dave provides with DXLab. George W2GS -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of K0DAN Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:35 PM To: FlexRadio reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting Speaking of logging software, have any FLEX users out there interfaced LOGic to their SDR radios? 73 dan k0dan - Original Message - From: Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting Fair enough. The issue with the logger is the ease of configuration. Many hams are intimidated by messing with CAT commands. Also, there is a much higher risk of an error compared to a visual interface that clearly defines the configuration. Rudy N2WQ --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com wrote: From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com Subject: [Flexradio] Fwd: More Flex in contesting To: FlexRadio reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 1:00 PM On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Rudy Bakalov r_baka...@yahoo.com wrote: It appears that the logger can in fact re-program the antenna selection on the fly using the set of available CAT commands. But this is extremely inefficient as the logger will have to send all the CAT commands just to turn the TX on, before even sending the actual contest message. It is much better to extend the existing PowerSDR software with a SO2R mode where antenna and relay outputs are per VFO rather than band. What you have described, i.e. sending all the commands to change the antenna settings before initiating the transmit, is both necessary and sufficient to meet all cases, present and future. If your data link is fast there will be no appreciable delay. At 19200 bps a 20 byte command sequence is transmitted in 10.4 ms. If it is running on a virtual serial port where the speed is limited only by the context switching time and processing delay, it would be much faster. The only time it might be an issue is if someone is trying to run full QSK on CW and even then, not too much. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to r_baka...@yahoo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to k0...@comcast.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to a...@bellsouth.net ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message
