Re: [Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics

[GARY HUBER]

Mark, I no longer have your original message, but if the "spur" was 1.2 
kHz as I recall, I'm wondering if you have a local AM broadcast station 
which may have mixed in your final. I have seen sum and difference 
products from local transmitters mixing in a transmitter result in 
"spurs". Sometimes it is a matter of running intermod calculations on 
the local transmitters, identifying what is getting into your PA and 
then filtering them to prevent further problems. I'm not say its one 
transmitter, it could be two or more or it may not even be a mixing 
problem... just a thought outside the box.

73 ES DX,
Gary - AB9M

On 11/25/2016 11:47 AM, Mark Lunday wrote:
> Thanks Patrick.
>
> It was two stations about 700 miles away in different directions.
>
> Instead of harmonic, I should have said Spur.  I shall open a ticket with
> Flex.
>
> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
> Greensboro, NC  FM06be
> wd4...@arrl.net
> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
> Patrick Greenlee
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:27 AM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics
>
> Mark, Harmonics are integral multiples of your frequency so whatever was
> happening it wasn't a harmonic of your signal.
>
> How close was the reporting station to your QTH?  Strange things happen when
> someone experiences fundamental overload of their receiver.  If able,
> arrange to have a look at your emissions on a good spectrum analyzer.  It
> might not be something you are emitting but something created in his
> receiver.
>
> One time in the early 60's I was reported to the FCC as causing TVI.  I had
> a 2nd class licensee prepare a fact finding report in response to "The
> Letter" from the FCC.  I was putting out a very clean 3 Watts on the CB band
> and the "ancient" TV I was interfering with  had an IF with band width
> covering the CB freqs.  I was transmitting directly into one of the TV
> receiver's IF circuits.  Solution: Hey dude, get a more modern TV. End of
> story.
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics

[Ray Andrews, K9DUR]

Mark,

1.2 kHz down would be an image response of your xmt signal if the 
sidetone frequency is the default value of 600 Hz -- as if the opposite 
sideband was not being suppressed.


You did not say what type of radio.  IF FLEX-1500, FLEX-3000, or 
FLEX-5000, try doing a reset to factory defaults.  Starting with a clean 
database cures a myriad of ailments.


73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics

[Mark Lunday]

Thanks Patrick.

It was two stations about 700 miles away in different directions.

Instead of harmonic, I should have said Spur.  I shall open a ticket with
Flex.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
Patrick Greenlee
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:27 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics

Mark, Harmonics are integral multiples of your frequency so whatever was
happening it wasn't a harmonic of your signal.

How close was the reporting station to your QTH?  Strange things happen when
someone experiences fundamental overload of their receiver.  If able,
arrange to have a look at your emissions on a good spectrum analyzer.  It
might not be something you are emitting but something created in his
receiver.

One time in the early 60's I was reported to the FCC as causing TVI.  I had
a 2nd class licensee prepare a fact finding report in response to "The
Letter" from the FCC.  I was putting out a very clean 3 Watts on the CB band
and the "ancient" TV I was interfering with  had an IF with band width
covering the CB freqs.  I was transmitting directly into one of the TV
receiver's IF circuits.  Solution: Hey dude, get a more modern TV. End of
story.



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Re: [Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics

[Patrick Greenlee]

Mark, Harmonics are integral multiples of your frequency so whatever was 
happening it wasn't a harmonic of your signal.


How close was the reporting station to your QTH?  Strange things happen 
when someone experiences fundamental overload of their receiver.  If 
able, arrange to have a look at your emissions on a good spectrum 
analyzer.  It might not be something you are emitting but something 
created in his receiver.


One time in the early 60's I was reported to the FCC as causing TVI.  I 
had a 2nd class licensee prepare a fact finding report in response to 
"The Letter" from the FCC.  I was putting out a very clean 3 Watts on 
the CB band and the "ancient" TV I was interfering with  had an IF with 
band width covering the CB freqs.  I was transmitting directly into one 
of the TV receiver's IF circuits.  Solution: Hey dude, get a more modern 
TV. End of story.



On 11/24/2016 11:44 PM, Mark Lunday wrote:

I was attempting to break through the pileup for 5H1WW on 80 CW the other
night.  A ham emailed me the next morning and said he could hear a harmonic
of my CW signal 1.2 kHz down from my main.which unfortunately was right on
top of the DX station.

This is the first time someone has told me about this, but I think I read
somewhere about it happening to another ham on 160 meters.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  How did you resolve it?  I was running
an amp at the time into an inverted L.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
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[Flexradio] Question about TX harmonics

[Mark Lunday]

I was attempting to break through the pileup for 5H1WW on 80 CW the other
night.  A ham emailed me the next morning and said he could hear a harmonic
of my CW signal 1.2 kHz down from my main.which unfortunately was right on
top of the DX station.

This is the first time someone has told me about this, but I think I read
somewhere about it happening to another ham on 160 meters.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?  How did you resolve it?  I was running
an amp at the time into an inverted L.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


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[Flexradio] QUESTION about the VU5K

[wt4t]

Just finished setting up my 5000a with the VU5K. I have all the info I could 
fine on the VU5K, which is not a lot. Anybody have any info on the unit,or 
where I can look to find more information on the VU5K? 
Some of the questions are. 
 
1. The normal output on the VU5K. Have heard apx. 65-70 and some say 100. 
 
2, what ever the output is, at what point would the output start to roll back 
,as the VSR went up?Iam at apx. 
1.5 on vhf and 2.1 on uhf on my antennas. 
 
3. If I used a mast mounted preamp, Will the VU5K tolerate the voltage feed 
imposed on the coax, with no problems. 
 
Any info on the VU5K,I would be happy to pay for copying and mailing ,or e 
mailing. 
73
dale wt4t
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[Flexradio] Question about tuning and changing modes

[k8ki/Bob]

When I change modes in PowerSDR, I would like the radio to retain the 
existing passband, and just place the carrier in the right location 
without changing the frequency of the passband. So if I go, for example, 
from CWU to LSB to DIGL, I'd like to keep the passband constant.  I've 
tried to do this in Setup, but the software keeps the carrier frequency 
constant, not the passband.

73, Bob DePierre, k8ki

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Re: [Flexradio] Question

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

Mike opened a HelpDesk ticket and got essentially an instantaneous 
resolution to his issue.  It was a combination of the 60m demod bug Eric 
referenced anda problem with his band level persistence.


Tim Ellison, W4TME
Customer Experience Manager
FlexRadio Systems™
4616 W Howard Ln, Suite 1-150
Austin, TX 78728
Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 223
Web: www.flexradio.com 
On 3/24/2015 11:39 AM, Eric Wachsmann wrote:

Mike,

Make sure you are using the right mode.  The default mode on 60m is being
set incorrectly to LSB in SmartSDR v1.4.0.  We have written this up as
issue #1765 and will address this in a future release.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Michael  wrote:


For some reason I can not operate on 60 meters with the Flex 6300 the MOX
button is grayed out . I am on the correct frequency channel(s) . Is this
not implemented in the 6300 or am I missing something obvious?

Thanks

Mike



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Re: [Flexradio] Question

[Eric Wachsmann]

Mike,

Make sure you are using the right mode.  The default mode on 60m is being
set incorrectly to LSB in SmartSDR v1.4.0.  We have written this up as
issue #1765 and will address this in a future release.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Michael  wrote:

> For some reason I can not operate on 60 meters with the Flex 6300 the MOX
> button is grayed out . I am on the correct frequency channel(s) . Is this
> not implemented in the 6300 or am I missing something obvious?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
>
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[Flexradio] Question

[Michael]

For some reason I can not operate on 60 meters with the Flex 6300 the MOX
button is grayed out . I am on the correct frequency channel(s) . Is this
not implemented in the 6300 or am I missing something obvious?

Thanks

Mike


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Re: [Flexradio] Question for all

[W1AEX - Rob]

Bill,

I use my Flex 5000A with an ALS-600 and the only time it ever faults is 
when I forget to manually set the amp's bandswitch to the correct 
frequency range. The first question I would ask is if you transmit into 
a 50 ohm dummy load does the amp behave correctly? Since you are using 
the Palstar antenna tuner I would assume there is no mismatch, but there 
is a possibility that you have RF feedback and an oscillation is causing 
the Flex to take off, which the amp will interpret as too much power 
appearing on its input. I'd be most suspicious of that scenario.


A second thought is that the ALS-600 doesn't need a whole lot of drive 
to make 600 watts PEP so I wonder if maybe you have a peak here and 
there that crosses the threshold that the fault circuit will tolerate. 
The ALC adjustments on the back panel and front panel of the ALS-600 
will have no effect since there is no ALC connection between the Flex 
and the amplifier.


Are you using the leveler in PowerSDR? Although it doesn't seem to work 
as effectively as a hardware limiter, it might help to control a rogue 
peak that sneaks through here and there. After a couple of years of 
using the native voice processing within PowerSDR I ended up running my 
station's external audio chain into the balanced input on the back 
panel. The last active element in the external audio chain is the 
compressor/limiter which I use to brick wall the audio peaks so that I 
can raise the average audio content much higher than is possible with 
the voice processing within PowerSDR. That approach has made a huge 
difference in the loudness of my signal with voice modes and has 
eliminated the excessive peaks here and there that used to show up and 
cause mischief. The ALS-600 seems very comfortable with this approach, 
and my AL-82 never flinches no matter what I pour into it with the Flex.


Good luck!

Rob W1AEX



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Re: [Flexradio] Question for all

[Russ Dearmore]

Bill,  I had this problem twice with my Alpha 8406 amp.  The first time was a 
bad used Alpha Delta coax switch I had picked up at the Plano Hamcom and the 
second time I was in a winter storm and the ice was essentially shorting out my 
beam.  When the weather breaks you may not have a problem at all.  If you are 
using an antenna switching relay the outside unit could be freezing up also.  
Just go through a substitution type troubleshooting procedure and I bet you 
find the problem pronto.    Russ K5ZZR 
  
My Heroes Wear Combat Boots!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


>
> From: William and Susan 
>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
>Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:31 AM
>Subject: [Flexradio] Question for all
>  
>
>Good morning to all
>I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp.  I can not load it properly 
>to  save my life.  As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to "Load Fault."  
>The AMP test well in a dummy load.  I know the flex 3000 does not have a ALC 
>connection and I have read and understand the article written that says we do 
>not need an alc connection as it is all done by small incremental drive 
>tuning.  But that does not help.  I have set the radio up as I have seen on u 
>tube, I have a good match with my antenna using my Palstar antenna tuner.  I 
>am very careful with all the mike gain settings.  
>I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have 
>changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams.  
>Is there any suggestions here??  I am fairly sure I have all settings 
>correctly.  I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops)  
>although I do not believe that to be the problem.
>Thanks 
>Bill the Bull    lol
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Re: [Flexradio] Question for all

[Mickey Baker]

According to the manual, this is likely caused either by high SWR or
overdriving the amp:

*If the reflected power exceeds 50 watts the power level should be reduced
until the reflected power indicated on the internal meter is 50 watts or
less on peaks. At approximately 75 watts of reflected power the internal
safety circuitry will disable the amplifier.*
SO, 1st, check your SWR.

Roll back "RF Power" - drive - and then gradually increase it until you're
seeing the rated output from the amp. Then stop. Details on page 15 of the
manual.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:31 AM, William and Susan  wrote:

> Good morning to all
> I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp.  I can not load it
> properly to  save my life.  As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to
> "Load Fault."  The AMP test well in a dummy load.  I know the flex 3000
> does not have a ALC connection and I have read and understand the article
> written that says we do not need an alc connection as it is all done by
> small incremental drive tuning.  But that does not help.  I have set the
> radio up as I have seen on u tube, I have a good match with my antenna
> using my Palstar antenna tuner.  I am very careful with all the mike gain
> settings.
> I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have
> changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams.
> Is there any suggestions here??  I am fairly sure I have all settings
> correctly.  I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops)
>  although I do not believe that to be the problem.
> Thanks
> Bill the Bulllol
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Re: [Flexradio] Question for all

[N9RO]

I ran an ALS-600 with a 5000 for a very short time but went back to my
AL-572.  The problem was NOT with the Flex, my antenna was just not a good
match without a tuner for the solid state amp.  The ALS-600 requires a very
low SWR or it will quickly go into fault.

73,
Tim  N9RO

-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
William and Susan
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:32 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Question for all

Good morning to all
I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp.  I can not load it
properly to  save my life.  As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to "Load
Fault."  The AMP test well in a dummy load.  I know the flex 3000 does not
have a ALC connection and I have read and understand the article written
that says we do not need an alc connection as it is all done by small
incremental drive tuning.  But that does not help.  I have set the radio up
as I have seen on u tube, I have a good match with my antenna using my
Palstar antenna tuner.  I am very careful with all the mike gain settings.  
I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have
changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams.  
Is there any suggestions here??  I am fairly sure I have all settings
correctly.  I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops)
although I do not believe that to be the problem.
Thanks 
Bill the Bulllol
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[Flexradio] Question for all

[William and Susan]

Good morning to all
I recently bought the Ameritron ALS 600 Auto Amp.  I can not load it properly 
to  save my life.  As soon as I start to transmit it jumps to "Load Fault."  
The AMP test well in a dummy load.  I know the flex 3000 does not have a ALC 
connection and I have read and understand the article written that says we do 
not need an alc connection as it is all done by small incremental drive tuning. 
 But that does not help.  I have set the radio up as I have seen on u tube, I 
have a good match with my antenna using my Palstar antenna tuner.  I am very 
careful with all the mike gain settings.  
I have gone into the back settings and I do see an ALC setting and I have 
changed them to recommended settings by the video and other Hams.  
Is there any suggestions here??  I am fairly sure I have all settings 
correctly.  I will change the antenna soon, (if the darn snow ever stops)  
although I do not believe that to be the problem.
Thanks 
Bill the Bulllol
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Re: [Flexradio] Question on buying a used 3000

[Lee Mushel]

Yes, Neal, my 3000 went back for this "whatever reason."  I don't think it 
was any Big Thing and I recall that when it got back to me I shook the radio 
and it "rattled."   To the credit of Flex they simply told me to open the 
case and identify the rattle source.   It turned out to be a surface mount 
resistor and I was able to identify it with the help of my Smart Tweezers. 
I was then asked to photograph a certain point and from that photo they 
determined that nothing was missing and the resistor must have been 
accidentally overlooked in the modification process.   End of story.   I was 
always pleased because they obviously had enough faith in my technical 
ability to assure that any problem could be identified "remotely."


But I would certainly like to add one point for the benefit of the "new 
comers" to the Flex Community who might not be aware of all of the rumors 
and unsubstantiated fears that something might be wrong with this, that or 
something else.   You can be sure that part of the Flex Owner Culture is the 
occasional rise of the fear that Engineering Change Orders for imagined 
upgrades or repairs of defect might have taken place in the past.   There 
have been an infinite number of postings on the reflectors covering these 
fears.   I don't think we have to go through this again!


73

Lee   K9WRU
- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Campbell" 

To: "John Paolucci" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question on buying a used 3000



John,

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

The only thing I remember is there was a preamp mod done right after the
radio was introduced, I think the preamp was too "hot" so it had to be
tamed a bit. Bit this was literally months after it was introduced so I
think you are okay!

Besides, if it isn't I am sure Flex will do it for you!





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Re: [Flexradio] Question on buying a used 3000

[Neal Campbell]

John,

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

The only thing I remember is there was a preamp mod done right after the
radio was introduced, I think the preamp was too "hot" so it had to be
tamed a bit. Bit this was literally months after it was introduced so I
think you are okay!

Besides, if it isn't I am sure Flex will do it for you!
73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC




On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:28 PM, John Paolucci  wrote:

> Is there any difference hardware-wise, or upgradability-wise in acquiring
> an older 3000, say, early 2010? Are there any models at a certain date,
> that had a hardware upgrade?
> John W7SDB
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[Flexradio] Question on buying a used 3000

[John Paolucci]

Is there any difference hardware-wise, or upgradability-wise in acquiring an 
older 3000, say, early 2010? Are there any models at a certain date, that had a 
hardware upgrade?
John W7SDB
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Re: [Flexradio] Question on newbie involvement with SDR and specifically FlexRadio

[Phil Cragg]

Hi Dave

I hope my experiences of SDR, and Flex in particular, might be of some
interest.

My station is not dissimilar to your proposed one I think: Flex 5000A (with
ATU), Tokyo Hy-Power linear 500w (out of 2 x 4CX250B), and relatively
restricted antennas. A HYGAIN 12AVQ 10/15/20m vertical mounted on the fence
in the back garden (yard) and a Hi Sierra motorised mobile loaded whip for
the other bands on the other end of the same fence with a few random
radials. Neither antenna is more than 6 feet off the ground. The computer is
an ancient Dell GX520 running XP - although that will have to upgrade to
Win7 come April when your Mr Gates stops supporting it - which also has to
serve as the main household PC for emails and the like. Brief spec of the
PC: Intel 4, 3.2GHz 4GB RAM. Hope that all sounds reasonably familiar?

First let me say I've been very pleased with my Flex which I bought I think
some 4 years ago - it was a very early one anyway. What I will say though is
that it's all been a very big learning curve, and in fact I still haven't
got to grips with all the possibilities and intricacies.  That in fact is
gripe number one. I feel the dealer really should have taken some time to go
through it with me, rather than simply process the payment and help me lift
it into the car. Youtube is your friend here, of course because while the
user manual is useful - indeed essential - for starting off it's now out of
date and I don't imagine it will be updated now in view of the arrival of
the 6000 series. So I didn't have an easy time in the early stages, and
often wished there was someone local I could speak to. Having said that it
was actually quite fun learning and there's a great satisfaction to be
gained when some obscure bit of computer-speak suddenly makes sense. You
will gather I'm not computer-savvy at all and a complete lack of
understanding of how SDR works didn't help :-). Apologies if I'm wrong but I
assume you have an association with CO State University there in Fort
Collins, and will not have the same problems accessing expertise...

RFI. Now there's something that's been a continuous source of annoyance and
indeed irritation. Not to the neighbours but to the wretched computer,
particularly when running the linear. It crashes (the PC, that is, not the
linear). Specifically at the moment on 18 MHz though it's not fussy. I've
bought up my local supplier's complete stock of ferrite - beads, clamps,
rings - you name it. Everything is earthed and linked to one point. The PC
is as far away as possible on the desk, but there's such an unavoidable
cat's cradle of wiring between all the items of equipment that not much
separation is possible. I suspect my particular problem would be solved if I
could get the antennas further away from the shack, but it's only a small
garden (yard). Something to bear in mind anyway. One other problem I did
have with a PC was when I bought a new one. The QRN from the power supply
unit wiped out the Flex. Cheap Chinese unit it turned out, so be aware.
Hence the old Dell with a nice quiet PSU.

There are no problems driving the linear. 50w in and 500w out (or rather 400
here in the UK). Depending on the current requirements of your particular
amplifier you might have to insert a relay between rig and amp. I had to do
this for an old locally made amp with a pair of 3-500Zs but not necessary
with the rather more modern HL1KGX I'm using now. Slightly puzzling to me is
that there's no ALC output from the Flex for the linear.

After sales service and support I've found to be first class. The two
support personnel I've dealt with - Dudley and Klaus - have been
unfaillingly patient with explaining some of my, mostly non-existent,
problems. One issue I have, but which won't affect you, is that the radio
has to be sent to Germany from the UK for service, as the franchised dealers
over here don't have repair facilities. The cost of sending it fully insured
wuld be prohibitive were it not for the help of the dealer who sent it for
me - at his risk. Still had to pay what I considered excessive carriage
charges though just for sending it to another counrtry.

Accessories.The only one I use is the SWR/PEP meter, just to keep an eye on
the antenna and not to exceed my licensed power out limit.

VERY IMPORTANT. Set up your audio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2trJjUObLkY There are others, but I found
this the most comprehensive. 

Dave I hope I haven't been too negative - that was not the intention at all.
There are lots of things I like about my Flex - the CW filtering makes it a
worthwhile buy all on its own - and the ease of use, and sheer
sophistication of the thing is a wonder to me. Wouldn't change it for the
worlds -other than for a 6500 which I can't afford :-(

Phil
G3UGK



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From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex

[Flexradio] Question on newbie involvement with SDR and specifically FlexRadio

[David Getzy]

Hi Folks,

This post originally went to the qrp reflector, with the intention of
posting here obviously as well.  Medical issues got in the way, and the post
was never sent to this list.  I've done a lot of research and got a
tremendous response from folks using FlexRadios on the qrp list, but I'd
like to hear the experience of folks on this specific FlexRadio list as
well.  Please feel free to respond on or offline, whatever you feel is most
appropriate and thanks in advance for any advice/information:

A couple of weeks ago, I posted a note requesting input from members of this
list about which FlexRadio would be best for a newbie to SDR to buy. I did
not want to commit to one of the newest radios, due to cost and
unfamiliarity with SDR at this point, although I am somewhat conversant with
computers, computer interfacing with radios, and not adverse to
"experimentation" and playing around with a system to get it working.

I subsequently ran into a significant medical issue that has kept me offline
for a couple of weeks since. First:

1. I want to thank all of you who replied to my original post, both online
and offline. I received a significant number of responses that gave me
great information on various perspectives of where I should start and what
radios to consider. Included were several individuals who had 5000s, and
were looking to sell them. Again, my apologies for not replying sooner, but
I have not been able to until now- but thanks so much for your
thoughts/philosophy and information on specific radios.

2. I feel that after doing my "homework" and from the information provided
in response to my initial query, I think that I have settled on looking for
a 5000 radio as a place to start. Most importantly from the responses, it
sounds as if Flex Radio is committed to continued service and firmware
updates of these radios for the foreseeable future- a veryt important issue
for me.

3. It does appear that there are individuals on this list, as well as on E
Bay, and various radio stores that still have 5000s new. I am not adverse
to purchasing a used radio that is in excellent condition and has the
features that I'm looking for (second receiver, transporter options, etc.).

4. My additional questions/requests:
A. Do you have a reason for strongly suggesting trying to find a new 5000
with appropriate options or finding the same radio used. Small cosmetic
defects are not an issue- large gashes or missing power transistors probably
not cool;-).

B. If you do have a 5000 with the options that I'm looking for and the
radio is in excellent working order, I'd be very interested in talking with
you (email offline, etc.). Please contact me at: dge...@gmail.com or
da...@getzy.org at your convenience.

C. Any other suggestions as to necessary (or just helpful) accessories to
consider with the radio, such as: Specific antennas that seem to work well
(I am in a relatively restricted/stealth type area, and so as much as I find
huge antennas aesthetically pleasing, I don't think that a tower is an
option;-), tuners, wattmeters/radio monitoring equipment, microphone or
other audio amplifier components, preamps, anything else?

D. Does anyone have experience running the 5000 series with a 500 watt
linear amp? I am currently using the Elecraft KAP500 and would like to try
and drive it with the 5000 if possible.

E. Any considerations for RFI issues- either produced by the radio or
interference to the radio- and suggestions for ferrite beads or any other
solutions if needed (I realize this is something that is fairly dependent on
my particular set up and will require me getting the radio on the air and
seeing if there are any problems that crop up).

F. I have a fairly decent desktop computer (PC/Windows based) that I put
together, and seems to have all of the requisites that are listed on the
FlexRadio site for computer systems that work well with Flex Radios.
Besides the general recommendations given, are there any other
considerations for components/accessories or anything else on the hardware
side of things to consider?

G. Anything else to consider relative to purchase and use of the 5000
series that I haven't covered (again, I realize I'll probably be able to be
more specific when I get things going in my own shack).

Thanks so much to all of you on this very knowledgeable and civil
reflector/list. Best regards to all.

Very 73s,

Dave, WS0D

Dr. David Getzy
Fort Collins, CO

Dr. David Getzy
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Re: [Flexradio] Question on 1500 and 5000 software install

[Eric Wachsmann]

Mike,

I honestly don't remember how we setup the installer for PowerSDR.  As a
developer I tend to check all the boxes so I can test everything here.  If
you want to be safe, I would go with the full uninstall/reinstall.  It
should preserve your database, so it shouldn't be a huge issue.


Eric


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Mike - KM0T  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am currently running version 2.6.4 with my 5000 and its running
> great.(also the 6500 on the same machine..its very cool)
>
>
>
> Now, I want to run my 1500 as well via the USB interface..and I don't
> recall
> if I installed the 1500 USB drivers when I did the install.
>
>
>
> Question, do I need to uninstall the 2.6.4 version and reinstall the whole
> package?   Or just re-run the 2.6.4 installer and will it ask to only
> install the 1500 drivers if they are not there.
>
>
>
> I don't want to just plug the 1500 in if the drivers are not installed, I
> know that can be an issue.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Mike - KM0T
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[Flexradio] Question on 1500 and 5000 software install

[Mike - KM0T]

Hi All,

 

I am currently running version 2.6.4 with my 5000 and its running
great.(also the 6500 on the same machine..its very cool)

 

Now, I want to run my 1500 as well via the USB interface..and I don't recall
if I installed the 1500 USB drivers when I did the install.

 

Question, do I need to uninstall the 2.6.4 version and reinstall the whole
package?   Or just re-run the 2.6.4 installer and will it ask to only
install the 1500 drivers if they are not there.

 

I don't want to just plug the 1500 in if the drivers are not installed, I
know that can be an issue.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

73

 

Mike - KM0T

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about Flex 5000 with second receiver. Receiver 2 antenna selection

[Mark Lunday]

Thanks, Paul.  So the amp is always in use for ANT 1, no matter what my
selection, and I can change that selection at any time.  Radio 2 then uses
the other selection.

Perfect!

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:paul.hamra...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:14 PM
To: 'Mark Lunday'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Question about Flex 5000 with second receiver.
Receiver 2 antenna selection


I wanted to do the same thing. I have 6 antennas. I purchased an Array
Solutions 6-Pack antenna switch. It allows you to connect any of the six
antennas to any TWO radios. So I have my amp between the Flex ANT1  jack and
the 6-Pack (Radio 1). Then I connect the 6-Pack (Radio 2) to the Flex RX2.
The six pack will not allow you to select the same antenna for both "radios"
(safety interlock) Now I can have any combination.

Later I added a MicroHam Station Master and now have fully automated antenna
selection and can manually override if necessary using the selector switches
on the 6-Pack 

Paul Delaney - K6HR
http://k6hr.dyndns.org:8080
 
 
-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mark
Lunday
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:47 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Flexradio] Question about Flex 5000 with second receiver. Receiver
2 antenna selection

On the antenna selection control, why is the receiver 2 limited to ANT 1,
RX2 IN and RX1 TAP? I am running into a config where I would like to be able
to use ANT 2 on RX 2 and ANT 3 on RX1 on 20 meters, but I can't do that.  If
I change antenna connections, then it messes with my config for 30 meters.

Just looking for some guidance/insight.  Thanks.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


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Re: [Flexradio] Question about Flex 5000 with second receiver. Receiver 2 antenna selection

[Paul]

I wanted to do the same thing. I have 6 antennas. I purchased an Array
Solutions 6-Pack antenna switch. It allows you to connect any of the six
antennas to any TWO radios. So I have my amp between the Flex ANT1  jack and
the 6-Pack (Radio 1). Then I connect the 6-Pack (Radio 2) to the Flex RX2.
The six pack will not allow you to select the same antenna for both "radios"
(safety interlock) Now I can have any combination.

Later I added a MicroHam Station Master and now have fully automated antenna
selection and can manually override if necessary using the selector switches
on the 6-Pack 

Paul Delaney - K6HR
http://k6hr.dyndns.org:8080
 
 
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From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mark
Lunday
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:47 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Flexradio] Question about Flex 5000 with second receiver. Receiver
2 antenna selection

On the antenna selection control, why is the receiver 2 limited to ANT 1,
RX2 IN and RX1 TAP? I am running into a config where I would like to be able
to use ANT 2 on RX 2 and ANT 3 on RX1 on 20 meters, but I can't do that.  If
I change antenna connections, then it messes with my config for 30 meters.

Just looking for some guidance/insight.  Thanks.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com


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[Flexradio] Question about Flex 5000 with second receiver. Receiver 2 antenna selection

[Mark Lunday]

On the antenna selection control, why is the receiver 2 limited to ANT 1,
RX2 IN and RX1 TAP? I am running into a config where I would like to be able
to use ANT 2 on RX 2 and ANT 3 on RX1 on 20 meters, but I can't do that.  If
I change antenna connections, then it messes with my config for 30 meters.

Just looking for some guidance/insight.  Thanks.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
wd4...@arrl.net
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about "0 Beat error"

[Bob Kay]

I did read the release notes and didn't see any specific mention about the
zero beat issue. That is why I posted the question. Where was it mentioned?

On Monday, April 15, 2013, Ernest Garcia wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Your question is answer on the letter that Tim send.  All the updates and
> issues that were resolve with this realease.  Hope you get a chance to see
> it.
>
> 73, Ernest  -  W4EG
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:48 -0400
> > From: wa2...@gmail.com 
> > To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz  'FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz');>
> > Subject: [Flexradio] Question about "0 Beat error"
> >
> > Great news to see a new release.
> > Just curious if a minor issue the previous version had was fixed with the
> > new release?
> >
> > Last week I went through the frequency calibration routine using WWV at
> 15
> > mhz, and verifying it with their 5 & 10 mhz channels.
> > Using the Phase scope method I was able to achieve a virtually stable
> > display, with very minimal rotation. This occurs when set to 15.000.000,
> as
> > it should
> >
> > Yet, if I intentionally tune slight off frequency and use the "0 Beat"
> > option on the desktop of PSDR, it consistently tunes to 15.000.003,
> > 10.000.003 and so on.
> > To me the error is insignificant, but I now there are some real sticklers
> > among us!
> > If I check this error with the Phase scope, indeed it's off. Manually
> > correcting to .000 stops the rotation.
> >
> > This evening I'll check the new version and compare.
> > --
> > *Best 73 de WA2SQQ
> > Elmwood Park, NJ
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about "0 Beat error"

[Ernest Garcia]

Bob, Your question is answer on the letter that Tim send.  All the updates and 
issues that were resolve with this realease.  Hope you get a chance to see it. 
73, Ernest  -  W4EG
 > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:33:48 -0400
> From: wa2...@gmail.com
> To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] Question about "0 Beat error"
> 
> Great news to see a new release.
> Just curious if a minor issue the previous version had was fixed with the
> new release?
> 
> Last week I went through the frequency calibration routine using WWV at 15
> mhz, and verifying it with their 5 & 10 mhz channels.
> Using the Phase scope method I was able to achieve a virtually stable
> display, with very minimal rotation. This occurs when set to 15.000.000, as
> it should
> 
> Yet, if I intentionally tune slight off frequency and use the "0 Beat"
> option on the desktop of PSDR, it consistently tunes to 15.000.003,
> 10.000.003 and so on.
> To me the error is insignificant, but I now there are some real sticklers
> among us!
> If I check this error with the Phase scope, indeed it's off. Manually
> correcting to .000 stops the rotation.
> 
> This evening I'll check the new version and compare.
> -- 
> *Best 73 de WA2SQQ
> Elmwood Park, NJ
> 
> "The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"*
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[Flexradio] Question about "0 Beat error"

[Bob Kay]

Great news to see a new release.
Just curious if a minor issue the previous version had was fixed with the
new release?

Last week I went through the frequency calibration routine using WWV at 15
mhz, and verifying it with their 5 & 10 mhz channels.
Using the Phase scope method I was able to achieve a virtually stable
display, with very minimal rotation. This occurs when set to 15.000.000, as
it should

Yet, if I intentionally tune slight off frequency and use the "0 Beat"
option on the desktop of PSDR, it consistently tunes to 15.000.003,
10.000.003 and so on.
To me the error is insignificant, but I now there are some real sticklers
among us!
If I check this error with the Phase scope, indeed it's off. Manually
correcting to .000 stops the rotation.

This evening I'll check the new version and compare.
-- 
*Best 73 de WA2SQQ
Elmwood Park, NJ

"The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"*
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Rm2642]

 
This may be off topic but, since  we’re talking RFI, EMI. It doesn’t 
matter what level noise blanker reduction, it  does nothing to reduce 
interference that I have centered at 21.076MHz (JT65 Weak  Signal band). Could 
this be 
arcing from brush and commutator of a motor?  The start up and shut down 
pattern are quite unique. Some  lines appear to be modulated with arcing. 
Scroll down to the last row  of photos to view this noise as seen on the 
waterfall here: 
http://n6paa.org/JT65_ WEAK_SIGNAL.php 
By the way, JT65 and PowerSDR,  great combination :) 
Ron 
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it toFlexRadio Digest, Vol 94, Issue 17

[py1ro]

 Hi Mark
 Don´t be surprised to find the sourse of your troubles outside the
perimeter of your home! I have just recently located and fixed two
white noise sources, the furthest one about 300' from the antenna.
Both were NOT hump type sources, they were white noise covering many
MHz all the way up to 6m (where they really bothered me) and beyond.
The hump type are also all over the place but so far none has affected
me directly, so I don´t bother with them. The sources I fixed were 1
- a BY built flourescent lamp reactor, 2 - a switching power supply of
a home security system.
 I have also experienced a 1 -2 KHz wide hump on 21.075/6 which looks
similar to the "regular" humps, but that one is generated inside the
Flex3K. It is still there when connected to a dummy load. Maybe the
Flex5K owner is looking at something similar.
 73 Rolf PY1RO
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Dale Boresz]

Mark,

I had the same problem about 2 years ago on 40m. I ultimately tracked it 
down by walking up and down the street with the FLEX-1500 powered by a 
gel cell, my laptop, and a 3' diameter magnetic loop tuned to the area 
of 40m visited by the 'hump'. The loop has an extremely sharp null 
perpendicular to the plane of the loop, so it made it easy to locate the 
source quickly.


The source ended up being a power supply in a neighbor's desktop 
computer, located about 300 feet away. I begged him to let me buy him a 
high quality replacement power supply, and said that I'd install it for 
him. He kindly accepted my offer, and the issue was resolved. The 
offending power supply was reduced to about 10% of it's original height, 
to assure that it could never be returned to service by anyone who may 
have pulled it from the trash.


Good luck w/ your investigations.

73, Dale
WA8SRA


On 2/20/2013 1:19 PM, Mark Lunday wrote:

Additional data - when I disconnect the antenna input, all is quiet.

  


On the hex beam, the noise is more pronounced when pointing west.

  


When I switch to the dipole that is running E/W and broadside N/S, the noise
drops by 10 dBm.

  


The HiZ 4 square receiving array has more noise when pointing NW directions
and is lowest when pointed SE.

  


Unfortunately, there are no houses within 500 feet to NW.  There ARE high
voltage power lines, but that does not make sense to have a point source
when the lines run from NW to N and NE of the house.

  


Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

Greensboro, NC  FM06be

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Mark Lunday]

Additional data - when I disconnect the antenna input, all is quiet.  

 

On the hex beam, the noise is more pronounced when pointing west.  

 

When I switch to the dipole that is running E/W and broadside N/S, the noise
drops by 10 dBm.  

 

The HiZ 4 square receiving array has more noise when pointing NW directions
and is lowest when pointed SE.

 

Unfortunately, there are no houses within 500 feet to NW.  There ARE high
voltage power lines, but that does not make sense to have a point source
when the lines run from NW to N and NE of the house.

 

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

Greensboro, NC  FM06be

wd4...@arrl.net

http://wd4elg.blogspot.com 

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Mark Lunday]

Ahh, I spoke too soon.  The noise IS there, I was looking in the wrong
place.  It moves.

 

It's there, 21095 to 21115, and slowly moving up in frequency, about 1 Khz a
minute.  And 21975 to 21995, approaching the CW portion of the 15 meter
band.  And 21225 to 21245.

 

Almost square waveform with three small peaks.one at each end and one in the
middle.  I tried unplugging all the wall wart switching PS, no luck yet.

 

On 12 meters, the noise is more spread out, over 30 kHz and not as strong.
It's there on 10, but spread out over 40 kHz.  

 

Present on 17 meters, 15 kHz wide square with two peaks.  On 20 it is 10 kHz
wide, but weaker than on 17.  No sign on 30 or 40, but I will check tonight.
Will keep searching in the house for the source.  What confounds me is that
the source moves.  If it was stationary it would make more sense to me.

 

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

Greensboro, NC  FM06be

wd4...@arrl.net

http://wd4elg.blogspot.com

 

From: Mark Lunday [mailto:wd4...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:17 AM
To: 'Bob McGwier'; 'Graham Haddock'
Cc: 'FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz'
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect
it to

 

Thanks, all.  I will do some research to find the power supply source.  The
interesting thing is that it is NOT present right now, 11:00 AM local.

 

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

Greensboro, NC  FM06be

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Mark Lunday]

Thanks, all.  I will do some research to find the power supply source.  The
interesting thing is that it is NOT present right now, 11:00 AM local.

 

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Burt]

Why is it my Flex 5000 picks up the camel hump in 160 meters but my 
Hallicrafters S-76 does not. Same antenna.
It is the wifi/modem

--- On Wed, 2/20/13, Graham Haddock  wrote:





Mark:

The "camel hump," as you call it, is the characteristic noise signature of
a switching power supply.  You will be much better off eliminating that at
its source
than you will be getting poor Bob to write a noise reduction routine to
reduce it
after it has already trashed the signal you want to listen to.

The usual suspects are:
     The wall wart running your WiFi base station.
     The wall wart running your cable modem.
     The rectangular in-line power supply running your laptop.
     The rectangular in-line power supply running your computer monitors.
     Any other wall warts or rectangular in-line power supplies running
stuff in your house.

There is an article in this month's QST describing how the little power
supply running the LED under-cabinet lighting in the kitchen was destroying
one ham's reception.

Good luck,
--- Graham / KE9H

==

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Mark Lunday  wrote:

> I don't normally use these.because of what happens.
>
> I have local conditions that are quiet (-130 dBm,  But I do have a few RFI
> sources (still to be located) which generate a 20 kHz wide "hilltop" of
> noise up to -115 dBm.  The noise looks like a camel hump on the panadapter,
> and is usually on the CW portion of the 15 meter band down low, and the 12
> meter CW portion as well.
>
> When I turn on NB1 to curb that "camel hump" because I want to hear weak
> signals that are affected in that 20 kHz segment, the entire noise floor
> drops including that "hump", but so do the signals to the point of being
> unreadable.  And if there is a strong signal above -115 dBm anywhere in the
> band, the noise floor pulses to that signal.especially if it is CW.  Which
> renders the NB1 effect useless.
>
> I see a similar but less pronounced behavior when using NB2.the "hump"
> drops
> a bit but the noise floor and signals do not drop (good, but not as good in
> eliminating the noise with NB1).but the entire band pulses if any CW
> signals
> above -115 dBm are present (obviously not good).
>
> Pre-amp has no impact.  Resetting database has no impact.
>
> Using Flex 3000, SDR 2.5.3.  I have noticed this in earlier versions of
> SDR,
> which is why I did not use the features.  But it has me wondering about
> it.and I would like to use it.
>
> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
> Greensboro, NC  FM06be
> wd4...@arrl.net
> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Bob McGwier]

Amen to all of this.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Graham Haddock wrote:

> Mark:
>
> The "camel hump," as you call it, is the characteristic noise signature of
> a switching power supply.  You will be much better off eliminating that at
> its source
> than you will be getting poor Bob to write a noise reduction routine to
> reduce it
> after it has already trashed the signal you want to listen to.
>
> The usual suspects are:
>  The wall wart running your WiFi base station.
>  The wall wart running your cable modem.
>  The rectangular in-line power supply running your laptop.
>  The rectangular in-line power supply running your computer monitors.
>  Any other wall warts or rectangular in-line power supplies running
> stuff in your house.
>
> There is an article in this month's QST describing how the little power
> supply running the LED under-cabinet lighting in the kitchen was destroying
> one ham's reception.
>
> Good luck,
> --- Graham / KE9H
>
> ==
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Mark Lunday  wrote:
>
>> I don't normally use these.because of what happens.
>>
>> I have local conditions that are quiet (-130 dBm,  But I do have a few RFI
>> sources (still to be located) which generate a 20 kHz wide "hilltop" of
>> noise up to -115 dBm.  The noise looks like a camel hump on the
>> panadapter,
>> and is usually on the CW portion of the 15 meter band down low, and the 12
>> meter CW portion as well.
>>
>> When I turn on NB1 to curb that "camel hump" because I want to hear weak
>> signals that are affected in that 20 kHz segment, the entire noise floor
>> drops including that "hump", but so do the signals to the point of being
>> unreadable.  And if there is a strong signal above -115 dBm anywhere in
>> the
>> band, the noise floor pulses to that signal.especially if it is CW.  Which
>> renders the NB1 effect useless.
>>
>> I see a similar but less pronounced behavior when using NB2.the "hump"
>> drops
>> a bit but the noise floor and signals do not drop (good, but not as good
>> in
>> eliminating the noise with NB1).but the entire band pulses if any CW
>> signals
>> above -115 dBm are present (obviously not good).
>>
>> Pre-amp has no impact.  Resetting database has no impact.
>>
>> Using Flex 3000, SDR 2.5.3.  I have noticed this in earlier versions of
>> SDR,
>> which is why I did not use the features.  But it has me wondering about
>> it.and I would like to use it.
>>
>> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
>> Greensboro, NC  FM06be
>> wd4...@arrl.net
>> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Graham Haddock]

Mark:

The "camel hump," as you call it, is the characteristic noise signature of
a switching power supply.  You will be much better off eliminating that at
its source
than you will be getting poor Bob to write a noise reduction routine to
reduce it
after it has already trashed the signal you want to listen to.

The usual suspects are:
 The wall wart running your WiFi base station.
 The wall wart running your cable modem.
 The rectangular in-line power supply running your laptop.
 The rectangular in-line power supply running your computer monitors.
 Any other wall warts or rectangular in-line power supplies running
stuff in your house.

There is an article in this month's QST describing how the little power
supply running the LED under-cabinet lighting in the kitchen was destroying
one ham's reception.

Good luck,
--- Graham / KE9H

==

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Mark Lunday  wrote:

> I don't normally use these.because of what happens.
>
> I have local conditions that are quiet (-130 dBm,  But I do have a few RFI
> sources (still to be located) which generate a 20 kHz wide "hilltop" of
> noise up to -115 dBm.  The noise looks like a camel hump on the panadapter,
> and is usually on the CW portion of the 15 meter band down low, and the 12
> meter CW portion as well.
>
> When I turn on NB1 to curb that "camel hump" because I want to hear weak
> signals that are affected in that 20 kHz segment, the entire noise floor
> drops including that "hump", but so do the signals to the point of being
> unreadable.  And if there is a strong signal above -115 dBm anywhere in the
> band, the noise floor pulses to that signal.especially if it is CW.  Which
> renders the NB1 effect useless.
>
> I see a similar but less pronounced behavior when using NB2.the "hump"
> drops
> a bit but the noise floor and signals do not drop (good, but not as good in
> eliminating the noise with NB1).but the entire band pulses if any CW
> signals
> above -115 dBm are present (obviously not good).
>
> Pre-amp has no impact.  Resetting database has no impact.
>
> Using Flex 3000, SDR 2.5.3.  I have noticed this in earlier versions of
> SDR,
> which is why I did not use the features.  But it has me wondering about
> it.and I would like to use it.
>
> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
> Greensboro, NC  FM06be
> wd4...@arrl.net
> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Bob McGwier]

Mark:
NB1 and NB2 are intended to aid mitigation of impulsive noise. NR is
intended to mitigate white noise. The hump does not fit what this (or most
any other radio) can do in its signal processing.
Bob
N4HY



On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Mark Lunday  wrote:

> I don't normally use these.because of what happens.
>
> I have local conditions that are quiet (-130 dBm,  But I do have a few RFI
> sources (still to be located) which generate a 20 kHz wide "hilltop" of
> noise up to -115 dBm.  The noise looks like a camel hump on the panadapter,
> and is usually on the CW portion of the 15 meter band down low, and the 12
> meter CW portion as well.
>
--- snip ---

>
> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
> Greensboro, NC  FM06be
> wd4...@arrl.net
> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
>
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[Flexradio] Question about NB1 and NB2, not working as I expect it to

[Mark Lunday]

I don't normally use these.because of what happens.  

I have local conditions that are quiet (-130 dBm,  But I do have a few RFI
sources (still to be located) which generate a 20 kHz wide "hilltop" of
noise up to -115 dBm.  The noise looks like a camel hump on the panadapter,
and is usually on the CW portion of the 15 meter band down low, and the 12
meter CW portion as well.

When I turn on NB1 to curb that "camel hump" because I want to hear weak
signals that are affected in that 20 kHz segment, the entire noise floor
drops including that "hump", but so do the signals to the point of being
unreadable.  And if there is a strong signal above -115 dBm anywhere in the
band, the noise floor pulses to that signal.especially if it is CW.  Which
renders the NB1 effect useless. 

I see a similar but less pronounced behavior when using NB2.the "hump" drops
a bit but the noise floor and signals do not drop (good, but not as good in
eliminating the noise with NB1).but the entire band pulses if any CW signals
above -115 dBm are present (obviously not good).

Pre-amp has no impact.  Resetting database has no impact.

Using Flex 3000, SDR 2.5.3.  I have noticed this in earlier versions of SDR,
which is why I did not use the features.  But it has me wondering about
it.and I would like to use it.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
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Re: [Flexradio] Question

[Ernest Garcia]

Tim, George and Flexers, George replied cure my problem.   IT WAS NOT A FLEX 
RADIO PROBLEM The USB ports were disabled.  Why?  Beats the heck out of me.  
guess that Mrs. Window 7 did not want me to use the radio. Thanks for the quick 
reply George - 73 Ernest - W4EG  From: geo...@gloria.us
To: w...@hotmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Question
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:30:25 -0700

Try going to Windows device manager and looking at the USB ports.  I have had a 
situation where the ports were disabled...for some unknown reason.  I 
re-enabled them and all worked again.
I had another problem where  enabling the ports didn't work.  Based on comments 
from Gerald, I deleted the driver and let Windows install the driver again, 
that worked.
GeorgeK2CM




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Subject: [Flexradio] Question

From: Ernest Garcia 

Date: Wed, January 30, 2013 2:22 pm

To: flexradio 



Wonder if the brains in this forum can help me with the following problem:Using 
PDSR 2.5 since it was released with no problems what so ever.  However, the 
last 2 days I am receiving the following error message: "PDSR - Com5 stopped 
working" - "To disable message, select COMMS page in the Program Options and 
Uncheck - Display time out warning."  I have Google, ask Bing, search Win7 for 
solution.  So far I have not found where to perform this on the program 
options. Thanks for any lead that you may have; to solve this computer problem. 
73, Ernest   

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Re: [Flexradio] Question

[Tim Ellison]

That does not look like a PowerSDR error message.  Are you using DDUtil?

Tim Ellison
On 1/30/2013 4:22 PM, Ernest Garcia wrote:

Wonder if the brains in this forum can help me with the following problem:Using PDSR 2.5 since it 
was released with no problems what so ever.  However, the last 2 days I am receiving the following 
error message: "PDSR - Com5 stopped working" - "To disable message, select COMMS 
page in the Program Options and Uncheck - Display time out warning."  I have Google, ask Bing, 
search Win7 for solution.  So far I have not found where to perform this on the program options. 
Thanks for any lead that you may have; to solve this computer problem. 73, Ernest   
  
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Re: [Flexradio] Question

[Mike WA8BXN]

You might look for such a setting in other programs you are using with PSDR 

 

73 - Mike WA8BXN 

 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Ernest Garcia 

Date: 01/30/13 16:23:16 

To: flexradio 

Subject: [Flexradio] Question 

 

Wonder if the brains in this forum can help me with the following
problem:Using PDSR 2.5 since it was released with no problems what so ever.
However, the last 2 days I am receiving the following error message: "PDSR -
Com5 stopped working" - "To disable message, select COMMS page in the
Program Options and Uncheck - Display time out warning." I have Google, ask
Bing, search Win7 for solution. So far I have not found where to perform
this on the program options. Thanks for any lead that you may have; to solve
this computer problem. 73, Ernest 

 

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[Flexradio] Question

[Ernest Garcia]

Wonder if the brains in this forum can help me with the following problem:Using 
PDSR 2.5 since it was released with no problems what so ever.  However, the 
last 2 days I am receiving the following error message: "PDSR - Com5 stopped 
working" - "To disable message, select COMMS page in the Program Options and 
Uncheck - Display time out warning."  I have Google, ask Bing, search Win7 for 
solution.  So far I have not found where to perform this on the program 
options. Thanks for any lead that you may have; to solve this computer problem. 
73, Ernest   
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[Flexradio] Question about 160 meters and separate preamps with FlexRadios

[Mark Lunday]

I am using a HiZ 4 square receiving antenna on 160 meters.  I have a pre-amp
in line at the control box in the center of the four verticals.  I am using
a Flex 3000.

Question - is anyone else using a pre-amp in this situation?  Am I wasting
my time and/or raising the noise floor for no reason?  Is anyone else using
a pre-amp with their Flex on 160? 

I am wondering..only because the Flex 3000 seems to be a really great
receiver unit for me, and I want to be able to hear the weak signals on 160.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about 6 meters receive

[Brian Lloyd]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Mark Lunday  wrote:

> I am seeing strong CW signals have a reflection or ghost image, Is there
> anything I can do to eliminate this?
>

Terminate and relaunch PowerSDR. That should make the problem go away for
awhile. It helps a lot if the radio has a strong signal to calibrate WBIR
against otherwise it ends up with compromised image rejection. Typically 6m
doesn't have a lot of strong signals so WBIR can get lost in the weeds.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about 6 meters receive

[radioart]

Yeah,

I saw the same ghost image on a CW signal on my 5000A on the second receiver 
last night  The signal wasn't that strong either, maybe S-6 and the ghost 
was S-2

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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Lunday" 
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:29:27 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Question about 6 meters receive

I am seeing strong CW signals have a reflection or ghost image, Is there
anything I can do to eliminate this?

SDR 2.2.3, Flex 3000, Pre2 on.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
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[Flexradio] Question about 6 meters receive

[Mark Lunday]

I am seeing strong CW signals have a reflection or ghost image, Is there
anything I can do to eliminate this?

SDR 2.2.3, Flex 3000, Pre2 on.

Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC  FM06be
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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Lester Veenstra]

Jim:

Thanks   That is what I shall do

   73

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

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Bert:
 Thanks
 Les

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Jim Jannuzzo]

Lester,You will definitely want DDutil between the Flex and your THP amp.  In 
addition to auto band control, you will probably want DDutil's Autodrive 
functionality. The 5K does not use voltage control ALC, which is not 
necessarily a bad thing.  DDutil can set the 5K power level by band, so that 
you don't inadvertantly use full power into the THP.   

>From what I see on the DDutil Yahoo forum, many people use DDu between the 5k 
>and their THP.DDu also acts as the traffic cop, or mediator, between all 
>the things that need control from the Flex, or try to control the Flex.  I use 
>it for the Flex to control and be controlled by a SteppIR antenna, an Expert 
>amp, a rotor, a Flex Knob, and several software loggers and digital programs.  
> It also sets up my PowerSDR display and modes by band segments.
 It does not yet remotely start the morning coffee, but that may happen one 
day.

Jim KJ2P 
 > From: les...@veenstras.com
> To: cdon...@comcast.net; jefland...@comcast.net
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 21:24:16 +0100
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> Chuck:
> Yes, RS-232 ports are do-able. It's the parallel ports that less.
> Actually, I do see them on some of the more recent systems, on the CPU
> board, but no connection/no connector on the case.
> 
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> DDUtil will emulate the Kenwood protocol to a RS-232 port if you have one. 
> That's what I use.
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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Bret Mills]

Hi Lester,
I am sure that DDUTIL can be used for running the Amp as I have seen
it as one of the options under the amp tab if I remember correrctly.


It WILL also run the ICOM interface at least for the AT-Auto antenna
tuner which I run here using the ICOM CI-V interface using a CHEEP
Radio Shack USB Scanner programing cable.
Read this
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DDUtil/message/949

ALSO read this about the ALC
http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50322.aspx

Hope this helps

Bret
WX7Y


On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Lester Veenstra  wrote:
> Chuck:
>    Yes, RS-232 ports are do-able. It's the parallel ports that less.
> Actually, I do see them on some of the more recent systems, on the CPU
> board, but no connection/no connector on the case.
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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Lester Veenstra]

Chuck:
Yes, RS-232 ports are do-able. It's the parallel ports that less.
Actually, I do see them on some of the more recent systems, on the CPU
board, but no connection/no connector on the case.

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DDUtil will emulate the Kenwood protocol to a RS-232 port if you have one. 
That's what I use.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Lester Veenstra]

There are three email address in my signature block, in addition to the flex
email reflector route.
Do you need more ways to reach me?

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

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Prior to responding we need to know how to reach you :^)

-Original Message- 
From: Lester Veenstra

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:33 PM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

Question while waiting in a new Flex 5000

What provisions does it have to control the frequency of an HPA,
specifically  a Tokyo HL-1.5KFX?



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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Chuck ONeal]

DDUtil will emulate the Kenwood protocol to a RS-232 port if you have one. 
That's what I use.


Chuck ONeal  K1KW

- Original Message - 
From: "Lester Veenstra" 

To: "'Jerry Flanders'" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting


Jerry:
Thanks; No parallel port, and no BCD. The THP amps expect a Yeasu/Icom or
Kenwood to control, so the FLEX will need to emulate one of those
interfaces.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Jerry Flanders]

If you are not willing to use an intermediate 
control program, then NO - you probably can't control it.


But others have probably used your amp with Flex - check the archives.

BTW, you can buy a plug-in card to provide both 
serial and parallel ports in most desktop computers.


GL

Jerry W4UK

At 03:42 PM 5/31/2012, Lester Veenstra wrote:

Jerry:
 Thanks; No parallel port, and no BCD. The THP amps expect a Yeasu/Icom or
Kenwood to control, so the FLEX will need to emulate one of those
interfaces.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Lester Veenstra]

Jerry:
 Thanks; No parallel port, and no BCD. The THP amps expect a Yeasu/Icom or
Kenwood to control, so the FLEX will need to emulate one of those
interfaces.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Jerry Flanders]

Many of us use DDUTIL to determine what band the 
5000 is on and send out a BCD code to a parallel 
port interfaced to the bandswitch on our amp. If 
your amp can be controlled from a BCD ttl signal, 
you can use DDUTIL in this way after making up a cable.


Jerry W4UK


At 03:33 PM 5/31/2012, you wrote:

Question while waiting in a new Flex 5000

What provisions does it have to control the frequency of an HPA,
specifically  a Tokyo HL-1.5KFX?



Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM/8



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[Flexradio] Question while waiting

[Lester Veenstra]

Question while waiting in a new Flex 5000

What provisions does it have to control the frequency of an HPA,
specifically  a Tokyo HL-1.5KFX?

 

Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM/8

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  m0...@veenstras.com

  k1...@veenstras.com

 

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PSC 45 Box 781

APO AE 09468 USA

 

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Keyser WV 26726

 

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Norwood, Harrogate

HG3 1SD, UK

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Brett Gazdzinski]

But then you should be running virus and malware protection, and getting 
Microsoft updates all the time, which seems likely to impact psdr.


Brett

- Original Message - 
From: "Ross Stenberg" 

To: "William H. Fite" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind


I don't bother with Gboost because as my post noted the PC runs flawlessly 
either way, and yes I Email and surf while using the radio.


On 12/6/2011 9:20 AM, William H. Fite wrote:

GBoost will do exactly what it says it will do.  The problem is that
when you are checking an email while working the radio (as I think
most of us probably do) or some guy on the other end mentions a
product and you google  on it, suddenly GBoost will decide it knows
what's best for you and shut your stuff down.  I tried it with my
previous game-but-lame Gateway and found it totally unsatisfactory
just for that reason.  I will decide what I want to run and when,
thank you VERY much.

(A little cranky today; not sure why.)

On 12/6/11, Ross Stenberg  wrote:

GBoost does a nice job of doing most of what you ask for on demand. It
will even shut down your browser and Email if it is running when it's
enabled. Frankly the the only difference I note on my not so special
"store bought PC" is a a few percentage points of CPU usagesay from
10% usage to 8%. It runs flawlessly either way and the DPCs don't seem
to change at all. I think you hit the point of diminishing returns once
you start using 4 core and above machines for our typical SDR and
ancillary program usage.

On 12/5/2011 6:09 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:

A little further thought and questions on this. Assuming I do this,
what all would you "strip" from Windows on the "radio" drive and what
kind of other stuff besides the obvious radio programs would you
add.   I would think there would be no need for any type of E-mail or
even a web browser either for that matter.  Virus protection? I don't
really think  it's needed since the only online connections I would
make while on that system would be to DX clusters or possibly reverse
beacon networks and that type of stuff.  I have an Nvidia video card
and I'm pretty sure it's drivers are shooting up my DPC's sometime. I
would think the most basic Windows generic video and audio drivers
would work.  The point would be to make as lean and mean an OS as
possible on the "radio" drive just as someone would do with a stand
alone Flex dedicated machine so what type of stuff would you remove
and/or add? Also, since I only have 3GB of RAM GB, there is no
advantage to making the OS 64 bit is there?  I'm running 32 right now.
Thanks,
Michael, W4HIJ




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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Brian Lloyd]

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:20 AM, William H. Fite  wrote:

> GBoost will do exactly what it says it will do.  The problem is that
> when you are checking an email while working the radio (as I think
> most of us probably do) or some guy on the other end mentions a
> product and you google  on it, suddenly GBoost will decide it knows
> what's best for you and shut your stuff down.  I tried it with my
> previous game-but-lame Gateway and found it totally unsatisfactory
> just for that reason.  I will decide what I want to run and when,
> thank you VERY much.
>

I agree. Gboost insists on shutting down my NTP client so the clock doesn't
stay synchronized for WSPR. I find it annoying to have to turn off Gboost
to sync the clock then turn it back on again. Manually turning off services
using the services control panel, disabling the CPU power saving features,
and disabling paging, is a bit more complex on the front side but works
just fine all the time thereafter.

So Gboost needs an exclusion function for services that you want to stay
running.

But since my machine runs adequately well without Gboost, I have removed it.


>
> (A little cranky today; not sure why.)
>

Clearly you are not getting enough egg nog.

And speaking of egg nog, do you really prefer sour-mash to a good rum in
your egg nog? After all, it was originally called egg grog (the 'grog'
being shortened to 'nog', probably by someone who had had more than enough
egg grog), and grog is rum. (BTW, notice I used the word 'good' as an
adjective for rum, not 'Bacardi'.) I am thinking of something like a good
30-year-old Cuban Añejo.

I wonder just how many ways we can morph a radio or computer thread into an
egg nog thread this holiday season? This strikes me as a challenge worthy
of all.

Last night, as I was trying to dig out a weak Thor signal on 80m my wife
brought me a glass of egg nog ...

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Ross Stenberg]

I don't bother with Gboost because as my post noted the PC runs 
flawlessly either way, and yes I Email and surf while using the radio.


On 12/6/2011 9:20 AM, William H. Fite wrote:

GBoost will do exactly what it says it will do.  The problem is that
when you are checking an email while working the radio (as I think
most of us probably do) or some guy on the other end mentions a
product and you google  on it, suddenly GBoost will decide it knows
what's best for you and shut your stuff down.  I tried it with my
previous game-but-lame Gateway and found it totally unsatisfactory
just for that reason.  I will decide what I want to run and when,
thank you VERY much.

(A little cranky today; not sure why.)

On 12/6/11, Ross Stenberg  wrote:

GBoost does a nice job of doing most of what you ask for on demand. It
will even shut down your browser and Email if it is running when it's
enabled. Frankly the the only difference I note on my not so special
"store bought PC" is a a few percentage points of CPU usagesay from
10% usage to 8%. It runs flawlessly either way and the DPCs don't seem
to change at all. I think you hit the point of diminishing returns once
you start using 4 core and above machines for our typical SDR and
ancillary program usage.

On 12/5/2011 6:09 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:

A little further thought and questions on this. Assuming I do this,
what all would you "strip" from Windows on the "radio" drive and what
kind of other stuff besides the obvious radio programs would you
add.   I would think there would be no need for any type of E-mail or
even a web browser either for that matter.  Virus protection? I don't
really think  it's needed since the only online connections I would
make while on that system would be to DX clusters or possibly reverse
beacon networks and that type of stuff.  I have an Nvidia video card
and I'm pretty sure it's drivers are shooting up my DPC's sometime. I
would think the most basic Windows generic video and audio drivers
would work.  The point would be to make as lean and mean an OS as
possible on the "radio" drive just as someone would do with a stand
alone Flex dedicated machine so what type of stuff would you remove
and/or add? Also, since I only have 3GB of RAM GB, there is no
advantage to making the OS 64 bit is there?  I'm running 32 right now.
Thanks,
Michael, W4HIJ




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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[William H. Fite]

GBoost will do exactly what it says it will do.  The problem is that
when you are checking an email while working the radio (as I think
most of us probably do) or some guy on the other end mentions a
product and you google  on it, suddenly GBoost will decide it knows
what's best for you and shut your stuff down.  I tried it with my
previous game-but-lame Gateway and found it totally unsatisfactory
just for that reason.  I will decide what I want to run and when,
thank you VERY much.

(A little cranky today; not sure why.)

On 12/6/11, Ross Stenberg  wrote:
> GBoost does a nice job of doing most of what you ask for on demand. It
> will even shut down your browser and Email if it is running when it's
> enabled. Frankly the the only difference I note on my not so special
> "store bought PC" is a a few percentage points of CPU usagesay from
> 10% usage to 8%. It runs flawlessly either way and the DPCs don't seem
> to change at all. I think you hit the point of diminishing returns once
> you start using 4 core and above machines for our typical SDR and
> ancillary program usage.
>
> On 12/5/2011 6:09 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:
>> A little further thought and questions on this. Assuming I do this,
>> what all would you "strip" from Windows on the "radio" drive and what
>> kind of other stuff besides the obvious radio programs would you
>> add.   I would think there would be no need for any type of E-mail or
>> even a web browser either for that matter.  Virus protection? I don't
>> really think  it's needed since the only online connections I would
>> make while on that system would be to DX clusters or possibly reverse
>> beacon networks and that type of stuff.  I have an Nvidia video card
>> and I'm pretty sure it's drivers are shooting up my DPC's sometime. I
>> would think the most basic Windows generic video and audio drivers
>> would work.  The point would be to make as lean and mean an OS as
>> possible on the "radio" drive just as someone would do with a stand
>> alone Flex dedicated machine so what type of stuff would you remove
>> and/or add? Also, since I only have 3GB of RAM GB, there is no
>> advantage to making the OS 64 bit is there?  I'm running 32 right now.
>> Thanks,
>> Michael, W4HIJ
>>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Ross Stenberg]

GBoost does a nice job of doing most of what you ask for on demand. It 
will even shut down your browser and Email if it is running when it's 
enabled. Frankly the the only difference I note on my not so special 
"store bought PC" is a a few percentage points of CPU usagesay from 
10% usage to 8%. It runs flawlessly either way and the DPCs don't seem 
to change at all. I think you hit the point of diminishing returns once 
you start using 4 core and above machines for our typical SDR and 
ancillary program usage.


On 12/5/2011 6:09 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:
A little further thought and questions on this. Assuming I do this, 
what all would you "strip" from Windows on the "radio" drive and what 
kind of other stuff besides the obvious radio programs would you 
add.   I would think there would be no need for any type of E-mail or 
even a web browser either for that matter.  Virus protection? I don't 
really think  it's needed since the only online connections I would 
make while on that system would be to DX clusters or possibly reverse 
beacon networks and that type of stuff.  I have an Nvidia video card 
and I'm pretty sure it's drivers are shooting up my DPC's sometime. I 
would think the most basic Windows generic video and audio drivers 
would work.  The point would be to make as lean and mean an OS as 
possible on the "radio" drive just as someone would do with a stand 
alone Flex dedicated machine so what type of stuff would you remove 
and/or add? Also, since I only have 3GB of RAM GB, there is no 
advantage to making the OS 64 bit is there?  I'm running 32 right now.

Thanks,
Michael, W4HIJ




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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[John Swink]

I have a Nvidia video card on my 2 year old Dell and had been experiencing
high DPC latency lately.  I installed the most current Nvidia driver and was
amazed at the improvement in performance.  I then updated other drivers but
none affected the performance to the same extent.

73,
John, N8WNA

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Michael Tondee
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:09 PM
Cc: FlexRadio reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind

A little further thought and questions on this. Assuming I do this, what all
would you "strip" from Windows on the "radio" drive and what kind of 
other stuff besides the obvious radio programs would you add.   I would 
think there would be no need for any type of E-mail or even a web browser
either for that matter.  Virus protection? I don't really think it's needed
since the only online connections I would make while on that system would be
to DX clusters or possibly reverse beacon networks and that type of stuff.
I have an Nvidia video card and I'm pretty sure it's drivers are shooting up
my DPC's sometime. I would think the most basic Windows generic video and
audio drivers would work.  The point would be to make as lean and mean an OS
as possible on the "radio" drive just as someone would do with a stand alone
Flex dedicated machine so what type of stuff would you remove and/or add?
Also, since I only have 3GB of RAM GB, there is no advantage to making the
OS 64 bit is there?  
I'm running 32 right now.
Thanks,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 12/4/2011 5:30 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Michael Tondee 
> mailto:mat...@netcommander.com>> wrote:
>
> This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had
> several times but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's
> possible to do two installs of the same OS, each on separate hard
> drives?
>  I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but
> never with the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each
> 500GB and one is basically just sitting there. I always had plans
> to put a system image on it but never have.
>  All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a
> lean mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio
> use has caused the following what if...
> What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives
> and was able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I
> could keep all my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive
> and all my ham stuff on the other.
>  Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's
> even possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license
> agreements and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to
> know if it's even a feasible idea at this point.
>
>
> No reason why it shouldn't work. And since it is the same hardware, no 
> need for 2nd license.
>
> --
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> Cameron Park, CA 95682
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Michael Tondee]

A little further thought and questions on this. Assuming I do this, what 
all would you "strip" from Windows on the "radio" drive and what kind of 
other stuff besides the obvious radio programs would you add.   I would 
think there would be no need for any type of E-mail or even a web 
browser either for that matter.  Virus protection? I don't really think  
it's needed since the only online connections I would make while on that 
system would be to DX clusters or possibly reverse beacon networks and 
that type of stuff.  I have an Nvidia video card and I'm pretty sure 
it's drivers are shooting up my DPC's sometime. I would think the most 
basic Windows generic video and audio drivers would work.  The point 
would be to make as lean and mean an OS as possible on the "radio" drive 
just as someone would do with a stand alone Flex dedicated machine so 
what type of stuff would you remove and/or add? Also, since I only have 
3GB of RAM GB, there is no advantage to making the OS 64 bit is there?  
I'm running 32 right now.

Thanks,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 12/4/2011 5:30 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Michael Tondee 
mailto:mat...@netcommander.com>> wrote:


This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had
several times but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's
possible to do two installs of the same OS, each on separate hard
drives?
 I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but
never with the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each
500GB and one is basically just sitting there. I always had plans
to put a system image on it but never have.
 All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a
lean mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio
use has caused the following what if...
What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives
and was able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I
could keep all my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive
and all my ham stuff on the other.
 Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's
even possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license
agreements and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to
know if it's even a feasible idea at this point.


No reason why it shouldn't work. And since it is the same hardware, no 
need for 2nd license.


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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Brian Lloyd]

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Brett Gazdzinski <
brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net> wrote:

> What I cant figure out is why the cpu usage jumps between 2% and 18 % with
> nothing running, not even psdr.
> Resource monitor shows idle system processes, or crss (or something like
> that) using the cpu.
> So its working at being idle?
>

Do you have any idea just how much stuff is running in there when it is
"idle"? Just start the task manager, switch to processes, and look at all
the crap that Microsoft has running in there. It boggles the mind.

And of course that impacts PowerSDR and everything else. When one task is
running, others are impacted. Multiple cores split up the load but
eventually when you have enough crap in there vying for CPU time,
everything is going to be impacted.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Brett Gazdzinski]

I have been having fun playing with my new computer, digging into windows 7 
and turning stuff off and deleting all sorts of stuff. Just for fun, not 
because I need to.

Reminds me of my windows 3.1 video game days.
I went in services and changed a lot of stuff to manual or disabled, even 
down to all the internet and Ethernet stuff.
I think I have everything turned off that can be turned off and still have 
the computer run psdr, and I do not see a bit of difference.


What I cant figure out is why the cpu usage jumps between 2% and 18 % with 
nothing running, not even psdr.
Resource monitor shows idle system processes, or crss (or something like 
that) using the cpu.

So its working at being idle?

It seems to me, that most of the stuff windows loads does not seem to impact 
psdr.
Just talking about basic windows stuff, not the extra stuff most companies 
load on, or virus protection, etc.


When running psdr, it seems only one core out of four is doing much, very 
little of the 4 gig of memory is being used, but I suspect the video system 
could be better, not that it impacts radio operation.
It was the same on the slow computer, poor video system more then a windows 
issue.


I like a stable system, so the radio computer is not hooked up to the web.
There is no need, I have other computers to do web stuff, old laptops that 
can crash and burn without it being a big deal.


The dual systems in one box seems clever though, I used to use boot manager 
way back, to set the memory up for each game, used to have a few hard drives 
in the box, one to hold the OS, one for the other stuff.


Brett
N2DTS






- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Tondee" 

To: "FlexRadio reflector" 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:24 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind


This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had several times 
but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's possible to do two 
installs of the same OS, each on separate hard drives?
 I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but never with 
the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each 500GB and one is 
basically just sitting there. I always had plans to put a system image on 
it but never have.
 All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a lean 
mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio use has caused 
the following what if...
What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives and was 
able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I could keep all 
my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive and all my ham stuff on 
the other.
 Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's even 
possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license agreements 
and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to know if it's even a 
feasible idea at this point.
 Just trying to think out of the box since I cannot afford two PC's for my 
own personal use at this point.

73,
Michael, W4HIJ


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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Jim fuller - N7VR]

You press F8 at boot up and Select the one you wish to boot.
I do this quit often on my work computers for development.
As long as the Drives are the same size licensing does not become an issue. 

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Michael Tondee
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:41 PM
To: Brian Lloyd
Cc: FlexRadio reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind

Would I get some type of boot selection screen at startup?  I think I did
before when I had different OS's installed but it's been long ago and I
don't recall for sure. I guess I can try it and see. All it will cost is the
time to do so.
Michael


On 12/4/2011 5:30 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Michael Tondee 
> mailto:mat...@netcommander.com>> wrote:
>
> This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had
> several times but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's
> possible to do two installs of the same OS, each on separate hard
> drives?
>  I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but
> never with the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each
> 500GB and one is basically just sitting there. I always had plans
> to put a system image on it but never have.
>  All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a
> lean mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio
> use has caused the following what if...
> What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives
> and was able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I
> could keep all my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive
> and all my ham stuff on the other.
>  Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's
> even possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license
> agreements and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to
> know if it's even a feasible idea at this point.
>
>
> No reason why it shouldn't work. And since it is the same hardware, no 
> need for 2nd license.
>
> --
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> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Tom Brown N4TAB]

There is another approach that works well and doesn't require a second 
computer or a second OS.


AlacrityPC http://alacritypc.kensalter.com/ . It's donationware.  Works 
really well (at least under XP). When I start PowerSDR, Alacrity shuts 
off all of the services and applications that I elected, compacts memory 
and I'm off to the races.  When I shut down PowerSDR. it restores the 
services and applications.  Takes about 15 minutes to se-up and it 
really works well.  I learned about AlacrityPC on a Flex forum 3-4 years 
ago.


73,

Tom N4TAB



On 12/4/2011 5:40 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:
Would I get some type of boot selection screen at startup?  I think I 
did before when I had different OS's installed but it's been long ago 
and I don't recall for sure. I guess I can try it and see. All it will 
cost is the time to do so.

Michael


On 12/4/2011 5:30 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Michael Tondee 
mailto:mat...@netcommander.com>> wrote:


This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had
several times but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's
possible to do two installs of the same OS, each on separate hard
drives?
 I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but
never with the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each
500GB and one is basically just sitting there. I always had plans
to put a system image on it but never have.
 All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a
lean mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio
use has caused the following what if...
What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives
and was able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I
could keep all my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive
and all my ham stuff on the other.
 Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's
even possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license
agreements and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to
know if it's even a feasible idea at this point.


No reason why it shouldn't work. And since it is the same hardware, 
no need for 2nd license.


--
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3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
br...@lloyd.com 
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Michael Tondee]

Would I get some type of boot selection screen at startup?  I think I 
did before when I had different OS's installed but it's been long ago 
and I don't recall for sure. I guess I can try it and see. All it will 
cost is the time to do so.

Michael


On 12/4/2011 5:30 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Michael Tondee 
mailto:mat...@netcommander.com>> wrote:


This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had
several times but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's
possible to do two installs of the same OS, each on separate hard
drives?
 I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but
never with the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each
500GB and one is basically just sitting there. I always had plans
to put a system image on it but never have.
 All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a
lean mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio
use has caused the following what if...
What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives
and was able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I
could keep all my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive
and all my ham stuff on the other.
 Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's
even possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license
agreements and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to
know if it's even a feasible idea at this point.


No reason why it shouldn't work. And since it is the same hardware, no 
need for 2nd license.


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Re: [Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Brian Lloyd]

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:

> This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had several times
> but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's possible to do two
> installs of the same OS, each on separate hard drives?
>  I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but never with
> the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each 500GB and one is
> basically just sitting there. I always had plans to put a system image on
> it but never have.
>  All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a lean
> mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio use has caused
> the following what if...
> What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives and was
> able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I could keep all my
> daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive and all my ham stuff on the
> other.
>  Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's even
> possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license agreements and
> how Microthief might look at it, I just want to know if it's even a
> feasible idea at this point.
>

No reason why it shouldn't work. And since it is the same hardware, no need
for 2nd license.

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[Flexradio] Question about multiple OS of the same kind....

[Michael Tondee]

This one may be a little out there, it's a thought I've had several 
times but have never asked about.  I don't suppose it's possible to do 
two installs of the same OS, each on separate hard drives?
 I think I did this once with different versions of Windows but never 
with the same one.  I have two hard drives in my PC, each 500GB and one 
is basically just sitting there. I always had plans to put a system 
image on it but never have.
 All the talk that comes up every once in awhile about creating a lean 
mean stripped down machine strictly for Flex and ham radio use has 
caused the following what if...
What if I installed my Windows 7 operating system on both drives and was 
able to select between which drive booted the PC?  Then I could keep all 
my daily use , life with the PC stuff on one drive and all my ham stuff 
on the other.
 Follow me? It would be like having two PC's in one box if it's even 
possible.  I don't want to get in to a discussion of license agreements 
and how Microthief might look at it, I just want to know if it's even a 
feasible idea at this point.
 Just trying to think out of the box since I cannot afford two PC's for 
my own personal use at this point.

73,
Michael, W4HIJ


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Re: [Flexradio] Question about Flex-5000 and Ameritron ARI-500 (Amplifier Auto Band Switch)

[Brian Lloyd]

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Bradley Feldman  wrote:

> Since the Flex-5000 and PowerSDR emulate the Kenwood TS-2000, why can't the
> flex be interfaced to the ARI-500 using DDutil and the SERIAL port (even
> using the stock Kenwood TS-2000 to ARI-500 cable)?
>

It can.


>
> Seems logical to me that it would be plug and play and work with little
> additional configuration or wiring.
>
> Am I wrong?
>

No.

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[Flexradio] Question about Flex-5000 and Ameritron ARI-500 (Amplifier Auto Band Switch)

[Bradley Feldman]

I just purchased an Ameritron ALS-600 solid state amp to eventually use with
my Flex-5000A.   I've been researching interfacing it with the Flex for
automatic band switching.   All that I've come across on the internet talks
about using DDutil and a PARALLEL port (with a custom PARALLEL port cable)
to send BCD data to the ARI-500.

However, reading the ARI-500 manual, it says, "Interfacing to Kenwood
Radios: The Computer port (CAT) is used to retrieve the frequency of the
radio. When the ARI-500 is first turned on, the "Auto Information" (AI)
command is sent to the radio. This command causes the Kenwood radio to
output the state of the radio (frequency, mode, etc) anytime the state has
changes. The ARI-500 then uses the frequency to determine the appropriate
band and then selects the correct antenna. The diagram below shows how to
connect a Kenwood radio with a DB-9 Com port to the ARI-500. Note that pin 7
and 8 (RTS, CTS) on the Kenwood port are
connected together. This ensures that the Kenwood will send the status
information to the ARI-500. The Remote port is also found on the back of the
Kenwood which has the amp key line needed for the ARI-500."

Since the Flex-5000 and PowerSDR emulate the Kenwood TS-2000, why can't the
flex be interfaced to the ARI-500 using DDutil and the SERIAL port (even
using the stock Kenwood TS-2000 to ARI-500 cable)?   

Seems logical to me that it would be plug and play and work with little
additional configuration or wiring.

Am I wrong?

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about submitting a feature request

[Dave Beumer WØDHB]

Alan

The 5k with v/u is a great satellite rig.
I submitted an enhancement request to emulate TS-2000 satellite mode .
I didn't give any further details, so if you can flesh them out I'll bet it
would help.

The most annoying thing is that I have to manually set VFOB to Xmit.

Have you tried HRD Sat Tracker.. It's been work great for me on both
transponder and repeater birds

Dave
W0DHB

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:12 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Question about submitting a feature request

The VU-5K is proving to be an amazing satellite rig.  There are several
TS-2000 CAT commands, needed for programs such as SATPC32, which are not
fully implemented.  For best processing, should I submit a single request
giving all the commands and issues which are somewhat interrelated, or a
separate request for each feature?

73s,

Alan
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about submitting a feature request

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

Submit all of the same CAT related enhancements in one Helpdesk based 
Enhancement Request ticket (http://helpdesk.flexradio.com).  I'll sort 
them out before they are entered into the developer's new feature database.


If you think there are bugs in existing CAT commands, then open a 
Helpdesk support ticket and we'll determine if they are bugs or 
enhancements.


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On 10/13/2011 10:12 AM, Alan P. Biddle wrote:

The VU-5K is proving to be an amazing satellite rig.  There are several
TS-2000 CAT commands, needed for programs such as SATPC32, which are not
fully implemented.  For best processing, should I submit a single request
giving all the commands and issues which are somewhat interrelated, or a
separate request for each feature?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



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[Flexradio] Question about submitting a feature request

[Alan P. Biddle]

The VU-5K is proving to be an amazing satellite rig.  There are several
TS-2000 CAT commands, needed for programs such as SATPC32, which are not
fully implemented.  For best processing, should I submit a single request
giving all the commands and issues which are somewhat interrelated, or a
separate request for each feature?

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



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Re: [Flexradio] Question on region of Display.

[Steven Hess]

Thanks.

Now I know what I am looking at and for in the manual(s) I have three and I
am betting there is a newer one than the ones I am looking at since the page
number don't match.

The transmitted signal reported in the PowerSDR display is not the frequency
the digital software I am using is supposedly sending at. I trust my
Flex-3000 and PowerSDR more than this software. The transmitted frequency is
supposed to be 10.140255. What I am using isn't even BETA at this point
though. This confirmed my suspicions.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ron Kolarik  wrote:

> Center of peak and offset from dial, page 68-69 in my manual.
>
> Ron
> K0IDT
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Steven Hess" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:56 PM
> Subject: [Flexradio] Question on region of Display.
>
>
>  I have a question on the interpretation of the region circled in the
>> display
>> at the URL.  http://goo.gl/ZJ9hm ( http://goo.gl/ZJ9hm in case the mail
>> manger removes the html ) Is this the center of the transmitted signal or
>> the top or bottom edge?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Steven
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Re: [Flexradio] Question on region of Display.

[Ron Kolarik]

Center of peak and offset from dial, page 68-69 in my manual.

Ron
K0IDT


- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Hess" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:56 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] Question on region of Display.



I have a question on the interpretation of the region circled in the display
at the URL.  http://goo.gl/ZJ9hm ( http://goo.gl/ZJ9hm in case the mail
manger removes the html ) Is this the center of the transmitted signal or
the top or bottom edge?

Thanks

Steven

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[Flexradio] Question on region of Display.

[Steven Hess]

I have a question on the interpretation of the region circled in the display
at the URL.  http://goo.gl/ZJ9hm ( http://goo.gl/ZJ9hm in case the mail
manger removes the html ) Is this the center of the transmitted signal or
the top or bottom edge?

Thanks

Steven

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Re: [Flexradio] QUESTION

[Tim Ellison, W4TME]

Not really.  Due to the FLEX-1500 architecture, it does not support the 
audio balance test.


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On 8/10/2011 8:53 PM, James Sheehan wrote:

hI aLL,

i AM RUNNING vac WITH MY 1500 ON THE SOUND TEST ALL i HEAR IS NOISE FROM
BOTH SPEAKERS NO TONE MY SETTING ARE VT CABLE 1 VT CABLE 2,I HAVE TRIED THE
OTHERS AND STILL THE RADIO WORKING SO IS THIS A SOFTWARE PROBLEM .

jIM
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[Flexradio] QUESTION

[James Sheehan]

hI aLL,

i AM RUNNING vac WITH MY 1500 ON THE SOUND TEST ALL i HEAR IS NOISE FROM
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OTHERS AND STILL THE RADIO WORKING SO IS THIS A SOFTWARE PROBLEM .

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about DIGI-U versus DIGI-L on SDR, and RTTY

[Mark Lunday]

Thanks, Ray.


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Re: [Flexradio] Question about DIGI-U versus DIGI-L on SDR, and RTTY

[Mack McCormick]

I too could use some specific RTTY help please.

The FlexWiki settings do not seem to work for me. I'm trying to configure
the latest version of PowerSDR (default database) with DXLabs WinWarbler.
When I click on a RTTY spot the Flex 5000/3000 switches to DIGL but the
signal is not within the passband.

I may be able to figure this out myself but would really appreciate *specific
settings *in *PowerSDR* and *WinWarbler/Commander *to enable
reception/sending of RTTY. I don't need help with CAT/PTT or VAC settings as
those are all working properly. Only help with settings that affect the *
filter/mode/VFO.*

Everything does work properly in N1MM with MMTTY so I'm certain it's just a
configuration issue.

Thank you in advance,

73,

Mack
W4AX

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Open the Setup form & look at the General|Options tab.  In the lower
> left-hand corner are 2 "click-tune" values.  This is the amount that the
> VFO
> is offset when you click on a signal.  For DIGU, it defaults to 1500 Hz
> since that is considered the "sweet spot" for digital modes except for
> RTTY.
> Also, the default filters for DIGU are centered around 1500 Hz.
>
> For DIGL, the offset defaults to 2210 Hz since that is halfway between the
> standard mark & space frequencies.  Again, the default DIGL filters are
> centered around 2210 Hz.
>
> When running RTTY in DIGL mode, clicking on a signal in the panadapter sets
> the VFO for the correct frequency to put your mark & space signals on the
> same frequency as the signal you clicked on & centers the receive filter
> around the received signal.
>
> Do not worry about "roll-off".  Remember that this is not a traditional
> radio.  There is no roll-off within the limits of the filter you have
> selected.
>
> In addition, for RTTY I create a special TX Profile with the TX filter set
> from 1960 Hz to 2460 Hz.  This gives me a 500 Hz wide filter centered on
> 2210 MHz for my transmit signal.
>
> PowerSDR makes operating S&P in a RTTY contest so easy, it is literally
> like
> shooting fish in a barrel -- click on a signal, work him, log it, & click
> on
> another.
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question about DIGI-U versus DIGI-L on SDR, and RTTY

[Ray, K9DUR]

Mark,

Open the Setup form & look at the General|Options tab.  In the lower
left-hand corner are 2 "click-tune" values.  This is the amount that the VFO
is offset when you click on a signal.  For DIGU, it defaults to 1500 Hz
since that is considered the "sweet spot" for digital modes except for RTTY.
Also, the default filters for DIGU are centered around 1500 Hz.

For DIGL, the offset defaults to 2210 Hz since that is halfway between the
standard mark & space frequencies.  Again, the default DIGL filters are
centered around 2210 Hz.

When running RTTY in DIGL mode, clicking on a signal in the panadapter sets
the VFO for the correct frequency to put your mark & space signals on the
same frequency as the signal you clicked on & centers the receive filter
around the received signal.

Do not worry about "roll-off".  Remember that this is not a traditional
radio.  There is no roll-off within the limits of the filter you have
selected.

In addition, for RTTY I create a special TX Profile with the TX filter set
from 1960 Hz to 2460 Hz.  This gives me a 500 Hz wide filter centered on
2210 MHz for my transmit signal.

PowerSDR makes operating S&P in a RTTY contest so easy, it is literally like
shooting fish in a barrel -- click on a signal, work him, log it, & click on
another.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about DIGI-U versus DIGI-L on SDR, and RTTY

[Mark Lunday]

Thanks, Brian.

 

I am using MixW 2.18, and I am able to decode regardless of DIGI-U or DIGI-L
in SDR.  (I do see an Inverted option on the menu of MixW, but I don't have
it checked).

 

I was worried that on DIGI-L, at 2200 Hz there might be some "roll-off" at
that frequency.

 

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Greensboro, NC  FM06be

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about DIGI-U versus DIGI-L on SDR, and RTTY

[Brian Lloyd]

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Mark Lunday  wrote:

> Before SDR, I always tried to set my transmit center frequency around 1500
> Hz, with the assumption that this was within the normal passband of my
> TS570
> (speech compressor off, of course).
>
> With SDR on RTTY, when I narrow the bandwidth to 300 Hz on RTTY (LOVE THOSE
> FILTERS!), I see that on DIGI-U the center of the passband is at about 1500
> Hz above center (makes sense).  But on DIGI-L, it's about 2200 Hz below
> center.
>

That is because most people who use DIGL are using a RTTY program and most
of those assume LSB (inverting) rather than USB (non-inverting.


>
> I have used DIGI-U just like I always used USB on my 570, but the other day
> a ham emailed me and said I was reversed and should be using the other
> sideband.


It depends on the RTTY program. Traditionally AFSK was done using LSB so
many older RTTY programs assume AFSK will use LSB. Center frequency for
"standard" AFSK RTTY is around 2200 Hz LSB.

Newer programs like fldigi do everything the same, including RTTY. They use
USB, typically with a passband center of about 1500 Hz. They also assume
that the radio will not invert the signal (higher tone is lower RF
frequency). So the key is knowing your program and knowing whether it
expects an inverting (LSB) or non-inverting (USB) radio. Fldigi has a switch
you can set to tell it that the radio is inverting so it will invert the
audio spectrum before it goes to the radio, thus fixing that problem.



> So when I switched to SIGI-L, that's when I made this
> observation.
>
> Any thoughts/guidance on this appreciated.
>

Hope the above helps.

73 OM

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[Flexradio] Question about DIGI-U versus DIGI-L on SDR, and RTTY

[Mark Lunday]

Before SDR, I always tried to set my transmit center frequency around 1500
Hz, with the assumption that this was within the normal passband of my TS570
(speech compressor off, of course).

With SDR on RTTY, when I narrow the bandwidth to 300 Hz on RTTY (LOVE THOSE
FILTERS!), I see that on DIGI-U the center of the passband is at about 1500
Hz above center (makes sense).  But on DIGI-L, it's about 2200 Hz below
center.

I have used DIGI-U just like I always used USB on my 570, but the other day
a ham emailed me and said I was reversed and should be using the other
sideband.  So when I switched to SIGI-L, that's when I made this
observation.

Any thoughts/guidance on this appreciated.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question on how PSDR controls VAC audio levels

[Brian Lloyd]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Ronald G. Parsons  wrote:

> Ask and you do receive. Thanks to Dave Beumer, Steve Sterling and Jack
> Haverty, I was able to synthesize a good procedure for controlling gain and
> volume on USB remote operation and control the VAC gains on the main form
> using DIGU mode. Thanks to all.
>

Would you please add that information to the Flex Radio Wiki so others will
have it? Thanks.

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Re: [Flexradio] Question on how PSDR controls VAC audio levels

[Ronald G. Parsons]

Ask and you do receive. Thanks to Dave Beumer, Steve Sterling and Jack Haverty, 
I was able to synthesize a good procedure for controlling gain and volume on 
USB remote operation and control the VAC gains on the main form using DIGU 
mode. Thanks to all.

Ron W5RKN

From: Ronald G. Parsons 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 6:36 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector 
Subject: Question on how PSDR controls VAC audio levels

I am experimenting with ways to remotely control PSDR with the audio I/O 
transmitted via Skype connected to the VAC lines. I have the Skype audio 
options “Automatically adjust microphone/speaker settings” unchecked.

The remote audio I/O device’s (currently an iPad 2) speaker and microphone 
levels, connected to PSDR (v. 2.1.5), are not affected by the PSDR AF slider 
(speaker output) nor by the PSDR Mic (USB) slider.

It appears that the VAC audio comes from/goes to PSDR at a point which is not 
affected by the AF and Mic sliders.

Is this correct? If so, is there a way to control the amplitude of the VAC 
channels via the AF and Mic sliders or some other control?

Ron W5RKN
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Re: [Flexradio] Question on how PSDR controls VAC audio levels

[Jack Haverty.]

Hi Ron - try the volume and fader sliders in the "MultiRX" box.  They
control the VAC audio.  The vertical sliders control volume.  If you have
set up your VAC channels as stereo, be careful to set the faders (the
horizontal sliders) to get the audio routed to the correct channel.

73,
/Jack de K3FIV
 On Aug 4, 2011 4:36 PM, "Ronald G. Parsons"  wrote:
> I am experimenting with ways to remotely control PSDR with the audio I/O
transmitted via Skype connected to the VAC lines. I have the Skype audio
options “Automatically adjust microphone/speaker settings” unchecked.
>
> The remote audio I/O device’s (currently an iPad 2) speaker and microphone
levels, connected to PSDR (v. 2.1.5), are not affected by the PSDR AF slider
(speaker output) nor by the PSDR Mic (USB) slider.
>
> It appears that the VAC audio comes from/goes to PSDR at a point which is
not affected by the AF and Mic sliders.
>
> Is this correct? If so, is there a way to control the amplitude of the VAC
channels via the AF and Mic sliders or some other control?
>
> Ron W5RKN
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Re: [Flexradio] Question on how PSDR controls VAC audio levels

[Steve Sterling]

Hi Ron-- you are correct, the AF slider is just for the station speaker 
output, and the Mic slider just affects the microphone inputs. Neither 
of these are involved in the VAC.


VAC levels may be controlled from Setup>>Audio>>VAC tab on the setup 
screen.  Works fine.


Steve WA7DUH

On 8/4/2011 4:36 PM, Ronald G. Parsons wrote:

I am experimenting with ways to remotely control PSDR with the audio I/O 
transmitted via Skype connected to the VAC lines. I have the Skype audio 
options “Automatically adjust microphone/speaker settings” unchecked.

The remote audio I/O device’s (currently an iPad 2) speaker and microphone 
levels, connected to PSDR (v. 2.1.5), are not affected by the PSDR AF slider 
(speaker output) nor by the PSDR Mic (USB) slider.

It appears that the VAC audio comes from/goes to PSDR at a point which is not 
affected by the AF and Mic sliders.

Is this correct? If so, is there a way to control the amplitude of the VAC 
channels via the AF and Mic sliders or some other control?

Ron W5RKN
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[Flexradio] Question on how PSDR controls VAC audio levels

[Ronald G. Parsons]

I am experimenting with ways to remotely control PSDR with the audio I/O 
transmitted via Skype connected to the VAC lines. I have the Skype audio 
options “Automatically adjust microphone/speaker settings” unchecked.

The remote audio I/O device’s (currently an iPad 2) speaker and microphone 
levels, connected to PSDR (v. 2.1.5), are not affected by the PSDR AF slider 
(speaker output) nor by the PSDR Mic (USB) slider.

It appears that the VAC audio comes from/goes to PSDR at a point which is not 
affected by the AF and Mic sliders.

Is this correct? If so, is there a way to control the amplitude of the VAC 
channels via the AF and Mic sliders or some other control?

Ron W5RKN
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Re: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC...

[Carsten Esch]

... thanks Keith, this is what I would like to do ... I am a bit
familiar with IPSound but not with the configuaration of VAC and IPSound
in this 'special case' ...
How did you set up VAC <-> IPSound?

Thanks!

Carsten


Am 10.07.2011 03:54, schrieb Keith Goobie:
> Carsten
>
> The suggestion below is very good, but the audio will not traverse the VPN
> that you have built.  It will go outside the VPN to the Skype servers to
> route between the remote and the local sites.
>
> An excellent piece of software is IPSound.  Great functionality, but it no
> longer supported.  It is still worth a look.
>
> Here is a typical configurations that I have used.
>
>
> Remote   Local
>
> Flex <-> VAC <-> IPSound <-> VPN <-> IPSound <-> VAC <-> HRD or similar
> program.
>
> I have built this setup and it works nicely - IPSound allows you to select
> the quality and the bandwidth that you require.
>
> This setup forces all the audio through the VPN.
>
> Keith
>
>
> On 7/9/11 1:32 PM, "Mike Schwendeman"  wrote:
>
>> Carsten;
>>
>> I use SKYPE as the means of coupling the needed audio to the Flex Radio.
>>
>> You already have VAC 4.09 installed, or ready.  (GOOD!)
>>
>> Install VAC, then ENABLE VAC in the SETUP -> AUDIO -> VAC menu of PowerSDR;
>> Set the driver to Windows WDM-KS
>> Set the INPUT to Virtual Cable 1
>> Set the OUTPUT to Virtual Cable 2
>> Check the ENABLE VAC box
>>
>>
>> Install Skype on the computer that is running your Flex-Radio
>> Create a NEW identity for the "radio access"  ("Carsten-Flex" as an
>> example?)
>> Set Skype to auto-answer, but ONLY TO THE IDENTITIES ON IT'S CONTACT
>> LIST.  (!!)
>>
>> In Skype, select TOOLS -> OPTIONS -AUDIO SETUP
>> Once there, select Virtual cable 2 as the microphone selection
>> Select Virtual cable 1 as the speaker selection
>>
>>  From your remote computer, "call" the new Skype identity that you have
>> in place for the Flex-Radio.  It should auto-answer and connect!  (We
>> hope..)  If not, look at the logic of what is needed: You need to call
>> the Flex's computer's Skype identity, but it has to be automatic, as you
>> are not there to ANSWER.  Once you have the connection, you can play
>> with the settings.  (I have a Skype transmit audio profile in PowerSDR,
>> as I need to have the HIGHS boosted when I use Skype.)
>>
>> You will have to play with the audio levels in BOTH the PowerSDR's VAC
>> levels as well as the level settings in Skype; I have to boost my TX
>> audio in PowerSDR's VAC...
>>
>> I hope this helps you; I believe there is more information in the
>> FLEX-WIKI as well as the Flex KC.
>>
>> 73;MikeKØJTA
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/11 12:00 PM, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
>>> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:25:52 +0200
>>> From: Carsten Esch
>>> To:flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>>> Subject: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC and possible
>>> connection with IPSound or similar software.
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am remote controlling some Flexes through a VPN connection. For
>>> instance I have a FLEX-1500 with transverter running on one remote PC
>>> "connected" with VAC 4.09 to WSJT (for 23cm EME) on this PC.
>>> What must be done to have audio also on the controlling site when using
>>> VAC? How can I redirect a parallel audio out stream?
>>>
>>> Hope it is clear what I am trying to do;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Carsten, DL6LAU
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Re: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC...

[John Bair, KJ7B]

I also use Skype in the same manner. To be safe, I disable the Skype sounds
in Tools->Sounds and/or disable all the notification events. Even if you
restrict incoming calls, Skype can trigger other sounds for various events,
so disabling them might be a good idea.

73s, John KJ7B

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mike Schwendeman  wrote:

> Carsten;
>
> I use SKYPE as the means of coupling the needed audio to the Flex Radio.
>
> You already have VAC 4.09 installed, or ready.  (GOOD!)
>
> Install VAC, then ENABLE VAC in the SETUP -> AUDIO -> VAC menu of PowerSDR;
> Set the driver to Windows WDM-KS
> Set the INPUT to Virtual Cable 1
> Set the OUTPUT to Virtual Cable 2
> Check the ENABLE VAC box
>
>
> Install Skype on the computer that is running your Flex-Radio
> Create a NEW identity for the "radio access"  ("Carsten-Flex" as an
> example?)
> Set Skype to auto-answer, but ONLY TO THE IDENTITIES ON IT'S CONTACT LIST.
>  (!!)
>
> In Skype, select TOOLS -> OPTIONS -AUDIO SETUP
> Once there, select Virtual cable 2 as the microphone selection
> Select Virtual cable 1 as the speaker selection
>
> From your remote computer, "call" the new Skype identity that you have in
> place for the Flex-Radio.  It should auto-answer and connect!  (We hope..)
>  If not, look at the logic of what is needed: You need to call the Flex's
> computer's Skype identity, but it has to be automatic, as you are not there
> to ANSWER.  Once you have the connection, you can play with the settings.
>  (I have a Skype transmit audio profile in PowerSDR, as I need to have the
> HIGHS boosted when I use Skype.)
>
> You will have to play with the audio levels in BOTH the PowerSDR's VAC
> levels as well as the level settings in Skype; I have to boost my TX audio
> in PowerSDR's VAC...
>
> I hope this helps you; I believe there is more information in the FLEX-WIKI
> as well as the Flex KC.
>
> 73;MikeKØJTA
>
>
> On 7/9/11 12:00 PM, 
> flexradio-request@flex-radio.**bizwrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:25:52 +0200
>> From: Carsten Esch
>> To:flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>> Subject: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC and possible
>>connection with IPSound or similar software.
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am remote controlling some Flexes through a VPN connection. For
>> instance I have a FLEX-1500 with transverter running on one remote PC
>> "connected" with VAC 4.09 to WSJT (for 23cm EME) on this PC.
>> What must be done to have audio also on the controlling site when using
>> VAC? How can I redirect a parallel audio out stream?
>>
>> Hope it is clear what I am trying to do;-)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Carsten, DL6LAU
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC...

[Keith Goobie]

Carsten

The suggestion below is very good, but the audio will not traverse the VPN
that you have built.  It will go outside the VPN to the Skype servers to
route between the remote and the local sites.

An excellent piece of software is IPSound.  Great functionality, but it no
longer supported.  It is still worth a look.

Here is a typical configurations that I have used.


Remote   Local

Flex <-> VAC <-> IPSound <-> VPN <-> IPSound <-> VAC <-> HRD or similar
program.

I have built this setup and it works nicely - IPSound allows you to select
the quality and the bandwidth that you require.

This setup forces all the audio through the VPN.

Keith


On 7/9/11 1:32 PM, "Mike Schwendeman"  wrote:

> Carsten;
> 
> I use SKYPE as the means of coupling the needed audio to the Flex Radio.
> 
> You already have VAC 4.09 installed, or ready.  (GOOD!)
> 
> Install VAC, then ENABLE VAC in the SETUP -> AUDIO -> VAC menu of PowerSDR;
> Set the driver to Windows WDM-KS
> Set the INPUT to Virtual Cable 1
> Set the OUTPUT to Virtual Cable 2
> Check the ENABLE VAC box
> 
> 
> Install Skype on the computer that is running your Flex-Radio
> Create a NEW identity for the "radio access"  ("Carsten-Flex" as an
> example?)
> Set Skype to auto-answer, but ONLY TO THE IDENTITIES ON IT'S CONTACT
> LIST.  (!!)
> 
> In Skype, select TOOLS -> OPTIONS -AUDIO SETUP
> Once there, select Virtual cable 2 as the microphone selection
> Select Virtual cable 1 as the speaker selection
> 
>  From your remote computer, "call" the new Skype identity that you have
> in place for the Flex-Radio.  It should auto-answer and connect!  (We
> hope..)  If not, look at the logic of what is needed: You need to call
> the Flex's computer's Skype identity, but it has to be automatic, as you
> are not there to ANSWER.  Once you have the connection, you can play
> with the settings.  (I have a Skype transmit audio profile in PowerSDR,
> as I need to have the HIGHS boosted when I use Skype.)
> 
> You will have to play with the audio levels in BOTH the PowerSDR's VAC
> levels as well as the level settings in Skype; I have to boost my TX
> audio in PowerSDR's VAC...
> 
> I hope this helps you; I believe there is more information in the
> FLEX-WIKI as well as the Flex KC.
> 
> 73;MikeKØJTA
> 
> 
> On 7/9/11 12:00 PM, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:25:52 +0200
>> From: Carsten Esch
>> To:flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>> Subject: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC and possible
>> connection with IPSound or similar software.
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am remote controlling some Flexes through a VPN connection. For
>> instance I have a FLEX-1500 with transverter running on one remote PC
>> "connected" with VAC 4.09 to WSJT (for 23cm EME) on this PC.
>> What must be done to have audio also on the controlling site when using
>> VAC? How can I redirect a parallel audio out stream?
>> 
>> Hope it is clear what I am trying to do;-)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Carsten, DL6LAU
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Re: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC...

[Mike Schwendeman]

Carsten;

I use SKYPE as the means of coupling the needed audio to the Flex Radio.

You already have VAC 4.09 installed, or ready.  (GOOD!)

Install VAC, then ENABLE VAC in the SETUP -> AUDIO -> VAC menu of PowerSDR;
Set the driver to Windows WDM-KS
Set the INPUT to Virtual Cable 1
Set the OUTPUT to Virtual Cable 2
Check the ENABLE VAC box


Install Skype on the computer that is running your Flex-Radio
Create a NEW identity for the "radio access"  ("Carsten-Flex" as an 
example?)
Set Skype to auto-answer, but ONLY TO THE IDENTITIES ON IT'S CONTACT 
LIST.  (!!)


In Skype, select TOOLS -> OPTIONS -AUDIO SETUP
Once there, select Virtual cable 2 as the microphone selection
Select Virtual cable 1 as the speaker selection

From your remote computer, "call" the new Skype identity that you have 
in place for the Flex-Radio.  It should auto-answer and connect!  (We 
hope..)  If not, look at the logic of what is needed: You need to call 
the Flex's computer's Skype identity, but it has to be automatic, as you 
are not there to ANSWER.  Once you have the connection, you can play 
with the settings.  (I have a Skype transmit audio profile in PowerSDR, 
as I need to have the HIGHS boosted when I use Skype.)


You will have to play with the audio levels in BOTH the PowerSDR's VAC 
levels as well as the level settings in Skype; I have to boost my TX 
audio in PowerSDR's VAC...


I hope this helps you; I believe there is more information in the 
FLEX-WIKI as well as the Flex KC.


73;MikeKØJTA


On 7/9/11 12:00 PM, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:

Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 17:25:52 +0200
From: Carsten Esch
To:flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC and possible
connection with IPSound or similar software.
Hi,

I am remote controlling some Flexes through a VPN connection. For
instance I have a FLEX-1500 with transverter running on one remote PC
"connected" with VAC 4.09 to WSJT (for 23cm EME) on this PC.
What must be done to have audio also on the controlling site when using
VAC? How can I redirect a parallel audio out stream?

Hope it is clear what I am trying to do;-)

Thanks!

Carsten, DL6LAU


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[Flexradio] Question regarding VAC on remote PC and possible connection with IPSound or similar software.

[Carsten Esch]

Hi,

I am remote controlling some Flexes through a VPN connection. For
instance I have a FLEX-1500 with transverter running on one remote PC
"connected" with VAC 4.09 to WSJT (for 23cm EME) on this PC.
What must be done to have audio also on the controlling site when using
VAC? How can I redirect a parallel audio out stream?

Hope it is clear what I am trying to do ;-)

Thanks!

Carsten, DL6LAU

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Re: [Flexradio] Question about buffers

[Brian Lloyd]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Kerry Miller  wrote:

> I finally got a computer fast enough to handle my Flex radio properly and
> have been experimenting with some settings.  It looks like the filters work
> better (sharper skirts) with bigger buffers, are there any other advantages
> to having a larger or smaller buffer?


Larger DSP buffers = sharper filters with more delay.
Smaller DSP buffers = "broader" filters with less delay.

Lower sample rate = sharper filters with more delay.
Higher sample rate = "broader" filters with less delay.

The same holds true for both RX and TX but on TX you have probably already
generated a good signal so the filter doesn't buy you very much. Go for
smaller buffers to minimize delay/latency on TX.

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