Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex

[Steve Nance]

This error message in VSPM can occur when there are no ports existing on the
PC. Ignore the message and create a pair of ports and the message should go
away.

73, Steve K5FR

-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Burt
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 2:21 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex






Windows eight is sure different
When I installed it Windows 8 I was running the previous version of PowerSDR
and CPU usage jumped to 75% So I upgraded and CPU usage dropped  to about
30% BUT VSP manager comes up with errors :"Object reference not set to an
instance of an object at vspmgr.vspmain.printports()"
 
So I cannot use PSK etc
Suggestions?
Burt
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex

[Nige G7CNF]

It sounds as if you might be using a relatively slow CPU with processor 
usage that  high. That aside, as a short-term fix you could try com0com 
or alternatively Eterlogic's VSPE.  Com0com's 32 bit version as with the 
Eterlogic solution are freeware, however 64-bit VSPE does require the 
purchase of a key. There is a signed a version of com0com for 64-bit but 
it is not available from their website as it has been independently 
signed; a Google search should track it down  easily enough.


Best wishes,

Nige.

On 01/01/2013 20:20, Burt wrote:





Windows eight is sure different
When I installed it Windows 8 I was running the previous version of PowerSDR 
and CPU usage jumped to 75%
So I upgraded and CPU usage dropped  to about 30%
BUT VSP manager comes up with errors :"Object reference not set to an instance of an 
object at vspmgr.vspmain.printports()"
  
So I cannot use PSK etc

Suggestions?
Burt
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 install problems

[Darryl Wagoner]

Never mind I got it working.  Now I can do a memory upgrade.

thanks and 73


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Darryl Wagoner  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I just installed windows 8 x64 on my computer.  Had some problems with the
> video driver, but those are solved.  I installed PSDR 2.5.x and the
> flexradio firmware isn't seeing the radio.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> thanks
> Darryl WA1GON
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

[Jim Barber]

I use and recommend Plexus plaster cleaner and polish. ;-)

A little more seriously, it is great stuff for anything plastic or 
painted. I use it on LCD displays, radios, eyeglasses, motorcycles, etc.
It doesn't leave a "greasy" surface like Armor-All, and has anti-static 
properties. The only problem is that "they" know it's good stuff and 
charge accordingly...


73,
Jim N7CXI

On 12/1/2012 12:14 PM, Michael Tondee wrote:

So did you spit it all over your touch screen? How'd that work out for
ya? ;-)
Michael, W4HIJ
On 12/1/2012 2:41 PM, Jim Barber wrote:

Unfair.
I was drinking coffee. ;-)

73,
Jim N7CXI

On 12/1/2012 11:26 AM, Robert Costa, KB6QXM wrote:

But are you using touch technology?

73,
Robert
KB6QXM
"Ham Radio Open Conversation"
Yahoo group owner/moderator


- Reply message -
From: "Jim Gilliam" 
To: "Flexradio" 
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:06 am




  For all those interested I just hooked up the following with very
successful results using the Flex 5000A Windows 8 Professional Dell
XPS 8500 Syba low profile PCI-express Firewire card with TI chpset
(purchased through Amazon) Jim Gilliam, K6QE



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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

[Michael Tondee]

So did you spit it all over your touch screen? How'd that work out for 
ya? ;-)

Michael, W4HIJ
On 12/1/2012 2:41 PM, Jim Barber wrote:

Unfair.
I was drinking coffee. ;-)

73,
Jim N7CXI

On 12/1/2012 11:26 AM, Robert Costa, KB6QXM wrote:

But are you using touch technology?

73,
Robert
KB6QXM
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- Reply message -
From: "Jim Gilliam" 
To: "Flexradio" 
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:06 am




  For all those interested I just hooked up the following with very 
successful results using the Flex 5000A Windows 8 Professional Dell 
XPS 8500 Syba low profile PCI-express Firewire card with TI chpset 
(purchased through Amazon) Jim Gilliam, K6QE



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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

[Richard Clafton]

I have a Touch Samsung TH700 with Win 8 on it and I use it with the Flex1500.   
  Got to be honest,
apart from the Start Screen I don't normally use the Touch screen, I use the 
mouse or the track
pad.

I have Win 8 on a Development box, which does not have a touch screen, but has 
a Logitech Touch pad
that allows me to do the touch gestures - and again...I find myself using the 
mouse and keyboard
shortcuts to get around.  Once you get used to the keyboard shortcuts it's 
really quite smooth to
use - in fact some things are downright quicker than Windows 7 - but I still 
prefer Windows 7 at
the moment, but 8 is growing on me day by day.  My main PowerSDR machine is 
a dual boot with
Win8 and Win7 - no touch, so mouse all the way.

As for using PowerSDR with the touch screen on the Samsungmy chunky fingers 
are no good...but
if I use the pen that is supplied with the laptop - then general usage of band 
change buttons and
normal on/off selections is fine - trying to use the TNF is near impossible.  
So back to the mouse
for that too.I think the touch side of Win 8 is for those Slates and 
tablet's without the KB -
but it also works great as a non-touch OS if you can get your head around the 
Start menu being the
Start screen.  I have a Slate that was provided by MS as a preview unit for 
a project I was
working on - it's an RT and is the cut down OS so I cannot load PSDR to test on 
it.   Waiting for
the Win 8 Pro Slate which was priced yesterday I think.  Should be in the 
stores soon - and we have
been promised a preview model to play with as with the RT model.  When I do, I 
will report back on
usage with the Flex1500.

--
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-Original Message-
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Robert 
Costa, KB6QXM
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 1:56 PM
To: audio...@q.com
Cc: Flexradio; Jim Gilliam
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

Huh.Windows 8 as we all know is touch centric. I know that the amount of 
touch monitors is
limited and what is available is not inexpensive, but as Windows 8 is best used 
with the touch UI,
I expect monitor manufacturers to bring touch monitors into the mainstream 
therefore lowering the
price point.

73,
Robert
KB6QXM
"Ham Radio Open Conversation"
Yahoo group owner/moderator


- Reply message -
From: "Jim Barber" 
To: "Robert Costa, KB6QXM" 
Cc: "Jim Gilliam" , "Flexradio" 
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:41 am


Unfair.
I was drinking coffee. ;-)

73,
Jim N7CXI

On 12/1/2012 11:26 AM, Robert Costa, KB6QXM wrote:
> But are you using touch technology?
>
> 73,
> Robert
> KB6QXM
> "Ham Radio Open Conversation"
> Yahoo group owner/moderator
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jim Gilliam" 
> To: "Flexradio" 
> Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
> Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:06 am
>
>
>
>
>   For all those interested I just hooked up the following with very 
> successful results using the
Flex 5000A Windows 8 Professional Dell XPS 8500 Syba low profile PCI-express 
Firewire card with TI
chpset (purchased through Amazon) Jim Gilliam, K6QE
>> From: flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz
>> Subject: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1
>> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
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>> 2. Re: flex radio no audio (James McLester)
>> 3. Re: flex radio no audio (Michael Walker)
>> 4. Re: PSDR generated broad noise on 21.076 (John Sweeney)
>> 5. No Audio (Dan Mees)
>> 6. Re: PSDR generated noise on 21.076 (py...@terra.com.br)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:49:12 -0500
>> From: Bob Kay 
>> To: Howard G

Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

[Robert Costa, KB6QXM]

Huh.Windows 8 as we all know is touch centric. I know that the amount of 
touch monitors is limited and what is available is not inexpensive, but as 
Windows 8 is best used with the touch UI, I expect monitor manufacturers to 
bring touch monitors into the mainstream therefore lowering the price point.

73,
Robert
KB6QXM
"Ham Radio Open Conversation"
Yahoo group owner/moderator


- Reply message -
From: "Jim Barber" 
To: "Robert Costa, KB6QXM" 
Cc: "Jim Gilliam" , "Flexradio" 
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:41 am


Unfair.
I was drinking coffee. ;-)

73,
Jim N7CXI

On 12/1/2012 11:26 AM, Robert Costa, KB6QXM wrote:
> But are you using touch technology?
>
> 73,
> Robert
> KB6QXM
> "Ham Radio Open Conversation"
> Yahoo group owner/moderator
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jim Gilliam" 
> To: "Flexradio" 
> Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
> Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:06 am
>
>
>
>
>   For all those interested I just hooked up the following with very 
> successful results using the Flex 5000A Windows 8 Professional Dell XPS 8500 
> Syba low profile PCI-express Firewire card with TI chpset (purchased through 
> Amazon) Jim Gilliam, K6QE
>> From: flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz
>> Subject: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1
>> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:00:05 -0600
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>> 1. Re: BCB Filter + Flex 5000 Question (Bob Kay)
>> 2. Re: flex radio no audio (James McLester)
>> 3. Re: flex radio no audio (Michael Walker)
>> 4. Re: PSDR generated broad noise on 21.076 (John Sweeney)
>> 5. No Audio (Dan Mees)
>> 6. Re: PSDR generated noise on 21.076 (py...@terra.com.br)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:49:12 -0500
>> From: Bob Kay 
>> To: Howard Grams 
>> Cc: Flex Radio 
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] BCB Filter + Flex 5000 Question
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> I also have same rf proximity situation (770 kHz) and use the ICE filter,
>> but do not have your problem.
>> WA2SQQ
>>
>> On Friday, November 30, 2012, Howard Grams wrote:
>>
>>> Since my QTH is only a quarter mile from the antenna farm of a local AM
>>> station on 1380 kHz, I have been using an ICE 400X BCB filter in the ANT1
>>> input to the Flex to knock down the noise level from about -85 db to about
>>> -114 db.
>>>
>>> So far, so good.  But now I want to use an additional antenna hooked to
>>> the Flex ANT2 input, so I've moved the BCB filter to the RX1 Out to RX1 In
>>> loop.  Again, so far, so good.  Except. . .
>>>
>>> I notice that over time, the noise level builds up to something like -100
>>> db, with a broad peak to -90 db located about 16 kHz below wherever the
>>> radio is tuned.  If I momentarily uncheck "Use RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop" in
>>> the Flex-5000 Antenna Selection, the noise level goes back to -85 db of
>>> course. But then, when I re-check "Use RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop", the noise
>>> level goes back down to -114 db with the broad peak gone.
>>>
>>> But after a period of just about 45 to 60 seconds, the noise level
>>> gradually builds back up to -100 db and the broad peak comes back.  (This
>>> broad peak pulsates in time to the modulation of the local AM station.)
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a clue as to what may be going on here?  Is it perhaps
>>> something like a small bias voltage present on the RX1 Out to RX1 In loop
>>> that is charging up a coupling capacitor in the BCB filter that wasn't
>>> there when the BCB filter was in the ANT1 input?  If I get another brand
>>> BCB filter for the RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop, am I likely to see the same
>>> effect?
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73,
>>>  Howard, K7JNX
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

[Jim Barber]

Unfair.
I was drinking coffee. ;-)

73,
Jim N7CXI

On 12/1/2012 11:26 AM, Robert Costa, KB6QXM wrote:

But are you using touch technology?

73,
Robert
KB6QXM
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- Reply message -
From: "Jim Gilliam" 
To: "Flexradio" 
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:06 am




  For all those interested I just hooked up the following with very successful 
results using the Flex 5000A Windows 8 Professional Dell XPS 8500 Syba low 
profile PCI-express Firewire card with TI chpset (purchased through Amazon) Jim 
Gilliam, K6QE

From: flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz
Subject: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:00:05 -0600

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: BCB Filter + Flex 5000 Question (Bob Kay)
2. Re: flex radio no audio (James McLester)
3. Re: flex radio no audio (Michael Walker)
4. Re: PSDR generated broad noise on 21.076 (John Sweeney)
5. No Audio (Dan Mees)
6. Re: PSDR generated noise on 21.076 (py...@terra.com.br)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:49:12 -0500
From: Bob Kay 
To: Howard Grams 
Cc: Flex Radio 
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] BCB Filter + Flex 5000 Question
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I also have same rf proximity situation (770 kHz) and use the ICE filter,
but do not have your problem.
WA2SQQ

On Friday, November 30, 2012, Howard Grams wrote:


Since my QTH is only a quarter mile from the antenna farm of a local AM
station on 1380 kHz, I have been using an ICE 400X BCB filter in the ANT1
input to the Flex to knock down the noise level from about -85 db to about
-114 db.

So far, so good.  But now I want to use an additional antenna hooked to
the Flex ANT2 input, so I've moved the BCB filter to the RX1 Out to RX1 In
loop.  Again, so far, so good.  Except. . .

I notice that over time, the noise level builds up to something like -100
db, with a broad peak to -90 db located about 16 kHz below wherever the
radio is tuned.  If I momentarily uncheck "Use RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop" in
the Flex-5000 Antenna Selection, the noise level goes back to -85 db of
course. But then, when I re-check "Use RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop", the noise
level goes back down to -114 db with the broad peak gone.

But after a period of just about 45 to 60 seconds, the noise level
gradually builds back up to -100 db and the broad peak comes back.  (This
broad peak pulsates in time to the modulation of the local AM station.)

Does anyone have a clue as to what may be going on here?  Is it perhaps
something like a small bias voltage present on the RX1 Out to RX1 In loop
that is charging up a coupling capacitor in the BCB filter that wasn't
there when the BCB filter was in the ANT1 input?  If I get another brand
BCB filter for the RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop, am I likely to see the same
effect?

--
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 Howard, K7JNX

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:09:53 -0600
From: James McLester 
To: russell bradley 
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] flex radio no audio
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

You are a better man than I!  I was ashamed to admit that mistake
after falling for it three time in one day!!

73

Jim  W4YXU

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, russell bradley
 wrote:

Hi ALL


I had no audio and found out it was caused by the squelch being turned up too 
high , thought I had a broken radio but all fine now .

Russell Bradley G0OKD IO93IC Derbyshire  England

73,s and good flexing !!!





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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a

[Robert Costa, KB6QXM]

But are you using touch technology? 

73,
Robert
KB6QXM
"Ham Radio Open Conversation"
Yahoo group owner/moderator


- Reply message -
From: "Jim Gilliam" 
To: "Flexradio" 
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8 and Flex 5000a
Date: Sat, Dec 1, 2012 11:06 am




 For all those interested I just hooked up the following with very successful 
results using the Flex 5000A Windows 8 Professional Dell XPS 8500 Syba low 
profile PCI-express Firewire card with TI chpset (purchased through Amazon) Jim 
Gilliam, K6QE
> From: flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 92, Issue 1
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 12:00:05 -0600
> 
> Send FlexRadio mailing list submissions to
>   flexradio@flex-radio.biz
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>   http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>   flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>   flexradio-ow...@flex-radio.biz
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of FlexRadio digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>1. Re: BCB Filter + Flex 5000 Question (Bob Kay)
>2. Re: flex radio no audio (James McLester)
>3. Re: flex radio no audio (Michael Walker)
>4. Re: PSDR generated broad noise on 21.076 (John Sweeney)
>5. No Audio (Dan Mees)
>6. Re: PSDR generated noise on 21.076 (py...@terra.com.br)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:49:12 -0500
> From: Bob Kay 
> To: Howard Grams 
> Cc: Flex Radio 
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] BCB Filter + Flex 5000 Question
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I also have same rf proximity situation (770 kHz) and use the ICE filter,
> but do not have your problem.
> WA2SQQ
> 
> On Friday, November 30, 2012, Howard Grams wrote:
> 
> > Since my QTH is only a quarter mile from the antenna farm of a local AM
> > station on 1380 kHz, I have been using an ICE 400X BCB filter in the ANT1
> > input to the Flex to knock down the noise level from about -85 db to about
> > -114 db.
> >
> > So far, so good.  But now I want to use an additional antenna hooked to
> > the Flex ANT2 input, so I've moved the BCB filter to the RX1 Out to RX1 In
> > loop.  Again, so far, so good.  Except. . .
> >
> > I notice that over time, the noise level builds up to something like -100
> > db, with a broad peak to -90 db located about 16 kHz below wherever the
> > radio is tuned.  If I momentarily uncheck "Use RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop" in
> > the Flex-5000 Antenna Selection, the noise level goes back to -85 db of
> > course. But then, when I re-check "Use RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop", the noise
> > level goes back down to -114 db with the broad peak gone.
> >
> > But after a period of just about 45 to 60 seconds, the noise level
> > gradually builds back up to -100 db and the broad peak comes back.  (This
> > broad peak pulsates in time to the modulation of the local AM station.)
> >
> > Does anyone have a clue as to what may be going on here?  Is it perhaps
> > something like a small bias voltage present on the RX1 Out to RX1 In loop
> > that is charging up a coupling capacitor in the BCB filter that wasn't
> > there when the BCB filter was in the ANT1 input?  If I get another brand
> > BCB filter for the RX1 Out to RX1 In Loop, am I likely to see the same
> > effect?
> >
> > --
> > 73,
> > Howard, K7JNX
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> "The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"*
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:09:53 -0600
> From: James McLester 
> To: russell bradley 
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] flex radio no audio
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> You are a better man than I!  I was ashamed to admit that mistake
> after falling for it three time in one day!!
> 
> 73
> 
> Jim  W4YXU
> 
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM, russell bradley
>  wrote:
> > Hi ALL
> >
> >
> > I had no audio and found out it was caused by the squelch being turned up 
> > too high , thought I had a broken radio but all fine now .
> >
> > Russell Bradley G0OKD IO93IC Derbyshire  England
> >
> > 73,s and good flexing !!!
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 for Flex 3000/5000

[N7BCP]

Having good results with win 8 64 bit release build and PowerSDR 2.4.4 on Mac 
Book Pro.  PowerSDR froze a couple of times where audio stopped, pan was in 
pan-fall mode and waterfall smeared with vertical bars - stop/start button 
recovered it.  Using mini deluxe, ddutil, HRD, Flex Control, VSPManager, and 
N1MM logger.

-Larry

On 08.10.2012, at 16:20, Neal Campbell  wrote:

> Yep, works great!
> 
> 73
> 
>> Darryl Wagoner 
>> Monday, October 08, 2012 10:18 AM
>> Has anyone tried flex on Windows 8?
>> 
>> thanks
>> -darryl
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 for Flex 3000/5000

[Neal Campbell]

Yep, works great!

73


Darryl Wagoner 
Monday, October 08, 2012 10:18 AM
Has anyone tried flex on Windows 8?

thanks
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Alfred Green]

On 12/21/2011 11:10 AM, Robert Costa, KB6QXM wrote:

As there are plenty of videos produced by Microsoft on their new touch UI for 
Windows 8 that mimics a droid or iPhone UI with touch scrolling and other 
phone/tablet UI features, hopefully Flex radio will get a developer copy to 
help build the 2012 version of PSDR. Windows 8 is scheduled to be released in 
2012.

Exciting times for touch technology.


My fingers no longer do what my brain tells them to. I do have a Droid 
phone, but have a problem using the touchscreen option for things like 
web-surfing. A touch-screen based PSDR would NOT be in my future.


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Ross Stenberg]

Albeit I'm not comparing apples to oranges (direct sampling receiver 
from a different manufacturer) SDRMAXIV for the QS1R is cross platform 
(Windows, Linux, OS X) in a client/server configuration.


On 9/19/2011 6:42 AM, Mike wrote:

Hi Steven,

The PC that is used for the F3K is only used for the F3K, I have no 
need for it to be on for any other use as I have my other systems setup
with Linux already. All my day-to-day computing (Business and 
personal) is done on the other machines in Linux, they are fully 
configured with all my programs,
access to databases etc etc that I need so the F3K PC is never on, 
unless I want to use the F3K.


The PC was bought new when I bought the F3K as it was recommended by 
the UK reseller as they were of the opinion that my
existing PCs weren't powerful enough, even though they do just fine 
with all my Linux app's running at the same time :-)
(I've since found out that they are powerful enough to run PSDR just 
fine!)


So you see, it really is a waste ... and an expensive one too!

Now, if I could use my Linux server to connect to the F3K and then use 
a separate client on one of my existing PCs then there'd be no need
to have the Windows PC at all ... that's my point really I guess, SDR 
really should be using client/server technology.


The client and server could be run on the same PC if you didn't have a 
separate server like I do  :-)





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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mike]

Hi Steven,

The PC that is used for the F3K is only used for the F3K, I have no need 
for it to be on for any other use as I have my other systems setup
with Linux already. All my day-to-day computing (Business and personal) 
is done on the other machines in Linux, they are fully configured with 
all my programs,
access to databases etc etc that I need so the F3K PC is never on, 
unless I want to use the F3K.


The PC was bought new when I bought the F3K as it was recommended by the 
UK reseller as they were of the opinion that my
existing PCs weren't powerful enough, even though they do just fine with 
all my Linux app's running at the same time :-)

(I've since found out that they are powerful enough to run PSDR just fine!)

So you see, it really is a waste ... and an expensive one too!

Now, if I could use my Linux server to connect to the F3K and then use a 
separate client on one of my existing PCs then there'd be no need
to have the Windows PC at all ... that's my point really I guess, SDR 
really should be using client/server technology.


The client and server could be run on the same PC if you didn't have a 
separate server like I do  :-)


Mike.


On 18/09/11 22:38, Steven Hess wrote:
Mike.actually it's not. It's just one more machine using 
the appropriate OS to do it's function. I have a KVM and have PowerSDR 
running with WSPR in a second monitor. I switch focus with a KVM I 
paid 30 dollars for. I can switch between four computers 3 of which 
run Linux or dual boot. I have a Logitech USB marble mouse on the 
PowerDR machine and can make adjustment without  changing KVM focus.


I love Linux but I also use what works. If I needed a Mac to run 
PowerSDR I'd buy one. Windows 7 64 works great and PowerSDR is 
fantastic. How Windows 8 will work we will obviously see but I am not 
jumping on the upgrade bandwagon just because Windows 8 is going to exist.


On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Mike <mailto:mi...@m0aws.co.uk>> wrote:


You see, that's where I am at the moment!

All the programs I want to use exist in Linux, so I have to have a
dedicated PC running windoze
just to be able to use my F3K and then have a second PC running
Linux to be able to
use my other programs!

It's such a waste having a high spec PC just to run windoze XP for
the flex3000 :-(


On 17/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz
<mailto:flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz> wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:28:24 -0400
From: Drax Feltonmailto:draxfel...@gmail.com>>
To:"flexradio@flex-radio.biz
<mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz>" mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz>>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
Message-ID:<74e23e11-741e-4ac9-9057-476e5cb1c...@gmail.com
<mailto:74e23e11-741e-4ac9-9057-476e5cb1c...@gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

I wouldn't be able to use all my other software at the same
time.  I'd be booted into the "flex os"

There still are many pieces I like that only run on Windows.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Jerry Johnson]

I have five networked computers and six monitors here. Two are Win 7, two are 
Vista and one is XP. I run Synergy ( http://synergy-foss.org/ ) on all and, 
while they all have mice and keyboards, I use the mouse and keyboard from my 
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can cut/paste from computer to computer.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Steven Hess 
  To: Mike 
  Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8


  Mike.actually it's not. It's just one more machine using the appropriate OS
  to do it's function. I have a KVM and have PowerSDR running with WSPR in a
  second monitor. I switch focus with a KVM I paid 30 dollars for. I can
  switch between four computers 3 of which run Linux or dual boot. I have a
  Logitech USB marble mouse on the PowerDR machine and can
  make adjustment without  changing KVM focus.

  I love Linux but I also use what works. If I needed a Mac to run PowerSDR
  I'd buy one. Windows 7 64 works great and PowerSDR is fantastic. How Windows
  8 will work we will obviously see but I am not jumping on the upgrade
  bandwagon just because Windows 8 is going to exist.

  On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Mike  wrote:

  > You see, that's where I am at the moment!
  >
  > All the programs I want to use exist in Linux, so I have to have a
  > dedicated PC running windoze
  > just to be able to use my F3K and then have a second PC running Linux to be
  > able to
  > use my other programs!
  >
  > It's such a waste having a high spec PC just to run windoze XP for the
  > flex3000 :-(
  >
  >
  > On 17/09/11 18:00, 
flexradio-request@flex-radio.**bizwrote:
  >
  >> Message: 4
  >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:28:24 -0400
  >> From: Drax Felton
  >> To:"flexradio@flex-radio.biz"  
  >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
  >> 
Message-ID:<74E23E11-741E-**4AC9-9057-476E5CB1C943@gmail.**com<74e23e11-741e-4ac9-9057-476e5cb1c...@gmail.com>
  >> >
  >> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
  >>
  >> I wouldn't be able to use all my other software at the same time.  I'd be
  >> booted into the "flex os"
  >>
  >> There still are many pieces I like that only run on Windows.
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Steven Hess]

Mike.actually it's not. It's just one more machine using the appropriate OS
to do it's function. I have a KVM and have PowerSDR running with WSPR in a
second monitor. I switch focus with a KVM I paid 30 dollars for. I can
switch between four computers 3 of which run Linux or dual boot. I have a
Logitech USB marble mouse on the PowerDR machine and can
make adjustment without  changing KVM focus.

I love Linux but I also use what works. If I needed a Mac to run PowerSDR
I'd buy one. Windows 7 64 works great and PowerSDR is fantastic. How Windows
8 will work we will obviously see but I am not jumping on the upgrade
bandwagon just because Windows 8 is going to exist.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Mike  wrote:

> You see, that's where I am at the moment!
>
> All the programs I want to use exist in Linux, so I have to have a
> dedicated PC running windoze
> just to be able to use my F3K and then have a second PC running Linux to be
> able to
> use my other programs!
>
> It's such a waste having a high spec PC just to run windoze XP for the
> flex3000 :-(
>
>
> On 17/09/11 18:00, 
> flexradio-request@flex-radio.**bizwrote:
>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:28:24 -0400
>> From: Drax Felton
>> To:"flexradio@flex-radio.biz"  
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
>> Message-ID:<74E23E11-741E-**4AC9-9057-476E5CB1C943@gmail.**com<74e23e11-741e-4ac9-9057-476e5cb1c...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
>>
>> I wouldn't be able to use all my other software at the same time.  I'd be
>> booted into the "flex os"
>>
>> There still are many pieces I like that only run on Windows.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Tony Estep]

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:37 PM, David McKenzie  wrote:

> Forget a headless server, the radio should have a built-in linux embedded
> system


So far this discussion has been in the realm of blue-sky impracticality, but
it's still interesting, and maybe it could produce some really cool design
ideas. But remember, the radio isn't the whole story: it has to talk to
logging software, programs that do digital modes, and possibly a rotator,
keyer, and more. At present this is done via VAC and VSP programs that Flex
doesn't write or support.

If you have a built-in OS, why use Linux? A built-in system means a built-in
CPU, so why not use one with a real-time OS? You could start with an
existing one, like those in game consoles, or write one, like those in
Elecraft, Yaesu and other radios. The game console choice seems more likely,
because instead of handling just admin tasks, this OS would have to support
a complete SDR program. The display program on the computer wouldn't need to
do any decoding, just show the picture and provide some control buttons.

No matter what the OS, all the output could be streamed over a single port.
Ethernet was suggested, although it would seem that USB 3.0 might be enough
to do the job. You'd need i/o to a pan display, mouse clicks, CAT, and
audio. You'd also need a connection for an outboard controller with a couple
of tuning wheels and a dozen or so buttons, like the Hercules. This
connection could be independent of the computer port.

Since this would require a complete hardware re-do, it would offer an
opportunity to add PIN diode t/r switching and make other tweaks that may be
needed.

Now, would this be worthwhile from a business point of view? Hard to say.
One might compare the hypothetical radio I'm describing with the proposed
Elecraft KX3, which has, in effect, an internal SDR and provides I-Q
outputs, CAT, etc. to the outside world. Instead of connecting knobs and
buttons via a port, they are on the radio itself. This has the disadvantage
that there's only one tuning knob even though there are A/B VFOs.

It's easy to float out ideas, hard to implement them. But it can't hurt to
dream

73 from dreamland,
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mike]

You see, that's where I am at the moment!

All the programs I want to use exist in Linux, so I have to have a 
dedicated PC running windoze
just to be able to use my F3K and then have a second PC running Linux to 
be able to

use my other programs!

It's such a waste having a high spec PC just to run windoze XP for the 
flex3000 :-(



On 17/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:28:24 -0400
From: Drax Felton
To:"flexradio@flex-radio.biz"  
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
Message-ID:<74e23e11-741e-4ac9-9057-476e5cb1c...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

I wouldn't be able to use all my other software at the same time.  I'd be booted into the 
"flex os"

There still are many pieces I like that only run on Windows.

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[David McKenzie]

Forget a headless server, the radio should have a built-in linux embedded
system and a gigabit ethernet port serving the radio out to PowerSDR and 3rd
party clients. No need for a second set of customer PC equipment.



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Alfred Green  wrote:

> On 9/16/2011 1:03 PM, Duane - N9DG wrote:
>
>>  It was thought about, and discussed over 4 years ago on this very email
>> list, even before the existence of the 5K was made public:
>>
>> --- On Fri, 9/16/11, Brian Lloyd  wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- What a great idea! I wonder why no one else has thought of it?
>>
>>  I expect Brian is well aware of that.
> Perhaps there was a holdover from the old A.F.U days of a Ban On Smileys.
>
> But, I'd be interested to hear if Deep Impact is still being worked on. Way
> beyond my implementation skills, but I certainly would be able to put it to
> use.
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Alfred Green]

On 9/16/2011 1:03 PM, Duane - N9DG wrote:
  
It was thought about, and discussed over 4 years ago on this very email list, even before the existence of the 5K was made public:
  


--- On Fri, 9/16/11, Brian Lloyd  wrote:


--- What a great idea! I wonder why no one else has thought of it?


I expect Brian is well aware of that.
Perhaps there was a holdover from the old A.F.U days of a Ban On Smileys.

But, I'd be interested to hear if Deep Impact is still being worked on. 
Way beyond my implementation skills, but I certainly would be able to 
put it to use.


73  Alf  NU8I

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Duane - N9DG]

 
It was thought about, and discussed over 4 years ago on this very email list, 
even before the existence of the 5K was made public:
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio@flex-radio.biz/msg13073.html
 
And also prior to the existence of this email list in the forums... Some the 
forum discussions go clear back to the 2004-2005 time-frame. Search them.
 
 While Linux back-ends weren't necessarily specifically talked about, the 
notion that the "headless" back-ends could be Linux I'm sure was rattling 
around inside the the heads of those who were involved with those discussions. 
And purpose built Linux distro's were also being discussed around those same 
times as well. So these ideas are not new..
 
Duane
N9DG
 
--- On Fri, 9/16/11, Brian Lloyd  wrote:

From: Brian Lloyd 
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
To: "Frank Brickle" 
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Date: Friday, September 16, 2011, 9:50 AM



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Frank Brickle  wrote:
> :-) Well, thanks.
>
> I suspect Ubuntu may no longer be the distro of choice. Fedora would
> be, these days, probably. I couldn't say for sure, having been working
> mostly on OS X for a few years now.
>
> Were some team to develop a Linux-based app for the Flex products,
> they'd likely be best off just putting together their *own* distro
> based on, say, Fedora. It could run off a live CD or USB stick just
> fine.
>
> The SDR app should be running headless on a separate dedicated host, anyway.

What a great idea! I wonder why no one else has thought of it?

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Frank Brickle]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Drax Felton  wrote:
> I wouldn't be able to use all my other software at the same time.  I'd be 
> booted into the "flex os"

No. You wouldn't be running anything else you need to know about on
the dedicated headless SDR server.

> There still are many pieces I like that only run on Windows.

So run them on Windows! As far as you're concerned, the dedicated
headless SDR server is an appliance, a black box sitting on your
network. The SDR guts all get fobbed off to the appliance. Everything
else on your current machine stays exactly the same.

Is there something about this that's hard to grasp?

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Drax Felton]

I wouldn't be able to use all my other software at the same time.  I'd be 
booted into the "flex os"

There still are many pieces I like that only run on Windows. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Brian Lloyd  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Frank Brickle  wrote:
>> :-) Well, thanks.
>> 
>> I suspect Ubuntu may no longer be the distro of choice. Fedora would
>> be, these days, probably. I couldn't say for sure, having been working
>> mostly on OS X for a few years now.
>> 
>> Were some team to develop a Linux-based app for the Flex products,
>> they'd likely be best off just putting together their *own* distro
>> based on, say, Fedora. It could run off a live CD or USB stick just
>> fine.
>> 
>> The SDR app should be running headless on a separate dedicated host, anyway.
> 
> What a great idea! I wonder why no one else has thought of it?
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mike]

It has been thought of ...
My Ubuntu Server here has a TI Firewire 400 card in it already, along 
with Quad core CPU and lots of RAM,
would be ideal for the "SDR app" or "server" then just use a "Front-End" 
or "Client" on another PC connected via Gigabit LAN ...

It's got to be the future of SDR surely?!

Mike.

On 16/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
Message: 14 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:50:41 -0700 From: Brian Lloyd 
 To: Frank Brickle  Cc: 
flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8 
Message-ID: 
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 
7:44 AM, Frank Brickle  wrote:

>  The SDR app should be running headless on a separate dedicated host, anyway.

What a great idea! I wonder why no one else has thought of it?

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Brian Lloyd]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Frank Brickle  wrote:
> :-) Well, thanks.
>
> I suspect Ubuntu may no longer be the distro of choice. Fedora would
> be, these days, probably. I couldn't say for sure, having been working
> mostly on OS X for a few years now.
>
> Were some team to develop a Linux-based app for the Flex products,
> they'd likely be best off just putting together their *own* distro
> based on, say, Fedora. It could run off a live CD or USB stick just
> fine.
>
> The SDR app should be running headless on a separate dedicated host, anyway.

What a great idea! I wonder why no one else has thought of it?

-- 
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3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Frank Brickle]

:-) Well, thanks.

I suspect Ubuntu may no longer be the distro of choice. Fedora would
be, these days, probably. I couldn't say for sure, having been working
mostly on OS X for a few years now.

Were some team to develop a Linux-based app for the Flex products,
they'd likely be best off just putting together their *own* distro
based on, say, Fedora. It could run off a live CD or USB stick just
fine.

The SDR app should be running headless on a separate dedicated host, anyway.

73
Frank
AB2KT

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Ross Stenberg
 wrote:
> The main reason I suggested Ubuntu is that Frank Brickle among others
> recommended it on this list five years ago. More than good enough reason for
> me.
>
>    73 Ross K9COX

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Domenico Bova]

I've installed yesterday evening the official MS Win 8 Preview for
developers. I will test in the week end the last release of PowerSDR 2.2.3
and I will check if everything is running fine.

At a first look (apart from Metro Start screen, so and so convincing me) it
seems a Win 7 clone. My .net programs don't show any issue for the moment.
Also Firewire is working fine in other apps.

 

I will come back .

 

Dome

IW2CLM

 

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Alan NV8A]

On 09/13/11 09:58 am, Mickey Baker wrote:


It would be a mistake to use current share of OS desktop usage as the sole
metric for  choice of platform for a high performance application.

Unless you were lucky, there were bumps in the road getting your FlexRadio
working on your existing Windows platform. Many of us purchased another PC -
or upgraded what we have in order to run PowerSDR over firewire
successfully. Odds are that the "existing platform" didn't handle PowerSDR
with two receivers, FireWire, and digital mode software well.

When I began the task of getting a new PC together and making it work, I
remembered why I got a Mac several years ago. The entire Microsoft
experience is a quagmire that requires a competent helpdesk to make it work.
I have NEVER had to call apple




Our son had to call Apple to get his new Mac Mini Server with Lion 
working right -- and he had re-download the OS to do it: without 
arm-twisting, it seems, Apple will no longer supply its OS on a DVD.


Apple Tech Support seems to be very good, judging by my visits with him 
to the local Genius Bar. But there is a high upfront premium to pay for 
that service when one compares the Apple hardware one is getting with 
equivalent Windows/Linux-compatible hardware.


Alan NV8A

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mickey Baker]

I have actually done exactly that, but with awesome resources and coworkers
in large organizations. I could not imagine doing the great things that you
do, even with the 3 active Microsoft OS's that you support. HRD/DM780 are
just about the coolest amateur radio applications on the planet and I'm
amazed and appreciate what you've built with a grass roots effort.

But supporting the various distro's gets a lot easier with the 2.6 kernel.
When everyone gets there... :-)

Thanks and 73,

Mickey

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Simon HB9DRV  wrote:

> But you didn't develop and support software for the many flavours of Linux.
>
> And you didn't start a company from scratch and carve out a nice market
> segment for yourself.
>
> I've done both in the Linux world - never again.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> http://sdr-radio.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mickey Baker
>
> Several years ago, I was a CIO of a county government. I replaced ALL the
> Windows public use desktop PCs with Ubuntu and Open Office, simply because
> we couldn't afford to spend $250 per PC on software
>
>


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Simon HB9DRV]

But you didn't develop and support software for the many flavours of Linux.

And you didn't start a company from scratch and carve out a nice market
segment for yourself.

I've done both in the Linux world - never again.

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Several years ago, I was a CIO of a county government. I replaced ALL the
Windows public use desktop PCs with Ubuntu and Open Office, simply because
we couldn't afford to spend $250 per PC on software


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mickey Baker]

Several years ago, I was a CIO of a county government. I replaced ALL the
Windows public use desktop PCs with Ubuntu and Open Office, simply because
we couldn't afford to spend $250 per PC on software. I was able to DOUBLE
the number of PCs available to the public in libraries by repurposing older
discarded PCs and using a new keyboard/mouse/monitor for about $120/per
seat.

There were few complaints - we no longer needed to worry about viruses, we
were able to eliminate hard drives and boot from the network in most cases,
essential providing a fresh operating system image to each new user in a few
minutes. Public utilization hours went UP by almost 100%, station downtime
was reduced by > 50%. The Open Office suite worked pretty much the same as
the older Microsoft Office suite it replaced.

Those who think there's a learning curve in Linux haven't looked at a
"windows user configured" PC running a recent Linux distribution. A casual
user would notice few changes. If you're a power user going into Control
Panel every few days, you, of course, are going to notice big changes.
...

Desktop OS in the enterprise as opposed to @Home...

What's happening in the marketplace generally, is what Citrix and Wyse
predicted 15 years ago with the "thin client" idea.

80% of all servers in enterprise computing is virtualized, with VMWare,
Microsoft Hyper-V or XenServer. This means that there is NOT a 1:1
correlation between hardware and operating system images in the server world
any more.

A similar phenomenon is happening with desktops. The Federal government is
going through massive procurements of Virtual Desktop Infrastructure, with
the intent of reducing overall costs. Most major corporations have proof of
concept or production pilots for VDI. VDI is the case where a desktop
computer boots most of the operating system over a network.

The intent is to provide all users with an identical destop, with the
ability to store variable data in a centralized repository. This enables a
very "thin" workstation to be used and eliminates problems with compliance
and disaster recovery over data that isn't captured today from the disk
drive on the end user workstation.

This is also changing the desktop OS choice - a small boot image becomes
important, as does the number of IO's that a computer does in the course of
operation.

The Linux varieties do quite well in this regard. I'm seeing large scale
deployment of Ubuntu, CentOS and RedHat images, as well as Microsoft
operating systems.

YMMV, but don't put too much stock in what the desktop numbers are today -
this is rapidly shifting and the *pedia sites lag a year or more.

There is no reason NOT to use Linux for your desktop PC. Apple was once a
small player in the PC marketplace - now they're the largest computer
company in the world.

And their products look a lot more like Linux than Windows. As has been said
before in this thread, they are based on UNIX.

Choose what works for you.

Mickey N4MB

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Richard Clafton wrote:

> True indeed.
>
> ** **
>
> But you need to consider your overall target user base level of competency
>  in computing too.  I have built and configured several Flex Ready PC’s
> for friends here in Houston, and these people are not competent in using a
> PC or Windows (none of them –otherwise I would not have to build and
> configure their PC’s), imagine me having to also get them through the
> hurdles of using Linux.  
>
> ** **
>
> Mac OS – now there is another story, I love my Macs – but I will never
> relegate them to being a Radio PC….. ;-)  That would be a waste!   ***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Joking aside, personally I would love to see something on all platforms –
> it would be nice to remove the OS dependency and have a choice. 
>
> ** **
>
> --
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>
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>
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>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Mickey Baker [mailto:fishflor...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM
> *To:* rclaf...@riroc.com
> *Cc:* flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
>
> ** **
>
> It would be a mistake to use current share of OS desktop usage as the sole
> metric for  choice of platform for a high performance application.
>
> ** **
>
> Unless you were lucky, there were bumps in the road getting your FlexRadio
> working on your existing Windows platform. Many of us purchased another PC -
> or upgraded what we have in order to run PowerSDR over firewire
> successfully. Odds are that the "existing platform" didn't handle Power

Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Richard Clafton]

True indeed.

 

But you need to consider your overall target user base level of competency  in 
computing too.
I have built and configured several Flex Ready PC's for friends here in 
Houston, and these people
are not competent in using a PC or Windows (none of them -otherwise I would not 
have to build and
configure their PC's), imagine me having to also get them through the hurdles 
of using Linux.  

 

Mac OS - now there is another story, I love my Macs - but I will never relegate 
them to being a
Radio PC... ;-)  That would be a waste!   

 

Joking aside, personally I would love to see something on all platforms - it 
would be nice to
remove the OS dependency and have a choice. 

 

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RIROC - Hosting -  Development - Technology

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From: Mickey Baker [mailto:fishflor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:59 AM
To: rclaf...@riroc.com
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

 

It would be a mistake to use current share of OS desktop usage as the sole 
metric for  choice of
platform for a high performance application.

 

Unless you were lucky, there were bumps in the road getting your FlexRadio 
working on your existing
Windows platform. Many of us purchased another PC - or upgraded what we have in 
order to run
PowerSDR over firewire successfully. Odds are that the "existing platform" 
didn't handle PowerSDR
with two receivers, FireWire, and digital mode software well. 

 

When I began the task of getting a new PC together and making it work, I 
remembered why I got a Mac
several years ago. The entire Microsoft experience is a quagmire that requires 
a competent helpdesk
to make it work. I have NEVER had to call apple

 

I know nothing about the financial situation with Flex - the following is 
generalized speculation
after being involved with a number of technology startups as an engineer, 
executive and consultant.

 

The metric to use for a startup company's choice of direction is simply the 
ability to produce a
product. For example, if you have a staff and contributors with a combined 
total of 20 years
experience developing on a Windows environment and none on UNIX/Linux/MacOS, 
you don't task them
with producing Linux-based software - or you will have made the choice to go 
out of business,
unless you have infusion of capital and a waiting market for the resulting 
product.

 

Inversely, you don't ask open source developers to work on .NET projects unless 
they have that
specific skill.

 

To FlexRadio, I'll bet  that ship has sailed. The choice for PowerSDR has been 
made, unless the
amateur radio market is a lot more lucrative than I think it is, parallel code 
development for
another OS would be a very difficult choice that would require funding - which 
required payback at
some point in time and competes with funding for support and development for 
the current product!

 

PowerSDR-like software for Linux will come if and when the transceiver hardware 
and firmware is
well documented to the outside world and someone is willing to take the time 
and risk the dollars
for development. Flex could subjugate their risk by licensing source code and 
design details to a
competent group with the understanding that everyone shares in profits in the 
resulting product.

 

There are other SDRs out there, most of us know that. But there's nothing in 
the world that works
as well for amateur radio as a FlexRadio and PowerSDR. 

 

FlexRadio has a nice product, it works on the current Windows 7 platform well, 
but I would like to
see a MacOS version.

 

But, if if ain't broke...

 

73,

 

Mickey N4MB

 

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Richard Clafton  wrote:

This will probably explain better why there is not much advantage in 
concentrating time on
expensive development for a minority operating system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems

2.38% share in the OS market for Linux.

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ross
Stenberg
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:47 PM

To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz

Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8


If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.

On 9/12/2011 5:55 PM, Dave Walker wrote:
> Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
>
>


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Tony Estep]

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM

>
> In the 1990s, 90% of desktop users in the financial industry used some
flavor of Unix: Sun, IBM, HP and NeXT dominated that business. When NT 3.1
came along, it was buggy and limited in power, but it swept the market,
pushing Unix aside on every trading desk, in every research department and
throughout the back offices.  Soon all the desktops were Windows, while Unix
continued to dominate in the server closet. This is still more or less the
situation today.

Solaris and HP-UX were made available for PCs, but found no takers.
NeXT-Step lives on as Mac OS. Server farms went from commercial flavors of
Unix to one or another distro of Linux.

Literally billions of critical business, scientific and engineering
application programs are running successfully under all the available
operating systems. The marketplace has had more than 20 years to sort this
out, and thousands of contributors with maximum computer-science chops have
devoted major chunks of their careers to this quest. To say that we need to
scratch them all and start over, without even being able to define what
would be the proposed improvement, reveals a lack of understanding both of
the economics and the technology of modern computing.


73, Tony KT0NY



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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mickey Baker]

It would be a mistake to use current share of OS desktop usage as the sole
metric for  choice of platform for a high performance application.

Unless you were lucky, there were bumps in the road getting your FlexRadio
working on your existing Windows platform. Many of us purchased another PC -
or upgraded what we have in order to run PowerSDR over firewire
successfully. Odds are that the "existing platform" didn't handle PowerSDR
with two receivers, FireWire, and digital mode software well.

When I began the task of getting a new PC together and making it work, I
remembered why I got a Mac several years ago. The entire Microsoft
experience is a quagmire that requires a competent helpdesk to make it work.
I have NEVER had to call apple

I know nothing about the financial situation with Flex - the following is
generalized speculation after being involved with a number of technology
startups as an engineer, executive and consultant.

The metric to use for a startup company's choice of direction is simply the
ability to produce a product. For example, if you have a staff and
contributors with a combined total of 20 years experience developing on a
Windows environment and none on UNIX/Linux/MacOS, you don't task them with
producing Linux-based software - or you will have made the choice to go out
of business, unless you have infusion of capital and a waiting market for
the resulting product.

Inversely, you don't ask open source developers to work on .NET projects
unless they have that specific skill.

To FlexRadio, I'll bet  that ship has sailed. The choice for PowerSDR has
been made, unless the amateur radio market is a lot more lucrative than I
think it is, parallel code development for another OS would be a very
difficult choice that would require funding - which required payback at some
point in time and competes with funding for support and development for the
current product!

PowerSDR-like software for Linux will come if and when the transceiver
hardware and firmware is well documented to the outside world and someone is
willing to take the time and risk the dollars for development. Flex could
subjugate their risk by licensing source code and design details to a
competent group with the understanding that everyone shares in profits in
the resulting product.

There are other SDRs out there, most of us know that. But there's nothing in
the world that works as well for amateur radio as a FlexRadio and PowerSDR.

FlexRadio has a nice product, it works on the current Windows 7 platform
well, but I would like to see a MacOS version.

But, if if ain't broke...

73,

Mickey N4MB

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Richard Clafton  wrote:

> This will probably explain better why there is not much advantage in
> concentrating time on
> expensive development for a minority operating system.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems
>
> 2.38% share in the OS market for Linux.
>
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> flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ross
> Stenberg
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:47 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
>
> If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.
>
> On 9/12/2011 5:55 PM, Dave Walker wrote:
> > Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
> >
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Ross Stenberg]

The main reason I suggested Ubuntu is that Frank Brickle among others 
recommended it on this list five years ago. More than good enough reason 
for me.


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Alan NV8A]

I haven't seen anybody suggesting freeBSD, another UNIX derivative. The 
very little I've played with it -- as the OS underlying FreeNAS -- it 
seems to accept all the UNIX/Linux commands I've thrown at it.


And MacOS is, in some respects at least, BSD with a pretty interface 
(but I don't know how much FreeBSD differs from "standard" BSD). So I 
wonder how difficult it would be to come up with a native MacOS version 
of PowerSDR.


Alan NV8A


On 09/13/11 04:43 am, Mike wrote:

I'm not sure they have to align themselves with any distro, that's the
great thing about Linux!

Since a huge proportion of PSDR is actually developed on Linux and then
ported to windows
it's not as big a job to produce a Linux version as most would think.

The problem currently is getting the firewire hardware vendor to produce
the necessary code for the Linux
platform as I believe currently they only have a windows version.

A real time kernel on a Linux platform would be so much better than what
we currently have on windows.

Best 73.

Mike.

On 12/09/11 23:55, Dave Walker wrote:

Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?



- Reply message -
From: "Mike" 
Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58 am
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
To: 

I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved on
to Linux
as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Ross Stenberg]

Best of luck to you. Your contributions to ham radio can truly be 
defined as enormous. Thank you.


On 9/13/2011 7:22 AM, Simon HB9DRV wrote:

Hah - in the SDR business :)

To be honest I needed to get into the leading edge and there's only 24 hours
a day.

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Ross Stenberg]

Best of luck to you. Your contributions to ham radio can truley be 
defined as enormous. Thank you.


On 9/13/2011 7:22 AM, Simon HB9DRV wrote:

Hah - in the SDR business :)

To be honest I needed to get into the leading edge and there's only 24 hours
a day.

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Simon HB9DRV]

Hah - in the SDR business :)

To be honest I needed to get into the leading edge and there's only 24 hours
a day.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
http://sdr-radio.com


-Original Message-
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Simon, are you out of "business" now or should I say perhaps in business?


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Ross Stenberg]

Simon, are you out of "business" now or should I say perhaps in business?

On 9/13/2011 5:50 AM, Simon HB9DRV wrote:

So you want Flex to go out of business :)

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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Simon HB9DRV]

So you want Flex to go out of business :)

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
http://sdr-radio.com


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike

I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved on 
to Linux
as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mike]

The current version of PSDR should run on windows 8, so there is no 
reason for it to be dropped,
but there are a lot of people moving away from windows especially in the 
EU, windows PC sales
are down massively, Apple sales are up massively, Linux usage is on the 
increase.


I prefer to look to the future not the past.

Mike.

On 13/09/11 05:42, Edwin Marzan wrote:
It will probably be nice for PowerSDR to be platform independent but 
to suggest that they drop Windows which is in use by over 90% of 
personal computer usesrs and switch to Linux is really a foolish 
suggestion.


Losing 90% of your user base would be great for business. Not!!!

Edwin Marzan AB2VW

> To: mi...@m0aws.co.uk; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> From: vk...@bigpond.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:55:55 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
>
> Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Mike" 
> Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58 am
> Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
> To: 
>
> I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved 
on to Linux

> as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!
>
> On 12/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:41:40 -0400
> > From: "Bill Roberts"
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mike]

I'm not sure they have to align themselves with any distro, that's the 
great thing about Linux!


Since a huge proportion of PSDR is actually developed on Linux and then 
ported to windows

it's not as big a job to produce a Linux version as most would think.

The problem currently is getting the firewire hardware vendor to produce 
the necessary code for the Linux

platform as I believe currently they only have a windows version.

A real time kernel on a Linux platform would be so much better than what 
we currently have on windows.


Best 73.

Mike.

On 12/09/11 23:55, Dave Walker wrote:

Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?



- Reply message -
From: "Mike" 
Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58 am
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
To: 

I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved on 
to Linux

as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!

On 12/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:41:40 -0400
> From: "Bill Roberts"
> To:
> Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
> Message-ID:
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Edwin Marzan]

It will probably be nice for PowerSDR to be platform independent but to suggest 
that they drop Windows which is in use by over 90% of personal computer usesrs 
and switch to Linux is really a foolish suggestion. 
 
Losing 90% of your user base would be great for business. Not!!!

Edwin Marzan AB2VW
 

> To: mi...@m0aws.co.uk; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> From: vk...@bigpond.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:55:55 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8
> 
> Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with? 
> 
> 
> 
> - Reply message -
> From: "Mike" 
> Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58 am
> Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
> To: 
> 
> I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved on to 
> Linux
> as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!
> 
> On 12/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:
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> > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:41:40 -0400
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Steven Hess]

Ubuntu is forking away from the established Linux development system. It's
not a good choice. It's a fine distro for total neophytes but it's not a
decent distro at all.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Dave Walker  wrote:

> Yes ubuntu has settles the development anarchy of Linux, but I am not
> convinced of its superiority over any other OS for eeL time audio
> processing.
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Ross Stenberg" 
> Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 9:47 am
> Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
> To: 
>
> If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.
>
> On 9/12/2011 5:55 PM, Dave Walker wrote:
> > Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Dave Walker]

Yes ubuntu has settles the development anarchy of Linux, but I am not convinced 
of its superiority over any other OS for eeL time audio processing.



- Reply message -
From: "Ross Stenberg" 
Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 9:47 am
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
To: 

If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.

On 9/12/2011 5:55 PM, Dave Walker wrote:
> Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Steven Hess]

Not really.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Ross Stenberg wrote:

> If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.
>
> On 9/12/2011 5:55 PM, Dave Walker wrote:
>
>> Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
>>
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Richard Clafton]

This will probably explain better why there is not much advantage in 
concentrating time on
expensive development for a minority operating system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems

2.38% share in the OS market for Linux.

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Stenberg
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 6:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.

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> Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Ross Stenberg]

If you want to stay with the masses, there is only one choice...Ubuntu.

On 9/12/2011 5:55 PM, Dave Walker wrote:

Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with?





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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Dave Walker]

Which distro do you suggest flex align themselves with? 



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Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 4:58 am
Subject: [Flexradio] Windows 8
To: 

I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved on to Linux
as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!

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> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:41:40 -0400
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Mike]

I hope that by the time windoze 8 is released Flex would have moved on 
to Linux

as I am tired of wasting my high spec PC on a joke O/S!

On 12/09/11 18:00, flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz wrote:

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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:41:40 -0400
From: "Bill Roberts"
To:
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Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

VA3QR's recent post mentioning Windows 2008 R2 Server kinda sparked my
interest in the next greatest thing coming from Microsoft,


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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Neal Campbell]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Bill Roberts  wrote:

> VA3QR's recent post mentioning Windows 2008 R2 Server kinda sparked my
> interest in the next greatest thing coming from Microsoft, namely Windows
> 8.
> According to Kim Komando (weekend talk show about "everything digital")
> says
> the new OS is due out in early 2012.  Presently I intend to replace my
> existing dual core XP machine with an i7 based PC sometime around Black
> Friday.  My questions are:
>
> 1.  What do we know about Windows 8?
>
> 2.  From a FlexRadio perspective, is it worth waiting around for.
>
>
>
> Yes, I am aware that new operating systems usually miss their scheduled
> release date and that pioneers usually take the most arrows in the butt.
> I'm just wondering what our collective wisdom on Windows 8 is.
>
>
>
> Thanks and best 73.
>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Windows 8

[Greg]

The digital godess rocks!
On Sep 11, 2011 2:42 PM, "Bill Roberts"  wrote:
> VA3QR's recent post mentioning Windows 2008 R2 Server kinda sparked my
> interest in the next greatest thing coming from Microsoft, namely Windows
8.
> According to Kim Komando (weekend talk show about "everything digital")
says
> the new OS is due out in early 2012. Presently I intend to replace my
> existing dual core XP machine with an i7 based PC sometime around Black
> Friday. My questions are:
>
> 1. What do we know about Windows 8?
>
> 2. From a FlexRadio perspective, is it worth waiting around for.
>
>
>
> Yes, I am aware that new operating systems usually miss their scheduled
> release date and that pioneers usually take the most arrows in the butt.
> I'm just wondering what our collective wisdom on Windows 8 is.
>
>
>
> Thanks and best 73.
>
>
>
> Bill Roberts
>
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>
>
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