Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Hi Bob, I'm using a Delta-44, but yes, it's essentially the same thing: Pro-40 directly to the audio card. No other external equipment. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: Bob Maser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:35 PM To: John P Basilotto W5GI; 'A.R.S. - W5AMI'; 'Jeff Anderson' Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment I run my PR-40 directly into the Edirol and then it goes into the Flex. I assume that this is what K6JCA is doing, right? Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'A.R.S. - W5AMI' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jeff Anderson' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. Thanks. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM To: Jeff Anderson Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment I have lots of outboard audio gear. Compressor, limiter, mic pre, eq's, etc. I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB. I'm not even using the built in EQ and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday. The key is the transmit bandwidth you use. John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use. Is that possible? Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable threshold in dB units... 73 Brian / w5ami On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR. No external processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band equalizer, per the gang I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as well as AM). I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving SDRs, and they all sound great, too. I've set the SDR equalizer as follows: Low: Midpoint. Mid: Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark. Hi: Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks. Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Edwin, I use the EQplus from W2IHY as pre-processing before the FA-66. I don't need to, but since I like using my condenser mic on my back up rig (756 ProII), I set the EQplus so that the Pro II sounds good and then back down the gain on the FA-66. The big thing to watch is not to over drive the compression. I also LOVE the downward expander for reducing shack noise. It works better than a noise gate. Setting up the EQplus this way, I can switch between the three rigs with a twist of a knob. It is also convenient because PTT is controlled by the EQplus, so I have only one foot peddle for all the HF rigs. -Tim W4TME - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Code. -Tim Integrated Technical Services www.itsco.com Si fractum non sit, id reficere -Unknown Roman consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachment s/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
The 3 bands work just great! - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann To: 'Gerald Capodieci' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 2:28 PM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20070202/b765a7d1/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Three bands would work great if they were a parametric EQ that incorporated a wide range variable frequency and sharp Q per control. In a standard EQ I would like to see an 8 band with center frequencies at: 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 2400, 3200 4000 Hz to satisfy the AM crowd -Tim W4TME -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Mayer Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:21 PM To: Eric Wachsmann; 'Gerald Capodieci'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment The 3 bands work just great! - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann To: 'Gerald Capodieci' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 2:28 PM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachment s/20070202/b765a7d1/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered? I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gerald Capodieci' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600 We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donationFORM=WLMTAG ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
These were these frequencies at one time. The 10 band which will be developed will conform to International standards. It has already been designed and will most likely appear sometime this year. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:45 PM To: Frank Mayer; Eric Wachsmann; Gerald Capodieci; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Three bands would work great if they were a parametric EQ that incorporated a wide range variable frequency and sharp Q per control. In a standard EQ I would like to see an 8 band with center frequencies at: 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 2400, 3200 4000 Hz to satisfy the AM crowd -Tim W4TME -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Mayer Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:21 PM To: Eric Wachsmann; 'Gerald Capodieci'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment The 3 bands work just great! - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann To: 'Gerald Capodieci' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 2:28 PM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachment s/20070202/b765a7d1/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains. When setup properly a parametric is the way to go. Yaesu is sorry they included the parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered? I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gerald Capodieci' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600 We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtaglin e_donationFORM=WLMTAG ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
I agree 100% John!! After years in pro audio there is nothing like a graphic EQ for voice work. Parametric is good for zeroing on on a very specific problem are like feedback control where a single tone can be found and eliminated without noticeably affecting the mix. If you have a good announcing mike like a a Shure SM-7, EV re-27, or PR-40, the 3 band will more than suffice. Parametric will provide many ways to sound bad! - Original Message - From: John P Basilotto W5GI To: 'Edwin Marzan' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains. When setup properly a parametric is the way to go. Yaesu is sorry they included the parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered? I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gerald Capodieci' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600 We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtaglin e_donationFORM=WLMTAG ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
John, I am using the famed Symetrix 528E which has a three band parametric EQ. There are a lot of these units out there and frankly it is very easy to set up and use .. even a caveman can do it! --Larry John P Basilotto W5GI wrote: You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains. When setup properly a parametric is the way to go. Yaesu is sorry they included the parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered? I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gerald Capodieci' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600 We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtaglin e_donationFORM=WLMTAG ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
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Thank you, Eric and John, I'm patiently waiting for the better 10-band EQ, but don't hurry. The highest priority is the MODULAR PowerSDR. Just wanted to say that the 15-band version was pretty good a couple of years ago. Also I want to remind why I like a multiband EQ, not because of the nice sounding Hi-Fi voice, but the punch through DX pile-ups: http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/speechproc.pdf http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/ahti/sdr-1000/filtclip.pdf 73, Ahti OH2RZ On 02/02/07, Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
I will be more than happy with a 10 band eq. It can be argued that our radios can be difficult to set up but once we've learned the ins and outs of our radios they perform extremely well and in most cases superior to what is out there. Such would be the case with a parametric eq. With absolutely no experience using one I was able to solve an annoying problem in the audio of a soundtrack of a DVD that I was authoring in about 10 minutes. I believe this level of control if implemented intuitively would be a trememdous asset to flex users. So perhaps not now but later down the pike!! Now if I could only figure out how to tweak the settings in my AGC... Regards, Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: Larry W8ER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:08:48 -0500 John, I am using the famed Symetrix 528E which has a three band parametric EQ. There are a lot of these units out there and frankly it is very easy to set up and use .. even a caveman can do it! --Larry John P Basilotto W5GI wrote: You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains. When setup properly a parametric is the way to go. Yaesu is sorry they included the parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered? I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: Eric Wachsmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gerald Capodieci' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600 We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ. But it didn't work very well. We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler version that performed at a level we were satisfied with. One bird in the hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing... I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We use only 3 now. I wonder what the other 28 are waiting for? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex- radio.biz/attachments/20070202/73c66d89/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtaglin e_donationFORM=WLMTAG ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
I have lots of outboard audio gear. Compressor, limiter, mic pre, eq's, etc. I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB. I'm not even using the built in EQ and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday. The key is the transmit bandwidth you use. John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use. Is that possible? Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable threshold in dB units... 73 Brian / w5ami On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR. No external processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band equalizer, per the gang I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as well as AM). I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving SDRs, and they all sound great, too. I've set the SDR equalizer as follows: Low: Midpoint. Mid: Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark. Hi: Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks. Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes
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Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. Thanks. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM To: Jeff Anderson Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment I have lots of outboard audio gear. Compressor, limiter, mic pre, eq's, etc. I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB. I'm not even using the built in EQ and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday. The key is the transmit bandwidth you use. John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use. Is that possible? Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable threshold in dB units... 73 Brian / w5ami On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR. No external processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band equalizer, per the gang I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as well as AM). I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving SDRs, and they all sound great, too. I've set the SDR equalizer as follows: Low: Midpoint. Mid: Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark. Hi: Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks. Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701
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Will do John. Thanks! Brian On 2/1/07, John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. Thanks. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM To: Jeff Anderson Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment I have lots of outboard audio gear. Compressor, limiter, mic pre, eq's, etc. I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB. I'm not even using the built in EQ and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday. The key is the transmit bandwidth you use. John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use. Is that possible? Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable threshold in dB units... 73 Brian / w5ami On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR. No external processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band equalizer, per the gang I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as well as AM). I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving SDRs, and they all sound great, too. I've set the SDR equalizer as follows: Low: Midpoint. Mid: Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark. Hi: Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks. Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW
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I run my PR-40 directly into the Edirol and then it goes into the Flex. I assume that this is what K6JCA is doing, right? Bob W6TR - Original Message - From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'A.R.S. - W5AMI' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jeff Anderson' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. Thanks. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM To: Jeff Anderson Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment I have lots of outboard audio gear. Compressor, limiter, mic pre, eq's, etc. I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB. I'm not even using the built in EQ and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday. The key is the transmit bandwidth you use. John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use. Is that possible? Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable threshold in dB units... 73 Brian / w5ami On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR. No external processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band equalizer, per the gang I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as well as AM). I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving SDRs, and they all sound great, too. I've set the SDR equalizer as follows: Low: Midpoint. Mid: Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark. Hi: Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks. Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I
[Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
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Ed, I use external audio gear and keep the Flex transmit audio unchecked or flat, but the external gear is so that the other radios in my station will sound the same.. But since I almost exclusively use the Flex, I could just connect my microphone directly into the sound card (or box in the case of the FireBox and Fa-66) and not have any of this external gear. A little over a year ago, the equalization options were changing with every version and did make it difficult to keep up with, but even the Alpha versions have been stable for quite a while, so operating directly in is now a good option. Now we even have a noise gate like the IHY boxes, in the console.. I love this radio stuff!! 73, Dudley WA5QPZ At 02:15 PM 1/29/2007, Edwin Marzan wrote: Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
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A lot depends on the microphone you will be using. Any microphone designed for professional audio equipment and not ham radio will likely need equalization on any radio, software defined or not. The EQ within the software of the Flex is just fine for most any microphone and audio setup. Remember however that the D44 soundcard does not provide phantom power for pro condenser mics but neither does the IHY box for that matter. I guess the bottom line is that the Flex software will get you there with a good quality microphone. - Original Message - From: Edwin Marzan To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/657 - Release Date: 1/29/2007 9:04 AM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20070129/133e1716/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
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I believe this is it http://www.valpeyfisher.com/openlink.aspx?name=Images/ProductPDFs/XO/VF1 60_RevA0906.pdf -Tim - Integrated Technical Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-marc BORD Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:21 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hi, I am looking for the reference or the spec of the 200MHz oscillator used in the SDR1K DDS board. It looks like it's a 3,3v device. Regards Jean-marc F1HDI ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
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Ed, I, like Dudley, use external audio gear so I can feed all of the gear I use with the same audio (TS-870, TM-241's, computers, etc.) After a lot of experimenting I found that external audio equipment provided the best and most versatile on the air sound. That was a while ago however, prior to Bob adding the three band EQ. I suspect that the three band EQ and processing code that exists now may be quite sufficient to give anyone very nice sounding and effective audio without the additional expense and trouble of external audio gear. If you are a purist and have many hundreds of dollars lying around, go for it .. but only after you have tried what the SDR-1000 software has to offer and determined that the external gear is necessary. --Larry W8ER Edwin Marzan wrote: Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
Ed, I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR. No external processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band equalizer, per the gang I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as well as AM). I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving SDRs, and they all sound great, too. I've set the SDR equalizer as follows: Low: Midpoint. Mid: Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark. Hi: Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks. Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50. - Jeff, K6JCA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill. I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq to get that hi fi sound. As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job. Edwin Marzan AB2VW From: John P Basilotto W5GI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Edwin Marzan' [EMAIL PROTECTED],flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600 PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station. The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the primary factor is sounding like a commercial station. External audio gear like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K. I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with. We are planning to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio tools within PoerSDR. John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office 512-535-5266 Mobile 512-608-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment Hardware defined versus software defined. Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB? Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case? I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software if not now perhaps in the near future? I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't? Thanks again... Edwin Marzan AB2VW _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ _ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDayocid=T001MSN30A0701 ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
