[Flightgear-devel] getting DME signal
> For the DME radio we have currently in FlightGear (which is not based > on any particular real-world model), do this: ... Thanks Dave, I don't have control heads installed yet, so I'm setting up the nav aids via command line and the property browser. So, given this in the command line: --prop:/radios/nav/frequencies/selected-mhz[0]=111.7 --prop:/radios/nav/radials/selected-deg[0]=282.0 --prop:/radios/dme/switch-position=1 I think I should be getting a DME signal, although the in-range property is always false and I'm not getting any distance. I've also tried to get DME from the SFO VOR, with no luck. BTW, the localizer and GS signals from the 28R ILS work fine. Here's a snapshot of the T-38 flying an ILS to 28R with one mile visibility: http://home.attbi.com/~davidculp2/t38/t38-ils-sfo.jpg Dave Culp ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
On Thursday 27 February 2003 4:23 pm, Gene Buckle wrote: > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.02.27 15:02]: > > > John Check writes: > > > > > Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ > > > > > meant to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to > > > > > driver their toilet flusher, go ahead! > > > > > > > > H > > > > > > Honestly, I hesitated before I sent this out, but in the end, I just > > > couldn't stop myself. > > > > > > I always liked flightgear because it combined my two favorite > > > activities ... computers and aviation ... now the thought of combining > > > this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to > > > finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under > > > pressure??? Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I > > > should have just left it at "Hm." > > > > I was going to make a joke about FG not supporting the dropping of > > bombs, but... ;-p > > Puts a whole new twist on "bunker buster", doesn't it? *gd&rvff* > IS that chem or bio warfare? What if I ate GM corn? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.02.27 15:02]: > > John Check writes: > > > > Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant > > > > to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their > > > > toilet flusher, go ahead! > > > > > > > > > > H > > > > Honestly, I hesitated before I sent this out, but in the end, I just > > couldn't stop myself. > > > > I always liked flightgear because it combined my two favorite > > activities ... computers and aviation ... now the thought of combining > > this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to > > finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under > > pressure??? Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I > > should have just left it at "Hm." > > I was going to make a joke about FG not supporting the dropping of > bombs, but... ;-p Puts a whole new twist on "bunker buster", doesn't it? *gd&rvff* g. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military
> A story[1] on Slashdot today, linked to this presentation titled > "Open Source Software in Simulation and Training": > > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/ > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/ossist.pdf Interesting: Object- oriented simulation models exist - NASA Langley Research Center Standard Real- Time Simulation in C++ (LaSRS++) - Studies show up to 98% component reuse between simulators using LaSRS++ - Open Source versions of LaSRS++ frameworks include JSBSim which is the flight model for 'FlightGear' JSBSim included with LaSRS++ ?? I've got a note in to Bruce Jackson to ask him if he is aware of the truthfulness of this. Jon JON S. BERNDT Coordinator, JSBSim Project www.JSBSim.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[Flightgear-devel] ASTER Users Workshop
FYI http://asterweb.jpl.nasa.gov/workshop/default.htm ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
On Thursday 27 February 2003 3:52 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > John Check writes: > > > Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant > > > to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their > > > toilet flusher, go ahead! > > > > H > > Honestly, I hesitated before I sent this out, but in the end, I just > couldn't stop myself. > > I always liked flightgear because it combined my two favorite > activities ... computers and aviation ... now the thought of combining > this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to > finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under > pressure??? Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I > should have just left it at "Hm." > > Curt. HAHAHAH nice. Now we know yer favorite sound: Bawsh ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/misc sg_path.cxx,1.2,1.3sg_path.hxx,1.2,1.3
Ok, sounds like a good idea. Curt. Bernie Bright writes: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:50:17 -0600 > "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/misc > > In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv25218/simgear/misc > > > > Modified Files: > > sg_path.cxx sg_path.hxx > > Log Message: > > Add some convenience functions to the SGPath function. > > Could the file(), dir(), base() and extension() functions be made const member > functions. As it stands they cannot be applied to const reference/pointer > values which limits their usefulness. > > Many thanks, > Bernie > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
re: [Flightgear-devel] getting DME signal
David Culp writes: > Can someone tell me how to get a DME signal from the KSFO ILS/DME > RWY 28R (freq 111.7)? Or from any DME transmitter for that matter. > I've never flown an airplane that required or allowed for tuning of > DME. For the DME radio we have currently in FlightGear (which is not based on any particular real-world model), do this: 1. Tune one of the nav radios to 111.7 (it's already in the standby frequency for nav1 by default, so just swap). 2. Change the switch on the DME radio "N1" or "N2" (depending on which radio you used. 3. Once the distance is displaying, change the switch on the DME radio to "HLD" -- now the DME will stay tuned to 111.7, even if you change the nav radio. In real life, it is usually possible to tune a DME radio directly. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 12:52, Curtis L. Olson wrote: > John Check writes: > > > Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant > > > to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their > > > toilet flusher, go ahead! > > > > > > > H > > Honestly, I hesitated before I sent this out, but in the end, I just > couldn't stop myself. > > I always liked flightgear because it combined my two favorite > activities ... computers and aviation ... now the thought of combining > this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to > finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under > pressure??? > Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I > should have just left it at "Hm." Indeed. Bad visuals. > > Curt. -- Tony Peden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Simgear-cvslogs] CVS: SimGear/simgear/misc sg_path.cxx,1.2,1.3sg_path.hxx,1.2,1.3
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:50:17 -0600 "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/SimGear/simgear/misc > In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv25218/simgear/misc > > Modified Files: > sg_path.cxx sg_path.hxx > Log Message: > Add some convenience functions to the SGPath function. Could the file(), dir(), base() and extension() functions be made const member functions. As it stands they cannot be applied to const reference/pointer values which limits their usefulness. Many thanks, Bernie ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] getting DME signal
Can someone tell me how to get a DME signal from the KSFO ILS/DME RWY 28R (freq 111.7)? Or from any DME transmitter for that matter. I've never flown an airplane that required or allowed for tuning of DME. Do I have to set /radios/dme/frequencies/selected-khz[0] to something? Thanks, Dave Culp ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] autopilot system
Mehmet Velicangil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > can it be calculated. In one of the documents in the flight gear site I found that the rollout point which resembles an angle is approximately same with the maxroll which is taken 20 for Chessna and the rollout smooth point is approximately half of its maxroll angle. Are these ratios true for other aircraft or they are values found by certain handy equations that are dependant to the coefficients of the aircraft which is the main thing that I am wondering and want to learn about because I am trying to experiment with different aircraft by changing the values in the config files and try to make a realistic stuff while having fun and learning about aviation. > The max roll values for the aircraft that I did were not derived by any scientific method. In some cases max roll was estimated from information available on the web (instructive or flight manual type data), estimated from web photos of aircraft in a bank, or just a wild guess. As far as rollout is concerned my main concern, where it varies, was simply to ensure that the aircraft did not overshoot the target in NAV mode. There isn't any rule AFAIK that it has to be equal to the roll, but you are welcome to experiment and submit any improvements or corrections. The aircraft that I have worked with as far as autopilot config is concerned are the 747, c310 and A4. Basically, the autopilot still requires more work. A little over a year ago autopilot was fixed to c172 requirements and not configurable. The configurability I added was mostly just a stopgap to get the it to operate without stalling and crashing the new higher performance aircraft. At this point I wouldn't read too much into what you see as far as those configurations are concerned :-) Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] autopilot system
My question is about the variables that are used in the autopilot system. As far as I can understand the target heading is calculated by the angle between the aircraft and the waypoint with the proper heading and the rate of change of angle times the distance between the coordinates which are summed together. The aircraft is supposed to possess max roll until it reaches the rollout point where linearisation occurs to find target roll and aileron commands. However I didn't understand how max roll is calculated. Is it the roll angle that aircraft stands stable without stall (ie. the angle for minimum turn radius) or a value chosen for the aircraft. The second one sounds more logical to me because when the lateral distance is large to reach a navigation point we can't turn with the roll value for minimum turn radius if we don't want to make circles while reaching our point so how can it be calculated. In one of the documents in the flight gear site I found that the rollout point which resembles an angle is approximately same with the maxroll which is taken 20 for Chessna and the rollout smooth point is approximately half of its maxroll angle. Are these ratios true for other aircraft or they are values found by certain handy equations that are dependant to the coefficients of the aircraft which is the main thing that I am wondering and want to learn about because I am trying to experiment with different aircraft by changing the values in the config files and try to make a realistic stuff while having fun and learning about aviation.
RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military
Currently we are running this stuff under Windows, but I am making a push to port to Linux. Unfortunately, our flight sim is not available to the public. But the changes I made to FlightGear can be incorporated if there is interest. I am currently using Windows API calls for the shared memory, so I could wrap the calls with conditionals. Again, I am populating aircraft position and attitude through shared memory from our simulation, so far so good. Michael Miller -Original Message- From: Erik Hofman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military Miller, M B wrote: > I am a new user to FlightGear. I have made minor modifications to use our > flight simulation to drive the FlightGear models through shared memory. > This proof of concept system will be demonstrated to the Air Force Special > Operations Command. It would be nice to get these changes into FlightGear some day. Is that possible? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
Cameron Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I was going to make a joke about FG not supporting the dropping of > bombs, but... ;-p > Vapor trails not implemented yet either. Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:06:19 -0600 Cameron Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was going to make a joke about FG not supporting the dropping of bombs, but... ;-p -- Cameron Moore That won't necessarily always be true. Now that we have an F-16 (etc.) that can carry them, and it sort-of works (I still haven't tried it - I haven't had time to fly anything for a while!) I can test the multi-vehicle capability of JSBSim better. It's not complete and still in-work. I think my wife is planning on taking the kids to the grandparents for a couple of weeks in the near future. I ought to be able to finish some remodeling AND do some programming stuff in that period. :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2003.02.27 15:02]: > John Check writes: > > > Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant > > > to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their > > > toilet flusher, go ahead! > > > > > > > H > > Honestly, I hesitated before I sent this out, but in the end, I just > couldn't stop myself. > > I always liked flightgear because it combined my two favorite > activities ... computers and aviation ... now the thought of combining > this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to > finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under > pressure??? Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I > should have just left it at "Hm." I was going to make a joke about FG not supporting the dropping of bombs, but... ;-p -- Cameron Moore [ Some things are true even though Microsoft says they are. ] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
John Check writes: > > Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant > > to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their > > toilet flusher, go ahead! > > > > H Honestly, I hesitated before I sent this out, but in the end, I just couldn't stop myself. I always liked flightgear because it combined my two favorite activities ... computers and aviation ... now the thought of combining this with a 3rd favorite activity ... this could be just the answer to finding more time to work on FlightGear. I do my best thinking under pressure??? Ok that's enough, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry ... I should have just left it at "Hm." Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
> Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant > to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their > toilet flusher, go ahead! > H ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> P.S.: Seen this one ? http://www.geocities.com/drgportugal/dgtv/ [...] > But it's GPL'd any you might be able to sneak some code, Sorry, obviously it is not. I don't know why I mixed things up, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Creating a new buffer
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Off the top of my head, this looks a lot like the buffer > that is created/extended when loading scenery tiles. If you are > running the threaded tile pager, it's output could get interleaved > with the output of the main thread. O.k., I thought it might probably be OpenGL related - a vague hope. When I try the B747, the message on the electrical system (wether it exists or not) is the last response I get offered by FlightGear. This is the moment when the X server freezes with current DRI CVS Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Creating a new buffer
Martin Spott writes : > > Hello, could anyone tell me what's usually going on here when FlightGear > starts up ? It's writing out these lines: > > No electrical model specified for this model! > Creating a new buffer of size = 32768 > Creating a new buffer of size = 32768 > resizing buffer to size = 131072 > > > Which buffer is meant with 'Creating a new buffer', There is still a cout statement in the SGBinObj::read_bin function. This buffer is used to load sceneries. There is the same message in fgsd when importing sceneries. Cheers, -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Creating a new buffer
Martin Spott writes: > Hello, could anyone tell me what's usually going on here when FlightGear > starts up ? It's writing out these lines: > > No electrical model specified for this model! What aircraft are you trying to load? Perhaps it doesn't define an electrical model. > Creating a new buffer of size = 32768 > Creating a new buffer of size = 32768 > resizing buffer to size = 131072 > > Which buffer is meant with 'Creating a new buffer', Off the top of my head, this looks a lot like the buffer that is created/extended when loading scenery tiles. If you are running the threaded tile pager, it's output could get interleaved with the output of the main thread. Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Creating a new buffer
Hello, could anyone tell me what's usually going on here when FlightGear starts up ? It's writing out these lines: No electrical model specified for this model! Creating a new buffer of size = 32768 Creating a new buffer of size = 32768 resizing buffer to size = 131072 Which buffer is meant with 'Creating a new buffer', Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] But I > also have some code changes queued up in my head that I'd also like to > get done before my next major world build so I won't suggest a time > line. I personally would prefer "well done" over a quick hack ;-) >> P.S.: Seen this one ? http://www.geocities.com/drgportugal/dgtv/ > I hadn't seen this site, but it looks like an interesting tool. It > doesn't appear that they have found any additional free terrain data > though. :-( But it's GPL'd any you might be able to sneak some code, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yesterday I made some progress with a "Prep" tool for the SRTM "hgt" > > format. Martin Spott writes: > Do you mean SRTM data in general or this special 'hgt' format ? Yes, SRTM data as provided in the "hgt" format (data and format description) available from: ftp://edcsgs9.cr.usgs.gov/pub/data/srtm/GDPS/ I have begun some of the data preparations. The preprocessing of the 3arcsec data took about 4 hours, so I'm anticipating that the preprocessing of the 1arcsec data will take about 36 hours. But I also have some code changes queued up in my head that I'd also like to get done before my next major world build so I won't suggest a time line. I'm finding myself *very* short on HD space so I may need to go out and purchase some additional resources to do this. > Martin. > P.S.: Seen this one ? http://www.geocities.com/drgportugal/dgtv/ I hadn't seen this site, but it looks like an interesting tool. It doesn't appear that they have found any additional free terrain data though. :-( Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
"Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yesterday I made some progress with a "Prep" tool for the SRTM "hgt" > format. [...] > As far as I know, this data has only been made available for the USA > (so far.) Do you mean SRTM data in general or this special 'hgt' format ? Martin. P.S.: Seen this one ? http://www.geocities.com/drgportugal/dgtv/ -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
Jim Wilson wrote: Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Great, now I feel recruited by the US military ... :-D Well, not exactly! Keep in mind that the same code is available to everyone else including the North Koreans, provided of course they are "allowed" to keep their power plant running long enough to make an internet connection. Keep in mind the ways that OSS, at least potentially, operates as a social equalizer. That counts for individuals, businesses, and governments. Yes, I know. Actually I con't care about this too much (it _was_ meant to be a joke), so if someone want's to use FlightGear to driver their toilet flusher, go ahead! Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military
Miller, M B wrote: I am a new user to FlightGear. I have made minor modifications to use our flight simulation to drive the FlightGear models through shared memory. This proof of concept system will be demonstrated to the Air Force Special Operations Command. It would be nice to get these changes into FlightGear some day. Is that possible? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military
I am a new user to FlightGear. I have made minor modifications to use our flight simulation to drive the FlightGear models through shared memory. This proof of concept system will be demonstrated to the Air Force Special Operations Command. Michael Miller -Original Message- From: Erik Hofman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military Cameron Moore wrote: > A story[1] on Slashdot today, linked to this presentation titled "Open > Source Software in Simulation and Training": > > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/ > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/ossist.pdf > > Go through it to get the context, but the slides that mention FG-related > items are: > > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/img22.html > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/img26.html > http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/img28.html > > Of particular interest is slide #28 (err.. img28.html). It reads: > > "FlightGear has already been utilized as an image generator for the US >Military" Great, now I feel recruited by the US military ... :-D Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] FlightGear and the US Military
Erik Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Cameron Moore wrote: > > > > "FlightGear has already been utilized as an image generator for the US > >Military" > > Great, now I feel recruited by the US military ... > :-D > Well, not exactly! Keep in mind that the same code is available to everyone else including the North Koreans, provided of course they are "allowed" to keep their power plant running long enough to make an internet connection. Keep in mind the ways that OSS, at least potentially, operates as a social equalizer. That counts for individuals, businesses, and governments. Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
Ok Curtis and what about over 249 things in your list ;-))) Thanx in advance Roman - Original Message - From: "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D > Roman Grigoriev writes: > > Thanx Curtis, > > I have older version of flightgear so I try to recompile it > > Could you please name 250 things in your priority list :))) > > for example, What about HGT format? > > Yesterday I made some progress with a "Prep" tool for the SRTM "hgt" > format. > > I probably need to build some actual scenery with it before I'm > satisfied that I didn't get anything flipped around or reversed in the > data order. > > As far as I know, this data has only been made available for the USA > (so far.) > > Regards, > > Curt. > -- > Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project > Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel > ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
Roman Grigoriev writes: > Thanx Curtis, > I have older version of flightgear so I try to recompile it > Could you please name 250 things in your priority list :))) > for example, What about HGT format? Yesterday I made some progress with a "Prep" tool for the SRTM "hgt" format. I probably need to build some actual scenery with it before I'm satisfied that I didn't get anything flipped around or reversed in the data order. As far as I know, this data has only been made available for the USA (so far.) Regards, Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear and the US Military
Cameron Moore wrote: A story[1] on Slashdot today, linked to this presentation titled "Open Source Software in Simulation and Training": http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/ http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/ossist.pdf Go through it to get the context, but the slides that mention FG-related items are: http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/img22.html http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/img26.html http://linuxworld.idealcorp.com/presentation/img28.html Of particular interest is slide #28 (err.. img28.html). It reads: "FlightGear has already been utilized as an image generator for the US Military" Great, now I feel recruited by the US military ... :-D Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D
Thanx Curtis, I have older version of flightgear so I try to recompile it Could you please name 250 things in your priority list :))) for example, What about HGT format? Thanx in advance Bye - Original Message - From: "Curtis L. Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds 3D > Roman Grigoriev writes: > > Curtis, > > Could you please test clouds3d on CVS flightgear > > I've searched all strings in flightgear and they are defined by > > FG_USE_CLOUDS3D so I define this macro and all compiled fine > > so clouds3d loaded and rendered but here is a problem: > > I've got white flickering when 3dcloud in view frustrum > > I read about this problem in list at semtember-october 2002 but can't > > remember solution how to solve this > > maybe its because 3dpanels with transparency > > There are a lot of issues with the 3d clouds. Essentially they use > their own home grown scene graph which doesn't really play nice with > plib. We spent a lot of time trying to hack around this and spent a > lot of time answering a myriad of end user questions from people who > were having a wide variety of problems with the code. > > In the end, I ran out of time to spend on this, and no one else was > able to dig in and work on the issues, so I disabled the 3d clouds by > default. > > At some point when I have some "spare" time, I'd like to return to the > 3d cloud issue, figure them all out, and port them to plib. I think > ultimately, that is the only way we will get them to work well in > FlightGear. > > But, for now I have about 250 things higher on my priority list. :-( > > Curt. > -- > Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project > Twin Cities[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org > > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel > ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
